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dotblankhow long does it take for a package to show up in the ppa when you upload it?01:34
wgrantdotblank: You should receive an email within five minutes, unless you've not properly signed the .changes file.01:35
wgrantIf it's accepted, it will appear on the PPA page at that time.01:35
dotblankRejected:02:30
dotblankgroove_0.0.1-1.dsc: Unknown section 'Multimedia'02:30
dotblanklaunchpad keeps rejecting based on that02:31
lifelessperhaps you should use one of the official sections02:37
dotblankwhoa02:47
dotblankthis is too cool02:47
dotblanksays it will build in 2 hours02:47
dotblankfirst time using launchpad02:47
dotblankbut this is very cool02:47
thumper:)02:48
dotblankbut im sad its building only for amd64 when I know it will build for lots of others02:49
thumperlike?02:51
dotblankx8602:51
dotblankarm02:51
dotblankand others02:51
thumperhmm... I don't know why it wouldn't build for those that we have builers for02:54
thumperperhaps someone like wgrant would know02:54
dotblankI think I specified and a target in the control... I think its fixed now though02:54
dotblanka target*02:54
dotblankhttps://launchpad.net/~eliaswoods/+archive/groove02:56
* thumper knows nothing about packaging02:56
nigelbI got an OOPS mail OOPS-1616MPJ103:27
ubot5https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1616MPJ103:27
nigelbI was changed the owner of a branch before merging, now I can't merge :(03:27
nigelb*I changed03:27
rippsOkay... a bunch of i386 and amd64 builders are idle, so why is my gmpc package say it has to wait 6 hours before building?03:43
nigelbppa?03:44
rippsIn fact, it said it would take 4 hours a few hours ago03:44
rippsnigelb: yes03:44
nigelbI think there are few builders only for PPA, but I'm not sure03:44
rippsThe build farm page says otherwise, 11 amd64 and 14 i386. Although, the PPA build status lists unknown for all queues03:45
nigelbwgrant: around? ^03:45
mwhudsoni think the queue status thing is unknown because of a bug in the last rollout03:46
chmacThis is out of date: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/bugtrackers/revelation-bugs03:47
chmacThe bugs are now here: http://oss.codepoet.no/revelation/issues/03:47
chmacWhich is a bitbucket site, don't think it's supported by launchpad.03:47
chmacI was going to edit the info, but seems like it would break the link. Not sure what the best course of action is. Any recommendations?03:47
thumperchmac: ask a question on the launchpad project would be best I think03:48
chmacthumper: Ok, will try to track down a url for that... :-)03:51
thumperchmac: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad03:51
chmacthumper: Just got there, thanks :-)03:52
KurtKrautIf Launchpad detects a package has a new upstream release, does it mean it will be packaged for the next Ubuntu release? Like mtr 0.77: https://launchpad.net/mtr/+download03:56
chmacthumper: Turns out there's already a question on there, so I added a little comment. Thanks for the tip. :-)03:56
chmacG'night all03:56
wgrantKurtKraut: No -- somebody needs to package the new release and get an Ubuntu developer to upload it.04:02
KurtKrautwgrant,T hat's what I though at the first moment. But why Launchpad tracks the upstream FTP server and detects the latest version as available?04:02
wgrantKurtKraut: Launchpad doesn't exist solely for Ubuntu.04:03
KurtKrautwgrant, I'm aware of that but I think this is not an explanation. Or at least, I didn't get your point.04:04
wgrantdotblank: Your .dsc says 'Architecture: amd64'. This is because the sole binary specified in debian/control is marked 'Architecture: amd64'.04:04
wgrantKurtKraut: I'm not sure why exactly it does it, but not all useful features have to be for Ubuntu's purposes.04:05
wgrantAnd automatically uploading them would be a very bad idea.04:05
lifelessI can has root?04:06
lifelesswgrant: not really different to daily builds04:06
wgrantlifeless: One is to a PPA, which you trust explicitly with your life.04:07
wgrantOne is to the primary archive. In the primary archive case, you don't trust the upstream developer.04:08
wgrantWhereas if you enable a daily PPA for a particular upstream, you probably do.04:09
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bilalakhtarJust out of curiosity: Why are the milestones 10.01-10.05 still open?07:43
kalon33hello all, it seems there is a problem with launchpad PPA buildd, only a small subset of them are taking building tasks08:12
kalon33everybody is sleeping it seems ;)08:15
