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| hrw | morning | 08:19 |
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| cooloney | hrw: morning | 08:21 |
| cooloney | sebjan: hi, morning | 08:32 |
| cooloney | amitk: morning | 08:32 |
| sebjan | cooloney: morning | 08:32 |
| cooloney | sebjan: i saw your email. yes, try that 'exclude' d-i patch will solve your issue | 08:32 |
| amitk | morning cooloney, all | 08:32 |
| sebjan | cooloney: yes, I'll do that thanks! | 08:33 |
| cooloney | sebjan: normally, how long will it take for building package in your omap4 hardware? | 08:34 |
| sebjan | cooloney: :) that's a good question. It ran for 5 hours tonight until it stopped on this error. | 08:35 |
| sebjan | cooloney: I have all my files on NFS, and my NFS settings may not be optimal either. | 08:36 |
| cooloney | sebjan: ok, good, understand. hehe, i guess it is using -j2 defaultly, right | 08:39 |
| sebjan | cooloney: I specified -j4, and the cores seemed quite loaded when I checked | 08:41 |
| DanaG | ooh, dual-core? | 08:42 |
| cooloney | DanaG: yeah, it is omap4 | 08:42 |
| amitk | sebjan: 5 hrs?! so not too much better than our existing situation. | 08:42 |
| cooloney | dual-core a9 | 08:43 |
| amitk | sebjan: We're at 7hr per arm flavour ATM | 08:43 |
| cooloney | amitk: right, i don't see any improvment | 08:43 |
| * amitk wonders if we should to some study about how I/O bound this is | 08:43 | |
| cooloney | amitk: maybe NFS is the bottleneck | 08:43 |
| amitk | NFS? | 08:44 |
| DanaG | hmm, I'm curious what omap4 hardware. | 08:44 |
| DanaG | my gripe with the ARM stuff is that the 3D stuff is often blobby (and not nvidia okay blob, but PowerVR doesn't-even-build blob) | 08:45 |
| cooloney | amitk: hehe, sebjan is using NFS with omap4 hardware as rootfs, so i guess it is building via NFS | 08:46 |
| hrw | DanaG: powervr for omap3? | 08:46 |
| amitk | cooloney: ok, that could be reason if the source are on NFS | 08:47 |
| ogra | amitk, i'm building a native kernel faster (no package though) | 08:47 |
| ogra | and on SD | 08:47 |
| DanaG | yeah, beagleboard. The TI PowerVR Makefile tries to make clean on a hardcoded target dir that doesn't exist. | 08:47 |
| ogra | create it :) | 08:47 |
| amitk | ogra: want to try a 'debuild -b' of the lucid package on your shiny board? :) | 08:47 |
| ogra | amitk, will do that on the weekend, currently i need the board with constant reboots (testing jasper) | 08:48 |
| hrw | ogra: how is panda compared to normal bb? | 08:48 |
| DanaG | hmm, I wish there were an Ubuntu phone. | 08:49 |
| sebjan | yes, I access the sources over NFS. I will give a try on SD card. | 08:49 |
| ogra | hrw, compared to normal bb ... hmm normal bb is on my desk, panda is in shipment ... if that suits you as comparison :) | 08:49 |
| DanaG | Panda? Is that a code name? | 08:49 |
| hrw | ah ok | 08:50 |
| ogra | should arrive today/tomorrow though | 08:50 |
| ogra | i had some customs issues | 08:50 |
| hrw | ogra: ah, right - you told that before | 08:50 |
| hrw | hi zyga | 08:50 |
| hrw | DanaG: run ubuntu on n900? | 08:50 |
| zyga | hrw, hi, how are you | 08:50 |
| DanaG | ah, surprised I didn't think of that. | 08:51 |
| DanaG | Oh yeah, and my criteria for "Useful 3D" is Compiz. | 08:51 |
| hrw | zyga: fine thx. forgot that we have long weekend in Poland and wanted to visit one place... kissed door handle ;( | 08:51 |
| DanaG | Or at least accelerated metacity compositing would be good. | 08:51 |
| hrw | DanaG: n900 uses omap3 so powervr glx libs | 08:51 |
| ogra | compiz uses full GL afaik, you wont make it work properly on GLES i guess | 08:52 |
| zyga | hrw, I need to visit some government place next week, I figured trying to go there today would be a waste of time | 08:52 |
| hrw | ~curse gcc4.5 configure | 08:52 |
| hrw | zyga: it was 10-15 minutes walk with daughter | 08:52 |
| ogra | ah, poland had a bank holiday too yesterday ? | 08:52 |
| DanaG | Bummer... that old "XGL" would be exactly what we'd need. | 08:53 |
