[00:07] <Sarvatt> hope noone needed to use a PPA :)
[00:07] <Sarvatt> builder rather
[00:08] <Sarvatt> https://edge.launchpad.net/builders
[00:08] <Sarvatt> lol
[00:45] <Sarvatt> ugh, touchpad is SUPER slow after the latest synaptics upgrade. can't adjust it in the mouse capplet
[01:01] <Sarvatt> think i'm going to revert http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-input-synaptics/commit/?id=a489ec15eb489a3528f6fee99716f7f4ae35f9ee for now, none of the synclient options change the speed either
[02:23] <Sarvatt> ok tested xorg-edgers on 7 machines and they all upgraded from stock fine and work, phew that took all day
[02:46] <Sarvatt> now to do it all again in a week when 1.9 branches
[03:09] <bjsnider> Sarvatt, is there going to be a mesa update for 10.04.1? fedora's performance is much better
[03:10] <Sarvatt> no, 7.7 branch is dead :(
[03:11] <RAOF> Define “much better” in such a way that an update fixing performance is sufficiently important :)
[03:11] <Sarvatt> RAOF: check the phoronix ubuntu vs fedora article
[03:14] <Sarvatt> http://www.phoronix.com/data/img/results/fedora13_vs_ubuntu1004/2.png  -- that one especially
[03:15] <RAOF> I'm looking at bug #531069, and I'm _sure_ I've seen a relevant commit somewhere, but I can't seem to find it now.  Do you have any ideas?
[03:15] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 531069 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "Display error when returning from sleep after docking (affects: 1) (heat: 12)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/531069
[03:16] <Sarvatt> yeah that should be already fixed raof
[03:16] <RAOF> In Lucid?
[03:16] <Sarvatt> one sec i'll dig up the kernel patch, it was the one they dropped in the 2.6.33 drm backport  by mistake and readded just before release
[03:18] <Sarvatt> if you ask if they're still experiencing it i'm sure they'll say no
[03:19] <Sarvatt> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-lucid.git;a=commit;h=0d2907f4bead56cff60f91068b3a3efa7149e702
[03:19] <Sarvatt> readded not long after they submitted the bug
[03:20] <RAOF> I've also got someone with a similar symptom with what should be an up-to-date lucid; certainly they're using 2.6.32-22
[03:31] <ripps> woo lot of xorg-edgers updates tonight
[03:36] <Sarvatt> hah, it'd help if I actually read planet.freedesktop.org this week before complaining about synaptics! http://who-t.blogspot.com/2010/06/new-synaptics-acceleration-mechanism.html
[03:36] <Sarvatt> ripps: yeah today was a "fun" day.. lol
[03:36]  * RAOF should subscribe to planet.freedesktop.org, really.
[03:37] <bryceh> me too
[03:37] <Sarvatt> theres hardly ever any updates on it
[03:39] <Sarvatt> that blob post makes it sound like the slowness is at an acceptable level
[03:39] <Sarvatt> but we're talking 6 or so swipes full from left to right to move the pointer  to the other side of the screen slow
[03:41] <Sarvatt> good to know gnome will get updated to adjust it at least, i couldnt figure out the synclient options to make it any faster and the mouse capplet acceleration bar did nothing
[03:41] <ripps> There should be some kind of changelog that explains what features xorg-edger has over the default ubuntu version.
[03:42] <Sarvatt> its at the top of the ppa description
[03:42] <Sarvatt> broken down by release, when i add new things i put it there
[03:43] <Sarvatt> it could be a lot better than my disjointed ramblings though :)
[03:44] <RAOF> “New stuff”
[03:45] <Sarvatt> ripps: i reverted the pointer acceleration stuff he's talking about in that blog post if thats what you meant :D
[03:45] <Sarvatt> it was unusably slow on 3 different laptops
[03:46] <RAOF> Oh, look at that — displaylink updates!
[03:46] <Sarvatt> i guess you could use phoronix as an xorg-edgers changelog
[03:47] <Sarvatt> just have to take it with a *big* grain of salt :)
[03:47] <Sarvatt> RAOF: where at?
