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=== gorgonizer_ is now known as gorgonizer
ScottKamichair: I updated that page.00:53
DarkwingDuckapachelogger: you were looking for me the other day?01:16
apacheloggerDarkwingDuck: no, I was just trying to abuse your nick for fun stuff IIRC :P01:17
DarkwingDuck;)01:17
DarkwingDuckapachelogger: quick question... qt for kde/kubuntu reasons... python or c++?01:18
apacheloggerDarkwingDuck: c++01:18
apacheloggerfor kde anyway01:18
apacheloggerfor kubuntu it depends01:18
DarkwingDuckBut, 99% of what we use QT is upstream anyway?01:19
apacheloggerlike jockey, there is a common core implemented independent of GTK, so jockey-kde is python and uses that core01:19
apacheloggerDarkwingDuck: Qt!01:19
jjesseevening :)01:19
DarkwingDuckhey jjesse01:19
apacheloggerDarkwingDuck: I am not sure if 99% is really the number, but something like that01:19
jjesseque pasa DarkwingDuck01:19
apacheloggerwe do not have a whole lot of specific tool usecases anyway01:19
DarkwingDuckJob hunting :/01:19
jjessebummer on that01:20
jjessegood luck01:20
DarkwingDuckheh.01:20
DarkwingDuckapachelogger: got ya.01:20
DarkwingDuckapachelogger: now, I know what to learn.01:20
DarkwingDuckjjesse: Thanks man. It's not easy01:22
apacheloggerwellt hen01:24
apacheloggersoyuz prevents me from doing a working fluffy image01:24
apacheloggerawesome01:24
apachelogger\o/01:24
* apachelogger goes into pissed mode and watches doctor who01:25
DarkwingDuckBurn Notice starts up again tonight :D01:26
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: amor has a little kitteh that runs across the tops of your windows (or on your panel if it can't find space on the window) Might be neat to have a Fluffeh Kitteh02:02
apacheloggeromg02:02
apacheloggertrue02:02
apacheloggerfregl: ^02:02
JontheEchidnaone would want to disable amor saying ktips by default (we ship none, maybe it could say "so magic" :D)02:03
apacheloggeraha!02:04
apacheloggerpeople have re-discovered my u1 ppa02:04
apacheloggerthey shall all install junk and then I will rename the packages and provide no transition02:05
apacheloggermuahahaha02:05
JontheEchidnaheh02:05
apacheloggerkubotu: identica status02:05
kubotuhttp://home.samfundet.no/~sandsmark/unicorn.png possible logo for !fluffy :P (24 minutes and 53 seconds ago via Choqok)02:05
apacheloggerright02:05
apacheloggerfregl: ^02:05
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: that said, currently the packages conflict with proposed anyway, apparently they finally come round to make gnome-keyring work outside gnome02:09
JontheEchidnaweren't they going to use new python keyring shiz that's supposed to work with kwallet?02:09
apacheloggeryes02:09
apacheloggerand no02:09
JontheEchidna:D02:10
apacheloggerI really do not get what they want to do and when and why and how02:10
JontheEchidnaand :(02:10
apacheloggerthere is 0, I repeat, ZERO, communication to the outside world about u1 development02:10
apacheloggerwicked if you ask me, but so be it02:10
txwikingerwow.. KNR is really cool02:16
ScottK:-)02:21
txwikingerScottK: I got myself an AcerOne at the end02:22
* ScottK nods02:22
txwikingerAnd everything works 02:23
ScottKExcellent.02:31
CIA-91[libqapt] jmthomas * 1134344 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/example/cacheupdatewidget.cpp Don't leak our downloadModel02:47
ScottKJontheEchidna: Would you please help dantii with understanding #586497.  It looks like something that ought to get fixed if the report is accurate.02:49
JontheEchidnaScottK: that's probably the packagekit backend not following the apt cron stuff you set in software-properties-{kde,gtk}02:49
ScottKAny idea how to fix?02:50
JontheEchidnathe frontend only shows what the packagekit daemon is doing in this instance02:50
ScottKAh, right.02:50
ScottKSo reassign to packagekit?02:50
JontheEchidnayep02:51
=== jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna
DarkwingDuckKNR is working great on my X41 Tablet too03:57
DarkwingDuckI think I'm going to get the Asus Tablet and run tests on that as well03:57
lex79JontheEchidna: I've just uploaded pkg-kde-tools (they switched to kde/doc path ) and kaffeine into my ppa, see tomorrow, g' night04:20
lex79;)04:20
JontheEchidnalex79: they never went away from kde/doc path, we're the ones that switched04:21
lex79JontheEchidna: uhm, right :D It's late here my brain is melted :)04:22
JontheEchidnaoh, wait04:22
lex79uhm04:22
JontheEchidnayou're right, actually04:22
ScottKJontheEchidna: The settled on kde4 and we stayed with kde for kde4 stuff.04:23
JontheEchidnaScottK: http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/p/pkg-kde-tools/pkg-kde-tools_0.9.0/changelog04:23
lex79ah, ok :)04:23
ScottKI asked them to switch their .install files to kde* instead of kde4 so it'd work for both of us and they switched the doc path instead.04:23
lex79well, g' night guys :P04:24
ScottKGood night.04:24
=== steveire_ is now known as steveire
freglapachelogger: why is that uni-thing from sandsmark pooping a pink egg? awesome :)10:32
freglamor sounds good... and getting rid of amarok (purely for space reasons) is always a good idea10:33
freglmaybe we can include bangarangaragangarang instead10:33
* Mamarok larts fregl10:42
freglalways those people without humor... it is a sad world10:42
freglvery sad10:42
* fregl things after being punished for suggesting the amarok removal, now they have to do it, out of protest10:45
fregllet's see what apachelogger thinks about that10:46
shadeslayerany idea if we have kubuntu lucid t shirts at the canonical shop?10:54
apacheloggerfregl: it is begone since I said that yesterday :P11:47
apacheloggerthe unithing from sandsmark is pooping an egg because I wanted something pink and he felt like drawing an egg ;)11:47
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: I got mail about the u1 file conflict already :P11:51
apacheloggerhm11:51
apacheloggerdid soyuz explode or something?11:52
apacheloggerfluffy-meta and fluffy-unicorn are stuck in queue schedulded in 2 hrs for a lot more than 2 hrs11:52