| DanaG | Implement that on GL ES... | 08:53 |
| ogra | germany only had it for half the country (mainly the catholic parts) | 08:53 |
| hrw | ogra: yes | 08:53 |
| hrw | ogra: in theory Poland is catholic country | 08:54 |
| zyga | hrw, what's wrong with configure :-) | 08:54 |
| hrw | zyga: ${CC} ${CFLAGS} ${LDFLAGS} -rdynamic conftest.c -o conftest > /dev/null 2>&1 | 08:54 |
| hrw | zyga: ${CC} == gcc in that case | 08:54 |
| zyga | mmm | 08:54 |
| zyga | so what's wrong with this line? | 08:55 |
| hrw | zyga: but --target=arm-linux-gnueabi | 08:55 |
| hrw | zyga: it should use arm-linux-gnueabi-gcc | 08:55 |
| zyga | oh | 08:55 |
| hrw | but I have to check one thing more | 08:55 |
| ogra | hrw, apt-get source x-loader-omap4 and look at debian/rules | 08:55 |
| zyga | cross vs native all over agian | 08:55 |
| ogra | i think there is a solution in it | 08:56 |
| hrw | ogra: you want me to have nightmares? | 08:56 |
| hrw | ogra: I think that it uses proper cc and inproper objdump | 08:56 |
| hrw | one coffee later I will solve | 08:56 |
| ogra | right, look at the rules there, it solves that | 08:56 |
| hrw | gracias my friend | 08:56 |
| ogra | u-boot-omap4 has the same snippet | 08:56 |
| hrw | so tomorrow is BBXM premiere? | 08:57 |
| DanaG | I'm still wondering where all of Marvell's stuff is. Not out yet. | 08:58 |
| hrw | ogra: maverick/arm only source? | 08:58 |
| ogra | yep | 08:58 |
| markos_ | is omap4 cortex-a8 or cortex-a9, I'm confused | 08:58 |
| hrw | my adm64 fetched | 08:58 |
| ogra | well source is arch agnostic | 08:58 |
| hrw | markos_: a9 | 08:58 |
| markos_ | hrw: cool, it will have a fast fpu | 08:59 |
| hrw | markos_: it has already | 08:59 |
| markos_ | hrw: I mean because it's based on a9 :) | 09:01 |
| hrw | ok | 09:01 |
| hrw | markos_: I hope that storage i/o will not kill omap4 | 09:02 |
| hrw | markos_: as it is SD or USB only as options for storage | 09:02 |
| markos_ | yes, that sucks | 09:03 |
| markos_ | well, one can connect a fast disk on usb2 but that negates the advantage of its small size | 09:03 |
| hrw | now I am running bb/c3 with rootfs on usb stick, 40GB 2.5" pata drive on usb as storage | 09:03 |
| DanaG | yeah, marvell's stuff has SATA.... but the currently-available ones won't run lucid. | 09:04 |
| hrw | markos_: small size of BB is disadvantage when you use it as devboard | 09:04 |
| hrw | 17.8MB/s from pata drive is not that bad (hdparm -Tt) | 09:05 |
| markos_ | my efikamx here has flash on ata and it's quite fast, much faster than the sd | 09:05 |
| markos_ | yes, sth like that, SD gets 10MB/s max | 09:05 |
| hrw | time to check OE gcc patches | 09:06 |
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| zyga | hrw, I did some benchmarks on netbook | 09:20 |
| zyga | hrw, my BB pulls solid 20MiB/s from 2.5" SATA HDD | 09:20 |
| markos_ | zyga: via usb2 you mean? | 09:21 |
| zyga | markos_, yes | 09:21 |
| zyga | _and_ it was two USB hubs away from BB | 09:21 |
| markos_ | well, that's not surprising, usb2 can get up to 400Mbps | 09:21 |
| hrw | zyga: I have 3.5" sata hdd in usb2/sata case. does 110MB/s over sata and is able to max sheevaplug usb connector with 40-50MB/s. did not tried it with beagleboard | 09:22 |
| markos_ | zyga: I get ~25MB/s here, on an old 40GB in a pata ->usb case | 09:23 |
| markos_ | but that's not very important, the thing is that BB's internal storage is slow, and fast SD cards aren't avaialble yet | 09:24 |
| * gsnedders wonders how fast he gets over NFS | 09:29 | |
| lool | zyga: That's still relatively far from what a common intel system with SATA can do (75 MiB/s or so I'd expect) | 09:35 |
| lool | It's decent, but it's one of the bottlenecks | 09:35 |
| lool | CPU speed is one as well on beagle, but with GHz SMP it should be better | 09:36 |
| zyga | lool, if you attach SATA SDD the speed can go even higher | 09:36 |
| markos_ | lool: the bottleneck is usb2 not the disk, no matter how fast the disk is, usb2 will max at ~40MB/s | 09:37 |
| lool | markos_: Yes, I know | 09:38 |
| lool | markos_: that's why I mentin SATA | 09:38 |
