[00:00] * ubuntujenkins yey ppa update is successful now I am really going to bed this time [00:00] you say that [00:00] but then I send you a link like http://i43.tinypic.com/2e2jt5l.jpg [00:01] no really, I have to start revision in the morning [00:01] lol funny link [00:02] our latex packages can't really be any more up to date [00:02] night all [00:13] Cool, I am going to patch now :) [00:13] stupid bloody autotools === cwoollard is now known as ChrisWoollard [00:13] the "make it as easy as possible for the user, at the expense of the maintainer" policy is annoying [08:59] Since I upgraded to the latest ppa that UbuntuJenkins created yesterday. I how get the following errors. [08:59] http://paste.ubuntu.com/444989/ [08:59] Please can you advise? [09:51] ChrisWoollard: it all works for me, are the permissons ok on the branch folder? I guess they would be as it worked before [09:53] ChrisWoollard: try make clean and then make [09:53] brb [10:03] * ubuntujenkins hopes its not the ppa its self [10:16] nisshh: you use the latex ppa right? [10:16] ubuntujenkins: yes im getting updates for it right now [10:17] 400MB's + [10:17] ubuntujenkins: why? [10:18] when you have the updates can you please run make on lucid-e1 . Everything works for me. but ChrisWoollard has a problem. I don't think its the ppa but I haven't heard back from him [10:19] ubuntujenkins: sure but because of my slow net you will have to wait atleast 45 minutes or so [10:19] thats fine I would like to know if it affects anyone else [10:26] ubuntujenkins: cool, e1 is just lp:ubuntu-manual/e1 yea? [10:26] lp:ubuntu-manual/lucid-e1 [10:27] dutchie: thanks [10:27] ubuntujenkins: also, is ChrisWoollard having trouble with a translated version or the english version? [10:28] as far as i can thell he is just using make (so the english version) [10:28] right that makes it easy [10:34] ubuntujenkins: wow, one of the largest packages is a -doc package [10:34] 193MB [10:36] hmm, proabbly didn't need to update that who reads them? [10:37] well, when i first installed the texlive package from the ppa, it needed all the rest just to work too [10:37] which is a pain [10:38] hello [10:38] i mean i do have 25GB's of bandwidth a month but it is really slow to download at this speed [10:38] ChrisWoollard: hey [10:39] hey ChrisWoollard [10:40] my permissions should be fine. nothing has changed. [10:40] I also deleted the whole branch and tried again. [10:40] yea i guessed that would be the case. [10:40] o this could not be good then [10:41] are you 64bit or 32bit? [10:41] I am running 32bit [10:41] ubuntujenkins: so am i [10:42] hmm I am 64bit. I am going to reboot again just to double check. I think there is only one package that is both 64bit and 32bit. Most are for both. [10:42] brb [10:42] I am going to try doing a reinstall of all packages just in case. [10:43] It did report that they sucessfully installed, but I was running low on disk space. But i have fixed that anow [10:43] ChrisWoollard: dont try just yet, wait for me to test out the latest ppa updates [10:43] ok. I will wait. [10:44] It was lp:ubuntu-manual/lucid-e2 that I was building [10:45] oooooo does lucid-e1 work? [10:45] I have not tried that [10:46] give me a moment [10:47] sure [10:48] lucid-e2 works for me [10:48] i *think* e2 works for me, i still havent got all these updates yet [10:50] have an answer to that in about 25 minutes or less [10:52] I get the same with lucid e1 [10:54] ouch [10:54] * ubuntujenkins is getting worried [10:55] Should I just try that re-install of the packages [10:55] just to make sure [10:55] I am just setting up a virtual machine [10:55] ChrisWoollard: not yet, wait anotherm minute [10:56] 5 minutes and i have the updates [10:57] ChrisWoollard: can you completey remove ubuntu-manual-tex package and reinstall it please . Its a dummy package [11:08] Ok. It is completely removed. [11:09] now install it again and see if that pulls in anything that could be missing [11:10] I also did an apt-get clean. to clear the cache [11:10] I wonder how long it will take to download [11:11] ChrisWoollard: a freaking long time [11:16] my virtual machine is jsut installing the packages [11:17] Mine too. [11:17] Looks