| ChrisWoollard | G'night all. Until tomorrow. | 00:05 |
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| rickspencer3 | godbyk, ah, so I screwed this up a bit ... I don';t think xelatex was installed to the right place, and I scipped the "make the sym links step" | 00:21 |
| godbyk | rickspencer3: everyone does. | 00:22 |
| godbyk | there's a fix, though | 00:23 |
| godbyk | did you use the default paths? | 00:23 |
| rickspencer3 | yeah, I just hit "do it" | 00:23 |
| godbyk | okay | 00:23 |
| godbyk | type 'sudo apt-get install perl-tk' | 00:24 |
| rickspencer3 | I guess I just need to know where there were put, and drop sym links in /bin/bash and such? | 00:24 |
| godbyk | then 'sudo /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/scripts/texlive/tlmgr --gui' | 00:24 |
| rickspencer3 | ok | 00:24 |
| godbyk | even better.. there's an option in the gui to do it for you. | 00:24 |
| godbyk | let me know when you've got the gui up. | 00:25 |
| godbyk | (or if you hit snags before then) | 00:25 |
| rickspencer3 | hmmm | 00:26 |
| rickspencer3 | lots of snags | 00:26 |
| rickspencer3 | rick@rick-desktop:~/Projects/developer-manual$ sudo /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/scripts/texlive/tlmgrgui/tlmgrgui.pl | 00:26 |
| rickspencer3 | Can't locate TeXLive/Splashscreen.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/scripts/texlive/tlmgrgui/tlmgrgui.pl line 17. | 00:26 |
| rickspencer3 | BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/scripts/texlive/tlmgrgui/tlmgrgui.pl line 17. | 00:26 |
| godbyk | it should be at /usr/local/texlive/2009/tlpkg/TeXLive/Splashscreen.pm | 00:28 |
| godbyk | maybe go into that directory and run ./tlmgr --gui from there. | 00:28 |
| godbyk | there should definitely be an easier way. :) | 00:29 |
| godbyk | one moment | 00:29 |
| godbyk | lemme see if the command-line version has an option for it | 00:29 |
| godbyk | Try: "sudo tlmgr path add" | 00:30 |
| godbyk | Try: "sudo tlmgr option path add" | 00:31 |
| godbyk | (the latter) | 00:31 |
| rickspencer3 | right | 00:32 |
| godbyk | actually, I take it back. | 00:32 |
| rickspencer3 | so just add /bin/bash/ ? | 00:32 |
| rickspencer3 | oops, ok | 00:32 |
| godbyk | I think it is just 'sudo tlmgr path add' | 00:32 |
| * rickspencer3 waits | 00:32 | |
| godbyk | no 'option'. (the man page is difficult to read.) | 00:32 |
| godbyk | what happens if you run 'sudo tlmgr path add'? | 00:32 |
| rickspencer3 | rick@rick-desktop:/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/scripts/texlive$ sudo ./tlmgr.pl path add | 00:33 |
| rickspencer3 | Can't locate TeXLive/TLConfig.pm in @INC (@INC contains: ./../../texmf/scripts/texlive ./../../tlpkg /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at ./tlmgr.pl line 78. | 00:33 |
| rickspencer3 | BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at ./tlmgr.pl line 78. | 00:33 |
| godbyk | okay, "cd /usr/local/texlive/2009/tlpkg/TeXLive/" | 00:35 |
| godbyk | then "sudo /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/scripts/texlive/tlmgr.pl path add" | 00:35 |
| rickspencer3 | godbyk, ok, I had to tweak that slightly to run | 00:40 |
| Kerry_Hatcher | Hi everyone I'm back | 00:40 |
| rickspencer3 | no wait | 00:40 |
| rickspencer3 | oops | 00:40 |
| godbyk | what'd you have to tweak? | 00:40 |
| rickspencer3 | yeah, I did | 00:40 |
| rickspencer3 | I add to, essentially cd /usr/local/texlive/2009/tlpkg/ | 00:40 |
| rickspencer3 | oops | 00:41 |
| rickspencer3 | well, it ran, but with a different error :/ | 00:41 |
| rickspencer3 | rick@rick-desktop:/usr/local/texlive/2009/tlpkg/TeXLive$ sudo /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/scripts/texlive/tlmgr.pl path add | 00:42 |
