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asac!test00:37
ubot4hrm?00:37
asackk00:37
BUGabundopong00:37
asacheh. thanks!00:37
BUGabundonp00:37
sebnerasac: test passed?! :P00:41
asacmy unit tests are still running ;)00:42
asacnot sure if there is a hang or if my CPU needs an upgrade ;)00:42
asacbut they take ages :-P00:42
sebnerasac: hmm, I think the chances are higher that your inet laggs than your IRC client froze :P00:44
asaclol00:53
asactrue00:53
gnomefreakfta: are you around? there was an X bug that you uploaded a patch to the bug work around for it was to use xorg edgers PPA02:09
gnomefreaki know its kind of general but i dont recall much about it02:09
BUGabundo(2010-06-03 03:29:10) yath: yeah, the android sessions from I/O are online03:29
BUGabundo(2010-06-03 03:29:11) yath: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=316B437F0CB82A6803:29
BUGabundofta: ^^^^^^^^^^03:29
LLStarksyo micahg. is 3.6.4 going to be webm enabled? if not, is the team allowed to used webm-enabled builds for the backporting?05:54
micahgLLStarks: I don't know if they backported that05:54
micahgLLStarks: they're still working on getting it in trunk, probably for 4.005:55
LLStarkswhy is intrepid the odd man out?05:56
micahgLLStarks: ?05:57
LLStarksi know its not supported05:57
LLStarksbut to support hardy and jaunty feels weird05:57
LLStarkslts scheduling makes it stupid05:57
micahgLLStarks: normal process, in 5 months, jaunty will be EOL05:57
micahgthen hardy and karmic go EOL 6 months later and I can start using the Lucid tools :)05:58
LLStarkslucid tools?05:59
micahgLLStarks: debhelper 7 and mozilla-devscripts 0.22 :)05:59
LLStarksnot backwards compat?06:00
micahgLLStarks: the newer features06:00
LLStarkssuch as?06:00
micahgdebhelper 7 made for much shorter rules scripts06:00
LLStarksah06:01
LLStarksi'm a bit confused on how the lucid firefox+xulrunner setup will be backported to older ubuntu releases. that work took months to perfect. how will the transition work?06:02
micahgLLStarks: -security updates06:02
micahgand a week of testing06:02
LLStarksi know that much, but how much is being changed under the hood to allow this?06:02
LLStarksafaik, xul and firefox used to be joined at the hip in older releases.06:03
micahgLLStarks: well, Firefox and xulrunner aren't changing, but we have to work on a lot of other stuff06:03
micahgLLStarks: we're just using the lucid firefox and xulrunner is like it always was06:04
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dpmhi all, does anyone know which package provides the functionality where the "Install missing plugins..." option is shown in FF?12:04
chrisccoulsondpm - ubufox12:11
dpmthanks chrisccoulson. Do you happen to know if that particular string ("Install missing plugins...") actually comes from ubufox or from somewhere else? I'm trying to see how it can be localized, and I cannot find it in http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/maverick/ubufox/maverick/files/head%3A/locale/12:14
chrisccoulsondpm - the string actually comes from firefox it seems12:17
chrisccoulsonbrowser/locales/en-US/chrome/browser/browser.properties12:17
chrisccoulsonso, i was wrong ;)12:17
dpmchrisccoulson, ah, thanks, yes, I found it there too -> https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/firefox/+pots/firefox-3.6/ca/+translate?batch=10&show=all&search=missing12:19
ftagnomefreak, hi, what about my patches?13:05
ftafyi, some of the umd uploads have been rejected this morning, hence the gaps in the dashboard: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/ppa-dashboard/ubuntu-mozilla-daily--ppa.html => bug 58906813:08
ubot4Launchpad bug 589068 in soyuz "Upload rejected with "unsupported operand type(s) for -: 'datetime.datetime' and 'NoneType'" (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58906813:08
ftachrisccoulson, ^^13:09
ftabtw, lots of red there :P13:09
gnomefreakfta: i was thinking of the wrong bug13:10
ftai did some fixes/workarounds for the gtk rgba bugs but in maverick only13:11
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gnomefreakAnyone know if there is a gnome-shell channel?13:17
* gnomefreak cant log into gnome bug tracker :( not sure what they are using as user name (the email address,real name, email address without the @bleh.com)13:34
