[00:02] <stlsaint> josefrichter__: do you have a make file in that directory
[01:00] <pdsmedia> does anyone have a fix for this error showing while running the update manager in ubuntu 9.10:
[01:00] <pdsmedia> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 5A9A06AEF9CB8DB0
[01:04] <pdsmedia> no one is sending a reply so I guess not
[01:08] <iceflatline> Did you do a search on Google. It appears the problem (and the fix) are quite common.
[01:12] <pdsmedia> I'll try that again... tried before and just saw the problem with no real solutions
[01:19] <pdsmedia> I looked at the solution again. they involve running scripts from anonymous people.  don't to take a chance of destroying the OS. it would help if you know of a trusted source
[01:22] <pdsmedia> does this look like a viable fix:
[01:22] <pdsmedia> http://www.webupd8.org/2009/06/automatically-import-launchpad-ppa-keys.html
[01:26] <pdsmedia> that one has complains if you see comments
[01:31] <pdsmedia> then you find other scripts that are supposed fixed that end out giving away you root directory password
[01:47] <geirha> i got that for the vbox ppa. oracle changed the key on it after taking over sun
[01:48] <iceflatline> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+question/59304
[01:49] <geirha> just went back to the site and copy/pasted the wget|apt-key line again
[01:52] <phillw1> iceflatline: take a look over at http://swiss.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1221323 for a trusted source
[01:54] <phillw1> oops, you can actually use http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1221323 that was the swiss mirror of the main ubuntu forum
[01:55] <pdsmedia> thanks
[01:56] <iceflatline> phillwl: thanks.
[01:57] <pdsmedia> that's a far simpler fix that what I saw on the searched sites
[01:58] <phillw1> pdsmedia: there's one nice thing about ubuntu (and linux in general), you're very rarely the first person to have had the problem :-)
[01:58] <iceflatline> amen
[01:59] <phillw1> when you 'google' put +ubuntu at the start of it (the + is important, and no space between it and ubuntu)
[02:00] <pdsmedia> I'm aware of that but there are a lot of bogus fixes out there... maybe MS hackers trying to shut down Ubuntu installs
[02:02] <phillw1> pdsmedia: when you land on the ubuntu forums, you're pretty safe. If the thread has a few people discussing, you're even more safe, if the thread has ubuntu members / admins / QA people / LocO team members, then you are very safe. Remember, if you are at all unsure - ASK :-)
[02:02] <pdsmedia> good advice. thanks
[02:03] <phillw1> pdsmedia: http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=57 will take you back to ubuntu forum, but explain it a bit more in depth
[02:05] <linux_is_my_hero> good evening :-)
[02:05] <linux_is_my_hero> hows everyone doing tonight?
[02:05] <acerimmer_> hey all.
[02:05] <pdsmedia> thanks phillwl
[02:05] <mikubuntu> hola, wasssup in here tonite
[02:06] <pedro3005> evening
[02:06] <linux_is_my_hero> acerimmer_: u got any experience with sound issues? i have a bug where instead of having the speaker with sound waves in my panel, i have a hollow speaker with dotted lines.
[02:07] <acerimmer_> linux_is_my_hero: hollowspeaker?  it's muted?
[02:07] <linux_is_my_hero> acerimmer_: no, its not muted.
[02:08] <acerimmer_> linux_is_my_hero: what distro?  and have you changed any appearance configs?
[02:08] <linux_is_my_hero> 10.04 lucid...and i have stock appearance settings.
[02:09] <acerimmer_> linux_is_my_hero: that is weird.  I have a script that will reset all gnome panels back to default.  But if you run it, you've obviously got to rebuild the panels...
[02:11] <mikubuntu> acerimmer, but this is not really not designated as an 'installation' channel either
[02:12] <acerimmer_> mikubuntu: i tried.  sounds like a brainstorm suggestion if not a channel mod suggestion
[02:13] <mikubuntu> ya, i think so
[02:14] <linux_is_my_hero> acerimmer_: im gunna check the alsamixer at the tty to see if its the panel or actually the drivers, because im not getting any sound either.
[02:14] <acerimmer_> ok - following this one
[02:14] <mikubuntu> it was very frustrating getting up and running for me, and i didn't know ANYTHING ... when i help my friends with installations i walk them hand in hand thru the process
[02:15] <acerimmer_> mikubuntu: well that's better than my method...
[02:15] <mikubuntu> which is?
[02:15] <acerimmer_> trashed xp/win7 repeatedly, tried wubi then manned up to dual.
[02:15] <acerimmer_> THEN decided I HAD to have hackintosh with all 3 OS's
[02:16] <mikubuntu> i hate ms so much i'd never dual
[02:16] <linux_is_my_hero> yeah it appears alsamixer has been uninstalled because i cant run it from the tty.
[02:16] <mikubuntu> gotta go do a cab ride, see ya guys
[02:16] <acerimmer_> linux_is_my_hero: strange indeed
[02:18] <linux_is_my_hero> acerimmer_: and i cant install alsamixer either.
[02:18] <linux_is_my_hero> i have duty tomorrow and im watching a dvd...oh well, thanks for your help.
[02:18] <linux_is_my_hero> goodnight.
[02:18] <acerimmer_> cya
[02:21] <phillw1> pedro3005: either I've gone deaf, or it has quietened down ;-)
[02:22] <pedro3005> phillw1, indeed :) and you, my friend, should be asleep!
[02:22] <pedro3005> :P
[02:23] <phillw1> I've been doing some lubuntu stuff & am still trying to get my baby forum back to as it should be
[02:24] <pedro3005> phillw1, it has grown up now :P
[02:25] <phillw1> it will always be 'my baby' :p
[02:29] <dtwrites> Using 9.10 and Firefox 3.5, why can I not run videos on Yahoo News (or any other apparently)?
