[00:00] <Wyleyrabbit> that's what I thought
[00:07] <baobao> Anyone know of any software that handles project management by job or case; for a lawyer or consultant for instance. I used a windows program called ACT! once it was horrible but I liked the idea.
[00:08] <baobao> open source of course
[00:11] <pwnguin> ive only used a few terrible tools
[00:11] <pwnguin> what's the difference
[00:11] <pwnguin> between a project and a case?
[00:11] <baobao> none that I know of I was just throwing out some synonyms
[00:12] <baobao> hoping it would ring a bell
[00:12] <pwnguin> personally i just use evolution tasks
[00:12] <pwnguin> but i guess you want something with gantt charts?
[00:13] <baobao> they would be nice but not immediatly necessary
[00:13] <webPragmatist> uhhhhhh
[00:13] <webPragmatist> wow
[00:13] <pwnguin> redmine?
[00:13] <pwnguin> !info redmine
[00:14] <pwnguin> !info opensched
[00:15] <baobao> cool thanks
[00:15] <pwnguin> baobao: is that the sort of thing you're after?
[00:15] <baobao> maybe
[00:16] <baobao> I want to be able to attach emails scans and other documents to a case and then track time spent on each case, and have a task manager /calender, and billing info
[00:17] <baobao> Looking them up on the web now
[00:17] <pwnguin> so you want project management and content management
[00:18] <baobao> I guess... Im not really sure what to call it
[00:18] <baobao> thats why I was having trouble searching for it
[00:19] <pwnguin> http://demo.redmine.org/
[00:19] <baobao> redmine looks good at first glance :)
[00:20] <pwnguin> redmine looks like it might fit if you translate software engineering to law
[00:20] <pwnguin> s/ticket/case/
[00:20] <baobao> Yeah I think the workflow is about the same just a different language
[00:21] <pwnguin> heh
[00:21] <pwnguin> i have an amusing idea
[00:21] <pwnguin> en-law
[00:21] <baobao> english law?
[00:21] <baobao> inlaws?
[00:21] <pwnguin> as in l10n
[00:22] <pwnguin> it has different languages support
[00:22] <pwnguin> so invent en-law
[00:22] <baobao> :)
[00:22] <pwnguin> except instead of translating to chinese or esperanto, you just translate to english law
[00:22] <pwnguin> so "ticket" becomes "case", etc
[00:24] <baobao> that could work
[00:25] <webPragmatist> if i have a drbd , on is uptodate , other is outofdate
[00:25] <webPragmatist> how do i just make them sync
[00:25] <webPragmatist> i have connected both but they have WFConnection status
[00:29] <redsherpa> Okay, I think I've isolated the problem I'm having with curl to a set of C preprocessor items that indicates which time facility is in use.  Given that, if I cna find someone to help me find the usage on Ubuntu, I can determine which state it has, and perhaps at least write a bug for this.
[00:29] <redsherpa> I'll leave this on for a bit so perhaps I can fish one of you up...and will try to reply promptly.
[00:30] <redsherpa> This is the source file in question:  curl-7.20.1/src$ ls curlutil.c
[00:30] <redsherpa> curlutil.c
[00:30] <redsherpa> I pulled it off the HAXX site.
[00:35] <osmosis> what is this new Reserved BIOS boot area all about?
[00:38] <sjm> anyone know how to get/install gcc 3.4 on lucid?
[00:50] <Anizio> n
[00:50] <SpamapS> o
[00:51] <teste2010> kd o analista de fezes???????????
[00:51] <teste2010> kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[00:51] <Diogo> pidgin pidgin alguém ligou pra mim
[00:52] <psgvaz> Alguem pode me ajudar?
[00:53] <hggdh> psgvaz: English, please
[01:16] <osmosis> If I want raid and LVM, do I do a software raid and then put LVM partitions on it, or is there "raid lvm" partitions that are specific to LVM?
[01:26] <pmatulis> osmosis: what level of raid?
[01:26] <kirkland> hggdh: i think it's what i sent you last week, that you commented on
[01:28] <hggdh> kirkland: ah, OK. I was not sure this was the final form
[01:38] <osmosis> pmatulis, raid 1 software
[01:39] <osmosis> looks like its always just  LVM on top of software raid.
[01:42] <osmosis> why does the server installer prompt me for a postfix mail configuration, when I never selected mail server?
[01:45] <osmosis> what is this new BIOS reserved partition? and does it work automatically with a raid1 ?
[01:51] <alt2> Hello
[01:56] <pmatulis> osmosis: yes, for raid 1 choose raid and then put lvm on top.  note that lvm itself has raid 1 integrated but it needs to be configured prior to install if applying it towards the system partitions
[02:11] <redsherpa> Okay, I think I've isolated the problem I'm having with curl to a set of C preprocessor items that indicates which time facility is in use.  Given that, if I cna find someone to help me find the usage on Ubuntu, I can determine which state it has, and perhaps at least write a bug for this.
[02:11] <redsherpa> I'll leave this on for a bit so perhaps I can fish one of you up...and will try to reply promptly.
[02:11] <redsherpa> curlutil.c
[02:11] <redsherpa> This is the source file in question:  curl-7.20.1/src$ ls curlutil.c
[02:11] <redsherpa> I'll leave this on for a bit so perhaps I can fish one of you up...and will try to reply promptly.
[02:20] <kirkland> ccheney: any progress on those eucalyptus SRUs today?
[04:00] <TheWesley> Is it possible to use a USB jump drive to boot the installer for Ubuntu Server Lucid, or do I have to use the CD?  I have tried making the USB drive bootable on both Windows and on my Ubuntu netbook, but neither worked.
[04:07] <twb> Not if you're that impatient.
[04:11] <ajmitch> twb: come now, why do you expect people to have patience these days?
[04:12] <twb> Only if they want answers
[04:13] <qman__> just over three minutes
[04:13] <qman__> sadly, I've seen far worse
[04:14] <ajmitch> average attention span is about 30 seconds on IRC
[04:18] <twb> Look, a bunny rabbit
[04:33] <ccheney> kirkland, hi responding to your email
[04:33] <kirkland> ccheney: thanks
[04:46] <ccheney> kirkland, i added myself to the conference page for my two
[04:57] <TheWeslry> I installed Ubuntu Server 10.04 without any errors.  It told me the installation completed fine, and to restart.  I took my USB jump drive out that had the boot image on it, and restarted.  The computer restarted, booted to the hard drive, but then went to a black screen with a CLI that said "Gave up waiting for root device," "ALERT! /dev/mapper/server-root does not exist. Dropping to a shell!" Any ideas on what went wrong?
[05:06] <twb> The immediate issue is that it can't find your LV
[05:06] <TheWeslry> what is that?
[05:06] <twb> Where your OS lives
[05:06] <TheWeslry> well that can't be good..
[05:06] <TheWeslry> what should i do?
[05:06] <twb> IMO the most likely case is that your USB hard drive was considered the "first" drive at install time.
[05:07] <twb> Thus your normal hard disk was the "second" disk, but now it's the "first" one, but grub is still looking for a second disk
[05:07] <TheWeslry> oh so should i move the BIOS first boot device to the hard drive instead of usb
[05:08] <twb> TheWeslry: it depends precisely how it failed.
[05:08] <twb> TheWeslry: please get to the busybox shell, and pastebin the contents of /proc/cmdline and the last column of /proc/partitions.
[05:09] <TheWeslry> ok i'm at the shell, and i don't have much experience in CLI, i'm more of a GUI person.. but I'll try my best
[05:10] <TheWeslry> it said Permission denied
[05:10] <twb> You need to type "cat /proc/cmdline", without the double-quotes
[05:11] <TheWeslry> BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-2.6.32-21-generic-pae root=/dev/mapper/server-root ro quiet
[05:11] <TheWeslry> thats all it said
[05:12] <twb> OK, and now /proc/partitions
[05:13] <TheWeslry> that came up with a list of partitions.. and i don't know how to pastebin..
[05:13] <twb> Just list them on one line
[05:15] <TheWeslry> 8 0 78150744 sda | 8 1 48832 sda1 | 8 2 1 sda2 | 8 5 77899776 sda5 | 251 0 76402688 dm-0 | 251 1 495040 dm-1 |
[05:15] <twb> OK, now tell me what "lvm2 lvs" and "lvm2 pvs" say
[05:16] <TheWeslry> o dpm
[05:16] <TheWeslry> i don't see them
[05:16] <twb> They're commands, not files
[05:16] <twb> Don't put "cat" in front
[05:16] <TheWeslry> oh. sorry. i'm new to this stuff.
[05:17] <TheWeslry> ok lvm2 lvs was not found, but i mistyped the first time as just lvm lvs, and it came up with root server -wi-q- 7.86g
[05:17] <twb> Hm.
[05:17] <TheWeslry> sqap_1 server -wi-1- 1.43g
[05:18] <TheWeslry> swap, not sqap
[05:18] <twb> Well, that says it's working
[05:18] <TheWeslry> the pvs says /dev/sda5 server lvm2 a- 74.29g
[05:18] <twb> So I don't know what's going on
[05:19] <TheWeslry> ...reinstall maybe?
[05:19] <twb> I doubt that'll help
[05:19] <twb> Run "vol_id /dev/mapper/server-root"
[05:20] <TheWeslry> vol_id: not found
[05:20] <twb> Damn, what is it...
[05:21] <twb> Try blkid
[05:21] <TheWeslry> it could be that I built this rig in 2002..
[05:21] <TheWeslry> all it shows is >
[05:21] <twb> TheWeslry: most of our gear is Pentium IIIs...