wgrantkalon33: Do you have a particular build in mind that should have dispatched a while ago, but hasn't yet?08:19
wgrantAh, I see.08:20
kalon33wgrant: no, I just launch a few ones now, but looking at edge.launchpad.net/builders/, just a few are processing, one which took 50min to unpack build-deps... and there is a long queue according to build delays08:21
kalon33*build time estimations08:21
noodles775Strange, looking at the build history of the idle ones the seem to have been active recently.08:21
* noodles775 wishes we could re-enable the queue info on that page.08:22
* kalon33 wishes it too08:22
kalon33wgrant, problems with the build dispatcher ?08:23
wgrantOh. Hmm.08:23
wgrantSo they are sort of working sometimes?08:23
kalon33if you look at rosehip, this buildd has not refreshed his log for a while (55min, or it is still unpacking)08:26
kalon33(44min for shipova)08:26
fta2wgrant, all my builds are waiting, but the queue appears empty08:39
wgrantfta2: Appears empty, or appears unknown?08:39
wgrantWhat is the estimated start time on the build page?08:39
fta2hours08:39
fta25, 8, ..08:39
fta2http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/ppa-dashboard/chromium-daily.html   http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/ppa-dashboard/ubuntu-mozilla-daily--ppa.html08:40
wgrantRight, so the queue isn't empty. Something is pretty wrong.08:40
spmfta2: unrelated aside; they are sweet dashboard pages! v nice!08:41
fta2spm, thanks. i'm still trying to improve it08:42
fta2btw, bug 589068 is still impacting me08:42
ubot5Launchpad bug 589068 in Soyuz "Upload rejected with "unsupported operand type(s) for -: 'datetime.datetime' and 'NoneType'" (affected: 1, heat: 6)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58906808:42
kalon33wgrant, official buildd are maybe affected: kubuntu-meta is building for 1hour... but it is a meta, no? This shouldn't took so long08:45
wgrantkalon33: Right, something is very wrong. The same master deals with the official and PPA buildds, so it's unsurprising that they're both broken.08:45
wgrantIt is being investigated.08:45
kalon33wgrant, thanks :)08:46
cos^is is it possible to cancel rebuild of a package?08:53
wgrantcos^: It won't build if you delete the source package.08:54
wgrantBut you can't cancel the builds any other way, at the moment.08:54
cos^ok. i just accidentally started build of an old package08:55
oojahI have a ppa package that has BuildDepends including "libsqlite3-dev (>= 3.6.14.1)". The Depends line doesn't explicitly include libsqlite3. If I upload to lucid, the dependency on libsqlite3 gets set to the version in lucid, not 3.6.14.1. Is this expected behaviour?09:07
wgrantoojah: The version in the build-depends line doesn't affect that.09:10
wgrantThe shlibs file in libsqlite3-dev specifies the version of the dependency.09:10
wgrantThis is so it depends on a version with the right symbols.09:11
wgrant(ABI handles some things, but not symbol addition, for example)09:11
fta2is there a limit to the number of source ids i can pass to getBuildSummariesForSourceIds()?09:13
wgrantfta2: Well, it'll start timing out eventually, so be nice.09:14
wgrantBut no, not really.09:14
fta2ok09:14
oojahwgrant: Right, so that's a yes :)09:15
fta2i'm currently doing it one by one but this is inefficient (too many http requests)09:15
wgrantoojah: Right, it's expected.09:16
fta2speaking of unnecessary requests, source_package_publishing_history (as returned by getPublishedSources()) should have a 'dist' attribute.. as accessing srcpkg.distro_series.name just to get its dist makes an http request09:17
wgrantfta2: Well, it shouldn't really have such an attribute. launchpadlib should just be smarter, somehow.09:18
wgrantOr you should be able to tell launchpadlib to grab the distroseries too.09:18
fta2either way, it's the same for me. i suffer from too many moderately-slow requests so the less the better09:22
fta2i wonder why login_anonymously() usually returns in 100~300ms but very often spikes to 30, 50, 60sec09:26
geserfta2: to save some http requests you could "cache" the distro_series object. you could look at spph.distro_series_link (it's an attribute so no extra http request) and only fetch the distro_series if you didn't have it already (it's unlike that it will change during the runtime of your script)09:48
fta2geser, thanks. parsing distro_series_link is hackish but helps a bit10:03
thekornfta2, did you publish the dashboard code somewhere?10:04
fta2thekorn, not yet10:06
