[00:27] <ChrisWoollard> g'night
[02:02] <flan> I'll try to be available, ubuntujenkins, but I'll be at work and will therefore be a little limited in what I can do.
[02:02] <flan> (I have some VMs, but also a lot of tasks)
[07:56] <ubuntujenkins> morning all
[08:17] <ubuntujenkins> hopefully i will fix this pacthing error with the texlive-bin packages
[12:45] <ubuntujenkins> pleia2: with the docs/manual/learning meeting do we want to open a new doodle poll?
[12:55] <ubuntujenkins> hey humphreybc whats the "mini" version of you?
[13:01] <humphreybc> my new netbook :P
[13:03] <humphreybc-mini> isn't it exciting?
[13:05] <ubuntujenkins> well it may be exciting for you but I don't have a netbook :)
[13:12] <nisshh> humphreybc-mini: you lucky bugger, i, like ubuntujenkins, dont have one either
[13:12] <ubuntujenkins> ?ppa > ubuntujenkins
[13:12] <quickshotdevs> ubuntujenkins, please see my private message
[13:13] <humphreybc-mini> just found I too suffer from this bug
[13:13] <humphreybc-mini> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/480929
[13:13] <manualbot> Launchpad bug 480929 in linux "[9.10]Audio hiss coming from netbook speakers when using headphones" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[13:13] <humphreybc-mini> i'm trying the last fix in the comments, have to reboot
[13:13] <nisshh> humphreybc-mini: what netbook is it?
[13:13] <humphreybc-mini> dell mini 9
[13:13] <humphreybc-mini> brb in like 20 seconds :P
[13:13] <humphreybc-mini> it has an SSD
[13:13] <nisshh> :O
[13:14] <thorwil> humphreybc-mini: : i updated the title page templates for e2 with the new orange and CoF geometry, including the wave pattern a while ago. next step would be having the "Second Edition" string translated
[13:14] <nisshh> thorwil: he will be back in a minute
[13:14] <nisshh> had to reboot
[13:14] <thorwil> arg, yeah, that happens when you type and not read along
[13:15] <nisshh> hehe
[13:15] <humphreybc-mini> hmm
[13:15] <humphreybc-mini> that didnt fix it
[13:16] <thorwil> humphreybc-mini: : i updated the title page templates for e2 with the new orange and CoF geometry, including the wave pattern a while ago. next step would be having the "Second Edition" string translated
[13:16] <humphreybc-mini> thorwil: great :)
[13:18] <ubuntujenkins> brb
[13:36] <thorwil> i used to be happy with 13G for each of my 2 system partitions, but collecting more and more stuff in /usr/src and all the tex business ruined that :)
[13:38] <ubuntujenkins> yep same for me, / is now 28gb to same me having to change it again
[13:40] <shrini> team
[13:40] <shrini> need help
[13:40] <shrini> bzr branch lp:ubuntu-manual/lucid-e1
[13:41] <shrini> this command disconnectted
[13:41] <ubuntujenkins> do you have bzr installed?
[13:41] <shrini> after downloading some yes
[13:41] <shrini> yes
[13:41] <shrini> i have
[13:41] <shrini> net disconnected
[13:41] <shrini> how to continue?
[13:42] <shrini> bzr: ERROR: Target directory "lucid-e1" already exists. is the error
[13:42] <shrini> but, it is partial
[13:42] <ubuntujenkins> cd lucid-e1
[13:42] <shrini> ok
[13:42] <ubuntujenkins> bzr pull
[13:42] <ubuntujenkins> give that a go
[13:42] <shrini> bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "/home/shrinivasan/ubuntu-manual/lucid-e1/.bzr/branch/": location is a repository.
[13:43] <ubuntujenkins> bzr pull lp:ubuntu-manual/lucid-e1
[13:43] <shrini> ubuntujenkins: ?
[13:43] <ubuntujenkins> does that work?
[13:43] <shrini> same error
[13:44] <shrini> i downloaded 85MB
[13:44] <shrini> now the folder ahs only 52 k
[13:44] <shrini> ubuntujenkins: have to do again from start?
[13:44] <ubuntujenkins> I think you will need to delete the "lucid-e1" folder and start again with bzr branch lp:ubuntu-manual/lucid-e1
[13:45] <shrini> OMG
[13:45] <shrini> :-)
[13:45] <shrini> ok
[13:45] <shrini> will do it again
[13:45] <ubuntujenkins> hopefully the internet will say connected this time.
