[00:01] <mathiaz> Daviey: https://code.launchpad.net/~ccheney/ubuntu/lucid/eucalyptus/lucid-sru/+merge/26839
[00:05] <mathiaz> hggdh: which bug are you trying to verify?
[00:05] <hggdh> mathiaz: no bug right now, just trying to keep in sync
[00:06] <hggdh> and, after ccheney's SRU makes it into proposed, I will test it again
[00:06] <mathiaz> hggdh: ok - so we're going to upload version of eucalyptus in -proposed
[00:06] <mathiaz> hggdh: awesome
[00:22] <lewq> Hey. I'm having real trouble with a 10.04 server I've installed on /dev/sdb, with a data drive on /dev/sda. I told the installer to install grub2 on /dev/sdb and the BIOS to boot straight off that disk. Grub booted the first time, I installed some updates (possibly a new kernel / grub loader, not sure) and upon reboot, I get "error: out of disk". following http://superuser.com/questions/89307/grub2-error-out-of-disk gives me "error: out of disk" when I tr
[00:22] <lewq> y and do step 5, ls /boot/. Any ideas? It's gone midnight and I'm in the data centre tearing my hair out!
[00:23] <aj_____> >	Hi I am currently having a problem with creating a new user in ubuntu server 10.04, when ever I create a new user their terminal will open and then immediately close.
[00:24] <aj_____> any suggestions
[00:24] <ScottK> How did you create the new user?
[00:25] <ChmEarl> lewq, boot your box with live CD like knoppix or puppy. Hose the shitty grub2 and use puppy's grub 0.97 and write a menu.lst in classic style
[00:25]  * ccheney back
[00:25] <aj_____> sudo adduser
[00:26] <ScottK> ChmEarl: Please don't give advice to do stuff that's totally unsupported by the distro unless you plan to provide follow on support to the people that do it.
[00:26] <ChmEarl> lewq, ScottK booya
[00:27] <ccheney> mathiaz, should i upload to proposed or will whoever reviews it do that?
[00:27] <ScottK> aj_____: What was the exact full command you used.
[00:28] <aj_____> sudo add user --system calvin
[00:28] <aj_____> then i added calvin to the admin group
[00:29] <ccheney> mathiaz, for 566793 we are waiting on scott to fix it properly :)
[00:29] <ScottK> aj_____: You don't want a normal user to be a system user.
[00:29] <aj_____> how do I create a second system user then?
[00:30] <ScottK> If it's for an actual human user, it's not a system user.
[00:30] <ScottK> System users are used by different programs.
[00:31] <aj_____> ok so if I just put adduser calvin it will work
[00:31] <mathiaz> ccheney: ok - I'd suggest to upload to -proposed once the SRU reports are properly written
[00:31] <mathiaz> ccheney: I've a note to the review on the bzr merge proposal
[00:31] <ScottK> aj_____: You already have a user calvin at this point.  Simplest probably to remove it and then add it again.
[00:31] <ccheney> mathiaz, ok
[00:32] <aj_____> ok thanks
[00:33] <ccheney> anyone happen to know what does the mapping from public ip to internal ip in eucalyptus, it seems that is what is causing the problem on my box, the internal ip 172.x dhcp server seems to be working fine
[00:49] <qman__> hmm
[00:49] <qman__> anyone know where I can get libc6-dev_2.7-10ubuntu5?
[00:49] <qman__> the latest is 10ubuntu6, but my server wants 5
[01:00] <qman__> it also needs linux-libc-dev_2.6.24-27.69_amd64.deb
[01:03] <qman__> ah, found them in a hardy-proposed location on launchpad
[03:05] <qman__> gah, still can't get those drivers to compile
[03:05] <qman__> looks to be https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/233950
[03:10] <neo_> I am writing some of document, It's about linux and network. if you have interest to read it. please go to http://netkiller.sourceforge.net/
[03:13] <CppIsWeird> trying to install ubuntu-xen-server package on 10.04 it tells me that xen-tools package cannot be found.
[03:14] <neo_> may be xen package is too old.
[03:14] <neo_> why not, trying to install KVM.
[03:15] <CppIsWeird> may be some monkey threw a bannana at the ubuntu repo server thus deleting the package from existance.
[03:15] <neo_> I think the KVM　is better then Xen
[03:15] <CppIsWeird> i am happy that you are able to form an opinion. this makes the human race look better.
[03:16] <CppIsWeird> though i guess i should use the word species.
[03:20] <MTecknology> What is an ideal use for Amazon EC2?
[03:20] <CppIsWeird> porn.
[03:21]  * ball snorts
[03:22] <CppIsWeird> MTecknology, what kind of question is that? You have some free EC2 time you wanna burn or something?
[03:24] <MTecknology> CppIsWeird: It was a question of curiousity - which was asked under the intention of getting a meaningful response
[03:24] <ball> MTecknology: Isn't that a hosted computer (or virtual computer) that's on-line somewhere?  Perhaps you could use it as an off-site backup.
[03:24] <ball> ...or for porn.
[03:24] <CppIsWeird> well, a meaningful response is anything.
[03:25] <CppIsWeird> it is a remote instant computer with virtually unlimited resources that can do anything a computer at your feet can do, only a million times more.
[03:25] <ball> That sounds handy.
[03:25] <ball> I should get me one of those.
[03:25] <CppIsWeird> the only limitation is your imagination and pocket book.
[03:25] <MTecknology> ball: nah- they charge you based on how much you use - I've been trying to figure out if I want to host some of my services on it and if so - which parts
[03:26] <CppIsWeird> well you can hire me as a consultant. smartass remarks do not cost extra.
[03:26] <ball> So it's one of those things that's available if you need it (or if you think you might need it).
[03:26] <ball> ...but can be safely ignored otherwise.
[03:26] <CppIsWeird> ball, yep.
[03:27]  * ball goes back to trying to remember how to use rsync
[03:27] <CppIsWeird> MTecknology, if you feel like testing without paying you can set up a private cloud with just one computer, or if you really feel like it, you can set it up in a virtual machine then test out loading virtual services.
[03:27] <MTecknology> afaik - you need to deploy a certain image - and then script the installation of the rest of the services - then you can easily deploy a new instance of something
[03:27] <CppIsWeird> any virtual machines you make in ubuntu enterprise cloud are compatible with EC2
[03:29] <MTecknology> CppIsWeird: does unlimited also refer to say unlimited bandwidth?
[03:30] <CppIsWeird> like i said, the only limitations are your imagination and your wallet.
[03:31] <ball> I considered Ubuntu for a project that I was working on earlier this year.  That could have been called a "private cloud" I suppose, if I were into buzz-words.
[03:31] <GhostFreeman_> Having issues booting into Ubuntu after updating from 8.04 to 10.04
[03:31] <ball> I got frustrated in the end and scrapped the project.  Couldn't find a good way to build a high-availability system from two discrete servers.
[03:32] <GhostFreeman_> Anyone know a good starting point for "Gave up waiting for root device"
[03:33] <CppIsWeird> what is a "high-availability system"
[03:33] <MTecknology> CppIsWeird: so if you hosted a drupal website there that got say 200 hits per month - how much would you say that would cost?
[03:33] <MTecknology> 'basic blog site'
[03:34] <CppIsWeird> http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/
[03:35] <ball> CppIsWeird: In our case, something that appears (to the end users) as a single machine and doesn't go away when one server fails.