apacheloggerthat does not even make sense https://launchpad.net/builders/11:58
apacheloggerapparently most of the ppa buildds are idle :/11:58
debfxis it possible to change pkg-kde-tools so it enables --parallel by default, like it does with cdbs?11:58
apacheloggerdebfx: unfortunately no12:00
apacheloggerdebfx: the cdbs thing was only applied to the few core-kde packages12:00
apacheloggerthe dh7 magic is the same for all kde packages12:00
=== shadesla1er is now known as shadeslayer
debfxapachelogger: it shouldn't be that much work to test-rebuild the packages and disable parallel building for the ones that ftbfs12:19
KRFapachelogger, so did you like my mail?12:20
KRFdid you forward it to lydia?12:21
apacheloggeroh, you did not send it to lydia?12:21
KRFnah12:21
apacheloggerfwd'd12:21
KRFmaybe you could be like you know: i don't want this to get public!12:21
KRFcould have been even12:22
apacheloggerlol12:22
apacheloggerNightrose: ^12:22
apacheloggerNightrose: we are black mailing you now!12:22
apacheloggerfirst mail in your inbox already :P12:22
Nightroseohmy12:22
Nightrosejeeeeez12:23
* Nightrose slaps KRF and apachelogger12:23
Nightrose:D12:23
apacheloggeryou better make us members of the illuminati or who knows, maybe this picture ends up all over the news papers12:24
apacheloggersuch terrible things have happended in the past12:24
apacheloggerone not-so-carefully entered email address, and there you have it12:24
apacheloggeroh12:25
apacheloggers/illuminati/kde e.v. :P12:25
* \sh thinks apachelogger is really charming today ;) 12:34
apacheloggeroh look what the cat dragged in12:34
apachelogger:*12:34
* apachelogger hugs \\sh and Nightrose and KRF and debfx12:35
* \sh pinks ;)12:35
KRFwho's that last guy you're hugging there?12:35
apacheloggerKRF: the one who fixes KDE stuff KDE does not want to fix :P12:36
KRFah, cool12:36
KRFso he's in chargo of fixing knetworkmanager? :P12:36
apachelogger*shrug*12:36
KRFtypos--12:36
apacheloggeroh great12:37
apacheloggerbangarang git comes with monochrome icon12:37
\shwhatever bangarang is ;)12:37
jussilol12:38
apacheloggerdont know that song? :P12:38
jussiwhat is banagarang?12:38
jussi!info bangarang12:38
ubottubangarang (source: bangarang): Multimedia player with a lightweight interface for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-1 (lucid), package size 324 kB, installed size 1464 kB12:38
* \sh doesn't want to know actually, because it sounds very dangerous12:38
apacheloggeroh12:39
\shapachelogger, I missed you during UDS-M 12:39
apacheloggernow I got reminded of something12:39
apachelogger\sh: I was hiding in IRC :P12:39
apacheloggerbangarang is a bit like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVJLFfRYOj012:39
apacheloggergotta relogin into my fancy new KDE12:40
\shapachelogger, why didn't you tell me it's something I can't show @office...now all people are watching this video 12:41
\sh.oO(good that they are not dacing here right now)=12:41
jussilol12:42
jussithat song is just wrong...12:42
apachelogger\sh: lol ^^12:45
apacheloggernext time you shall get the qt4 dance :P12:45
apacheloggerjussi: more than that12:45
\shapachelogger, this is more office compatible ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkK-23zVtsU ;) WE WON !12:45
apacheloggerI have heared about that12:46
apacheloggerI find the song mediocre though12:46
apacheloggeralso the english is sort of german :P12:46
\shapachelogger, well, at least stefan raab helds to his promises ;)12:46
apacheloggerthis lady could have done better IMHO12:46
apachelogger\sh: maybe he bought the win?12:47
\shapachelogger, I don't think you can "buy" the votes of people calling in12:47
apacheloggerno, but the software developer's so that their machinery counts "wrongish"12:48
\shapachelogger, and about the denglish -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2naZgBhH9tc 12:48
apacheloggeror the other humans in the chain so that the results change somewhat12:48
\shapachelogger, anyways...ralph siegel is defeated...and mr. raab is now the nations hero 12:49
* apachelogger does not know who ralph siegel is12:49
apacheloggersounds like someone from the reeperbahn though12:49
\shapachelogger, the old eurovision german songwriter and producer ;) old fart12:53
apachelogger*nod*12:54
* txwikinger thinks apachelogger has a deficit in History knowledge13:08
shadeslayerapachelogger: got a sec>13:09
apacheloggerthat entirely depends what for13:09
shadeslayerapachelogger: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/shadeslayer 13:09
shadeslayerapachelogger: can you write me a testimonial :P13:09
apacheloggeroh my13:09
shadeslayerapplying for membership :)13:09
apacheloggerI recon this does take a lot longer than a second :/13:10
apacheloggershadeslayer: kubuntu or ubuntu?13:10
txwikingerlike... who is this person?13:10
shadeslayerapachelogger: kubuntu13:10
shadeslayerits me :P13:10
apacheloggershadeslayer: then I would not ask a member of the council to write a testimonial ;)13:11
ScottKapachelogger: Pretty much everything's monochrome icons in 4.5 apparently.13:11
shadeslayerapachelogger: ah.. :P13:11
* ScottK wonders if Sput got the word?13:11
shadeslayeranyone else interested... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/shadeslayer13:11
apacheloggerScottK: yeah, but not in 4.4, which makes bangarang look odd13:11
txwikingershadeslayer: You need the ninja stuff of your page.. it is merely a suspicion that they exist :)13:11
apacheloggerthey do not!13:12
txwikingerAs I said :)13:12
apacheloggershadeslayer: it is really not necessary to collect testimonials for kubuntu btw13:12
shadeslayerhehe,well thats one of my major contribs...13:12
shadeslayerapachelogger: hmm.. well.. just one or two :)13:12
apacheloggeryou will be grilled eitherway :P13:12
apacheloggererm, interviewed13:12
shadeslayerhaha xD13:12
txwikingershadeslayer: unsubstantial rumors13:12
ScottKapachelogger: Yes, soyuz did explode.  The last release "didn't go very well".13:12