[02:31] <dtwrites> There's no "you need to download plugin" sign...so ?
[02:39] <phillw1> dtwrites: head over to http://firefox-tutorials.blogspot.com/2010/05/flash-optimization.html and ensure you do not have conflicting plugins (I do it the manual way, so expect "Not found" errors as you remove everything
[02:40] <dtwrites> I think I've figured out I have no "in-use" plugins. Thanks for the connection.
[02:43] <phillw1> that set of instructions will clear everything down and give you a 'clean' flash environment, if you are still having problems, pop over to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1193567 as lovinglinux  keeps a close eye on things and is an all round 'good guy'
[02:44] <phillw1> (even if he's a zylon)
[02:44] <dtwrites> lol, thanks phillwl
[02:48] <methods> hi
[02:49] <methods> for some reason since i upgraded to the new ubuntu my sound is much lower i can barely hear it at full volume...
[02:49] <Chesamo> methods: in Terminal, type "alsamixer"... in there, there should be a slider called "PCM". See if that's down any lower than 84.
[02:49] <acerimmer_> methods: check your sound settings for defaults
[02:50] <methods> yea i tried that
[02:50] <Chesamo> methods: Which... oh god.... which method? *snrk*
[02:50] <methods> acerimmer_: defaults ? i went into pulse audio control and pushed all the volumens up... even the output device
[02:50] <methods> i tried both
[02:50] <acerimmer_> methods: exactly what i was thinking
[02:50] <methods> this is very strange for me
[02:51] <methods> i can't really seem to see any other place that i could set it higher
[02:51] <acerimmer_> methods:  and match your output to your config?  i.e. stereo  not 5.1 if that's what you have
[02:51] <methods> hm
[02:51] <methods> where?
[02:51] <Chesamo> System > Preferences > Sound
[02:51] <acerimmer_> >output
[02:51] <methods> i have it set to analog speakers
[02:52] <methods> it's a usb headset
[02:52] <Chesamo> Is the right card selected?
[02:52] <methods> h
[02:52] <methods> what is the profile ?
[02:52] <methods> profile is set to analog stereo output
[02:53] <ZachK_> sup punks
[02:53] <acerimmer_> methods: also see >applications
[02:53] <methods> yea they are all set up
[02:53] <edlik>  I am using a live cd to try to move my home file to a usb storage device, it tells me I dont have permission, is there a simple way to get this done? I need to save my home in order to do a reinstall ubuntu and yes I will be creating a seperate home partition this time:)
[02:53] <methods> i clicked every possible button
[02:53] <Chesamo> methods: Is there not an option to -- Hi ZachK_ -- an option to select which card to configure?
[02:53] <methods> yea i picked the right one
[02:53] <ZachK_> hey ches
[02:54] <Chesamo> edlik: open Terminal, navigate to your home dir, type "gksudo nautilus ." You'll have permission.
[02:54] <Chesamo> edlik: include the leriod.
[02:54] <Chesamo> period*
[02:54] <phillw1> ensure that under hardware that you do not have the modem selected, as that can also play havock with sound
[02:54] <methods> yea i dont even see modem anywhere
[02:56] <edlik> Chesamo: awesome, thanks
[02:56] <phillw1> Chesamo: I'm not in ubuntu atm, but the hardware drivers are in the Systems --> admin part?
[02:56] <methods> yea nothing works
[02:56] <methods> it use to be way louder
[02:56] <Chesamo> phillw1: jockey-gtk? Yes, it's in System > Administration
[02:57] <methods> hm it use to say unamplified
[02:57] <methods> now it's better
[02:57] <methods> perhaps messing around in alsamixer allowed me to do that
[02:57] <methods> it's still not super loud but it's better
[03:02] <edlik> Chesamo: I have obtained root premissions but nautilus now only shows the files on the live cd, is there a way to access my original "home" folder?
[03:03] <Chesamo> Is your hard drive mounted onto the LiveCD?
[03:03] <methods> thanks
[03:04] <edlik> I can access it from "places"
[03:04] <Chesamo> edlik: Access it there, because that will make it mount.
[03:09] <Chesamo> edlik: Then, note where it's mounted (probably /media/something) and open Terminal. type "cd /media/<whatever>/home/<username>/" to get to the hard drive.
[03:09] <Chesamo> edlik: then type "gksudo nautilus ." (including the period) and it'll launch a file browser there.
[03:47] <Buuntu> how big of a partition do you guys recommend for ubuntu with a separate /home partition
[03:47] <Chesamo> Buuntu: 3/4ths
[03:47] <Buuntu> Chesamo, ths?
[03:48] <Chesamo> Buuntu: Three-quarters of the drive
[03:48] <Buuntu> Chesamo, oh lol, nvm
[03:48] <Buuntu> Chesamo, the /home partition is separate though...
[03:48] <Chesamo> Buuntu: Yes, I'm aware. "drive" != "partition"
[03:49] <Chesamo> Buuntu: The drive is the whole thing. A partition is just one "slice".
[03:49] <Buuntu> Chesamo, I know, but you're saying 3/4 of the whole drive just for everything but /home???
[03:49] <Chesamo> Buuntu: My / partition is ~20GB, and my /home partition is ~80GB.
[03:50] <Chesamo> Can someone confirm that's standard practice? I think it is, but I'm not too sure.
[03:50] <acerimmer_> Chesamo: well that should be enough for the OS.  Guess you can do what you like with the rest.
[03:50] <acerimmer_> "Standard Practice" is NOT to make a dedicated /home.  You're ahead of the curve already.
[03:50] <acerimmer_> :)
[03:51] <Chesamo> heh. You know what I meant.