[03:35] <CppIsWeird> MTecknology, imho EC2 would be overkill for a blog site.
[03:36] <CppIsWeird> just go get a virtual web host for like $5 a month for that.
[03:36] <CppIsWeird> their everywhere
[03:36] <MTecknology> CppIsWeird: that's the part that confused me - sometimes it reads like you pay for only the resources you use - and sometimes it sounds like you pay for the server itself
[03:36] <CppIsWeird> *they're
[03:36] <CppIsWeird> as far as you know, there is no server.
[03:37] <CppIsWeird> you pay for resources.
[03:37] <MTecknology> so how do you set things up?
[03:37] <MTecknology> if there's no server
[03:37] <MTecknology> (from your view)
[03:37]  * ball ponders
[03:38] <CppIsWeird> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBajLxeKqoY
[03:38]  * CppIsWeird clicks the "that was easy" button
[03:38]  * ball can't play YouTubes
[03:38] <CppIsWeird> sucks for you.
[03:39]  * ball shrugs
[03:39] <ball> I'm giving serious thought to frying up some shrimp.
[03:39] <CppIsWeird> sounds good
[03:39] <ball> ...or perhaps making some mushroom toasties
[03:39] <CppIsWeird> hot sauce or coconut?
[03:39] <MTecknology> http://dpaste.com/203386/
[03:39] <ball> Onion sauce, possibly.
[03:39] <MTecknology> I win :D
[03:40] <ball> I wonder how tall a Shorty is.
[03:40] <CppIsWeird> I wonder wtf MTecknology is talking about
[03:41] <MTecknology> CppIsWeird: i won free money
[03:41] <CppIsWeird> i see
[03:42] <MTecknology> CppIsWeird: you check the headers?
[03:43] <CppIsWeird> nigeria
[03:43]  * ball snorts
[03:43] <ball> Back shortly, toasties.
[03:43] <CppIsWeird> damn it, i wanted shrimp
[03:44] <ball> I'll put the shrimp in to marinade.
[03:44] <ball> Eat those tomorrow.
[03:44] <CppIsWeird> fair enough
[03:47] <MTecknology> how do you turn off that annoying music in youtube that they seem to attack to every single video?
[03:47] <CppIsWeird> you're an idiot.
[03:48] <MTecknology> perhaps
[03:48] <CppIsWeird> easy. know that cord that plugs into the wall from your computer?
[03:49] <CppIsWeird> that is the source of the music.
[03:49] <CppIsWeird> cut the cord and there will be no more music.
[03:49] <CppIsWeird> i would unplug it first before i cut it.
[03:50] <MTecknology> alrighty! killed that music..
[03:51] <CppIsWeird> must be using a laptop.
[03:51] <MTecknology> of course
[03:51] <MTecknology> I only own one system
[03:52] <CppIsWeird> job hunting sucks. :(. im having to update my resume from like 3 years ago
[03:55] <CppIsWeird> compiling stuff from source takes FOREVER
[03:56] <MTecknology> that's why i stopped using gentoo
[03:56] <MTecknology> and the general bloat with it..
[03:57] <MTecknology> We're just about to start searching for someone to hire
[03:59] <GhostFreeman_> CppIsWeird: I got my last job interview from my LinkedIn page
[03:59] <ball> MTecknology: to do what?
[04:00] <CppIsWeird> GhostFreeman_, interesting
[04:00] <MTecknology> ball: web development
[04:00] <CppIsWeird> i have a linked in page but no links :P i'm lazy when it comes to social networking
[04:00] <GhostFreeman_> I just deleted my twitter profile
[04:00] <GhostFreeman_> My willpower is nothing
[04:00] <MTecknology> zomg - miley deleted hers!
[04:01] <GhostFreeman_> >i care
[04:01] <MTecknology> :P
[04:01] <ball> I don't enjoy Web development
[04:01] <ball> Alright, I'll be back later.
[04:02] <GhostFreeman_> MTecknology where is the position at
[04:03] <MTecknology> GhostFreeman_: sioux falls, sd - i'm not sure if we can go much wider right now - for tax and insurance (not sure we can afford it)
[04:03] <GhostFreeman_> Ok
[04:03] <GhostFreeman_> I can't move to SD at the moment
[04:03] <GhostFreeman_> so i'll decline
[04:04] <GhostFreeman_> Atlanta is as close as i'm willing to move
[04:04] <MTecknology> what kind of web dev do you do?
[04:04] <GhostFreeman_> RAD web development in PHP or Ruby
[04:05] <MTecknology> you ever use drupal?
[04:05] <GhostFreeman_> Yes, i'm actually fighting with this dinky old ProLiant just so I can do some Drupal work for a friend
[04:05] <MTecknology> like- in depth - such as building in authentication witha  kerberos mentality?
[04:06] <GhostFreeman_> Haven't done Kerberos, I did have to write a lot of order process code for a electrical supply company
[04:06] <CppIsWeird> i did not have fun with drupal
[04:06] <GhostFreeman_> Drupal is like getting crucified
[04:06] <CppIsWeird> writing custom modules was a pain in the...
[04:07] <qman__> so, I'm getting a bit desperate, and I'm thinking about installing a lucid kernel on my hardy server
[04:07] <qman__> is this a very bad idea?
[04:07] <MTecknology> not kerberos itself - just that mentality - where drupal is the kerberos server
[04:07] <MTecknology> qman__: why?
[04:07] <MTecknology> yes - it is a bad idea
[04:07] <qman__> e1000 driver in hardy doesn't support my NIC
[04:08] <qman__> and all attempts to compile the driver have failed
[04:08] <qman__> I've been messing with it for over five yours
[04:08] <qman__> hours*
[04:08]  * CppIsWeird is still compiling...
[04:08] <MTecknology> heh... that's nothing
[04:08] <qman__> I can't update/upgrade the server because it can't get online
[04:08] <qman__> the onboard NIC failed, and the replacement won't work
[04:08] <MTecknology> I spent >300 hours getting my kernel 'just right' - or close to it - and that's not including compile time
[04:09] <GhostFreeman_> So are we back to "Ubuntu Server Support," because while I enjoyed the segue I really need to get this machine headless again or I will go insane
[04:09] <qman__> I don't mind upgrading the rest of the system to lucid, I just need to get it online in order to do that
[04:09] <MTecknology> boot to a live cd and chroot
[04:10] <GhostFreeman_> The problem is that on startup, it throws that "ALERT! /dev/mapper/ubuntu--server-root does not exist" error, drops me to the initramfs shell, and I have to fumble to find the monitor cable to exit out of it to finish booting
[04:11] <GhostFreeman_> i'm looking in /dev/mapper and there's said directory there
[04:11] <qman__> according to the deps, there's no obvious reason the new kernel shouldn't work, but I guess a live environment is worth a try first
[04:11] <MTecknology> GhostFreeman_: with the two hyphens in both?
[04:11] <GhostFreeman_> yes MTecknology
[04:12] <GhostFreeman_> just to clear the air
[04:12] <MTecknology> GhostFreeman_: pastebin /etc/fstab
[04:12] <GhostFreeman_> the server is a Compaq ProLiant ML330
[04:12] <GhostFreeman_> ok give me a moment
[04:12] <MTecknology> qman__: you just need a driver in the newer kernel?