gnomefreakgo figure i finally get logged into gnome bugzilla nd i dont know how to report a bug, its simular to Mozilla's but damn14:06
* gnomefreak be back14:06
* gnomefreak thinks i know what i did14:13
gnomefreakor not14:15
nxvlchrisccoulson: any ETA for the FF rollout?16:20
ftamicahg, [14:10] <fta> fyi, some of the umd uploads have been rejected this morning, hence the gaps in the dashboard: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/ppa-dashboard/ubuntu-mozilla-daily--ppa.html => bug 58906817:57
ubot4Launchpad bug 589068 in soyuz "Upload rejected with "unsupported operand type(s) for -: 'datetime.datetime' and 'NoneType'" (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58906817:57
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micahgfta: thanks for the update earlier21:01
chrisccoulsonmicahg - i just tried a fedora live CD to see how firefox performs21:23
chrisccoulsonit is quite a lot more responsive in fedora, even running from a live CD21:23
micahgchrisccoulson: ugh, not good, can you check about:buildconfig to comapre to our build?21:24
chrisccoulsonmicahg - i will in a bit, i'm back in ubuntu now21:25
micahgchrisccoulson: Virtualbox :)21:25
micahgchrisccoulson: although I can do that too, but let's focus on that after we finish the backports21:26
chrisccoulsonmicahg - fedora live CD seems to suck in a VM for some reason21:26
chrisccoulsonso i tried it on real hardware instead21:26
micahgchrisccoulson: ah, ok, I think I saw soemthing in the Vbox changelog for 3.2.2 about that21:26
gnomefreakdo either of you know where upstream packages use for profile? is it in the .bz*21:26
micahggnomefreak: what do you mean?21:27
gnomefreakmicahg: upstream firefox download+unpack cd into to run it. where would it look for an outside profile in the unpacked dir?21:27
micahggnomefreak: ~/.mozilla/firefox ?21:28
gnomefreakso it uses the dir we have already or does it make its own in the unpacked dir.21:29
micahggnomefreak: start with -P and you'll see the profiles it finds :)21:29
* gnomefreak can do that. :)21:29
gnomefreakby the way that extension to import/export tb filters is useless as hell21:30
micahggnomefreak: yeah, it's dependent on the same dir structure in teh new profile, I discovered that at UDS21:30
* micahg forgot to file a bug21:30
gnomefreakcool thanks21:31
micahggnomefreak: if you file a bug, feel free to subscribe me21:32
gnomefreakmicahg: using it is good isnt it?21:33
micahggnomefreak: ?21:33
gnomefreakmicahg: file a bug on the profile topic above?21:33
micahggnomefreak: no, about the import/export filter (sorry, just realized it was an addon)21:34
gnomefreakoh that. even the author says it  is worthless (for the most part)21:34
gnomefreakit says it on the addon page21:34
micahggnomefreak: ah, I should read more carefully21:35
* gnomefreak think i found out the root of my TB bugs21:37
micahggnomefreak: ah, please tell21:38
gnomefreakprofile21:38
gnomefreakjust dont understand why renaming a dir and start with a clean one didnt fix it21:38
gnomefreaki should know more in a few days (maybe by monday21:39
micahggnomefreak: k21:40
gnomefreak!info libstdc++5 karmic21:46
ubot4gnomefreak: Package libstdc++5 does not exist in karmic21:46
gnomefreak!info libstdc++6 karmic21:47
ubot4gnomefreak: libstdc++6 (source: gcc-4.4): The GNU Standard C++ Library v3. In component main, is required. Version 4.4.1-4ubuntu9 (karmic), package size 338 kB, installed size 1192 kB21:47
micahggnomefreak: was removed21:47
gnomefreakmicahg: i thought so just wanted to make sure21:47
micahggnomefreak: there's a bug report with people screaming21:47
gnomefreakthere is a few of them :) but if it is the one i just replied to than its known :) that was a major thing with update 0.8->0.921:53
gnomefreakIIRC upstream used diff version as we did21:54
micahgbug 43109121:54
ubot4Launchpad bug 431091 in ia32-libs (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "libstdc++5 removal breaks non-ubuntu applications (affects: 49) (dups: 2)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43109121:55
gnomefreakia32-libs has been a problem for a long time hasnt it?21:56
micahggnomefreak: yes, but it should be going away in maverick with multiarch21:57
gnomefreakwe can only hope ;)21:57
