[03:17] JFo: +1 for the rubber mellet ;) [04:23] nigelb, :) [04:24] JFo: Shall we start the public campaign - raise money for pete to but a rubber mallet. Its to help a poor soul who doesnt stop working despite pain ;) [04:24] heh, I think we should [05:30] doctormo: around? [06:28] o/ [07:24] good morning all! [07:27] morning ara [07:28] morning jussi [07:28] morning ara :) [07:29] morning nigelbabu [07:29] jussi, I couldn't contact daviey in the end, do you have his email address? [07:30] ara: actually I dont, but Im sure AlanBell does... [07:51] ara: 20:51 < Daviey> AlanBell: okay, i'll add it after the meeting [07:51] presume he didn't as you are asking again, but he does know about the request [07:51] he had to leave before the end of the meeting [07:52] AlanBell, OK, thanks [07:55] https://launchpad.net/~davewalker email address [07:56] AlanBell, thanks again [08:06] morning everyone [08:07] morning dpm, dholbach :) [08:08] good morning [08:08] hey nigelbabu, hey dpm [08:08] nigelbabu: the script finished last night [08:09] nigelbabu: we're good to go [08:09] dholbach: yay, so I'll just write out the workflow and I guess we can launch some time today :) [08:09] nigelbabu: awesome [08:09] nigelbabu: how's India today? [08:09] dpm: how's Spain today? [08:09] dholbach: warm, but cloudy. I'm close to pulling out my hair though [08:10] nigelbabu: why's that? [08:10] dholbach: trying to get google maps to play nice and failing [08:11] ah ok [08:16] dholbach, it's cooled down a bit, bit [08:16] but still warm [08:17] hey nigelbabu [08:17] hola dpm :) [08:17] dpm: summer is starting here today, 16°C, sun is finally shining [08:18] I'm getting closer and closer to being a fully happy man :) [08:18] 16 C *gulp* [08:18] Its closer to 30+ here [08:18] AlanBell: I could use some help of your creative genius with something I'm working on [08:19] yup, np nigelbabu [08:20] :) [09:37] * jussi bites popey - good morning! [09:44] * popey hugs jussi [09:46] * AlanBell gives popey a tetanus jab [09:48] hahahah [10:07] Morning jussi [10:07] hullo doctormo [10:07] Anything fun happening today [10:07] fun? no... [10:08] Oh shame, I wuz gunner help if it were. [10:09] * doctormo going for a restart [10:13] doctormo: poke [10:14] nigelbabu: facebook-ultimate-bear-poke-back [10:14] doctormo: haha, hold on, let me find what I'm poking you baout [10:14] nigelbabu: I thought you were poking me about the eye [10:14] Now I have an official reason to be on facebook at work - I'm developing for it [10:15] Just when everyone else was leaving :-P [10:15] well, not for it, but trying to give users a single sign-on through it [10:30] morning [10:32] morning czajkowski :) [11:18] g'morning everyone :) [11:30] dpm, jcastro: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-community.html [11:31] it's "updated" now [11:34] thanks dholbach, I see that pitti has added you to work-items-tracker-hackers as well :) [11:34] :) [11:34] so whenever we need to "fix stuff"… [11:39] yes, like every day ;) [11:43] dholbach, didn't we agree to start the line at 400? [11:43] dpm: that'd make a very steep line :) [11:43] :) [11:57] does everything in the community track go into the burn down chart? [11:58] nigelbabu: nope not everything, only stuff jono has signed off on [11:58] czajkowski: so that explains why ngo and accessibility is not there? [11:58] aye [11:58] ok :) [11:58] thank you czajkowski [11:59] nay bother [11:59] nigelbabu: thanks for mentioning accessibility, I need to remember to poke Luke about changing priority [11:59] it is in the chart [12:00] AlanBell: err, where? [12:00] I only see work items from patch review assigned to me and not anything else [12:01] nigelbabu: ah, I could be wrong [12:02] AlanBell: hm [12:02] Pendulum: yes, we're scheduled to talk on saturday about the accessibility wiki [12:12] jcastro: fyi, I'm going to be at DebConf so