[00:02] josefrichter__: do you have a make file in that directory [01:00] does anyone have a fix for this error showing while running the update manager in ubuntu 9.10: [01:00] W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 5A9A06AEF9CB8DB0 [01:04] no one is sending a reply so I guess not [01:08] Did you do a search on Google. It appears the problem (and the fix) are quite common. [01:12] I'll try that again... tried before and just saw the problem with no real solutions [01:19] I looked at the solution again. they involve running scripts from anonymous people. don't to take a chance of destroying the OS. it would help if you know of a trusted source [01:22] does this look like a viable fix: [01:22] http://www.webupd8.org/2009/06/automatically-import-launchpad-ppa-keys.html [01:26] that one has complains if you see comments [01:31] then you find other scripts that are supposed fixed that end out giving away you root directory password [01:47] i got that for the vbox ppa. oracle changed the key on it after taking over sun [01:48] https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+question/59304 [01:49] just went back to the site and copy/pasted the wget|apt-key line again [01:52] iceflatline: take a look over at http://swiss.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1221323 for a trusted source [01:54] oops, you can actually use http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1221323 that was the swiss mirror of the main ubuntu forum [01:55] thanks [01:56] phillwl: thanks. [01:57] that's a far simpler fix that what I saw on the searched sites [01:58] pdsmedia: there's one nice thing about ubuntu (and linux in general), you're very rarely the first person to have had the problem :-) [01:58] amen [01:59] when you 'google' put +ubuntu at the start of it (the + is important, and no space between it and ubuntu) [02:00] I'm aware of that but there are a lot of bogus fixes out there... maybe MS hackers trying to shut down Ubuntu installs [02:02] pdsmedia: when you land on the ubuntu forums, you're pretty safe. If the thread has a few people discussing, you're even more safe, if the thread has ubuntu members / admins / QA people / LocO team members, then you are very safe. Remember, if you are at all unsure - ASK :-) [02:02] good advice. thanks [02:03] pdsmedia: http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=57 will take you back to ubuntu forum, but explain it a bit more in depth [02:05] good evening :-) [02:05] hows everyone doing tonight? [02:05] hey all. [02:05] thanks phillwl [02:05] hola, wasssup in here tonite [02:06] evening [02:06] acerimmer_: u got any experience with sound issues? i have a bug where instead of having the speaker with sound waves in my panel, i have a hollow speaker with dotted lines. [02:07] linux_is_my_hero: hollowspeaker? it's muted? [02:07] acerimmer_: no, its not muted. [02:08] linux_is_my_hero: what distro? and have you changed any appearance configs? [02:08] 10.04 lucid...and i have stock appearance settings. [02:09] linux_is_my_hero: that is weird. I have a script that will reset all gnome panels back to default. But if you run it, you've obviously got to rebuild the panels... [02:11] acerimmer, but this is not really not designated as an 'installation' channel either [02:12] mikubuntu: i tried. sounds like a brainstorm suggestion if not a channel mod suggestion [02:13] ya, i think so [02:14] acerimmer_: im gunna check the alsamixer at the tty to see if its the panel or actually the drivers, because im not getting any sound either. [02:14] ok - following this one [02:14] it was very frustrating getting up and running for me, and i didn't know ANYTHING ... when i help my friends with installations i walk them hand in hand thru the process [02:15] mikubuntu: well that's better than my method... [02:15] which is? [02:15] trashed xp/win7 repeatedly, tried wubi then manned up to dual. [02:15] THEN decided I HAD to have hackintosh with all 3 OS's [02:16] i hate ms so much i'd never dual [02:16] yeah it appears alsamixer has been uninstalled because i cant run it from the tty. [02:16] gotta go do a cab