[05:21] <TheWeslry> wow.. you win lol
[05:21] <twb> TheWeslry: I meant "blkid /dev/mapper/server-root"
[05:22] <TheWeslry> i know, but no matter what i type, it goes to a new line that just says > instead of (initramfs)
[05:22] <twb> Hit Ctrl+d
[05:22] <twb> You're inside the blkid prompt because you ran it without an argument.
[05:23] <TheWeslry> now it says bklid not found
[05:23] <twb> You misspelt it.
[05:23] <twb> Get back to the busybox prompt with Ctrl+d or Ctrl+c, then type "blkid /dev/mapper/server-root"
[05:23] <twb> (It looks like vol_id is an 8.04ism)
[05:24] <TheWeslry> it just changed to a different screen that says server login:
[05:24] <TheWeslry> i didn't press anything though..
[05:24] <twb> Oh, right.  That means you've exited busybox and somehow finished booting
[05:24] <twb> But I bet if you reboot you'll still be dropped into busybox
[05:25] <TheWeslry> well i logged in..
[05:25] <twb> If you reboot and it Just Works, it means we've been wasting time because the issue was transient.
[05:25] <TheWeslry> ok i'll reboot
[05:26] <TheWeslry> i used one of the only commands i know.. "sudo shutdown -r now" i figured thats safer than holding the power button.
[05:26] <TheWeslry> yep i'm back in busybox
[05:26] <twb> It is definitely better for the system
[05:27] <TheWeslry> i did your blkid /dev/mapper/server-root and it just said a new blank line
[05:27] <TheWeslry> well not blank, it says (initramfs)
[05:28] <twb> Hm
[05:28] <twb> You should get something more like this
[05:28] <twb>  /dev/sda2: LABEL="dali" UUID="9e52b2e5-1ca6-4413-9b7b-7f8bafeb75c9" UUID_SUB="2216f102-d37e-4d51-a2db-d68d8669a0aa" TYPE="btrfs"
[05:29] <TheWeslry> hmm. it worked the second time..
[05:29] <TheWeslry> it says /dev/mapper/server-root" UUID="93a0c9d4-3d60-4f27-9e69-fed6c7375ccf" TYPE="ext4"
[05:33] <TheWeslry> i'm guessing the "ext4" means it was external.. maybe my USB drive?
[05:34] <twb> No, it's the filesystem type.
[05:34] <twb> It probably means "extended"
[05:35] <TheWeslry> oh okay. i used FAT when i installed i think
[05:35] <twb> The root system can't be FAT, it lacks necessary features.
[05:35] <TheWeslry> oaky maybe not
[05:35] <twb> You might've used FAT for the install media
[05:36] <TheWeslry> yea my usb drive is fay
[05:36] <TheWeslry> fat*
[05:36] <twb> Well, I am pretty much out of ideas.
[05:36] <TheWeslry> well thanks for trying though
[05:36] <twb> The only thing I can suggest is to pass rootdelay=<small number> to make it fail faster, or rootdelay=<big number> in the hope that it's just taking a little too long
[05:37] <twb> Where numbers are in seconds
[05:37] <twb> Say 5 and 600 (10 minutes) respectively.
[05:37] <TheWeslry> okay how would i enter that? just rootdelay=5?
[05:38] <twb> At the grub prompt, you edit the kernel parameter line (the one with "quiet" on it) to add that option
[05:38] <twb> grub should prompt you in a fairly self-explanatory way
[05:39] <TheWeslry> i don't think mine even has a grum prompt.. it's the only os on the computer
[05:40] <twb> It will still prompt you
[05:41] <TheWeslry> okay so i'll reboot and try that
[05:42] <austinium> are there any special settings for download packages using apt-get on LucidLynx Server? I have a server running in VirtualBOX on which i have internet connectivity( i can ping google) but iam unable to to connect to Ubuntu's package repo. I have my internet connection via an ISA Proxy server... i have that taken care of
[05:43] <TheWeslry> the only thing that shows up when i reboot is a blinking cursor. i think my momitor loads too slow to even see the post screen
[05:43] <twb> austinium: does normal browsing work within your server VM?
[05:43] <austinium> twb:i dont GUI on it
[05:43] <twb> TheWeslry: ok, just hit ESC
[05:43] <twb> austinium: only crap browsers require a GUI
[05:44] <twb> austinium: you should have w3m installed already
[05:44] <twb> Or you could try wget
[05:44] <austinium> twb: hehe...iam new to this, trying w3m now
[05:44] <TheWeslry> when i press escape. it says ^[
[05:44] <austinium> twb: i can ping google.com
[05:45] <twb> TheWeslry: that means you're already too far
[05:45] <TheWeslry> ok i'll retry
[05:45] <twb> TheWeslry: grub happens before the kernel loads
[05:45] <twb> austinium: well, perhaps, but does HTTP work?
[05:47] <TheWeslry> i've tried like four times, and right after the post screen i press escape, nothing happens. it goes straight to busybox
[05:47] <twb> Er, by "POST screen" you mean the BIOS?
[05:48] <TheWeslry> yea sorry
[05:48] <twb> OK, I can't explain that.
[05:48] <TheWeslry> well.. no
[05:48] <TheWeslry> to go into the bios, i press DEL
[05:49] <TheWeslry> the post screen is the first thing that shows up on my copmuter. it shows the different ide drives and what buttons to press to go into bios and to select the boot device
[05:52] <austinium> twb: whats the syntax for -pauth?
[05:53] <twb> austinium: I don't know what you're talking about.
[05:53] <austinium> twb: on w3m
[05:53] <austinium> twb: i have internet access via Proxy server
[05:53] <twb> Well, the manpage says -pauth user:pass
[05:54] <austinium> twb: yes i did try that w3m -pauth username:password
[05:54] <austinium> twb: with the actual username & password
[05:54] <austinium> twb:it doesn't seem to workj
[05:54] <twb> Note tihat, IIRC, apt-get doesn't support the non-shit proxy authentication method (DIGEST?)
[05:54] <twb> austinium: you could try curl or wget, to examine the interaction at the protocol level.
[05:57] <TheWeslry> i'm just going to try to re-install. maybe i'll have better luck this time.
[06:01] <AecioAmanci> Pessoal tira uma duvida por favor... to querendo instalar o driver vga do meu pc e nao consigo achar.?
[06:01] <austinium> twb: wget works
[06:01] <AecioAmanci> ?
[06:02] <twb> austinium: what auth method does your proxy use?
[06:02] <austinium> ISA
[06:03] <austinium> well i know that its an ISA proxy
[06:03] <twb> Erm.
[06:03] <twb> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISA_Server ?
[06:04] <twb> Woof, that looks unpleasantly hairy.
[06:04] <austinium> twb: i'll try to figure that out, i didnt setup the proxy server
[06:04] <twb> You could just ask your sysadmin
[06:04] <twb> Also, when you set your proxy in /etc/apt/apt.conf, you can try changing http://example.net to http://user:pass@example.net
[06:05] <twb> If that works, I guess you don't need to care about how the proxy works
[06:06] <austinium> twb: i dont have a file names /etc/apt/apt.conf
[06:06] <austinium> named#
[06:10] <twb> So how are you telling apt-get to use your proxy?
[06:13] <austinium> i export http_proxy
[06:13] <twb> OK, so change it there instead
[06:14] <austinium> twb i have this setup on Lenny, i have ntlmaps proxy server running on local host port 5865
[06:14] <austinium> so i set http_proxy to point there
[06:14] <austinium> apt-get works fine then ( on Lenny)
[06:15] <twb> If <whatever> works for Lenny, it should also work for Lucid.
[06:16] <austinium> yeah and that whats got me all confused here
[06:16] <twb> Do you get an error from apt?
[06:17] <austinium> yes
[06:17] <twb> Pastebin them
[06:17] <austinium> failed to fetch ...
[06:17] <austinium> yeah just a sec
[06:17] <twb> Pastebin the entire transcript of "apt-get update" if you can do so easily.
[06:21] <austinium> twb: pastebin.com/ai5prrQN
[06:22] <twb> Could not connect to security.ubuntu.com:80 (91.189.88.37). - connect (113: No route to host)
[06:22] <twb> ...it's not usinga proxy
[06:22] <twb> Probably sudo is stripping your http_proxy environment variable.
[06:23] <twb> Try sudo env http_proxy=http://user:pass@example.net/ apt-get update
[06:24] <austinium> twb: thank you
[06:24] <austinium> twb: this is what is different b/w Lucid & Lenny
[06:25] <austinium> twb: on lenny i do this as su
[06:25] <twb> Lenny probably has an apt.conf
[06:25] <twb> Oh.
[06:25] <austinium> twb: here i run apt-get using sudo
[06:28] <TheWeslry> well thanks for the help twb, i'm letting the installer run and i'll check on it later.  if i have any problems after this install, i'll come back here. bye
[07:08] <ttx> Good morning
[07:45] <kaushal> hi
[07:45] <kaushal> I am running out of LAN IPs on dhcp, is there a way to add any new pool of IPs how is it done ?
[07:47] <kaushal> I mean on dhcp server
[07:49] <twb> apt-get install dhcp6 ? :-)
[07:50] <MasterZuFu> Hi everyone. I just bought two books: "Linux Server Security: 2nd Edition" and "Hardening Linux". I don't know the first thing about linux security, for that matter about linux, but I am hosting a website on a dedicated server with linux as my server OS (Ubuntu 10.04). I wanted your opinions on which book to read first please?
[07:52] <twb> MasterZuFu: are they both published by ORA?
[07:52] <MasterZuFu> one moment...
[07:52] <twb> In general, you should favour ORA over Apress over <everyone else>
[07:52] <MasterZuFu> O'Reilly and Apress
[07:53] <twb> I also don't like Apress because they're from the "ragged right" new school of typesetters.