if you need a hand with anything there, let me know [12:15] Pendulum: Where is DebConf being hosted? [12:15] doctormo: NYC [12:15] at Columbai [12:15] Pendulum: Should i come? [12:15] *Columbia [12:15] Pendulum: you're going? WOW! How lucky :) [12:15] nigelbabu: self-sponsoring. But DebConf is cheap :) (compared to UDS at least) [12:16] Pendulum: hehe [12:17] doctormo: I'm going because I had 1/2 dozen people at UDS suggest it even though I'm non-technical and got an e-mail from someone after my UW interview came out who'd figured out that I was in/near NYC and said "you should come" [12:18] Pendulum: I'll suggest you go too! [12:18] I wanna go! [12:18] * cjohnston is staying with Pendulum [12:18] Pendulum: I'm thinking that since I do ground control, perhaps people there would be interested. [12:19] actually debconf is a lot cheaper [12:19] cjohnston: I'm not in NYC anymore so you can't :P [12:19] you can stay at a HI hostel nearby I think [12:19] you can [12:19] well, only if you book early [12:19] I suppose the geeks will all be there :p [12:19] or if you register/confirm registration before 10 June, they've got dorm space at Columbia (which is a little more expensive than the hostel) [12:20] I"m a bit sad as my flat was about 20 blocks away [12:20] How mcuh is it? [12:20] but a lot more expensive to keep the flat an extra 3 months than just arrange housing for the week ;-) [12:20] doctormo: Columbia housing is $53/night [12:20] How long is the conf? [12:21] a week [12:21] doctormo: http://debconf10.debconf.org/ [12:23] I thnk this is the HI Hostel http://www.hihostels.com/dba/hostels-HI---New-York-City-060003.en.htm [12:23] Pendulum: 891 Amsterdam Av at West 103rd is the right one? [12:23] yeah, that's the hostel [12:24] I signed up for Columbia housing because subways run all night, but I can't take the subway and if I have my manual chair, going 20 blocks if it's late or I can't catch a bus isn't really possible [12:25] I wish I were able to go for all these conferences [12:25] off to work.. have a good day all [12:25] cjohnston: later :) [12:26] nigelbabu: I can only do it because I quit my job and I should be getting a $3k security deposit back from my flat [12:36] Pendulum: I could do it if I took the bus, only costs $30 to get to NYC [12:36] Assumming your happy putting your life on the line with Lucky Star [12:39] Although I do like their $3 return ticket too, makes it almost the same price as the MBTA [13:28] /query ara [13:37] doctormo: so come! it'll be fun! [13:37] Pendulum: registered [13:37] :) [13:37] I need to confirm my registration [13:41] doctormo: have fun! [14:18] Going back home, catch you folks later! [14:24] Pendulum: thanks! [14:25] dpm: dholbach: yikes, we're behind now! [14:26] WORK WORK WORK! [15:08] * highvoltage hides under desk [15:08] and do not shirk... [15:08] it's very easy to make a highvoltage dissapear reliably. just mention work. [15:09] * jussi zaps highvoltage with highvoltage [15:09] *BBBBZZZZZZZZZT* [15:46] jussi: It's not the voltage that kills you, it's the current. [15:46] also bad for electrical fires. [15:47] yer not well [15:47] loons! [15:50] morning all [15:50] hey jono [15:50] hey dholbach [16:24] Check it out - Linaro: Accelerating Linux on ARM - http://fridge.ubuntu.com/ [16:32] :) [16:32] morning jono [16:33] hey dpm [16:40] akgraner: woo! [16:41] jono: I was talking to ted about your platformy wiki pages and he says he had a whole oscon talk on it, sent you a link to the slides [16:41] it sounds JAWESOME [16:41] cool :) [16:41] http://gould.cx/ted/presentations/oscon08/ <--- aha! [16:44] why did read JAWESOM as Jameson [16:44] hmmm [16:57] cuz you are an alkayhaulic(sic)? ;-) [16:57] akgraner, I'm loving seeing all the news daily [17:00] ok my friends - I call it a day! [17:00] see you tomorrow! [17:01] * dholbach hugs you all [17:01] night [17:20] need to reboot