ride, see ya guys [02:16] linux_is_my_hero: strange indeed [02:18] acerimmer_: and i cant install alsamixer either. [02:18] i have duty tomorrow and im watching a dvd...oh well, thanks for your help. [02:18] goodnight. [02:18] cya [02:21] pedro3005: either I've gone deaf, or it has quietened down ;-) [02:22] phillw1, indeed :) and you, my friend, should be asleep! [02:22] :P [02:23] I've been doing some lubuntu stuff & am still trying to get my baby forum back to as it should be [02:24] phillw1, it has grown up now :P [02:25] it will always be 'my baby' :p [02:29] Using 9.10 and Firefox 3.5, why can I not run videos on Yahoo News (or any other apparently)? [02:31] There's no "you need to download plugin" sign...so ? [02:39] dtwrites: head over to http://firefox-tutorials.blogspot.com/2010/05/flash-optimization.html and ensure you do not have conflicting plugins (I do it the manual way, so expect "Not found" errors as you remove everything [02:40] I think I've figured out I have no "in-use" plugins. Thanks for the connection. [02:43] that set of instructions will clear everything down and give you a 'clean' flash environment, if you are still having problems, pop over to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1193567 as lovinglinux keeps a close eye on things and is an all round 'good guy' [02:44] (even if he's a zylon) [02:44] lol, thanks phillwl [02:48] hi [02:49] for some reason since i upgraded to the new ubuntu my sound is much lower i can barely hear it at full volume... [02:49] methods: in Terminal, type "alsamixer"... in there, there should be a slider called "PCM". See if that's down any lower than 84. [02:49] methods: check your sound settings for defaults [02:50] yea i tried that [02:50] methods: Which... oh god.... which method? *snrk* [02:50] acerimmer_: defaults ? i went into pulse audio control and pushed all the volumens up... even the output device [02:50] i tried both [02:50] methods: exactly what i was thinking [02:50] this is very strange for me [02:51] i can't really seem to see any other place that i could set it higher [02:51] methods: and match your output to your config? i.e. stereo not 5.1 if that's what you have [02:51] hm [02:51] where? [02:51] System > Preferences > Sound [02:51] >output [02:51] i have it set to analog speakers [02:52] it's a usb headset [02:52] Is the right card selected? [02:52] h [02:52] what is the profile ? [02:52] profile is set to analog stereo output [02:53] sup punks [02:53] methods: also see >applications [02:53] yea they are all set up [02:53] I am using a live cd to try to move my home file to a usb storage device, it tells me I dont have permission, is there a simple way to get this done? I need to save my home in order to do a reinstall ubuntu and yes I will be creating a seperate home partition this time:) [02:53] i clicked every possible button [02:53] methods: Is there not an option to -- Hi ZachK_ -- an option to select which card to configure? [02:53] yea i picked the right one [02:53] hey ches [02:54] edlik: open Terminal, navigate to your home dir, type "gksudo nautilus ." You'll have permission. [02:54] edlik: include the leriod. [02:54] period* [02:54] ensure that under hardware that you do not have the modem selected, as that can also play havock with sound [02:54] yea i dont even see modem anywhere [02:56] Chesamo: awesome, thanks [02:56] Chesamo: I'm not in ubuntu atm, but the hardware drivers are in the Systems --> admin part? [02:56] yea nothing works [02:56] it use to be way louder [02:56] phillw1: jockey-gtk? Yes, it's in System > Administration [02:57] hm it use to say unamplified [02:57] now it's better [02:57] perhaps messing around in alsamixer allowed me to do that [02:57] it's still not super loud but it's better [03:02] Chesamo: I have obtained root premissions but nautilus now only shows the files on the live cd, is there a way to access my original "home" folder? [03:03] Is your hard drive mounted onto the LiveCD? [03:03] thanks [03:04] I can access it from "places" [03:04] edlik: Access it there, because that will make it mount. [03:09] edlik: Then, note where it's