| rickspencer3 | Can't locate TeXLive/TLConfig.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/scripts/texlive/../../texmf/scripts/texlive /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/scripts/texlive/../../tlpkg /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/scripts/texlive/tlmgr.pl line 78. | 00:42 |
| rickspencer3 | BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/scripts/texlive/tlmgr.pl line 78. | 00:42 |
| rickspencer3 | rick@rick-desktop:/usr/local/texlive/2009/tlpkg/TeXLive$ ls | 00:42 |
| rickspencer3 | Splashscreen.pm TLConfig.pm TLMedia.pm TLPDB.pm TLPostActions.pm TLTREE.pm TLWinGoo.pm waitVariableX.pm | 00:42 |
| rickspencer3 | TeXCatalogue.pm TLDownload.pm TLPaper.pm TLPOBJ.pm TLPSRC.pm TLUtils.pm trans.pl | 00:42 |
| rickspencer3 | rick@rick-desktop:/usr/local/texlive/2009/tlpkg$ sudo /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/scripts/texlive/tlmgr.pl path add | 00:43 |
| rickspencer3 | Can't exec "kpsewhich": No such file or directory at /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/scripts/texlive/tlmgr.pl line 315. | 00:43 |
| rickspencer3 | Use of uninitialized value $texmfsysvar in scalar chomp at /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/scripts/texlive/tlmgr.pl line 315. | 00:43 |
| rickspencer3 | Use of uninitialized value $texmfsysvar in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/scripts/texlive/tlmgr.pl line 317. | 00:43 |
| rickspencer3 | Can't exec "kpsewhich": No such file or directory at /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/scripts/texlive/tlmgr.pl line 4287. | 00:43 |
| rickspencer3 | Use of uninitialized value $TEXMFCONFIG in scalar chomp at /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/scripts/texlive/tlmgr.pl line 4287. | 00:43 |
| rickspencer3 | Use of uninitialized value $TEXMFCONFIG in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/scripts/texlive/tlmgr.pl line 4288. | 00:43 |
| rickspencer3 | cannot setup TLMedia in /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/scripts/texlive/../.. at /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/scripts/texlive/tlmgr.pl line 4074. | 00:43 |
| godbyk | maybe cd .. and run tlmgr again? | 00:45 |
| godbyk | (since it has the TeXLive path baked in) | 00:45 |
| godbyk | I'm not sure. | 00:45 |
| godbyk | otherwise, you can run the install script again and select that option this time. | 00:46 |
| godbyk | It *should* detect that you've installed already and not download everything again. | 00:46 |
| rickspencer3 | hmmm | 00:46 |
| rickspencer3 | it concerns me that it's not functioning now though | 00:46 |
| rickspencer3 | let me poke at it a bit | 00:47 |
| godbyk | 'kay. | 00:49 |
| godbyk | see what happens when you don't follow the instructions closely? :) | 00:49 |
| godbyk | (there are quite a lot of symlinks that it creates, so it's best to have it do it for you.) | 00:49 |
| godbyk | (and if you have suggestions on how I can make those instructions more clear, let me know!) | 00:49 |
| rickspencer3 | godbyk, yeah, I screwed it up | 00:53 |
| rickspencer3 | if I rerun the installer, which directors should I specify? | 00:53 |
| godbyk | rickspencer3: just accept the defaults and you should be okay. | 00:54 |
| rickspencer3 | screw it, I'm rerunning the installer | 00:54 |
| rickspencer3 | godbyk, so if it says this: | 00:54 |
| rickspencer3 | New value for binary directory [/usr/local/bin]: | 00:54 |
| rickspencer3 | what do I put? | 00:55 |
| godbyk | you can accept the defaults, typically. | 00:55 |
| rickspencer3 | just hit enter? | 00:55 |
| godbyk | you should have /usr/local/bin in your PATH environment variable. | 00:55 |
| godbyk | yeah. | 00:55 |
| godbyk | brb | 00:55 |
