[02:48] <bjsnider> i'm getting a barrage of emails from apparently different users complaining about the keyserver failing on ppas
[03:04] <wgrant> Yes, it is somewhat unwell at the moment :(
[03:04] <wgrant> Has been for a few hours, by the look of things.
[05:13] <maco> lifeless: halp!
[05:14] <maco> lifeless: bzr is doing things different and confusing now :(
[05:14] <wgrant> maco: What's it doing?
[05:15] <maco> its acting like svn instead of bzr
[05:15] <wgrant> Howso?
[05:15] <maco> commit auto-pushed
[05:15] <maco> i know lp's docs say there's a mode like that
[05:15] <maco> how do i make it go back to distributed mode?
[05:15] <wgrant> See 'bzr help checkouts'
[05:15] <wgrant> Quick fix: bzr unbind
[05:16] <wgrant> 'bzr checkout' creates a bound branch by default. 'bzr branch' creates an unbound one.
[05:16] <wgrant> You switch between the two modes with 'bzr bind' and 'bzr unbind'.
[05:16] <maco> oh
[05:16] <maco> ok
[05:16] <maco> i think i was trying to use bind to change where the push-place was
[05:17] <wgrant> Did you mean 'bzr push --remember some://url'?
[05:17] <maco> yeah probably
[05:17] <maco> i dont recall seeing --remember in "man bzr" though
[05:17] <maco> thank you wgrant
[05:17] <wgrant> The manpage is not exhaustive.
[05:17] <wgrant> bzr help push
[05:18] <wgrant> Oh, it is pretty exhaustive now.
[05:18] <maco> so treat bzr like chanserv. ok.
[05:18] <wgrant> And --remember is there.
[05:18] <maco> yes it is. oops
[05:18] <wgrant> I forgot the manpage was autogenerated.
[05:18] <wgrant> ... and is 2500 lines long. Ouch.
[05:18] <maco> i probably expected it to be near "push" and it wasnt and so i then assumed some other command would do it
[05:19] <micahg> bzr help CMD is usually pretty useful
[05:19] <maco> um yeah 2500 manpages arent the sort you read..they're the sort you grep and hope you're grepping the right words
[05:19] <wgrant> Er, well, it is in the push section.
[05:19] <wgrant> micahg: The manpage appears to be a combination of most of the the 'bzr help' output.
[05:20] <micahg> wgrant: makes sense
[05:20] <maco> oh they have sections
[05:20] <maco> ok. lets just all remove 10 of my geek points now
[05:20] <maco> i think i looked at "command overview" and assumed that was it
[05:20] <wgrant> Heh, not quite :P
[05:22] <maco> i was trying to figure out how to make my branch be a team branch instead. i did a LOT of weird/wrong things to it in the meantime. then nigelb found the "change owner" option in the "branch details" section and so i went and used that and filed a bug saying it was too hard to find the "change owner" thing
[05:22] <micahg> maco: I thought you just push under the team in LP
[05:23] <maco> the team didnt have a branch yet and i was confused
[05:23] <maco> and when i tried doing that it said it was "stacking" the team branch on top of my branch
[05:23] <maco> and then i got more confused
[05:23] <wgrant> You can either move it or just push to a location that doesn't exist yet.
[05:23] <wgrant> Ah, well, it will indeed stack if your branch is set as the development focus.
[05:23] <maco> where "move it" means "find that change-owner thingy" right?
[05:23] <micahg> that's one feature I love about bzr is the autocreation when pushing
[05:24] <wgrant> Right.
[05:24] <wgrant> micahg: Yeah, the combination of bzr and LP there is pretty awesome.
[05:24] <maco> oh is THAT why it did that??
[05:24] <wgrant> Yes.
[05:25] <maco> well now i have things a bit muddled in gally & gally-asl. at least one of them has its development branch stacking on my branch now because i couldnt figure out how to move it
[05:25] <wgrant> So, you want the team branch to be the dev focus?
[05:25] <maco> yes
[05:25] <maco> i have it pointed that way now
[05:26] <maco> but because when i made the team branch, mine was the dev focus, the current-dev-focus one stacks on top of mine
[05:26] <wgrant> There are only two gally branches.
[05:26] <wgrant> Neither is stacked.
[05:26] <maco> gally-asl then, i guess
[05:26] <maco> i got one of them right and one of them wrong
[05:26] <wgrant> Are you sure you didn't delete the newly created team branch, then rename the old one?
[05:26] <maco> thats what i did with gally
[05:27] <wgrant> See, gally-asl has only one branch.
[05:27] <maco> oh or maybe i repeated that on gally-asl now too
[05:27] <wgrant> So it's not stacked.
[05:27] <maco> bah im so confused
[05:27] <wgrant> Moving the dev focus around, when combined with stacking, can be pretty confusing, yes.
[05:28] <maco> the last 2 days' worth of launchpad & bzr usage have been weeeeird
[05:29] <maco> by the way, when creating a team, there's no way to set its owner at that point right? you just create it, then use the change-owner thing for the team then (if youre in the team that you made be owner) delete yourself?
