[01:58] There's a guy named spaceghostc2c in #ubuntu-offtopic who trolls me and is generally offensive whenever he and I around at the same time. [03:12] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from deathnight114) [04:04] spaceghostc2c is being offensive again to multiple people. [04:04] in #ubuntu-offtopic [04:05] He's been doing this every time I look at my monitor. Can someone confront him about it or something? [04:06] robinetd: I'll read my scrollback [04:06] Flannel, Thank you. [04:07] I'm not seeing it. [04:10] elky, How do you mean? Multiple people agree that he's blatantly offensive more often than not. He's called me stupid, a troll, and been a hypocrite in general each and every time I communicated with him. [04:10] Well, he was at least informative when I asked him about spaghetti squash, but that's the exception to the rule. [04:11] robinetd: the most recent episode I think has more to do with you being sensitive to it, but I agree that he's has a habit of walking a line. [04:11] Flannel, Normally I wouldn't mind, but it's been continued abuse all day. It gets frustrating. [04:11] robinetd: I encourage you to just let it slide in the future, because you needn't worry about what idiots say, and I'll keep an eye on him [04:11] robinetd: Aye. [04:12] Flannel, Alright, thanks. [04:14] That all started because spaceghostc2c told him he was wrong for something he was wrong about. Im reluctant to reward him for that. [04:15] elky: If robinetd relaxes a little then he'll be fine. [04:15] If he's going to be accusatory to spaceghostc2c every time there's a point of disagreement, i'm likely to agree with the labels he's been granted in response. [04:16] Space can be trying at times indeed. He's my friend and gets on my nerves lol [04:16] but SGc2c does walk lines and goad people. I have no idea whats going on between those two specifically. [04:17] Well I don't believe we are here to settle personal grudges but at the same time if a user is feeling harassed we should address it [04:18] IdleOne, yeah, but robinetd is more aggressive to sgc2c than vice versa. [04:18] So we'd have a hard time addressing it [04:18] well we could just ask one to ignore the other [04:18] Flannel: tried that with robin but it didn't seem to want to take [04:18] sgc2c is just being his obnoxious self, robinetd is just taking it all personally because it's a newly noticed thing and it's being obvious because of it. [04:19] ftr, sgc2c gets on my nerves too, but less so since he's stopped asking for permission to go to sleep. [04:19] lol [04:20] IdleOne: Ignoring is a bad solution, since it effectively just hides the problem [04:21] well I meant more they could just avoid each other [04:25] IdleOne: He's had it mentioned a few times aleady, it seems. [04:26] he admits to it also [04:26] oh you meant space and robin [04:27] No, I meant blendmaster [04:27] ahh well [04:27] next offence should be a ban imo [04:27] no warnings, he has had enough === IdleOne_ is now known as MaverickOne [07:04] rww called the ops in #ubuntu (LinuxGeek keeps wandering in and out with rm -rf) [07:20] sean is back. [07:22] sean? [07:22] Guest* [07:38] R3cur51v3's last in #ubuntu-offtopic appears to translate to rm -rf /* [07:39] I don't know how, but I see em -ef and a tr from e to r, so... [07:42] sigh [08:16] hellwolf06 is being persistantly offtopic in #ubuntu [08:16] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from hellwolf06) [08:16] hoho [08:17] hi [09:31] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) [09:31] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (flood (19)) [09:31] FloodBot4 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (flood (18)) [09:35] Bots Having Fun™. [09:38] it's possible they're testing the waters because we parted idoru from #ubuntu a short while ago [09:39] it looks like your bots in #ubuntu + idoru in #-unregged have them under control for now, but we're keeping an eye on things [09:40] <3 idoru [09:41] she took out one overly repetitive confused user too many, so we wanted to see if the channel could function without her for a while [09:45] marienz: ahh, awesome. do let us know how things go from your end [09:50] In #ubuntu-offtopic, rww said: !no microsoft is s/$/. Please note that "M$" makes you sound like a loony, and is not recommended./ [09:53] !microsoft [09:53] For discussion on Microsoft software, or help with same, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubottu equivalents [09:54] apparently he meant that string should be added to the end of it [10:08] lol, rww is funny [10:10] yep [10:18] he's right though, it does make you sound like one [10:21] flannel must have my blog post as a macro or something [10:21] elky: I used the googers [10:21] heh [10:22] maybe i should put it over with my other PSAs and we can