[00:05] G'night all. Until tomorrow. [00:21] godbyk, ah, so I screwed this up a bit ... I don';t think xelatex was installed to the right place, and I scipped the "make the sym links step" [00:22] rickspencer3: everyone does. [00:23] there's a fix, though [00:23] did you use the default paths? [00:23] yeah, I just hit "do it" [00:23] okay [00:24] type 'sudo apt-get install perl-tk' [00:24] I guess I just need to know where there were put, and drop sym links in /bin/bash and such? [00:24] then 'sudo /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/scripts/texlive/tlmgr --gui' [00:24] ok [00:24] even better.. there's an option in the gui to do it for you. [00:25] let me know when you've got the gui up. [00:25] (or if you hit snags before then) [00:26] hmmm [00:26] lots of snags [00:26] rick@rick-desktop:~/Projects/developer-manual$ sudo /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/scripts/texlive/tlmgrgui/tlmgrgui.pl [00:26] Can't locate TeXLive/Splashscreen.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/scripts/texlive/tlmgrgui/tlmgrgui.pl line 17. [00:26] BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/scripts/texlive/tlmgrgui/tlmgrgui.pl line 17. [00:28] it should be at /usr/local/texlive/2009/tlpkg/TeXLive/Splashscreen.pm [00:28] maybe go into that directory and run ./tlmgr --gui from there. [00:29] there should definitely be an easier way. :) [00:29] one moment [00:29] lemme see if the command-line version has an option for it [00:30] Try: "sudo tlmgr path add" [00:31] Try: "sudo tlmgr option path add" [00:31] (the latter) [00:32] right [00:32] actually, I take it back. [00:32] so just add /bin/bash/ ? [00:32] oops, ok [00:32] I think it is just 'sudo tlmgr path add' [00:32] * rickspencer3 waits [00:32] no 'option'. (the man page is difficult to read.) [00:32] what happens if you run 'sudo tlmgr path add'? [00:33] rick@rick-desktop:/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/scripts/texlive$ sudo ./tlmgr.pl path add [00:33] Can't locate TeXLive/TLConfig.pm in @INC (@INC contains: ./../../texmf/scripts/texlive ./../../tlpkg /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at ./tlmgr.pl line 78. [00:33] BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at ./tlmgr.pl line 78. [00:35] okay, "cd /usr/local/texlive/2009/tlpkg/TeXLive/" [00:35] then "sudo /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/scripts/texlive/tlmgr.pl path add" [00:40] godbyk, ok, I had to tweak that slightly to run [00:40] Hi everyone I'm back [00:40] no wait [00:40] oops [00:40] what'd you have to tweak? [00:40] yeah, I did [00:40] I add to, essentially cd /usr/local/texlive/2009/tlpkg/ [00:41] oops [00:41] well, it ran, but with a different error :/ [00:42] rick@rick-desktop:/usr/local/texlive/2009/tlpkg/TeXLive$ sudo /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/scripts/texlive/tlmgr.pl path add [00:42] Can't locate TeXLive/TLConfig.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/scripts/texlive/../../texmf/scripts/texlive /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/scripts/texlive/../../tlpkg /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/scripts/texlive/tlmgr.pl line 78. [00:42] BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/scripts/texlive/tlmgr.pl line 78. [00:42] rick@rick-desktop:/usr/local/texlive/2009/tlpkg/TeXLive$ ls [00:42] Splashscreen.pm TLConfig.pm TLMedia.pm TLPDB.pm TLPostActions.pm TLTREE.pm TLWinGoo.pm waitVariableX.pm [00:42] TeXCatalogue.pm TLDownload.pm TLPaper.pm TLPOBJ.pm TLPSRC.pm TLUtils.pm trans.pl [00:43] rick@rick-desktop:/usr/local/texlive/2009/tlpkg$ sudo /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/scripts/texlive/tlmgr.pl path add [00:43] Can't exec "kpsewhich": No such file or directory at /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/scripts/texlive/tlmgr.pl line 315. [00:43] Use of uninitialized value $texmfsysvar in scalar chomp at /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/scripts/texlive/tlmgr.pl line 315. [00:43] Use of uninitialized value $texmfsysvar in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/scripts/texlive/tlmgr.pl line 317. [00:43] Can't exec "kpsewhich": No such file or directory at /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/scripts/texlive/tlmgr.pl line 4287. [00:43] Use of uninitialized value $TEXMFCONFIG in scalar chomp at /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/scripts/texlive/tlmgr.pl line 4287. [00:43] Use of uninitialized value $TEXMFCONFIG in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/scripts/texlive/tlmgr.pl line 4288. [00:43] cannot setup TLMedia in /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/scripts/texlive/../.. at /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/scripts/texlive/tlmgr.pl line 4074. [00:45] maybe cd .. and run tlmgr again? [00:45] (since it has the TeXLive path baked in) [00:45] I'm not sure. [00:46] otherwise, you can run the install script again and select that option this time. [00:46] It *should* detect that you've installed already and not download everything again. [00:46] hmmm [00:46] it concerns me that it's not functioning now though [00:47] let me poke at it a bit [00:49] 'kay. [00:49] see what happens when you don't follow the instructions closely? :) [00:49] (there are quite a lot of symlinks that it creates, so it's best to have it do it for you.) [00:49] (and if you have suggestions on how I can make those instructions more clear, let me know!) [00:53] godbyk, yeah, I screwed it up [00:53] if I rerun the installer, which directors should I specify? [00:54] rickspencer3: just accept the defaults and you should be okay. [00:54] screw it, I'm rerunning the installer [00:54] godbyk, so if it says this: [00:54] New value for binary directory [/usr/local/bin]: [00:55] what do I put? [00:55] you can accept the defaults, typically. [00:55] just hit enter? [00:55] you should have /usr/local/bin in your PATH environment variable. [00:55] yeah. [00:55] brb [00:56] fudge, it's redownloading everything I guess [00:56] good time to take a break [06:45] Maybe the ppa would have been a better idea. [10:00] This is not strictly a manual related link. But i did think it an absolute work of genius. So I will share anyway. [10:00] http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2010/06/02/the_genius_of_the_lego_printer/ [15:17] for anyone who is interested, maverick alpha 1 is out! [16:45] * humphreybc-mini is on his little wee netbook [16:46] how exciting [16:46] very- [16:46] I found netbook edition to be shit [16:46] so i [16:46] dunno why you got a mini 9 when you could have got a 10v [16:46] so im running gnome instead [16:46] because we cant get the 10s with an SSD [16:47] coz dell NZ suck [16:47] oh [16:48] s/dell // [16:48] :P [16:49] lol [16:49] ubuntu, with compiz, runs fairly well [16:49] whatever window manager UNE uses is terrible though [16:49] maximus [16:50] unity is nice, but it crashes whenever I try to add something to the dock [16:50] otherwise i [16:50] otherwise i'd be using that [16:50] the enter key is where apostrophe should be [16:53] the ambiance them actually looks half decent on this for some reason though [16:53] I'm actually using it as default :O [16:53] i like the ambience theme [16:54] stoked that compiz works [17:58] godbyk hi [17:58] so make runs now [17:58] which is good [17:58] but I get hundreds of errors like this: [17:58] ! \textfont 0 is undefined (character u). [17:58] \Url@FormatString ...\Url@String \UrlRight \m@th $ [17:58] [17:58] l.102 \url{http://www.ubuntu-manual.org/} [17:58] [17:58] ? [17:58] and then a blank pdf is created [18:11] rickspencer3: did you run the pkgs/install-pkgs.sh script? [18:11] yeah [18:11] okay. [18:11] I think [18:11] :/ [18:11] Can you paste the .log file for me? [18:12] it was yesterday ... and I remember looking at it [18:12] main.log? [18:13] yeah [18:14] godbyk: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/444156/ [18:17] rickspencer3: ah, it's complaining because you're missing the graphics/advanced.pdf and graphics/warning.pdf files. [18:17] you can copy those from the ubuntu-manual repository. [18:17] can do [18:18] You also need to make sure you have the Linux Libertine OpenType fonts installed. [18:18] I think that the ttf-linux-libertine package provides them. [18:18] If not, you can get them from SourceForge. (The link is on the last page of the Ubuntu manual [in the colophon].) [18:19] Same with Linux Biolinum. It comes from the same SF site. Otherwise ttf-linux-biolinum, I think. [18:19] And you need DejaVu Sans Mono. [18:20] dang [18:20] Those are the big problems I see. We'll see what other problems exist after you've cleared those up. :) [18:20] hmm [18:21] I could apt-get install ttf-linux-libertine [18:21] but not ttf-linux-biolinum [18:21] and don't know where to get DejaVu Sand Mono [18:21] so, source forge it is [18:22] SF will get you the latest versions of Linux Libertine and Linux Biolinum. [18:23] Linux Biolinum is a new font and is quite preliminary, so it may not be packaged yet. [18:23] DejaVu Sans Mono is available in one of the ttf-dejavu* packages. (Just install 'em all.) [18:42] howdy all, did i miss much, irc is too much of a revision distraction [18:43] * ubuntujenkins is excited that he has done"engineering management: Finance, Law and Quality" ! [18:44] godbyk I'm confused, where exactly do I find the SF links? [18:45] rick are you still trying to install latex? [18:48] ubuntujenkins, no, fonts and such [18:48] I am wondering if I didn't use su for ./install.sh [18:48] so I'm trying that again [18:49] ouch it has