thekornfta2, ok, please ping me with an url once it's available, I'm interested to see how it works, and why it is so slow10:10
geserfta2: you don't necessarily need to parse it, just use it as a key for a dict with already fetched disto_series object10:10
hrwhi10:13
fta2geser, i need it for display10:14
fta2+too10:14
hrwI noticed one nasty thing: when I add new email to my LP account I got email with verify link. Going to that link gives me page with "Cancel|Continue" buttons but no message explaining what to do. I know that 'Continue' is proper one but what about other users? why there is no message on page?10:15
YaManicKillcan i let another launchpad user upload to a ppa owned by me?10:19
geserfta2: instead of always accessing spph.distro_series.name try this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/444507/ this should save you some http requests while still giving you access to the distro_series.name attribute10:22
shadeslayerhi,any idea where i can find support for shop.canonical.com10:58
rippsy'know I thought the "starting X hours" on the build status page was supposed to decrease, instead of increase...11:10
rippsIt started at 2 hours about 12 hours ago, and now it's 10 hours11:10
shadeslayerripps: that depends on the stuff which has more priority :)11:14
zachtibhey, are the PPA build servers running behind? I uploaded something last night and it's still pending with a 2-hour start time.11:20
bigjoolsyes we have big delays, we're working on it11:20
zachtibok, just wanted to make sure it was a known issue and it wasn't just me, thanks11:21
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derick212Hi.  Having issues getting a file from the launchpad servers.  As requested joined channel.12:45
derick212URL is http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/mahara/master/download/head%3A/htdocs/js/paginator.js/paginator.js  Been trying on and off for the last hour12:46
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mok0where can I learn about recipes?13:36
mok0ah found ut13:37
mok0it13:37
* rowinggolfer_ reads topic..... and his question is answered, thanks14:05
bigjoolsrowinggolfer_: should be fixed soon14:17
rowinggolfer_bigjools, no worries.14:19
apware we aware that the "Queue Status" is all unknown on the build farm?  i guess this could be fallout from slow builds14:31
jpdsapw: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/58868414:32
ubot5Launchpad bug 588684 in Soyuz "builders index timing out after 10.05 release (affected: 1, heat: 8)" [High,In progress]14:32
bigjoolsit's getting fixed as we speak14:33
* apw bets you are getting beaten from all sides :)14:33
bigjools:/14:34
apwbigjools, ahh this would affect regular buildd's too wouldn't it, and would explain the odd case i had where a job started 5 hours later than its estimate14:41
bigjoolsyes, all build dispatching is delayed14:42
bigjoolswe're not sure why, but a database query that was previously taking 400ms is now taking 10 minutes sometimes14:42
apwbigjools, do we know why testing on edge on the live db didn't catch the regression?  oh i guess we don't connect any machines to edge scheduling wise14:44
apwbut the main page not having data should have shown up before?  i use that on edge a lot14:44
bigjoolsedge doesn't have any builders14:45
apwno but it has the /builders page no ?14:45
apwand that was the first reported symptom ?14:45
bigjoolsthat's a different issue to the one I'm talking about14:45
apwoh ok fair enough14:45
bigjoolsit wouldn't get caught on edge anyway14:46
noodles775apw: the change landed on db-devel (by necessity) so didn't hit edge, and staging (and dogfood where we also test things) only have a few builders compared with production. So that is a point that we could improve.14:50
bigjoolsit's generally a problem that we don't have a production-like build environment to test in and not one that's easy to fix either14:52
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Penguin_GuyIs the bug email interface guide ( https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/EmailInterface ) correct? I tried changing the status using the method in that guide and the text appeared in my post (https://bugs.launchpad.net/codemonkey/+bug/589177/comments/1).15:47
ubot5Launchpad bug 589177 in Code Monkey "Need some kind of Branding Icon (affected: 2, heat: 12)" [Medium,In progress]15:47
bacPenguin_Guy: were you careful to indent the message as required?15:55
Penguin_Guybac: What's the indentation supposed to be? I thought it was just a single space.15:56
bacPenguin_Guy: it looks like you did15:56