apacheloggerScottK: that is unfortunate :/13:12
* txwikinger heard something about BBQ13:13
shadeslayertxwikinger: hehe :P13:13
apacheloggerI was hoping to do fluffy alpha1 this weekend13:13
txwikingerand that before breakfast13:13
shadeslayerapachelogger: so soon? :)13:13
ScottKapachelogger: It's just some web service, not like it's important it be reliable.13:13
apacheloggerwell, demand is high, so ...13:13
ScottK;-)13:13
apachelogger^^13:13
shadeslayerapachelogger: hehe.. so youll go with maverick or lucid?13:13
* apachelogger could build packages at the OBS :P13:13
apacheloggerno breakage there13:13
shadeslayerOBS ?13:13
apacheloggeropen build service (the suse thingy)13:14
shadeslayerah..13:14
apacheloggerwhich also happens to build deb13:14
shadeslayerapachelogger: does it build the same way as lp?13:14
apacheloggerno13:14
apacheloggerit builds rpms13:14
apacheloggerand debs13:14
apacheloggerand for more than one distro each13:14
apacheloggercertainly the debs will not be as fancy as when built within a debian-based toolchain but oh well13:15
apacheloggerat least it works13:15
* shadeslayer puts ISO testing in wiki13:15
apacheloggerunlike other services for package building :P13:15
* txwikinger would want to read the t&c's first13:15
shadeslayertxwikinger: hehe :P13:15
apacheloggerodd13:15
txwikingerthey probably make you sell your grandmother to them13:15
* apachelogger thinks that his iso splash image is a bit wrongish13:15
apacheloggerah!13:16
apacheloggermy pcx got 3 planes13:16
txwikingerhow comes that the plymouth splash screen is ubuntu when you install kubuntu?13:16
apacheloggerwhatever that means ^^13:16
txwikingerhi maco13:17
shadeslayerwhen is Riddell coming back?13:18
* txwikinger has everything ready for Kubuntu Bug Hug Day on Monday13:18
txwikingerjust need to send out the announcements13:18
shadeslayertxwikinger: ill help you out with the next to next one :D13:18
txwikingershadeslayer: cool13:18
shadeslayerexams till the 11th :(13:18
apacheloggershadeslayer: sundayish13:18
apacheloggerhe said he will be away the whole weekend13:18
txwikingeralways those students13:18
shadeslayerapachelogger: ok :)13:18
* txwikinger is jealous13:18
shadeslayertxwikinger: which one are you doing this monday?13:19
* txwikinger could now just go and pass the exams without studying :)13:19
txwikingerkdenetworks13:19
shadeslayerah ok :)13:19
txwikingerbut feel free to make suggestions for the list13:20
* txwikinger has in fact given such exams :)13:20
txwikingerSomething is wrong13:22
* txwikinger cannot find any meetings in today's calendar13:22
* txwikinger is looking for a nice speech synthesizer13:24
* txwikinger wants to put some hilarious messages in his nuisance VM box13:24
apacheloggerjovie is awesome13:25
apacheloggeralthough it is not really a synthesizer ;)13:25
* shadeslayer wonders what the kubuntu council will do with him :P13:25
shadeslayerapachelogger: when is the next meeting?13:25
apacheloggershadeslayer: whenever someone bothers to schedule one ;)13:26
apacheloggerScottK: any ETA on a soyuz fix btw?13:27
shadeslayerapachelogger: :P13:27
* apachelogger thinks he fixed the splash now13:27
txwikingersoyuz is always broken, so what's the difference?13:27
apacheloggernow it is broken beyond usage :/13:28
apacheloggerwe all live in a yellow submarine13:30
apacheloggerthat why it is so crowded13:30
* txwikinger cannot find jovie13:31
apacheloggerfregl: http://imagebin.ca/view/Q_JA3ns.html !!!!!13:31
apacheloggeromg13:31
shadeslayerapachelogger: make the heart blue instead of white :P13:32
* txwikinger thinks apachelogger should make Valentine's Day the release date13:33
shadeslayerthatll be perfect :P13:33
freglapachelogger: <313:35
freglapachelogger: I just wrote a mail mentioning fluffy to the sueddeutschland@lists.fsfe.org list :)13:35
freglspread _the word_ :)13:35
apachelogger:D :D :D13:36
* apachelogger still needs to master up a blog post13:36
txwikingerand a facebook page that they can compile a list of fluffy users13:38
shadeslayerapachelogger: where do you guys have a meeting? ( whenever you have one :P )13:38
apacheloggertxwikinger: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fluffy/12414204094877113:38
apacheloggerGO LIKEY LIKEY IT!13:38
apacheloggershadeslayer: either #ubuntu-meeting or here13:39
apacheloggerdepends on the schedule though, so the location is usually announced along time and date13:39
* shadeslayer sends apachelogger friend invite on fb...13:39
apacheloggershadeslayer: you have an all wrong countdown banner there...13:40
shadeslayerapachelogger: where?13:40
apacheloggerfacebook13:40
apacheloggerleft column13:40
apacheloggerI see ubuntu countdown13:40
* shadeslayer checks13:41
shadeslayerapachelogger: is there a kubuntu one too?13:41
apacheloggeryes, somewhere13:41
shadeslayer:P13:41
apacheloggerin either case none > ubuntu :P13:41
apacheloggerfregl: http://imagebin.ca/view/2P_ZpXB.html13:42
shadeslayerhehe :D13:42
apacheloggerany suggetions?13:42
shadeslayerapachelogger: removed :P13:43
* shadeslayer continues his search for kubuntu countdown13:43
shadeslayer+banner13:43
shadeslayerapachelogger: you might also want to steer clear of lp since the build queue is HUGE13:47
apacheloggerno wonder considering soyuz is all broken13:47
shadeslayerso much so https://launchpad.net/builders shows unknown :P13:48
shadeslayerfor the queue part ><13:48
apacheloggermust go beyond python's int range then ;)13:48
shadeslayerapachelogger: oh and can you talk to Riddell when he comes back to set up a meeting regarding my membership?13:49
apachelogger!meeting13:49
ubottuTeam meetings are held in #ubuntu-meeting - See « /msg ubottu logs » for transcripts.13:49
apacheloggerhm13:49
apacheloggerjussi: tsimpson: maybe it is just me but it would be nice ot have schedule urls in there *shrug*13:49
jussiapachelogger: as soon as we get the plugin back and working....13:50
apacheloggerkcool13:50
* jussi curses google cal13:50
shadeslayerjussi: can you give me the schedule? a link or something?13:51