[03:51] <Chesamo> :P
[03:51] <Buuntu> Chesamo, I'll go with 15 or 20 for that partition I think.  3/4 of the drive for me would be over 200GBs :P.  I also have 2 OSs and am planning on installing other linux distros
[03:51] <Chesamo> Buuntu: Well I mean 3/4 of what space you're reserving for Ubuntu.
[03:52] <acerimmer_> 80 gig is a lot.  Unless your loading up heaps of vids or music, I would think you'll be filling that space for some time to come.
[03:53] <Chesamo> acerimmer_: Transmission gets more usage than Firefox on my laptop :P
[03:53] <acerimmer_> Chesamo: i understand.  Well, hdd's are cheap...
[03:54] <Buuntu> also, will I run into problems if I use the same /home for more than one distro?
[03:55] <Chesamo> Buuntu: Not in theory, but the configs are stored there.
[03:55] <Chesamo> Buuntu: Keep that in mind.
[03:56] <acerimmer_> Buuntu: never done it, but it sounds reasonable.  google fu for multi-distro managment
[08:22] <ZachK_> _x[x]: hello
[08:22] <hobgoblin> ZachK_: morning to you
[08:22] <ZachK_> ah hey hobgoblin
[08:22] <hobgoblin> how are you ?
[08:23] <ZachK_> hobgoblin: got any idea why my ipod touch won't connect to any internet functions? The Wifi IP that's being assigned to it starts with 169 which apparently isn't good...
[08:23] <ZachK_> and i'm good btw
[08:23] <ZachK_> thanks for asking
[08:24] <hobgoblin> ZachK_: sorry - I am anti iAnything and hence never buy nor have to deal with any of their iFailings :(
[08:24] <ZachK_> k
[08:25] <hobgoblin> ZachK_: I'm oold fashioned I use a phone to talk to people and computers for internet :) you youngsters :D
[08:25] <ZachK_> it's not a phone either.
[08:25] <hobgoblin> or possibly just old ;)
[08:25]  * ZachK_ is a bit old fashioned as well
[08:25] <hobgoblin> no I know - that is my point lol
[10:35] <snc> hello, i would like to auto mount my ext3 partition on logon (just like the system drive does)
[10:35] <duanedesign> hello snc
[10:36] <duanedesign> you will need to add it to your fstab
[10:36] <snc> manualy edit fstab with a text editor
[10:37] <snc> i have done that before :) and after failing i had to format the drive again
[10:37] <snc> (i dont get fstab ... sorry :)) )
[10:38] <duanedesign> :)
[10:39] <duanedesign> get the uuid of the partition using the command: sudo blkid
[10:39] <ZachK_> snc: in the Terminal paste the command taht duanedesign gave you
[10:40] <snc> yes, done
[10:42] <duanedesign> snc: also make a copy of your fstab:  sudo cp /etc/fstab  /etc/fstab.bak
[10:42] <duanedesign> snc: that way if things get screwy you can run the command :  mv /etc/fstab.bak /etc/fstab
[10:42] <duanedesign> to restore your original file
[10:44] <snc> mhm
[10:45] <duanedesign> decide on a mount point. like  /media/data
[10:46] <duanedesign> sudo mkdir /media/data
[10:47] <duanedesign> then add an entry to the bottom of your fstab like:
[10:47] <snc> done...
[10:47] <duanedesign> UUID=3f8c5321-7181-40b3-a867-9c04a6cd5f2f  /media/data  ext3  defaults  0  0
[10:48] <duanedesign> of course using your UUID :)
[10:48] <snc> mhm
[10:48] <snc> is it the same with ext4? (i guess not, its still good to ask)
[10:51] <snc> oh and fstab looks scrambled (different spacings between entries) that slightly makes me "not want" to edit such system scripts ... is that (different spacing) normal?
[10:56] <duanedesign> snc: yes the spacing is fine
[10:56] <duanedesign> as long as there is a space between columns
[10:58] <snc> mhm ..
[10:58] <snc> is there anything else i should do?
[10:59] <duanedesign> snc: i think that is it
[10:59] <snc> ok :) thanks duanedesign & zachk
[11:29] <snc> hello again :)
[11:30] <snc> i managed to automount my second drive now
[11:31] <snc> now i would like to link it to its previously default location like "/media/Home" ... currently it is in "/dev/hda1" and none of the applications work anymore ..
[12:10] <paulchain> anyone know how to fix the flickering Ubuntu does when you open certain programs or log in with the ATI 4650 video card?
[12:27] <duanedesign> hello paulchain
[12:33] <paulchain> hi
[12:57] <hobgoblin> paulchain: not had much to do with ATI cards but do you have the driver installed from hradware drivers in the sys admin menu? Driver downloaded and installed from ATI? Compiz turned on or off?
[13:03] <paulchain> compiz is on idk how to turn it off :P
[13:05] <hobgoblin> System - Preference - Appearances - Visual Effects - None
[13:07] <paulchain> yeah then i have disabled it and the flickering still continues its like big black lines about 1-2 inches thick across the screen they flicker for a few min then go away
[13:08] <hobgoblin> and the other questions I asked?
[13:49] <Klojum> Anyone having experience with installing 10.04 on an Asus M3A78-EM in a RAID-setup? Ubuntu is unable to create the partitions on the RAID-disks. Is it possible that there is no default support for RAID on this motherboard??
[14:23] <Phil__> hey guys
[14:26] <hobgoblin> hi
[14:29] <Phil__> whatsup
[14:29] <Phil__> be back in a sec
[16:19] <MagicJ> I intend to install a computer running ubuntu in my bar so that patrons can use it as a public access terminal.  I want to disable the icon in the panel that allows them to disconnect from the network - how do I do that?  There is no remove when I right click on it I of course get the connection info
[16:28] <MagicJ> is this room alive?
