[01:58] <robinetd> There's a guy named spaceghostc2c in #ubuntu-offtopic who trolls me and is generally offensive whenever he and I around at the same time.
[04:04] <robinetd> spaceghostc2c is being offensive again to multiple people.
[04:04] <robinetd> in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:05] <robinetd> He's been doing this every time I look at my monitor. Can someone confront him about it or something?
[04:06] <Flannel> robinetd: I'll read my scrollback
[04:06] <robinetd> Flannel, Thank you.
[04:07] <elky> I'm not seeing it.
[04:10] <robinetd> elky, How do you mean? Multiple people agree that he's blatantly offensive more often than not. He's called me stupid, a troll, and been a hypocrite in general each and every time I communicated with him.
[04:10] <robinetd> Well, he was at least informative when I asked him about spaghetti squash, but that's the exception to the rule.
[04:11] <Flannel> robinetd: the most recent episode I think has more to do with you being sensitive to it, but I agree that he's has a habit of walking a line.
[04:11] <robinetd> Flannel, Normally I wouldn't mind, but it's been continued abuse all day. It gets frustrating.
[04:11] <Flannel> robinetd: I encourage you to just let it slide in the future, because you needn't worry about what idiots say, and I'll keep an eye on him
[04:11] <Flannel> robinetd: Aye.
[04:12] <robinetd> Flannel, Alright, thanks.
[04:14] <elky> That all started because spaceghostc2c told him he was wrong for something he was wrong about. Im reluctant to reward him for that.
[04:15] <Flannel> elky: If robinetd relaxes a little then he'll be fine.
[04:15] <elky> If he's going to be accusatory to spaceghostc2c every time there's a point of disagreement, i'm likely to agree with the labels he's been granted in response.
[04:16] <IdleOne> Space can be trying at times indeed. He's my friend and gets on my nerves lol
[04:16] <Flannel> but SGc2c does walk lines and goad people.  I have no idea whats going on between those two specifically.
[04:17] <IdleOne> Well I don't believe we are here to settle personal grudges but at the same time if a user is feeling harassed we should address it
[04:18] <elky> IdleOne, yeah, but robinetd is more aggressive to sgc2c than vice versa.
[04:18] <elky> So we'd have a hard time addressing it
[04:18] <IdleOne> well we could just ask one to ignore the other
[04:18] <IdleOne> Flannel: tried that with robin but it didn't seem to want to take
[04:18] <elky> sgc2c is just being his obnoxious self, robinetd is just taking it all personally because it's a newly noticed thing and it's being obvious because of it.
[04:19] <elky> ftr, sgc2c gets on my nerves too, but less so since he's stopped asking for permission to go to sleep.
[04:19] <IdleOne> lol
[04:20] <Flannel> IdleOne: Ignoring is a bad solution, since it effectively just hides the problem
[04:21] <IdleOne> well I meant more they could just avoid each other
[04:25] <Flannel> IdleOne: He's had it mentioned a few times aleady, it seems.
[04:26] <IdleOne> he admits to it also
[04:26] <IdleOne> oh you meant space and robin
[04:27] <Flannel> No, I meant blendmaster
[04:27] <IdleOne> ahh well
[04:27] <IdleOne> next offence should be a ban imo
[04:27] <IdleOne> no warnings, he has had enough
[07:20] <Flannel> sean is back.
[07:22] <jussi> sean?
[07:22] <Flannel> Guest*
[07:38] <rww> R3cur51v3's last in #ubuntu-offtopic appears to translate to rm -rf /*
[07:39] <rww> I don't know how, but I see em -ef and a tr from e to r, so...
[07:42] <jussi> sigh
[08:16] <rww> hellwolf06 is being persistantly offtopic in #ubuntu
[08:16] <rww> hoho
[08:17] <Tm_T> hi
[09:35] <jpds> Bots Having Fun™.