[13:46] <shrini> hope so
[14:03] <humphreybc-mini> well that was fun
[14:08] <ubuntujenkins> humphreybc-mini: I am ready to update the manual tex ppa I built the packages from very up to date source. I am just waiting for someone to answer my request to make the ppa bigger
[14:09] <ubuntujenkins> you have to ask a soyuz question
[14:09] <humphreybc-mini> who have you asked?
[14:11] <ubuntujenkins> https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+question/113396 is where you are directed
[14:11] <ubuntujenkins> thats my question asking for it to be made bigger, I did only ask yesterday
[14:13] <humphreybc-mini> oh
[14:13] <humphreybc-mini> well give them some time ;)
[14:14] <ubuntujenkins> yea I just want to get it done :-) . very much like that as a person
[14:39] <humphreybc-mini> heh
[14:39] <humphreybc-mini> I know how you feel
[16:50] <shrini1> team
[16:50] <shrini1> is there any way to rescue the disconnected "bzr branch" command?
[16:50] <shrini1> i have disconnecting net onnection
[16:51] <ubuntujenkins> shrini1: I suggest trying #bzr they migth be able to help
[16:52] <shrini1> :-)
[16:52] <shrini1> okey
[17:18] <shrini1> ubuntujenkins: resume is not possible in bzr
[17:18] <shrini1> :-(
[17:19] <shrini1> what is the total size of the repo?
[17:19] <shrini1> i downloaded 56M
[17:19] <shrini1> what is the remaining size?
[17:19] <ubuntujenkins> total is 185.5mb so 135mb remaining
[17:22] <shrini1> ubuntujenkins: thanks
[17:22] <ubuntujenkins> lets hope its third time lucky
[17:23] <pleia2> ubuntujenkins: I think just using the same time as before in a week or so will be ok
[17:23] <pleia2> re: meeting
[17:24] <ubuntujenkins> ok thanks pleia2 I was just thinking about it randomly
[17:27]  * pleia2 nods
[17:58]  * ubuntujenkins uploads the new latex packages
[18:29] <shrini> team
[18:29] <shrini> need help
[18:29] <shrini> make ubuntu-manual-ta.pdf
[18:29] <shrini> did that
[18:29] <shrini> but
[18:29] <godbyk> what's up, shrini?
[18:29] <shrini> tamil fonts are not displayed
[18:29] <shrini> getting boxes
[18:29] <shrini> :-)
[18:30] <shrini> just tried
[18:30] <shrini> some 8% of translation is uploaded to LP
[18:30] <godbyk> shrini: let me try it here real quick.
[18:30] <godbyk> I may not have the Tamil fonts set up yet.
[18:30] <shrini> godbykthanks
[18:30] <shrini> ok
[18:31] <godbyk> shrini: yeah, I apparently don't have the tamil fonts set up yet.
[18:32] <godbyk> shrini: I'm going to grab some lunch and then I'll get the fonts for you.
[18:32] <shrini> okey
[18:32] <shrini> will be awake long today
[18:32] <godbyk> ok
[18:32] <shrini> have to uplaod the pending translations
[18:33] <godbyk> ooh.. tamil is a pretty script!
[18:34] <godbyk> okay.  lunch first. then I'll fix the fonts.
[18:34] <godbyk> :)
[18:34] <ubuntujenkins> godbyk: I should package those today
[18:34] <godbyk> ubuntujenkins: package what?
[18:35] <ubuntujenkins> the tamil fonts?
[18:35] <godbyk> there are already some in the repositories. I'll probably just find a couple a like and toss 'em in.  (and change them if shrini says they look bad.)
[18:36] <godbyk> ubuntujenkins: See the ttf-tamil-fonts Ubuntu package for a few of the fonts.
[18:36] <shrini> i have installed already
[18:37] <ubuntujenkins> ok thanks, I am on a packing role today updated the  ppa with packages buitl on the newest possible source
[18:40] <shrini> http://saranyaselvaraj.wordpress.com/2009/10/22/latex-using-tamil-document-and-commands/
[18:40] <shrini> will this link help?
[18:43] <godbyk> shrini: That's describes what we've been doing, yeah.
[18:45] <shrini> oh
[18:45] <shrini> grea
[18:45] <shrini> t
[18:45] <godbyk> shrini: How do you indicate emphasis?  For instance, with the English fonts, we can use italics and bold.  Do italics/bold mean anything with the Tamil script?