[04:12] <qman__> yes, but I can't get it to compile
[04:13] <qman__> on the old kernel
[04:13] <qman__> or any kernel, for that matter
[04:13] <MTecknology> it's probably not woth the effort to go that way
[04:13] <qman__> the newer kernel comes with the newer version
[04:13] <MTecknology> grab systemrescuecd - if you have 32 bit type 'rescue32' else 'rescue64' for 64 bit - iirc
[04:14] <MTecknology> then when you get booted up - get networking working - probably dhclient eth0
[04:14] <GhostFreeman_> MTecknology: http://pastebin.com/VCsKS2VC
[04:14] <qman__> and just chroot, do-release-upgrade?
[04:14] <GhostFreeman_> >chroot
[04:14] <GhostFreeman_> oh wait changing directory
[04:14] <qman__> I'll be sure to image the disk first
[04:14] <CppIsWeird> does ubuntu have a zlib lib and headers package or do i have to install that from source?
[04:15] <MTecknology> then mount everything to (say /mnt/ubuntu) - make sure to mount -o bind /tmp /mnt/ubuntu/tmp && mount -t proc none /mnt/ubuntu/proc
[04:15] <MTecknology> then when you mount everything - cp -L /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/ubuntu/etc/
[04:15] <qman__> vaguely familiar from back when I was using gentoo
[04:15] <MTecknology> then... chroot /mnt/ubuntu /bin/bash
[04:16] <MTecknology> then..... do-release-upgrade
[04:16] <qman__> ok, sounds like a plan
[04:16] <MTecknology> THEN!..... reboot
[04:16] <qman__> because what I've been doing is going nowhere
[04:16] <MTecknology> qman__: before you launch chroot - could you pastebin 'mount' for me to check over?
[04:17] <qman__> not exactly, can't SSH
[04:17] <qman__> but there's three partitions
[04:17] <qman__>  /, /boot, /home
[04:17] <qman__>  /home is a RAID device, md0
[04:17] <MTecknology> ok - just make sure to mount /, /boot, /tmp, /proc (in the chroot) [as described]
[04:17] <qman__> home shouldn't matter for this
[04:17] <MTecknology> nah
[04:18] <MTecknology> you'll only be root
[04:18] <MTecknology> oh.. when you become root - consider 'source /etc/profile'
[04:18] <qman__> which is good, because that's where the important data is
[04:18] <MTecknology> yup - no reason to touch home for this
[04:19] <MTecknology> GhostFreeman_: pastebin 'ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/'
[04:19] <qman__> now if only I could find my systemrescuecd
[04:19] <GhostFreeman_> MTecknology, do you OK
[04:19] <GhostFreeman_> ok
[04:19] <MTecknology> qman__: if you can't find it - it's probably out of date :P
[04:20] <MTecknology> not that it matters... you only need the 64/32 bit kernel for a little bit
[04:20] <GhostFreeman_> MTecknology: http://pastebin.com/DyUChMqp
[04:20] <MTecknology> GhostFreeman_: and... 'ls -l /dev/mapper/'
[04:21] <MTecknology> qman__: just carefully follow what i wrote - you'll be perfectly fine :) - enjoy
[04:21] <GhostFreeman_> MTecknology: http://pastebin.com/536JLe5g
[04:23] <MTecknology> odd
[04:23] <GhostFreeman_> yeah
[04:24] <GhostFreeman_> I was thinking this might be an issue in grub but I don't know
[04:24] <MTecknology> lvm sits on sdb1?
[04:24] <GhostFreeman_> to clear the air, this was an update from 8.04 LTS
[04:25] <GhostFreeman_> is it possible LVM settings did not migrate from 8.04 to 10.04
[04:25] <MTecknology> lvm sits on sdb1?
[04:25] <qman__> yeah, it's got an older kernel than hardy
[04:25] <qman__> doesn't detect the NIC
[04:26] <GhostFreeman_> That's my guess, I installed Ubuntu to use LVM by default
[04:26] <MTecknology> systemrescuecd has a pretty new kernel in it..
[04:26] <GhostFreeman_> how could I check?
[04:26] <MTecknology> vg*
[04:26] <CppIsWeird> ok, every zlib tar.gz from every mirrior i get is failing to uncompress because of crc errors.
[04:26] <qman__> yeah, I'm downloading the latest one
[04:26] <MTecknology> CppIsWeird: bad network?
[04:26] <CppIsWeird> shouldnt be...
[04:27] <CppIsWeird> ive downloaded other things and unpacked them
[04:27] <MTecknology> CppIsWeird: something with pebkac?
[04:27] <CppIsWeird> unlikely
[04:27] <CppIsWeird> tar xvfz file.tar.gz
[04:27] <MTecknology> linky?
[04:28] <CppIsWeird> http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/libpng/zlib/1.2.5/zlib-1.2.5.tar.gz?use_mirror=softlayer
[04:28] <GhostFreeman_> MTecknology: How should I go about checking to see where LVM is located?
[04:28] <MTecknology> GhostFreeman_: vg<tab><tab>
[04:29] <GhostFreeman_> ok
[04:29] <qman__> thanks for the help, I'm feeling a lot better about this
[04:29] <qman__> it was really driving me up a wall
[04:29] <qman__> this is what I get for spending the extra money on an intel NIC
[04:30] <qman__> a rosewill realtek probably would have just worked out of the box
[04:30] <GhostFreeman_> I got the command "vgcfgbackup" and the output is here http://pastebin.com/YdXXfnhw
[04:32] <MTecknology> CppIsWeird: heh....
[04:32] <MTecknology> CppIsWeird: f=etwcebrypwekahejt;echo ${f:8:1}${f:0:1}${f:5:1}${f:11:1}${f:12:1}${f:3:1}
[04:32] <CppIsWeird> wtf is that?
[04:32] <a3ist> substring removal
[04:33] <MTecknology> a3ist: hush ;)
[04:33] <a3ist> :P
[04:34] <CppIsWeird> fine, what am i doing wrong?
[04:34] <a3ist> its like being back in programming class
[04:34] <MTecknology> CppIsWeird: idk - wfm
[04:34] <MTecknology> a3ist: that was fun :)
[04:34] <qman__> hopefully the upgrade works smoothly, otherwise I'm rather hosed
[04:34] <a3ist> Slightly mean
[04:34] <a3ist> but still funny
[04:35] <qman__> fresh install and reconfigure all the services
[04:35] <MTecknology> qman__: sounds painful - btdt
[04:35] <MTecknology> somebody else in the world is likely struggling the exact same - without irc
[04:36] <MTecknology> that pour sool
[04:36] <qman__> yeah
[04:36] <MTecknology> a3ist: btw.... I at one point made a complete sentance like that..
[04:36] <qman__> I was screwing around googling outdated package versions and loading them on with a flash drive
[04:37] <qman__> modifying makefiles, even patched a kernel source trying to get those stupid drivers to compile
[04:37] <qman__> nothing doing
[04:37] <a3ist> there's a lot of coding homework type problems out there with obfuscated text
[04:37] <CppIsWeird> MTecknology, do you know what im doing wrong?
[04:37] <MTecknology> not surprising that a module introduced in a later kernel couldn't be backported
[04:37] <qman__> it was complaining about autoconf files not being there, even though they were there
[04:37] <a3ist> anyone familiar with xinetd that can tell me how multiple only_from sources can be set for a service?  Are they comma delimited?  Double quoted?