[07:53] <MasterZuFu> no idea what that means
[07:54] <twb> MasterZuFu: they think books are web pages
[07:54] <CaptainTrek> quick question that preceeds my actual question: could someone here help me narrow down an issue with my ssh (non-server side, but client side)?
[07:54] <twb> !anyone
[07:54] <CaptainTrek> twb: prepare for a long one then (its a paragraph that is NOT spam)
[07:54] <CaptainTrek> got an interesting issue.  Connecting to my VPS, and its not accepting my public key.  server / client side logs are here: http://starfleet.pastebin.com/CD2ziaeX    the VPS admin who helped set it up says it might be some issue with seahorse-daemon or gnome-keyring.  any help is appreciated.  Using: Ubuntu 10.04
[07:55] <CaptainTrek> actually, the server accepts the pubkey
[07:55] <twb> You can't diagnose "connection refused" issues from the client side.
[07:55] <CaptainTrek> the client reads some weird issue
[07:55] <MasterZuFu> so, should i read the Apress book first or the O'Reilly book first? twb
[07:55] <CaptainTrek> read the pastebin
[07:55] <twb> OpenSSH deliberately refuses to explain why
[07:55] <CaptainTrek> it wasnt conn refused
[07:55] <twb> MasterZuFu: ORA = O'Reilly
[07:55] <MasterZuFu> oh
[07:55] <MasterZuFu> lulz
[07:55] <CaptainTrek> twb: it wasnt conn refused
[07:55] <CaptainTrek> twb: involves public key issues
[07:56] <MasterZuFu> Thanks, i'll read that one first then ;) :P
[07:56] <twb> CaptainTrek: I meant any kind of refusal, including it not accepting your public key
[07:56] <CaptainTrek> ...
[07:56] <twb> CaptainTrek: the best way to find out why it didn't work is to have the other guy check his auth.log
[07:56] <CaptainTrek> twb: the data IS from auth.log
[07:57] <CaptainTrek> read the pastebin, its got BOTH server AND client
[07:57] <twb> Oh, sorry, I missed that
[07:57] <CaptainTrek> twb: there's a blatant pastebin in there >.>
[07:57] <twb> Try again with -vvv -oBatchMode=yes and pastebin the result
[07:58] <twb> Actually, I don't know what the hell "Agent admitted failure to sign using the key." is.
[07:58] <CaptainTrek> that's the consensus
[07:58] <twb> If you still get that, try "gpg-agent ssh -vvv -oBatchMode=yes <your normal options>"
[07:58] <CaptainTrek> of you, me, and the hoster (bburhans if you've seen him around on freenode)
[07:58] <twb> Hopefully that will stick a did new agent in front of your seahorse
[07:58] <CaptainTrek> yeah i still get it
[07:59] <twb> Oops, not gpg-agent
[07:59] <twb> ssh-agent
[07:59] <CaptainTrek> it wont lemme connect with pw or anything else with just the -vvv -oBatchMode=yes added
[07:59] <twb> The purpose of -oBatchMode=yes is to disable password auth, so that you can concentrate on why keys aren't working.
[07:59] <CaptainTrek> ah okay
[08:00] <CaptainTrek> twb: will i be quieted if I paste 3 lines into here?
[08:00] <CaptainTrek> the data from the first time
[08:00] <CaptainTrek> without ssh-agent
[08:00] <twb> apt-get install pastebinit
[08:00]  * CaptainTrek just goes to his pastebin
[08:00] <twb> script -c 'whatever', then pastebinit typescript
[08:01] <CaptainTrek> twb: http://starfleet.pastebin.com/a9ThwDkk
[08:01] <CaptainTrek> lemme run with ssh-agent now
[08:01] <CaptainTrek> now it lets me in with pubkey
[08:02] <CaptainTrek> twb: ^^^
[08:02] <twb> That's very odd
[08:02] <twb> Are you foolishly uses a passphraseless key?
[08:02] <CaptainTrek> twb: perhaps...
[08:02] <CaptainTrek> FYI: the hoster told me not to
[08:02] <CaptainTrek> xD
[08:02] <CaptainTrek> should I use a passphrased key?
[08:02] <twb> Well, you're making THEIR system less secure, so it's reasonable for them to tell you not to.
[08:03] <twb> You can add a passphrase to an existing key
[08:03] <CaptainTrek> lol
[08:03] <CaptainTrek> help with that plz
[08:03] <CaptainTrek> i'm not super with key things
[08:03] <CaptainTrek> :)
[08:03] <twb> Try ssh-keygen -p
[08:04] <twb> As for the original problem, it's caused by your ssh-agent being retarded.  Try uninstalling seahorse, or configuring it correctly (whatever that may mean).
[08:04] <twb> When I say "your ssh-agent", I mean seahorse, not the ssh-agent *called* ssh-agent.
[08:04] <CaptainTrek> of course
[08:04] <CaptainTrek> sudo apt-get purge seahorse?
[08:04] <twb> It probably means adding ~/.ssh/id_rsa to seahorse's keyring or something
[08:05] <twb> CaptainTrek: yes
[08:05] <twb> Note that you'll probably need to run "ssh-add" manually to avoid re-typing your passphrase all the time.
[08:05] <CaptainTrek> heh
[08:05] <CaptainTrek> reinstalling now
[08:05] <twb> Also, you might want something like gtk-led-askpass to pop up a dialog for passphrase entry
[08:06] <twb> (Just installing it will suffice to make it work.)
[08:06] <CaptainTrek> twb: cant remove without killing ubuntu-desktop
[08:06] <twb> ubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage
[08:06] <twb> But if you want to be a bastard, a trick that often works is "sudo dpkg-divert --rename /usr/bin/seahorse"
[08:07] <twb> ...which will leave it installed, but make attempts to auto-run it fail
[08:07] <CaptainTrek> lol
[08:07] <CaptainTrek> ubuntu-desktop isnt needed?
[08:07] <twb> "metapackage" means it just lists a bunch of packages to keep installed
[08:07] <twb> It doesn't provide anything itself
[08:07] <CaptainTrek> so its not needed then
[08:09] <CaptainTrek> alrighty, purged, reinstalled, did ssh-add and now it lets it in
[08:09] <CaptainTrek> *shrugs*
[08:09] <CaptainTrek> twb: thanks for the help, it seems to have resolved itself now
[08:19] <CaptainTrek> alrighty more questions, this time configuration
[08:19] <CaptainTrek> of sshd
[08:20] <CaptainTrek> (1) how do I add a message that pops up upon connect?
[08:20] <CaptainTrek> (2) how can I edit the port that sshd listens on?
[08:20] <CaptainTrek> and thats it
[08:20] <CaptainTrek> :)
[08:21] <kees> CaptainTrek: "man sshd_config" should answer both of those.  You'll be editing /etc/ssh/sshd_config and then "sudo service ssh reload"
[08:21] <CaptainTrek> kees: thanks, i keep forgetting bout manpages xD
[08:25] <rookie> hello world !!!
[08:25] <pwnguin> hi
[08:26] <pwnguin> rookie: you had a question?
[08:27] <twb> For "message on connect" you may want /etc/motd instead
[08:27] <rookie> a lotter of question
[08:27] <rookie>  :P
[08:27] <rookie> I need to set up a ftp and host
[08:27] <osmosis> Every time the server crashes, I plug in a keyboard and monitor, and I hit a key to unblank the screen and figure out what happens, and as soon as I hit a key the machine just reboots. Any ideas? is this normal?
[08:27] <twb> rookie: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie
[08:27] <pwnguin> heh
[08:28] <twb> osmosis: that is not normal.
[08:28] <pwnguin> just from looking at the URL i think ive found my new cube decoration fro the month
[08:28] <rookie> thks
[08:28] <twb> osmosis: it is a PS/2 or USB keyboard?
[08:34] <pwnguin> rookie: unless you have specific needs, FTP is not a good idea
[08:34] <pwnguin> SCP works pretty much out of the box
[08:35] <osmosis> twb, usb
[08:35] <rookie> so, then what u recomend ?
[08:36] <twb> osmosis: I can't explain that at all.
[08:36] <twb> rookie: HTTP for read-only access, SFTP for write access.
[08:37] <rookie> ok
[08:37] <rookie> I have set a webside for saturday
[08:37] <pwnguin> if you have ssh access, you don't need FTP
[08:38] <rookie> so I need answer now !!!! pls
[08:39] <pwnguin> what are you using for your desktop?
[08:39] <rookie> I need a manual to make that happen, please world help me
[08:40] <pwnguin> you've already got apache running, right
[08:40] <pwnguin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[08:41] <pwnguin> specically, pay attention to the part that says "virtual hosts"
[08:42] <rookie> nop
[08:42] <rookie> thks
[08:43] <pwnguin> anyone know of a caldav server that supports tasks and work with evolution?
[09:11] <pthsWork> Hi all, I'm setting up Samba against a Server 2008r2 domain with 2 DC's. In krb5.conf kdc= I need to set the server, but is it possible to set two servers here for failover?
[09:12] <twb> pwnguin: further, you can hand out SFTP access WITHOUT handing out full SSH access.
[09:31] <rookie> mysql -u root -p
[09:31] <rookie> Enter password:
[09:31] <rookie> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[09:45] <twb> pwnguin: is "caldav" what I would call "that calendaring crap that my customers insist they need"?
[09:45] <twb> Booking meetings via email, stuff like that?
[10:20] <MasterZuFu> hello. I'm trying to find whatever files on my server point to any other files or directory the the "/root/" directory in it. For example, if a config file has /root/ as a directory for some files, I want to have a list of what files show that. Any idea how to do this?