[18:46] <shrini> :-)
[18:46] <shrini> bold/italics are there
[18:46] <shrini> but
[18:46] <godbyk> okay
[18:46] <shrini> not sure how to do in latex
[18:46] <shrini> normally it should work
[18:47] <godbyk> I'll worry about the LaTeX side of things.
[18:47] <shrini> hmmm
[18:47] <shrini> do we have any other translated pdf?
[18:47] <godbyk> I just need to know what differences I need to make for Tamil from English.
[18:47] <shrini> can compare
[18:48] <godbyk> To compare what?
[18:48] <shrini> can compare with other languages, if any
[18:48] <godbyk> Ah, well, you can see our translated PDFs on this page: http://builds.ubuntu-manual.org/
[18:49] <godbyk> (The first icon in the Files column links to the PDF.
[18:49] <godbyk> The Greek manual is almost ready to be released.
[18:54] <shrini> godbyk: wow
[18:54] <shrini> found another one
[18:55] <shrini> in my evince, the left pane has index
[18:55] <shrini> that has some proper font in tamil
[18:55] <godbyk> Yes.
[18:55] <shrini> the left side only shows boxes
[18:55] <shrini> :-)
[18:55] <godbyk> Finished lunch.  Setting up your fonts now.
[18:55] <godbyk> Do you use quotation marks?  If so, which ones?
[18:56] <shrini> godbyk: where?
[18:57] <godbyk> shrini: We're using them around the names of windows.
[18:58] <shrini> any example?
[18:58] <shrini> in po file?
[18:59] <godbyk> Anytime the \window command it used, it puts the text in quotation marks.
[18:59] <godbyk> So \window{My Window Name} would appear as "My Window Name" in the English PDF.
[18:59] <shrini> oh
[18:59] <shrini> we did not go that much
[19:00] <shrini> only 6% uploaded to LP
[19:00] <shrini> we are uploading now
[19:00] <shrini> in the mean time, tried to see how it works
[19:02] <godbyk> Not to worry. We can deal with that later.
[19:03] <shrini> okey
[19:03] <shrini> thanks
[19:03] <shrini> another question
[19:03] <shrini> i uploaded 3 full chapters in LP
[19:04] <shrini> could not get all text in tamil for 3 chapters
[19:04] <shrini> for example, check chapter 7
[19:05] <godbyk> shrini: I don't understand your question. Sorry.
[19:06] <shrini> okok
[19:07] <shrini> i uploaded the text to LP for 3 chapters
[19:07] <shrini> but seeing them in english only
[19:07] <shrini> in the pdf
[19:07] <shrini> only very few headings are shown as boxes atleast
[19:08] <godbyk> Ah, gotcha.
[19:09] <godbyk> If you've uploaded the text pretty recently (that is, after May 30th), then it won't appear yet.
[19:09] <godbyk> I have to copy the text from Launchpad into the PDFs by running a script.  And I haven't done that for a few days.
[19:10] <godbyk> If your translations appear in Launchpad, then they will appear in the PDF the next time I create it.
[19:11] <shrini> godbyk: oh
[19:11] <shrini> thats great
[19:11] <shrini> how can I compile manually?
[19:12] <shrini> i did all the bzr branch stuff
[19:12] <shrini> make ubuntu-manual-ta.pdf
[19:12] <godbyk> shrini: Have you installed TeX Live 2009?
[19:12] <shrini> yes
[19:13] <godbyk> okay. Running 'make ubuntu-manual-ta.pdf' should generate a PDF file by that name.
[19:13] <godbyk> If it gives you errors, paste them to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and I'll look at them for you.
[19:13] <shrini> no errros
[19:13] <shrini> I can get the pdf
[19:14] <shrini> but missing lot of stuff in tamil
[19:14] <shrini> ok
[19:14] <shrini> leave it
[19:15] <shrini> Let me finish uploading to LP fully
[19:15] <godbyk> Okay.
[19:15] <shrini> then, will check
[19:15] <shrini> but, please look on the font issue in the right pane
[19:15] <godbyk> I have to manually download the translations from Launchpad and put them in the bzr repository.
[19:15] <godbyk> They won't show up in the PDFs until I do that.
[19:15] <godbyk> shrini: I'm looking at the fonts right now. I should have the font issue fixed shortly.