| markos_ | lool: it's not a fair comparison :) | 09:38 |
| zyga | mmm | 09:38 |
| hrw | heh.. oom on 8gb ram.. | 09:38 |
| lool | The only ARMv7 SoC with native SATA that I've seen is dove | 09:38 |
| * zyga notices nitl netbook got cheaper | 09:38 | |
| lool | markos_: it exists, but it's hard to find | 09:38 |
| markos_ | lool: imx53 is supposed to have sata as ell | 09:38 |
| zyga | does anyone know what how they roll their software? | 09:38 |
| lool | markos_: Isn't it fake SATA on USB as on imx51? | 09:39 |
| lool | or SATA over PATA or something equally poor | 09:39 |
| * ogra_cmpc thought imx53 only has PATA | 09:39 | |
| markos_ | good question, i don't know | 09:39 |
| lool | markos_: babbage had a SATA connector, but the soc has no native SATA; it was USB behind it IIRC | 09:39 |
| ogra_cmpc | in the SoC, not sure how its exposed to the outside, might be a SATA socket | 09:39 |
| lool | So same limitation | 09:39 |
| markos_ | http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=i.MX535&nodeId=0162468rH31143ZrDR988D | 09:40 |
| ogra_cmpc | well, SATA over PATA might imnprove it | 09:40 |
| markos_ | doesn't say if it's over USB though | 09:40 |
| ogra_cmpc | babbage (imx51) is definately USb | 09:41 |
| ogra_cmpc | 53 has a PATA bus but i dont think a SATA one | 09:41 |
| lool | markos_: I checked the PDF brief, and it mentions PATA *and* SATA connectivity | 09:41 |
| markos_ | PATA is not even mentioned in iMX515 page | 09:42 |
| lool | http://cache.freescale.com/files/32bit/doc/fact_sheet/IMX535ANNCMNTFS.pdf | 09:42 |
| markos_ | so I guess iMX53 does include PATA/SATA on the chip | 09:42 |
| lool | markos_: Do you have an idea of timeline to availability of imx53? | 09:42 |
| lool | http://cache.freescale.com/files/32bit/doc/fact_sheet/IMX515FS.pdf | 09:43 |
| lool | imx51 mentions PATA | 09:43 |
| lool | (well it mentions ATA) | 09:43 |
| lool | the text below the diagram mentions P-ATA | 09:43 |
| markos_ | no sorry, but I understand samples will be available to Genesi before the end of summer | 09:44 |
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| amitk | Rob mentioned late this year for something that we could buy | 09:48 |
| sebjan | All: j'ai mis a dispo un pre-kernel L24.7 sur le serveur dans www/releases/L24.7/pre-release (sans les modules, mais c'est pas genant pour booter et faire des builds) | 09:48 |
| sebjan | oops... sorry :) | 09:49 |
| lool | 24.7? wow | 09:49 |
| lool | tell me it aint linux 2.4.x! | 09:49 |
| sebjan | lool: :) | 09:50 |
| XorA | lool: 24.7 is internal TI version number | 09:54 |
| XorA | its actually 2.6.33 + TI stuff | 09:55 |
| zyga | asac, ping | 09:56 |
| zyga | asac, I need to be able to display package build failures, is there an interface to harvest that data? | 09:56 |
| asac | zyga: you mean in ppas? | 09:57 |
| zyga | asac, mmm I mean our 'derived archive' concept | 09:57 |
| asac | fta: ^^ ... i know you recently did that with our daily builds, do you have input? | 09:57 |
| zyga | let's say you setup a linaro spinoff | 09:57 |
| zyga | asac, with your own 'archive' | 09:57 |
| zyga | and dashboard to see how it works | 09:57 |
| zyga | so this dashboard needs to know _all | 09:58 |
| zyga | _all_ packages you have in the archive | 09:58 |
| zyga | including daily package changes (new uploads/rebuilds) and build failures | 09:58 |
| asac | zyga: i think the problem is that there are no derived archives yet so we cant tell for sure what will happen. however, i know that there is an api for ppas and i would assume you can do the same for a real archive | 09:58 |
| asac | zyga: you could also talk to the ubuntuwire folks ... and see how they maintain: | 09:59 |
| zyga | asac, can you give me any pointers to PPA APIs? | 09:59 |
| asac | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ | 09:59 |
| asac | zyga: i havent used it, but fta has ... i think he will reply when he is available | 09:59 |
| asac | zyga: otherwise you can ask on #launchpad | 09:59 |