[16:28] <holstein> nhandler: hey
[16:28] <holstein> i would just lock that down
[16:28] <holstein> permission wise
[16:29] <holstein> BUT you can just remove the notification area from the panel i suppose
[16:30] <holstein> http://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/add-restrictions-to-your-ubuntu-system-with-lockdown-editor-pessulus/
[16:30] <MagicJ> thanks - and how do I lock it down or - better still remove it from the panel - this is really the question
[16:30] <holstein> pessulus is handy
[16:31] <MagicJ> actually - ignore my last question till I look at the URL you just gave me
[16:31] <MagicJ> thanks
[16:31] <holstein> you just right click on the whole thing on the panel to remove it
[16:31] <holstein> yeah
[16:31] <holstein> i used pessulus to do something kinda like what your doing
[16:31] <holstein> MagicJ: ALSO there is the 'guest' account
[16:32] <holstein> you might want to take advantage of that
[16:32] <holstein> where in theory, it doesnt matter what the user changes
[16:32] <holstein> you just restart the box, and its back to normal
[16:32]  * holstein gotta run
[16:32] <holstein> good luck :)
[17:10] <nhandler> holstein: Hi
[18:05] <MagicJ> I want to prevent users from clicking on the network icon and then disconnecting from the network.  How do I do this?  I can not seem to remove it from the panel since when I right-click it - this activates it
[18:10] <Chesamo> You can uninstall the network manager applet
[18:30] <wise_crypt> MagicJ : or try this http://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/add-restrictions-to-your-ubuntu-system-with-lockdown-editor-pessulus/
[18:47] <MagicJ> hey guys - sorry - did not see the response
[18:48] <MagicJ> I really don't want to uninstall the applet if I can avoid it because it would be nice for the other users.  But lets assume I do agree to do that,.  How would I uninstall it
[18:48] <MagicJ> and wise crypt - ty - I am reading that site now
[18:49] <MagicJ> I actually just installed pessus - doesn't give me the option I need here - but thanks
[19:00] <shredder12> MagicJ, why not just remove nm-applet for a while by killing the process nm-applet. When you need it back, just press Alt-F2 and run nm-applet
[19:01] <MagicJ> ah - now I like that - let me try it - brb
[19:01] <shredder12> MagicJ, it just removes the icon, the connection persists. I tried that
[19:15] <holstein> hello nhandler :)
[19:15] <buzzard> MagicJ: forgive me, I'm new here, but it seems to me like the built in Guest session does just what you're asking for. When I switch to that account my networking icon in the panel disappears.
[19:16]  * holstein was off at the local LUG meeting 
[19:16] <buzzard> I must be missing something
[19:16] <holstein> a very well attended DD presentation
[19:16] <holstein> MagicJ: did you try that guest account?
[19:17] <holstein> that might be just what you need for a public machine
[19:17] <holstein> and its easy
[19:17] <holstein> and buzzard ^^ says the net applet is not available to guests
[19:19] <MagicJ> I don't like the guest account much and it still has that icon there.  Sorry, phone rang, about to test the kill idea
[19:26] <MagicJ> well
[19:26] <MagicJ> so much for killing the applet - it kills the connection
[19:29] <holstein> MagicJ: let me link you somewhere
[19:29] <holstein> http://www.firestormcafe.com/
[19:29] <holstein> this is a local coffee shop
[19:29] <holstein> local to me
[19:30] <holstein> the guy that set up the pubil terminals is a friend
[19:30] <holstein> hes got them on timed logins
[19:30] <holstein> and a custom locked down launcher
[19:30] <holstein> im sure he would share his experiences if you can get him via email
[19:31] <MagicJ> I will ty
[19:31] <MagicJ> what is his name
[19:31] <holstein> im sure there is a link on the site
[19:31] <holstein> and its name is scott
[19:31] <holstein> you can tell him holstein from IRC suggested you conteact him
[19:32] <holstein> hes busy, but im sure he'll share time permitting
[19:32] <holstein> its a great set-up
[19:32] <holstein> and quite bullet-proof
[19:33] <holstein> he did the setup so when the machines reboot, a lot of important system files get rewritten
[19:33] <holstein> SO in the case of an error, or emergency
[19:33] <holstein> the other staff just restart the boxes
[19:34] <holstein> these are jaunty boxes, and AFAIK they've been running great since install
[19:50] <mininessie> is there a gui for creating a custom kernel
[19:51] <Chesamo> no
[19:51] <Chesamo> mininessie: the kernel's written in (I asume) C, you can't graphically customize taht
[19:51] <Chesamo> that*
[19:51] <paultag> wait
[19:51] <paultag> I think there is Chesamo
[19:51] <Chesamo> The kernel?
[19:51] <paultag> mininessie, I think there is a GTK menu. One second. What WM do you use?
[19:51] <paultag> Chesamo, yeah
[19:51] <holstein> !chesamo
[19:51] <ubot2> Factoid 'chesamo' not found
[19:52] <holstein> hmmm
[19:52] <Chesamo> paultag...... are you sure? <_<
[19:52] <paultag> Chesamo, 90%
[19:52] <mininessie> paultag, WM?
[19:52] <paultag> mininessie, window manager, GNOME, KDE, Flux?
[19:52] <dtwrites> Oookay, I'm officially too dumb to figure this out. I'm trying to install stand alone flash player and I can't figure out how to make installation manager install it.
[19:52] <mininessie> paultag, gnome
[19:52] <paultag> OK
[19:52] <paultag> try this mininessie
[19:53] <paultag> mininessie, make gconfig
[19:53]  * holstein google fail - chesamo kennel for DOGS ;)
[19:53] <paultag> if not, try a make xconfig
[19:53] <Chesamo> holstein funny story...
