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nigelbJFo: +1 for the rubber mellet ;)03:17
JFonigelb, :)04:23
nigelbJFo: Shall we start the public campaign - raise money for pete to but a rubber mallet.  Its to help a poor soul who doesnt stop working despite pain ;)04:24
JFoheh, I think we should04:24
nigelbabudoctormo: around?05:30
jussio/06:28
aragood morning all!07:24
jussimorning ara07:27
aramorning jussi07:28
nigelbabumorning ara :)07:28
aramorning nigelbabu07:29
arajussi, I couldn't contact daviey in the end, do you have his email address?07:29
jussiara: actually I dont, but Im sure AlanBell does...07:30
AlanBellara: 20:51 < Daviey> AlanBell: okay, i'll add it after the meeting07:51
AlanBellpresume he didn't as you are asking again, but he does know about the request07:51
AlanBellhe had to leave before the end of the meeting07:51
araAlanBell, OK, thanks07:52
AlanBellhttps://launchpad.net/~davewalker email address07:55
araAlanBell, thanks again07:56
dpmmorning everyone08:06
nigelbabumorning dpm, dholbach :)08:07
dholbachgood morning08:08
dholbachhey nigelbabu, hey dpm08:08
dholbachnigelbabu: the script finished last night08:08
dholbachnigelbabu: we're good to go08:09
nigelbabudholbach: yay, so I'll just write out the workflow and I guess we can launch some time today :)08:09
dholbachnigelbabu: awesome08:09
dholbachnigelbabu: how's India today?08:09
dholbachdpm: how's Spain today?08:09
nigelbabudholbach: warm, but cloudy.  I'm close to pulling out my hair though08:09
dholbachnigelbabu: why's that?08:10
nigelbabudholbach: trying to get google maps to play nice and failing08:10
dholbachah ok08:11
dpmdholbach, it's cooled down a bit, bit08:16
dpmbut still warm08:16
dpmhey nigelbabu08:17
nigelbabuhola dpm :)08:17
dholbachdpm: summer is starting here today, 16°C, sun is finally shining08:17
dholbachI'm getting closer and closer to being a fully happy man :)08:18
nigelbabu16 C *gulp*08:18
nigelbabuIts closer to 30+ here08:18
nigelbabuAlanBell: I could use some help of your creative genius with something I'm working on08:18
AlanBellyup, np nigelbabu08:19
dpm:)08:20
* jussi bites popey - good morning!09:37
* popey hugs jussi 09:44
* AlanBell gives popey a tetanus jab09:46
jussihahahah09:48
doctormoMorning jussi10:07
jussihullo doctormo10:07
doctormoAnything fun happening today10:07
jussifun? no...10:07
doctormoOh shame, I wuz gunner help if it were.10:08
* doctormo going for a restart10:09
nigelbabudoctormo: poke10:13
doctormonigelbabu: facebook-ultimate-bear-poke-back10:14
nigelbabudoctormo: haha, hold on, let me find what I'm poking you baout10:14
doctormonigelbabu: I thought you were poking me about the eye10:14
nigelbabuNow I have an official reason to be on facebook at work - I'm developing for it10:14
doctormoJust when everyone else was leaving :-P10:15
nigelbabuwell, not for it, but trying to give users a single sign-on through it10:15
czajkowskimorning10:30
nigelbabumorning czajkowski :)10:32
bencrisfordg'morning everyone :)11:18
dholbachdpm, jcastro: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-community.html11:30
dholbachit's "updated" now11:31
dpmthanks dholbach, I see that pitti has added you to work-items-tracker-hackers as well :)11:34
dholbach:)11:34
dholbachso whenever we need to "fix stuff"…11:34
nigelbabuyes, like every day ;)11:39
dpmdholbach, didn't we agree to start the line at 400?11:43
dholbachdpm: that'd make a very steep line :)11:43
dpm:)11:43
nigelbabudoes everything in the community track go into the burn down chart?11:57
czajkowskinigelbabu: nope not everything, only stuff jono has signed off on11:58
nigelbabuczajkowski: so that explains why ngo and accessibility is not there?11:58
czajkowskiaye11:58
nigelbabuok :)11:58
nigelbabuthank you czajkowski11:58
czajkowskinay bother11:59
Pendulumnigelbabu: thanks for mentioning accessibility, I need to remember to poke Luke about changing priority11:59
AlanBellit is in the chart11:59
nigelbabuAlanBell: err, where?12:00
nigelbabuI only see work items from patch review assigned to me and not anything else12:00
AlanBellnigelbabu: ah, I could be wrong12:01
nigelbabuAlanBell: hm12:02
nigelbabuPendulum: yes, we're scheduled to talk on saturday about the accessibility wiki12:02