[09:38] <marienz> it's possible they're testing the waters because we parted idoru from #ubuntu a short while ago
[09:39] <marienz> it looks like your bots in #ubuntu + idoru in #-unregged have them under control for now, but we're keeping an eye on things
[09:40] <elky> <3 idoru
[09:41] <marienz> she took out one overly repetitive confused user too many, so we wanted to see if the channel could function without her for a while
[09:45] <jussi> marienz: ahh, awesome. do let us know how things go from your end
[09:53] <elky> !microsoft
[09:54] <Tm_T> apparently he meant that string should be added to the end of it
[10:08] <jussi> lol, rww is funny
[10:10] <elky> yep
[10:18] <marienz> he's right though, it does make you sound like one
[10:21] <elky> flannel must have my blog post as a macro or something
[10:21] <Flannel> elky: I used the googers
[10:21] <elky> heh
[10:22] <elky> maybe i should put it over with my other PSAs and we can link it in the factoid
[11:02] <bazhang> thanks
[11:05] <elky> heh
[11:10] <bazhang> Guest2978, hi
[11:11] <bazhang>  Guest2978 (~root@117.200.243.14   <--- the root @ is banned in #backtrack-linux ; log off IRC, change to a different ident and then join #backtrack-linux
[11:12] <Guest2978> wat do u mean??
[11:12] <jussi> Right, so who wants to volunteer for something?
[11:13] <jussi> hrm, itll wait.
[11:13] <bazhang> jussi, for what
[11:13] <jussi> bazhang: sort Guest2978 out and then we can talk
[11:13] <bazhang> Guest2978, your account shows root@IP address
[11:13] <Guest2978> how to change to different ident
[11:13] <Guest2978> ??
[11:14] <Guest2978> can any1 help be abt backtrak
[11:14] <bazhang> Guest2978, change the root by logging off IRC, quitting the irc client, then setting it up with something not root
[11:14] <Guest2978> ???
[11:14] <elky> alternatively, do the sensible thing and make a non-root user and don't IRC as root at all.
[11:14] <Guest2978> elky can u help me abt bt??
[11:15] <bazhang> Guest2978, quit IRC. change the root@ ident in your client.
[11:15] <elky> could you use whole words rather than their abbreviations please?
[11:15] <Guest2978> bazhang are you a bot?
[11:15] <bazhang> Guest2978, I wish
[11:15] <Guest2978> i mean backtrak elky??
[11:15] <knome> elky, he needs the instructions how to change his ident :P
[11:15] <elky> no, i cannot help you with backtrack.
[11:15] <bazhang> Guest2978, in #backtrack-linux
[11:16] <Guest2978> ywat do u mean by day bahzang...my english is not gud
[11:16] <bazhang> hmm
[11:16] <knome> uh
[11:16] <elky> if he can't figure how to make a new user, i suspect backtrack isn't the distro for him
[11:17] <bazhang> thought my instructions were fairly clear
[11:17] <elky> it depends. "ident" doesn't mean much when you consider xchat.
[11:17] <knome> mmh
[11:17] <bazhang> true
[11:17] <jussi> So, volunteers...
[11:17] <knome> !ident
[11:17] <bazhang> !fail
[11:17] <bazhang> haha
[11:18] <knome> bazhang, you can add the factoid so i won't fail again
[11:18]  * knome coughs
[11:18] <elky> jussi, i don't volunteer for things until I know /what/ i'm volunteering for.
[11:18] <knome> jussi, exactly.
[11:18] <bazhang> knome, for what? ident? is that really necessary?
[11:18] <knome> jussi, i'm not going to be your donkey.
[11:18] <jussi> I was wondering if someone would be willing to work on a wiki page for the operator tech guide, as laid out here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcCouncil/IRCteamproposal
[11:18] <knome> bazhang, would make sense, especially considering what elky said
[11:18] <jussi> knome: you are resigning? awww
[11:18] <jussi> :P
[11:18] <knome> jussi, ;)
[11:18] <bazhang> knome, then suggest something
[11:19] <knome> okay
[11:19] <bazhang> ie !factoid is <reply> blah blah blah
[11:22] <jussi> I and the ircc  will be contributing to the document also, but if someof you would be willing to get some of it done, that would be great
[11:22] <jussi> Just put it as a sub page under your own wiki page and we will move it when its ready
[11:22] <jussi> so, Any volunteers?
[11:23] <knome> !ident is <reply> In addition to your hostname, ident is a part of the string you can be identified with at IRC. For security reasons, please do not use "root" as your ident. To change your ident, see ...
[11:23] <knome> (bad english, but just a proposal anyway)
[11:24] <bazhang> !rootirc
[11:24] <knome> a-ha...