[04:38] <MTecknology> CppIsWeird: wget http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/libpng/zlib/1.2.5/zlib-1.2.5.tar.gz?use_mirror=softlayer; tar zxf zlib-1.2.5.tar.gz
[04:38] <MTecknology> CppIsWeird: that worked
[04:38] <qman__> I'm not a programmer, but I do know a thing or two about compiling software
[04:38] <MTecknology> qman__: backports suck..
[04:38] <qman__> but that one, just couldn't figure it out
[04:38] <MTecknology> especially in non-backportable kernel drivers :P
[04:39] <CppIsWeird> ok, well it doesnt work for me for whatever reason. i've used multiple mirrors. and i've downloaded other files, why would this one file keep coming to me corrupt. doenst make sense.
[04:39] <MTecknology> you're only other option would be to grab an upstream kernel build for hardy which is probably pretty old at this point
[04:39] <MTecknology> you try on a different computer?
[04:39] <qman__> between the holiday, UPS guy not showing up, and this, the server's been down for over a week
[04:39] <CppIsWeird> eh, thats too much work
[04:40] <qman__> ok, new systemrescuecd downloaded
[04:40] <MTecknology> CppIsWeird: curl -0 http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/libpng/zlib/1.2.5/zlib-1.2.5.tar.gz?use_mirror=softlayer | tar -zx
[04:40] <MTecknology> qman__: g'luck
[04:41] <GhostFreeman_> MTecknology, have you had a chance to see my vgcfgbackup output?
[04:42] <MTecknology> !vg
[04:42] <MTecknology> !lvm
[04:42] <MTecknology> !vg is <alias>lvm
[04:42] <MTecknology> GhostFreeman_: check out those links
[04:42] <GhostFreeman_> ok
[04:43] <MTecknology> GhostFreeman_: It's been a long time and i probably can't help w/o doing the same searches as you - you need to check that your volumes and volume groups are still intact
[04:43] <GhostFreeman_> Would it just be easier for me to reinstall 10.04 scratch without LVM?
[04:44] <GhostFreeman_> I'm not that far into this client's work to be set back by a fresh start
[04:44] <MTecknology> it's up to you
[04:44] <GhostFreeman_> Well, i'm already burning an install CD so
[04:45] <GhostFreeman_> I need to understand LVM someday, but it's a matter of how much time i'm willing to commit to this project so
[04:46] <MTecknology> lvm is easy once you've done it a couple times
[04:46] <GhostFreeman_> yeah
[04:47] <GhostFreeman_> Thanks for your help though
[04:55] <GhostFreeman_> Now if there was a way I could install 10.04 over SSH even better
[04:55] <GhostFreeman_> or at least control the install via SSH
[04:55] <MTecknology> you can..
[04:56] <GhostFreeman_> Is that something that can be enabled at installer setup?
[04:56] <MTecknology> no
[04:57] <GhostFreeman_> !install via ssh
[04:57] <MTecknology> it's not something to play with when things aren't workin to begin with
[04:58] <GhostFreeman_> Ok, i'll just use a monitor
[05:03] <tech404> I'd like to have some basic power management on a server at home to keep the power use and heat down at my house. It's headless so I'd like to keep unneeded resources off of it. I don't need hibernation at all and suspend would probably never be used either. What are some good minimal packages to support dynampic cpu freq and maybe harddrive spindown? I assume acpid but acpi-support seems to have a lot of bloat.
[05:05] <CppIsWeird> MTecknology, what version of tar do you have?
[05:07] <MTecknology> tar (GNU tar) 1.22
[05:07] <CppIsWeird> ty
[05:08] <MTecknology> qman__: how's it going?
[05:19] <CppIsWeird> MTecknology, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gzip/+bug/524366
[05:25] <MTecknology> CppIsWeird: nice to know
[05:30] <ruben23> hi guys whats the fastest and most realiable to fins a file on my ubuntu-server..?
[05:31] <ruben23> find i mean
[05:32] <MTecknology> fallous: locate
[05:32] <MTecknology> ruben23: *
[05:33] <Nonpython> I have set up apache2 with 2 virtual hosts, but the first one (trueblogtales.com) does not work at all, just having 404 for everything, and the second one (staringintothevoidpointer.com) serves the stuff for trueblogtales.
[05:33] <Nonpython> Help me!
[05:33] <CppIsWeird> find / -name porn_i_lost
[05:33] <ruben23> MTecknology:ive done it it doesnt display
[05:35] <a3ist> anyone know if a client on a lan with an ubuntu server box can connect to an xinetd-spawned vnc4server without using ssh to tunnel in first?
[05:53] <MTecknology> ruben23: did you run sudo updatedb?
[05:54] <MTecknology> a3ist: should be able to use vnc4viewer
[05:54] <MTecknology> !patience | Nonpython
[05:55] <Nonpython> I have set up apache2 with 2 virtual hosts, but the first one (trueblogtales.com) does not work at all, just having 404 for everything, and the second one (staringintothevoidpointer.com) serves the stuff for trueblogtales. Please help.
[05:56] <a3ist> MTecknology: Does it have to be vnc4viewer to spawn a vnc4server via xinetd?  Two of the clients are OSX boxes with chicken of the vnc
[05:59] <ruben23> MTecknology: im on root
[05:59] <ruben23> hi there i have directory, as i ls command i can see to many file and found ruben_011_series file numbered form 100-1000, but when i locate ruben, and find ruben- its not displaying anything, means ti not finding the file, even though ruben is there
[06:01] <MTecknology> ruben23: man find; man locate
[06:03] <a3ist> at this point I'm probably just going to write up a script for the clients to tunnel vnc over ssh using pubkey authentication; my overall goal is to keep it as easy as possible for the two mac users, who wouldn't be comfortable with CLI tasks.  Which explains why they prefer macs and I'm gettin them started with ubuntu gnome environments as a transition :)
[06:04] <MTecknology> a3ist: vnc is bad - you should use something else - just fyi ;)
[06:04] <a3ist> already got them using openoffice for a while now, next step is gimp; to get their business shifted over to FLOSS
[06:04] <a3ist> its only on lan, not from external
[06:04] <a3ist> if I'm logging in remotely I'm doing so over ssh and using just the shell
[06:04] <ScottK> MTecknology: Just saying X is bad without saying why or offering an alternative isn't particularly useful.
[06:05] <MTecknology> ScottK: sorry - also arguing with my fiancee on the phone....
[06:05] <MTecknology> there's freenx and others that offer MUCH greater security and are usually faster
[06:05] <ScottK> OK.  Probably better just to have one argument at a time then.
[06:05] <a3ist> I'm assuming he was referring to VNC protocols sending data in the clear, but it shouldn't be a problem over a closed lan
[06:06] <MTecknology> a3ist: it's really easy to listen to traffic across lan's - sometimes
[06:06] <a3ist> Freenx sounds interesting, I'll check it out
[06:06] <MTecknology> !freenx
[06:07] <a3ist> In addition, the macs are connected via ethernet and not wireless; the only wireless client is my laptop I'm on right now running fedora 13 and using wpa and ssh
[06:08] <ScottK> Assuming the LAN is reasonably firewalled, I think your assumption is correct.
[06:09] <MTecknology> gotta go... :(
[06:10] <a3ist> He's getting kill -9'd by the fiancee
[06:10] <a3ist> Thanks for the tips MT
[06:29] <qman__> gah
[06:29] <qman__> everything was going fine, but then the console locked up solid mid-upgrade
[06:29] <CppIsWeird> :))
[06:29] <qman__> I don't know if it's a software bug or another hardware failure
[06:29] <CppIsWeird> sry.