[19:16] <shrini> godbyk thanks
[19:27] <shrini> checked arabic pdf
[19:27] <shrini> pages are less
[19:27] <shrini> but the fonts are good
[19:28] <godbyk> shrini: Do you have any recommendations for great-looking Tamil fonts?
[19:28] <shrini> no
[19:28] <godbyk> Most of the ones I've looked at are boring and blech.
[19:28] <shrini> what is the font name you use for tamil?
[19:28] <godbyk> Tamil is such a beautiful script, yet most of the fonts are so flat.
[19:29] <godbyk> I'm trying to decide which fonts to use right now.
[19:29] <shrini> yes. we have very less FOSS fonts in tamil
[19:29] <shrini> tons of beautiful fonts on commercial world
[19:29] <godbyk> Which commercial fonts do you like?
[19:31] <shrini> KA-lagaram
[19:31] <shrini> is a neat font
[19:31] <shrini> not free
[19:31] <shrini> we use it in our DTP centers
[19:39] <godbyk> Hey, shrini, would you like to be the translation editor for Tamil?
[19:39] <shrini> :-)
[19:39] <shrini> with pleasure
[19:40] <shrini> what i have to do/
[19:40] <shrini> ?
[19:40] <godbyk> Well, you'll be my point-of-contact for the Tamil translation team.
[19:40] <godbyk> And you'll have the final say when we're ready to publish the Tamil manual.
[19:41] <shrini> sure
[19:41] <godbyk> Awesome.  What's your full name, email address, and launchpad ID?
[19:41] <shrini> Full Name : Shrinivasan
[19:41] <shrini> tshrinivasan@gmail.com
[19:42] <shrini> LP id : shrini
[19:43] <godbyk> Perfect, thanks!
[19:44] <shrini> thank you
[19:46] <godbyk> shrini: I'll search for some nicer fonts this evening.  I should probably get back to other work for now, though.
[19:47] <shrini> godbyk: fine
[19:47] <godbyk> If you're not on IRC when I've fixed the fonts, I will email you to let you know.
[19:47] <shrini> one interesting news
[19:47] <shrini> this sunday, june 6
[19:47] <shrini> we celebrate ubuntu release party
[19:47] <shrini> on that party
[19:47] <shrini> we planned to release this book
[19:47] <shrini> is it posible?
[19:48] <shrini> :-)
[19:48] <shrini> text is ready
[19:48] <godbyk> I don't think it will be ready in two days.
[19:48] <shrini> we will upload it to LP tonight
[19:48] <godbyk> We need to get the translations in Launchpad.
[19:48] <shrini> ya
[19:48] <godbyk> And there are some other LaTeX things I will need your help with sorting out, too.
[19:48] <shrini> oh
[19:48] <shrini> thats fine
[19:48] <shrini> let us try our best
[19:48] <godbyk> For instance, right now, the index doesn't know how to alphabetize Tamil.
[19:49] <shrini> oh
[19:49] <shrini> okey
[19:49] <godbyk> And LaTeX has some words built-in (like 'Chapter' and 'Section') that I will need you to translate.
[19:49] <shrini> i think we can keep the keywords
[19:49] <shrini> as it is
[19:49] <ubuntujenkins> also there are still 26 screenshots to do
[19:50] <godbyk> Ah, good point, ubuntujenkins.
[19:50] <shrini> how do you find the numbers?
[19:50] <godbyk> shrini: http://screenshots.ubuntu-manual.org/
[19:51] <godbyk> Hey, ubuntujenkins. What can we do to get rid of the php warnings on that page?  (They just look ugly.)
[19:51] <shrini> how to see the existing tamil screenshots?
[19:51] <godbyk> (I could disable warnings, but it'd be better to fix the code, I think.)
[19:51] <ubuntujenkins> godbyk: not sure ask flan
[19:51] <godbyk> ubuntujenkins: will do.
[19:51] <ubuntujenkins> shrini: I will find you the details of the current screenshots
[19:51] <godbyk> hey, flan! :)
[19:52] <shrini> ubuntujenkins: fine
[19:52] <shrini> is there any possible to use english screenshots?
[19:53] <ubuntujenkins> shrini: the current scrrenshots for tamil are in bzr branch  lp:~ubuntu-manual/ubuntu-manual-screenshots/ta
[19:54] <ubuntujenkins> I think that by using tamil screenshots it will add to the professional look of it
[19:54] <godbyk> And the screenshots are pretty easy to take.