Pendulumjcastro: fyi, I'm going to be at DebConf so if you need a hand with anything there, let me know12:12
doctormoPendulum: Where is DebConf being hosted?12:15
Pendulumdoctormo: NYC12:15
Pendulumat Columbai12:15
doctormoPendulum: Should i come?12:15
Pendulum*Columbia12:15
nigelbabuPendulum: you're going? WOW! How lucky :)12:15
Pendulumnigelbabu: self-sponsoring. But DebConf is cheap :) (compared to UDS at least)12:15
nigelbabuPendulum: hehe12:16
Pendulumdoctormo: I'm going because I had 1/2 dozen people at UDS suggest it even though I'm non-technical and got an e-mail from someone after my UW interview came out who'd figured out that I was in/near NYC and said "you should come"12:17
nigelbabuPendulum: I'll suggest you go too!12:18
cjohnstonI wanna go!12:18
* cjohnston is staying with Pendulum 12:18
doctormoPendulum: I'm thinking that since I do ground control, perhaps people there would be interested.12:18
nigelbabuactually debconf is a lot cheaper12:19
Pendulumcjohnston: I'm not in NYC anymore so you can't :P12:19
nigelbabuyou can stay at a HI hostel nearby I think12:19
Pendulumyou can12:19
nigelbabuwell, only if you book early12:19
nigelbabuI suppose the geeks will all be there :p12:19
Pendulumor if you register/confirm registration before 10 June, they've got dorm space at Columbia (which is a little more expensive than the hostel)12:19
PendulumI"m a bit sad as my flat was about 20 blocks away12:20
doctormoHow mcuh is it?12:20
Pendulumbut a lot more expensive to keep the flat an extra 3 months than just arrange housing for the week ;-)12:20
Pendulumdoctormo: Columbia housing is $53/night12:20
doctormoHow long is the conf?12:20
Penduluma week12:21
Pendulumdoctormo: http://debconf10.debconf.org/12:21
nigelbabuI thnk this is the HI Hostel http://www.hihostels.com/dba/hostels-HI---New-York-City-060003.en.htm12:23
nigelbabuPendulum: 891 Amsterdam Av at West 103rd is the right one?12:23
Pendulumyeah, that's the hostel12:23
PendulumI signed up for Columbia housing because subways run all night, but I can't take the subway and if I have my manual chair, going 20 blocks if it's late or I can't catch a bus isn't really possible12:24
nigelbabuI wish I were able to go for all these conferences12:25
cjohnstonoff to work.. have a good day all12:25
nigelbabucjohnston: later :)12:25
Pendulumnigelbabu: I can only do it because I quit my job and I should be getting a $3k security deposit back from my flat12:26
doctormoPendulum: I could do it if I took the bus, only costs $30 to get to NYC12:36
doctormoAssumming your happy putting your life on the line with Lucky Star12:36
doctormoAlthough I do like their $3 return ticket too, makes it almost the same price as the MBTA12:39
dholbach /query ara13:28
Pendulumdoctormo: so come! it'll be fun!13:37
doctormoPendulum: registered13:37
Pendulum:)13:37
PendulumI need to confirm my registration13:37
nigelbabudoctormo: have fun!13:41
nigelbabuGoing back home, catch you folks later!14:18
jcastroPendulum: thanks!14:24
jcastrodpm: dholbach: yikes, we're behind now!14:25
dholbachWORK WORK WORK!14:26
* highvoltage hides under desk15:08
jussiand do not shirk...15:08
highvoltageit's very easy to make a highvoltage dissapear reliably. just mention work.15:08
* jussi zaps highvoltage with highvoltage15:09
highvoltage*BBBBZZZZZZZZZT*15:09
doctormojussi: It's not the voltage that kills you, it's the current.15:46
doctormoalso bad for electrical fires.15:46
czajkowskiyer not well15:47
czajkowskiloons!15:47
jonomorning all15:50
dholbachhey jono15:50
jonohey dholbach15:50
akgranerCheck it out - Linaro: Accelerating Linux on ARM - http://fridge.ubuntu.com/16:24
dpm:)16:32
dpmmorning jono16:32
jonohey dpm16:33
jcastroakgraner: woo!16:40
jcastrojono: I was talking to ted about your platformy wiki pages and he says he had a whole oscon talk on it, sent you a link to the slides16:41
jcastroit sounds JAWESOME16:41
jonocool :)16:41
jcastrohttp://gould.cx/ted/presentations/oscon08/ <--- aha!16:41
czajkowskiwhy did read JAWESOM as Jameson16:44
czajkowskihmmm16:44
JFocuz you are an alkayhaulic(sic)? ;-)16:57
JFoakgraner, I'm loving seeing all the news daily16:57
dholbachok my friends - I call it a day!17:00
