[00:00] that's what I thought [00:07] Anyone know of any software that handles project management by job or case; for a lawyer or consultant for instance. I used a windows program called ACT! once it was horrible but I liked the idea. [00:08] open source of course [00:11] ive only used a few terrible tools [00:11] what's the difference [00:11] between a project and a case? [00:11] none that I know of I was just throwing out some synonyms [00:12] hoping it would ring a bell [00:12] personally i just use evolution tasks [00:12] but i guess you want something with gantt charts? [00:13] they would be nice but not immediatly necessary [00:13] uhhhhhh [00:13] wow [00:13] redmine? [00:13] !info redmine [00:13] redmine (source: redmine): flexible project management web application. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.9.3-1 (lucid), package size 1377 kB, installed size 10844 kB [00:14] !info opensched [00:14] opensched (source: opensched): Tool for project management. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.4-6 (lucid), package size 344 kB, installed size 724 kB [00:15] cool thanks [00:15] baobao: is that the sort of thing you're after? [00:15] maybe [00:16] I want to be able to attach emails scans and other documents to a case and then track time spent on each case, and have a task manager /calender, and billing info [00:17] Looking them up on the web now [00:17] so you want project management and content management [00:18] I guess... Im not really sure what to call it [00:18] thats why I was having trouble searching for it [00:19] http://demo.redmine.org/ [00:19] redmine looks good at first glance :) [00:20] redmine looks like it might fit if you translate software engineering to law [00:20] s/ticket/case/ [00:20] Yeah I think the workflow is about the same just a different language [00:21] heh [00:21] i have an amusing idea [00:21] en-law [00:21] english law? [00:21] inlaws? [00:21] as in l10n [00:22] it has different languages support [00:22] so invent en-law [00:22] :) [00:22] except instead of translating to chinese or esperanto, you just translate to english law [00:22] so "ticket" becomes "case", etc [00:24] that could work [00:25] if i have a drbd , on is uptodate , other is outofdate [00:25] how do i just make them sync [00:25] i have connected both but they have WFConnection status [00:29] Okay, I think I've isolated the problem I'm having with curl to a set of C preprocessor items that indicates which time facility is in use. Given that, if I cna find someone to help me find the usage on Ubuntu, I can determine which state it has, and perhaps at least write a bug for this. [00:29] I'll leave this on for a bit so perhaps I can fish one of you up...and will try to reply promptly. [00:30] This is the source file in question: curl-7.20.1/src$ ls curlutil.c [00:30] curlutil.c [00:30] I pulled it off the HAXX site. [00:35] what is this new Reserved BIOS boot area all about? [00:38] anyone know how to get/install gcc 3.4 on lucid? [00:50] n [00:50] o [00:51] kd o analista de fezes??????????? [00:51] kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk [00:51] pidgin pidgin alguém ligou pra mim [00:52] Alguem pode me ajudar? [00:53] psgvaz: English, please [01:16] If I want raid and LVM, do I do a software raid and then put LVM partitions on it, or is there "raid lvm" partitions that are specific to LVM? [01:26] osmosis: what level of raid? [01:26] hggdh: i think it's what i sent you last week, that you commented on [01:28] kirkland: ah, OK. I was not sure this was the final form [01:38] pmatulis, raid 1 software [01:39] looks like its always just LVM on top of software raid. [01:42] why does the server installer prompt me for a postfix mail configuration, when I never selected mail server? [01:45] what is this new BIOS reserved partition? and does it work automatically with a raid1 ? [01:51] Hello [01:56] osmosis: yes, for raid 1 choose raid and then put lvm on top. note that lvm itself has raid 1 integrated but it needs to be configured prior to install if applying it towards the system partitions === unreal_ is now known as unreal [02:11] Okay, I think I've isolated the problem I'm having with curl to a set of C preprocessor items that indicates which time facility is in use. Given that, if I cna find someone to help me find the usage on Ubuntu, I can determine which state it has, and perhaps at least write a bug for this. [02:11] I'll leave this on for a bit so perhaps I can fish one of you up...and will try to reply promptly. [02:11] curlutil.c [02:11] This is the source file in question: curl-7.20.1/src$ ls curlutil.c [02:11] I'll leave this on for a bit so perhaps I can fish one of you up...and