[06:29] <CppIsWeird> how long has it been locked?
[06:30] <qman__> about five minutes
[06:30] <qman__> can't change ttys, numlock doesn't turn on/off
[06:31] <CppIsWeird> yeah, locked.
[06:31] <CppIsWeird> i would guess some sort of hardware conflict at least
[06:32] <qman__> well, it could have crashed the framebuffer
[06:32] <qman__> the upgrade is taking place inside a chroot from systemrescuecd
[06:32] <CppIsWeird> then it sounds like you know more than me
[06:32] <qman__> but in either case
[06:32] <qman__> it halted
[06:32] <qman__> and I don't know how that's going to affect the upgrade
[06:33] <CppIsWeird> eh, crashing mid upgrade is not wise, but not always harmful. depends on the package.
[06:33] <CppIsWeird> ive crashed there before and been fine
[06:33] <qman__> it had already installed the new kernel and got past grub and most of the services
[06:33] <qman__> I have to guess it was near the end
[06:34] <qman__> I don't really know enough about how the upgrade process works, maybe it'll leave the unconfigured packages flagged
[06:35] <qman__> it should have enough to boot
[06:35] <qman__> oh well, worth a shot
[06:39] <qman__> excellent, it worked
[06:39] <qman__> reset, sudo dpkg --configure -a, upgrade resumed
[06:40] <CppIsWeird> nice
[06:40] <CppIsWeird> thats right
[06:40] <CppIsWeird> i remember that now
[06:40] <qman__> the video output looks fine, so it must have been a software thing
[06:40] <qman__> I had a video card die in a server before, it wouldn't even boot back up
[06:41] <MTecknology> qman__: hey-back
[06:41] <MTecknology> I've seen upgrades to 10.04 crash - never found any consistency... but always seemed to be the same issue :S
[06:42] <MTecknology> qman__: is it finishing up?
[06:42] <qman__> I figured it was setting up console-fonts or something similar
[06:42] <qman__> and possibly the host system and the chroot got into it over the framebuffer
[06:42] <qman__> that command got it going again, seems to be doing fine
[06:43] <MTecknology> yay
[06:43]  * MTecknology runs off again - yay... :(
[06:50] <fallous> locate?  homey ain't no bot ;)
[07:08] <qman__> it worked, the system is back online
[07:08] <qman__> torrentflux is broken, but I expected that
[07:08] <qman__> everything else works
[07:15] <MTecknology> qman__: ya
[07:15] <MTecknology> qman__: i can now go to sleep :)
[07:15] <MTecknology> g'night
[07:15] <MTecknology> s/ya/yay
[07:15] <MTecknology> s/\s\/ya\/yay/\s\/ya\/yay\//
[07:16] <MTecknology> or something like that...
[07:16] <GhostFreeman_> Well, I tried a reinstall of 10.04 with and without LVM and i'm still encountering that kickback to busybox error
[07:16] <GhostFreeman_> I think its time I went to the forums about this
[09:17] <incorrect> is there a package i can install that will check the health of my hdd's ?
[12:46] <mohammad6006> my package installer not closed what can i forced to close a windows in ubuntu?
[12:48] <mohammad6006> my package installer not closed what can i forced to close a windows in ubuntu?
[14:00] <diago1> I'm setting up KVM and would like to use NFS to store the guest images. Does anyone have any opinions on this? I have been reading about creating an iSCSI target as well.
[14:57] <KurtKraut> I have a small computer network (5 PCs running Ubuntu). How can I unify logins, passwords and home folders? OpenLDAP seems quite 'rocket science' for such a small job.
[15:15] <KristianDK> How do i give apache access to a file, in a users directory without giviing other users access to it?
[15:18] <yowlst> external controller and serverA has multiple disk as raid1, can serverB access to serverA and see md0, md1 etc..   ?
[15:19] <yowlst> sorry
[15:19] <yowlst> hi, if i attach 2 server with sas external controller and serverA has multiple disk as raid1, can serverB access to serverA and see md0, md1 etc..   ?
[15:40] <remix_tj> KristianDK: give access to the www-data group
[15:41] <KristianDK> remix_tj, what do you mean? to the directory?
[15:42] <KristianDK> like changing the owner of the directory
[15:42] <remix_tj> to the dir or the file you want to
[15:43] <KristianDK> remix_tj, ok, i will just try it
[15:44] <KristianDK> remix_tj, did chown username:www-data directory -R and chmod 0740 directory
[15:44] <KristianDK> remix_tj, and it doesnt work
[15:44] <KristianDK> chmod was recusive too *
[15:45] <remix_tj> KristianDK: is your dir under an apache documentroot?
[15:46] <KristianDK> remix_tj, its in /home/username/config/
[15:46] <KristianDK> and the dir id did the commands on what the users homedir
[15:46] <KristianDK> ¨
[15:46] <remix_tj> but is not the documentroot
[15:47] <KristianDK> what do you mean?
[15:47] <KristianDK> oh
[15:47] <KristianDK> no
[15:47] <KristianDK> its a directory for .wsgi files
[15:47] <KristianDK> so you dont want them to be under a documentroot
[15:47] <remix_tj> KristianDK: you can enable the userdir module, and create public_html dir in your user's home
[15:47] <remix_tj> so you can access with http://yoursite/~username/
[15:48] <KristianDK> remix_tj, thats not what i need - im hosting django apps, which needs these .wsgi files to enable the users to add special parameters to their hosting
[15:48] <KristianDK> like adding directories to their pythonpath or whatever
[15:49] <remix_tj> ahn
[15:49] <KristianDK> but the thing is, if i just make the dir chmod 777 it works
[15:49] <KristianDK> so i just need to find a way to limit the access for apache only
[15:49] <remix_tj> KristianDK: you should give access to all the directories in path to www-data group
[15:51] <KristianDK> remix_tj, that was what i thought when i did chown username:www-data /home/username/ -R
[15:52] <remix_tj> but what are /home permissions?
[15:52] <remix_tj> ls -ld /home/
[15:52] <KristianDK> drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 2010-06-05 13:52 /home/
[15:53] <KristianDK> they have global reed as i see it, so i guess it shouldnt be a problem?
[15:53] <remix_tj> uhm, i think permissions are correct, you have only an apache configuration problem
[15:53] <remix_tj> but i do not have idea
[15:54] <KristianDK> remix_tj, but i dont get it - how come it works if i do chmod 777 /home/username/ then?
[15:55] <remix_tj> maybe the wsgi file requires x privileges
[15:55] <remix_tj> ah
[15:55] <remix_tj> on directories you must have 750, not 640
[15:57] <KristianDK> ill just give it a try, sec
[15:57] <KristianDK> remix_tj, seems to work :D will just try it on a new installation where i didnt do all kind of weird things and see if it works
[16:04] <WhatWhat> Hello. Is there a official documentation on how to secure a Ubuntu server running 10.04LTS?
[16:14] <ScottK> The official documentation is the server guide listed in /topic.
[16:14] <ScottK> It depends a lot by what you mean by secure.
[16:14] <jumbers> I was browsing through my SMTP logs and noticed some logs of www-data (Apache) sending out emails and I'm not sure why it would be doing this. Is there any fairly simple way of tracking down what is causing them to be sent? It's happened a couple times and been sent to 2 addresses I'm not familiar with
[16:15] <MasterZuFu> how do i install a GUI management for exim4?