[19:53] <dtwrites> Either from the desktop or from archive manager (which will open the folder).
[19:53] <Chesamo> paultag Neither of those affect the kernel though
[19:53] <mininessie> paultag, neither of them work
[19:53] <paultag> mininessie, are you compiling from scratch?
[19:53] <paultag> Chesamo, they will if he is hacking together a custom kernel
[19:54] <mininessie> paultag, i haven't started
[19:54] <paultag> mininessie, you need to download linux source code, and then you can do it
[19:54] <paultag> mininessie, you can't configure an already compiled kernel
[19:54] <Chesamo> paultag I've never seen a way to modify the source code graphically like that.
[19:54] <paultag> mininessie, http://kernel.org/
[19:54] <paultag> Chesamo, it's like make menuconfig
[19:54] <paultag> Chesamo, except not ncurses, it's gtk+
[19:55] <holstein> thats when i though i was looking for the package named chesamo
[19:56] <paultag> holstein, what are you trying to do?
[19:56] <paultag> dtwrites, what do you need?
[19:56] <mininessie> so is there a gtk to modify the source code of kernel
[19:56] <dtwrites> Brain-transplant
[19:56] <paultag> dtwrites, :P
[19:56] <dtwrites> I followed the directions and downloaded flashplayer stand alone on my desktop. And there it sits.
[19:57] <holstein> paultag: i was just interested in the idea of a custom kernel builder GUI
[19:57] <paultag> mininessie, sure, with an IDE, but there is a lot of source code. If you just want to set up how it runs, you can configure the kernel without rewriting it. If you want to contribute to the linux project, ask in #linux
[19:57] <holstein> and i misunderstood
[19:57] <paultag> holstein, yeah :)
[19:57] <holstein> 14:51 <+paultag> I think there is Chesamo
[19:57] <paultag> holstein, it works just like you think it does. Try checking out the kernel and doing a make gconfig
[19:57] <paultag> holstein, oh, sorry, I was talking with Chesamo :)
[19:57] <holstein> i thought that meant try 'chesamo'
[19:57] <dtwrites> You have to go into a folder and pull the stand alone out. I did that. I don't know where to go from there that works.
[19:57] <holstein> lol
[19:57] <mininessie> paultag, that and if i can turn off/on options
[19:57] <paultag> dtwrites, are you trying to get flash in Firefox?
[19:58] <paultag> mininessie, yeah :)
[19:58] <dtwrites> Yes
[19:58] <paultag> mininessie, you don't need to edit source
[19:58] <paultag> dtwrites, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[19:58] <dtwrites> Thanks, off to try it.
[19:58] <mininessie> paultag, what do i need to do want to do with the kernel
[19:58] <paultag> dtwrites, sure thing. Don't forget to restart firefox
[19:59] <paultag> mininessie, what are you trying to do to the kernel? Change stock parameters?
[20:00] <paultag> mininessie, wget http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.34.tar.bz2
[20:00] <paultag> mininessie, tar -xvf linux*
[20:00] <mininessie> paultag, change like if it supports sound from realtek on version whatever but not version whatever i'd want to enbale that version that is not supported
[20:00] <paultag> mininessie, cd linux-2.6*
[20:00] <paultag> mininessie, make gconfig
[20:00] <paultag> mininessie, that will get you started. Let me find you a walkthrough
[20:01] <paultag> mininessie, this will do -- http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/compiling-linux-kernel-26.html
[20:01] <paultag> mininessie, but feel free to use make gconfig and not make menuconfig
[20:01] <paultag> mininessie, make menuconfig is a command like text based menu, and gconfig is like an application
[20:09] <paultag> Boohyeah. Quiet is good.
[20:14] <tenach> :D
[20:21] <mininessie> paultag: what do i type in after i got the kernel
[20:22] <paultag> mininessie, read through that guide I sent you
[20:22] <paultag> mininessie, just untar it
[20:22] <mininessie> paultag: okay i did that
[20:22] <paultag> mininessie, cd into the directory
[20:22] <paultag> mininessie, and make gconfig
[20:23] <mininessie> paultag: make gconfig didn't work
[20:23] <paultag> mininessie, try make xconfig
[20:23] <mininessie> tried that too
[20:23] <paultag> mininessie, make menuconfig
[20:23] <mininessie> failed too
[20:23] <paultag> mininessie, did you no cd into the directory?
[20:24] <mininessie> paultag: ?
[20:24] <paultag> mininessie, did you no cd into the directory?
[20:24] <mininessie> paultag: no cd ?
[20:24] <paultag> mininessie, not *
[20:24] <mininessie> huh
[20:24] <paultag> mininessie, cd into the directory
[20:24] <paultag> mininessie, you can't run a make if you are not in the same dir as the Makefile
[20:25] <paultag> mininessie, slow down, and follow every line. They are not in there for fun, each step is critical
[20:25] <mininessie> paultag: where does it untar at
[20:25] <paultag> mininessie, you tell me :/
[20:25] <paultag> mininessie, what commands did you run?
[20:26] <mininessie> paultag: hold on a sex
[20:26] <paultag> wa wa wee wa
[20:26] <mininessie> sec not sex
[20:30] <mininessie> paultag: it still doesn't work
[20:30] <paultag> mininessie, what commands did you run?