the server, bbl [17:50] JFo, thanks :-) [17:50] :) [17:51] JFo, I didn't add you bug stuff cause I didn't see the announcement - but if you can get it to me a week in advance like next weeks info before Sunday we can add it to the Newsletter [17:51] ok [17:51] probably going to have one next week too [17:52] ok if you can write up an announcement - and send it to ubuntu-devel or ubuntu-news-team - or just send me a link - we can get it in [17:53] JFo: don't forget our forums thing! [17:53] I know :) [17:53] I'm trying to get some basic wiki stuff so that we have a good place for the moderators to land people [17:53] but you and I do need to discuss [17:54] what does your week look like next week jcastro? [17:54] think you can spare me some time? [17:54] yup [17:54] sweet [17:54] this week is pretty smoked [17:54] yeah, same here [18:02] jcastro: What does that mean? smoked out? tasty like smoked ham? running around a lot causing smoke from shoes? [18:02] tired, slammed, busy, etc. [18:04] so doctormo if a person says "I'm smoked" that is a military phrase that is basically the same as "stick a fork in me, I'm done." or "letting the magic smoke out of a computer board" [18:04] :) [18:04] welcome to JFo's 3 degrees of computing [18:08] jcastro: any idea who I poke re a 404 http://www.ubuntu.com/community/leadership-conduct [18:11] ouch [18:11] sounds like a candidate for a website bug [18:12] czajkowski: file a bug on ubuntu-website-content-something [18:12] let me find it [18:13] czajkowski: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website-content [18:14] cheers [18:14] :) [18:15] hmm, /conduct no longer links to the leadership coc [18:16] JFo: Your description just raises more questions. [18:16] aye [18:17] pleia2: thanks for replying to that mail [18:17] doctormo, :) [18:17] popey: I feel compelled to reply to every one which addresses us as "gentlemen" [18:17] haha [18:17] i did wince when i saw that [18:17] :) [18:17] popey: HI POPEY [18:18] pleia2, who could blame you [18:18] Who is a gentleman? [18:18] jcastro: HELLO JORGE! [18:18] not I [18:18] popey: I have decided on my netbook [18:18] doctormo, clearly they don't know us [18:18] ruh roh [18:18] go ahead caller.. [18:18] http://www.netbooklive.net/award-winning-asus-1218-eee-pc-pops-out-3423/ [18:18] heh [18:18] pleia2: At least it wasn't gettlewere or gentlewif. [18:18] (unless it gets horrible reviews) [18:18] also, it's not out yet [18:18] popey: honestly though, I am not sure what can be done with the list (responsive list owners are nice, but content-wise there still are problem) [18:18] oooo netbook + ion [18:18] indeed [18:18] +s [18:19] how is it not out when it is award winning? [18:19] pleia2: periodical spamming of the coc to the list? [18:19] JFo: they gave it a design award before it even shipped (I know, loltastic) [18:19] heh [18:19] popey: hah :) half the time they're so borderline.. [18:19] hahaha " Ports were all moved on the back, for a sleeker aspect [18:19] like they ALL USED TO BE! [18:20] what cpu is it? [18:20] N450? [18:20] no clue, but probably [18:20] just goes to show... things always come back in style :) [18:20] anything else is partying like it's 1999 [18:21] popey: I am hoping for all the proper pine trail bits (like the 14 hour battery life) [18:21] indeedy [18:21] * JFo hugs his mini [18:22] which mini? the dell or the hp? [18:22] I have to admit, shoppinig for a netbook is pretty horrible. Asus alone has waaaaaay too many models [18:23] I may need to get one of those... err for kernel testing of course :) [18:23] jcastro: None of them with Ubuntu preinstalled [18:24] doctormo: yeah. :-/ [18:24] I wont buy any asus products after their spineless Microsoft appology/groveling. [18:25] this is why i avoided netbooks for my latest laptop and went for a 13" mac [18:25] which still doesnt run linux :( [18:25] And Apple, I'm