| asac | let me see if i can find who is maintaining ubuntuwire | 10:00 |
| asac | ogra_cmpc: do you know? | 10:00 |
| zyga | http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/ | 10:04 |
| zyga | wow | 10:04 |
| zyga | coooooool | 10:04 |
| ogra | asac, stgraber | 10:11 |
| ogra | though he is not responsible for the ftbfs page | 10:12 |
| asac | zyga: yep. so talk to stgraber ... he is your friend for sure | 10:12 |
| ogra | ask in #ubuntu-motu | 10:12 |
| asac | zyga: you can find him in -motu or -testing | 10:12 |
| ogra | zyga, http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/ftbfs/source/ | 10:12 |
| asac | ogra: i asked in -motu ... didnt get anything back yet | 10:12 |
| ogra | there is the code | 10:13 |
| tmzt | zyga: I would hope such spinoffs aren't needed, sadly things like arm11 support will only come that way | 10:13 |
| asac | zyga: go to #ubuntu-motu ... and ping geser | 10:13 |
| asac | i prepared him that you will ask him a few questions ;) | 10:13 |
| ogra | asac, so did you make a decision about LinuxTag ? | 10:17 |
| zyga | asac, ogra: I know stgraber, I traveled with him to the UDS :-) | 10:19 |
| * zyga switches networks | 10:19 | |
| ogra | zyga, ah, nice | 10:19 |
| asac | ogra: dates? | 10:20 |
| ogra | 8th to 12th (next week) i'll go there from thu to sat | 10:20 |
| ogra | the beagle community will be there, surely worth to meet them | 10:21 |
| hrw | I am considering going there but need to check program more | 10:24 |
| ogra | beer in the evenings | 10:25 |
| ogra | and likely good weather | 10:25 |
| ogra | isnt that enough as a good program ? | 10:25 |
| hrw | ogra: sure, but need to convince slangasek too | 10:25 |
| ogra | heh | 10:25 |
| ogra | bribe him with beer :) | 10:26 |
| slangasek | pretty sure the company can buy you beer for a lot cheaper than they can get you a hotel room, if that's all you're after ;) | 10:27 |
| ogra | lol | 10:27 |
| hrw | ;d | 10:27 |
| hrw | slangasek: I need to convince myself too - my car probably be ready to get it from service next week. and this can higher priority for me then going to LT | 10:30 |
| zyga | ogra: tell me, is there any serial number inside an ARM CPU? | 11:24 |
| zyga | ogra: please tell me there is | 11:24 |
| hrw | zyga: depends on SoC | 11:25 |
| hrw | zyga: but only some offers such function | 11:25 |
| ogra | zyga, what do you want to achieve ? | 11:25 |
| ogra | ogra@babbage2:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo |grep Serial | 11:26 |
| ogra | Serial: 0000000000000000 | 11:26 |
| zyga | ogra: well basically, device identification | 11:26 |
| ogra | zyga, look at flash-kernel | 11:26 |
| zyga | ogra: uboot shows some serial number | 11:26 |
| amitk | zyga: not really, is the answer | 11:26 |
| ogra | could be more fine grained but its already pretty good | 11:26 |
| zyga | mmm | 11:26 |
| zyga | okay | 11:26 |
| zyga | another question | 11:26 |
| amitk | it isn't foolproof | 11:26 |
| zyga | fw_setenv/fw_printenv | 11:27 |
| zyga | can I put UUID inside and assume it will be more-less portable? | 11:27 |
| zyga | that I can fw_setenv my_env=UUID on all devices (somehow) | 11:27 |
| ogra | well, you usually never touch the root= cmdline option after install | 11:27 |
| ogra | again look at flash-kernel | 11:27 |
| zyga | ogra: I'm looking for something outside the FS, if you reinstall the filesystem UUID is gone | 11:28 |
| ogra | this time the flash-kernel-installer.postinst script, thats what d-i and ubiquity execute during installation | 11:28 |
| hrw | zyga: so you want to be able to identify HW? | 11:28 |
| zyga | yes, exactly | 11:28 |
| zyga | I'm looking for a foolproof way to provision devices | 11:29 |
| ogra | flash-kernel --supported :) | 11:29 |
| asac | JamieBen1ett: what happened to arm-m-liquid spec? did that get dropped when moving it from ubuntu-arm to ubuntu? | 11:29 |
| asac | or who was leading that moving effort? | 11:29 |
| ogra | asac, rbelem | 11:29 |
| ogra | oh, he was leading the spec :) surely not the moving | 11:29 |
| hrw | zyga: how you identify x86 boxes? | 11:30 |