mounted (probably /media/something) and open Terminal. type "cd /media//home//" to get to the hard drive. [03:09] edlik: then type "gksudo nautilus ." (including the period) and it'll launch a file browser there. [03:47] how big of a partition do you guys recommend for ubuntu with a separate /home partition [03:47] Buuntu: 3/4ths [03:47] Chesamo, ths? [03:48] Buuntu: Three-quarters of the drive [03:48] Chesamo, oh lol, nvm [03:48] Chesamo, the /home partition is separate though... [03:48] Buuntu: Yes, I'm aware. "drive" != "partition" [03:49] Buuntu: The drive is the whole thing. A partition is just one "slice". [03:49] Chesamo, I know, but you're saying 3/4 of the whole drive just for everything but /home??? [03:49] Buuntu: My / partition is ~20GB, and my /home partition is ~80GB. [03:50] Can someone confirm that's standard practice? I think it is, but I'm not too sure. [03:50] Chesamo: well that should be enough for the OS. Guess you can do what you like with the rest. [03:50] "Standard Practice" is NOT to make a dedicated /home. You're ahead of the curve already. [03:50] :) [03:51] heh. You know what I meant. [03:51] :P [03:51] Chesamo, I'll go with 15 or 20 for that partition I think. 3/4 of the drive for me would be over 200GBs :P. I also have 2 OSs and am planning on installing other linux distros [03:51] Buuntu: Well I mean 3/4 of what space you're reserving for Ubuntu. [03:52] 80 gig is a lot. Unless your loading up heaps of vids or music, I would think you'll be filling that space for some time to come. [03:53] acerimmer_: Transmission gets more usage than Firefox on my laptop :P [03:53] Chesamo: i understand. Well, hdd's are cheap... [03:54] also, will I run into problems if I use the same /home for more than one distro? [03:55] Buuntu: Not in theory, but the configs are stored there. [03:55] Buuntu: Keep that in mind. [03:56] Buuntu: never done it, but it sounds reasonable. google fu for multi-distro managment === ZachK_1 is now known as ZachK_ === bgs100 is now known as bgs000 === x[x] is now known as _x[x] [08:22] _x[x]: hello [08:22] ZachK_: morning to you [08:22] ah hey hobgoblin [08:22] how are you ? [08:23] hobgoblin: got any idea why my ipod touch won't connect to any internet functions? The Wifi IP that's being assigned to it starts with 169 which apparently isn't good... [08:23] and i'm good btw [08:23] thanks for asking [08:24] ZachK_: sorry - I am anti iAnything and hence never buy nor have to deal with any of their iFailings :( [08:24] k [08:25] ZachK_: I'm oold fashioned I use a phone to talk to people and computers for internet :) you youngsters :D [08:25] it's not a phone either. [08:25] or possibly just old ;) [08:25] * ZachK_ is a bit old fashioned as well [08:25] no I know - that is my point lol === ZachK_1 is now known as ZachK_ [10:35] hello, i would like to auto mount my ext3 partition on logon (just like the system drive does) [10:35] hello snc [10:36] you will need to add it to your fstab [10:36] manualy edit fstab with a text editor [10:37] i have done that before :) and after failing i had to format the drive again [10:37] (i dont get fstab ... sorry :)) ) [10:38] :) [10:39] get the uuid of the partition using the command: sudo blkid [10:39] snc: in the Terminal paste the command taht duanedesign gave you [10:40] yes, done [10:42] snc: also make a copy of your fstab: sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bak [10:42] snc: that way if things get screwy you can run the command : mv /etc/fstab.bak /etc/fstab [10:42] to restore your original file [10:44] mhm [10:45] decide on a mount point. like /media/data [10:46] sudo mkdir /media/data [10:47] then add an entry to the bottom of your fstab like: [10:47] done... [10:47] UUID=3f8c5321-7181-40b3-a867-9c04a6cd5f2f /media/data ext3 defaults 0 0 [10:48] of course using your UUID :) [10:48] mhm [10:48] is it the same with ext4? (i guess not, its still good to ask) [10:51] oh and fstab looks scrambled (different spacings between entries) that slightly makes me "not want" to edit such system scripts ... is that (different spacing) normal? [10:56] snc: yes the spacing is fine [10:56] as