[19:54] <ubuntujenkins> shrini: do you have lucid?
[19:55] <shrini> fine
[19:55] <shrini> i have lucid
[19:55] <shrini> but the problem
[19:55] <shrini> is tamil is a different language
[19:55] <shrini> and tamil people are different
[19:55] <shrini> we prefer english than tamil for the UI
[19:55] <shrini> though we have tamil UI
[19:56] <shrini> the usage is very less
[19:56] <shrini> negligable
[19:56] <shrini> if we give this manual with tamil screenshots
[19:56] <godbyk> That's interesting.
[19:56] <shrini> people wont find in their desktops
[19:56] <ubuntujenkins> that is interesting
[19:56] <shrini> :-)
[19:56] <shrini> we are strugling hard to push tamil
[19:56] <shrini> in UI
[19:56] <godbyk> shrini: Why do most of them prefer the English UI?  Is it because most systems don't have a good Tamil UI?
[19:57] <shrini> godbyk: yes
[19:57] <shrini> and the words are very old
[19:57] <shrini> young generation feel odd to see tamil in UI
[19:57] <godbyk> Is it better to show the English screenshots or better to show the Tamil screenshots (to show them that there is a Tamil UI)?
[19:57] <shrini> English UI is better
[19:57] <shrini> for now
[19:58] <shrini> our goal is to write a book about ubuntu
[19:58] <shrini> in tamil
[19:58] <godbyk> shrini: When you talk about the names of UI things in the text, are you using the English words or Tamil words?
[19:58] <shrini> we use english words only
[19:58] <shrini> no 100% translation
[19:58] <ubuntujenkins> would a new user choose tamil as their language when they did an install? If i had never used ubuntu before i would choose tamil as it is my language. (Thats my logic)
[19:59] <shrini> it wont work
[19:59] <shrini> ubuntujenkins: you are right
[19:59] <shrini> but reality here is different
[20:00] <shrini> I am with ubuntu for 3 years
[20:00] <shrini> never seen a tamil desktop
[20:00] <shrini> I used it for 1 year in tamil ui
[20:00] <godbyk> Wow.
[20:00] <shrini> others found difficult to use my system
[20:00] <godbyk> I learn so much from our translators! :)
[20:00] <shrini> even for some emergency
[20:00] <shrini> it is a shame on us
[20:01] <shrini> to reject native language in ui
[20:01] <shrini> but, we need spread ubuntu, not native language
[20:01] <shrini> :-)
[20:01] <ubuntujenkins> wow.
[20:01] <ubuntujenkins> I tend to navigate by pictures, after all of the quickshot testing
[20:01] <ubuntujenkins> the icons are always the same
[20:01] <shrini> I personally prefer tamil in ui
[20:02] <shrini> but the public wont accept it
[20:02] <godbyk> I lived in Germany for a year and didn't speak German.  When I had to use a German computer, I had to guess what the words meant based on their position (I new that 'New' was usually the first item in the File menu, for instance).
[20:04] <godbyk> Hey, c7p.  I haven't forgotten about you! I'm going to work on the Greek translation this evening after work.
[20:04] <godbyk> c7p: I think we're pretty close. I just need to run through it to make sure we haven't missed anything.
[20:04] <shrini> godbyk: thats great. germans rock
[20:04] <c7p> godbyk: hey :D I'me glad to hear that
[20:04] <shrini> it may take some years for tamil to push in UI
[20:05] <godbyk> shrini: You may have to invent some new Tamil words just for the UI. :)
[20:07] <c7p> godbyk: So the license issue is over >
[20:07] <c7p> ?*
[20:08] <godbyk> c7p: Well, for this first edition, we will have to use the English license. But we can put a Greek paragraph at the top that links to the Greek license.
[20:08] <godbyk> c7p: We're hoping to convince the Creative Commons lawyers to let our translators translate the licenses. Then they can have the translated licenses proofread or whatever and we can start using them.
[20:09] <godbyk> c7p: But for this first edition, we're stuck with English.
[20:11] <c7p> godbyk: good :) np since there is a translated paragraph explaining the situation, as it is on the license-el.tex that I have sent you recently, hmm haven't I?
[20:12] <godbyk> yep, I got your email.