[03:47] <RAOF> planet.freedesktop.org
[03:48] <RAOF> Specifically: dropping the DDX component in favour of making fbdev slightly better.
[03:49] <Sarvatt> yay probably not compatible with what tiago is trying to do to fbdevhw and wont be updated for another year :)
[03:58] <Sarvatt> i wish i could pass messages to the package manager letting people choose if they want to uninstall a PPA or keep getting updates if they are using something thats really broken from the updates :)
[03:58] <Sarvatt> like say the blobs when i put xserver 1.9 in there
[04:02] <RAOF> There was a thread on ubuntu-devel-discuss about roughtly that.
[04:02] <RAOF> It could be useful, yeah.
[04:25] <Sarvatt> sucks that ricotz's gnome-shell ppa is probably going to be useless for all of maverick, I liked having newer clutter and mutter
[04:25] <Sarvatt> glxgears crashes mutter the same way it did metacity, doubt it'd be fixed upstream
[04:44] <RAOF> glxgears crashes mutter?
[04:45] <RAOF> Who's to blame there?
[05:53] <Sarvatt> gtk
[06:05]  * RAOF re-reads the above, and find that it makes sense.
[06:06] <RAOF> On the other hand, there's a patch for metacity to make it work, so it's probably pretty easy to make mutter work, too.
[06:37] <stenten> If someone boots into a black screen, and then recovers in a tty with 'startx' but not 'sudo service gdm start', should I reassign it to gdm?
[06:38] <stenten> Bug #586173
[06:38] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 586173 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "[i945] intel gma 82945G xorg does not work at boot (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/586173
[06:53]  * RAOF has a look-see
[07:01] <RAOF> stenten: That looks a bit strange.  It could well be a gdm bug, but I think it's more likely to be X related.
[07:03] <RAOF> stenten: Strange compents include: why is vga16fb being loaded?  Is there any difference in X log files between running startx and running “sudo start gdm”?
[07:07] <stenten> RAOF: Hmm, I never thought of either of those, thanks.
[07:07] <RAOF> vga16fb caused problems early in Lucid; booting with “video=vga16fb:disable” might be an interesting data point.
[07:11] <stenten> Never heard of it. I'll have to read up on it some.... In the meantime, I'll make sure to ask for those, thanks.
[14:29] <Dr_Jakob> Hmm the dmesg errors are not related to X, something is trying to use 8bit color mode on the framebuffer
[14:30] <Dr_Jakob> Sarvatt: ^^
[14:30] <Dr_Jakob> Which we don't support..
[14:55] <cwillu_at_work> isn't plymouth running in 8bit on non-kms drivers?
[15:03] <cwillu_at_work> can we enable -nr for omap?  works fine if I add pScrn->canDoBGNoneRoot  = 1; to omapfb-driver.c
[15:04]  * cwillu_at_work pokes at Sarvatt
[16:27] <lucazade> hi
[16:27] <lucazade> Bernardo http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODMxNw
[16:28] <lucazade> and http://www.advogato.org/person/mjg59/diary.html?start=250
[16:28] <lucazade> about Poulsbo
[17:36] <Sarvatt> jcristau: dont know if you saw on the lists but 1.7-branch is free for all now and whot said not to use nominations in his stepping down thread
[17:38] <jcristau> yeah saw that
[17:38] <jcristau> but i was too lazy to move stuff over to 1.7-branch so i pushed one more to -nominations :)
[17:47] <jcristau> Sarvatt: i had missed the end of 1.7 in the 1.7.7 announcement though
[18:21] <Sarvatt> ricotz: can you apply this patch for mutter in maverick in your PPA? http://sarvatt.com/downloads/patches/0001-Use-gdk_screen_get_system_colormap-instead-of-gdk_sc.patch
[20:57] <bryceh> RAOF, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Blueprints/ will need to be brought up to date at some point when you have some time
[23:46] <Sarvatt> XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 vmware is the magic to make it work under maverick if anyone  else goes to try those vmwgfx drivers:)