like the download finished [11:17] right im compiling e2 now [11:18] then ill try e1 as well [11:20] not knowing very much C is a huge pain when it comes to this [11:20] opps wrong channe; [11:21] ubuntujenkins: ok, e2 works fine for me [11:21] trying e1 now [11:22] hmm may not be the latex packages then [11:22] the packages take ages to install [11:22] ubuntujenkins: i dont think so, it may be something wrong with ChrisWoollard's setup [11:23] yea thats my thinking, hoepfully reinstalling the ubuntu-manual-tex package my solve it [11:25] I hope as well. [11:25] we all do mate [11:25] I also hope the re-install fixes the issue [11:27] dpkg: error processing texlive-xetex (--configure): [11:27] subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 [11:27] Setting up tipa (2:1.3-14) ... [11:27] Running mktexlsr. This may take some time... done. [11:27] I just spotted that error [11:28] i think that does it for me too but it doesnt seem to make a difference [11:28] Processing triggers for libc-bin ... [11:28] ldconfig deferred processing now taking place [11:28] Processing triggers for python-support ... [11:28] Errors were encountered while processing: [11:28] texlive-xetex [11:28] ubuntu-manual-tex [11:28] E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) [11:28] it has now finished the install [11:29] make works for me as well. and so did the install. hmm there is something wrong with your setup [11:29] ChrisWoollard: you dont have any tex packages from the repos installed do you? [11:30] There shouldn't be [11:30] what does sudo dpkg --configure texlive-xetex give? [11:30] I think all of the packages are superseded by my packages [11:31] ubuntujenkins: even so, its worth ruling out any possibilities like that [11:31] nisshh: I agree [11:31] cwoollard@cwoollard-desktop-sony:~$ sudo dpkg --configure texlive-xetex [11:31] [sudo] password for cwoollard: [11:31] Setting up texlive-xetex (2009-10ubuntuppa1) ... [11:31] Running mktexlsr. This may take some time... done. [11:31] Building format(s) --all --cnffile /etc/texmf/fmt.d/10texlive-xetex.cnf. [11:31] This may take some time... done. [11:31] seemed to work [11:32] try make now [11:32] ubuntujenkins: does e1 work for you? [11:32] yep [11:32] hang on maybe not tried 32bit [11:33] it still gives this error on make [11:33] [1 [11:33] ! I can't write on file `main.pdf'. [11:33] (Press Enter to retry, or Control-D to exit; default file extension is `.pdf') [11:33] Please type another file name for output: [11:33] ChrisWoollard: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [11:33] hehe [11:34] manualbot: Great thanks. You were a great help. [11:34] silly manualbot [11:34] ChrisWoollard: Error: "Great" is not a valid command. [11:34] ChrisWoollard: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [11:34] ChrisWoollard: are you only running 'make' not 'make filename' [11:34] ChrisWoollard: what does "make ubuntu-manual-en_GB.pdf give? [11:34] I am only running 'make'. [11:39] ok, holy crap i forgot how big the e1 branch was [11:43] lucid-e1 works on both 32 bit and 64bit [11:44] Ok. I have no idea what has happened to my computer [11:44] ChrisWoollard: can you run dpkg -l and pastebin it please [11:45] http://paste.ubuntu.com/445052/ [11:48] e1 works for me too [11:57] nisshh: do you have texlive-full installed? [11:58] ubuntujenkins: hell no, thats HUGE [11:58] don't worry that doesn't matter my virtual machie doesn't and it still works [11:58] yea [11:59] I am going to reboot. back in a couple of minutes [11:59] ok, I really don't know what it is [11:59] I just did an fschk. [11:59] \nyway back soon [12:06] * ubuntujenkins does not know whats worng [12:17] Ok. I have no idea any more. It just doesn't work [12:19] the only thing is file permisson error this line "! I can't write on file `main.pdf'." makes me think it. but it makes no sense why it would be that. [12:20] as you have said you have a new branch [12:21] your user home directory doen't have no standard permissons does it? [12:21] *non [12:21] Shouldn't do. I haven't changed anything [12:22] Why do i get the feeling that It would be quicker to re-install. [12:22] godbyk might know he may be up in a few