[10:56] <virtual> Is it possible to construct a network like this??
[10:56] <virtual> client <----> router <----> server
[10:57] <MasterZuFu> uh, yeah, they do it all the time
[10:57] <MasterZuFu> you have to use port forwarding
[10:57] <virtual> and i want the dhcp server on the server machine to give ip for client
[10:57] <MasterZuFu> no, that'd be done by the router
[10:57] <virtual> and both the end of the server  is differnt network
[10:58] <MasterZuFu> i'm lost now, what?
[10:58] <virtual> i mean both end of the router is different network
[10:58] <virtual> it was a mistake ;)
[10:58] <virtual> MasterZuFu, now is it possible to configure the dhcp server like that??
[10:59] <sjm> virtual: it might be possible if router has a dhcp forwarder in it.
[10:59] <virtual> sjm,  how can it be done??
[10:59] <MasterZuFu> well, think about it virtual
[10:59] <sjm> does the router have a dhcp forwarder?
[10:59] <MasterZuFu> a wireless router does this already
[10:59] <MasterZuFu> if you have a wireless router, you can do this
[11:00] <virtual> the router used here is linux machine
[11:00] <virtual> sjm, what is dhcp forwarder..what package provides that??
[11:01] <MasterZuFu> so wait, the router is just a linux box? that's not a router. that's a server
[11:02] <sjm> start looking here: http://linux.die.net/man/1/dhcp-fwd
[11:02] <virtual> MasterZuFu, its just for forwarding traffic
[11:02] <MasterZuFu> uh, still not a router though
[11:02] <MasterZuFu> :P
[11:04] <MasterZuFu> i would suggest getting an actual router. servers aren't designed to handle the kind of traffic a router is meant to handle. if you for some reason get a good amount of traffic at any point in time, your server will just crap out.
[11:11] <jmazaredo> is qemu+zen considered a paraviltualized installed it in my ubuntu lucid
[11:14] <sjm> virtual:  looks like it might be in the dhcp-helper or dhcp3-relay packages
[11:21] <MrPicard> Hi guys
[11:21] <MrPicard> im having issues installing ebox on my ubuntu server
[11:22] <MrPicard> added the package in the /list/ system via VI
[11:22] <MrPicard> saved using the :WQ command.
[11:53] <MrPicard> anyone here?
[11:53] <MrPicard> I was wondering if possibly im doing somthing wrong in vi
[11:53] <MrPicard> ive added the DEB file, just get this error. root@ec2db1:~# sudo apt-get install ebox-office
[11:53] <MrPicard> Reading package lists... Done
[11:53] <MrPicard> Building dependency tree
[11:53] <MrPicard> Reading state information... Done
[11:53] <MrPicard> E: Couldn't find package ebox-offic
[11:58] <twb> What does "added the DEB file" mean?
[11:59] <MrPicard> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ebox/1.4/ubuntu hardy main via /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:59] <twb> Do you understand the danger of adding PPAs to your sources list?
[12:01] <Snadder> Hi. Anyone know what kinda possibilities there is, for a hosting provider to set up its own private cloud for its customers?
[12:01] <MrPicard> rackspace is a good provider snadder.
[12:01] <MrPicard> twb i understand
[12:01] <Snadder> We want to run it on our own hardware.
[12:02] <MrPicard> thought about vmware sphere 4?
[12:02] <MrPicard> thats what i use
[12:03] <Snadder> Cool.. Do you know about a cloud which is compatible with hyper-v?
[12:03] <Snadder> for migrating
[12:04] <twb> MrPicard: you forgot to run "sudo apt-get update"
[12:06] <Snadder> MrPicard, what I really need, is some doc which describes the advantages and dissadvantages of setting up diffrent kinda clouds on my own hardware.
[12:07] <twb> Snadder: you might find one on Wikipedia
[12:07] <jumbers> I'm confused by some block messages in my UFW logs. I have the following rule in my settings "80/tcp                     ALLOW       Anywhere" but I am seeing hundreds of thousands of lines that look like this: http://pb.jnumbers.com/10
[12:07] <twb> Snadder: or at least a table comparing features
[12:09] <jumbers> Am I misreading my log somehow?
[12:10] <twb> jumbers: perhaps you're looking at the OUTPUT or FORWARD table?
[12:10] <twb> ufw is a hand-holding wrapper for iptables-save and iptables-restore.  You can run "iptables-save -c" to dump the netfilter tables and examine them directly, which may help.
[12:11] <jumbers> They're in my ufw.log though and it says [UFW_BLOCK] in the line
[12:11] <twb> So what?
[12:13] <Snadder> What is the real advantages of setting up a private cloud, compeard to traditional virtualization?
[12:14] <twb> resources are allocated where they're needed
[12:15] <Daviey> Snadder: ability to easily scale, and "drop in" hardware.
[12:16] <Snadder> In normal virtualization its easy to set up a new cluster.. and live migrate servers to it.
[12:16] <Snadder> But this happens more or like automaticly for hosting servers with full os'es in the cloud?
[12:17] <Snadder> I'm thinking about a PaaS..
[12:17] <twb> polyamory as a service?
[12:18] <Snadder> Yes.
[12:18] <soren> Snadder: What "cloud" in this context gives you that you don't already have with "regular" virtualisation is an API that you can safely expose to random users to let them provision virtual machines.
[12:19] <twb> soren: libvirt does most of that
[12:19] <soren> twb: It doesn't.
[12:19] <soren> twb: At all.
[12:19] <Snadder> soren, do you know if microsoft offer PaaS?
[12:19] <twb> then I must've misunderstood some of their salespitch
[12:20] <soren> Snadder: That's hardly on topic for this channel.
[12:20] <Snadder> I hope you say no.. because I hate them..
[12:20] <Snadder> soren, by boss loves them, and want to use theyre technology..
[12:20] <twb> Snadder: kill him and take his power
[12:20] <soren> twb: libvirt gives you an API to manage virtual machines and storage and such.
[12:21] <soren> twb: It's not an API you want to expose to random users.
[12:21] <Snadder> soren, twb I just want to make sure I can recommend using something MS. don't offer.
[12:21] <soren> Snadder: Like "Linux"?
[12:21] <soren> Snadder: MS doesn't offer that.
[12:22] <soren> Easy.
[12:22] <twb> soren: I bet it does in some devices
[12:22] <twb> Do they still run their web servers on BSD?
[12:22] <Snadder> soren, a PaaS solution like vmware sphere 4, or eucalyptus cloud
[12:23] <soren> Snadder: That's not a PaaS solution.
[12:23] <Snadder> vmware sphere 4?
[12:23] <soren> No idea, but UEC certainly isn't.
[12:23] <soren> It's IaaS.
[12:24] <Snadder> Damn.. I knew about SaaS and PaaS.. but not IaaS
[12:24] <Snadder> *looking up*
[12:24]  * twb grumbles about new-fangled buzzwords
[12:25] <soren> SaaS is software as a service. Like Wordpress.com, for instance.
[12:25] <soren> PaaS is platform as a service. Like Google App Engine.
[12:26] <soren> IaaS is infrastructure as a service. Such as Rackspace Cloud, EC2, UEC, Rimuhosting, Linode..
[12:27] <twb> PaaS is "here's my program, run it where you want", where IaaS is "here is my OS, run it where you want" ?
[12:27] <soren> In a nutshell, yes.
[12:27] <Snadder> Good clearification..
[12:28] <twb> I wonder how standardized the underlying "hardware" that the OS image runs on is.
[12:28] <Snadder> What I really want is IaaS then.
[12:28] <soren> twb: What do you mean?
[12:28] <twb> soren: like does everyone emulate a e100 NIC
[12:29] <soren> they're almost all Xen based.
[12:29] <soren> So they all use Xen PV NICs.
[12:29] <twb> But not eucalyptus, right?
[12:29] <soren> Eucalyptus does both Xen and KVM, but UEC uses kvm.
[12:30] <twb> Ah, right
[12:30] <Snadder> All those IaaS providers.. what software does they use?
[12:31] <Snadder> all diffrent ones?
[12:31] <twb> I assumed it was doing its own bizarro wacky thing in order to line up with whatever amazon does
[12:31] <soren> Snadder: Yes, they all roll their own stuff.
[12:31] <soren> twb: No comment.
[12:31] <twb> haha
[12:32] <soren> Snadder: for now.
[12:32] <Snadder> soren, do you know if its easy to migrate from one of the clouds to another?
[12:32] <Snadder> soren, or from virtualization to a cloud.
[12:32] <soren> Snadder: Yes, I do know.
[12:32] <Snadder> soren, And do you want to share it also :-p
[12:32] <soren> Sure.
[12:33] <soren> Snadder: It depends.
[12:33] <twb> Snadder: use imperative voice, or use a query.
[12:34] <Snadder> soren, twb: hehe.
[12:35] <soren> Snadder: It depends on where you're migrating from. It depends on where you migrating to. It depends on what you're migrating. With the current amount of information given, all I can say is: Yes, I do know: It depends.
[12:35] <soren> Oh, and it depends on how clever you are, too.
[12:36] <Snadder> Is it possible to migrate old Linux machines from vmware to any cloud?
[12:37] <soren> Some people find it difficult to operate a keyboard in general. Others dream in Common LISP. If you're in the former category, it's almost certainly going to be difficult regardless of all the other factors.
[12:37] <soren> Snadder: No.
[12:38] <soren> Snadder: "Any cloud" is a difficult place to migrate to.
[12:38] <twb> cumulonimbus, I choose you!
[12:39] <Snadder> In any cloud I meant, state which clouds it works with, and which it dosn't.
[12:39] <soren> I'm not going to do all your work for you.