long as there is a space between columns [10:58] mhm .. [10:58] is there anything else i should do? [10:59] snc: i think that is it [10:59] ok :) thanks duanedesign & zachk [11:29] hello again :) [11:30] i managed to automount my second drive now [11:31] now i would like to link it to its previously default location like "/media/Home" ... currently it is in "/dev/hda1" and none of the applications work anymore .. [12:10] anyone know how to fix the flickering Ubuntu does when you open certain programs or log in with the ATI 4650 video card? [12:27] hello paulchain [12:33] hi [12:57] paulchain: not had much to do with ATI cards but do you have the driver installed from hradware drivers in the sys admin menu? Driver downloaded and installed from ATI? Compiz turned on or off? [13:03] compiz is on idk how to turn it off :P [13:05] System - Preference - Appearances - Visual Effects - None [13:07] yeah then i have disabled it and the flickering still continues its like big black lines about 1-2 inches thick across the screen they flicker for a few min then go away [13:08] and the other questions I asked? [13:49] Anyone having experience with installing 10.04 on an Asus M3A78-EM in a RAID-setup? Ubuntu is unable to create the partitions on the RAID-disks. Is it possible that there is no default support for RAID on this motherboard?? [14:23] hey guys [14:26] hi [14:29] whatsup [14:29] be back in a sec [16:19] I intend to install a computer running ubuntu in my bar so that patrons can use it as a public access terminal. I want to disable the icon in the panel that allows them to disconnect from the network - how do I do that? There is no remove when I right click on it I of course get the connection info [16:28] is this room alive? [16:28] nhandler: hey [16:28] i would just lock that down [16:28] permission wise [16:29] BUT you can just remove the notification area from the panel i suppose [16:30] http://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/add-restrictions-to-your-ubuntu-system-with-lockdown-editor-pessulus/ === bgs000 is now known as bgs100 [16:30] thanks - and how do I lock it down or - better still remove it from the panel - this is really the question [16:30] pessulus is handy [16:31] actually - ignore my last question till I look at the URL you just gave me [16:31] thanks [16:31] you just right click on the whole thing on the panel to remove it [16:31] yeah [16:31] i used pessulus to do something kinda like what your doing [16:31] MagicJ: ALSO there is the 'guest' account [16:32] you might want to take advantage of that [16:32] where in theory, it doesnt matter what the user changes [16:32] you just restart the box, and its back to normal [16:32] * holstein gotta run [16:32] good luck :) [17:10] holstein: Hi [18:05] I want to prevent users from clicking on the network icon and then disconnecting from the network. How do I do this? I can not seem to remove it from the panel since when I right-click it - this activates it [18:10] You can uninstall the network manager applet [18:30] MagicJ : or try this http://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/add-restrictions-to-your-ubuntu-system-with-lockdown-editor-pessulus/ [18:47] hey guys - sorry - did not see the response [18:48] I really don't want to uninstall the applet if I can avoid it because it would be nice for the other users. But lets assume I do agree to do that,. How would I uninstall it [18:48] and wise crypt - ty - I am reading that site now [18:49] I actually just installed pessus - doesn't give me the option I need here - but thanks [19:00] MagicJ, why not just remove nm-applet for a while by killing the process nm-applet. When you need it back, just press Alt-F2 and run nm-applet [19:01] ah - now I like that - let me try it - brb [19:01] MagicJ, it just removes the icon, the connection persists. I tried that [19:15] hello nhandler :) [19:15] MagicJ: forgive me, I'm new here, but it seems to me like the built in Guest session does just what you're asking for. When I switch to that account my networking icon in the panel disappears. [19:16] * holstein was off at the local LUG