will try to reply promptly. === unreal_ is now known as unreal [02:20] ccheney: any progress on those eucalyptus SRUs today? [04:00] Is it possible to use a USB jump drive to boot the installer for Ubuntu Server Lucid, or do I have to use the CD? I have tried making the USB drive bootable on both Windows and on my Ubuntu netbook, but neither worked. [04:07] Not if you're that impatient. [04:11] twb: come now, why do you expect people to have patience these days? [04:12] Only if they want answers [04:13] just over three minutes [04:13] sadly, I've seen far worse [04:14] average attention span is about 30 seconds on IRC [04:18] Look, a bunny rabbit [04:33] kirkland, hi responding to your email [04:33] ccheney: thanks === pgraner is now known as pgraner-afk [04:46] kirkland, i added myself to the conference page for my two [04:57] I installed Ubuntu Server 10.04 without any errors. It told me the installation completed fine, and to restart. I took my USB jump drive out that had the boot image on it, and restarted. The computer restarted, booted to the hard drive, but then went to a black screen with a CLI that said "Gave up waiting for root device," "ALERT! /dev/mapper/server-root does not exist. Dropping to a shell!" Any ideas on what went wrong? [05:06] The immediate issue is that it can't find your LV [05:06] what is that? [05:06] Where your OS lives [05:06] well that can't be good.. [05:06] what should i do? [05:06] IMO the most likely case is that your USB hard drive was considered the "first" drive at install time. [05:07] Thus your normal hard disk was the "second" disk, but now it's the "first" one, but grub is still looking for a second disk [05:07] oh so should i move the BIOS first boot device to the hard drive instead of usb [05:08] TheWeslry: it depends precisely how it failed. [05:08] TheWeslry: please get to the busybox shell, and pastebin the contents of /proc/cmdline and the last column of /proc/partitions. [05:09] ok i'm at the shell, and i don't have much experience in CLI, i'm more of a GUI person.. but I'll try my best [05:10] it said Permission denied [05:10] You need to type "cat /proc/cmdline", without the double-quotes [05:11] BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-2.6.32-21-generic-pae root=/dev/mapper/server-root ro quiet [05:11] thats all it said [05:12] OK, and now /proc/partitions [05:13] that came up with a list of partitions.. and i don't know how to pastebin.. [05:13] Just list them on one line [05:15] 8 0 78150744 sda | 8 1 48832 sda1 | 8 2 1 sda2 | 8 5 77899776 sda5 | 251 0 76402688 dm-0 | 251 1 495040 dm-1 | [05:15] OK, now tell me what "lvm2 lvs" and "lvm2 pvs" say [05:16] o dpm [05:16] i don't see them [05:16] They're commands, not files [05:16] Don't put "cat" in front [05:16] oh. sorry. i'm new to this stuff. [05:17] ok lvm2 lvs was not found, but i mistyped the first time as just lvm lvs, and it came up with root server -wi-q- 7.86g [05:17] Hm. [05:17] sqap_1 server -wi-1- 1.43g [05:18] swap, not sqap [05:18] Well, that says it's working [05:18] the pvs says /dev/sda5 server lvm2 a- 74.29g [05:18] So I don't know what's going on [05:19] ...reinstall maybe? [05:19] I doubt that'll help [05:19] Run "vol_id /dev/mapper/server-root" [05:20] vol_id: not found [05:20] Damn, what is it... [05:21] Try blkid [05:21] it could be that I built this rig in 2002.. [05:21] all it shows is > [05:21] TheWeslry: most of our gear is Pentium IIIs... [05:21] wow.. you win lol [05:21] TheWeslry: I meant "blkid /dev/mapper/server-root" [05:22] i know, but no matter what i type, it goes to a new line that just says > instead of (initramfs) [05:22] Hit Ctrl+d [05:22] You're inside the blkid prompt because you ran it without an argument. [05:23] now it says bklid not found [05:23] You misspelt it. [05:23] Get back to the busybox prompt with Ctrl+d or Ctrl+c, then type "blkid /dev/mapper/server-root" [05:23] (It looks like vol_id is an 8.04ism) [05:24] it just changed to a different screen that says server login: [05:24] i didn't press anything though.. [05:24] Oh, right. That means you've exited busybox and somehow finished booting [05:24] But I bet if you reboot you'll still be dropped into busybox [05:25] well i logged in.. [05:25] If you reboot and it Just Works, it means we've been wasting time because the issue was transient. [05:25] ok i'll reboot [05:26] i used one of the only commands i know.. "sudo shutdown -r now" i figured thats safer than holding the power button. [05:26] yep i'm back in busybox [05:26] It is definitely better for the system [05:27] i did your blkid /dev/mapper/server-root and it just said a new blank line [05:27] well not blank, it says (initramfs) [05:28] Hm [05:28] You