=== gorgonizer_ is now known as gorgonizer [00:53] amichair: I updated that page. [01:16] apachelogger: you were looking for me the other day? [01:17] DarkwingDuck: no, I was just trying to abuse your nick for fun stuff IIRC :P [01:17] ;) [01:18] apachelogger: quick question... qt for kde/kubuntu reasons... python or c++? [01:18] DarkwingDuck: c++ [01:18] for kde anyway [01:18] for kubuntu it depends [01:19] But, 99% of what we use QT is upstream anyway? [01:19] like jockey, there is a common core implemented independent of GTK, so jockey-kde is python and uses that core [01:19] DarkwingDuck: Qt! [01:19] evening :) [01:19] hey jjesse [01:19] DarkwingDuck: I am not sure if 99% is really the number, but something like that [01:19] que pasa DarkwingDuck [01:19] we do not have a whole lot of specific tool usecases anyway [01:19] Job hunting :/ [01:20] bummer on that [01:20] good luck [01:20] heh. [01:20] apachelogger: got ya. [01:20] apachelogger: now, I know what to learn. [01:22] jjesse: Thanks man. It's not easy [01:24] wellt hen [01:24] soyuz prevents me from doing a working fluffy image [01:24] awesome [01:24] \o/ [01:25] * apachelogger goes into pissed mode and watches doctor who [01:26] Burn Notice starts up again tonight :D [02:02] apachelogger: amor has a little kitteh that runs across the tops of your windows (or on your panel if it can't find space on the window) Might be neat to have a Fluffeh Kitteh [02:02] omg [02:02] true [02:02] fregl: ^ [02:03] one would want to disable amor saying ktips by default (we ship none, maybe it could say "so magic" :D) [02:04] aha! [02:04] people have re-discovered my u1 ppa [02:05] they shall all install junk and then I will rename the packages and provide no transition [02:05] muahahaha [02:05] heh [02:05] kubotu: identica status [02:05] http://home.samfundet.no/~sandsmark/unicorn.png possible logo for !fluffy :P (24 minutes and 53 seconds ago via Choqok) [02:05] right [02:05] fregl: ^ [02:09] JontheEchidna: that said, currently the packages conflict with proposed anyway, apparently they finally come round to make gnome-keyring work outside gnome [02:09] weren't they going to use new python keyring shiz that's supposed to work with kwallet? [02:09] yes [02:09] and no [02:10] :D [02:10] I really do not get what they want to do and when and why and how [02:10] and :( [02:10] there is 0, I repeat, ZERO, communication to the outside world about u1 development [02:10] wicked if you ask me, but so be it [02:16] wow.. KNR is really cool [02:21] :-) [02:22] ScottK: I got myself an AcerOne at the end [02:22] * ScottK nods [02:23] And everything works [02:31] Excellent. [02:47] [libqapt] jmthomas * 1134344 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/example/cacheupdatewidget.cpp Don't leak our downloadModel [02:49] JontheEchidna: Would you please help dantii with understanding #586497. It looks like something that ought to get fixed if the report is accurate. [02:49] ScottK: that's probably the packagekit backend not following the apt cron stuff you set in software-properties-{kde,gtk} [02:50] Any idea how to fix? [02:50] the frontend only shows what the packagekit daemon is doing in this instance [02:50] Ah, right. [02:50] So reassign to packagekit? [02:51] yep === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna [03:57] KNR is working great on my X41 Tablet too [03:57] I think I'm going to get the Asus Tablet and run tests on that as well [04:20] JontheEchidna: I've just uploaded pkg-kde-tools (they switched to kde/doc path ) and kaffeine into my ppa, see tomorrow, g' night [04:20] ;) [04:21] lex79: they never went away from kde/doc path, we're the ones that switched [04:22] JontheEchidna: uhm, right :D It's late here my brain is melted :) [04:22] oh, wait [04:22] uhm [04:22] you're right, actually [04:23] JontheEchidna: The settled on kde4 and we stayed with kde for kde4 stuff. [04:23] ScottK: http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/p/pkg-kde-tools/pkg-kde-tools_0.9.0/changelog [04:23] ah, ok :) [04:23] I asked them to switch their .install files to kde* instead of kde4 so it'd work for both of us and they switched the doc path instead. [04:24] well, g' night guys :P [04:24] Good night. === steveire_ is now known as steveire [10:32] apachelogger: why is that uni-thing from sandsmark pooping a pink egg? awesome :) [10:33] amor sounds good... and getting rid of amarok (purely for space reasons) is always a good idea [10:33] maybe we can include bangarangaragangarang instead [10:42] * Mamarok larts fregl [10:42] always those people without humor... it is a sad world [10:42] very sad [10:45] * fregl things after being punished for suggesting the amarok removal, now they have to do it, out of protest [10:46] let's see what apachelogger thinks about that [10:54] any idea if we have kubuntu lucid t shirts at the canonical shop? [11:47] fregl: it is begone since I said that yesterday :P [11:47] the unithing from sandsmark is pooping an egg because I wanted something pink and he felt like drawing an egg ;) [11:51] JontheEchidna: I got mail about the u1 file conflict already :P [11:51] hm [11:52] did soyuz explode or something? [11:52] fluffy-meta and fluffy-unicorn are stuck in queue schedulded in 2 hrs for a lot more than 2 hrs [11:58] that does not even make sense https://launchpad.net/builders/ [11:58] apparently most of the ppa buildds are idle :/ [11:58] is it possible to change pkg-kde-tools so it enables --parallel by default, like it does with cdbs? [12:00] debfx: unfortunately no [12:00] debfx: the cdbs thing was only applied to the few core-kde packages [12:00] the dh7 magic is the same for all kde packages === shadesla1er is now known as shadeslayer [12:19] apachelogger: it shouldn't be that much work to test-rebuild the packages and disable parallel building for the ones that ftbfs [12:20] apachelogger, so did you like my mail? [12:21] did you forward it to lydia? [12:21] oh, you did not send it to lydia? [12:21] nah [12:21] fwd'd [12:21] maybe you could be like you know: i don't want this to get public! [12:22] could have been even [12:22] lol [12:22] Nightrose: ^ [12:22] Nightrose: we are black mailing you now! [12:22] first mail in your inbox already :P [12:22] ohmy [12:23] jeeeeez [12:23] * Nightrose slaps KRF and apachelogger [12:23] :D [12:24] you better make us members of the illuminati or who knows, maybe this picture ends up all over the news papers [12:24] such terrible things have happended in the past [12:24] one not-so-carefully entered email address, and there you have it [12:25] oh [12:25] s/illuminati/kde e.v. :P [12:34] * \sh thinks apachelogger is really charming today ;) [12:34] oh look what the cat dragged in [12:34] :* [12:35] * apachelogger hugs \\sh and Nightrose and KRF and debfx [12:35] * \sh pinks ;) [12:35] who's that last guy you're hugging there? [12:36] KRF: the one who fixes KDE stuff KDE does not want to fix :P [12:36] ah, cool [12:36] so he's in chargo of fixing knetworkmanager? :P [12:36] *shrug* [12:36] typos-- [12:37] oh great [12:37] bangarang git comes with monochrome icon [12:37] <\sh> whatever bangarang is ;) [12:38] lol [12:38] dont know that song? :P [12:38] what is banagarang? [12:38] !info bangarang [12:38] bangarang (source: bangarang): Multimedia player with a lightweight interface for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-1 (lucid), package size 324 kB, installed size 1464 kB [12:38] * \sh doesn't want to know actually, because it sounds very dangerous [12:39] oh [12:39] <\sh> apachelogger, I missed you during UDS-M [12:39] now I got reminded of something [12:39] \sh: I was hiding in IRC :P [12:39] bangarang is a bit like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVJLFfRYOj0 [12:40] gotta relogin into my fancy new KDE [12:41] <\sh> apachelogger, why didn't you tell me