meeting [19:16] I must be missing something [19:16] a very well attended DD presentation [19:16] MagicJ: did you try that guest account? [19:17] that might be just what you need for a public machine [19:17] and its easy [19:17] and buzzard ^^ says the net applet is not available to guests [19:19] I don't like the guest account much and it still has that icon there. Sorry, phone rang, about to test the kill idea [19:26] well [19:26] so much for killing the applet - it kills the connection [19:29] MagicJ: let me link you somewhere [19:29] http://www.firestormcafe.com/ [19:29] this is a local coffee shop [19:29] local to me [19:30] the guy that set up the pubil terminals is a friend [19:30] hes got them on timed logins [19:30] and a custom locked down launcher [19:30] im sure he would share his experiences if you can get him via email [19:31] I will ty [19:31] what is his name [19:31] im sure there is a link on the site [19:31] and its name is scott [19:31] you can tell him holstein from IRC suggested you conteact him [19:32] hes busy, but im sure he'll share time permitting [19:32] its a great set-up [19:32] and quite bullet-proof [19:33] he did the setup so when the machines reboot, a lot of important system files get rewritten [19:33] SO in the case of an error, or emergency [19:33] the other staff just restart the boxes [19:34] these are jaunty boxes, and AFAIK they've been running great since install [19:50] is there a gui for creating a custom kernel [19:51] no [19:51] mininessie: the kernel's written in (I asume) C, you can't graphically customize taht [19:51] that* [19:51] wait [19:51] I think there is Chesamo [19:51] The kernel? [19:51] mininessie, I think there is a GTK menu. One second. What WM do you use? [19:51] Chesamo, yeah [19:51] !chesamo [19:51] Factoid 'chesamo' not found [19:52] hmmm [19:52] paultag...... are you sure? <_< [19:52] Chesamo, 90% [19:52] paultag, WM? [19:52] mininessie, window manager, GNOME, KDE, Flux? [19:52] Oookay, I'm officially too dumb to figure this out. I'm trying to install stand alone flash player and I can't figure out how to make installation manager install it. [19:52] paultag, gnome [19:52] OK [19:52] try this mininessie [19:53] mininessie, make gconfig [19:53] * holstein google fail - chesamo kennel for DOGS ;) [19:53] if not, try a make xconfig [19:53] holstein funny story... [19:53] Either from the desktop or from archive manager (which will open the folder). [19:53] paultag Neither of those affect the kernel though [19:53] paultag, neither of them work [19:53] mininessie, are you compiling from scratch? [19:53] Chesamo, they will if he is hacking together a custom kernel [19:54] paultag, i haven't started [19:54] mininessie, you need to download linux source code, and then you can do it [19:54] mininessie, you can't configure an already compiled kernel [19:54] paultag I've never seen a way to modify the source code graphically like that. [19:54] mininessie, http://kernel.org/ [19:54] Chesamo, it's like make menuconfig [19:54] Chesamo, except not ncurses, it's gtk+ [19:55] thats when i though i was looking for the package named chesamo [19:56] holstein, what are you trying to do? [19:56] dtwrites, what do you need? [19:56] so is there a gtk to modify the source code of kernel [19:56] Brain-transplant [19:56] dtwrites, :P [19:56] I followed the directions and downloaded flashplayer stand alone on my desktop. And there it sits. [19:57] paultag: i was just interested in the idea of a custom kernel builder GUI [19:57] mininessie, sure, with an IDE, but there is a lot of source code. If you just want to set up how it runs, you can configure the kernel without rewriting it. If you want to contribute to the linux project, ask in #linux [19:57] and i misunderstood [19:57] holstein, yeah :) [19:57] 14:51 <+paultag> I think there is Chesamo [19:57] holstein, it works just like you think it does. Try checking out the kernel and doing a make gconfig [19:57] holstein, oh, sorry, I was talking with Chesamo :) [19:57] i thought that meant try 'chesamo' [19:57] You have to go into a folder and pull the stand alone out. I did that. I