[12:39] <twb> I have dreamt in Linley's Dungeon Crawl before.
[12:39] <soren> And again: "old Linux machines" is not something I can usefully relate to nor have opinions on.
[12:40] <twb> It's pretty fucked up when you wake up and lean against the # only to have it turn out to be a +
[12:40] <Snadder> Ok, I'm wondring specially on eucalyptus
[12:40] <soren> twb: I'm sure that all makes sense somehow :)
[12:40] <soren> Snadder: Then say "Eucalyptus" instead of "any cloud".
[12:40] <twb> soren: er, s/crawl/nethack/ ?
[12:40] <soren> Snadder: It's easier that way.
[12:40] <soren> twb: Sorry.
[12:41] <soren> cue screaming
[12:41] <soren> That's right. I've never played more than probably 20 seconds of nethack. I'm comfortable with this fact.
[12:41] <twb> crawl is nice in that it's actively developed and its UI and gameplay are actually DESIGNED
[12:42] <soren> Snadder: Until you give me some actual information I can't give you answers you can put to any use.
[12:42] <twb> We could just make up information
[12:43] <Snadder> soren, make it easy.. is it possible to migrate a Ubuntu 9.10 machine from vmware to eucalyptus?
[12:43] <soren> Given the correct circumstances, yes.
[12:47] <Snadder> soren, And what kinda circumstances is that?
[12:47] <soren> This is getting old...
[12:47] <soren> Snadder: How about you tell me what it is that you want to move?
[12:48] <soren> Snadder: More information leads to more useful answers. Always.
[12:50] <Snadder> soren, there is not one thing I want to move.. I want to move alot of diffrent things.
[12:51] <Snadder> I want to move whole .vmx vmware images of all kinda Linux oses.
[12:52] <twb> soren: not ALWAYS.  In the limit, you need to hire a data miner.
[12:52] <twb> And they're unionized!
[12:53] <Snadder> Atm we run VMware ESX Server 2.5.2
[12:53] <Snadder> Pretty old and outdated.. so we want something we can offer to our customers as an IaaS and at the same thing use for internal use.
[12:53] <Snadder> same time*
[12:54] <soren> EUC instances are not persistent. If you shut them down, your changes will be gone. If you application is cool with that, you're golden.
[12:54] <soren> If you're not cool with that, and you can fix them to be cool with that, you're golden.
[12:54] <soren> If you can't fix them to be cool with that, but you can move the stuff that needs to be persistent to an EBS volume, you're golden.
[12:55] <soren> If you can't do that either, you're less than golden. Bronzy at best. Probably rusted irony.
[12:55] <soren> Whatever that means.
[12:57] <Snadder> We need persistent storage.. is EBS an general term.. i've read about it when conserning EC2, but not conserning EUC
[13:04] <soren> Snadder: UEC has EBS as well.
[13:04] <soren> Snadder: It's an EC2 thing. Just like everything else in UEC is.
[13:05] <Snadder> Ah, ok.
[13:05] <Snadder> I've heard that all external EC2 api's is avaible in UEC too.. Do you know what the diffrence on external and internal cloud api is?
[13:06] <Snadder> But internal EC2 api's is not compatible with internal UEC api's.
[13:09] <Snadder> soren, I understand.. so I have to manually move partitions I want to have data in.. to an EBS volume when I move from virtualization to UEC.. :-)
[13:10] <Snadder> Didn't think about that.. but it makes sense.
[13:10] <soren> Snadder: Yes, and make sure they're attached to the right instance, not attached to the wrong instances, and are mounted at the correct times, and don't start the service until they're mounted.
[13:10] <soren> Snadder: Internal EC2 api's?
[13:11] <soren> Snadder: What do you mean by internal EC2 api's?
[13:12] <Snadder> soren, I have no clue whats the internal EC2 api is.. I just heard about it in some article talking about cloud compatibilty
[13:12] <soren> Snadder: Don't worry about them, then.
[13:13] <soren> Snadder: UEC aims to expose the same API's as EC2.
[13:13] <soren> Snadder: Simple as that.
[13:13] <Snadder> Well.. I want to me sure I can move stuff from ec2 to UEC and back as I want.
[13:13] <Snadder> An aim isn't the same as what they provide.
[13:15] <twb> Snadder: I imagine patches are welcome
[13:15] <soren> EC2 frequently updates their API. They're not going to wait until UEC is caught up before releasing stuff.
[13:16] <soren> ...so UEC can't say "hi, we provide all the same API's as EC2", because the second those words are uttered, EC2 may come out with a new extension to its API.
[13:17]  * soren goes back to coding
[13:19] <Snadder> Ok.. thanks alot for the info.
[13:20] <twb> It wouldn't surprise me if they change the api deliberately to fuck with eucalyptus
[13:21] <soren> It would surprise me.
[13:21] <soren> It's not like they're changing it willy-nilly. They're adding new functionality.
[13:23] <twb> Not *yet* maybe.
[13:23]  * twb glares at proprietary space
[13:37] <diago> Is it possible to create br0:1 aliases?
[13:40] <sommer> morning
[13:42] <soren> diago: Try it?
[13:45] <diago> I will and if you can that would be the jank
[13:48] <ttx> sommer: bug 165184 is a documentation papercut... would you mind being assigned to it ?
[13:50] <hallyn> kir: you know that bug 582509 about torrent hanging ecryptfs - they're using tranmission which I'm told has quite a few exploits, and an irc friend of mine has had boxes frozne by the exploits...
[13:51] <hallyn> oh well that would be bc it's 482509
[13:53] <sommer> ttx: sure no problem
[13:55] <xfg> morning
[14:03] <zul> Daviey: ping
[14:03] <ttx> sommer: cool, thanks !
[14:24] <Daviey> zul: \o
[14:24] <zul> Daviey: does eucalyptus use ethtool anywhere...ie hardcoding it?
[14:24]  * Daviey greps
[14:27] <kapn> keith.nunn@xe.com1fish2fish
[14:28] <Daviey> zul: grep returns null
[14:28] <Daviey> is that good or bad?
[14:28] <zul> Daviey: nope its good
[14:32] <elb0w> anyone know of a good IDE font that is clean but ' and " look different
[14:43] <oru_work> after apt-get remove bugzilla3 i'm trying to restart apache2 and here is what i'm getting http://pastebin.linode.com/3907
[14:44] <pmatulis> oru_work: guess you need to set up /etc/apache2/conf.d/bugzilla3.conf
[14:45] <oru_work> pmatulis, lol
[14:48] <oru_work> hmm
[14:49] <oru_work> i don't see any matches for defining bugzilla3.conf in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[14:49] <oru_work> I think i need to run a command something like a2ensite rewrite
[14:56] <hggdh> spineau: how are things in the test rig?
[14:57] <spineau> hggdh: hello
[14:57] <hggdh> good afternoon, spineau
[14:58] <spineau> hggdh: not so bad, I tried to get web access to install sw from QA ppa, but firewall rules are too ... strict
[14:59] <spineau> hggdh: one question, how can you test elastic ip ?
[14:59] <hggdh> spineau: that may happen ;-) option is (what I have done already many times) to copy the packages in
[14:59] <spineau> hggdh: in my case, there is A LOT of stuff to install to have checkbox up an running
[15:01] <rgreening> ScottK: bug 589188
[15:01] <spineau> hggdh: regarding elastic ip feature, is there some euca commands to redirect the traffic ? Hybridfox seems to be able to do that but I would want to script it so, any idea ?
[15:01] <riveraj> is it possible to limit skype bandwidth on an ubuntu gateway/router via firewall?
[15:06] <hggdh> spineau: you mean associate the elastic IP?
[15:06] <spineau> hggdh: excatly
[15:06] <hggdh> spineau: when you set an elastic IP the ip tables should be be updated, together with routing
[15:07] <hggdh> spineau: I mean, automatically
[15:07] <hggdh> spineau: so, for a client from outside it will be as simple as using the new IP to connect
[15:07] <spineau> hggdh: but how do you set this "IP"
[15:08] <jdstrand> zul: hey, would you be interested in the fix for debian bug #366124 that just hit lenny? (1.2.12-5+lenny2)
[15:08] <zul> jdstrand: yeah lemme go check
[15:09] <jdstrand> zul: I just happened to notice it on debian-changes...
[15:09] <hggdh> spineau: euca-associate-address
[15:09] <Daviey> kirkland:  966 ?        00:00:00 kvm-irqfd-clean
[15:09] <jdstrand> zul: ie, I know nothing about it personally
[15:09] <ScottK> riveraj: skype is difficult since if it can't connect to the server it will try different ports.
[15:09] <spineau> hggdh: yes...
[15:09] <spineau> hggdh: thanks
[15:09] <ScottK> rgreening: Looking.
[15:09] <zul> jdstrand: reading
[15:10] <zul> jdstrand: have you guys merged openssl yet?
[15:10] <jdstrand> zul: doesn't look like it. I know nxvl and mdeslaur were looking at it
[15:10] <zul> jdstrand: i ask because the version of apache in maverick requires a newer openssl so im kind of blocked
[15:11] <jdstrand> nxvl, mdeslaur: fyi ^
[15:11] <corpse> does anyone mind testing my webserve adress. i think im getting a loopback
[15:11] <jdstrand> zul: I imagine that could be done next week. perhaps follow-up with them when mdeslaur gets back?
[15:12] <zul> jdstrand: sure
[15:12] <zul> jdstrand: with regards to the debian bug its something we are going to inherit anyways
[15:13] <jdstrand> zul: right-- I meant more as an SRU type thing...