taken a while to do it all [18:50] rickspencer3: I think you didn't use the install-pkgs.sh script. [18:50] godbyk I think I used it, but without sudo [18:50] so I'm running it with sudo, and it says it's installing stuff [18:50] rickspencer3: But if you open the PDF of Getting Started with Ubuntu 10.04, go to the very last page, it'll give you the links to the fonts. [18:50] You shouldn't have to run it with sudo -- it'll use sudo internally. (It'll ask for your password if it needs it). [18:55] well, I ran it with sudo and it worked [18:55] so now it looks like I just need to set up the glossary and stuff like that [18:55] thanks godbyk! [18:56] I have a main.pdf :) [18:56] cool [18:56] any more error messages? [18:56] yeah, but there were due to undefined things in my document [18:56] referring to chapters that aren't there, glossary items that aren't there, etc... [18:56] I'll be back in a couple of hours, maybe get to work on this a bit more later tonight [18:57] Okay. [18:57] Yeah, the Makefile will complain about the glossary and index stuff. [19:07] * ubuntujenkins attempts to build new packages for the ppa, and this time they are from the most up to date as they can be [19:12] * ubuntujenkins looks into how to make a download progress bar for the manual program [19:13] ubuntujenkins: rickspencer3 was very pleased to have got a download bar of some description into quidgets iirc [19:13] ooo that might be good make my life easy. Quickly has helped me learn allot. [19:14] I will ask rick later and try and understand how quickshot reads the dictionary file. I like this revision break [19:27] * ubuntujenkins thinks godbyk is right the more you think about a "simple" program the more complex it actually is. [19:29] You could've just stopped with 'ubuntujenkins thinks godbyk is right'. ;-) [19:29] lol [20:05] * ubuntujenkins is building latex packages which are very up to date, I updated the latex source my self [20:06] soo much easier this time than last [20:22] dutchie: do you have a link for that page on ppa version numbers on launchpad? [20:22] help.lp.net somewhere [20:23] https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/BuildingASourcePackage#versioning [20:23] thnaks dutchie [20:34] hello, is there anything new about the licenses and the release of traslated versions ? [20:52] team [20:52] got a doubt on translating in LP [20:52] anybody there" [20:52] ? [20:53] I am here shrini [20:53] ubuntujenkins: haiu [20:53] after long time, coming here [20:53] :-) [20:54] what to do with the "developer note to translator" [20:54] need to add that too in the translation? [20:54] type: paragraph{#2} [20:54] type: document [20:54] type: itemize [20:54] ? [20:55] is that all of it? if not can you paste bin the whole thing please [20:56] there are many [20:56] on every english text, [20:56] i see a note like this [20:56] oo in the po file? [20:56] do we need to translate that? [20:56] ya [20:57] now this makes sense, let me just read one so i get it ccorrect [20:58] no all you translate is the english between the " " [20:58] ohoh [20:58] okey [20:58] thats great [20:59] we finished writing in paper [20:59] and typed in openoffice [20:59] yey \o/ [20:59] now copy-paste in LP [20:59] :-) [21:01] * ubuntujenkins has had to ask for the manual ppa size to be increased [21:21] ok I have built the packages locally how do I install all of the packages in a folder "dpkg -i *.deb" doesn't work as far as I can tell [21:31] are "sudo dpkg -i $(ls *.deb)" works [22:00] * ubuntujenkins thinks that keeping the packages update is now easy [22:30] flan [22:30] ping [22:44] flan: I don't know if you will be able to help but if you can when you have a spare moment tomorrow and I am on irc and I am awake. I am having a problem with a patch applying when building a latex-bin package, not sure if you will know but you said that you had done some debian patch applying stuff [22:45] night all [23:08] hiya friends ... what's new? haven't seen much action on the blueprint for lucid-e2 (actually, it's been marked superseded?) what's our plan of attack? [23:25] godbyk hey, I can't quite see how to set up the glossary [23:25] can you give me a quick pointer? [23:26] rickspencer3: sure. Look at the file frontmatter/glossary-entries.tex from the ubuntu manual project. [23:26] godbyk nm, just found frontmatter/glossaryentries [23:26] there ya go. [23:27] so you add the entries there. [23:27] then, in your text, you can write \gls{keyword}. [23:31] sweet! [23:31] I just had my first build sans errors of the developer manual [23:32] I can now build a crappily written prologue into a pdf! [23:32] lol [23:35] thanks for your help godbyk [23:37] no problem. [23:37] have you looked at the style guide? it may come in handy. [23:37] Hopefully we'll get time to update it soon.