[00:01] <IdleOne> Phillip and AmgJesus in #ubuntu
[00:02] <IdleOne> keep an eye open
[00:06] <IdleOne> he is using a shell to connect, your-server.de he knows full well what he is doing
[00:36] <IdleOne> conk seems to think I am out to get him. So maybe someone else ask him for the second time to relax with the ENTER
[00:38] <bazhang> murdoc is a well known troll. removed him.
[00:38] <IdleOne> ok
[00:38] <bazhang> he likes to hang in #freenode and say 'take it to #defocus' (even to staff)
[00:39] <IdleOne> heh
[00:43] <IdleOne> I haven't been around much the past 5 days but does it seem like the trolls are out in extra force today?
[00:44] <bazhang> seems that way. tag-teaming even
[00:44] <IdleOne> yeah
[00:51] <IdleOne> ^^ tested instructions there with nina_ and it works!
[00:51] <IdleOne> let's update that factoid because the current one leaves some packages
[00:59] <elky> is there a IRCCer about?
[01:00] <Pici> elky: hmmm?
[01:01] <Pici> !puregnome
[01:02] <Pici> !no puregnome is <reply> If you want to remove all !KDE packages, go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureGnome
[01:03] <IdleOne> thank you
[01:06] <Jordan_U> Might want to watch hiexpo in #ubuntu
[01:20] <Jordan_U> I'm pretty sure that he's a troll at this point.
[01:27] <Jordan_U> !staff
[01:27] <marienz> hmm?
[01:28] <Jordan_U> marienz: hiexpo is trolling #ubuntu
[01:28] <marienz> you want the ubuntu ops then, right?
[01:28] <Jordan_U> Yes, sorry.
[01:29] <marienz> no problem
[01:32] <Jordan_U> What is the best way to get the ops attention? I don't want to give hiexpo the gratification of a confrontation (which is what he is asking for) by using !ops in #ubuntu.
[01:33] <marienz> he seems to have calmed down already. I'd also expect talking in here to do the trick, but you really need to ask them, not me
[01:45] <funkyHat> @mark #ubuntu-offtopic blendmaster1024 (PigeonCluster) warned him about making homophobic comments, he said ok
[02:07] <IdleOne> Jordan_U: you can also /msg ubottu !ops | nick I believe
[02:08] <tsimpson> no, you can't
[02:08] <IdleOne> ok you can't
[02:08] <tsimpson> but you could just  call ops in here :)
[02:08] <IdleOne> true
[02:08] <tsimpson> or rather ops-#ubuntu
[02:44] <xy> anyone has used habak ? i'm trying to get "multi-layered backgrounds" to work, i.e. a collation of 3 images, but looks like, it only draws 1 layer. :\ also i can't get -mc to work :( please help
[02:44] <IdleOne> xy: try asking in #ubuntu please this is not a support channel
[02:45] <tsimpson> IdleOne: ban-forward
[02:45] <xy> IdleOne: oops, i joined #ubuntu, i wonder, how'd i came here.
[02:45] <IdleOne> ahhh
[02:46] <IdleOne> xy: seems you were sent here because you got banned from #ubuntu
[02:46] <xy> looks like there's a channel forwarding.
[02:46] <xy> IdleOne: may i ask the reason ?
[02:47] <IdleOne> I am looking, gimme one minute please
[02:47] <xy> sure, take your time. :)
[02:48] <IdleOne> xy: I don't see a reason why you got banned
[02:48] <IdleOne> tsimpson: ?
[02:49] <tsimpson> I can't see anything either, let me do some digging
[02:49] <xy> *shrugs*
[02:53] <xy> from what i can recall, i would 've been switched to Guest???? a few hours ago, after i reconfigured my znc hosted @ shellium, without the "autoidentify to nickserv" module,  because of some intermittent problems with the shellium server and wrong meta information at motd screen, but laters i fixed that.
[02:54] <tsimpson> this was back in March, I'm doubting it's actually a ban on "you" as such
[02:55] <IdleOne> it is a ban on the nick
[02:55] <IdleOne> xy is registered so
[02:55] <xy> oh then, may i request the unban, i'm not sure of it, either. I don't get banned normally though :)
[02:56] <xy> perhaps, i registered this nick, just a few days earlier, prolly 1 week :)
[02:56] <IdleOne> a year
[02:57] <tsimpson> xy: you can join #ubuntu now, sorry about that
[02:57] <xy> IdleOne: that's when i registered my account :) not this nick
[02:57] <xy> tsimpson: sure, no problem, thanks for the resolution.