jussiapachelogger: we used to have @schedule which would tell the next meeting13:51
apacheloggershadeslayer: you can schedule one yourself13:51
jussi!fridge13:51
ubottuThe Fridge is the Ubuntu's Community News website, and can be found at http://fridge.ubuntu.com13:51
apacheloggerjussi: no, I mean the kubuntu meeting schedule page13:51
shadeslayerapachelogger: awesome13:51
apacheloggerso I know what is currently on the agenda13:51
jussiapachelogger: ahh13:51
jussiyeah, give me the url and Ill add it13:51
apacheloggerjussi: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings13:52
apacheloggershadeslayer: ^13:52
apacheloggeralso you need to add yourself there :P13:52
shadeslayerapachelogger: ;)13:52
shadeslayerapachelogger: is Monday fine?13:52
apacheloggeroh13:52
shadeslayerilll just get the time13:52
apacheloggershadeslayer: you need to query that13:52
apacheloggershadeslayer: usually we use doodle to find an appropriate slot13:52
jussi!meeting-#kubuntu is <reply>Kubuntu Meetings are usually held in #ubuntu-meeting - Agenda and info: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings13:52
ubottuI'll remember that, jussi13:52
jussiapachelogger: ^13:53
apacheloggershadeslayer: also see recent mailing list info regarding meetings I suppose13:53
jussi!meeting13:53
ubottuTeam meetings are held in #ubuntu-meeting - See « /msg ubottu logs » for transcripts.13:53
jussi!meeting-#kubuntu-devel is <reply>Kubuntu Meetings are usually held in #ubuntu-meeting - Agenda and info: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings13:53
jussi!meeting13:53
ubottuKubuntu Meetings are usually held in #ubuntu-meeting - Agenda and info: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings13:53
jussi:)13:53
apacheloggersuper awesome13:53
* apachelogger hugs jussi13:53
* jussi hugs apachelogger13:53
shadeslayerapachelogger: Riddell http://www.doodle.com/7b2a2rbdtqb5g3n5 14:03
shadeslayerapachelogger: who is in the council btw?14:09
SputScottK: afaik, only "system icons" are supposed to be monochromeish (which in 4.5 KDE means they still look gorgeous because they have greyscale shading etc), but app icons are still colorful14:09
SputScottK: also, suprisingly, the upgrade from intrepid beta via jaunty and karmic to lucid on my mom's notebook went quite well :)14:09
Riddellorganising council members oif on my todo for monday14:11
shadeslayerRiddell: :)14:12
shadeslayerRiddell: im applying for membership...14:12
DarkwingDuck,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,                     14:14
ScottKSput: Great to hear.  I don't find it suprising since we tested that upgrade path pretty thoroughly.14:14
shadeslayerDarkwingDuck: comma flood? :P14:16
shadeslayerok im going,please look have a look at the doodle http://www.doodle.com/7b2a2rbdtqb5g3n5,to confirm meet timings :)14:31
rgreening'ello dudes and dudettes :)14:33
txwikingerhi rgreening14:36
rgreening:)14:37
SputScottK: I tend to break upgrade paths in kubuntu :)14:44
ScottK;-)14:44
Sputbut yeah. I was a bit surprised that I had to go through all of the versions (I'd have expected jaunty to jump to lucid directly), but looks like nothing seriously broke :)14:44
Tm_TSput: I had fun upgrading from Intrepid straight to Lucid14:45
\shSput, dist-upgrades only from LTS 2 LTS are supported, or from Devel Release to Next Devel Release until LTS ;)15:19
\shSput, hey man btw...long time no see ;)15:19
CIA-91[libqapt] jmthomas * 1134539 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (backend.cpp backend.h) We can forward these signals right along. No need to have a function to do that.15:20
apacheloggerjtechidna: btw, why are you not using a dbus adaptor?15:34
=== jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: for QApt::Backend?15:35
apacheloggerfor talking to the worker in general15:36
JontheEchidnathe worker has a dbusadaptor15:36
apacheloggerfor talking _to_ the worker15:36
apacheloggercurrently you are doing the queries yourself while you have a perfectly fine xml file lying around, dont you?15:37
darkwingMobilemorning guys15:37
apacheloggerjust generate a adaptor for the backend using the xml file and use that15:37
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: is there a way to make that adaptor do async calls?15:37
apacheloggerdefine call15:37
apacheloggergenerally everything is async with it15:38
JontheEchidnaDBusConnection::systemBus().asyncCall()15:38
JontheEchidna+Q15:38
apacheloggerthe only way to make it sync is by using it inside a call itself15:38
JontheEchidnanon-blocking call15:38
apacheloggerlike foo(adaptor->setBar("ll));15:38
apacheloggerthat would be blocking15:38
apacheloggeradaptor->setBar("ll") is not15:38
apacheloggerreason being that almost evyerthing from the adaptor will return a dbuspendingreply or what it is called15:39
apacheloggerand that thingy is generally async15:39
JontheEchidnanice15:39
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: take a look at the u1-kde codebase, I think I do both blocking and non-blocking there15:40
apacheloggeror at least I did at some point ^^15:40
JontheEchidnaall hail dbus mast0r haxX0r apachelogger!15:40
apachelogger\o/15:40
CIA-91[libqapt] jmthomas * 1134543 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/qaptbatch.cpp String changes15:44
CIA-91[libqapt] jmthomas * 1134545 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (9 files in 2 dirs) Implement API for the worker to use to ask questions. Use this API to implement apt's media change functionality TODO: Get qapt-batch to listen for these and present the questions to the user15:47
JontheEchidna^other possible questions include debconf, "do you want to install untrusted packages", conf file changes, etc15:48
JontheEchidnanow to work on the dbus adapt0r15:49
txwikingerHow Du I get in KNR the search and launch on the search and launch page back?15:57
apacheloggeradd a new activity15:59
apacheloggergo to configure it15:59
apacheloggerset the activity to S&L15:59
apacheloggerI think15:59
Sput\sh: true enough :) we should beer up again!16:00