quickly running out of manufacturers, I'll end up forging my own silican if I'm not careful. [18:25] :-( [18:26] popey: That was dumb, why didn't you check the compatability? [18:26] i was reliably informed by a canonical employee that there would not be an issue [18:26] popey, I am working on USB images for MAC liveISO testing [18:26] popey: you showed them when you got a mac instead! [18:26] hope to have them out by Alpha2 [18:27] could probably have bought 4 netbooks for this mac :( [18:27] that would be awesome JFo [18:27] I'll let you know when they land [18:27] great [18:28] popey: hows the tooth? [18:28] czajkowski: going back for more [18:28] I thought he had more than the one when I saw him [18:28] :) [18:28] yes americans, some of us do visit dentists! :D [18:29] Remember how MA LoCo was doing all that training each week at the SETC community center? Well while I was in Belgium they replaced all the PCs with iMacs (very expensive machines) and all that work is toast now. [18:29] Basically canceled. [18:29] :( [18:30] All the Apple love is killing Ubuntu [18:30] * czajkowski HATEs the dentist [18:30] evil vile people [18:30] doctormo: bootable USB sticks an option? [18:30] speaking of which, I need to visit one before too much longer [18:30] I have just acquired 30 IBM thinkpad T41s which I want to use for some training like the stuff you've been doing doctormo [18:31] popey: It's going to take some common sense knocked into their heads first, atm I can't trust that the time I invest is well spent when the rug can so easily be pulled from under me with little warning and not even a bloody email. [18:32] :( [18:32] are they brand new imacs!? [18:32] Yes [18:32] holy cow thats expensive [18:32] $90,000 worth of iMacs [18:32] however, i have a 20" imac here and ubuntu works fine off a live cd ;) [18:32] we can fix that [18:33] * JFo laughs evilly [18:33] Oh I'm sure Ubuntu works from them, but we had a good system in place, netboots for installing all the required packages, ldap logins and a fully managed network. Now we have to put it all back together. [18:34] The idiots even bought a Mac server, even though they have no use for any kind of server [18:34] Let alone a Mac server [18:34] doctormo: they did that in a week, must have been working on that for some time [18:35] Oh and the Dell machines were taken away to an unknown place, not one was left, we could have had anything on them. [18:35] is there someone working against you there? [18:35] doctormo: were they yours or the community center? [18:36] czajkowski: The plan that I was told was that the front room was being replaced, fine, we teach in the back room, but apparently more iMacs appeared in the order so they thought what the hell, replace them all. [18:36] popey: I think there is [18:36] popey: I'm starting to hate anything connected to the MIT Media Lab [18:36] :( [18:36] It's all Apple, Apple, Apple. [18:37] sounds shady to me [18:42] pleia2: yay, you got an apology! [18:42] apologies are nice to get [18:43] popey: yeah, I wasn't expecting it, nice fellow :) [18:43] czajkowski: which mailing list was this? [18:43] doctormo: I'm saying in general [18:51] JFo, Jono - 103 people reg for UbuCon next Friday and 86 on Sunday [18:52] sweet [18:53] I thought half that number would be a success [18:53] hm, I'm also looking into a ~12"-screen "netbook"/laptop [19:00] jono_: ping [19:00] android, hey [19:00] jono_: pm? [19:02] jono_: havent figured out how to start a pm here, could you start? [19:03] * android sighs at weird irc clients [19:04] android: what client are you using ? [19:04] czajkowski: andchat [19:06] ah ok i use connectbot [19:06] very handy for irc [19:07] This is pretty nice, just cant figure out the one thing... [19:07] android: /query [19:09] popey: true. .. [19:09] <-- lunching [19:54] pleia2: *hugs* thank you [19:54] czajkowski: of