[02:58] <tsimpson> ikonia: plz to use comments :)
[02:58] <IdleOne> plz plz :)
[03:05] <meoblast001> hi
[03:06] <meoblast001> i was hanging out in #ubuntu-offtopic, and was informed i'm still technically banned
[03:06] <meoblast001> i did not know this.. what should i do?
[03:09] <IdleOne> meoblast001: who informed you?
[03:09] <meoblast001> rww
[03:10] <IdleOne> I don't see any ban set for you
[03:11] <IdleOne> meoblast001: follow the rules and you should be ok :)
[03:11] <tsimpson> wait please
[03:11] <IdleOne> ohhh
[03:11] <IdleOne> wait
[03:11] <meoblast001> waiting...
[03:12] <tsimpson> meoblast001: there was a ban, but is was removed. so you're fine to be in there
[03:12] <meoblast001> ok
[03:12] <tsimpson> or are you...
[03:12] <tsimpson> hold on :|
[03:12] <meoblast001> O_o
[03:12] <IdleOne> haha
[03:12] <tsimpson> nope, you are actually still banned
[03:12] <IdleOne> hang the cheese out there then tell the mouse not to eat it
[03:12] <meoblast001> ah, ok
[03:13] <meoblast001> ok, thanks for clearing that up
[03:13] <meoblast001> bye
[03:13] <tsimpson> you could wait here for an -offtopic op and discuss....
[03:13] <tsimpson> never mind
[03:14] <IdleOne> :/
[03:18] <tsimpson> fwiw, I set a ban on $a:meoblast001, so if he's identified to services he'll be banned
[03:19] <tsimpson> probably the best one can do with a dynamic IP and ever-changing ident
[03:20] <IdleOne> tsimpson: how old was the ban?
[03:21] <tsimpson> *!*meoblast@dynamic*.zoominternet.net
[06:00] <ZachK_> hello?
[06:03] <tonyyarusso> ZachK_: What can we do for you?
[06:03] <ZachK_> tonyyarusso: ah hello...got a question...
[06:04] <ZachK_> I'm looking to eventually become one of you...an operator..was wondering how i go about that
[06:05] <tonyyarusso> Oh geez, we totally just rewrote that process.....um
[06:05] <ZachK_> Lol
[06:06]  * tonyyarusso searches for the doc
[06:06] <ZachK_> here's my wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZachK_ incase you're curious
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> Oh yeah!  You apply on LP.
[06:07] <tonyyarusso> I swear we have a full explanation here somewhere though.
[06:07] <ZachK_> LP link?
[06:08] <tonyyarusso> Here it is - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam/OperatorRequirements
[06:09] <ZachK_> tonyyarusso: thanks..I'll look at those and then get back with you if that's ok
[06:09] <tonyyarusso> Sure thing
[06:10] <ZachK_> well the only channel i can OP in is #ubuntu-beginners-wiki as I'm the Beginners Team Wiki Lead right now so i don't think i qualify from what i'm reading
[06:11] <ZachK_> and of course my personal channel
[06:21] <tonyyarusso> It's saying you have to start on one channel and work your way up, not jump in headfirst.
[06:41] <mneptok> ZachK_: are there official Ubuntu channels where you are active?
[07:02] <ZachK_> mneptok: i usually hang around in #ubuntu
[07:02] <ZachK_> mneptok: and #ubuntu-beginners #kubuntu
[07:02] <mneptok> ZachK_: but you're not *active*
[07:02] <ZachK_> mneptok: active as in assisting people? yes i am
[07:03] <mneptok> using this nick?
[07:03] <ZachK_> always
[07:03] <ZachK_> only nick i use
[07:03] <mneptok> http://paste.debian.net/75949
[07:04] <ZachK_> yeah my internet kept cutting out...and I've been doing multiple things today not to mention the other channels im in
[07:04] <mneptok> that's your chatting history from #ubuntu for all of 2010
[07:05] <ZachK_> Yes i understand that...don't think i'm saying that I'm there every day all the time...nor am i saying that I deserve this right now...it's something that I'm trying to attain
[07:06] <mneptok> ZachK_: i don't want to seem like i'm picking on you, but IRC ops are generally chosen from very active channel members. and you're simply not active in #ubuntu. so i asked if there's another channel where you *are* active.