| ogra | hrw, you dont need to | 11:30 |
| asac | ogra: yeah. seems it got renamed back to mobile-m | 11:30 |
| ogra | thats why flash-kernel exists :) | 11:30 |
| asac | i will rename it back as we are embracing it | 11:30 |
| ogra | yeah | 11:30 |
| ogra | we dont have it on the trachker even | 11:30 |
| ogra | *tracker | 11:30 |
| lool | asac: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/mobile-m-liquid | 11:30 |
| lool | asac: Was renamed to mobile- | 11:30 |
| asac | yes, i take it back as i am approver and dont want to make naming complicated | 11:31 |
| ogra | ++ | 11:31 |
| ogra | we also dont have manpower to care for it in mobile | 11:31 |
| asac | dropped a note why that name was choosen (technical burndown purpose etc) | 11:32 |
| asac | so hopefully they dont feel offended by being arm-m ;) | 11:32 |
| zyga | hrw, I don't identify x86 boxes | 11:35 |
| ndec | ogra: asac: hi. quick question on packages... I need to write a xxx.install file in my package to split into multiple bin packages. in ubuntu gstreamer, the xxx.install file has debian/tmp/usr/lib... when I build my pacakge I don't have debian/tmp subfolder, but debian/xxx instead. and my package fails to build. where does this tmp come from? | 12:20 |
| ogra_cmpc | ndec, omit debian/tmp and it will work | 12:22 |
| ndec | ogra_cmpc: i tried this as well, but without the leading '/' and it did not work | 12:22 |
| asac | ndec: yeah. omit that debian/tmp | 12:22 |
| ogra_cmpc | hmm, it should work | 12:23 |
| ogra_cmpc | ndec, can you paste a line from your current .install file | 12:23 |
| asac | debian/tmp is automatically used by debhelper if you have multiple binary packages in control | 12:24 |
| ogra_cmpc | right | 12:24 |
| asac | if you have just one it usually installs all in the target package | 12:24 |
| asac | now i wonder how to filter stuff out ;) | 12:24 |
| asac | hopefully there is magic that still allows .install ;) | 12:24 |
| ogra_cmpc | by dirs in .install or specifying the actual single files | 12:24 |
| * asac hasnt done a single binary package for a long time it seems | 12:24 | |
| ndec | asac: ok, i see... i do want more packages, but I only added 1 in control for now.. I was planning to add the 2nd one later ;-) | 12:25 |
| ogra_cmpc | that shouldnt make a difference | 12:25 |
| asac | ndec: yeah. just add a second. but even then the debian/tmp isnt needed anymore | 12:25 |
| asac | if you have a modern compat level | 12:25 |
| asac | e.g. put 7 in debian/compat | 12:25 |
| * ogra_cmpc does single binary files all the time | 12:25 | |
| ogra_cmpc | s/files/packages | 12:25 |
| asac | yeah. ogra is always going for the simple stuff ;) | 12:25 |
| ogra_cmpc | hehe | 12:25 |
| ndec | asac: is the leading '/' needed if I omit /debian/tmp? | 12:25 |
| ogra_cmpc | no | 12:26 |
| asac | doesnt matter iirc | 12:26 |
| asac | both should work | 12:26 |
| ndec | ogra_cmpc: well, in fact I need a package for -dev for header files | 12:26 |
| ogra_cmpc | if you add usr/lib/ it will install everything below debian/tmp/usr/lib in your package | 12:26 |
| ogra_cmpc | then you need to add some more fine grained magic and also have different .install files | 12:27 |
| asac | you usually put usr/lib/*.so.* in the lib .install ... and usr/lib/*.so and usr/include in the -dev | 12:27 |
| ogra_cmpc | (matching the entries in debian/control) | 12:27 |
| asac | assuming you use autotools with -version-info to versoin the lib properly | 12:27 |
| ndec | asac: ogra_cmpc: thanks. I have added the -dev, and started a rebuild. | 12:31 |
| ogra_cmpc | good luck :) | 12:31 |
| sebjan | amitk: I'd like to generate kernel source and binary packages, but with a name like 2.6.33-900.1~ti+release0. What files do I need to edit for that? (debian/changelog is re-gerenated by the debuild command) | 12:32 |
| amitk | sebjan: you need to do a debian/rules clean, 'git clean -df' to get a clean tree, edit debian.ti-omap4/changelog to change your version number, This time debuild -b should DTRT | 12:37 |