[15:13] <zul> jdstrand: right...it might be good ill have to see what is involved for an SRU
[15:13] <jdstrand> cool, thanks
[15:14]  * jdstrand isn't sure why he is thanking, since he has no vested interest in the bug atm
[15:15] <zul> jdstrand: heh
[15:18] <riveraj> ScottK: is there any way to limit it's bandwidth from the gateway/router side?
[15:18] <znull> hello, i'm running 10.4 http://pastebin.ca/1876636 but I can't install some packages.. any ideea thank you.
[15:18] <nxvl> zul: nope, still not merged debsrc 3.0 making the usal complications worst
[15:18] <smoser> kirkland, you can confirm this, right: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qemu-kvm/+bug/589099
[15:18] <smoser> is there another known bug for that ?
[15:19] <zul> nxvl: meh
[15:19] <soren> smoser: On lucid?
[15:19] <soren> smoser: It works for me, it seems.
[15:19] <smoser> yes
[15:20] <soren> smoser: if I'm reading it correctly, that is.
[15:20] <smoser> you have vt extensions
[15:20] <soren> Correct.
[15:20] <smoser> i think thats what the bug really is
[15:20] <soren> If I unload /dev
[15:21] <soren> blah
[15:21] <soren> If I unload kvm-intel, it still works.
[15:21] <smoser> (ie, i think it will fail to "just work" if you do not. previously if you did not have vt support it would fall back to full virt)
[15:21] <soren> At that point, qemu can't tell that I have VT.
[15:21] <ScottK> riveraj: You have to know what ports to limit and that's non-trivial.  I didn't spend more than 15 minutes on the question before when it came up, so someone may have solved it.
[15:21] <soren> I don't understand the bug report completely, though.
[15:21] <soren> "when no arguments are given, it should attempt booting from all possible devices"
[15:21] <soren> All possible devices if not argumets
[15:21] <soren> Gah... I suck at typing today.
[15:22] <smoser> yeah, i dont understand it either.
[15:22] <kirkland> smoser: "qemu -cdrom lucid-desktop-amd64.iso" works fine for me (with and without the kvm module loaded)
[15:22] <soren> Here is a complete list of possible devices when no arguments are given:
[15:22] <soren> That is all.
[15:22] <smoser> i ust tried with kvm_intel unloaded and it seems to go ok.
[15:22] <soren> So I don't see what he expects it to boot from.
[15:22] <soren> Regardless, I do see stuff on the console when I run it without arguments.
[15:23] <soren> Maybe he's using a b0rken kernel. He doesn't say.
[15:38] <corpse> can somone test nates.serverbeer.com  i can not access it from inside my network
[15:43] <smoser> mathiaz, you have told me once before that ther eis a well defiendversioning mechanism for security updates.
[15:43] <smoser> do you have a link to that on han d?
[15:44] <smoser> maybe jdstrand
[15:44] <mathiaz> smoser: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdatePreparation#Update%20the%20packaging
[15:45] <smoser> hmm.. i thought they somehow handled the release in the numbering also
[15:45] <smoser> ie one version of package built for 9.10 is less than for 10.04
[15:46] <smoser> oh. i see it.
[15:46] <mathiaz> smoser: right - -ubuntu0.9.10.1 vs -ubuntu0.10.04.1
[15:46] <smoser> yeah, thanks. sorry for being dense
[15:49] <ttx> mathiaz: got 5 min now before the call
[15:49] <mathiaz> ttx: after the call?
[15:49] <ttx> mathiaz: if it finishes early, yes
[15:50] <mathiaz> ttx: or we can cover one topic at least
[15:50] <mathiaz> ttx: mumble
[15:50] <ttx> ack
[15:51] <ttx> my upload rate is so slow I can't upload my merges
[15:55] <soren> ttx: Do it from chinstrap.
[15:56] <kirkland> Daviey: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/444079/
[15:56] <kirkland> Daviey: i *think* your error is there
[15:57] <soren> ttx: So just get the upstream tarball from Debian or whatnot, and then rsync your diff.gz .dsc and .changes to chinstrap and upload from there.
[15:58] <Daviey> kirkland: but other instances DO get an address.. which is an odd thing
[15:58] <Daviey> i think that might be another issue, but not the primary one
[16:01] <ttx> soren: yep, that's my backup plan
[16:01] <ttx> soren: but still, this upload rate needs to be fixed :)
[16:01] <ttx> soren: strangely, all the village is affected... and calls me.
[16:01] <soren> ttx: Hahah :)
[16:02] <soren> ttx: Assuming it's your fault or because they think you can fix it?
[16:02] <soren> Or both? :)
[16:02] <ttx> soren: they think they can't send email with attachments anymore
[16:02]  * soren chuckles
[16:03] <ttx> soren: I'd assume high packet loss on upstream, resulting in connections dying over time
[16:03] <grante> Is us.archive.ubuntu.com excrutiatingly slow for everyone or just me today?
[16:03] <ttx> soren: I wish they would replace our telecom center with something modern
[16:04] <ScottK> grante: Maverick Alpha 1 was released today and is getting some downloads.  It's not just you.
[16:05] <grante> ScottK: ah, that's why.  Trying to install packages at like 10kB/s when it connects at all.  Gonna be a long day then.
[16:08] <ttx> Daviey, kirkland, mathiaz: please take ownership of 1-2 bugs each in https://launchpad.net/server-papercuts/+milestone/maverick-alpha-2 ... first come first serve :)
[16:09] <kirkland> ttx: done
[16:09] <ttx> kirkland: thanks !
[16:10] <AlexMax> I'm having an issue with alias networking interfaces automatically starting on boot.  My /etc/network/interfaces is here: http://bpaste.net/show/OMsfA0tyAgjt7Lyspjsq/
[16:10] <AlexMax> eth0 starts up automatically
[16:10] <AlexMax> however eth0:0 and eth0:1 do not
[16:10] <AlexMax> and thus my web servers do not start either
[16:10] <AlexMax> since it can't bind to .227 and .228
[16:11] <grante> AlexMax, you have auth instead of auto
[16:11] <grante> for the two aliases
[16:11] <AlexMax> grante: ... you're completely right and I feel very foolish
[16:11] <grante> AlexMax:  that's the kind of typo that can stare you in the face for days without noticing it.  I've done it myself.
[16:27] <diago> is there a way to purge apt-proxy of current info, my virts are complaining about a bad header file
[16:29] <webPragmatist> hrm
[16:31] <gnoob> hi guys :)  my swapdisk went hunting buffaloes on the eternal happy hunting grounds..   Will my linux server boot without a possible swaparea?  :)
[16:32]  * ccheney is working on doing a reinstall of the dell laptops right now :)
[16:32] <webPragmatist> Is there a how-to go from Standalone state with DRBD to online properly
[16:34] <webPragmatist> i'm trying to do connect and it wont
[16:36] <heeecht> gday. do i need to activate BIOS RAID for having 2 SATA disks?
[16:37] <heeecht> My LVM crashes if I add 2nd disk to computer, if I remove it again... Ubuntu server start again. What do I wrong?
[16:37] <webPragmatist> okay wait
[16:38] <webPragmatist> i got it back to WFConnection status
[16:40] <heeecht> Need a LVM/Ubuntu 10.04 guru! Server won't boot with 2nd SATA disk inserted. LVM cant find old PV. I just get the BusyBox
[16:42] <gnoob> arrgh  the only thing that happens when I boot is that I get a blinking cursor..  What could be wrong guys??  I got a ureadahead error some trys ago.. Now I booted with live cd and removed the failed disks from fstab. The disk with boot partition and boot flag is operative.  what could be wrong.. :\
[16:43] <grante> heeecht: still works if you unplug the second disk?
[16:43] <grante> heeecht: if so, try swaping sata ports.
[16:43] <webPragmatist> okay
[16:43] <webPragmatist> where in the world is the drbd log >.<
[16:44] <heeecht> grante: yes, if sata unplugged it works again. will change ports....
[16:47] <heeecht> grante: first I just disconnected 2nd SATA HDD and took this cable and mounted it on 1st SATA. Starts correctly on SATA port 2. Will try to add 2nd on 1st port.
[16:52] <heeecht> grante: done. guess you're my hero for today. IT STARTS!! Any explanation for this?
[16:53] <webPragmatist> how do i cofigure where root@localhost goes?
[16:53] <webPragmatist> email
[16:54] <grante> heeecht: some bios number the sata drives weird...their location can change when you add a drive.
[16:54] <hallyn> webPragmatist: man aliases i believe
[16:55] <webPragmatist> hallyn: okay i'll take a look…
[16:55] <heeecht> grante: thanks really very much. do you have also experience in LVM (expecially how to add a 2nd and bigger drive?)
[16:58] <grante> heeecht: a bit, but not enough to walk you through it
[16:59] <heeecht> grante: thanks, I will RTFM again.
[17:07] <webPragmatist> uhhggggggg
[17:07] <webPragmatist> wtf
[17:10] <webPragmatist> why is the dumb thing always split brain
[17:11] <webPragmatist> i need some serious crm brain downloadness
[17:21] <heeecht> Need assistance on how to add 2nd SATA disk to LVM on ubuntu server 10.04
[17:22] <Tyeu> I'm getting this networking error: http://pastebin.com/5TtNRzDD
[17:22] <Tyeu> Networking issue. can someone help?
[17:22] <ccheney> kirkland, ping
[17:23] <kirkland> ccheney: pong
[17:23] <ccheney> kirkland, did you see the post on ubuntu-devel-discuss list yet?
[17:23] <kirkland> ccheney: regarding?
[17:24] <ccheney> "Why do some updates skip proposed? (launchpad bug 589163)" kvm broken on kernel upgrade
[17:24] <ccheney> "The kernel released for lucid last night (2.6.32-22.35) broke kvm guests - prevented them from starting"
[17:25] <debfx> could you please rebuild apr? bug #589158
[17:39] <Kyle__> Hullo
[17:39] <Kyle__> What's the preferred method for setting services to come up on boot?