[07:06] <ZachK_> mneptok: well have you heard of the beginners team?
[07:07] <mneptok> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam  <---- that team?
[07:07] <ZachK_> mneptok: yes
[07:07] <ZachK_> Full member/mentor and the BT's Wiki FG lead...so any bt channels i'm usually in almost 27-7
[07:08] <ZachK_> "24-7 i mean
[07:08] <ZachK_> mneptok: I'll be back in 30 minutes...gotta run and get some dinner
[07:08] <mneptok> np
[07:08] <ZachK_> k
[08:31] <mneptok> !songbird
[08:34] <mneptok> @login
[08:36] <mneptok> ubottu: no, songbird is <reply>Songbird is a media player based on Mozilla. Official Linux builds and support ended in April, 2010. See http://blog.songbirdnest.com/2010/04/02/songbird-singing-a-new-tune for more information. Ubuntu installation instructins at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Songbird
[08:36] <mneptok> !songbird
[08:41] <jussi> ZachK_: is there something more you need from us?
[08:55] <jussi> Happy birthday mneptok!!!!
[08:56]  * mneptok does a disturbing little birthday dance
[08:59] <ZachK_> mneptok: i'm back..sorry it took me so long
[09:00] <mneptok> ZachK_: do you use Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, or ... ?
[09:01] <ZachK_> mneptok: My Linux distro of choice is Ubuntu...i'm using Vista atm though..soon to dual boot ubutnu/vista. (Vista needed for my itunes)
[09:01] <mneptok> ZachK_: i would strongly recommend adding the official channel for your Ubuntu flavor to your auto-join list. and be active there. the -beginners team is, AFAICS, not an official team.
[09:02] <mneptok> ZachK_: ops will not be selected unless the core ops team and the IRC Council have seen sustained, meaningful commitment from a candidate.
[09:03] <ZachK_> mneptok: Like I said...not something I expected nor wanted like, right now. I know that I don't have enough experience for that type of job...not to mention I'm running two, almost three different projects right now...just was something I wanted to attain in the foreseable future
[09:04] <mneptok> i'm just letting you know the requisites for candidacy.
[09:04] <mneptok> or, rather, successful candidacy.
[09:05] <ZachK_> yeah
[09:05] <mneptok> IIRC, all the recently approved new ops have been actively contributing in the core channels for years. not months.
[09:06] <ZachK_> mneptok: I totally understand...just wanted to get some info was all....
[09:06] <mneptok> not a problem
[09:07] <mneptok> asking for info is better than asking for +o ;)
[09:07] <ZachK_> Well thanks for your time....now I must go back and manage the Wiki FG....
[09:07] <ZachK_> mneptok: Yeah I agree with that..
[09:07] <mneptok> ZachK_: note that we have a no-idling policy stated in the /topic. that's why jussi /kick'ed you earlier.
[09:08] <ZachK_> Yes I caught that...just got back downstairs....
[09:08] <mneptok> jussi gets cranky when he hasn't had his juice box and a nap.
[09:08] <ZachK_> LOL
[09:08] <ZachK_> Now that's funny
[09:09] <mneptok> not really. he throws things and uses Finnostralian profanity.
[09:09] <ZachK_> Ok mneptok thanks again. Gotta head out and prepare my meeting Schedule/Topic for the Wiki.....(lovely.........)
[09:10]  * ZachK_ out
[09:13] <jussi> !maverick
[09:14] <arand> I though it should be updated with the channel, etc. ?
[09:14] <jussi> !no, maverick is <reply> Maverick Meerkat is the codename for Ubuntu 10.10, due October 2010 - Maverick is Not released and Not Stable, discussion and support in #ubuntu+1
[09:14] <jussi> ;)
[09:14] <jussi> thanks!
[09:14] <arand> cheers
[09:18]  * Tm_T tries to wake up
[10:34] <ikonia> balzac back doing his regular "bruder" troll crap
[10:43] <rocket16> Hello respected Operators.