[11:24] <knome> but no instructions on how to change the ident, if you HAVE to irc as root
[11:25] <knome> or if your irc username just happens to be root
[11:25] <knome> (i've seen those as well)
[11:25] <bazhang> well that would be every IRC client then
[11:26] <knome> instructions for the most used, eg. xchat and possible others that come preinstalled in ubuntu.
[11:26] <knome> and irssi, possibly, since that's a oneliner here anyway
[11:26] <bazhang> quassel, irssi, weechat xchat, etc
[11:27] <knome> just thought it would be easier to have a factoid. if you don't think so, feel free to describe the process every time
[11:27] <bazhang> sometimes it is. I myself don't know outside of xchat
[11:28] <bazhang> that kind of situation is quite rare though.
[11:28] <knome> maybe
[11:28] <knome> but proven that it happens :)
[11:29] <Flannel> Could always just spend the time talking to the person instead of throwing a factoid at them
[11:29] <knome> Flannel, true, but factoids are usually pretty great addition
[11:30] <knome> Flannel, when you can help the user, and then just throw in a factoid with url, which has clear instructions
[11:30] <knome> Flannel, makes life easier :)
[11:33] <jussi> !rootirc
[11:42] <knome> jussi, saw that already.
[11:43] <jussi> So, any volunteers for the ops tech guide?
[11:43]  * knome hides
[12:04] <elky> Flannel, http://geekosophical.net/random/microsoft/ do with it what you will
[12:14] <shadeslayer> hi
[12:14] <bazhang> hi
[12:14] <shadeslayer> can someone tell me when the next council meeting is?
[12:15] <shadeslayer> ill be applying for membership,so just need the info :)
[12:15] <bazhang> !derivatives
[12:15] <bazhang> set an alias is !factoid is <alias> different trigger?
[12:17] <shadeslayer> oh found it in the  topic :P
[12:17] <shadeslayer> well.. thats long gone..
[12:20] <elky> shadeslayer, I'm pretty sure the IRC Council isn't a Regional Membership Board
[12:20] <elky> !member
[12:20] <elky> The info you need will be on that page.
[12:21] <shadeslayer> elky: ok.. ill have a look again
[12:21] <shadeslayer> thanks :)
[12:22] <jussi> _yet_
[12:22] <jussi> We just have to finish off the proceedural stuff
[12:23] <elky> Right, so if he turns up at next IRCC he can apply for membership?
[12:23] <jussi> not the next one...
[12:23] <jussi> but soonish
[12:23] <elky> If not, then what I said was correct at this point in time. No use confusing him with such triviality
[12:23] <jussi> I said it after he left, to inform people in here that it was happening
[12:33] <jussi> Ok, elky, knome bazhang etc I apologise. The operator guide has already been worked on! feel free to contribute though, if you feel something is missing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/nhandler/OperatorGuide
[12:33]  * jussi grumbles at a poor memory and blames friday afternoon
[12:35] <knome> heh, no problem jussi
[12:36] <bazhang> !tgif
[12:36] <bazhang> aww
[12:36] <knome> fail.
[12:36] <jussi> !fail | bazhang
[12:36] <bazhang> hehe
[12:37] <bazhang> I prefer the -ot one
[12:37] <jussi> and that is how that factoid was supposed to be used :P
[12:37] <jussi> which one?
[12:38] <bazhang> !fail-#ubuntu-offtopic
[12:38] <knome> jussi, it would be even cooler though if ubottu didn't say ":"
[12:38] <jussi> knome: yeah...
[14:04] <jpds> Really inappropiate nick in #u.
[14:07] <jussi> jpds: ?
[14:07] <jpds> jussi: han<tab>
[14:08] <jussi> jpds: why is that inappropriate?
[14:08] <jpds> Alright, nevermind.
[14:10] <gnomefreak> that is kind of inapporate nick
[14:10] <bazhang> handjob?
[14:11] <gnomefreak> can anyone give me an idea what is going on with kaushal and jungli
[14:11] <gnomefreak> bazhang: yes
[14:11] <bazhang> going to remove jungli if he does not stop
[14:13] <gnomefreak> i was going to remove both of them but whated background first
[14:13] <Pici> btw, I consolidated the two virus factoids.