[17:39] <Kyle__> My dhcp server isn't starting automaticaly.
[17:41] <webPragmatist> using init.d ?
[17:41] <webPragmatist> that should be configured by default
[17:42] <webPragmatist> are drbd configurations supposed to be shared?
[17:43] <Kyle__> webPragmatist: Supposed to be, but isn't coming up on boot.  Runnign "service dhcp3-server start" works fine though.
[17:43] <webPragmatist> is there an init.d?
[17:44] <webPragmatist> it says "synchronize your /etc/drbd.conf file between both nodes"
[17:45] <webPragmatist> guess i need to sync it with csync
[17:46] <Kyle__> webPragmatist: Yup.  It's in init.d, and there's a symlink to it in rc2.d.
[17:46] <Kyle__> ...on a sidenote, does this mean ubuntu gave up on upstart?
[17:47] <webPragmatist> something like that… i dunno sorry
[17:47] <webPragmatist> check your /var/log/messages maybe?
[17:48] <Kyle__> webPragmatist: nothing in /var/log/messages, but a few peeps in /var/log/syslog
[17:49] <ccheney> Kyle__, nope, it just means not everything has been converted over yet
[17:49] <Kyle__> webPragmatist: however, other than complaining "Can't open /etc/dhcp3/rndc.key: Permission denied", I don't see much.
[17:49] <Kyle__> ccheney: Ahh.  Shame.  Never was much of a fan of it, I'd be glad to see it's backside :)
[17:52] <pmatulis> Kyle__: are you using a bridge by any chance?
[17:53] <Kyle__> pmatulis: Nope. Plain old nic, no special config.
[17:53] <webPragmatist> efffff
[17:55] <pmatulis> Kyle__: and static of course?
[17:55] <Kyle__> pmatulis: Yes.
[17:55] <Kyle__> Ahh, I got it.
[17:55] <pmatulis> Kyle__: huh?
[17:55] <pmatulis> webPragmatist: still in trouble?
[17:55] <Kyle__> This is werid.  So it complained about the rndc.key having the wrong permissions, but running /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server start worked.
[17:55] <webPragmatist> pmatulis: mostly
[17:55] <pmatulis> webPragmatist: :(
[17:56] <Kyle__> And running service dhcp3-server start worked....but it wouldn't start on boot, until I fixed that permission issue.
[17:56] <webPragmatist> i'm getting somewhere… just  trying to figure out how to autoresolve splitbrain now
[17:56] <pmatulis> Kyle__: ok, good to know.  all sorted then?
[17:56] <webPragmatist> tbh i don't really know what it's doing lol
[17:57] <pmatulis> webPragmatist: not a good feeling
[17:58] <Kyle__> pmatulis: yup.  I'm just rather surprised that's what it was.  I'm used to "if it works from init.d, it will work on boot".
[17:58] <pmatulis> Kyle__: right, that's sound logic
[17:59] <Kyle__> Guess it's time to file a bug.
[18:00] <pmatulis> Kyle__: seconded. i would call it bug material
[18:00]  * ccheney bbl, lunch
[18:02] <webPragmatist> despite stickiness being set… it insists on switching nodes
[18:02]  * webPragmatist bangs head on desk
[18:03] <webPragmatist> i think it's because the drbd goes down on split brain so it freaks
[18:16] <webPragmatist> yea crap
[18:20] <pmatulis> webPragmatist: how are you connecting your two machines?
[18:22] <webPragmatist> I'm not exactly sure what is going on but it works fine during the failure….. but when i bring the node back up I only have a guess as to what it does
[18:22] <webPragmatist> pmatulis: it's just two nodes, drbd. master/slave
[18:22] <gnoob> Guys,,   on a ubuntu 10.09 server in production.. whats the best way of keeping it up to date?  aptitude upgrade og safe-upgrade?
[18:22] <pmatulis> webPragmatist: right, but physically how?
[18:22] <webPragmatist> uhhh
[18:23] <webPragmatist> they are vms
[18:23] <webPragmatist> for the time being
[18:23] <pmatulis> webPragmatist: hypervisor?
[18:23] <webPragmatist> no parallels
[18:23] <webPragmatist> i'm on mac
[18:23] <pmatulis> oh
[18:23] <smoser> gnoob, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/UsingDevelopmentReleases
[18:23] <webPragmatist> I think I know what's going on but i'm not completely sure
[18:24] <pmatulis> webPragmatist: it's important that there be no network latency and such.  VMs can be weird.  cannot try on metal?
[18:24] <gnoob> anyone knowing if uninstalling ureadahead is a good idea on a server?  I dont really need the speedy boot, and I would think uninstalling it would be a good idea to eliminate a risk of boot problems.. ?? what do you think guys ?
[18:24] <gnoob> thanks smoser
[18:24] <webPragmatist> pmatulis: ….. crm isn't THAT fast
[18:24] <webPragmatist> and that's NOT the issue
[18:24] <pmatulis> ok ok
[18:25] <webPragmatist> it's what the crm is doing that is stupid
[18:25] <webPragmatist> i'll try to explain
[18:26] <webPragmatist> I think when the node comes back up drbd freaks and notices that there are two Primaries… and doesn't have enough time to resolve it and then the crm freaks because drbd set disk to "disconnected" and switches nodes… meanwhile all of the drbd disks are now in standalone
[18:27] <webPragmatist> it's the auto split brain resolution that I can't figure out
[18:27] <webPragmatist> I'm going to experiment without the crm though… but gotta take a lunch
[18:27] <webPragmatist> all of the tutorials that cover drbd and clusters assume you are just going to resolve the Primary/Primary (split brain) manually
[18:28] <webPragmatist> (or rather they end up not even testing their setup and switching to OCFS and do Active/Active so they allow Primary/Primary)
[18:29] <webPragmatist> when it switches nodes btw it tries to convert the other to primary which has been set to Secondary by drbd...
[18:29] <webPragmatist> that's the kicker… and i think that's really what drops everything to standalone
[18:30] <webPragmatist> i'm sure somewhere out there someone has configured crm (pacemaker) to do this … but this clusterlabs manual without manual split brain resolution doesn't work
[18:31] <webPragmatist> if you are completely lost lol
[18:31] <webPragmatist> http://www.clusterlabs.org/doc/en-US/Pacemaker/1.1/html/Clusters_from_Scratch/ch07s03.html
[18:48] <incorrect> oh great the latest kernel breaks my win7 kvm
[18:50] <webPragmatist> uh oh
[18:57] <pmatulis> incorrect: did you confirm it?
[18:57] <incorrect> pmatulis, not yet
[18:57] <incorrect> i just reverted the kernel back
[18:58] <pmatulis> incorrect: ah
[19:01] <incorrect> it could be that i had p-0.11 set and now lucid has .12
[19:03] <sbeattie> incorrect: is it just win7 vms or all vms? There's a regression for some hardware with kvm and the kernel security update that came out last night (bug 589223)
[19:03] <sbeattie> there's currently a mad scramble to push out a kernel with just the kvm patch backed out.
[19:03] <incorrect> sbeattie, ah, give me a second i have, win2k8r2, lucid i386/amd64
[19:04] <incorrect> sbeattie, i've not tried any of the others, as i finally fixed an issue with win7 32bit guest
[19:05] <incorrect> FYI, do not run the arch type as i686, give win7 32bit a 64bit bit vm
[19:07]  * ccheney back
[19:10] <oru_work> can someone help me with editting a vhost in /etc/sites-available/ ?
[19:11] <guntbert> oru_work: if you don't get help here you can ask in #httpd too
[19:12] <oru_work> okay
[19:13] <webPragmatist> oru_work: just check out the default one that should get you started
[19:14] <webPragmatist> after you change it if it's not enabled do a2ensite otherwise just /etc/init.d/apache2 reload
[19:15] <bcessa> hi there, I'm having a extrange problem, I just install a 10.04 server and turn ufw default deny, then open ports for several services like http, ftp, etc, everything works fine, but using FTP it drops the connection when entering passive mode, any ideas about this?
[19:15] <bcessa> I also notice that trying to run apt-get update don't work with that firewall configuration, don't know what's missing :o
[19:16] <webPragmatist> that?
[19:16] <AlexMax> I'm unable to connect to my ubuntu server from my android phone.  How can I tell what IP's are currently being blacklisted/blocked/whatever by ufw?
[19:16] <webPragmatist> through vnc?
[19:16] <webPragmatist> oh
[19:16] <webPragmatist> ufw
[19:18] <RoyK> AlexMax: ufw status
[19:19] <incorrect> i have a weird project to do over the next week,  I am going to sign up for ~40 ubuntu vm's around the globe,  I will add monitoring to these nodes, latency, uptime etc,  would anyone find it useful if i published this info?