should get something more like this [05:28] /dev/sda2: LABEL="dali" UUID="9e52b2e5-1ca6-4413-9b7b-7f8bafeb75c9" UUID_SUB="2216f102-d37e-4d51-a2db-d68d8669a0aa" TYPE="btrfs" [05:29] hmm. it worked the second time.. [05:29] it says /dev/mapper/server-root" UUID="93a0c9d4-3d60-4f27-9e69-fed6c7375ccf" TYPE="ext4" [05:33] i'm guessing the "ext4" means it was external.. maybe my USB drive? [05:34] No, it's the filesystem type. [05:34] It probably means "extended" [05:35] oh okay. i used FAT when i installed i think [05:35] The root system can't be FAT, it lacks necessary features. [05:35] oaky maybe not [05:35] You might've used FAT for the install media [05:36] yea my usb drive is fay [05:36] fat* [05:36] Well, I am pretty much out of ideas. [05:36] well thanks for trying though [05:36] The only thing I can suggest is to pass rootdelay= to make it fail faster, or rootdelay= in the hope that it's just taking a little too long [05:37] Where numbers are in seconds [05:37] Say 5 and 600 (10 minutes) respectively. [05:37] okay how would i enter that? just rootdelay=5? [05:38] At the grub prompt, you edit the kernel parameter line (the one with "quiet" on it) to add that option [05:38] grub should prompt you in a fairly self-explanatory way [05:39] i don't think mine even has a grum prompt.. it's the only os on the computer [05:40] It will still prompt you [05:41] okay so i'll reboot and try that [05:42] are there any special settings for download packages using apt-get on LucidLynx Server? I have a server running in VirtualBOX on which i have internet connectivity( i can ping google) but iam unable to to connect to Ubuntu's package repo. I have my internet connection via an ISA Proxy server... i have that taken care of [05:43] the only thing that shows up when i reboot is a blinking cursor. i think my momitor loads too slow to even see the post screen [05:43] austinium: does normal browsing work within your server VM? [05:43] twb:i dont GUI on it [05:43] TheWeslry: ok, just hit ESC [05:43] austinium: only crap browsers require a GUI [05:44] austinium: you should have w3m installed already [05:44] Or you could try wget [05:44] twb: hehe...iam new to this, trying w3m now [05:44] when i press escape. it says ^[ [05:44] twb: i can ping google.com [05:45] TheWeslry: that means you're already too far [05:45] ok i'll retry [05:45] TheWeslry: grub happens before the kernel loads [05:45] austinium: well, perhaps, but does HTTP work? [05:47] i've tried like four times, and right after the post screen i press escape, nothing happens. it goes straight to busybox [05:47] Er, by "POST screen" you mean the BIOS? [05:48] yea sorry [05:48] OK, I can't explain that. [05:48] well.. no [05:48] to go into the bios, i press DEL [05:49] the post screen is the first thing that shows up on my copmuter. it shows the different ide drives and what buttons to press to go into bios and to select the boot device [05:52] twb: whats the syntax for -pauth? [05:53] austinium: I don't know what you're talking about. [05:53] twb: on w3m [05:53] twb: i have internet access via Proxy server [05:53] Well, the manpage says -pauth user:pass [05:54] twb: yes i did try that w3m -pauth username:password [05:54] twb: with the actual username & password [05:54] twb:it doesn't seem to workj [05:54] Note tihat, IIRC, apt-get doesn't support the non-shit proxy authentication method (DIGEST?) [05:54] austinium: you could try curl or wget, to examine the interaction at the protocol level. [05:57] i'm just going to try to re-install. maybe i'll have better luck this time. [06:01] Pessoal tira uma duvida por favor... to querendo instalar o driver vga do meu pc e nao consigo achar.? [06:01] twb: wget works [06:01] ? [06:02] austinium: what auth method does your proxy use? [06:02] ISA [06:03] well i know that its an ISA proxy [06:03] Erm. [06:03] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISA_Server ? [06:04] Woof, that looks unpleasantly hairy. [06:04] twb: i'll try to figure that out, i didnt setup the proxy server [06:04] You could just ask your sysadmin [06:04] Also, when you set your proxy in /etc/apt/apt.conf, you can try changing http://example.net to http://user:pass@example.net [06:05] If that works, I guess you don't need to care about how the proxy works [06:06] twb: i dont have a file names /etc/apt/apt.conf [06:06] named# [06:10] So how are you telling apt-get to use your proxy? [06:13] i export http_proxy [06:13] OK, so change it there instead [06:14] twb i have this setup on Lenny, i have ntlmaps proxy server running on local host port 5865 [06:14] so i set http_proxy to point there [06:14] apt-get works fine then ( on Lenny) [06:15] If works for Lenny, it should also work