| amitk | sebjan: you can run 'debian/rules clean' before the build to make sure your debian/changelog reflects your changes correctly | 12:39 |
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| sebjan | amitk: ok, thanks, it seems fine! | 12:41 |
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| ogra | robclark, hey, whats the branch you built the u-boot from which i got from you with the blaze ? seems the omap_dev branch doesnt work on the panda | 14:23 |
| ogra | (omap4_dev) | 14:23 |
| robclark | ogra: there are some panda patches.. I'm not sure they are all integrated back in u-boot tree.. | 14:24 |
| ogra | oh, you applied them manually to your build ? | 14:24 |
| robclark | and I guess the x-load/u-boot on the blaze is a bit older, so for sure won't have the panda patches | 14:24 |
| robclark | yeah.. I can mail you the patches I have | 14:24 |
| ogra | well, the two binaries you gave me work fine | 14:24 |
| robclark | really? | 14:25 |
| ogra | but from the stuff i packaged in ubuntu only MLO works | 14:25 |
| robclark | oh.. yeah, that is right.. | 14:25 |
| ogra | u-boot exits with: ** Can't read from device 1 ** | 14:25 |
| robclark | the MLO/u-boot I had on that card was actually the panda version.. | 14:25 |
| ogra | it starts though, but there seems to be an issue with mmc | 14:25 |
| robclark | ok.. if you want to build something that actually works on panda, I think I should send you the patches | 14:26 |
| ogra | http://paste.ubuntu.com/444610/ is what i get with the packaged binaries | 14:26 |
| ogra | works on blaze | 14:26 |
| robclark | which you could apply on top of dev.omapzoom.org tree.. | 14:26 |
| ogra | ok | 14:26 |
| zumbi | hrw: ayt? | 14:38 |
| zumbi | hrw: ayt? | 14:41 |
| zumbi | hrw: where can i have a look to the patch merging binary-cross target into binary for binutils? is that affecting debian or is it only ubuntu thing? | 14:42 |
| hrw | zumbi: it is integrated in next ubuntu binutils package release | 14:43 |
| hrw | zumbi: moment and I will give you bug link | 14:43 |
| hrw | zumbi: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/587851 | 14:43 |
| zumbi | hrw: please update README.cross file and if you care, please fill a bug report on `buildcross` the tool for getting cross tools built (now, in debian/experimental) | 14:43 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 587851 in binutils (Ubuntu) "merge cross build into "binary" target (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Fix released] | 14:43 |
| hrw | zumbi: ok | 14:44 |
| zumbi | hrw: thanks nad thanks for the merge :) | 14:44 |
| hrw | zumbi: will have to check that buildcross tool | 14:45 |
| hrw | zumbi: I got gcc-4.5 crossbuilt today | 14:45 |
| hrw | zumbi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/444614/ was needed on my system to get gcc 4.5 cross built. | 14:45 |
| zumbi | interesting, i have not tried 4.5 | 14:47 |
| zumbi | hrw: make sure cross-fixes and cross-include patches are up to date | 14:47 |
| hrw | maverick base libs has from 4.5 | 14:47 |
| hrw | zumbi: cross-fixes got update - sh part needed dropping | 14:47 |
| hrw | zumbi: merged it latest gcc-4.5 ubuntu package so I think that doko will merge it back to debian | 14:48 |
| zumbi | hrw: sure, thanks, you are doing great! Let me know if you want to hack on buildcross code too, for getting cross tools built | 14:49 |
| hrw | at least I will look at it | 14:50 |
| zumbi | http://www.emdebian.org/repos/current/host/trunk/buildcross/trunk/ | 14:50 |
| zumbi | or http://www.emdebian.org/svn/browser/current/host/trunk/buildcross/trunk | 14:50 |
| hrw | looks interesting | 14:53 |
| zumbi | hrw: it could be used for daily builds to see if toolchains are fine | 14:55 |
| zumbi | and it needs more love. I have great plans for it, but -ENOTIME | 14:55 |
| hrw | common problem | 14:55 |
| hrw | bb in few | 14:55 |
| hrw | btw - Stylish extension to firefox roxx - whiteboard in blueprints is now 2x wider D: | 14:57 |