[19:19] <AlexMax> RoyK: So ufw doesn't have any sort of weird filtering going on by default
[19:19] <AlexMax> guess it's verizon and not me
[19:20] <incorrect> AlexMax, to check your rules use iptables-save
[19:20] <incorrect> i find that easier to read
[19:20] <incorrect> or iptables -L
[19:21] <AlexMax> oh god there's rules everywhere D:
[19:21] <webPragmatist> o.O
[19:21] <incorrect> oh noes
[19:21] <webPragmatist> ugh
[19:21] <webPragmatist> my ears just got pwned by avril lavigne
[19:21] <incorrect> this is why i write iptables rules by hand :)
[19:21] <webPragmatist> stupid pandora
[19:21] <AlexMax> yeah i should do that sometime
[19:21]  * incorrect gives webPragmatist some liquid plaster filler, 
[19:22] <AlexMax> ufw doesn't play nice with things like fail2ban anyway
[19:22] <RoyK> AlexMax: iptables -vnL
[19:22] <webPragmatist> ohhhhhhhhh
[19:22] <webPragmatist> universal firewall
[19:22] <webPragmatist> i just got that
[19:22] <webPragmatist> thanks
[19:22] <webPragmatist> never used it
[19:23] <jdstrand> AlexMax: it should play fine with it. it uses its own tables
[19:24] <jdstrand> AlexMax: I've not done it personally, but the design for the default install is to not blow away other rules, etc
[19:24] <AlexMax> webPragmatist: Uncomplicated Firewall
[19:24] <webPragmatist> i don't believe it
[19:24] <jdstrand> AlexMax: that is true in later versions anyway-- hardy definitely not-- it will blow away stuff
[19:25]  * jdstrand can't remember what version that changed in... I'm thinking jaunty...
[19:28] <bcessa> any ideas about this?
[19:30] <steven_t> ugh
[19:30] <steven_t> apt-get doesnt keep track of what versions its installed of something, does it?
[19:30] <RoyK> bcessa: a quick google http://beginlinux.com/blog/2009/10/ubuntu-9-10-ftp-connections/
[19:30] <steven_t> i have no idea which mod_wsgi i installe a month ago :/
[19:33] <bcessa> ok, thnx, I'll keep looking at this
[19:33] <bcessa> cya
[19:34] <kirkland> Daviey: okay, i'm back online now
[19:45] <smoser> ccheney, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC/Tips
[19:48] <Daviey> kirkland: hey.. do you want access back?
[19:50] <kirkland> Daviey: not necessarily
[19:50] <kirkland> Daviey: let's just get the bug filed; link to it in the ISO tracker
[19:50] <kirkland> Daviey: it might be related to this kvm/kernel issue
[19:55] <webPragmatist> any of you familiar with using drbd
[19:56] <oru_work> how would I get a subdomain to resolve to the ip of my server?
[19:56] <webPragmatist> http://pastie.textmate.org/private/ngv5dso8yqcg9km2gqkfa
[19:56] <webPragmatist> oru_work: use /etc/host
[19:56] <webPragmatist> s
[19:56] <webPragmatist> oru_work: use /etc/hosts
[19:57] <oru_work> webPragmatist, thanks any service needs to be restarted after making changes to /etc/hosts ?
[19:57] <kirkland> Daviey: i'll try deploying UEC Maverick here tomorrow
[19:58] <webPragmatist> oru_work: no
[19:59] <Daviey> kirkland: ok.. i don't think that kernel issues is related tbh
[20:00] <webPragmatist> http://www.drbd.org/users-guide/s-configure-split-brain-behavior.html
[20:00] <webPragmatist> discard-younger-primary
[20:00] <Daviey> kirkland: starting kvm on it's on on the maverick nc works as expected
[20:00] <Daviey> it's a euca' issue, i'm pretty sure
[20:01] <webPragmatist> if i am using pacemaker to swap roles… and I only have two nodes…. how which should i choose to just "use the newly formed primary"
[20:01] <ccheney> smoser, like this? CLEAN=1 /etc/init.d/eucalyptus restart
[20:01] <smoser> no
[20:01] <smoser> stop eucalyptus CLEAN=1
[20:01] <smoser> start eucalyptus CLEAN=1
[20:03] <kirkland> Daviey: okay, this euca is basically identical to that in Lucid, right?
[20:03] <kirkland> Daviey: we haven't merged kvm, libvirt, or eucalyptus yet for Maverick
[20:13] <ccheney> smoser, seems to be more complicated than just changing the ip and cleaning, unless i also need to do a clean or something like that on the NC
[20:14] <smoser> its worth a try, but i wouldn't have thought you would have to.
[20:14] <smoser> give it a try
[20:14] <ccheney> smoser, the CC thinks 10.0.0.32 is assigned to the instance but ping doesn't work
[20:14] <ccheney> smoser, ok
[20:15] <webPragmatist> where can i find the corosync logs
[20:16] <webPragmatist> or rather where do i set the path to them
[20:16] <webPragmatist> I have a /var/log/corosync but nothing is inside
[20:19] <webPragmatist> weird
[20:20] <webPragmatist> ahhhh hrm
[20:22]  * ccheney thinks he will just try blowing it away and reinstalling, heh, clean on NC didn't seem to help 
[20:22] <oru_work> webPragmatist, can you help me make the domain resolve to the ip of my server ?
[20:22] <oru_work> webPragmatist, not really sure what i'm doing wrong here
[20:22] <webPragmatist> oru_work: are you talking about another server?
[20:22] <webPragmatist> or just one?
[20:23] <oru_work> webPragmatist, just one :)
[20:23] <webPragmatist> then you just modify /etc/hosts
[20:23] <webPragmatist> 10.0.0.1	mydomain.local	somealias.local	etc...
[20:24] <webPragmatist> save close done
[20:24] <webPragmatist> it's official
[20:24] <webPragmatist> drbd is an epic pain in the recutm
[20:24] <webPragmatist> rectum even
[21:04] <webPragmatist> man i'm having a problem where when the failing node comes back up it automatically chooses that node instead of staying even with stickiness set.
[21:07] <corpse> i am having problems connecting to my ftp server. I can connect to it localy by i can not when i use the external ip
[21:09] <corpse> i have all my ports forwarded and i belive no firewalls are running
[21:09] <a3ist> anyone recommend a guide for or know the best way to set up ubuntu server 10.04 with x & some window managers installed as a multihead server for several different users, one plugged in and the rest over the LAN?
[21:09] <jpds> corpse: Is the FTP server listening on 0.0.0.0:21 ?
[21:10] <cloakable> corpse: Are you connecting to the external ip from the LAN?
[21:11] <corpse> cloakable: yes and no, i  have tryed from this pc (wich is on the lan) and from my cell phone using the 3g. same resaults
[21:11] <cloakable> corpse: hmmm
[21:11] <corpse> jpds: i a not sure, for the life of my i cannot find a config file that will let me specify ip port etc
[21:12] <corpse> when i use filezilla i get connection refused
[21:12] <jpds> corpse: sudo netstat -ltnp
[21:14] <corpse> jpds: pure-ftpd is listening on 0.0.0.0:21
[21:14] <jpds> corpse: Anything in /var/log/auth.log or syslog
[21:14] <jpds> ?
[21:16] <corpse> auth.log has a lot of cron sesions opend ad losed for root and a few postfix/smtpd references
[21:22] <corpse> syslog dosnt seem to have any useful info
[21:22] <CaptainTrek> question: i'm ssh'd into my VPS, where can I change what DNS servers it uses for DNS?
[21:24] <guntbert> CaptainTrek: /etc/resolv.conf
[21:24] <CaptainTrek> ty
[21:24] <ccheney> got it working and running an instance i can log into now :)
[21:25] <CaptainTrek> guntbert:  its got a nameserver <IP> entry, do i just put another nameserver <IP> entry on the next line to make a secondary DNS server used?
[21:26] <guntbert> CaptainTrek: yes, but that 2nd NS is only used when the first one doesn't respond at all
[21:27] <corpse> is there a better server i can use then pure-ftpd?
[21:27] <CaptainTrek> guntbert:  would the second namserver be used if the first one doesn't have an entry?
[21:29] <guntbert> CaptainTrek: you can always remove the first line (or shove it down) - its entirely your choice as owner of the system
[21:29] <CaptainTrek> guntbert:  alrighty :)
[21:31] <webPragmatist> any drbd / pacemakers can check this http://old.nabble.com/DRBD-and-Pacemaker-configuration-td28772524.html
[21:31] <webPragmatist> to see what i'm doing wrong
[21:38] <kirkland> smoser: yo!
[21:38] <smoser> hey
[21:38] <kirkland> smoser: i see you have a virtio/eucalyptus patch
[21:38] <smoser> yeah.
[21:39] <kirkland> smoser: rock, you da man
[21:39] <kirkland> smoser: we need to get that uploaded to maverick
[21:40] <kirkland> smoser: i'd do it myself, but i don't want to stomp on daviey's merge
[21:40] <smoser> yeah, i talked to him some today about it.
[21:40] <smoser> he was asking if we should try to get Eucalyptus to take it first
[21:40] <smoser> due to his large ste of patches
[21:40] <smoser> i think its just "take it now"
[21:41] <smoser> they may do a better job, but this will get us functional with virtio right now
[21:41] <smoser> and from the guests perspective later things shouldn't change
[21:48] <webPragmatist> what is this vick's vapor rub you all speak of
[21:55] <ccheney> kirkland, for 567371 i need to install the proposed update and then run the test scripts overnight, right?
[21:57] <webPragmatist> either of you know how to do pacemaker clusters?
[22:07] <kirkland> ccheney: that would be good
[22:07] <ccheney> kirkland, what is the location for the tests?
[22:29] <ccheney> kirkland, ping ^ ?
[23:01] <webPragmatist> is it recommended to use deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ha/lucid-cluster/ubuntu lucid main for your prod box?
[23:01] <webPragmatist> i can't get the ocfs2 pacemaker library otherwise
[23:22]  * ccheney off to dinner
[23:40] <Daviey> kirkland: smoser and I already talked about it..
[23:40] <Daviey> smoser: I mentioned that we should try and get it upstream concurrently
[23:41] <Daviey> bah, scrollback delay
[23:41] <Daviey> i see he filled you in
[23:43] <orudie> Greetings. I just downloaded a .run file TeamSpeak3-Client-linux_x86-3.0.0-beta21.run
[23:43] <orudie> not sure how to install it