apacheloggerbeering up ^^16:01
apacheloggerohhh16:01
apacheloggersoyuz is doing things \o/16:01
txwikingerAh.. ok 16:01
apacheloggersweet, in like half an hur I should be able to roll a working fluffy image16:02
* apachelogger goes outside sipping tea meanwhile16:02
neversfeldethere is a Suggests: libxine1-ffmpeg missing in the minitube package for lucid, do you think this is worth a SRU?16:02
* apachelogger doenst think so16:05
apacheloggerit will only be suggested to terminal users anyway I think16:05
neversfeldeok, I like this answer :)16:08
* apachelogger waits for publisher run16:13
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: any advantages to doing a dbus adaptor over what I did with qapt-batch a few days ago? http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/qaptbatch.cpp?r1=1133812&r2=113381116:29
* JontheEchidna is having a hard time getting the dbus adaptor itself to compile16:30
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: adaptor is preferrred in general16:31
apacheloggeralso handier and easier to extend if necessary16:31
shadeslayeryes! ctrl+enter functionality back in rekonq :P16:31
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: see u1-kde/src/libs/CMakeLists.txt16:31
JontheEchidnahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/444665/16:31
apacheloggerit uses the xml from u1-kde/src/auth/16:31
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: you probably need to define additional includes16:32
* apachelogger is wondering why it is parented by BAckend and not QObject anyway16:33
apacheloggeroh oh oh16:33
apacheloggerpublisher through16:33
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: how do you generate the adaptor?16:34
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/444669/ in src/CMakeLists.txt16:35
apacheloggeroh16:35
apacheloggerah16:35
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: you want an interface ^^16:35
apacheloggersilly me16:35
apacheloggerqt4_add_dbus_interface(foo_SRCS some.xml Filename)16:36
JontheEchidnasame error16:37
apacheloggerehm16:39
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: please commit16:39
JontheEchidnakk16:39
apacheloggeroh16:39
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: hold on16:39
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: you need to do that in the backend cmakelists16:39
apacheloggernot the worker16:39
apacheloggernot sure if that is the problem though :)16:39
JontheEchidnaIt's in backend's cmakelists.txt16:40
apacheloggerif not please commit16:40
JontheEchidnakk16:40
JontheEchidnaoh16:40
JontheEchidnaha16:40
JontheEchidnaI changed it to add_dbus_interface in worker, tho16:40
JontheEchidnastill same error tho16:41
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: committed16:41
CIA-91[libqapt] jmthomas * 1134558 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (CMakeLists.txt backend.h org.kubuntu.qaptbackend.xml) Start of DBus adaptor for Backend. Fails to compile16:42
JontheEchidnaoh, the introspection file probably doesn't have the methods right since I ripped that bit from the worker xml file, but that's a different problem16:43
apacheloggernow that is wrong16:45
JontheEchidnaoh, those should be signals too16:46
apacheloggerthe whole xml shouldnt be there16:47
JontheEchidnaoh16:47
apacheloggerhm16:48
apacheloggerwell16:48
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: there is something wrong in the design16:48
apacheloggerjust now I come to wonder why the backend dbusses at all16:48
apacheloggerwhat should happen is that the backend emits junk that the worker then processes16:48
apacheloggerone way communiction if you will16:48
apacheloggeranyhow16:49
apacheloggerqt4_add_dbus_interface(qapt_SRCS worker/org.kubuntu.qaptworker.xml worker)16:49
apacheloggerthat is about what you want16:49
apacheloggerand nuke the local file and the changes to backend.h16:49
JontheEchidnakk16:49
apacheloggerthen just take a look at UbuntuOne::SyncDaemon for how to use the interface16:50
JontheEchidnaI don't see another way than dbus to emit stuff for the worker to process16:50
* apachelogger needs to review the code completely really16:50
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: the backend should not care about who or what is doing stuff with it16:51
* shadeslayer would recommend the droid-ttf package to everyone16:53
* apachelogger would not16:53
shadeslayerapachelogger: its pretty good....16:53
apacheloggernot on large screens16:54
shadeslayerworks fine on 1440x900..16:54
apacheloggerok then16:54
shadeslayerapachelogger: well someone posted their .fonts.config and works pretty well16:55
apacheloggerI did not say that it does not work16:55
apacheloggerI said that it does not look good16:55
apacheloggernaturally16:55
apacheloggerbecause it was made for a different screen size16:55
shadeslayerhmm.. really up to you.. what do you use?16:55
apacheloggerliberation16:55
shadeslayeri used that before switching..16:56
apacheloggeroh, there sneaked a "ta" in my preseed -.-16:56
apacheloggerno wonder it fails :/16:56
ScottKBTW, we just added ttf-liberation to the default install.17:06
ScottKSRU waiting for Lucid for it too.17:06
apacheloggersweet17:06
ScottKApparently OOo is even more ugly without it.17:07
danttiScottK: when you click on the systray icon you get all updates selected now :D http://img580.imageshack.us/my.php?image=plasmadesktopda3114.jpg17:12
ScottKCool.17:13
apacheloggerahhh17:13
* apachelogger is quite the stupid robot17:13
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apacheloggerindices make a lot of difference when it comes to debootstraping ^^17:22
bertoldoHi everyone...17:32
bertoldoI want to start developing to kubuntu... to help the community...17:33
bertoldoI'm looking for some guidance... maybe someone is looking for a help...17:34
bertoldoI'm from Brazil... and I've been programming in C/C++ for a long time...17:34
shtylmanbertoldo: have you ever done linux development?17:44
shtylmanor Qt development?17:44
bertoldoYep...17:44