hours. [12:22] its so strange that this is happening [12:22] I will wait until then. [12:23] I know. It is weird [12:23] I would like to know what it is if we work it out. [12:24] * ubuntujenkins starts revision [12:25] * ChrisWoollard is sorry for distracting you :) [12:30] don't worry I would rather have got a fix out early so less people are affected [15:57] A question to any one: Can you think of a better way of detecting the current graphics driver in use. lshw is too slow for quickshot [16:02] ubuntujenkins: not off the top of my head but there MUST be another way of doing that [16:03] nisshh: I figured there would be , hopefully someone will know of one [16:04] linux = 20 different ways of acheiving something [16:04] lol [16:04] lspci | grep VGA [16:06] shrini: does that give the driver. I think mine is jsut the card i have [16:09] yea no driver with that command [16:10] it only matters as the command used to change the resolution depends on the command to be used [16:12] yep [16:12] it only matters as the command used to change the resolution depends on the driver in use [16:12] that makes more sense :) [16:23] nisshh: can you paste the output of ls /sys/module [16:24] http://paste.ubuntu.com/445160/ [16:24] ubuntujenkins: ^^ [16:25] ta [16:25] is your graphics a i915? [16:26] something like that [16:26] i9xx anyway [16:27] thats ok, #ubuntu-uk are trying to think how to handle multi card setups [16:27] VGA controller is an intel 946GZ [16:28] ah, i dont have a multi-card setup [16:28] i run inbuilt gfx [16:28] really shitty unbuilt gfx... [16:29] lol another way is to query runing xorg aparently [16:29] yea, that might work [16:30] any idea how to do it? [16:31] nope :) [16:31] hang on ill help you out with my google fu [16:32] I am googleing but my laptop is on slow go as I am repartioning an external dirve [16:34] hmm, found a command to find the amount of ram your vid chip has [16:35] hmm, does the man page for it have anything of use [16:35] maybe, hang on [16:37] ubuntujenkins: aha! that same command also shows the current "kernel driver" in use by your gfx card [16:37] its: lspci -v -s 00:02.0 [16:37] im apparently using the i915 driver [16:39] yea lspci -v might help. I wonder how it works if someone has two graphics cards. [16:39] well, both should be listed there then [16:40] yea but which one are they currently using is harder to work out [16:41] well, if someone had dual cards, wouldnt they most likely be using either sli of xfire? [16:41] or xfire [16:41] what are those? [16:42] if you have two gfx cards in your machine, you just have a little, hardware "bridge" between them and then your system will use both cards [16:43] let me find a pic to show you [16:43] cool thanks I will look into it [16:45] right, sli is what nvidia calls it, xfire is what ati calls it [16:45] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scalable_Link_Interface [16:46] its been around for about 5-6 years in mainstream [16:46] * nisshh is off to watch a movie now [16:46] cool, I think i should do some more revison [17:03] can you send me the paste bin with the repository info in it. [17:08] godbyk: hai [17:14] ChrisWoollard: do you mean the manual ppa stuff? [17:19] ?mppa | ChrisWoollard [17:19] ChrisWoollard: The manual team has a latex PPA you can add it by running these commands in a terminal(Applications → Accessories → Terminal): sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-manual/ubuntu-manual then sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install ubuntu-manual-tex [17:20] shrini: I guess godbyk is still a sleep [17:20] ubuntujenkins: oh. ok ok [17:20] waiting for him [17:20] will wait [17:20] no issues [17:20] some of us have irc on 24 hours a day you see [17:20] cool [17:21] yet to confirm tamil fonts from him [17:21] :-) [17:21] I see [17:27] I found the ppa [17:27] thanks [17:27] I had a note anyway [17:27] cool, I guess you went for reinstalling then>? [17:28] Well, I now have another vm. This one works [17:28] very strange indeed [17:29] I am just not sure if i have copied all my ssh / gpg / lp keys across. [17:30] That doesn't explain why my other vm doesn't work. [17:30] I will still ask godbyk when i see