| Sarvatt | hope noone needed to use a PPA :) | 00:07 |
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| Sarvatt | builder rather | 00:07 |
| Sarvatt | https://edge.launchpad.net/builders | 00:08 |
| Sarvatt | lol | 00:08 |
| Sarvatt | ugh, touchpad is SUPER slow after the latest synaptics upgrade. can't adjust it in the mouse capplet | 00:45 |
| Sarvatt | think i'm going to revert http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-input-synaptics/commit/?id=a489ec15eb489a3528f6fee99716f7f4ae35f9ee for now, none of the synclient options change the speed either | 01:01 |
| Sarvatt | ok tested xorg-edgers on 7 machines and they all upgraded from stock fine and work, phew that took all day | 02:23 |
| Sarvatt | now to do it all again in a week when 1.9 branches | 02:46 |
| bjsnider | Sarvatt, is there going to be a mesa update for 10.04.1? fedora's performance is much better | 03:09 |
| Sarvatt | no, 7.7 branch is dead :( | 03:10 |
| RAOF | Define “much better” in such a way that an update fixing performance is sufficiently important :) | 03:11 |
| Sarvatt | RAOF: check the phoronix ubuntu vs fedora article | 03:11 |
| Sarvatt | http://www.phoronix.com/data/img/results/fedora13_vs_ubuntu1004/2.png -- that one especially | 03:14 |
| RAOF | I'm looking at bug #531069, and I'm _sure_ I've seen a relevant commit somewhere, but I can't seem to find it now. Do you have any ideas? | 03:15 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 531069 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "Display error when returning from sleep after docking (affects: 1) (heat: 12)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/531069 | 03:15 |
| Sarvatt | yeah that should be already fixed raof | 03:16 |
| RAOF | In Lucid? | 03:16 |
| Sarvatt | one sec i'll dig up the kernel patch, it was the one they dropped in the 2.6.33 drm backport by mistake and readded just before release | 03:16 |
| Sarvatt | if you ask if they're still experiencing it i'm sure they'll say no | 03:18 |
| Sarvatt | http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-lucid.git;a=commit;h=0d2907f4bead56cff60f91068b3a3efa7149e702 | 03:19 |
| Sarvatt | readded not long after they submitted the bug | 03:19 |
| RAOF | I've also got someone with a similar symptom with what should be an up-to-date lucid; certainly they're using 2.6.32-22 | 03:20 |
| ripps | woo lot of xorg-edgers updates tonight | 03:31 |
| Sarvatt | hah, it'd help if I actually read planet.freedesktop.org this week before complaining about synaptics! http://who-t.blogspot.com/2010/06/new-synaptics-acceleration-mechanism.html | 03:36 |
| Sarvatt | ripps: yeah today was a "fun" day.. lol | 03:36 |
| * RAOF should subscribe to planet.freedesktop.org, really. | 03:36 | |
| bryceh | me too | 03:37 |
| Sarvatt | theres hardly ever any updates on it | 03:37 |
| Sarvatt | that blob post makes it sound like the slowness is at an acceptable level | 03:39 |
| Sarvatt | but we're talking 6 or so swipes full from left to right to move the pointer to the other side of the screen slow | 03:39 |
| Sarvatt | good to know gnome will get updated to adjust it at least, i couldnt figure out the synclient options to make it any faster and the mouse capplet acceleration bar did nothing | 03:41 |
| ripps | There should be some kind of changelog that explains what features xorg-edger has over the default ubuntu version. | 03:41 |
| Sarvatt | its at the top of the ppa description | 03:42 |
| Sarvatt | broken down by release, when i add new things i put it there | 03:42 |
| Sarvatt | it could be a lot better than my disjointed ramblings though :) | 03:43 |
| RAOF | “New stuff” | 03:44 |
| Sarvatt | ripps: i reverted the pointer acceleration stuff he's talking about in that blog post if thats what you meant :D | 03:45 |
| Sarvatt | it was unusably slow on 3 different laptops | 03:45 |
| RAOF | Oh, look at that — displaylink updates! | 03:46 |
| Sarvatt | i guess you could use phoronix as an xorg-edgers changelog | 03:46 |
| Sarvatt | just have to take it with a *big* grain of salt :) | 03:47 |
| Sarvatt | RAOF: where at? | 03:47 |
| RAOF | planet.freedesktop.org | 03:47 |