[16:15] <ScottK> jumbers: In the mail logs, trace it back to the first entry for the transaction and then look in your apache logs around that time.
[16:16] <MasterZuFu> I found this: http://silverwraith.com/vexim/download.html but i have no idea on exactly how to install/use it
[16:16] <jumbers> ScottK: Would there be anywhere that it would have logged the contents of the email?
[16:16] <ScottK> jumbers: You won't find the contents in the mail logs.
[16:18] <lewq> How big does /boot have to be? Is 32MB enough?
[16:19] <MasterZuFu> i guess no one knows how to install this thing.
[17:24] <GhostFreeman_> How do I list what groups exist on a given server installation
[17:29] <ScottK> GhostFreeman_: Look at the contents of /etc/group.
[17:29] <GhostFreeman_> Thank you
[17:30] <MasterZuFu> I'm trying to install ebox on my server. sudo apt-get install ebox worked, if I try and run sudo apt-get ebox-all it says it can't find the package. additionally, I can't access ebox gui feature from http://myhost/ebox
[17:33] <MasterZuFu> but I guess no one really cares, so crew it
[17:35] <KurtKraut> MasterZuFu, what is precisely the package name apt says it can't find?
[17:37] <MasterZuFu> i'm not sure to be honest. I ran sudo apt-get install ebox ebox-network and it installed a bunch of stuff and tried to install dyndns crap that i don't even need. but when i try sudo apt-get install ebox-all or sudo apt-get install ebox ebox-all it says it can't find the package
[17:37] <MasterZuFu> E: Couldn't find package ebox-all
[17:39] <MasterZuFu> i'll have to deal with this tomorrow. it's 2 am here and I have to get up at 6 am to go to work. I'll ask again tomorrow. Thanks for the support.
[17:41] <ScottK> MasterZuFu|Bed: There is no ebox-all package in Ubuntu.
[17:42] <MasterZuFu|Bed> http://trac.ebox-platform.com/wiki/Document/Documentation/InstallationGuide
[17:42] <MasterZuFu|Bed> You can also install all the eBox packages:
[17:42] <MasterZuFu|Bed> sudo apt-get install ebox-all
[17:45] <ScottK> Then you need to talk to Ebox people about that.  We don't have such a package.
[18:58] <jeeves_Moss> is there a dynamic CPU scaling program that I can toss on my backup server so it's not sucking as much power when the load is low?
[19:00] <cloakable> jeeves_Moss: if your CPU supports it, the kernel can do it automatically.
[19:00] <jeeves_Moss> cloakable, cool.  is there a test to see if it's working?  it just seems that the cooling fans on this box are cycling a lot.  I relize that it's a tiny antec case, but......
[19:02] <cloakable> jeeves_Moss: does the CPU support frequency scaling, first?
[19:03] <jeeves_Moss> cloakable, as far as I know it does.  it's a 3.0ghz Intel P4 on a higher end ASUS board
[19:05] <cloakable> jeeves_Moss: install cpufrequtils
[19:06] <jeeves_Moss> cloakable, ok, one sec.
[19:06] <GhostFreeman_> I'm trying to get apache2 to load a website in /home/websites over /var/www with no success. What am I doing wrong?
[19:07] <jeeves_Moss> cloakable, ok, installed
[19:07] <GhostFreeman_> false alarm, it works now.
[19:07] <cloakable> jeeves_Moss: check 'cpufreq-info'
[19:07] <jeeves_Moss> kk
[19:07] <jeeves_Moss> cloakable, lol, unknowen on both cores
[19:10] <cloakable> jeeves_Moss: damn. Try 'sudo modprobe p4-clockmod'
[19:10] <jeeves_Moss> cloakable, kk, one sec
[19:10] <jeeves_Moss> cloakable, nothing
[19:12] <cloakable> jeeves_Moss: try cpufreq-info again
[19:13] <jeeves_Moss> cloakable, lol, there we go.  one sec
[19:14] <jeeves_Moss> cloakable, http://pastebin.com/2G6DKgLc
[19:14] <GhostFreeman_> I stand corrected, the issue is still there
[19:15] <GhostFreeman_> It will load a static HTML document now but I can't get it to load a php document needed to install Drupal
[19:15] <GhostFreeman_> if I post a pastebin, can I get some help figuring this out?
[19:16] <jeeves_Moss> cloakable, ok, sorry, now I have more time to focus on this.  I was just setting up spam assian
[19:19] <cloakable> jeeves_Moss: Trying to work out how to get the ondemand cpufreq govenor. :)
[19:19] <jeeves_Moss> cloakable, no worries.  I'm just trying to get SA to behave.  I hate this hosting busniess.  I guess if one is going to do it, one has to learn each peice, one @ a time
[19:20] <cloakable> jeeves_Moss: pretty much
[19:20] <jeeves_Moss> cloakable, currently, this little box hosts all of the v-domains untill I get the new hardware into a rack in the CoLo
[19:25] <jeeves_Moss> cloakable, the only reason I want it to dymaically scale is because it's sitting in my basement on top of 2 ADSL lines, and I don't feel like having her run full boar all day long.
[19:26] <cloakable> jeeves_Moss: yeah
[19:26] <jeeves_Moss> cloakable, you wouldn't know how to get sa-update to run once a day and work properlly?
[19:26] <GhostFreeman_> here's that pastebin btw if anyone can offer to help http://pastebin.com/t9ueDfDX
[19:27] <jeeves_Moss> cloakable, I think I can just make a cron job to do it
[19:27] <cloakable> jeeves_Moss: cpufreq_ondemand doesn't exist in ubuntu 10.04 apparently. wtf?
[19:27] <jeeves_Moss> cloakable, lol!!!!
[19:27] <jeeves_Moss> cloakable, I guess it's another thing they've butchered
[19:28] <cloakable> jeeves_Moss: apparently.
[19:28] <cloakable> jeeves_Moss: what version are you running?
[19:28] <jeeves_Moss> cloakable, let's not get started on ruby!
[19:29] <cloakable> jeeves_Moss: yes, lets not
[19:29] <jeeves_Moss> cloakable, hardty
[19:29] <jeeves_Moss> cloakable, *hardy
[19:29] <cloakable> jeeves_Moss: try 'sudo modprobe cpufreq-ondemand'
[19:30] <jeeves_Moss> cloakable, nada!  just a line feed
[19:31] <cloakable> jeeves_Moss: cpufreq-info :D
[19:31] <jeeves_Moss> cloakable, we did that already
[19:32] <jeeves_Moss> cloakable, the info shows it'll clock down to 375mhz
[19:32] <cloakable> jeeves_Moss: yeah, but you should be using the ondemand governor now.
[19:32] <cloakable> jeeves_Moss: what about current clock?
[19:32] <jeeves_Moss> cloakable, http://pastebin.com/2G6DKgLc
[19:32] <jeeves_Moss> cloakable, that's what I'm getting
[19:33] <jeeves_Moss> is there a CLI that shows CPU freq in real time?
[19:33] <cloakable> jeeves_Moss: it's not listing the ondemand governor. Is it modprobed properly?