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| hrw | zumbi: buildcross lacks deps on embedian-tools, dpkg-cross dep needs to be versioned | 15:42 |
| hrw | zumbi: grep-dctrl is also checked for being installed | 15:42 |
| hrw | zumbi: and it needs to run as a root ;( | 15:45 |
| zumbi | hrw: why does it need emdebian-tools (which has also been deprecated) | 15:48 |
| zumbi | dpkg-cross and grep-dctrl, agreed | 15:49 |
| hrw | zumbi: it checked for those | 15:49 |
| zumbi | hrw: and it needs root to install packages, i have not tested, but i was planning to start using fakechroot stuff | 15:50 |
| zumbi | you can not build gcc, without installing binutils :-/ | 15:50 |
| zumbi | any idea how to work that arround? (besides looking fakechroot) | 15:50 |
| hrw | I plan to depend on *-source packages and call them one by one + temporary install dirs | 15:51 |
| zumbi | btw - i am updating my launchpad info, to work better with you | 15:51 |
| hrw | so you would do "apt-get source cross-toolchain; cd cross-toolchain*;echo armel >debian/target;dpkg-buildpackage" | 15:52 |
| hrw | and this will build linux-libc-dev, binutils, gcc, eglibc | 15:52 |
| zumbi | hrw, and how do you plan to get cross libraries? | 15:52 |
| zumbi | are you going to bootstrap glibc headers? | 15:52 |
| hrw | yes | 15:52 |
| hrw | zumbi: buildcross suggestions: s/-v/-V/ and make -v == --verbose (display logs on screen) | 15:53 |
| zumbi | hrw: lool had some code in his ppa and i have splitted that into packages into git repo, http://emdebian.org/git/ | 15:53 |
| hrw | zumbi: and for now small check at start "am I root" check | 15:53 |
| hrw | thx | 15:54 |
| zumbi | look under packages/.. | 15:54 |
| zumbi | those are not perfect, but a start | 15:54 |
| hrw | zumbi: any readmes for them? | 15:55 |
| zumbi | readmes? what do you mean? what for? | 15:55 |
| zumbi | those just build in a standard debian way | 15:56 |
| hrw | sorry, looked at wrong page | 15:56 |
| zumbi | hrw: hint, if you need some buildcross ubuntu changes, $ debcheckout buildcross, make-a-patch :-) | 15:58 |
| zumbi | you would need a deb-src line for debian experimental archive | 15:58 |
| hrw | zumbi: need to make ubuntu vm for it first | 15:58 |
| hrw | zumbi: already fetched sources from p.d.o/buildcross | 15:58 |
| zumbi | vm as virtual machine? | 15:58 |
| hrw | yes | 15:58 |
| zumbi | we usually work on chroots, done by debootstrap (or newer multistrap) | 15:59 |
| hrw | I do not like to run root-automats on my normal systems | 15:59 |
| zumbi | do you know debootstrap? | 15:59 |
| hrw | I know | 15:59 |
| zumbi | ok, sorry :) | 15:59 |
| hrw | np | 16:00 |
| zumbi | hrw: actually you do not need root, but sudo on apt-cross and dpkg | 16:10 |
| zumbi | hrw: it is not good idea to build packages being root | 16:11 |
| zumbi | hrw: do you think just a warning would be fine? | 16:12 |
| hrw | yep | 16:13 |
| zumbi | hrw: `buildcross-0.0.2` released. Uhmmm, I forgot to thank you (will do on next release) | 16:31 |
| hrw | no problem | 16:31 |
| hrw | zumbi: you use some scm for it? | 16:31 |
| zumbi | svn | 16:32 |
| hrw | ah. sorry, you gave me link | 16:32 |
| zumbi | yes, also if you have devscripts package you could use debcheckout | 16:32 |
| zumbi | but you need to add deb-src line for debian/experimental | 16:33 |
| hrw | ok | 16:33 |
| hrw | zumbi: scm allows me to look at patches etc | 16:34 |
| hrw | git-svn uber alles | 16:34 |
| zumbi | yet another git fanboy :) | 16:34 |
| hrw | zumbi: I like to be able to make commits without going to server | 16:35 |
| zumbi | then use debcommit | 16:35 |
| zumbi | oh! nevermind | 16:35 |
| zumbi | yes, i also like git, but sometimes it is over abused | 16:36 |
| hrw | btw - "gcc-4.4" instead of "4.4" maybe? | 16:36 |
| zumbi | uhm.. i am not sure about that one, as we do not use package names, like `libs` | 16:37 |
| hrw | but you have 'binutils' not '2.20.51' | 16:38 |
| zumbi | well, I'll have a look | 16:38 |
| hrw | I have a patch | 16:39 |
| zumbi | oh! great, then tell me how to fetch it :) | 16:40 |
| hrw | moment | 16:40 |