for Lucid. [06:16] yeah and that whats got me all confused here [06:16] Do you get an error from apt? [06:17] yes [06:17] Pastebin them [06:17] failed to fetch ... [06:17] yeah just a sec [06:17] Pastebin the entire transcript of "apt-get update" if you can do so easily. [06:21] twb: pastebin.com/ai5prrQN [06:22] Could not connect to security.ubuntu.com:80 (91.189.88.37). - connect (113: No route to host) [06:22] ...it's not usinga proxy [06:22] Probably sudo is stripping your http_proxy environment variable. [06:23] Try sudo env http_proxy=http://user:pass@example.net/ apt-get update [06:24] twb: thank you [06:24] twb: this is what is different b/w Lucid & Lenny [06:25] twb: on lenny i do this as su [06:25] Lenny probably has an apt.conf [06:25] Oh. [06:25] twb: here i run apt-get using sudo [06:28] well thanks for the help twb, i'm letting the installer run and i'll check on it later. if i have any problems after this install, i'll come back here. bye [07:08] Good morning [07:45] hi [07:45] I am running out of LAN IPs on dhcp, is there a way to add any new pool of IPs how is it done ? [07:47] I mean on dhcp server [07:49] apt-get install dhcp6 ? :-) [07:50] Hi everyone. I just bought two books: "Linux Server Security: 2nd Edition" and "Hardening Linux". I don't know the first thing about linux security, for that matter about linux, but I am hosting a website on a dedicated server with linux as my server OS (Ubuntu 10.04). I wanted your opinions on which book to read first please? [07:52] MasterZuFu: are they both published by ORA? [07:52] one moment... [07:52] In general, you should favour ORA over Apress over [07:52] O'Reilly and Apress [07:53] I also don't like Apress because they're from the "ragged right" new school of typesetters. [07:53] no idea what that means [07:54] MasterZuFu: they think books are web pages [07:54] quick question that preceeds my actual question: could someone here help me narrow down an issue with my ssh (non-server side, but client side)? [07:54] !anyone [07:54] A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? [07:54] twb: prepare for a long one then (its a paragraph that is NOT spam) [07:54] got an interesting issue. Connecting to my VPS, and its not accepting my public key. server / client side logs are here: http://starfleet.pastebin.com/CD2ziaeX the VPS admin who helped set it up says it might be some issue with seahorse-daemon or gnome-keyring. any help is appreciated. Using: Ubuntu 10.04 [07:55] actually, the server accepts the pubkey [07:55] You can't diagnose "connection refused" issues from the client side. [07:55] the client reads some weird issue [07:55] so, should i read the Apress book first or the O'Reilly book first? twb [07:55] read the pastebin [07:55] OpenSSH deliberately refuses to explain why [07:55] it wasnt conn refused [07:55] MasterZuFu: ORA = O'Reilly [07:55] oh [07:55] lulz [07:55] twb: it wasnt conn refused [07:55] twb: involves public key issues [07:56] Thanks, i'll read that one first then ;) :P [07:56] CaptainTrek: I meant any kind of refusal, including it not accepting your public key [07:56] ... [07:56] CaptainTrek: the best way to find out why it didn't work is to have the other guy check his auth.log [07:56] twb: the data IS from auth.log [07:57] read the pastebin, its got BOTH server AND client [07:57] Oh, sorry, I missed that [07:57] twb: there's a blatant pastebin in there >.> [07:57] Try again with -vvv -oBatchMode=yes and pastebin the result [07:58] Actually, I don't know what the hell "Agent admitted failure to sign using the key." is. [07:58] that's the consensus [07:58] If you still get that, try "gpg-agent ssh -vvv -oBatchMode=yes " [07:58] of you, me, and the hoster (bburhans if you've seen him around on freenode) [07:58] Hopefully that will stick a did new agent in front of your seahorse [07:58] yeah i still get it [07:59] Oops, not gpg-agent [07:59] ssh-agent [07:59] it wont lemme connect with pw or anything else with just the -vvv -oBatchMode=yes added [07:59] The purpose of -oBatchMode=yes is to disable password auth, so that you can concentrate on why keys aren't working. [07:59] ah okay [08:00] twb: will i be quieted if I paste 3 lines into here? [08:00] the data from the first time [08:00] without ssh-agent [08:00] apt-get install pastebinit [08:00] * CaptainTrek just goes to his pastebin [08:00] script -c 'whatever', then pastebinit typescript [08:01] twb: http://starfleet.pastebin.com/a9ThwDkk [08:01] lemme run with ssh-agent now [08:01] now it lets me in with pubkey [08:02] twb: ^^^ [08:02] That's very odd [08:02] Are you foolishly uses a passphraseless key? [08:02] twb: perhaps... [08:02] FYI: the hoster told me not to [08:02] xD [08:02] should