dholbachsee you tomorrow!17:00
* dholbach hugs you all17:01
doctormonight17:01
Technovikingneed to reboot the server, bbl17:20
akgranerJFo, thanks :-)17:50
JFo:)17:50
akgranerJFo, I didn't add you bug stuff cause I didn't see the announcement - but if you can get it to me a week in advance like next weeks info before Sunday we can add it to the Newsletter17:51
JFook17:51
JFoprobably going to have one next week too17:51
akgranerok if you can write up an announcement - and send it to ubuntu-devel or ubuntu-news-team - or just send me a link  - we can get it in17:52
jcastroJFo: don't forget our forums thing!17:53
JFoI know :)17:53
JFoI'm trying to get some basic wiki stuff so that we have a good place for the moderators to land people17:53
JFobut you and I do need to discuss17:53
JFowhat does your week look like next week jcastro?17:54
JFothink you can spare me some time?17:54
jcastroyup17:54
JFosweet17:54
jcastrothis week is pretty smoked17:54
JFoyeah, same here17:54
doctormojcastro: What does that mean? smoked out? tasty like smoked ham? running around a lot causing smoke from shoes?18:02
jcastrotired, slammed, busy, etc.18:02
JFoso doctormo if a person says "I'm smoked" that is a military phrase that is basically the same as "stick a fork in me, I'm done." or "letting the magic smoke out of a computer board"18:04
JFo:)18:04
JFowelcome to JFo's 3 degrees of computing18:04
czajkowskijcastro: any idea who I poke re a 404 http://www.ubuntu.com/community/leadership-conduct18:08
jcastroouch18:11
JFosounds like a candidate for a website bug18:11
jcastroczajkowski: file a bug on ubuntu-website-content-something18:12
jcastrolet me find it18:12
jcastroczajkowski: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website-content18:13
czajkowskicheers18:14
czajkowski:)18:14
pleia2hmm, /conduct no longer links to the leadership coc18:15
doctormoJFo: Your description just raises more questions.18:16
czajkowskiaye18:16
popeypleia2: thanks for replying to that mail18:17
JFodoctormo, :)18:17
pleia2popey: I feel compelled to reply to every one which addresses us as "gentlemen"18:17
popeyhaha18:17
popeyi did wince when i saw that18:17
pleia2:)18:17
jcastropopey: HI POPEY18:17
JFopleia2, who could blame you18:18
doctormoWho is a gentleman?18:18
popeyjcastro: HELLO JORGE!18:18
popeynot I18:18
jcastropopey: I have decided on my netbook18:18
JFodoctormo, clearly they don't know us18:18
popeyruh roh18:18
popeygo ahead caller..18:18
jcastrohttp://www.netbooklive.net/award-winning-asus-1218-eee-pc-pops-out-3423/18:18
JFoheh18:18
doctormopleia2: At least it wasn't gettlewere or gentlewif.18:18
jcastro(unless it gets horrible reviews)18:18
jcastroalso, it's not out yet18:18
pleia2popey: honestly though, I am not sure what can be done with the list (responsive list owners are nice, but content-wise there still are problem)18:18
popeyoooo netbook + ion18:18
jcastroindeed18:18
pleia2+s18:18
JFohow is it not out when it is award winning?18:19
popeypleia2: periodical spamming of the coc to the list?18:19
jcastroJFo: they gave it a design award before it even shipped (I know, loltastic)18:19
JFoheh18:19
pleia2popey: hah :) half the time they're so borderline..18:19
popeyhahaha " Ports were all moved on the back, for a sleeker aspect18:19
popeylike they ALL USED TO BE!18:19
popeywhat cpu is it?18:20
popeyN450?18:20
jcastrono clue, but probably18:20
JFojust goes to show... things always come back in style :)18:20
popeyanything else is partying like it's 199918:20
jcastropopey: I am hoping for all the proper pine trail bits (like the 14 hour battery life)18:21
JFoindeedy18:21
* JFo hugs his mini18:21
jcastrowhich mini? the dell or the hp?18:22
jcastroI have to admit, shoppinig for a netbook is pretty horrible. Asus alone has waaaaaay too many models18:22
JFoI may need to get one of those... err for kernel testing of course :)18:23
doctormojcastro: None of them with Ubuntu preinstalled18:23
jcastrodoctormo: yeah. :-/18:24
doctormoI wont buy any asus products after their spineless Microsoft appology/groveling.18:24
popeythis is why i avoided netbooks for my latest laptop and went for a 13" mac18:25
popeywhich still doesnt run linux :(18:25