bertoldoat the moment I'm studing Qt...17:45
shtylmancool17:45
bertoldoI love kubuntu and I also use ubuntu (on my wife's laptop)...17:45
bertoldoI want to help kubuntu to be as same as ubuntu...17:46
shtylmanbertoldo: great to hear, our general ToDo list is: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo17:46
bertoldoI'm talking about quality, integration with other programs...17:46
bertoldoand also usability17:46
shtylmanspecific items related to development include: KPackagekit, and printer applet17:46
bertoldoI saw this list... at wiki...17:47
shtylmanthose are c++ development items 17:47
shtylmanwhich are related to intergration as well as usability17:47
shtylmanfor printer applet, talk to dantti17:47
shtylmanthe package kit guy is not in the irc room at the moment17:48
bertoldogreat... I'm looking for this... a kind of help to understand the information on the wiki17:48
shtylmanthere are also some efforts on a simpler packageing/software center 17:48
shtylmanbut not sure who is heading that up17:48
danttishtylman: well I'll be heading a new sw center :P17:49
shtylmanexcellent17:49
shtylmanthere is the answer to that one17:49
ScottKbertoldo: dantti is also in Brazil (unless I remember wrong).17:49
danttishtylman: of whom were you talking about packagekit guy?17:49
shtylmanbertoldo: and then there is the kde faster login work (with is more of a research and try effort) but is all c++17:49
danttiScottK: I am17:49
bertoldogreat17:50
lex79JontheEchidna: can you ack? bug 589782 58978617:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 589782 in kdevelop-php (Ubuntu) "Please sync kdevelop-php 1.0.0-1 with Debian unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58978217:50
lex79bug 58978617:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 589786 in kdevelop-php-docs (Ubuntu) "Please sync kdevelop-php-docs 1.0.0-1 with Debian unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58978617:50
lex79thanks17:50
bertoldoI'm available to working in anything you guys need help...17:51
shtylmana big thing we always need help on is testing related things17:51
bertoldogive a document to read, a code to understand or anything else... I'll do my best to help.17:52
shtylmanbasically, but getting the new versions of packages and trying them17:52
shtylmanif you have experience to then look into the problem and fix it.. that is even better17:52
shtylmanone very easy way to grab the source code to any package (if you don't already know) is to use "apt-get source <packagename>"17:53
shtylmanthis gets you the source to be able to build that particular package17:53
bertoldogreat, didn't know that...17:53
shtylmannice way to start looking at the source of some programs you are interested in17:53
bertoldoI'm not sure if I'm reading the right document to set up my enviroment to compile the things...17:54
bertoldoDo you recommend me anything?17:54
shtylmanbertoldo: depends what you want to compile and how17:54
shtylmanthat question is kinda open ended17:54
shtylmancause many packages use all sorts of different build tools17:55
bertoldook17:55
shtylmankde uses CMake, another common one is autoconf (used by lots of projects), and then Qt uses qmake17:55
shtylmanif you get a package with apt-get source17:55
shtylmanyou can also do: apt-get build-dep <package name>17:56
shtylmanto install any build dependencies17:56
bertoldogreat...17:56
ScottKbertoldo: There is a lot to learn and almost everyone here is a volunteer, so we have limited time.  This is a welcoming group that is looking for new members, so don't get discouraged if it takes a little while to get started.17:56
shtylmanbasically... start tinkering around with something small to get the hang of things17:56
shtylmanis my biggest recommendation17:56
bertoldothanks ScottK17:56
shtylmancause there are lots of different ways to do all sorts of things17:57
bertoldothanks a lot too shtylman17:57
bertoldoI'll look around on launchpad to find something...17:58
bertoldoThere is one thing that call my attention, it was the Ubuntu One client.17:58
bertoldoWe dont have one for KDE.17:58
bertoldodantii, you talked about this one? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuMaverickKPackagekitAppStore18:01
danttibertoldo: yes, I'm planning to create a simpler interface just for applications instalation18:03
danttibut i need to finish the debconf support first18:03
bertoldodantti, the AppCenter will run on top of package tool kit?18:08
danttibertoldo: the kde one will18:09
CIA-91[libqapt] jmthomas * 1134609 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (4 files) Use a DBus interface class to interact with the worker, rather than doing it all by ourselves in QApt::Backend. Convenient!18:39
shadeslayerapachelogger: btw will the doodle page be created by the council? or can i create one too? like i created one...18:50
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macoattempt at upgrading my lucid vm to mav went bad19:16
macoi just logged in and after the splash fades out, i just have a black background and panel. no plasmoids on desktop and kickoff wont open19:16
jussimaco: yeah, riddell mentioned that maverick crashed in VM19:17
jussijust after the login he said19:17
macooh!19:18
macoif i wait 2 minutes it restored my terminal from before i rebooted19:18
shadeslayeryep.. but on real hardware it works fine 19:18
shadeslayeronly problem is that you get 2 panels19:18
CIA-91[libqapt] jmthomas * 1134621 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (package.cpp package.h) Move a lot of public member variables that should have been private into PackagePrivate19:18
macoholy moly!19:19
macoload average is over 7!19:19
macoand no i didnt get a second panel19:20
CIA-91[libqapt] jmthomas * 1134622 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/backend.h (log message trimmed)19:20
CIA-91We don't really need to be exposing packageSourceList() to the public. It's only19:20
CIA-91there so that QApt::Package can get info from libapt-pkg's insane iterators.19:20