[10:43] <ikonia> rocket16: I've forwarded you here to resolve this issue
[10:44] <rocket16> I need your help on a matter, I have been wrongly kicked off the Ubuntu support channel.
[10:44] <ikonia> rocket16: please do not advertise randomly, any channels ubuntu or not in #ubuntu, if someone needs a specific channel, please give them, but don't activly advertise channels
[10:44] <rocket16> Bazhang, are you here? Can you please help me a way out?
[10:45] <ikonia> I have first of all asked you to not do this, you argued it, I tried to explain the reasons, you argued, I have then told you not to do it, you've argued it, I've asked you to stop arguing it, you've continued to argue, so I've forwarded you here to explain the issue and resolve it
[10:45] <Tm_T> rocket16: you better talk with ikonia for now
[10:45] <ikonia> if you can please not advertise channels in #ubuntu in future, and when someone asks you then tells you to stop, don't argue it, just accept it,
[10:45] <ikonia> if you really feel stong about it, then join this channel to discuss it futher
[10:45] <rocket16> ikonia: A simple information does not matter much, does it? Also we could have simply put an end to the matter. I did not know that you are an Operator anyway.
[10:46] <ikonia> if you can accept that and abide by it, I'm happy to remove te ban
[10:46] <ikonia> rocket16: yes, information DOES matter
[10:46] <Tm_T> rocket16: if someone is an operator or not is irrelevant
[10:46] <rocket16> Tm_T: I see, ok thanks for info.
[10:46] <ikonia> rocket16: is it ok for me to post -uk advertisments, or Pici to post -usa loco advertisments no
[10:47] <rocket16> ikonia: But that was a support channel too, and those exist as a part of support as a country-specific category
[10:47] <ikonia> it can't be one rule loco channel and not for another, so if you advertise the channel, I can't stop anyone else advertising their locos
[10:47] <ikonia> rocket16: but you're advertising a channel in a support channel
[10:47] <Tm_T> rocket16: and not need to be advertised actively like you do
[10:47] <ikonia> its not a recruiting channel
[10:47] <rocket16> ikonia: I see,
[10:47] <ikonia> rocket16: if someone guy comes in looking for the indian channel, or would be better served by the indian channel, give it to him, but don't randomly seek out people to populate it in a support channel
[10:48] <rocket16> ikonia: Well, I admit my mistake, might be I had been offtopic.
[10:48] <ikonia> you where offtopic - fact
[10:48] <ikonia> rocket16: I'm more concerned that you kept arguing the point when asked and then told to stop
[10:48] <rocket16> ikonia: Ok, my apologies.
[10:48] <ikonia> but if your comfortable with the rules now, I have no issue removing the ban
[10:49] <rocket16> ikonia: Well, I did not know this rule, but I'll keep that in mind.
[10:49] <ikonia> rocket16: I told you the rule, eg: asking you to stop and then telling you to stop
[10:49] <ikonia> however, I've removed the ban, please keep in mind is someone (not just an operator) asks you to stop something, at try to respect it, it's a community channel
[10:50] <ikonia> if you have a real issue with it, join this channel and ask an operator for help
[10:50] <rocket16> ikonia: Well, but didn't I also say that we should put an end to the matter, as it might had been offtopic?
[10:50] <rocket16> ikonia: Well, thank you.
[10:50] <rocket16> Thank you ikonia and other operators
[13:04] <Pici> !no it-#ubuntu-offtopic is <reply> Vai su #ubuntu-it-chat (scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it-chat » ) per conversare in italiano. Grazie!!no it-#ubuntu-offtopic is <reply> Vai su #ubuntu-it-chat (scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it-chat » ) per conversare in italiano. Grazie!
[13:04] <Pici> !no it-#ubuntu-offtopic is <reply> Vai su #ubuntu-it-chat (scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it-chat » ) per conversare in italiano. Grazie!
[13:04] <Pici> !it-#ubuntu-offtopic is <reply> Vai su #ubuntu-it-chat (scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it-chat » ) per conversare in italiano. Grazie!
[13:04] <Pici> oops :P
[15:04] <IdleOne> hellwolf is not going to stop until you ban him.