| rickspencer3 | fudge, it's redownloading everything I guess | 00:56 |
| rickspencer3 | good time to take a break | 00:56 |
| ChrisWoollard | Maybe the ppa would have been a better idea. | 06:45 |
| ChrisWoollard | This is not strictly a manual related link. But i did think it an absolute work of genius. So I will share anyway. | 10:00 |
| ChrisWoollard | http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2010/06/02/the_genius_of_the_lego_printer/ | 10:00 |
| nisshh | for anyone who is interested, maverick alpha 1 is out! | 15:17 |
| * humphreybc-mini is on his little wee netbook | 16:45 | |
| dutchie | how exciting | 16:46 |
| humphreybc-mini | very- | 16:46 |
| humphreybc-mini | I found netbook edition to be shit | 16:46 |
| humphreybc-mini | so i | 16:46 |
| dutchie | dunno why you got a mini 9 when you could have got a 10v | 16:46 |
| humphreybc-mini | so im running gnome instead | 16:46 |
| humphreybc-mini | because we cant get the 10s with an SSD | 16:46 |
| humphreybc-mini | coz dell NZ suck | 16:47 |
| dutchie | oh | 16:47 |
| dutchie | s/dell // | 16:48 |
| dutchie | :P | 16:48 |
| humphreybc-mini | lol | 16:49 |
| humphreybc-mini | ubuntu, with compiz, runs fairly well | 16:49 |
| humphreybc-mini | whatever window manager UNE uses is terrible though | 16:49 |
| dutchie | maximus | 16:49 |
| humphreybc-mini | unity is nice, but it crashes whenever I try to add something to the dock | 16:50 |
| humphreybc-mini | otherwise i | 16:50 |
| humphreybc-mini | otherwise i'd be using that | 16:50 |
| humphreybc-mini | the enter key is where apostrophe should be | 16:50 |
| humphreybc-mini | the ambiance them actually looks half decent on this for some reason though | 16:53 |
| humphreybc-mini | I'm actually using it as default :O | 16:53 |
| dutchie | i like the ambience theme | 16:53 |
| humphreybc-mini | stoked that compiz works | 16:54 |
| rickspencer3 | godbyk hi | 17:58 |
| rickspencer3 | so make runs now | 17:58 |
| rickspencer3 | which is good | 17:58 |
| rickspencer3 | but I get hundreds of errors like this: | 17:58 |
| rickspencer3 | ! \textfont 0 is undefined (character u). | 17:58 |
| rickspencer3 | \Url@FormatString ...\Url@String \UrlRight \m@th $ | 17:58 |
| rickspencer3 | 17:58 | |
| rickspencer3 | l.102 \url{http://www.ubuntu-manual.org/} | 17:58 |
| rickspencer3 | 17:58 | |
| rickspencer3 | ? | 17:58 |
| rickspencer3 | and then a blank pdf is created | 17:58 |
| godbyk | rickspencer3: did you run the pkgs/install-pkgs.sh script? | 18:11 |
| rickspencer3 | yeah | 18:11 |
| godbyk | okay. | 18:11 |
| rickspencer3 | I think | 18:11 |
| rickspencer3 | :/ | 18:11 |
| godbyk | Can you paste the .log file for me? | 18:11 |
| rickspencer3 | it was yesterday ... and I remember looking at it | 18:12 |
| rickspencer3 | main.log? | 18:12 |
| godbyk | yeah | 18:13 |
| rickspencer3 | godbyk: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/444156/ | 18:14 |
| godbyk | rickspencer3: ah, it's complaining because you're missing the graphics/advanced.pdf and graphics/warning.pdf files. | 18:17 |
| godbyk | you can copy those from the ubuntu-manual repository. | 18:17 |
| rickspencer3 | can do | 18:17 |
| godbyk | You also need to make sure you have the Linux Libertine OpenType fonts installed. | 18:18 |
| godbyk | I think that the ttf-linux-libertine package provides them. | 18:18 |
| godbyk | If not, you can get them from SourceForge. (The link is on the last page of the Ubuntu manual [in the colophon].) | 18:18 |
| godbyk | Same with Linux Biolinum. It comes from the same SF site. Otherwise ttf-linux-biolinum, I think. | 18:19 |
| godbyk | And you need DejaVu Sans Mono. | 18:19 |
| rickspencer3 | dang | 18:20 |