CIA-91[libqapt] jmthomas * 1134628 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (package.cpp package.h) Move m_packageIter to PackagePrivate. I tried to also pass packageIter by pointer from the Backend, but when I used that approach it would crash the first time you accessed a method that used the packageIter :(19:38
macoawww :( mav wont do unity mode19:40
yofelis something wrong with drkonqi in maverick? rekonq crashed with segfault, I installed rekonq-dbgsym, but it still doesn't want to retrace it19:42
yofeloh, from xsession-errors: ptrace: Operation not permitted.19:43
yofel/tmp/kde-yofel/drkonqileu611.tmp:2: Error in sourced command file: No thread selected19:43
macoyofel: have to run your traces as root19:45
macoyofel: or umm..change something in /sys or /etc19:45
apacheloggerargh!!!19:53
apacheloggerthis is so horrible19:53
jussithis is cool!!! http://ppenz.blogspot.com/2010/06/version-control-support-in-dolphin.html19:53
jussijust to augment apachelogger's horribleness19:53
shtylmanjussi: when that gets git support, let me know :)19:54
jussishtylman: it kinda has... :P19:54
jussi"A very basic version of a Git plugin is already part of kdesdk. "19:54
ScottKjussi: What does that do that kdesvn doesn't already do?19:54
jussiScottK: its in dolphin?19:55
shtylmanScottK: work with thinks not in kde19:55
* ScottK almost never uses dolphin.19:55
ScottKshtylman: I meant the dolphin plugin, not git.19:55
* ScottK is mostly converted on chromium. Don't push your luck.19:56
yofelwhat bug reporting address do I need to give drkonqi if I run it by hand so I can report the crash?19:56
shtylmanScottK: give it time.. don't worry.. it will win you over :)19:59
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yofelfiled bug 589841 about drkonqi20:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 589841 in kdebase-runtime (Ubuntu) "[Maverick] drkonqi can't retrace crashes anymore" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58984120:34
shtylmanScottK: im thinking about going to DC for july 4th fireworks... anything good I should see in the area.. already planning to see a museum or two20:41
shtylmanand landmarks20:41
shtylmanwhat about non mainstream stuff20:42
JontheEchidnaWashington Zoo20:42
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shtylmanhmm.20:42
pinkrobotkingbehold the pink robot king!20:42
shtylmanpinkrobotking: wtf20:42
shtylmanapachelogger: I refuse to address pinkrobotking20:43
shadeslayer_pinkrobotking: really now... too much pink :P20:43
shadeslayer_hehe :D20:43
shadeslayer_shtylman: +120:43
JontheEchidnaironically, IRC is coloring shtylman pink and pinkrobotking red20:43
shtylman*sigh*20:43
* shadeslayer_ mumbles darkly about robots being evil..20:43
pinkrobotkingomg!20:43
shadeslayer_shtylman: youre blue here.. blue compliments pink :P20:43
ScottKshtylman: Those are usually the main things.  Don't forget to get your picture taken in front of the Whitehouse.20:44
shadeslayer_JontheEchidna: youre red here :P20:44
shtylmanhaha20:44
pinkrobotking...20:44
shtylmanoh no20:45
pinkrobotkingWhat we need is to redo launchpad with working.20:45
shtylmanapachelogger: there will be pain20:45
JontheEchidnachanserv is protecting channel modes :(20:45
shadeslayer_hehe..20:45
shtylmanjussi: ping20:45
JontheEchidnapinkrobotking: redo launchpad?20:46
shadeslayer_JontheEchidna: like recode lp :P20:46
shadeslayer_so that it works 20:46
JontheEchidnaO.o20:46
JontheEchidnain #plasma: [15:46:38] *** rrix is now known as pinkrobot0002.20:47
* shadeslayer_ wonders where to find kubuntu tee's on shop.canonical.com20:47
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=== JontheEchidna is now known as pinkrobot_t800
shadeslayer_robots are taking over the world :P20:48
pinkrobot0003pinkrobot_t800: ooo, I like that20:48
pinkrobot_t800:D20:48
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bluerobothehehe :D20:48
pinkrobotking/me hugs the pinkrobots20:49
pinkrobot0003pink robots! we must rise up against the blue20:49
pinkrobotkingan army of pink and we shall take down apple and microsoft!20:49
pinkrobotkingFOR FREEDOM!!!!20:49
pinkrobot0003FREEEEEEEDOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!20:49
* bluerobot would prefer taking down apple and MS to get EA working on linux games20:50
pinkrobot0003bluerobots are not allowed speaking rights20:50
pinkrobotkingEA SHALL BE SQUISHED!!20:50
bluerobotpinkrobotking: :P20:50
bluerobotand yet i can speak :>20:50
pinkrobotkingkubotu: np20:50
kubotupinkrobotking doesn't exist on last.fm, perhaps they need to: lastfm user <username>20:50
macothis channel has gotten so weird20:50
pinkrobotkingomg!20:51
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pinkrobotkingkubotu: np apachelogger20:51
kubotuapachelogger is listening to "Shine (Babylon mix)" by Cyndi Lauper [Queer as Folk: The Final Season] -- see http://www.last.fm/user/apachelogger for more20:51
pinkrobotkingI feel sort of shiny all of a sudden :P20:51
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pinkrobot0003woa20:51
pinkrobot0003np is cool20:51
shadeslayer_pinkrobot0003: you didnt know about it?20:51
pinkrobot0003nope20:51
shadeslayer_kubotu: np20:51
kubotushadeslayer_ listened to ""complicated" (avril lavigne)" by Avril Lavigne 8 days ago; [http://open.spotify.com/track/5o4cq6gKFAbR1V7wITwB7n] -- see http://www.last.fm/user/shadeslayer_ for more20:51
shadeslayer_hmm.. that must have been my Sisters playlist :P20:52
pinkrobot0003np20:52
pinkrobot0003kubotu: np20:52
kubotupinkrobot0003 doesn't exist on last.fm, perhaps they need to: lastfm user <username>20:52
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shadeslayer_pinkrobot0003: np <username>20:52
shtylmankubotu: np shtylman20:52
kubotushtylman listened to "Company Calls" by Death Cab for Cutie [We Have the Facts and We're Voting Yes, 2000] 3 months ago; [http://open.spotify.com/track/451jjbOKeucUT51WX6eemf] -- see http://www.last.fm/user/shtylman for more20:52
shadeslayer_hehe20:52
shtylmanhehe20:52
shtylmanold20:53
shadeslayer_that happens with me as well20:53