[15:05] <IdleOne> you can put up with his semi not so great english where it might suggest language barrier but a person who claims to not know what google is but figured out the factoid syntax in 3 seconds is a troll
[15:06] <funkyHat> It would help if people didn't feed
[15:06] <IdleOne> they need a kick also
[15:08] <IdleOne> be back in a bit
[15:56] <tsimpson> Pici: do you know why !proxy was forgotten?
[15:58] <Pici> tsimpson: Because it didn't really have anything to do with proxies?
[15:59] <Pici> tsimpson: Feel free to add it again if you think it should be there.
[16:00] <tsimpson> Pici: I just didn't realise it was forgotten, so I need to update the topic of #kubuntu-proxy-users
[16:00] <Pici> tsimpson: oh, sorry. I should have checked those channels.
[16:05] <hellwolf06> what shall i do???
[16:06] <fishcooker> help
[16:06] <tsimpson> fishcooker: can we help you?
[16:07] <fishcooker> i don't know what i am doing here
[16:07] <hellwolf06> its all c0cky
[16:07] <fishcooker> what kind of cocky
[16:07] <hellwolf06> i occasionaly sent it in uubotu
[16:07] <fishcooker> LoL
[16:08] <hellwolf06> cocky is a good man
[16:08] <tsimpson> fishcooker: where did you expect to be?
[16:08] <hellwolf06> in bestbot
[16:08] <hellwolf06> ubuntu-bots
[16:09] <tsimpson> hellwolf06: I asked fishcooker
[16:09] <hellwolf06> i know
[16:09] <hellwolf06> him
[16:09] <hellwolf06> he is afraid of ops
[16:09] <tsimpson> hellwolf06: can we help you with something?
[16:09] <hellwolf06> so he wrote me to say that
[16:10] <hellwolf06> dont pay on my edition any attension
[16:10] <fishcooker> im confuse
[16:10] <fishcooker> d
[16:10] <tsimpson> hellwolf06: ok, anything else?
[16:11] <hellwolf06> i mean cocky is a good man
[16:11] <hellwolf06> i wanted to wright it to fishcoocker
[16:11] <hellwolf06> yes fishcoocker?
[16:11] <tsimpson> hellwolf06: if you have no business here, please leave
[16:12] <hellwolf06> no
[16:12] <hellwolf06> its true
[16:12] <funkyHat> hellwolf06 is probably here because he was banned from #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:12] <hellwolf06> funky hat
[16:12] <funkyHat> hellwolf06: please let tsimpson deal with fishcooker first, thankyou.
[16:13] <hellwolf06> what deal
[16:13] <hellwolf06> ok i know english bad so what
[16:13] <hellwolf06> unban me please
[16:13] <hellwolf06> =(
[16:13] <fishcooker> tsimpson have hellwolf06 banned, please :D
[16:13] <hellwolf06> ='(
[16:13] <hellwolf06> noo
[16:15] <tsimpson> fishcooker: did you try to join a channel before entering here?
[16:17] <fishcooker> !hello world
[16:17] <tsimpson> um, k
[16:18] <hellwolf06> dont ban nn me
[16:18] <hellwolf06> unbann me
[16:18] <hellwolf06> bye
[16:18] <hellwolf06> =(
[16:19] <hellwolf06> ='-(
[16:19] <hellwolf06> ="""-(
[16:20] <hellwolf06> i am sad
[16:20] <tsimpson> funkyHat: *poke*
[16:21] <hellwolf06> i will never do so
[16:21] <hellwolf06> its the first and last time
[16:22] <funkyHat> Hi
[16:23] <funkyHat> hellwolf06: are you going to stop asking silly questions which you could easily find the answer to on google or in a dictionary?
[16:27] <hellwolf06> yes
[16:27] <hellwolf06> no more angry cock suckers
[16:27] <hellwolf06> yes
[16:28] <hellwolf06> funkyhay,yes
[16:29] <funkyHat> !guidelines
[16:29] <hellwolf06> funkyhat,yes
[16:30] <hellwolf06> unban me
[16:30] <hellwolf06> please
[16:30] <tsimpson> read the link
[16:30] <hellwolf06> please
[16:31] <hellwolf06> please
[16:32] <hellwolf06> OK
[16:32] <hellwolf06> Don't flood the channel
[16:33] <hellwolf06> Ok
[16:33] <hellwolf06> unban me
[16:35] <hellwolf06> ok i will not flood and i will obey the rules
[16:37] <funkyHat> oh
[16:37] <fishcooker> why
[16:38] <funkyHat> I'm not really sure -_-
[16:38] <tsimpson> fishcooker: why are you here again?