link it in the factoid [11:02] In ubottu, nyuszika7h said: 1+1 is equal to 2 [11:02] In ubottu, nyuszika7h said: 1*1 is equal to 1 [11:02] thanks [11:05] heh [11:10] Guest2978, hi [11:11] Guest2978 (~root@117.200.243.14 <--- the root @ is banned in #backtrack-linux ; log off IRC, change to a different ident and then join #backtrack-linux [11:12] wat do u mean?? [11:12] Right, so who wants to volunteer for something? [11:13] hrm, itll wait. [11:13] jussi, for what [11:13] bazhang: sort Guest2978 out and then we can talk [11:13] Guest2978, your account shows root@IP address [11:13] how to change to different ident [11:13] ?? [11:14] can any1 help be abt backtrak [11:14] Guest2978, change the root by logging off IRC, quitting the irc client, then setting it up with something not root [11:14] ??? [11:14] alternatively, do the sensible thing and make a non-root user and don't IRC as root at all. [11:14] elky can u help me abt bt?? [11:15] Guest2978, quit IRC. change the root@ ident in your client. [11:15] could you use whole words rather than their abbreviations please? [11:15] bazhang are you a bot? [11:15] Guest2978, I wish [11:15] i mean backtrak elky?? [11:15] elky, he needs the instructions how to change his ident :P [11:15] no, i cannot help you with backtrack. [11:15] Guest2978, in #backtrack-linux [11:16] ywat do u mean by day bahzang...my english is not gud [11:16] hmm [11:16] uh [11:16] if he can't figure how to make a new user, i suspect backtrack isn't the distro for him [11:17] thought my instructions were fairly clear [11:17] it depends. "ident" doesn't mean much when you consider xchat. [11:17] mmh [11:17] true [11:17] So, volunteers... [11:17] !ident [11:17] !fail [11:17] FAILZ! [11:17] haha [11:18] bazhang, you can add the factoid so i won't fail again [11:18] * knome coughs [11:18] jussi, i don't volunteer for things until I know /what/ i'm volunteering for. [11:18] jussi, exactly. [11:18] knome, for what? ident? is that really necessary? [11:18] jussi, i'm not going to be your donkey. [11:18] I was wondering if someone would be willing to work on a wiki page for the operator tech guide, as laid out here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcCouncil/IRCteamproposal [11:18] bazhang, would make sense, especially considering what elky said [11:18] knome: you are resigning? awww [11:18] :P [11:18] jussi, ;) [11:18] knome, then suggest something [11:19] okay [11:19] ie !factoid is blah blah blah [11:22] I and the ircc will be contributing to the document also, but if someof you would be willing to get some of it done, that would be great [11:22] Just put it as a sub page under your own wiki page and we will move it when its ready [11:22] so, Any volunteers? [11:23] !ident is In addition to your hostname, ident is a part of the string you can be identified with at IRC. For security reasons, please do not use "root" as your ident. To change your ident, see ... [11:23] In #ubuntu-ops, knome said: !ident is In addition to your hostname, ident is a part of the string you can be identified with at IRC. For security reasons, please do not use "root" as your ident. To change your ident, see ... [11:23] (bad english, but just a proposal anyway) [11:24] !rootirc [11:24] It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet. [11:24] a-ha... [11:24] but no instructions on how to change the ident, if you HAVE to irc as root [11:25] or if your irc username just happens to be root [11:25] (i've seen those as well) [11:25] well that would be every IRC client then [11:26] instructions for the most used, eg. xchat and possible others that come preinstalled in ubuntu. [11:26] and irssi, possibly, since that's a oneliner here anyway [11:26] quassel, irssi, weechat xchat, etc [11:27] just thought it would be easier to have a factoid. if you don't think so, feel free to describe the process every time [11:27] sometimes it is. I myself don't know outside of xchat [11:28] that kind of situation is quite rare though. [11:28] maybe [11:28] but proven that it happens :) [11:29] Could always just spend the time talking to the person instead of throwing a factoid at them [11:29] Flannel, true, but factoids are usually pretty great addition [11:30] Flannel, when you can help the user, and then just throw in a factoid with url, which has clear instructions [11:30] Flannel, makes life easier :) [11:33] !rootirc [11:34] It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet. [11:42] jussi, saw that already. [11:43] So, any volunteers for the ops tech guide? [11:43] * knome hides [12:04] Flannel, http://geekosophical.net/random/microsoft/ do with it what you will === shadesla1er is now known as shadeslayer [12:14] hi [12:14] hi [12:14] can someone tell me when the next council meeting is? [12:15] ill be applying for membership,so just need the info :) [12:15] !derivatives [12:15] There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mintsupport), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux) [12:15] set an alias is !factoid is different trigger? [12:17] oh found it in the topic :P [12:17] well.. thats long gone.. [12:20] shadeslayer, I'm pretty sure the IRC Council isn't a Regional Membership Board [12:20] !member [12:20] Want to become an Ubuntu member? Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership [12:20] The info you need will be on that page. [12:21] elky: ok.. ill have a look again [12:21] thanks :) [12:22] _yet_ [12:22] We just have to finish off the proceedural stuff [12:23] Right, so if he turns up at next IRCC he can apply for membership? [12:23] not the next one... [12:23] but soonish [12:23] If not, then what I said was correct at this point in time. No use confusing him with such triviality [12:23] I said it after he left, to inform people in here that it was happening [12:33] Ok, elky, knome bazhang etc I apologise. The operator guide has already been worked on! feel free to contribute though, if you feel something is missing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/nhandler/OperatorGuide [12:33] * jussi grumbles at a poor memory and blames friday afternoon [12:35] heh, no problem jussi [12:36] !tgif [12:36] aww [12:36] fail. [12:36] !fail | bazhang [12:36] bazhang: FAILZ! [12:36] hehe [12:37] I prefer the -ot one [12:37] and that is how that factoid was supposed to be used :P [12:37] which one? [12:38] !fail-#ubuntu-offtopic [12:38] FATAL Error: Operation succeeded [12:38] jussi, it would be even cooler though if ubottu didn't say ":" [12:38] knome: yeah... [13:15] In #ubuntu, iguannna said: ubottu, this is my crontab for the sial user: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/Gk3QbXUa [14:04] Really inappropiate nick in #u. [14:07] wise_crypt called the ops in #ubuntu () [14:07] jpds: ? [14:07] jussi: han [14:08] jpds: why is that inappropriate? [14:08] Alright, nevermind. [14:10] that is kind of inapporate nick [14:10] handjob? [14:11] can anyone give me an idea what is going on with kaushal and jungli [14:11] bazhang: yes [14:11] going to remove jungli if he does not stop [14:13] i was going to remove both of them but whated background first [14:13] btw, I consolidated the two virus factoids. [14:13] wanted [14:18] hi [14:19] hi [14:19] hi [14:19] hi [14:19] hi [14:20] bazhang, do you think kaushal deserved that harsh warning of yours, first "jungli, kaushal stop it or you will be removed" and then "kaushal, stay on topic or you will be removed"? [14:20] as far as i can see, he was being harrassed by the guy you kicked [14:20] and the harrassment wasn't stopping after the ops were called [14:20] yeah. it had been going on for some time. [14:20] LjL: i didnt see anything that looked that bad [14:21] gnomefreak: oh, you could understand the language jungli was using? [14:21] maybe i didnt scroll enough [14:21] LjL: no [14:21] very nasty [14:21] thats why i said keep it english :) [14:21] ah [14:21] ok gnomefreak, i'm not blaming you for not acting on it if you had doubts about what was happening [14:22] it's just that well, most likely there *was* trolling/harrassment going on, so i was very surprised at the reaction to kaushal [14:22] duly noted, thanks LjL [14:23] you see, i've witnessed a few times now cases when op intervention didn't happen timely (and i don't necessarily blame anyone for that, it happens), and then when it happened there was imho undue treatment of people reporting it - while you can't be watching the channels all the time, you must understand that if people see no intervention, eventually they will get upset [14:23] what language was it? [14:23] i don't know gnomefreak, probably hindi, but google doesn't translate it since it's in latin transliteration [14:23] i was prompt and asked in here what was going on with the 2 of them [14:24] sort of [14:24] gnomefreak, again i can't and won't blame anyone for not banning people right away without checking just what's happening. that's fine. [14:25] hindi, very unpleasant [14:25] although perhaps i might suggest that something like "let me catch up with the backscroll, and meanwhile please stay calm" could be a sort of nice warning to give in cases like this? i was talking about this yesterday [14:26] bazhang: you *also* speak hindi? :o [14:26] that makes sense and i knew you wernt blaming me i just thought it a good idea on why i didnt do anything but warn [14:26] LjL, nope, searched youtube/google for the translation [14:27] ah ok, was starting to be scared [14:27] alright, see you later [14:28] isnt he an op? [14:29] nope [14:29] oh [14:29] quit like a year ago [14:29] after he left the IRCC or around that time (thinking i remember now) [14:31] puregnome wrecks