him [17:31] yea i can't think what is is [17:33] I wonder if something went wrong when I expanded the disk on the vm. [17:34] I should have cloned it first before I did anything. [17:36] I don't have much expeince with expanding the disk on a vm [17:45] godbyk: thanks for the links! [18:33] team [18:33] need a help [18:33] we have uploaded 7 chapters to LP [18:34] how to check for the pdf output? [18:34] ubuntujenkins: any idea? [18:43] ? [18:43] room is so silent [18:43] :-) === AlanBell is now known as ilikechickens === ilikechickens is now known as AlanBell [19:38] anybody there? [19:41] shrini: only halfway [19:59] thorwil: :-) [20:05] need help on getting new pdf [20:05] we updated some more in LP [20:06] is there any way to get latest pdf? [20:06] shrini: ooh, by running "make"? [20:06] hey @all [20:06] hi daker [20:07] shrini: provided you have all the tex stuff in place, which is why i don't intend to bother with that myself any time soon again :) [20:08] thorwil: hi [20:08] i have all the things [20:08] yesterday did a make and got a PDF [20:08] * thorwil switched partition/installation and would have to set it all up again [20:08] godbyk, ping [20:08] today updated lot in LP [20:08] daker: pong [20:08] how to make a updated pdf? [20:08] godbyk: hai [20:09] Hey, shrini. [20:09] * vish watches ping-pong match [20:09] shrini: make again? [20:09] shrini: You'd just run 'make ubuntu-manual-ta.pdf' to generate the PDF. [20:09] shrini: But you won't see anything new until I download the latest translations from Launchpad. [20:09] godbyk, i am trying to make a class that read an xml file [20:09] it wont get today's updates [20:09] (I'll do that now and regenerate the PDFs.) [20:09] daker: Using php? [20:09] yes [20:10] Okay. [20:10] godbyk: how can I do that myself/ [20:10] ? [20:10] shrini: You can't, really. [20:10] as I have the bzr repo [20:10] with me [20:10] godbyk: fine. [20:11] what is your current time now? [20:11] shrini: As soon as Launchpad emails me the translations, I'll put them in the bzr repository. Then you can run 'bzr pull' to update your repository and 'make ubuntu-manual-ta.pdf' to regenerate the PDF. [20:11] how long I can trouble you? [20:11] godbyk, http://paste.ubuntu.com/445232/ [20:11] ok [20:11] shrini: It's currently 14:00 here. So I'm going to be here for quite a while. :) [20:11] godbyk: ok. thanks [20:12] I get a new po file in mail [20:12] where to put that? [20:12] shrini: Rename the po file to ta.po and put it in the po/ directory. Then just rerun 'make ubuntu-manual-ta.pdf' [20:12] godbyk: okey [20:12] thats fine [20:12] will do now [20:12] 'kay. [20:13] I'm waiting for Launchpad to email me all the translations. (It usually takes five minutes or so.) [20:13] daker: is either ugly i or o don't understand the purpose [20:14] it's just a presentation [20:14] daker: if the element represents a revision, the revision should be an attribute and the element name would have to be neutral [20:15] godbyk: did that [20:15] thorwil, it's to hard to make a code for that [20:15] :-) [20:15] font issue is there [20:15] daker: the only other unclear thing is %s%.pdf [20:16] daker: go and stand in a corner! ;) [20:16] getting only boxes [20:16] :-) [20:16] with my presentation : i should just call : $oTree->element("e2-10.04", "en", "print", "mirrors", "mirror1"); [20:16] i think your version of pdf may be good [20:16] waiting for your pdf version [20:17] thorwil, to get the first mirror [20:18] or $oTree->element("e2-10.04", "fr", "print", "mirrors"); to get an array of all the mirrors of the printed edition (e2) [20:18] I don't know if you can use . in xml element names. [20:19] daker: do you handle cases where the number of mirror may be = 0 or > 2 ? [20:19] i think we can [20:19] godbyk, the code is working for me [20:19] daker: I'd change to [20:20] that's problem [20:20] my class doesn't handle that [20:21] let me start these translations real quick, then I'll come back to your xml, daker. [20:21] shrini: the font issue will still be there, yeah. I haven't fixed that yet. [20:21] take your time [20:21] godbyk: okok [20:25] http://kanchilug.wordpress.com/2010/06/04/schedule-for-ubuntu-10-04lts-release-party/ [20:25] we have release party [20:25] shrini: I saw that. It looks awesome! [20:25] will try best to bring the tamil pdf [20:26] godbyk: wow [20:26] saw already? [20:26] how? [20:26] Google found the page and emailed it to me. [20:26] (It tells me when it see 'ubuntu manual' on a website.) [20:27] * ubuntujenkins gets bored of revision [20:27] wow [20:27] great [20:27] ubuntujenkins: what is this revision you keep mentioning? [20:27] we are they top of google when you search "ubuntu manual" [20:27] shrini: I've put all the translations in bzr now, so if you run 'bzr pull' you should get the latest. [20:27] thorwil: I have end of second year uni exams [20:27] I'm also building all the translated PDFs now. It'll take about 30 minutes for them to finish. [20:28] godbyk: great [20:28] thorwil: heat transfer and fluid flow and electronics to finish [20:28] heat transfer and fuild folw is one exam [20:28] godbyk: doint that [20:28] doing that [20:29] the diff only updated. right? [20:29] shrini: It looks like someone may have already translated the Tamil LaTeX stuff for us: http://www.mail-archive.com/xetex@tug.org/msg00063.html [20:29] ubuntujenkins: revision is if you have to take an exam again? (there are several translations of the term that could work in this context) [20:29] shrini: I'm going to see if I can track down a copy of those files. [20:29] godbyk: fine [20:31] thorwil: revision = study in preparation for exams [20:31] godbyk: ping [20:31] channel: ping [20:31] * ubuntujenkins wishes that worked :P [20:31] ChrisWoollard: pong [20:32] you mean that [20:32] * godbyk wishes he could replace himself with a small shell script [20:32] do /ping #ubuntu-manual [20:33] godbyk, can you have a look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/444989/ [20:33] do you have any idea what might be going wrong [20:33] wow. [20:33] Um.. I'm guessing it's a file permissions problem. [20:34] what's 'pwd' say? [20:34] and then show me 'ls -ld .' [20:34] cwoollard@cwoollard-desktop-sony:~/Projects/lucid-e2$ pwd [20:34] /home/cwoollard/Projects/lucid-e2 [20:34] who would ever think godbyk could be replaced with a small shell script? [20:34] and then try 'touch main.pdf' [20:35] though then again, maybe some mysterious perl one-liner?? [20:35] drwxr-xr-x 21 cwoollard cwoollard 12288 2010-06-05 15:44 . [20:35] thorwil: sadly, perl is probably what you'd have to use, as scatter-brained as I am most days! [20:35] touch main.pdf works fine [20:36] run 'make clean' [20:36] then run 'xelatex main' [20:36] I even tried deleting the braet and getting it again [20:36] branch [20:38] http://paste.ubuntu.com/445253/ [20:38] weird. [20:38] do you have an existing main.pdf in that dir (as a file or folder)? [20:39] that's what -rw-r--r-- 1 cwoollard cwoollard 447 2010-06-05 20:39 main.aux [20:39] -rw-r--r-- 1 cwoollard cwoollard 0 2010-06-05 20:36 main.glo [20:39] -rw-r--r-- 1 cwoollard cwoollard 0 2010-06-05 20:36 main.idx [20:39] -rw-r--r-- 1 cwoollard cwoollard 43325 2010-06-05 20:39 main.log [20:39] -rw-r--r-- 1 cwoollard cwoollard 0 2010-06-05 20:36 main.out [20:39] ChrisWoollard: Error: "rw-r--r--" is not a valid command. [20:39] -rw-r--r-- 1 cwoollard cwoollard 1762 2010-06-05 08:55 main.tex [20:39] ChrisWoollard: Error: "rw-r--r--" is not a valid command. [20:39] ChrisWoollard: Error: "rw-r--r--" is not a valid command. [20:39] ChrisWoollard: Error: "rw-r--r--" is not a valid command. [20:39] ChrisWoollard: Error: "rw-r--r--" is not a valid command. [20:39] * ubuntujenkins hits quickshotdevs [20:40] Bad, quickshotdevs! Bad! [20:40] * ubuntujenkins tries to work out why its using - [20:40] ChrisWoollard: Well, obviously tex can write files to that directory, so that's not the issue.. [20:41] It happened after patching the ppa. [20:42] but its not the ppa, as we checked it this morning [20:42] And I installed a whole new vm and installed the ppa again and it was fine [20:43] I checked in a vm and nissh did an update . [20:43] I checked the 64bit on a real machine [20:44] The only thing I could think of was that there may be a corruption in my vm. [20:44] Have you any ideas? [20:45] Here's what the LaTeX Companion has to say about that error: [20:45]