doctormoAnd Apple, I'm quickly running out of manufacturers, I'll end up forging my own silican if I'm not careful.18:25
JFo:-(18:25
doctormopopey: That was dumb, why didn't you check the compatability?18:26
popeyi was reliably informed by a canonical employee that there would not be an issue18:26
JFopopey, I am working on USB images for MAC liveISO testing18:26
jcastropopey: you showed them when you got a mac instead!18:26
JFohope to have them out by Alpha218:26
popeycould probably have bought 4 netbooks for this mac :(18:27
popeythat would be awesome JFo18:27
JFoI'll let you know when they land18:27
popeygreat18:27
czajkowskipopey: hows the tooth?18:28
popeyczajkowski: going back for more18:28
JFoI thought he had more than the one when I saw him18:28
JFo:)18:28
popeyyes americans, some of us do visit dentists! :D18:28
doctormoRemember how MA LoCo was doing all that training each week at the SETC community center? Well while I was in Belgium they replaced all the PCs with iMacs (very expensive machines) and all that work is toast now.18:29
doctormoBasically canceled.18:29
popey:(18:29
doctormoAll the Apple love is killing Ubuntu18:30
* czajkowski HATEs the dentist18:30
czajkowskievil vile people18:30
popeydoctormo: bootable USB sticks an option?18:30
JFospeaking of which, I need to visit one before too much longer18:30
popeyI have just acquired 30 IBM thinkpad T41s which I want to use for some training like the stuff you've been doing doctormo18:30
doctormopopey: It's going to take some common sense knocked into their heads first, atm I can't trust that the time I invest is well spent when the rug can so easily be pulled from under me with little warning and not even a bloody email.18:31
popey:(18:32
popeyare they brand new imacs!?18:32
doctormoYes18:32
popeyholy cow thats expensive18:32
doctormo$90,000 worth of iMacs18:32
popeyhowever, i have a 20" imac here and ubuntu works fine off a live cd ;)18:32
JFowe can fix that18:32
* JFo laughs evilly18:33
doctormoOh I'm sure Ubuntu works from them, but we had a good system in place, netboots for installing all the required packages, ldap logins and a fully managed network. Now we have to put it all back together.18:33
doctormoThe idiots even bought a Mac server, even though they have no use for any kind of server18:34
doctormoLet alone a Mac server18:34
czajkowskidoctormo: they did that in a week, must have been working on that for some time18:34
doctormoOh and the Dell machines were taken away to an unknown place, not one was left, we could have had anything on them.18:35
popeyis there someone working against you there?18:35
czajkowskidoctormo: were they yours or the community center?18:35
doctormoczajkowski: The plan that I was told was that the front room was being replaced, fine, we teach in the back room, but apparently more iMacs appeared in the order so they thought what the hell, replace them all.18:36
doctormopopey: I think there is18:36
doctormopopey: I'm starting to hate anything connected to the MIT Media Lab18:36
popey:(18:36
doctormoIt's all Apple, Apple, Apple.18:36
JFosounds shady to me18:37
popeypleia2: yay, you got an apology!18:42
czajkowskiapologies are nice to get18:42
pleia2popey: yeah, I wasn't expecting it, nice fellow :)18:43
doctormoczajkowski: which mailing list was this?18:43
czajkowskidoctormo: I'm saying in general18:43
akgranerJFo, Jono - 103 people reg for UbuCon next Friday and 86 on Sunday18:51
JFosweet18:52
akgranerI thought half that number would be a success18:53
JanChm, I'm also looking into a ~12"-screen "netbook"/laptop18:53
androidjono_: ping19:00
jono_android, hey19:00
androidjono_: pm?19:00
androidjono_: havent figured out how to start a pm here, could you start?19:02
* android sighs at weird irc clients19:03
czajkowskiandroid: what client are you using ?19:04
androidczajkowski: andchat19:04
czajkowskiah ok i use connectbot19:06
czajkowskivery handy for irc19:06
androidThis is pretty nice, just cant figure out the one thing...19:07
popeyandroid: /query <user>19:07
androidpopey: true. ..19:09
jcastro<-- lunching19:09
czajkowskipleia2: *hugs* thank you19:54
pleia2czajkowski: of course! I'll also post it over on ubuntu-us.org in an article19:54