gnome? [14:31] eh? [14:31] that's what nyusicakal is claiming [14:32] nyuszika7h [14:32] * gnomefreak not sure what puregnome is [14:32] That page does warn that you should look at what apt is doing before you let it do its thing. [14:33] gnomefreak: Basically, remove kubuntu-desktop after you've installed it on an Ubuntu system. [14:33] jungli is back [14:34] Pici: yeah i was just searching for it. thanks [14:35] got him in PM [14:35] Hrm. Some of those packages on that list are a bit suspect. [14:38] cdrdao is a dependency of nautilus-cd-burner which is a dependency of nautilus [14:39] IdleOne: poke, regarding puregnome wiki page [14:39] ubottu: forget puregnome [14:39] I'll forget that, Pici [14:39] Lets forget the factoid until this is resolved. [14:40] Pici: I copied that from the psychocats page. when I tried it it worked perfect [14:40] Good morning btw [14:40] hi! [14:40] IdleOne: You tried removing kubuntu using the longgg apt-get remove command? [14:41] yes [14:41] hrm. [14:41] I edited it to shorten but did not add any packages [14:41] using packages-* for example [14:42] if it is suspect remove the factoid. I can give it another shot this weekend [14:42] and see what happens [14:43] As much as I think that the guy in #ubuntu may have messed something up, I think we should just double check this first. [14:44] yes absolutely, not that I think psychocats is perfect but I have never had any problems with any of the help I used from that site [14:47] wait after running the long kubuntu removal command did he run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop? [14:47] jungli/puptodeb has been warned via PM to stop. [14:48] guh [14:50] btw, hiexpo said that he was quitting ubuntu. [14:50] hes still on my hilight list though. [14:50] Pici: heh he quits every other week [14:50] exubuntu is a project to create a derivitive of Ubuntu using the extor desktop environment [14:55] I have a feeling that puptodeb/jungli isn't even using Ubuntu. [14:56] jungli is known [14:56] concur. think this is just a continuation of earlier trolling [14:56] he admits as much via PM [14:56] his version doesn't suggest he's running ubuntu [15:02] ubottu: remember puregnome [15:02] ubottu: unforget puregnome [15:02] I suddenly remember puregnome again, Pici [15:02] thought it was unforget [15:02] hehe [15:02] I always do the wrong command for that. [15:44] ubottu: forget puregnome [15:44] I'll forget that, Pici [15:54] @login [15:54] The operation succeeded. [15:54] ok ubot4 doesnt know @login [15:54] Good. [15:56] yep @login fails [15:57] an ubot4 even though i am logged in by ubottu ubot4 still doesnt know me [15:57] Why should it? [15:58] since its in the channel it should so i dont have to come to this channel to login :) [15:59] er. Why do you need to login to ubot4? [15:59] Pici: if i wanted to update/make a fact* i need to be logged in or i would have to come to -ops to do anything [16:00] * gnomefreak guessing ubot4 doesnt have any ops things [16:00] things/commands [16:01] gnomefreak: Doesn't ubot4 just sync its factoids from ubottu like the rest of the bot clones? [16:01] Yep. [16:02] Pici: not sure it would i guess if i was noticed by it [16:02] gnomefreak: It does. [16:02] add , as needed :( [16:02] gnomefreak: If you want to feed things to ubot4, give them to ubottu. [16:03] ubottu is like a mother bird [16:03] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [16:03] a mother bird bot [16:03] there is no choice but to. I will set up an irssi alias for /msg ubottu than so i dont have to recall the spelling [16:04] # Sync bot database with master every 15 minutes. [16:04] */15 * * * * ~/sync_db.sh [16:04] be back this burn is taking forever [16:14] ok alias is set. thanks [16:16] Pici: we should have a factoid for that :P [16:58] ok ami still banned_ [16:58] _ [16:58] ? [17:01] axy_david, yes; do you know why you were banned? [17:01] yes i sweared [17:02] hello am curently an bot so please watch your language [17:02] _____ [17:02] i didnt swear! [17:03] ubuntu [17:05] hellooooo how much shoud i wait i waited 4 like 3 weebs! [17:07] axy_david, please read the channel guidelines and the code of conduct [17:07] !coc | axy_david [17:07] axy_david: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct is a community etiquette document to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere, and can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ . For information on how to electronically sign the CoC, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct . [17:07] !guidelines | axy_david [17:07] axy_david: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines [17:09] ok now im getting nowere [17:10] axy_david, could you please rephrase? I can't understand you [18:00] bazhang: apparently no [18:52] 13:51:28 stop making brothel here plz [18:52] o.O