| hrw | zumbi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/444686/ | 16:47 |
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| zumbi | hrw: Committed revision 7278 | 16:56 |
| hrw | http://paste.ubuntu.com/444700/ adds help for --verbose | 17:02 |
| cwillu_at_work | rcn-ee, not sure if this is a kernel problem or not yet, but I'm getting unexpected oom failures in 2.6.34-l0 | 17:02 |
| zumbi | hrw: thanks, that is already done | 17:02 |
| zumbi | hrw: i was thinking on how to better implement verbose | 17:02 |
| cwillu_at_work | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/221945/ | 17:03 |
| zumbi | hrw: either by a new logging funcion or by embedding commands in a variable. I think I'll go for the first one (more clean) | 17:03 |
| cwillu_at_work | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/221947/ rather | 17:04 |
| cwillu_at_work | [84303.868164] Normal free:102232kB min:2036kB low:2544kB high:3052kB active_anon:9788kB inactive_anon:30968kB active_file:0kB inactive_file:72kB unevictable:0kB isolated(anon):0kB isolated(file):0kB present:260096kB mlocked:0kB dirty:0kB writeback:0kB mapped:156kB shmem:840kB slab_reclaimable:2328kB slab_unreclaimable:87676kB kernel_stack:1336kB pagetables:964kB unstable:0kB bounce:0kB writeback_tmp:0kB pages_scanned:0 all_unreclaimable? no | 17:05 |
| hrw | ok, need to go now | 17:05 |
| cwillu_at_work | seems like I should have lots and lots of free memory (that's the pre-killing numbers) | 17:05 |
| hrw | have a nice weekend everyone | 17:05 |
| zumbi | hrw: good weekend! | 17:06 |
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| cwillu_at_work | rcn-ee, also, would it be possible to get an alternate version with that new defragmentation code enabled? I'd like to see if that improves things on a long-running beagle | 17:12 |
| cwillu_at_work | I'll get you the appropriate config items if you could do that | 17:12 |
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| zumbi | hrw|gone: just have released 0.0.3 | 18:53 |
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| cwillu_at_work | !info libpixman | 20:41 |
| ubot2 | cwillu_at_work: Package libpixman does not exist in lucid | 20:41 |
| cwillu_at_work | !info libpixman-1 | 20:41 |
| ubot2 | cwillu_at_work: Package libpixman-1 does not exist in lucid | 20:41 |
| cwillu_at_work | !info libpixman-1-0 | 20:41 |
| ubot2 | cwillu_at_work: libpixman-1-0 (source: pixman): pixel-manipulation library for X and cairo. In component main, is optional. Version 0.16.4-1ubuntu2 (lucid), package size 230 kB, installed size 508 kB | 20:41 |
| cwillu_at_work | !info libpixman-1-0 maverick | 20:41 |
| ubot2 | cwillu_at_work: 'maverick' is not a valid distribution: hardy, jaunty, karmic, lucid | 20:41 |
| in-game | Hello all | 20:50 |
| cwillu_at_work | eat the newcomer | 20:52 |
| in-game | lol | 20:53 |
| in-game | yeah got a netwalker | 20:53 |
| in-game | wondering how to clock my arm cpu | 20:53 |
| tmzt | netwalker? | 20:54 |
| in-game | yeah sharp netwalker | 20:54 |
| in-game | running ubuntu 9.10 | 20:54 |
| tmzt | that's the new zaurus cxxx? | 20:55 |
| in-game | runnng xfce instead of default gnome | 20:55 |
| tmzt | with snapdragon? | 20:55 |
| in-game | yups somewhat yeah | 20:55 |
| in-game | bit bigger thouigh | 20:55 |
| in-game | some like the UMID | 20:55 |
| in-game | hmm | 20:56 |
| in-game | let nme check | 20:56 |
| in-game | Freescale i.MX515 800 mhz | 21:00 |
| tmzt | ah, that's the older one then | 21:00 |
| in-game | yep | 21:01 |
| in-game | ios there a tool to clock it? | 21:02 |
| tmzt | what do you mean? | 21:03 |
| in-game | well to let it ruin on say 900 mhz | 21:03 |
| in-game | like the zaurus overclock tool | 21:03 |
| in-game | and any idea if the arm ubuntu gets the upgrade to the 10.x ? | 21:06 |
| in-game | meaning: now it is 9.10 | 21:06 |
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| tmzt | in-game: that cpu/soc is one of the ones getting supported I think | 21:18 |
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