I use a passphrased key? [08:02] Well, you're making THEIR system less secure, so it's reasonable for them to tell you not to. [08:03] You can add a passphrase to an existing key [08:03] lol [08:03] help with that plz [08:03] i'm not super with key things [08:03] :) [08:03] Try ssh-keygen -p [08:04] As for the original problem, it's caused by your ssh-agent being retarded. Try uninstalling seahorse, or configuring it correctly (whatever that may mean). [08:04] When I say "your ssh-agent", I mean seahorse, not the ssh-agent *called* ssh-agent. [08:04] of course [08:04] sudo apt-get purge seahorse? [08:04] It probably means adding ~/.ssh/id_rsa to seahorse's keyring or something [08:05] CaptainTrek: yes [08:05] Note that you'll probably need to run "ssh-add" manually to avoid re-typing your passphrase all the time. [08:05] heh [08:05] reinstalling now [08:05] Also, you might want something like gtk-led-askpass to pop up a dialog for passphrase entry [08:06] (Just installing it will suffice to make it work.) [08:06] twb: cant remove without killing ubuntu-desktop [08:06] ubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage [08:06] But if you want to be a bastard, a trick that often works is "sudo dpkg-divert --rename /usr/bin/seahorse" [08:07] ...which will leave it installed, but make attempts to auto-run it fail [08:07] lol [08:07] ubuntu-desktop isnt needed? [08:07] "metapackage" means it just lists a bunch of packages to keep installed [08:07] It doesn't provide anything itself [08:07] so its not needed then [08:09] alrighty, purged, reinstalled, did ssh-add and now it lets it in [08:09] *shrugs* [08:09] twb: thanks for the help, it seems to have resolved itself now [08:19] alrighty more questions, this time configuration [08:19] of sshd [08:20] (1) how do I add a message that pops up upon connect? [08:20] (2) how can I edit the port that sshd listens on? [08:20] and thats it [08:20] :) [08:21] CaptainTrek: "man sshd_config" should answer both of those. You'll be editing /etc/ssh/sshd_config and then "sudo service ssh reload" [08:21] kees: thanks, i keep forgetting bout manpages xD [08:25] hello world !!! [08:25] hi [08:26] rookie: you had a question? [08:27] For "message on connect" you may want /etc/motd instead [08:27] a lotter of question [08:27] :P [08:27] I need to set up a ftp and host [08:27] Every time the server crashes, I plug in a keyboard and monitor, and I hit a key to unblank the screen and figure out what happens, and as soon as I hit a key the machine just reboots. Any ideas? is this normal? [08:27] rookie: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie [08:27] heh [08:28] osmosis: that is not normal. [08:28] just from looking at the URL i think ive found my new cube decoration fro the month [08:28] thks [08:28] osmosis: it is a PS/2 or USB keyboard? [08:34] rookie: unless you have specific needs, FTP is not a good idea [08:34] SCP works pretty much out of the box [08:35] twb, usb [08:35] so, then what u recomend ? [08:36] osmosis: I can't explain that at all. [08:36] rookie: HTTP for read-only access, SFTP for write access. [08:37] ok [08:37] I have set a webside for saturday [08:37] if you have ssh access, you don't need FTP [08:38] so I need answer now !!!! pls [08:39] what are you using for your desktop? [08:39] I need a manual to make that happen, please world help me [08:40] you've already got apache running, right [08:40] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP [08:41] specically, pay attention to the part that says "virtual hosts" [08:42] nop [08:42] thks [08:43] anyone know of a caldav server that supports tasks and work with evolution? [08:46] New bug: #589056 in net-snmp (main) "snmpd fails to upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/589056 [09:11] Hi all, I'm setting up Samba against a Server 2008r2 domain with 2 DC's. In krb5.conf kdc= I need to set the server, but is it possible to set two servers here for failover? [09:12] pwnguin: further, you can hand out SFTP access WITHOUT handing out full SSH access. [09:31] mysql -u root -p [09:31] Enter password: [09:31] ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) [09:45] pwnguin: is "caldav" what I would call "that calendaring crap that my customers insist they need"? [09:45] Booking meetings via email, stuff like that? [10:20] hello. I'm trying to find whatever files on my server point to any other files or directory the the "/root/" directory in it. For example, if a config file has /root/ as a directory for some files, I want to have a list of what files show that. Any idea how to do this? [10:56] Is it possible to construct a network like this?? [10:56] client <----> router <----> server [10:57]