course! I'll also post it over on ubuntu-us.org in an article [19:54] (and probably my blog) [19:54] cheers [19:55] pleia2: what way are the USA teams referred to as, name loco or how does usa fit into it ? [19:56] depends on the team, usually it's "$state Team" ... like Pennsylvania Team or California Team [19:57] the proper name would probably be "Ubuntu US Pennsylvania" or somesuch [19:57] there isn't a whole lot of standardization tbh [19:57] pleia2: aye I'm noticing [19:58] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USTeams#Team Naming Standards [19:58] just wondering re banners and stuff [19:58] ^^ those are the official standards, but not all teams follow them [19:59] Georgia is an exception, their wiki had to be /GeorgiaUSTeam [19:59] and poor Ubuntu Panama still gets trampled on by Pennsylvania calling itself "Ubuntu PA" /me had them fix much of that though [19:59] lol [20:01] * pleia2 is careful to always spell out "california" so not to slight canada :) [20:01] CA :) [20:02] I'm just wondering regarding this banner issue I'm working on [20:02] if all the teams could be named correctly [20:02] what is the banner? and were do the names need to be listed correctly? [20:03] pleia2: rember the confernece session [20:06] yeah, canonical shipping banners to approved teams? [20:08] I thought the idea was maybe to just have a generic banner so it in't customized to the teams at all? (or am I remembering incorrectly) [20:10] * AlanBell supports Pendulum's recollection [20:11] it is somewhat redundant to say which team it is for [20:12] the pennsylvania banner is just a generic ubuntu one [20:12] if I am in the UK at a goat festival or whatever people turning up at the stall don't need to be told they are in the UK, they already know that [20:12] AlanBell: well in usa it may not be [20:12] also to seprate yourself from differnet local groups [20:12] honestly I think teams in the US would be fine with generic banners [20:13] just my humble opinion [20:13] pleia2: ok will take that into account also so [20:13] if it makes things easier on canonical and pricing and all [20:14] also, I suspect, would make it easier to get the banners quicker [20:15] possibly but some teams want say for example Ubuntu Ireland LoCo [20:15] doing one-offs each time a team is approved is probably going to be expensive [20:16] if they are individual then you will send them out and some will come back with comments about them being "wrong" in some way [20:17] wrong loco team font, should it be in English or local language, should the loco designed logo be used etc. etc. [20:17] yeah [20:18] a loco can make a second banner with their own identity on it if they want [20:21] just my two cents on the banners is just a simple Ubuntu Banner [20:21] with the right Logo [20:21] and font [20:22] and a picture of a goat [20:22] HAHA [20:22] :-P [20:22] lol [20:23] haha [23:05] woo hoo - I am connected again :-) [23:40] my attempt to dc akgraner failed [23:41] cjohnston, sorry :-( I am connected using my n900 so I am sure there is some lag time [23:41] heh [23:41] you good for the meeting? [23:42] cjohnston, I think so - but as I was telling pleia2 incase I drop offline - I was going to go over the blueprint and just see if anyone had questions or suggestions [23:42] k [23:43] so that after SELF (June 11-13) we could just get cranking on it [23:43] I'll have a 2 week window before surgery to get stuff done [23:46] cjohnston, I am having trouble connecting to LP though - can you grab the link for the Blueprint please? [23:47] https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/fridge/+spec/community-m-fridge-and-news-team [23:47] cjohnston, thanks :-) you rock as always! [23:48] :-) [23:48] boredandblogging, hey! [23:49] boredandblogging, I have a whole section of UWN with your name on it - I think the newsletter is missing you - just sayin :-P