[20:12] <shrini> godbyk: hahaah
[20:12] <godbyk> c7p: have you already copied that into the ubuntu-manual-el.tex file?
[20:12] <shrini> we created 1 font
[20:12] <shrini> still needs improvement
[20:12] <godbyk> shrini: It's really hard to make good fonts.
[20:13] <shrini> yes
[20:13] <c7p> godbyk: hm I don't remember let me check it
[20:14] <shrini> godbyk: http://saranyaselvaraj.wordpress.com/2009/09/29/creating-tamil-fonts/
[20:16] <godbyk> shrini: Yeah, I saw that when I was looking for fonts.
[20:17] <godbyk> shrini: Speaking of, do you like any of the fonts on this page? http://www.wazu.jp/gallery/Fonts_Tamil.html
[20:17] <shrini> godbyk: great
[20:17] <godbyk> shrini: Or do you have any favorite open/free fonts?
[20:17] <c7p> godbyk: I corrected the license link on the first page to http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/deed . Now should I copy the content of license.tex into the ubuntu-manual tex ?
[20:20] <shrini> godbyk: Lohit Tamil
[20:20] <shrini> is fine
[20:20] <godbyk> c7p: Yeah, it'd be a help to me if you could copy the license stuff over to the ubuntu-manual-el.tex file.
[20:22] <godbyk> shrini: thanks, I'll give it a shot.  are there any nice calligraphic-style tamil fonts?  what kinds of fonts are usually used for books written in tamil?  fonts with strokes that never vary in width? or fonts with strokes that do vary in width?
[20:23] <c7p> godbyk: sure if that helps. I paste it to the line of "\LoadLicenseFile" (of course i will delete this \LoadLicenseFile). ok?
[20:23] <shrini> godbyk: for book printing, font should not vary in width
[20:24] <shrini> godbyk: same width font should be used
[20:24] <godbyk> c7p: That should work, yeah.
[20:24] <shrini> godbyk: else, the spacing wont be even.
[20:24] <godbyk> shrini: okay.
[20:24] <shrini> as you said, that link is the famous page for tamil unicode fonts
[20:25] <godbyk> shrini: I like the ones that vary in width, though. :(
[20:25] <shrini> godbyk: can u show some example for the same in engkish?
[20:25] <shrini> have to check if I understood correctly
[20:25] <shrini> :-)
[20:26] <godbyk> shrini: Well, on that page of Tamil fonts, if you compare Lohit Tamil to Akshar Unicode, for instance.
[20:26] <godbyk> Notice that with Akshar Unicode, the thickness of the brush stroke changes as the brush changes direction.
[20:27] <godbyk> With Lohit Tamil, it looks like it was drawn with a marker instead of a brush -- the stroke widths don't change.
[20:28] <shrini> godbyk: you are right
[20:28] <shrini> that is also nice
[20:28] <shrini> but, for printing lohit tamil will be fine and professional
[20:29] <shrini> I think, if I want to change the pdf in another font, I can change in some config file and compile a new pdf with new tamil font.
[20:29] <shrini> am i right?
[20:31] <godbyk> shrini: Kind of.  Let me set it up for Lohit Tamil real quick and see if that works.
[20:33] <shrini> godbyk: great
[20:35] <godbyk> Ah, there's more code I have to write before it will work.
[20:36] <godbyk> I'll write that code tonight.  I will also send you an email with the LaTeX translations I will need from you.  (There are only about a dozen words.)
[20:43] <shrini> godbyk: sure
[20:55] <c7p> godbyk: i've sent you the mail. After inclusion of license on the main tex file, the compilation is done with success but lot with no errors :/ although the pdf looks fine
[20:56] <godbyk> c7p: you said you did get errors when you compiled it?
[20:56] <c7p> godbyk: yes re annoying lines :)
[20:56] <c7p> red*
[20:56] <godbyk> okay
[20:57] <godbyk> I'm still waiting for your email to arrive.
[20:57] <c7p> omg gmail is freezed
[20:57] <godbyk> Can you paste the ubuntu-manual-el.log file to http://paste.ubuntu.com/?
[21:00] <c7p> godbyk: finally the message has gone. check the log http://paste.ubuntu.com/444782/
[21:01] <godbyk> ok
[21:02] <c7p> godbyk: g2g brb in a half hour
[22:00] <c7p> back
[22:34] <ubuntujenkins> night all
[22:47] <cwoollard> g'night
[22:57] <c7p> night all