| godbyk | Those are the big problems I see. We'll see what other problems exist after you've cleared those up. :) | 18:20 |
| rickspencer3 | hmm | 18:20 |
| rickspencer3 | I could apt-get install ttf-linux-libertine | 18:21 |
| rickspencer3 | but not ttf-linux-biolinum | 18:21 |
| rickspencer3 | and don't know where to get DejaVu Sand Mono | 18:21 |
| rickspencer3 | so, source forge it is | 18:21 |
| godbyk | SF will get you the latest versions of Linux Libertine and Linux Biolinum. | 18:22 |
| godbyk | Linux Biolinum is a new font and is quite preliminary, so it may not be packaged yet. | 18:23 |
| godbyk | DejaVu Sans Mono is available in one of the ttf-dejavu* packages. (Just install 'em all.) | 18:23 |
| ubuntujenkins | howdy all, did i miss much, irc is too much of a revision distraction | 18:42 |
| * ubuntujenkins is excited that he has done"engineering management: Finance, Law and Quality" ! | 18:43 | |
| rickspencer3 | godbyk I'm confused, where exactly do I find the SF links? | 18:44 |
| ubuntujenkins | rick are you still trying to install latex? | 18:45 |
| rickspencer3 | ubuntujenkins, no, fonts and such | 18:48 |
| rickspencer3 | I am wondering if I didn't use su for ./install.sh | 18:48 |
| rickspencer3 | so I'm trying that again | 18:48 |
| ubuntujenkins | ouch it has taken a while to do it all | 18:49 |
| godbyk | rickspencer3: I think you didn't use the install-pkgs.sh script. | 18:50 |
| rickspencer3 | godbyk I think I used it, but without sudo | 18:50 |
| rickspencer3 | so I'm running it with sudo, and it says it's installing stuff | 18:50 |
| godbyk | rickspencer3: But if you open the PDF of Getting Started with Ubuntu 10.04, go to the very last page, it'll give you the links to the fonts. | 18:50 |
| godbyk | You shouldn't have to run it with sudo -- it'll use sudo internally. (It'll ask for your password if it needs it). | 18:50 |
| rickspencer3 | well, I ran it with sudo and it worked | 18:55 |
| rickspencer3 | so now it looks like I just need to set up the glossary and stuff like that | 18:55 |
| rickspencer3 | thanks godbyk! | 18:55 |
| rickspencer3 | I have a main.pdf :) | 18:56 |
| godbyk | cool | 18:56 |
| godbyk | any more error messages? | 18:56 |
| rickspencer3 | yeah, but there were due to undefined things in my document | 18:56 |
| rickspencer3 | referring to chapters that aren't there, glossary items that aren't there, etc... | 18:56 |
| rickspencer3 | I'll be back in a couple of hours, maybe get to work on this a bit more later tonight | 18:56 |
| godbyk | Okay. | 18:57 |
| godbyk | Yeah, the Makefile will complain about the glossary and index stuff. | 18:57 |
| * ubuntujenkins attempts to build new packages for the ppa, and this time they are from the most up to date as they can be | 19:07 | |
| * ubuntujenkins looks into how to make a download progress bar for the manual program | 19:12 | |
| dutchie | ubuntujenkins: rickspencer3 was very pleased to have got a download bar of some description into quidgets iirc | 19:13 |
| ubuntujenkins | ooo that might be good make my life easy. Quickly has helped me learn allot. | 19:13 |
| ubuntujenkins | I will ask rick later and try and understand how quickshot reads the dictionary file. I like this revision break | 19:14 |
| * ubuntujenkins thinks godbyk is right the more you think about a "simple" program the more complex it actually is. | 19:27 | |
| godbyk | You could've just stopped with 'ubuntujenkins thinks godbyk is right'. ;-) | 19:29 |
| ubuntujenkins | lol | 19:29 |
| * ubuntujenkins is building latex packages which are very up to date, I updated the latex source my self | 20:05 | |
| ubuntujenkins | soo much easier this time than last | 20:06 |
| ubuntujenkins | dutchie: do you have a link for that page on ppa version numbers on launchpad? | 20:22 |