[20:31] <paultag> mininessie, slow down, let's go through this slowly
[20:31] <paultag> mininessie, this is not easy, and not meant for anyone who does not know what a virtual void struct is
[20:31] <paultag> wait, that's not even a thing
[20:31] <paultag> a virtual void private method
[20:32] <mininessie> paultag: i ran wget then untared it then cd it then ran make menuconfig make xconfig make gconfig
[20:32] <paultag> mininessie, can you please pastebin exactly what you did
[20:33] <paultag> mininessie, vauge stuff does not do it
[20:33] <paultag> !pastebin > mininessie
[20:33] <ubot2> mininessie, please see my private message
[20:33] <paultag> well that defeats the purpose
[20:35] <mininessie> paultag: http://paste.ubuntu.com/445245/ i'll get you the rest in a minute
[20:36] <paultag> that's not what I need mininessie
[20:36] <paultag> mininessie, I need the _commands_ you ran
[20:36] <mininessie> paultag: wget http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.34.tar.bz2
[20:37] <mininessie> paultag: then i ran  tar -xf linux-2.6.34.tar.bz2
[20:37] <paultag> mininessie, what next
[20:37] <paultag> OK
[20:37] <paultag> mininessie, then what
[20:38] <mininessie> paultag: then i ran make gconfig
[20:38] <paultag> mininessie, I said to cd in
[20:38] <paultag> mininessie, cd linux-2.6.34
[20:38] <paultag> mininessie, then run your make.
[20:39] <paultag> mininessie, you should follow the guide I gave you
[20:39] <mininessie> paultag: i did line for line
[20:40] <paultag> apparently not :)
[20:42] <mininessie> paultag: hold on getting kernel again
[20:55] <dtwrites> I'm back! "sudo apt-get install etc, etc." didn't work. Says... can't find flashplug... so forth.
[20:56] <dtwrites> Stupid plug in is sitting on my desktop.
[20:57] <paultag> heyya dtwrites
[20:57] <dtwrites> Hey paultag.
[20:57] <paultag> stno, flashplugin-nonfree
[20:57] <paultag> erm dtwrites *
[20:58] <paultag> dtwrites, what's the output of lsb_release -a ?
[20:58] <mininessie> paultag: when i untar it i got an error
[20:59] <dtwrites> Paultag, you might as well be speaking greek. where do I find lsb_release -a? In terminal?
[20:59] <paultag> dtwrites, yeah
[20:59] <dtwrites> A minute
[20:59] <mininessie> paultag: it gave me no such file or directory on many many files
[21:00] <paultag> dtwrites, run this for me ( quickly ) after you run that --
[21:00] <paultag> if [ "c$(cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep multiverse)" != "x" ]; then echo "OK"; else echo "No"; fi;
[21:00] <mininessie> paultag: help me
[21:00] <dtwrites> No LSB modules are available.
[21:00] <dtwrites> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[21:00] <dtwrites> Description:	Ubuntu 9.10
[21:00] <dtwrites> Release:	9.10
[21:00] <dtwrites> Codename:	karmic
[21:00] <dtwrites> diane@diane-desktop:~$
[21:00] <paultag> mininessie, I'm going to. Jesus christ, I'm not getting paid to help you guys. One at a time
[21:01] <paultag> OK dtwrites, and that command I gave you that I Just whipped up that looks like garbage
[21:01] <dtwrites> umhm?
[21:01] <paultag> mininessie, you are trying to do something hugely complex. dtwrites has a simple issue. Hold on.
[21:01] <paultag> dtwrites, if [ "c$(cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep multiverse)" != "x" ]; then echo "OK"; else echo "No"; fi;
[21:01] <mininessie> paultag: running that kernel thingy
[21:01] <paultag> dtwrites, is the output of that "OK" or "No"
[21:01] <dtwrites> -k
[21:03] <paultag> dtwrites, copy and paste works better then transcribing. When you do it by hand it's prone to errors
[21:03] <paultag> shit, and change that to "c" not "x" dtwrites at the end
[21:04] <dragondon> greetings all!  'm trying to stop iptables from logging evry dropped connection.  've deleted the rule that tells it to but it seems there's something else going on....
[21:04] <dtwrites> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `then' (okay)
[21:04] <paultag> mininessie, here, you can get some help while you wait in #ubuntu-kernel
[21:04] <paultag> dtwrites, remember the ;
[21:05] <paultag> dragondon, wait around, someone will get to you, I'm swamped right now :)
[21:06] <dragondon> paultag: thanks dude, have fun :)
[21:06] <paultag> dragondon, sure thing
[21:07] <paultag> dtwrites, any luck?
[21:07] <dtwrites> No yet
[21:07] <dtwrites> *not yet
[21:07] <paultag> dtwrites, what's it doing?
[21:08] <paultag> dtwrites, screw it. Can you copy and paste the text to pastebin for me? gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:08] <paultag> !pastebin | dtwrites
[21:08] <ubot2> dtwrites: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[21:08] <dtwrites> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `else'
[21:08] <paultag> dtwrites, I did not know you were writing this out by hand. Are you on a different machine then the one you are working on?
[21:08] <paultag> dtwrites, you should not transcribe, it is always better to copy and paste verbatim
[21:09] <dtwrites> No, I'm on the same machine.
[21:09] <paultag> dtwrites, copy paste! :)
[21:09] <paultag> dtwrites, shift + ctrl + v to paste in a terminal
[21:10] <dtwrites> I've got it, now to put it on tinyurl
[21:10] <paultag> wait, what?
[21:10] <paultag> dtwrites, dtwrites,
[21:10] <paultag> erm
[21:10] <paultag> dtwrites, http://paste.ubuntu.com
[21:10] <dtwrites> That's what the bot says.
[21:11] <paultag> dtwrites, you read it wring :)
[21:11] <paultag> dtwrites, For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[21:11] <dtwrites> I'm not surprised.
[21:11] <paultag> the second is for images
[21:12] <dtwrites> http://paste.ubuntu.com/445274/ <- with luck!
[21:12] <paultag> looks good dtwrites :)
[21:12] <paultag> One sec dtwrites
[21:13] <dtwrites> Not a problem, Paultag. Take your time.