Penguin_Guybac: I copied the indentation exactly as it appeared on the help page.15:56
bacPenguin_Guy: yeah, i see that now.  unfortunately i rarely/never use the email interface.  but i know people who use it all of the time15:57
Penguin_Guybac: Anyone on IRC now who might have the answer?15:58
bacPenguin_Guy: BjornT or gmb might.  ^^15:58
Penguin_Guybac: Thanks.15:58
Penguin_GuyBjornT, gmb: Can either of you help me with setting bug status through email?15:59
bacPenguin_Guy: i wonder if the attachment was done improperly, confusing it?16:01
Penguin_Guybac: I don't see what could have gone wrong with adding an attachment, the 'net seems to say just to attach it like any other attachment.16:03
bacPenguin_Guy: just grasping for straws...16:03
bacPenguin_Guy: the body of your email looked fine to me so that was the only other variable...16:04
Penguin_Guybac: The only thing I could think of was if the guide was wrong or out of date. That's why I was looking for someone who uses the email interface regularly. I'll try some more Google searches and see what I can find. Thanks for the help.16:05
bacPenguin_Guy: ok.  if you would, follow up with me here if you figure it out and i'll update the doc if needed.16:06
Penguin_Guybac: Sure.16:07
lifeeth|sleepnick lifeeth16:59
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lifeethHello all... can some one point me to a howto on tarring my repo?16:59
maxblifeeth: It is not clear what you mean - please explain more.17:04
lifeethgithub / bitbucket have an option to dowload the current revision via a web UI17:04
lifeethakin to bzr export and tar17:04
lifeethanything similar on launchpad?17:04
maxbNo, there is no equivalent feature in the web UI17:05
lifeethThanks.. just wanted to know that bit17:05
maxblifeeth: Perhaps you can use 'bzr export myproject.tar.gz lp:~somebody/myproject/branchname' instead17:07
lifeethGot that17:07
maxbIs it a known issue that all the build queues on /builders are showing 'unknown' ?17:14
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gesermaxb: yes17:22
gesermaxb: bug 58868417:23
ubot5Launchpad bug 588684 in Soyuz "builders index timing out after 10.05 release (affected: 1, heat: 8)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58868417:23
maxbThanks17:23
* maxb subscribes17:23
bigjoolsnoodles has a branch to fix it, it'll land soon17:29
christophechauveHi17:34
christophechauveWe bought a commercial projet, whom is private, but we cannot made the branch as private, anybody can check if there is no problem ?17:35
pmjdebruijnhuh?17:37
pmjdebruijnchristophechauve: you might want to explain further17:37
pmjdebruijnchristophechauve: I could be wrong, but I don't think Launchpad is intended for commercial private hosting :)17:38
pmjdebruijnagain, I could be wrong17:38
christophechauvepmjdebruijn: lol17:38
christophechauveyou can use it as proprietary licence but you must pay for it17:39
tsimpsonpmjdebruijn: you can purchase a commercial license with Launchpad, free hosting is reserved for open-source projects17:39
pmjdebruijnoh17:39
pmjdebruijnwell, I said I could be wrong :)17:39
christophechauvepmjdebruijn: ;)17:39
bachi christophechauve17:54
bacpmjdebruijn: yes, commercial/proprietary projects can use launchpad if they buy a "commercial-use" subscription.17:55
bacchristophechauve: i will be happy to help you get your project set up properly17:55
christophechauvebac i just send an email to help@launchpad.net with URL for project and branch17:56
* bac looks17:56
christophechauvebac: thanks17:56
bachaven't gotten it yet17:56
christophechauveok17:57
christophechauvethis is the url project https://launchpad.net/syleam.openerp17:58
christophechauvethis project is private (it's ok) but the branch are public, we want to made it as private17:59
Penguin_GuyDoes anyone here know how to use the email interface to change bug properties?19:45
micahgPenguin_Guy: https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/EmailInterface19:48
Penguin_Guymicahg: I tried that but it doesn't seem to work19:54
micahgPenguin_Guy: sorry, that's all I know, maybe someone else can help19:56
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maxbPenguin_Guy: I suspect it's probably mandatory to gpg-sign your emails to edit bugs that way20:43
Penguin_Guymaxb: Yeah, it was signed.20:44
maxboh :-/20:45
maxband you did put a leading space at the beginning of each command line?20:45
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Penguin_Guymax: Yes21:38
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