| dutchie | help.lp.net somewhere | 20:22 |
| dutchie | https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/BuildingASourcePackage#versioning | 20:23 |
| ubuntujenkins | thnaks dutchie | 20:23 |
| c7p | hello, is there anything new about the licenses and the release of traslated versions ? | 20:34 |
| shrini | team | 20:52 |
| shrini | got a doubt on translating in LP | 20:52 |
| shrini | anybody there" | 20:52 |
| shrini | ? | 20:52 |
| ubuntujenkins | I am here shrini | 20:53 |
| shrini | ubuntujenkins: haiu | 20:53 |
| shrini | after long time, coming here | 20:53 |
| shrini | :-) | 20:53 |
| shrini | what to do with the "developer note to translator" | 20:54 |
| shrini | need to add that too in the translation? | 20:54 |
| shrini | type: paragraph{#2} | 20:54 |
| shrini | type: document | 20:54 |
| shrini | type: itemize | 20:54 |
| shrini | ? | 20:54 |
| ubuntujenkins | is that all of it? if not can you paste bin the whole thing please | 20:55 |
| shrini | there are many | 20:56 |
| shrini | on every english text, | 20:56 |
| shrini | i see a note like this | 20:56 |
| ubuntujenkins | oo in the po file? | 20:56 |
| shrini | do we need to translate that? | 20:56 |
| shrini | ya | 20:56 |
| ubuntujenkins | now this makes sense, let me just read one so i get it ccorrect | 20:57 |
| ubuntujenkins | no all you translate is the english between the " " | 20:58 |
| shrini | ohoh | 20:58 |
| shrini | okey | 20:58 |
| shrini | thats great | 20:58 |
| shrini | we finished writing in paper | 20:59 |
| shrini | and typed in openoffice | 20:59 |
| ubuntujenkins | yey \o/ | 20:59 |
| shrini | now copy-paste in LP | 20:59 |
| shrini | :-) | 20:59 |
| * ubuntujenkins has had to ask for the manual ppa size to be increased | 21:01 | |
| ubuntujenkins | ok I have built the packages locally how do I install all of the packages in a folder "dpkg -i *.deb" doesn't work as far as I can tell | 21:21 |
| ubuntujenkins | are "sudo dpkg -i $(ls *.deb)" works | 21:31 |
| * ubuntujenkins thinks that keeping the packages update is now easy | 22:00 | |
| ubuntujenkins | flan | 22:30 |
| ubuntujenkins | ping | 22:30 |
| ubuntujenkins | flan: I don't know if you will be able to help but if you can when you have a spare moment tomorrow and I am on irc and I am awake. I am having a problem with a patch applying when building a latex-bin package, not sure if you will know but you said that you had done some debian patch applying stuff | 22:44 |
| ubuntujenkins | night all | 22:45 |
| semioticrobotic | hiya friends ... what's new? haven't seen much action on the blueprint for lucid-e2 (actually, it's been marked superseded?) what's our plan of attack? | 23:08 |
| rickspencer3 | godbyk hey, I can't quite see how to set up the glossary | 23:25 |
| rickspencer3 | can you give me a quick pointer? | 23:25 |
| godbyk | rickspencer3: sure. Look at the file frontmatter/glossary-entries.tex from the ubuntu manual project. | 23:26 |
| rickspencer3 | godbyk nm, just found frontmatter/glossaryentries | 23:26 |
| godbyk | there ya go. | 23:26 |
| godbyk | so you add the entries there. | 23:27 |
| godbyk | then, in your text, you can write \gls{keyword}. | 23:27 |
| rickspencer3 | sweet! | 23:31 |
| rickspencer3 | I just had my first build sans errors of the developer manual | 23:31 |
| rickspencer3 | I can now build a crappily written prologue into a pdf! | 23:32 |
| godbyk | lol | 23:32 |
| rickspencer3 | thanks for your help godbyk | 23:35 |
| godbyk | no problem. | 23:37 |
| godbyk | have you looked at the style guide? it may come in handy. | 23:37 |
| godbyk | Hopefully we'll get time to update it soon. | 23:37 |
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