[19:33] <MrPicard> hi guys, i require some help, im trying to run a shoutcast server
[19:34] <jeeves_Moss> cloakable, I tried the modprobe you gave me and it's not listed
[19:34] <MrPicard> ill rerun the system again and provide you with the error, i know you do not support shoutcast however this may be an internal run command in unix shell
[19:34] <MrPicard> or i may be missing somthing
[19:34] <cloakable> jeeves_Moss: if it says nothing, it succeeded.
[19:34] <jeeves_Moss> cloakable, syntax again?  I'll double check
[19:35] <cloakable> jeeves_Moss: 'sudo modprobe cpufreq-ondemand'
[19:35] <jeeves_Moss> cloakable, just a line feed
[19:36] <cloakable> jeeves_Moss: then try 'sudo cpufreq-set -g ondemand'
[19:37] <jeeves_Moss> cloakable, ok, done.  let's hope it works!  LOL
[19:38] <jeeves_Moss> cloakable, ok, there we go, it shows that "on demand" and "preformance" are listed
[19:38] <cloakable> jeeves_Moss: now run 'cpufreq-info' because the info should have changed. The kernel will set the cpu speed automatically depending on load.
[19:38] <cloakable> jeeves_Moss: Give me a new pastebin?
[19:39] <cloakable> jeeves_Moss: of the new output
[19:39] <jeeves_Moss> cloakable, http://pastebin.com/SrBkNjkf
[19:40] <cloakable> jeeves_Moss: "current CPU frequency is 375 MHz (asserted by call to hardware)." congratulations :)
[19:41] <Error404NotFound> i have a ubuntu LAMP server serving a wordpress blog and couple of other things. Right now there are too many hits to my blog and i can't log in to my admin panel or login to mysql using commandline. any ideas?
[19:41] <jeeves_Moss> cloakable, yea!!!  Thanks man.  I just hope this'll pull the power usage lower.  Once I get the Xenon rackmounts running, I'll get them to pull low like this.  I don't have a lot of amperage I can use in the rack, and I get charged overages
[19:42] <cloakable> jeeves_Moss: Put p4-clockmod and cpufreq-ondemand into /etc/modules to get them to load on boot.
[19:42] <jeeves_Moss> cloakable, thanks!
[19:43] <cloakable> jeeves_Moss: your CPU has gone from 3000MHz to 375MHz... there will be a difference :)
[19:43] <jeeves_Moss> next up.  getting SA to update, ClamAV (on e-mail, FTP, and Samba), then my webmail, etc
[19:44] <jeeves_Moss> cloakable, thanks again.  I just hope this'll lower the temp in the box as well!!  she's warm, and here in Suthern Ontario, it's bloody hot outside
[19:44] <cloakable> jeeves_Moss: ever touched a 375MHz cpu? ;)
[19:45] <jeeves_Moss> cloakable, lol, I have a 366mhz with 32Mb of RAM acting as our NTP server and RADIUS box.
[19:45] <jeeves_Moss> cloakable, it controlls all of the WiFi access points @ our stables.
[19:45] <cloakable> jeeves_Moss: ever touched the cpu heatsink? :)
[19:45] <jeeves_Moss> yep
[19:46] <cloakable> So there you are :)
[19:46] <jeeves_Moss> cloakable, mine is never under a serious load, so.....
[19:46] <cloakable> jeeves_Moss: So it'll probably run at 375MHz most of the time.
[19:46] <jeeves_Moss> cloakable, I know the MoBo will scale the fans, so, I just had to get the power requirements under control, and I think we did it!
[19:46] <cloakable> jeeves_Moss: Whoo!
[19:47] <jeeves_Moss> cloakable, I don't think I can wake up the database server that I'm building remotley (I can't remember it's MAC), otherwise, I'd test to see if she'd scare the Xenons
[19:48] <cloakable> jeeves_Moss: not sure if the Xenons support cpu frequency scaling, though.
[19:48] <jeeves_Moss> cloakable, I know the new ones do.  @ work, we have a rack of Dells that run VMWare, and they scale, as well as have v-moation on them.
[19:49] <cloakable> jeeves_Moss: aha. Aparently p4-clockmod will work magic on them too :)
[19:51] <HollowPoint> anyone know of a bug in Lucid, where after installing the LAMP server, the apache server simply tries to get you to download php files instead of viewing them in the browser as it should?
[19:53] <jeeves_Moss> cloakable, sorry about that.  damn coffee shop needs to get something more stable
[19:57] <MrPicard> Hi Guys, i have been setting up a shoutcast server following http://iwtf.net/2010/01/04/setting-up-a-linux-based-shoutcast-server/ however it seems when it comes to starting the service i get this come up [1] + Done(127)                  ./sc_serv ./sc_serv.conf what should i do next?
[19:57] <MrPicard> i have looked at my current IP port however even this isnt accepting the connection
[19:58] <jeeves_Moss> MrPicard, what do the logs say?
[19:58] <jeeves_Moss> MrPicard, did you compile from source, etc?
[19:58] <MrPicard> i followed that site from word by word.
[19:58] <cloakable> jeeves_Moss: eh :)
[19:59] <MrPicard> used the Vi editor
[19:59] <jeeves_Moss> MrPicard, how did you install the server?  did you d-load the packages from APT?
[19:59] <jeeves_Moss> cloakable, ok, now I'm my turn to "give back" to the community
[19:59] <MrPicard> No, i used the wget command.
[19:59] <jeeves_Moss> MrPicard, ok, you you installed from source.
[20:00] <MrPicard> Yup the main source
[20:00] <MrPicard> one secon
[20:00] <MrPicard> ill paste the commands in via ubuntu paste.
[20:00] <jeeves_Moss> MrPicard, are you behind a router, or direct connect to the internet?
[20:01] <jeeves_Moss> MrPicard, and I'll need your IP to see if your server is up
[20:01] <MrPicard> Ok sure
[20:01] <MrPicard> im behind a router thats normally ok
[20:01] <MrPicard> 173.203.80.84
[20:01] <MrPicard> my server is running on a cloud
[20:01] <jeeves_Moss> MrPicard, and you have ports 8000 and 8001 forwarded to your internal IP?
[20:02] <MrPicard> Im not sure Jeeves, this has been an experiment. :D
[20:02] <MrPicard> i used iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -i eth0 --dport 8000 -m state --state NEW -j ACCEPT
[20:02] <MrPicard> iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -i eth0 --dport 8001 -m state --state NEW -j ACCEP
[20:02] <MrPicard> but it couldnt find iptables.
[20:03] <jeeves_Moss> MrPicard, that's becasue you're behind a router.  I don't think you have iptables installe.d
[20:03] <MrPicard> the server its self is running on the rackspace cloud
[20:04] <jeeves_Moss> MrPicard, hummmm, you need to find out how they forward ports
[20:04] <MrPicard> http://paste.ubuntu.com/445229/
[20:06] <jeeves_Moss> MrPicard, I'm not 100% sure how rackspace does thier firewalling.  when I nmape
[20:06] <jeeves_Moss> MrPicard, I'm not 100% sure how rackspace does thier firewalling.  when I nmapped your IP, the required ports wern't open.  is there a log generated by the shotcast server?
[20:08] <MrPicard> Ok
[20:08] <MrPicard> is it ok to ask in the main ubuntu IRC channel
[20:08] <MrPicard> and see if anyone knows there?
[20:08] <jeeves_Moss> MrPicard, that'll prob be your best idea.  I'm all tapped out here.  I havn't set one up before
[20:23] <MrPicard> how does one switch off the ip tables?