[16:39] <fishcooker> :D
[16:39] <fishcooker> see what happen here
[16:40] <ikonia> fishcooker: what do you need from us ?
[16:41] <fishcooker> ummmm
[16:41] <tsimpson> !idle
[16:42] <fishcooker> i will be disappeared in 3 second
[16:42] <fishcooker> bye2
[16:45] <funkyHat> I guess I was thinking I should give him another chance but he's clearly just trolling so is there any point?
[16:47] <tsimpson> he doesn't seem to want to respect the rules, so...
[16:51] <mneptok> Happy, happy birthday in a hot bath. To those nice, nice nights. I remember always, always I got such a fright seeing them in my dark cupboard with my great big cake. If they were me, if they were me. And I was you, and I was you. If they were me and I was you would you have liked a present, too?
[16:51]  * mneptok prances around
[16:51] <mneptok> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40K2S0-5Xo0
[17:05]  * jrib closes tab
[17:14] <marienz> bad marienz, don't forget to deop after dealing with a spammer/troll!
[17:15]  * marienz hits self with newspaper
[17:55] <h00k> mneptok: Birthday, when was yours?
[17:56] <h00k> s/was/is/
[17:58] <mneptok> h00k: right now :)
[17:58] <Pici> eww.
[17:59] <Pici> I mean.. happy birthday!
[17:59] <h00k> mneptok: mine was yesterday, have a happy one today!
[17:59] <Pici> Happy birthday h00k!
[17:59] <Pici> topyl-i's is on the 20th
[17:59] <h00k> Pici: thanks :)
[17:59] <h00k> I've been super busy, I haven't been on here a ton :(
[18:00] <h00k> ...iPoRn is somewhat disconcerning
[18:01] <h00k> the nickname in #ubuntu, anyway
[18:02] <Pici> android: I'm surprised that nick was available.
[18:03] <android> Pici: i have had it for a while
[18:04] <Pici> android: still.
[18:04] <Tm_T> that reminds me...
[18:04] <android> I got it before it was really popular.
[18:04] <h00k> is alabd banned yet?
[18:04] <Pici> h00k: He was unbanned.
[18:04] <Pici> android: Well, the word existed before Google got their hands on it.
[18:05] <h00k> Pici: alright, just chcekin'
[18:05] <h00k> @login
[18:05] <android> Pici: true
[18:05] <h00k> @btlogin
[18:05] <jpds> Pici: And it could of been a Paranoid Android.
[18:06] <Tm_T> it's mine now!
[18:06] <android> Oh dear
[18:06] <Pici> Nicks      : Pici Pici` Picipod ZarroBoogs bnrubin talkingmuffin
[18:09] <android> Hrr, cant figure out how to copy...
[18:10] <Tm_T> android: possibly there's no sensible way
[18:11] <android> Evil jussi: 01 o1 android TheBigCheese
[18:11] <android> :D
[18:11] <mneptok> jussi's drunk again
[18:12] <android> mneptok: no...
[18:12] <mneptok> h00k: go watch that video!
[18:12] <mneptok> h00k: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40K2S0-5Xo0
[18:13]  * android eyes the jaloviina
[18:13] <mneptok> h00k: and *crank* the volume.
[18:13] <h00k> mneptok: standby, at work and on a webinar
[19:31] <funkyHat> blar
[19:32] <jpds> floo
[19:33] <funkyHat> flib
[19:35] <jpds> mneptok: ...
[19:50] <mneptok> jpds: yes?
[20:11] <Pici> !-shout
[20:11] <Pici> err.
[20:11] <knome> har
[20:12] <knome> fail. try again.
[20:33] <Pici> hrm.  It looks like a lot of links that point to ubuntu.com pages are broken with the website redesign.  I really wish that they had setup redirects for those pages.