pleia2(and probably my blog)19:54
czajkowskicheers19:54
czajkowskipleia2: what way are the USA teams referred to as, name loco or how does usa fit into it ?19:55
pleia2depends on the team, usually it's "$state Team" ... like Pennsylvania Team or California Team19:56
pleia2the proper name would probably be "Ubuntu US Pennsylvania" or somesuch19:57
pleia2there isn't a whole lot of standardization tbh19:57
czajkowskipleia2: aye I'm noticing19:57
pleia2https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USTeams#Team Naming Standards19:58
czajkowskijust wondering re banners and stuff19:58
pleia2^^ those are the official standards, but not all teams follow them19:58
pleia2Georgia is an exception, their wiki had to be /GeorgiaUSTeam19:59
pleia2and poor Ubuntu Panama still gets trampled on by Pennsylvania calling itself "Ubuntu PA" /me had them fix much of that though19:59
czajkowskilol19:59
* pleia2 is careful to always spell out "california" so not to slight canada :)20:01
czajkowskiCA :)20:01
czajkowskiI'm just wondering regarding this banner issue I'm working on20:02
czajkowskiif all the teams could be named correctly20:02
pleia2what is the banner? and were do the names need to be listed correctly?20:02
czajkowskipleia2: rember the confernece session20:03
pleia2yeah, canonical shipping banners to approved teams?20:06
PendulumI thought the idea was maybe to just have a generic banner so it in't customized to the teams at all? (or am I remembering incorrectly)20:08
* AlanBell supports Pendulum's recollection20:10
AlanBellit is somewhat redundant to say which team it is for20:11
pleia2the pennsylvania banner is just a generic ubuntu one20:12
AlanBellif I am in the UK at a goat festival or whatever people turning up at the stall don't need to be told they are in the UK, they already know that20:12
czajkowskiAlanBell: well in usa it may not be20:12
czajkowskialso to seprate yourself from differnet local groups20:12
pleia2honestly I think teams in the US would be fine with generic banners20:12
AlanBelljust my humble opinion20:13
czajkowskipleia2: ok will take that into account also so20:13
pleia2if it makes things easier on canonical and pricing and all20:13
Pendulumalso, I suspect, would make it easier to get the banners quicker20:14
czajkowskipossibly but some teams want say for example Ubuntu Ireland LoCo20:15
pleia2doing one-offs each time a team is approved is probably going to be expensive20:15
AlanBellif they are individual then you will send them out and some will come back with comments about them being "wrong" in some way20:16
AlanBellwrong loco team font, should it be in English or local language, should the loco designed logo be used etc. etc.20:17
pleia2yeah20:17
AlanBella loco can make a second banner with their own identity on it if they want20:18
akgranerjust my two cents on the banners is just a simple Ubuntu Banner20:21
akgranerwith the right Logo20:21
akgranerand font20:21
AlanBelland a picture of a goat20:22
akgranerHAHA20:22
akgraner:-P20:22
pleia2lol20:22
Pendulumhaha20:23
akgranerwoo hoo - I am connected again :-)23:05
cjohnstonmy attempt to dc akgraner failed23:40
akgranercjohnston, sorry :-(  I am connected using my n900 so I am sure there is some lag time23:41
cjohnstonheh23:41
cjohnstonyou good for the meeting?23:41
akgranercjohnston, I think so  - but as I was telling pleia2 incase I drop offline - I was going to go over the blueprint and just see if anyone had questions or  suggestions23:42
cjohnstonk23:42
akgranerso that after SELF (June 11-13) we could just get cranking on it23:43
akgranerI'll have a 2 week window before surgery to get stuff done23:43
akgranercjohnston, I am having trouble connecting to LP though  - can you grab the link for the Blueprint please?23:46
cjohnstonhttps://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/fridge/+spec/community-m-fridge-and-news-team23:47
akgranercjohnston, thanks :-) you rock as always!23:47
cjohnston:-)23:48
akgranerboredandblogging, hey!23:48
akgranerboredandblogging, I have a whole section of UWN with your name on it  - I think the newsletter is missing you  - just sayin :-P23:49

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