[20:42] <ScottK> MrPicard: If you do:
[20:43] <ScottK> sudo /sbin/iptables -F
[20:43] <ScottK> sudo /sbin/iptables -X
[20:43] <ScottK> That will remove all the active rules so iptables isn't doing anything.
[20:43] <ScottK> It doesn't turn it off, but does make sure it isn't doing anything.
[20:44] <qman__> don't forget to set the policies to accept
[20:44] <qman__> sudo /sbin/iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT
[20:44] <qman__> sudo /sbin/iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT
[20:49] <malchias> can someone direct me to a wordpress shared hosting guide for security?   Specifically I am confused on permissions that each directory needs to be set when I set it up
[20:50] <malchias> I can lock it down, but in doing so, I can't get wordpress to work.  And when it's working, it has 750 and 777, or even 644 on some files so someone could change a wordpress theme file and simply open the database connection files - how do I prevent that?
[20:50] <malchias> (or worse write to it by the same manner)
[21:23] <wieshka> PROBLEM: i am doing do-release-upgrade, and it stuck at the Setting up javascript-common (6) ...
[21:23] <wieshka> what are my options/best solutions
[21:27] <wieshka> bump - anybody here ?
[21:30] <wieshka> found solution - i killed apache2
[21:33] <wieshka> before that i disabled sites running with SSL
[21:33] <ScottK> How long was it stuck?
[21:37] <wieshka> for 20 minutes
[21:37] <wieshka> and no CPU load
[21:37] <wieshka> i supouse it wanted to restart apache2
[21:37] <wieshka> but i have ssl passowrd prompt
[21:37] <wieshka> to stdinout
[21:38] <wieshka> but script sends it to dev/null
[21:38] <wieshka> i removed from sites-enebled ssl webs
[21:38] <wieshka> and script after 5 sec finished proccess
[21:39] <wieshka> fuck, i supouse my ffmpeg install will be replaced
[21:40] <wieshka> i forgot to check out
[21:40] <wieshka> now i have to find my notes to rebuild it for my needs
[21:59] <malchias> Is there a recommended way to do updates?  (cron apt-get update && apt-get upgrade)
[22:04] <wieshka> malchias: you mean scheduled updates ?
[22:05] <malchias> yes
[22:05] <malchias> is that a bad idea?
[22:07] <ScottK> It is.
[22:08] <malchias> so, manually check the deb security releases, and approve manually on some schedule I can live with?
[22:09] <ScottK> On a server, I tend to think you should not use automatic updates.
[22:09] <malchias> I can understand why, just looking for best practices
[22:09] <ScottK> What I do is subscribe to the security list and then do manual updates when something is fixed that concerns me.
[22:10] <Q_Continuum> I'd agree with ScottK.
[22:10] <malchias> ok, cool, thak you guys
[22:10] <Q_Continuum> Also on some regular basis I'd run updates, but that's just me.
[22:10] <malchias> how about best practices security for wordpress installs?
[22:10] <ScottK> Isn't that rather orthogonal?
[22:10] <malchias> I am confused about directory permissions (what they should be to allow both wordpress to function and to be safe)
[22:11]  * ScottK doesn't run it, so doesn't know.
[22:11] <malchias> I'd have to look that word up
[22:11] <wieshka> i am daily doing something on server via ssh
[22:11] <ScottK> security and wordpress seem like contradictory topics.
[22:11] <wieshka> it writes in motd if there is some updates aviable
[22:11] <wieshka> if yes, i check what and deside - update or not-to-update
[22:12] <Q_Continuum> I do like some of that featureset they added
[22:13] <wieshka> malchias: for example now i am already spent 2 hours to migrate from jaunty to lucid
[22:13] <wieshka> ok that is release upgrade
[22:13] <wieshka> but still - upgrades only manually
[22:14] <malchias> so, forums, etc where users can create php files - what would be the general method of securing the directories but still allow php to read/write to them - or is that simply impossible?
[22:18] <malchias> for example, if I had users in /var/www/someuser/htdocs    how should I normally set the permissions for each part of that directory tree so someuser1 can't see/use/manipulate someuser2 files?
[22:19] <malchias> I'm running them as someuser.www-data but people can easily create a script and if apache can read it, they can have their script read sensitive files
[22:50] <MTecknology> Could one of you tell me what 'file /usr/share/gconf/defaults/ln' shows you?
[23:05] <CppIsWeird> MTecknology, still interested?
[23:06] <MTecknology> CppIsWeird: only slightly now - I told a guy to rm the file and then rm a different one- and things work for him now :P
[23:07] <CppIsWeird> oh, ok.
[23:07] <CppIsWeird> so then no.
[23:07] <MTecknology> CppIsWeird: maybe not the best choice - but a cyclic symlink is kinda :S
[23:07] <CppIsWeird> heh
[23:07] <MTecknology> IOError: [Errno 40] Too many levels of symbolic links: '/usr/share/gconf/defaults/ln
[23:08] <MTecknology> one symlink links to the other
[23:08] <MTecknology> and vise versa
[23:08] <MTecknology> I'm going to go get something to mash up potatoes with - bbiab
[23:08] <CppIsWeird> i just started attacking compiling xen-hypervisor again. it looks like it might actually finally finish.
[23:09] <MTecknology> cool
[23:09] <CppIsWeird> but usually when i say that everything breaks
[23:14] <CppIsWeird> what package do i need to install to install "latex"?
[23:26] <CppIsWeird> well... i have a problem. after installing the xen-hypervisor, ubuntu wont boot
[23:27] <coafcv> hi. if I type ssh 192.168. in my console, and then hit tab, it suggests '192.168.122.2o7.net'. This seems to be highly suspicious (note the 2o7.net). has anyone an idea how this completion could have been suggested my console?
[23:28] <CppIsWeird> bill gates hacked ur box
[23:30] <CppIsWeird> obviously you typed it in there, thats the only way it got there unless someone else has physical access to your machine
[23:31] <CppIsWeird> i'd test it out on my ubuntu box but its currently broken. >_<
[23:31] <coafcv> ...
[23:38] <wieshka> hmmm i have weird problem
[23:38] <wieshka> after migrating from jaunty to lucid
[23:38] <wieshka> my apache error.log says
[23:38] <wieshka> [Sun Jun 06 01:32:02 2010] [error] [client 95.68.67.155] File does not exist: /usr/share/javascript/jquery-1.3.2.min.js, referer: http://cms.remote3.lv/
[23:38] <wieshka> why it tryis to access /usr/share ?
[23:39] <wieshka> not my DOCROOT ?
[23:41] <tsimpson> wieshka: see /etc/apache2/conf.d/javascript-common.conf
[23:42] <wieshka> tsimpson: thx - there is the path :)
[23:43] <wieshka> commented out Alias - tsimpson thx :)
[23:43] <sudotux> Something happened and now ubuntu wont boot it is stuck just booting into the memtest screen how do i fix
[23:43] <wieshka> or maybe better to move all javascripts to that folder
[23:46] <sudotux> Something happened and now ubuntu wont boot it is stuck just booting into the memtest screen how do i fix
[23:51] <coafcv> do bash consoles consult DNS servers for DNS completion when typing something like ssh half.of.a.domai ?
[23:59] <wieshka> Thx everyone - my migration from jaunty to lucid has been finished succesfully, there was only problems with restoring postgresql dbases.
[23:59] <wieshka> have a good night everyone