neversfeldekubotu: np20:53
kubotuneversfelde listened to "Broadway" by Goo Goo Dolls [Dizzy Up the Girl, 1998] 2 hours ago; [http://open.spotify.com/track/3dbywb1zxwI3h1m9o304eY] -- see http://www.last.fm/user/neversfelde for more20:53
neversfeldeworks :)20:53
shadeslayer_hehe :)20:53
shtylmankubotu: np ScottK20:54
kubotuScottK hasn't played anything recently20:54
shadeslayer_pinkrobotking: smileys look funny with liberation mono20:54
shtylmantisk tisk20:54
pinkrobotkinghm20:54
shadeslayer_or maybe its just me :P20:55
pinkrobotkingshadeslayer_: you non-believer shall get but one simley from me!20:55
pinkrobotking  _______ 20:55
pinkrobotking / /___ / 20:55
pinkrobotking/ /  |_ \ 20:55
pinkrobotking\ \ ___) |20:55
pinkrobotking \_\____/ 20:55
shadeslayer_hmm.. whats that...20:56
pinkrobotkinga heart obviously :P20:56
* shadeslayer_ tilts screen sideways20:56
shadeslayer_pinkrobotking: doesnt look like one :P20:56
shadeslayer_more like a deformed G :P20:56
shadeslayer_neversfelde: bug 569897 happens in lucid too20:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 569897 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) "user logout fails every second time on Lucid" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56989720:57
shadeslayer_um wait 20:57
pinkrobotkingnow that is hardly my fault :P20:57
shadeslayer_neversfelde: i mean that it happens during boot,i get that message20:58
shadeslayer_pinkrobotking: did you get my question earlier about the doodle?20:59
pinkrobotkingI probably did20:59
pinkrobotkingFluff up! http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fluffy/12414204094877120:59
macohmm every time i try to move a window on my maverick vm, it goes to load average 521:01
shadeslayer_neversfelde: ninja's dont exsist and yet you mention it in your FB profile :P21:02
maconinjas dont exist?21:03
neversfeldeahhhhh21:03
macobut i met a guy at an art store who was studying ninjitsu!21:03
shadeslayer_maco: kubuntu ninjas :P21:03
neversfeldeeverything is broken now21:03
maconeversfelde: you upgraded to mav too?21:03
neversfeldeno21:04
pinkrobotkingkubotu: np apachelogger21:14
kubotuapachelogger listened to "Stay With Me" by Shearer [Eve] 2 minutes ago; [http://open.spotify.com/track/4kKVdqJeaagU6pA0pEroTI] -- see http://www.last.fm/user/apachelogger for more21:14
pinkrobotkingnow that is wrong21:14
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sheytanHi there22:14
sheytani'm testing maveric alpha1 now22:14
sheytanand i find the 'lost and found' section in system settings none needed22:15
sheytanbut before i  start saying what you could move where (KCMs) please tell me somebody if you're going to clean it up? ;)22:15
shtylmansheytan: don't follow the question22:19
shtylman*I don't22:20
sheytanshtylman in systemsettings in maveric alpha 1 there is a additional section at the bottom called 'lost and found'. There are KCM like software management, updates, user management etc. To remove that section and save space (don't make systemsettings a big window), we can move thoes KCMs to other sections ;)22:21
sheytanget it now? :D22:21
shtylmansheytan: I am sure those will move... probly what happened was that the section names/categories changed and those kcm you are talking about are ones we manage (iirc) so they will be updated22:22
shtylmanfile a bug on launchpad if there isn't one already22:23
sheytanshtylman, will do it when it will still exist in aplha 2 or 3 ;)22:23
sheytanbut it's a good idea to split software management and updates to independent KCMs22:24
shtylmansheytan: why wait?22:25
sheytanshtylman well, you're right. Will do it now ;D22:25
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shadeslayersheytan: thats a problem with kde 4.5 :)22:29
sheytanshadeslayer with thoes kcms?22:29
sheytanshtylman how do i report a bug on  launchpad? :D22:30
shadeslayersame thing is in lucid22:30
shadeslayersheytan: ubuntu-bug <app?22:31
sheytanshadeslayer i'm on kubuntu  :D22:31
sheytanbut with a browser22:31
sheytanhow to ? :D22:31
shadeslayersheytan: so.. :)22:31
shadeslayersheytan: same thing :P22:31
sheytanshadeslayer is it ported to Qt? :D22:31
shadeslayersheytan: yep :)22:31
sheytani don't want any gnome deps here :D22:31
sheytanWow ;D22:31
sheytancool ;D22:31
shadeslayerwont be :P22:31
sheytanshadeslayer how is it called?22:32
sheytanthat app22:32
shadeslayerits basically a apport hook which collects all data,with the frontend being a small qt load bar22:32
shadeslayer*loading22:32
shadeslayersheytan: well like if i find a bug with choqok,i do : ubuntu-bug choqok22:32
shadeslayersince this is a systemsetting kcm module i would guess kdebase...22:33
sheytanshadeslayer ok, thank you :)22:33
shadeslayersheytan: so like : ubuntu-bug kdebase-bin22:33
shadeslayernot entirely sure if it should be bin or data22:34
sheytanshadeslayer now starting up maveric :D22:34
sheytansomeone will move it to the right place ;D22:34
shadeslayersheytan: kool... i have a chroot of maverick :)22:34
shadeslayersheytan: well finding the right package makes it alot easier :P22:34
shadeslayer!bugs | sheytan : might also want to read this22:34
ubottusheytan : might also want to read this: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots22:34
CIA-91[libqapt] jmthomas * 1134670 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/package.cpp We want to use isEmpty here23:01
pinkrobotkingwho is empty?23:02
JontheEchidnaQStrings, potentially23:03
JontheEchidnaI had been using isNull23:03
JontheEchidnawhich I dont' think would have caught the failure I had been anticipating23:04
Tm_Tpinkrobotking: o  k23:04
pinkrobotkingoh well, 0 != "" ;)23:05
JontheEchidnaxactly23:05
lex79o/23:10
JontheEchidnalex79: with pkg-kde-tools, any reason for 0.9.1ubuntu1 instead of 0.9.0ubuntu1?23:14
lex79uhm23:14
JontheEchidnaoh, it hadn't appeared on changelog.debian.org yet, my mistake23:14
lex790.9.1 is the new version23:14
lex79kk23:14
pinkrobotkingJontheEchidna: ping around?23:58

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