it's something I can't show @office...now all people are watching this video [12:41] <\sh> .oO(good that they are not dacing here right now)= [12:42] lol [12:42] that song is just wrong... [12:45] \sh: lol ^^ [12:45] next time you shall get the qt4 dance :P [12:45] jussi: more than that [12:45] <\sh> apachelogger, this is more office compatible ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkK-23zVtsU ;) WE WON ! [12:46] I have heared about that [12:46] I find the song mediocre though [12:46] also the english is sort of german :P [12:46] <\sh> apachelogger, well, at least stefan raab helds to his promises ;) [12:46] this lady could have done better IMHO [12:47] \sh: maybe he bought the win? [12:47] <\sh> apachelogger, I don't think you can "buy" the votes of people calling in [12:48] no, but the software developer's so that their machinery counts "wrongish" [12:48] <\sh> apachelogger, and about the denglish -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2naZgBhH9tc [12:48] or the other humans in the chain so that the results change somewhat [12:49] <\sh> apachelogger, anyways...ralph siegel is defeated...and mr. raab is now the nations hero [12:49] * apachelogger does not know who ralph siegel is [12:49] sounds like someone from the reeperbahn though [12:53] <\sh> apachelogger, the old eurovision german songwriter and producer ;) old fart [12:54] *nod* [13:08] * txwikinger thinks apachelogger has a deficit in History knowledge [13:09] apachelogger: got a sec> [13:09] that entirely depends what for [13:09] apachelogger: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/shadeslayer [13:09] apachelogger: can you write me a testimonial :P [13:09] oh my [13:09] applying for membership :) [13:10] I recon this does take a lot longer than a second :/ [13:10] shadeslayer: kubuntu or ubuntu? [13:10] like... who is this person? [13:10] apachelogger: kubuntu [13:10] its me :P [13:11] shadeslayer: then I would not ask a member of the council to write a testimonial ;) [13:11] apachelogger: Pretty much everything's monochrome icons in 4.5 apparently. [13:11] apachelogger: ah.. :P [13:11] * ScottK wonders if Sput got the word? [13:11] anyone else interested... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/shadeslayer [13:11] ScottK: yeah, but not in 4.4, which makes bangarang look odd [13:11] shadeslayer: You need the ninja stuff of your page.. it is merely a suspicion that they exist :) [13:12] they do not! [13:12] As I said :) [13:12] shadeslayer: it is really not necessary to collect testimonials for kubuntu btw [13:12] hehe,well thats one of my major contribs... [13:12] apachelogger: hmm.. well.. just one or two :) [13:12] you will be grilled eitherway :P [13:12] erm, interviewed [13:12] haha xD [13:12] shadeslayer: unsubstantial rumors [13:12] apachelogger: Yes, soyuz did explode. The last release "didn't go very well". [13:12] ScottK: that is unfortunate :/ [13:13] * txwikinger heard something about BBQ [13:13] txwikinger: hehe :P [13:13] I was hoping to do fluffy alpha1 this weekend [13:13] and that before breakfast [13:13] apachelogger: so soon? :) [13:13] apachelogger: It's just some web service, not like it's important it be reliable. [13:13] well, demand is high, so ... [13:13] ;-) [13:13] ^^ [13:13] apachelogger: hehe.. so youll go with maverick or lucid? [13:13] * apachelogger could build packages at the OBS :P [13:13] no breakage there [13:13] OBS ? [13:14] open build service (the suse thingy) [13:14] ah.. [13:14] which also happens to build deb [13:14] apachelogger: does it build the same way as lp? [13:14] no [13:14] it builds rpms [13:14] and debs [13:14] and for more than one distro each [13:15] certainly the debs will not be as fancy as when built within a debian-based toolchain but oh well [13:15] at least it works [13:15] * shadeslayer puts ISO testing in wiki [13:15] unlike other services for package building :P [13:15] * txwikinger