[20:34] <charlie-tca> yup
[20:34] <charlie-tca> Lots of the old pages were taken down completely
[20:41] <Tm_T> indeed, example all those pages that explained governing in ubuntu are now bundled to one, and all related links in wiki are broken I guess
[20:47] <charlie-tca> I discovered it trying to go to the mailing list etiquette page. It is gone
[20:48] <charlie-tca> What was mailinglists/etiquette got added to mailing lists itself - http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailinglists
[20:49] <knome> hey charlie-tca :)
[20:49] <charlie-tca> Hello, knome
[22:32] <Guest44417> hey guys can someone help me get unbanned from ubuntu
[22:43] <Tm_T> Guest44417: you remember why you got banned?
[22:45] <Guest44417> uh yeah
[22:46] <Tm_T> what was it?
[22:46] <Guest44417> said noob in the channel
[22:46] <Tm_T> it's not just that, the general attitude behind those actions
[22:47] <Guest44417> ic
[22:47] <Tm_T> Guest44417: you understand that #ubuntu is support channel, and is supposed to be friendly and supportive atmosphere?
[22:47] <Tm_T> !guidelines > Guest44417
[22:48] <Guest44417> i guess
[22:48] <Tm_T> you guess?
[22:48] <Guest44417> well guess so
[22:49] <Tm_T> guessing won't help now (:
[22:49] <Guest44417> um yes?
[22:49] <Tm_T> Guest44417: you understand that #ubuntu is support channel, and is supposed to be friendly and supportive atmosphere?
[22:49] <Guest44417> um yes?
[22:50] <Tm_T> good, you have read those guidelines ubottu msg'd you?
[22:51] <Guest44417> yeah just did
[22:51] <Tm_T> good
[22:53] <Tm_T> Guest44417: I removed the ban, stay in friendly and supportive attitude and all is fine (:
[22:53] <Guest44417> alright thanks
[22:54] <Tm_T> Guest44417: you can join #ubuntu now
[22:58] <funkyHat> arr wahh wahhh
[23:00] <Tm_T> Guest44417: if there's no other issues, you may leave this channel
[23:12] <popey> a question for ops... do some/most loco irc channels 'allow' the ubuntu irc team to be ops in those channels?
[23:12] <popey> as a 'backup' for when something happens and no local ops are about?
[23:16] <Tm_T> popey: irc team? you mean council?
[23:16] <popey> i mean people who do regular ops duties in places like #ubuntu
[23:16] <popey> people who hang out in here
[23:17] <Tm_T> hmm, that would require picking them individually... doesn't happen in -fi atleast
[23:17] <popey> there isnt a mask that could be used?
[23:18] <Tm_T> popey: well, there's ubuntu members cloak, but that's not what you're after
[23:18] <popey> yeah
[23:18] <popey> maybe we should just have more ops who are around a lot at the moment
[23:18] <Tm_T> what time you have problems most?
[23:19] <popey> its not really a time thing
[23:19] <Tm_T> oh
[23:19] <funkyHat> popey: if you could do with more ops in -uk I'd be happy to volunteer. I'm mostly in -offtopic but I idle there and don't mind being "on call" or whatever you want to call it ⢁)
[23:19] <popey> ok, thanks
[23:19] <Tm_T> popey: recruiting that is then (:
[23:26]  * gnomefreak should really read email more carefully i just noticed ubottu is gone in -mozillateam 
[23:26] <gnomefreak> is that what the email was about?
[23:26] <Tm_T> ?
[23:27] <gnomefreak> Tm_T: i dont recall who but there was a email to the mailing list about the bots
[23:27] <gnomefreak> i dont have GUI atm so i cant read it
[23:28] <Tm_T> right
[23:28] <Tm_T> gnomefreak: yes, there were a bit of bot reorganisation
[23:30] <gnomefreak> ubot4 works fine i just should have read it completely before losing GUI
[23:33] <gnomefreak> is this going to interfere with anything. for example will loging into ubot4 using @login be the same as with ubottu?
[23:38] <Tm_T> gnomefreak: I suppose
[23:38] <Tm_T> but I don't know for sure
[23:44] <gnomefreak> ok ill try to get X back tomorrow and read it
[23:44] <gnomefreak> Tm_T: thanks
[23:46] <Tm_T> gnomefreak: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots is good source
[23:48] <gnomefreak> Tm_T: thanks ill save it for tomorrow :)
[23:50] <Tm_T> gnomefreak: I would assume #ubuntu-bots-team is best place to ask questions if there's any after you have read mail & all