[14:13] <gnomefreak> wanted
[14:18] <LjL> hi
[14:19] <bazhang> hi
[14:19] <gnomefreak> hi
[14:19] <Tm_T> hi
[14:19] <Pici> hi
[14:20] <LjL> bazhang, do you think kaushal deserved that harsh warning of yours, first "jungli, kaushal stop it or you  will be removed" and then "kaushal, stay on topic or you will be removed"?
[14:20] <LjL> as far as i can see, he was being harrassed by the guy you kicked
[14:20] <LjL> and the harrassment wasn't stopping after the ops were called
[14:20] <bazhang> yeah. it had been going on for some time.
[14:20] <gnomefreak> LjL: i didnt see anything that looked that bad
[14:21] <LjL> gnomefreak: oh, you could understand the language jungli was using?
[14:21] <gnomefreak> maybe i didnt scroll enough
[14:21] <gnomefreak> LjL: no
[14:21] <bazhang> very nasty
[14:21] <gnomefreak> thats why i said keep it english :)
[14:21] <gnomefreak> ah
[14:21] <LjL> ok gnomefreak, i'm not blaming you for not acting on it if you had doubts about what was happening
[14:22] <LjL> it's just that well, most likely there *was* trolling/harrassment going on, so i was very surprised at the reaction to kaushal
[14:22] <bazhang> duly noted, thanks LjL
[14:23] <LjL> you see, i've witnessed a few times now cases when op intervention didn't happen timely (and i don't necessarily blame anyone for that, it happens), and then when it happened there was imho undue treatment of people reporting it - while you can't be watching the channels all the time, you must understand that if people see no intervention, eventually they will get upset
[14:23] <gnomefreak> what language was it?
[14:23] <LjL> i don't know gnomefreak, probably hindi, but google doesn't translate it since it's in latin transliteration
[14:23] <gnomefreak> i was prompt and asked in here what was going on with the 2 of them
[14:24] <gnomefreak> sort of
[14:24] <LjL> gnomefreak, again i can't and won't blame anyone for not banning people right away without checking just what's happening. that's fine.
[14:25] <bazhang> hindi, very unpleasant
[14:25] <LjL> although perhaps i might suggest that something like "let me catch up with the backscroll, and meanwhile please stay calm" could be a sort of nice warning to give in cases like this? i was talking about this yesterday
[14:26] <LjL> bazhang: you *also* speak hindi? :o
[14:26] <gnomefreak> that makes sense and i knew you wernt blaming me i just thought it a good idea on why i didnt do anything but warn
[14:26] <bazhang> LjL, nope, searched youtube/google for the translation
[14:27] <LjL> ah ok, was starting to be scared
[14:27] <LjL> alright, see you later
[14:28] <gnomefreak> isnt he an op?
[14:29] <bazhang> nope
[14:29] <gnomefreak> oh
[14:29] <bazhang> quit like a year ago
[14:29] <gnomefreak> after he left the IRCC or around that time (thinking i remember now)
[14:31] <bazhang> puregnome wrecks gnome?
[14:31] <Pici> eh?
[14:31] <bazhang> that's what nyusicakal is claiming
[14:32] <bazhang> nyuszika7h
[14:32]  * gnomefreak not sure what puregnome is
[14:32] <Pici> That page does warn that you should look at what apt is doing before you let it do its thing.
[14:33] <Pici> gnomefreak: Basically, remove kubuntu-desktop after you've installed it on an Ubuntu system.
[14:33] <bazhang> jungli is back
[14:34] <gnomefreak> Pici: yeah i was just searching for it. thanks
[14:35] <bazhang> got him in PM
[14:35] <Pici> Hrm.  Some of those packages on that list are a bit suspect.
[14:38] <Pici> cdrdao is a dependency of nautilus-cd-burner which is a dependency of nautilus
[14:39] <Pici> IdleOne: poke, regarding puregnome wiki page
[14:39] <Pici> ubottu: forget puregnome
[14:39] <Pici> Lets forget the factoid until this is resolved.
[14:40] <IdleOne> Pici: I copied that from the psychocats page. when I tried it it worked perfect
[14:40] <IdleOne> Good morning btw
[14:40] <Pici> hi!
[14:40] <Pici> IdleOne: You tried removing kubuntu using the longgg apt-get remove command?
[14:41] <IdleOne> yes
[14:41] <Pici> hrm.