gnomefreakbe back need a smoke than try to figure out how to get sound working in gnome-shell :(21:57
gnomefreakok so how do you fix something that you cant find22:01
micahggnomefreak: what do you mean?22:02
gnomefreakin gnome-shell there is no way to add things to the panel AFAICT so i cant adjust the sound and no where in the menu does it give you any settings22:03
gnomefreaki filed 2 bugs with gnome bug tracker on gnome-shell both wishlists and they were closed within 30 minutes as "not going to happen" 1 due to major overhaul for gnome3 and the other because they cant fix all wishlist bugs22:05
ftamultiarch in maverick :) nice dream22:06
gnomefreakthink i found it but why in FUSA22:06
ftamicahg, can we drop ff3.5 from umd? it's red and dead anyway22:06
ftaalso, what about tb3.1?22:07
micahgfta: yes, but not xul191, also please drop tb3.022:07
micahgfta: no, I need to fix that22:07
gnomefreakgnomefreak: hi22:07
gnomefreakdamnit can someone do that for me22:07
micahggnomefreak: hi :)22:07
gnomefreakthis sucks22:08
micahgfta: after hardy/jaunty/karmic backports are done, I want to fix tb31 dailies22:08
ftamicahg, ok22:08
gnomefreakplease try again22:08
micahgand get tb32 going22:08
micahggnomefreak: hi :)22:08
gnomefreakgrrrrrr22:09
gnomefreakthanks22:09
BUGabundofta: *zero* action on my corruption bug :(22:09
gnomefreaktb32? what about 3.122:09
BUGabundohappening on two machines22:09
micahggnomefreak: 3.1 will merge into tb.head soon, but I hope to fix it22:09
gnomefreakok sound works when i test it but doesnt work in apps22:09
BUGabundothere goes the benefit of dailies for catching regretions22:09
gnomefreakmicahg: ok cool22:09
* gnomefreak using thunderbird daily i saw regressions (just not lately)22:10
ftamicahg, i can't delete, lp timeouts22:10
micahgfta: k22:11
gnomefreakcrimsun: was pulseaudio and gnome-shell expected to work together?22:12
BUGabundoas crimsun been online? need to bug him about my MUTE bug. not fixed with the new version22:13
gnomefreakBUGabundo: its a known bug i filed it already and so have others22:14
gnomefreakbeing muted on startup?22:14
BUGabundoyes22:14
BUGabundobut its HW specific22:14
* micahg has had that for a few releases22:14
micahgnow it's only the speaker volume22:14
gnomefreakBUGabundo: no its not22:14
micahgbefore it was the master channel22:15
micahgin Lucid that is22:15
* gnomefreak lost terack of that bug but he did mark one as a dup of it 22:15
BUGabundognomefreak: I can get the channel log when crimsun explained it :)22:15
ftaBUGabundo, when did your bug started?22:16
BUGabundohumm not sure22:16
gnomefreakok system test == sound testing the volume/speaker bump/bark works but irssi tb do not giv eme any sound22:16
BUGabundosome weeks after maverick went open22:16
gnomefreaki saw it in Lucid22:16
BUGabundofta: we were here speacking about your frags22:16
gnomefreakbefore final release and was like that22:17
ftaBUGabundo, a few days ago, i've added XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 in the wrapper22:17
ftaBUGabundo, could you try without it?22:17
BUGabundoerkk22:17
BUGabundoI got confused22:17
BUGabundoare you speaking of ch corruptoin?22:17
BUGabundoor audio ?22:17
BUGabundoLOL22:17
BUGabundoI'm blond .... be nice to me22:17
gnomefreakBUGabundo: xlib is chromium22:18
gnomefreakIf i had to guess22:18
ftayep22:18
BUGabundoyeah could be that22:18
BUGabundomay 23 was when we spoke to crimsun22:18
BUGabundo(2010-05-23 21:13:47) crimsun: the aim is to reduce/eliminate the number of quirks that need to go into the init db, hence the objective is to have everything be "Unknown"22:19
BUGabundognomefreak: ^^^^^^^22:19
BUGabundo(2010-05-23 21:10:40) crimsun: BUGabundo: init is what we should be using instead of 'restore'22:19
BUGabundook, now back to Ch bug22:19
micahgBUGabundo: he just posted to the -devel list about that22:19
BUGabundofta: my chr bug started Monday or Tuesday22:19
BUGabundoORLY? lOL22:20
BUGabundofta: and on Wednesday my debian machine started too22:20
micahgBUGabundo: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2010-June/030834.html22:20
BUGabundocool22:21
BUGabundoso its being worked on22:21
BUGabundonot fixed yet22:21
BUGabundothanks micahg22:21
BUGabundoI *really* should try to read devel ml :(((22:21
gnomefreakseems my bug was fixed here at least22:21