would want to read the t&c's first [13:15] txwikinger: hehe :P [13:15] odd [13:15] they probably make you sell your grandmother to them [13:15] * apachelogger thinks that his iso splash image is a bit wrongish [13:16] ah! [13:16] my pcx got 3 planes [13:16] how comes that the plymouth splash screen is ubuntu when you install kubuntu? [13:16] whatever that means ^^ [13:17] hi maco [13:18] when is Riddell coming back? [13:18] * txwikinger has everything ready for Kubuntu Bug Hug Day on Monday [13:18] just need to send out the announcements [13:18] txwikinger: ill help you out with the next to next one :D [13:18] shadeslayer: cool [13:18] exams till the 11th :( [13:18] shadeslayer: sundayish [13:18] he said he will be away the whole weekend [13:18] always those students [13:18] apachelogger: ok :) [13:18] * txwikinger is jealous [13:19] txwikinger: which one are you doing this monday? [13:19] * txwikinger could now just go and pass the exams without studying :) [13:19] kdenetworks [13:19] ah ok :) [13:20] but feel free to make suggestions for the list [13:20] * txwikinger has in fact given such exams :) [13:22] Something is wrong [13:22] * txwikinger cannot find any meetings in today's calendar [13:24] * txwikinger is looking for a nice speech synthesizer [13:24] * txwikinger wants to put some hilarious messages in his nuisance VM box [13:25] jovie is awesome [13:25] although it is not really a synthesizer ;) [13:25] * shadeslayer wonders what the kubuntu council will do with him :P [13:25] apachelogger: when is the next meeting? [13:26] shadeslayer: whenever someone bothers to schedule one ;) [13:27] ScottK: any ETA on a soyuz fix btw? [13:27] apachelogger: :P [13:27] * apachelogger thinks he fixed the splash now [13:27] soyuz is always broken, so what's the difference? [13:28] now it is broken beyond usage :/ [13:30] we all live in a yellow submarine [13:30] that why it is so crowded [13:31] * txwikinger cannot find jovie [13:31] fregl: http://imagebin.ca/view/Q_JA3ns.html !!!!! [13:31] omg [13:32] apachelogger: make the heart blue instead of white :P [13:33] * txwikinger thinks apachelogger should make Valentine's Day the release date [13:33] thatll be perfect :P [13:35] apachelogger: <3 [13:35] apachelogger: I just wrote a mail mentioning fluffy to the sueddeutschland@lists.fsfe.org list :) [13:35] spread _the word_ :) [13:36] :D :D :D [13:36] * apachelogger still needs to master up a blog post [13:38] and a facebook page that they can compile a list of fluffy users [13:38] apachelogger: where do you guys have a meeting? ( whenever you have one :P ) [13:38] txwikinger: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fluffy/124142040948771 [13:38] GO LIKEY LIKEY IT! [13:39] shadeslayer: either #ubuntu-meeting or here [13:39] depends on the schedule though, so the location is usually announced along time and date [13:39] * shadeslayer sends apachelogger friend invite on fb... [13:40] shadeslayer: you have an all wrong countdown banner there... [13:40] apachelogger: where? [13:40] facebook [13:40] left column [13:40] I see ubuntu countdown [13:41] * shadeslayer checks [13:41] apachelogger: is there a kubuntu one too? [13:41] yes, somewhere [13:41] :P [13:41] in either case none > ubuntu :P [13:42] fregl: http://imagebin.ca/view/2P_ZpXB.html [13:42] hehe :D [13:42] any suggetions? [13:43] apachelogger: removed :P [13:43] * shadeslayer continues his search for kubuntu countdown [13:43] +banner [13:47] apachelogger: you might also want to steer clear of lp since the build queue is HUGE [13:47] no wonder considering soyuz is all broken [13:48] so much so https://launchpad.net/builders shows unknown :P [13:48] for the queue part >< [13:48] must go beyond python's int range then ;) [13:49] apachelogger: oh and can you talk to Riddell when he comes back to set up a meeting regarding my membership? [13:49] !meeting [13:49] Team meetings are held in #ubuntu-meeting - See « /msg ubottu logs » for transcripts. [13:49] hm [13:49] jussi: tsimpson: maybe it is just me but it would be nice ot have schedule urls in there *shrug* [13:50] apachelogger: as soon as we get the plugin back and working.... [13:50] kcool [13:50] * jussi curses google cal [13:51] jussi: can you give me the schedule? a link or something? [13:51] apachelogger: we used to have @schedule which would tell the next meeting [13:51] shadeslayer: you can schedule one yourself [13:51] !fridge [13:51] The Fridge is the Ubuntu's Community News website, and can be found at http://fridge.ubuntu.com [13:51] jussi: no, I mean the kubuntu meeting schedule page [13:51] apachelogger: awesome [13:51] so I know what is currently on the agenda [13:51] apachelogger: ahh [13:51] yeah, give me the url and Ill add it [13:52] jussi: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings [13:52] shadeslayer: ^ [13:52] also you need to add yourself there :P [13:52] apachelogger: ;) [13:52] apachelogger: is Monday fine? [13:52] oh [13:52] illl just get the time [13:52] shadeslayer: you need to query that [13:52] shadeslayer: usually we use doodle to find an appropriate slot [13:52] !meeting-#kubuntu is Kubuntu Meetings are usually held in #ubuntu-meeting - Agenda and info: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings [13:52] I'll remember that, jussi [13:53] apachelogger: ^ [13:53] shadeslayer: also see recent mailing list info regarding meetings I suppose [13:53] !meeting [13:53] Team meetings are held in #ubuntu-meeting - See « /msg ubottu logs » for transcripts. [13:53] !meeting-#kubuntu-devel is Kubuntu Meetings are usually held in #ubuntu-meeting - Agenda and info: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings [13:53] !meeting [13:53] Kubuntu Meetings are usually held in #ubuntu-meeting - Agenda and info: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings [13:53] :) [13:53] super awesome [13:53] * apachelogger hugs jussi [13:53] * jussi hugs apachelogger [14:03] apachelogger: Riddell http://www.doodle.com/7b2a2rbdtqb5g3n5 [14:09] apachelogger: who is in the council btw? [14:09] ScottK: afaik, only "system icons" are supposed to be monochromeish (which in 4.5 KDE means they still look gorgeous because they have greyscale shading etc), but app icons are still colorful [14:09] ScottK: also, suprisingly, the upgrade from intrepid beta via jaunty and karmic to lucid on my mom's notebook went quite well :) [14:11] organising council members oif on my todo for monday [14:12] Riddell: :) [14:12] Riddell: im applying for membership... [14:14] ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, [14:14] Sput: Great to hear. I don't find it suprising since we tested that upgrade path pretty thoroughly. [14:16] DarkwingDuck: comma flood? :P [14:31] ok im going,please look have a look at the doodle http://www.doodle.com/7b2a2rbdtqb5g3n5,to confirm meet timings :) [14:33] 'ello dudes and dudettes :) [14:36] hi rgreening [14:37] :) [14:44] ScottK: I tend to break upgrade paths in kubuntu :) [14:44] ;-) [14:44] but yeah. I was a bit surprised that I had to go through all of the versions (I'd have expected jaunty to jump to lucid directly), but looks like nothing seriously broke :) [14:45] Sput: I had fun upgrading from Intrepid straight to Lucid [15:19] <\sh> Sput, dist-upgrades only from LTS 2 LTS are supported, or from Devel Release to Next Devel Release until LTS ;) [15:19] <\sh> Sput, hey man btw...long time no see ;) [15:20] [libqapt] jmthomas * 1134539 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (backend.cpp backend.h) We can forward these signals right along. No need to have a function to do that. [15:34] jtechidna: btw, why are you not using a dbus adaptor? === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna [15:35] apachelogger: for QApt::Backend? [15:36] for talking to the worker in general [15:36] the worker has a dbusadaptor [15:36] for talking _to_ the worker [15:37] currently you are doing the queries yourself while you have a perfectly fine xml file lying around, dont you? [15:37] morning guys [15:37] just generate a adaptor for the backend using the xml file and use that [15:37] apachelogger: is there a way to make that adaptor do async calls? [15:37] define call [15:38] generally everything is async with it [15:38] DBusConnection::systemBus().asyncCall() [15:38] +Q [15:38] the only way to make it sync is by using it inside a call itself [15:38] non-blocking call [15:38] like foo(adaptor->setBar("ll)); [15:38] that would be blocking [15:38] adaptor->setBar("ll") is not [15:39] reason being that almost evyerthing from the adaptor will return a dbuspendingreply or what it is called [15:39] and that thingy is generally async [15:39] nice [15:40] JontheEchidna: take a look at the u1-kde codebase, I think I do both blocking and non-blocking there [15:40] or at least I did at some point ^^ [15:40] all hail dbus mast0r haxX0r apachelogger! [15:40] \o/ [15:44] [libqapt] jmthomas * 1134543 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/qaptbatch.cpp String changes [15:47] [libqapt] jmthomas * 1134545 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (9 files in 2 dirs) Implement API for the worker to use to ask questions. Use this API to implement apt's media change functionality TODO: Get qapt-batch to listen for these and present the questions to the user [15:48] ^other possible questions include debconf, "do you want to install untrusted packages", conf file changes, etc [15:49] now to work on the dbus adapt0r [15:57] How Du I get in KNR the search and launch on the search and launch page back? [15:59] add a new activity [15:59] go to configure it [15:59] set the activity to S&L [15:59] I think [16:00] \sh: true enough :) we should beer up again! [16:01] beering up ^^ [16:01] ohhh [16:01] soyuz is doing things \o/ [16:01] Ah.. ok [16:02] sweet, in like half an hur I should be able to roll a working fluffy image [16:02] * apachelogger goes outside sipping tea meanwhile [16:02] there is a Suggests: libxine1-ffmpeg missing in the minitube package for lucid, do you think this is worth a SRU? [16:05] * apachelogger doenst think so [16:05] it will only be suggested to terminal users anyway I think [16:08] ok, I like this answer :) [16:13] * apachelogger waits for publisher run [16:29] apachelogger: any advantages to doing a dbus adaptor over what I did with qapt-batch a few days ago? http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/qaptbatch.cpp?r1=1133812&r2=1133811 [16:30] * JontheEchidna is having a hard time getting the dbus adaptor itself to compile [16:31] JontheEchidna: adaptor is preferrred in general [16:31] also handier and easier to extend if necessary [16:31] yes! ctrl+enter functionality back in rekonq :P [16:31] JontheEchidna: see u1-kde/src/libs/CMakeLists.txt [16:31] http://paste.ubuntu.com/444665/ [16:31] it uses the xml from u1-kde/src/auth/ [16:32] JontheEchidna: you probably need to define additional includes [16:33] * apachelogger is wondering why it is parented by BAckend and not QObject anyway [16:33] oh oh oh [16:33] publisher through [16:34] JontheEchidna: how do you generate the adaptor? [16:35] apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/444669/ in src/CMakeLists.txt [16:35] oh [16:35] ah [16:35] JontheEchidna: you want an interface ^^ [16:35] silly me [16:36] qt4_add_dbus_interface(foo_SRCS some.xml Filename) [16:37] same error [16:39] ehm [16:39] JontheEchidna: please commit [16:39] kk [16:39] oh [16:39] JontheEchidna: hold on [16:39] JontheEchidna: you need to do that in the backend cmakelists [16:39] not the worker [16:39] not sure if that is the problem though :) [16:40] It's in backend's cmakelists.txt [16:40] if not please commit [16:40] kk [16:40] oh [16:40] ha [16:40] I changed it to add_dbus_interface in worker, tho [16:41]