| RAOF | Specifically: dropping the DDX component in favour of making fbdev slightly better. | 03:48 |
| Sarvatt | yay probably not compatible with what tiago is trying to do to fbdevhw and wont be updated for another year :) | 03:49 |
| Sarvatt | i wish i could pass messages to the package manager letting people choose if they want to uninstall a PPA or keep getting updates if they are using something thats really broken from the updates :) | 03:58 |
| Sarvatt | like say the blobs when i put xserver 1.9 in there | 03:58 |
| RAOF | There was a thread on ubuntu-devel-discuss about roughtly that. | 04:02 |
| RAOF | It could be useful, yeah. | 04:02 |
| Sarvatt | sucks that ricotz's gnome-shell ppa is probably going to be useless for all of maverick, I liked having newer clutter and mutter | 04:25 |
| Sarvatt | glxgears crashes mutter the same way it did metacity, doubt it'd be fixed upstream | 04:25 |
| RAOF | glxgears crashes mutter? | 04:44 |
| RAOF | Who's to blame there? | 04:45 |
| Sarvatt | gtk | 05:53 |
| * RAOF re-reads the above, and find that it makes sense. | 06:05 | |
| RAOF | On the other hand, there's a patch for metacity to make it work, so it's probably pretty easy to make mutter work, too. | 06:06 |
| stenten | If someone boots into a black screen, and then recovers in a tty with 'startx' but not 'sudo service gdm start', should I reassign it to gdm? | 06:37 |
| stenten | Bug #586173 | 06:38 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 586173 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "[i945] intel gma 82945G xorg does not work at boot (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/586173 | 06:38 |
| * RAOF has a look-see | 06:53 | |
| RAOF | stenten: That looks a bit strange. It could well be a gdm bug, but I think it's more likely to be X related. | 07:01 |
| RAOF | stenten: Strange compents include: why is vga16fb being loaded? Is there any difference in X log files between running startx and running “sudo start gdm”? | 07:03 |
| stenten | RAOF: Hmm, I never thought of either of those, thanks. | 07:07 |
| RAOF | vga16fb caused problems early in Lucid; booting with “video=vga16fb:disable” might be an interesting data point. | 07:07 |
| stenten | Never heard of it. I'll have to read up on it some.... In the meantime, I'll make sure to ask for those, thanks. | 07:11 |
| Dr_Jakob | Hmm the dmesg errors are not related to X, something is trying to use 8bit color mode on the framebuffer | 14:29 |
| Dr_Jakob | Sarvatt: ^^ | 14:30 |
| Dr_Jakob | Which we don't support.. | 14:30 |
| cwillu_at_work | isn't plymouth running in 8bit on non-kms drivers? | 14:55 |
| cwillu_at_work | can we enable -nr for omap? works fine if I add pScrn->canDoBGNoneRoot = 1; to omapfb-driver.c | 15:03 |
| * cwillu_at_work pokes at Sarvatt | 15:04 | |
| lucazade | hi | 16:27 |
| lucazade | Bernardo http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODMxNw | 16:27 |
| lucazade | and http://www.advogato.org/person/mjg59/diary.html?start=250 | 16:28 |
| lucazade | about Poulsbo | 16:28 |
| Sarvatt | jcristau: dont know if you saw on the lists but 1.7-branch is free for all now and whot said not to use nominations in his stepping down thread | 17:36 |
| jcristau | yeah saw that | 17:38 |
| jcristau | but i was too lazy to move stuff over to 1.7-branch so i pushed one more to -nominations :) | 17:38 |
| jcristau | Sarvatt: i had missed the end of 1.7 in the 1.7.7 announcement though | 17:47 |
| === Sinnerman is now known as Cobalt | ||
| Sarvatt | ricotz: can you apply this patch for mutter in maverick in your PPA? http://sarvatt.com/downloads/patches/0001-Use-gdk_screen_get_system_colormap-instead-of-gdk_sc.patch | 18:21 |
| === Sinnerman is now known as Cobalt | ||
| === ripps_ is now known as ripps | ||
| bryceh | RAOF, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Blueprints/ will need to be brought up to date at some point when you have some time | 20:57 |
| Sarvatt | XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 vmware is the magic to make it work under maverick if anyone else goes to try those vmwgfx drivers:) | 23:46 |
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