[21:13] <paultag> Ahha dtwrites, you are missing multiverse
[21:13] <paultag> dtwrites, One sec, let me brew up a command for you
[21:13] <dtwrites> Is this not something I'll find on my add/remove pages program?
[21:14] <dtwrites> *packages.
[21:14] <paultag> nope dtwrites :)
[21:14] <dtwrites> I'm doomed.
[21:14] <paultag> dtwrites, this will add a whole lot of software to your system once you do an update
[21:14] <paultag> dtwrites, not if you ctrl + c, then ctrl + shift + v
[21:14] <paultag> dtwrites, I got your back
[21:15] <dtwrites> Thanks. I didn't know this was a two-day project. =)
[21:15] <paultag> Oh shit :/
[21:15] <paultag> dtwrites, it's power pc?
[21:15] <dtwrites> Yes
[21:15] <paultag> One sec dtwrites :/
[21:16] <paultag> dtwrites, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ#Flash,%20Flash%20video%20and%20Gnash
[21:16] <paultag> dtwrites, they work _ok_
[21:17] <dtwrites> Thanks. Wish me luck. ;)
[21:17] <paultag> dtwrites, it's nothing like it should be, but it "runs". You will be able to get some degree of success with these packages, but _noting_ like an x86
[21:17] <paultag> dtwrites, Good luck!!!
[21:17] <paultag> dtwrites, sudo apt-get install mozilla-plugin-gnash
[21:17] <paultag> dtwrites, give that a copy paste and restart firefox :)
[21:19] <dtwrites> It's working!!!! You're a genius!!!!
[21:19] <paultag> dtwrites, nah :P
[21:19] <paultag> dtwrites, good luck! hope it works for you :)
[21:19] <mininessie> paultag: is it my turn yet
[21:20] <paultag> mininessie, sure. What's up
[21:20] <dtwrites> Thanks, paultag. Later
[21:20] <paultag> dtwrites, cheers
[21:21] <mininessie> paultag: okay i am trying to do the custom kernel thing and when i tar -xjvf linux-2.6.34.tar.bz2 -C /usr/src it says there is not such file or directory
[21:21] <paultag> dtwrites, sudo mkdir /usr/src && sudo chown -R `whoami`:`whoami`
[21:22] <paultag> shit not you dtwrites
[21:22] <paultag> mininessie, ^
[21:22] <dtwrites> Good.
[21:22] <paultag> dtwrites, you're all set :P
[21:23] <mininessie> paultag: that doesn't work
[21:23] <paultag> mininessie, what's the error
[21:23] <paultag> mininessie, you have to help me and give me error messages. I can't ESP the screen from here
[21:23] <mininessie> paultag: mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/src': File exists
[21:23] <paultag> well shit, then tar is lying
[21:23] <paultag> mininessie, run the second half
[21:23] <paultag> mininessie, the chown
[21:24] <mininessie> paultag: Try `chown --help' for more information.
[21:24] <paultag> mininessie, sudo chown -R `whoami`:`whoami`
[21:24] <paultag> Oh doh
[21:24] <paultag> mininessie, sudo chown -R /usr/src `whoami`:`whoami`
[21:25] <mininessie> paultag: chown: invalid user: `/usr/src'
[21:25] <paultag> mininessie, sudo chown -R `whoami`:`whoami` /usr/src
[21:26] <mininessie> paultag: okay that gave me no error
[21:26] <paultag> mininessie, re run your tar command
[21:27] <mininessie> okay it worked
[21:27] <paultag> mininessie, continue with your guide now
[21:28] <mininessie> paultag: okay i did but it doesn't work
[21:28] <paultag> mininessie, you can't be vague
[21:28] <paultag> mininessie, if you are then I will be, it's all I can do
[21:28] <paultag> mininessie, if you want exact help, give me exact details
[21:28] <mininessie> paultag: okay i ran cd /usr/src
[21:29] <mininessie> paultag: then i ran make gconfig make xconfig make menuconfig
[21:29] <paultag> no
[21:29] <paultag> only one of those mininessie
[21:29] <mininessie> paultag: i did then one at a time
[21:29] <paultag> mininessie, what' the output of pwd?
[21:30] <mininessie> paultag: make: *** No rule to make target `gconfig'.  Stop.
[21:30] <paultag> mininessie, ls | grep Make
[21:30] <mininessie> paultag: okay then what
[21:30] <paultag> mininessie, oh then do something
[21:31] <paultag> mininessie, I need command output!!
[21:31] <paultag> mininessie, I still am waiting on pwd and the ls | grep Make
[21:31] <mininessie> paultag: pwd is /usr/src
[21:31] <paultag> mininessie, cd linux*
[21:31] <paultag> mininessie, make gconfig
[21:32] <mininessie> paultag:   HOSTCC  scripts/basic/fixdep   HOSTCC  scripts/basic/docproc   HOSTCC  scripts/basic/hash * * Unable to find the GTK+ installation. Please make sure that * the GTK+ 2.0 development package is correctly installed... * You need gtk+-2.0, glib-2.0 and libglade-2.0. *   HOSTCC  scripts/kconfig/conf.o scripts/kconfig/conf.c: In function ‘conf_askvalue’: scripts/kconfig/conf.c:105: warning: ignoring return va
[21:32] <paultag> w00t
[21:32] <paultag> one sec mininessie
[21:32] <mininessie> paultag: okay
[21:33] <paultag> mininessie, sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev libncurses-dev
[21:33] <paultag> two more after that mininessie
[21:33] <mininessie> paultag: okay what do i when that is installed
[21:34] <paultag> mininessie, sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-dev libglade2-dev
[21:34] <paultag> mininessie, then try make gconfig
[21:34] <mininessie> paultag: just a sec
[21:37] <mininessie> paultag: okay it worked a new box showed up
[21:37] <paultag> mininessie, fire away and follow the rest of that guide.