don't know where to go from there that works. [19:57] lol [19:57] paultag, that and if i can turn off/on options [19:57] dtwrites, are you trying to get flash in Firefox? [19:58] mininessie, yeah :) [19:58] Yes [19:58] mininessie, you don't need to edit source [19:58] dtwrites, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree [19:58] Thanks, off to try it. [19:58] paultag, what do i need to do want to do with the kernel [19:58] dtwrites, sure thing. Don't forget to restart firefox [19:59] mininessie, what are you trying to do to the kernel? Change stock parameters? [20:00] mininessie, wget http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.34.tar.bz2 [20:00] mininessie, tar -xvf linux* [20:00] paultag, change like if it supports sound from realtek on version whatever but not version whatever i'd want to enbale that version that is not supported [20:00] mininessie, cd linux-2.6* [20:00] mininessie, make gconfig [20:00] mininessie, that will get you started. Let me find you a walkthrough [20:01] mininessie, this will do -- http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/compiling-linux-kernel-26.html [20:01] mininessie, but feel free to use make gconfig and not make menuconfig [20:01] mininessie, make menuconfig is a command like text based menu, and gconfig is like an application [20:09] Boohyeah. Quiet is good. [20:14] :D === tenach_ is now known as tenach [20:21] paultag: what do i type in after i got the kernel [20:22] mininessie, read through that guide I sent you [20:22] mininessie, just untar it [20:22] paultag: okay i did that [20:22] mininessie, cd into the directory [20:22] mininessie, and make gconfig [20:23] paultag: make gconfig didn't work [20:23] mininessie, try make xconfig [20:23] tried that too [20:23] mininessie, make menuconfig [20:23] failed too [20:23] mininessie, did you no cd into the directory? [20:24] paultag: ? [20:24] mininessie, did you no cd into the directory? [20:24] paultag: no cd ? [20:24] mininessie, not * [20:24] huh [20:24] mininessie, cd into the directory [20:24] mininessie, you can't run a make if you are not in the same dir as the Makefile [20:25] mininessie, slow down, and follow every line. They are not in there for fun, each step is critical [20:25] paultag: where does it untar at [20:25] mininessie, you tell me :/ [20:25] mininessie, what commands did you run? [20:26] paultag: hold on a sex [20:26] wa wa wee wa [20:26] sec not sex [20:30] paultag: it still doesn't work [20:30] mininessie, what commands did you run? [20:31] mininessie, slow down, let's go through this slowly [20:31] mininessie, this is not easy, and not meant for anyone who does not know what a virtual void struct is [20:31] wait, that's not even a thing [20:31] a virtual void private method [20:32] paultag: i ran wget then untared it then cd it then ran make menuconfig make xconfig make gconfig [20:32] mininessie, can you please pastebin exactly what you did [20:33] mininessie, vauge stuff does not do it [20:33] !pastebin > mininessie [20:33] mininessie, please see my private message [20:33] well that defeats the purpose [20:35] paultag: http://paste.ubuntu.com/445245/ i'll get you the rest in a minute [20:36] that's not what I need mininessie [20:36] mininessie, I need the _commands_ you ran [20:36] paultag: wget http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.34.tar.bz2 [20:37] paultag: then i ran tar -xf linux-2.6.34.tar.bz2 [20:37] mininessie, what next [20:37] OK [20:37] mininessie, then what [20:38] paultag: then i ran make gconfig [20:38] mininessie, I said to cd in [20:38] mininessie, cd linux-2.6.34 [20:38] mininessie, then run your make. [20:39] mininessie, you should follow the guide I gave you [20:39] paultag: i did line for line [20:40] apparently not :) [20:42] paultag: hold on getting kernel again [20:55] I'm back! "sudo apt-get install etc, etc." didn't work. Says... can't find flashplug... so forth. [20:56] Stupid plug in is sitting on my desktop. [20:57] heyya dtwrites [20:57] Hey paultag. [20:57] stno, flashplugin-nonfree [20:57] erm dtwrites * [20:58] dtwrites, what's the output of lsb_release -a ? [20:58]