BUGabundobut 3323 unread emails scrares me22:21
BUGabundognomefreak: hence why I said HW specific22:21
gnomefreakBUGabundo: i have ~5000 just in upstream bugs22:21
BUGabundoahaha22:22
BUGabundoI got 80GBs of unread email22:22
gnomefreakafter 3 weeks yuo can imagine why im here this late in the day22:22
* micahg has plenty of unread mail as well (>8k unread LP bugs)22:23
BUGabundomew22:23
gnomefreakmicahg: im around where you are on unread22:28
* gnomefreak just tring to add filters im ~1/2 done i hope22:28
micahggnomefreak: I filter by package in LP and by upstream for upstream bugs22:29
ftaBUGabundo, did you try?22:31
* BUGabundo is confused22:31
BUGabundotry what?22:31
gnomefreakmicahg: i am filtering everything by package by mailing list ect... i am almost done with gnomefreak @gmail than on to ubuntu.ase@... << main ubuntu mozilla bugs22:32
ftaBUGabundo, edit /usr/bin/chromium-b* and comment the line XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=122:32
BUGabundoahh22:33
BUGabundomissed that22:33
BUGabundorestarting Ch22:34
BUGabundofta: still happens22:35
ftagood22:35
BUGabundonot for me22:35
BUGabundoand why doesn't that happen on a temp-profile?22:35
ftaso it's not caused by rgba in gtk22:35
ftaBUGabundo, corrupted cache?22:36
BUGabundomaybe22:36
BUGabundowhere can I clear it, and what does it affect?22:36
BUGabundoand why did it affect two diff machines one day after the other22:36
ftaand why you but no one else?22:39
BUGabundono idea22:40
BUGabundocause not many ppl run maverick with daily ppa, and debian unstable with an Ubuntu PPA?22:40
BUGabundowhere can I clear the cache, and what does it affect?22:41
gnomefreakyay i moved everything in my gnomefreak inbox to other folders by way of filters (maybe i should check some of the emails now?22:45
gnomefreakbe back22:45
BUGabundolol22:48
BUGabundogo22:48
ddecatorhere's something odd...the daily build of prism can't be closed using the X button (at least not for me)22:53
ddecatorscratch that, only prism-google-mail22:53
micahgddecator: repeatable?22:54
ddecatormicahg: yup22:54
micahgddecator: you can file a bug or see if there's one upstream, but I don't have time to look into it right now22:54
ddecatormicahg: prism-google-calendar is fine. i'll try to look into it tonight if i can find time22:55
micahgddecator: IIRC, that app has other issues22:55
ddecatormicahg: wouldn't surprise me22:56
micahgddecator: so, if it's just one, it would be an Ubuntu issue most likely22:56
ftatry with chromium ;)22:59
BUGabundoLOL22:59
ddecatorfta: speaking of which, chromium kept having flash crash earlier and it was working (although a little buggy) in firefox ;)23:00
ftaddecator, which one? and where?23:01
ddecatorfta: chromium build "5.0.342.9 (43360) Ubuntu" and it was here: http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episodes/wed-june-2-2010-morgan-freeman23:02
ftai meant, which distro?23:02
ddecatorlucid23:02
ftacan't try. it's geolocalized23:03
ddecatorhappens on any site with flash. i may have an out of date build (not using the ppa anymore) but it was working fine before23:04
ddecatori have to head out, i'll look into the prism issue later and i can give info on chromium if i have to23:05
micahgddecator: there's an update in -proposed23:05
ddecatormicahg: for chromium or prism?23:05
micahgddecator: chromium23:05
ftathere's another one in the stable ppa23:06
ftaor in maverick23:06
ddecatormicahg: yah, i should probably update it. i was trying chromium for a while but decided to switch back to FF so i stopped using the PPA23:06
ftalucid is 2 versions behind23:06
micahgfta: I thought it was 3 versions back :)23:07
micahgand -proposed was 1 version behind23:07
ftaright, 323:07
ddecatoralright, heading out, pm if you need me, *hopefully* i can start getting active again this weekend, but i'm not sure how much studying i'll need to do. cya23:08
* gnomefreak not far behind him23:13
gnomefreaksmoke while script runs than see where i am23:13
ftabam, a new -dev a -beta of chromium just appeared. good we're tracking -stable now ;) I'll let the bot work and go to bed23:15
BUGabundoahah23:17
gnomefreakthe bot called in sick this morning23:25
gnomefreak;)23:25
BUGabundohttp://p.bugabundo.net/marginal-10523:56

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