[21:37] <mininessie> paultag: i just go to make sure i know what i am doing
[21:38] <paultag> mininessie, I don't know what I am doing after this point -- if you need help on the kernel, try #ubuntu-kernel
[23:05] <malev_> how can I use ls to search for a file in a directories structure?
[23:06] <paultag> malev_, do you want to as an exersise or just find a file?
[23:07] <malev_> just to find a file
[23:07] <paultag> malev_, find .
[23:10] <malev_> it's not working. for example I need ot find test_helper.rb
[23:10] <malev_> find . test_helper.rb
[23:10] <malev_> and it list me all the files in the . structure
[23:10] <paultag> malev_, | grep
[23:10] <malev_> cool
[23:10] <paultag> malev_, find . | grep test_helper.rb
[23:12] <glorious> How can I change that ugly, ugly lockout screen to something nicer looking?
[23:13] <paultag> what lockout screen glorious?
[23:14] <glorious> That's the one thing I feel embarrased about letting preUbuntu folks see.
[23:14] <paultag> well OK then
[23:14] <paultag> glorious, what lockout screen
[23:15] <glorious> um when you walk away from the computer and come back and it asks for your password.  A book I read said it was called the lockout screen
[23:15] <paultag> glorious, press ctrl + alt + l
[23:15] <paultag> glorious, that screen?
[23:15] <drubin> glorious: He wants a themed lock screen
[23:15] <drubin> blah paultag ^
[23:16] <drubin> and yes that screen
[23:16] <paultag> drubin, you can help him, I don't know how to do it :)
[23:16] <glorious> yes, that's the one
[23:16] <drubin> I don't know either
[23:16] <drubin> all I know is that running gnome-screensaver-command --lock puts it there
[23:16] <paultag> what's so ugly about it?
[23:17] <paultag> perhaps we can get a patch in place
[23:17] <drubin> glorious: Did you google at all for this?
[23:17] <paultag> I don't see an issue with it, I actually like it glorious
[23:17] <drubin> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1052367
[23:17] <drubin> paultag: it is just a personal preference.
[23:17] <paultag> I know drubin
[23:17] <glorious> its so bare plain.  I switched to Ubuntu studio and it looks a little nicer now, but still
[23:18] <drubin> wow lag is killing me, I hope that link is helpfull it was the first one in google and was marked "solved" but it isn't loading for me
[23:18] <paultag> glorious, what do you want it to look like?
[23:18] <drubin> glorious: looks like you are going to have to download  another theme for it
[23:19]  * paultag thinks it's GTK based
[23:19] <paultag> you should be able to hack it
[23:20] <glorious> drubin, Yes, that looks like it might help.
[23:20] <drubin> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Hacker+logo+lock+scren?content=89030
[23:21] <glorious> I wanted to learn how to change it 'cuz there are some folks that I want to introduce Ubuntu two, but I am hoping to change that part so it won't be so plain.
[23:21] <glorious> and embarrasing to me
[23:21] <drubin> :)
[23:21] <drubin> I wont be able to help you but  there is the source theme you should be able to download it and play with it
[23:21] <drubin> sorry can't be of more help
[23:22] <glorious> Hey that will probably help lots.  I'd googled w/o luck so thanks!
[23:23] <glorious> this is my first time on this channel.  I wanted to figure out how to get on so that I could support these potential new ubuntu folks
[23:24] <glorious> Actually is been probably 10 years since I used irc.  I think I used mirc on Win95
[23:25] <glorious> frankly I had trouble figuring out how to get here.  I finally succeeded using Konversation
[23:25] <drubin> glad we could help you
[23:27] <glorious> before briefly I tried and failed with empathy, xchat-gnome, pidgin,irssi,
[23:27] <glorious> I'm glad too.  Thank you drubin and paultag!
[23:28] <paultag> sure
[23:29] <glorious> I think Konversation is working for me because I can figure out where to go to do things with its interface.  I couldn't with the others.
[23:30] <mininessie> paultag: help i put in make modules_install make: *** No rule to make target `modules_install'.  Stop.
[23:30] <glorious> thanks again folks!
[23:30] <paultag> mininessie, what's the output of pwd
[23:30] <paultag> mininessie, _you need to be in your project dir to run make_
[23:30] <paultag> mininessie, cd /usr/src/linux*
[23:30] <mininessie> paultag: pwd
[23:31] <mininessie> paultag: i got it thanks
[23:31] <paultag> yeah
[23:36] <mininessie> paultag: i ran mkinitrd -o initrd.img-2.6.34 2.6.34 and it said mkinitrd command not found
[23:37] <paultag> mininessie, mkinitramfs
[23:42] <mininessie> paultag: how do i load into my new kernel if it does give me the grub menu option to choose what kernel version i want
[23:42] <mininessie> doesn't
[23:42] <paultag> mininessie, sudo update-grub
[23:43] <mininessie> paultag: yeah but its not the top of of the list the kernel 2.6.34 is not a top of the list
[23:43] <paultag> mininessie, dunno. I'm not a grub expert :)
[23:45] <glorious> I found out the 'screen lock' is also called the lock dialog screen (and probably other names also)
[23:46] <paultag> that's the one I know it as glorious :)
[23:48] <glorious> I see why I had a hard time learning about it -- there aren't too many custom ones offered on gnome-look.org and they go by several different names.
[23:48] <glorious> acerimmer thanks for the help on the other channel
[23:48] <acerimmer> glorious: do it worked then??
[23:49] <acerimmer> n p
[23:53] <dragondon> Greetings all,  how does one stop iptables from logging every dropped connection into the system logs.  I've deleted the rule that tells it to...