[14:41] <IdleOne> I edited it to shorten but did not add any packages
[14:41] <IdleOne> using packages-* for example
[14:42] <IdleOne> if it is suspect remove the factoid. I can give it another shot this weekend
[14:42] <IdleOne> and see what happens
[14:43] <Pici> As much as I think that the guy in #ubuntu may have messed something up, I think we should just double check this first.
[14:44] <IdleOne> yes absolutely, not that I think psychocats is perfect but I have never had any problems with any of the help I used from that site
[14:47] <IdleOne> wait after running the long kubuntu removal command did he run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[14:47] <bazhang> jungli/puptodeb has been warned via PM to stop.
[14:48] <Pici> guh
[14:50] <Pici> btw, hiexpo said that he was quitting ubuntu.
[14:50] <Pici> hes still on my hilight list though.
[14:50] <IdleOne> Pici: heh he quits every other week
 exubuntu is a project to create a derivitive of Ubuntu using the extor desktop environment
[14:55] <Pici> I have a feeling that puptodeb/jungli isn't even using Ubuntu.
[14:56] <ikonia> jungli is known
[14:56] <bazhang> concur. think this is just a continuation of earlier trolling
[14:56] <bazhang> he admits as much via PM
[14:56] <ikonia> his version doesn't suggest he's running ubuntu
[15:02] <Pici> ubottu: remember puregnome
[15:02] <Pici> ubottu: unforget puregnome
[15:02] <bazhang> thought it was unforget
[15:02] <bazhang> hehe
[15:02] <Pici> I always do the wrong command for that.
[15:44] <Pici> ubottu: forget puregnome
[15:54] <gnomefreak> @login
[15:54] <gnomefreak> ok ubot4 doesnt know @login
[15:54] <jpds> Good.
[15:56] <gnomefreak> yep @login fails
[15:57] <gnomefreak> an ubot4 even though i am logged in by ubottu ubot4 still doesnt know me
[15:57] <Pici> Why should it?
[15:58] <gnomefreak> since its in the channel it should so i dont have to come to this channel to login :)
[15:59] <Pici> er. Why do you need to login to ubot4?
[15:59] <gnomefreak> Pici: if i wanted to update/make a fact* i need to be logged in or i would have to come to -ops to do anything
[16:00]  * gnomefreak guessing ubot4 doesnt have any ops things
[16:00] <gnomefreak> things/commands
[16:01] <Pici> gnomefreak: Doesn't ubot4 just sync its factoids from ubottu like the rest of the bot clones?
[16:01] <jpds> Yep.
[16:02] <gnomefreak> Pici: not sure it would i guess if i was noticed by it
[16:02] <jpds> gnomefreak: It does.
[16:02] <gnomefreak> add , as needed :(
[16:02] <jpds> gnomefreak: If you want to feed things to ubot4, give them to ubottu.
[16:03] <Pici> ubottu is like a mother bird
[16:03] <Pici> a mother bird bot
[16:03] <gnomefreak> there is no choice but to. I will set up an irssi alias for /msg ubottu than so i dont have to recall the spelling
[16:04] <jpds> # Sync bot database with master every 15 minutes.
[16:04] <jpds> */15 * * * * ~/sync_db.sh
[16:04] <gnomefreak> be back this burn is taking forever
[16:14] <gnomefreak> ok alias is set. thanks
[16:16] <jussi> Pici: we should have a factoid for that :P
[16:58] <axy_david> ok ami still banned_
[16:58] <axy_david> _
[16:58] <axy_david> ?
[17:01] <bazhang> axy_david, yes; do you know why you were banned?
[17:01] <axy_david> yes i sweared
 hello am curently an bot so please watch your language
[17:02] <axy_david> _____
[17:02] <axy_david> i didnt swear!
[17:03] <axy_david> ubuntu
[17:05] <axy_david> hellooooo how much shoud i wait i waited 4 like 3 weebs!
[17:07] <bazhang> axy_david, please read the channel guidelines and the code of conduct
[17:07] <bazhang> !coc | axy_david
[17:07] <bazhang> !guidelines | axy_david
[17:09] <axy_david> ok now im getting nowere
[17:10] <bazhang> axy_david, could you please rephrase? I can't understand you
[18:00] <Tm_T> bazhang: apparently no
[18:52] <Pici> 13:51:28 <?drizzt_> stop making brothel here plz
[18:52] <Pici> o.O