[05:29] <wgrant> Right, you can't set the owner at creation time.
[05:30] <wgrant> Which is perhaps slightly inconvenient.
[06:56] <wgrant> lamont: Hmm. Build farm disaster?
[06:56] <wgrant> A few 'No route to host's, and lots of Fault 8002s on i386, which makes me suspect that a recipe build might have somehow made it through.
[11:25] <daker> hello @all
[11:26] <daker> is there any way to remove a translation template?
[13:42] <kalib> Hi there. Created a project in launchpad yesterday at morning. Wanna translate using it. I did upload 4 files and is still as "Nees Review". How long it will take?
[14:36] <FullFlannelJacke> Getting rejections to my ppa uploads and dont know why.
[14:37] <FullFlannelJacke> I uploaded it once and it was rejected because of my Changelog.  Then, after a lot of searching, i fixed that and uploaded it again.
[14:37] <FullFlannelJacke> Now it says that my package is "is already accepted in ubuntu/lucid and you cannot upload the same version within the same distribution."
[14:38] <FullFlannelJacke> anyone anyone?
[14:44] <FullFlannelJacke> I believe it is still an issue with ym changelog.  Can anyone please explain how in the world a changelog is supposed to look?  this is irritating that such a small thing is causing such a PITA
[14:44] <FullFlannelJacke> I am trying to package code I have written and I have no idea how the changelog should look when i have no bug reports, etc..
[14:47] <aakef> Hello all
[14:47] <aakef> Any one here who could help me with launchpad ppa uploads?
[14:48] <FullFlannelJacke> aakef: Im here for the same reason no one seems to be here
[14:48] <aakef> I registered a ppa page, uploaded to it with dput, but nothing happens
[14:48] <aakef> tell FullFlannelJacke: Hmm, thanks. Do you know a mailing list to ask on?
[14:48] <FullFlannelJacke> aakef: check your email.  Your package probably got rejected and you will get an email telling you why
[14:49] <FullFlannelJacke> aakef: if you have even a tiny error in one of the files in /debian, it will get rejected automatically
[14:50] <aakef> tell FullFlannelJacke: I don't get a single mail
[14:50] <FullFlannelJacke> and sometimes it can take 10-15 minutes to get the email
[14:50] <geser> aakef: is the gpg key you used for signing attached to your LP profile?
[14:50] <FullFlannelJacke> then if you got no email, then its likely your package is being "processed" by the server still
[14:50] <aakef> tell FullFlannelJacke: And as unionfs-fuse is already in Debian and Ubuntu, I don't think there is a packaging error
[14:51] <aakef> tell geser: Also already checked that, yes
[14:52] <FullFlannelJacke> GRRR.  My package just got rejected AGAIN.  Can anyone please tell me why my changelog keeps getting rejected?
[14:52] <geser> FullFlannelJacke: what error message?
[14:53] <FullFlannelJacke> saying that instabUnable to find distroseries: unstable
[14:53] <FullFlannelJacke> Unable to find distroseries: unstable
[14:53] <FullFlannelJacke> But if I put lucid in there I get yet another error message
[14:53] <aakef> tell FullFlannelJacke: That would be Debian upload
[14:53] <geser> PPA know only about Ubuntu release names, not Debian ones
[14:53] <FullFlannelJacke> Yeah but if I put lucid in there, it gets rejected still
[14:54] <aakef> tell FullFlannelJacke: I think you need to specify the Ubuntu distro, its in the lauchpad help page
[14:54] <FullFlannelJacke> if I put "lucid" there, i get this error:
[14:54] <FullFlannelJacke> is already accepted in ubuntu/lucid and you cannot upload the same version within the same distribution. You have to modify the source version and re-upload.
[14:54] <geser> what's the package name and the version you try to upload?
[14:54] <wgrant> FullFlannelJacke: You need to increment the version.
[14:54] <wgrant> You can't upload the same version twice; that doesn't make sense.
[14:55] <FullFlannelJacke> This is MY package.  i wrote the code.  And it is version 1.0
[14:55] <FullFlannelJacke> And I have not yet uploaded it
[14:55] <wgrant> You did upload it.
[14:55] <FullFlannelJacke> so even if it gets rejected, i have to change the version?
[14:55] <wgrant> No, it must have been accepted at some point.
[14:56] <wgrant> Rejected versions do not count for the purposes of the version check.
[14:56] <geser> not for rejects, but once it accepted you have to even if the build fails
[14:56] <FullFlannelJacke> Well, I did upload it many months ago, but I deleted it because of a bug..So, i have no idea what version I should be using..
[14:56] <FullFlannelJacke> I guess I will try something like 1.2
[14:56] <geser> LP still remembers this old version
[15:01] <FullFlannelJacke> OK yes, I found it in LP..I will have to upload v1.02 or greater
[15:01] <FullFlannelJacke> I figured it only kept track if the package was *still* there.
[15:12] <aakef> When I got to my launchpad page, it does not even show "Technical details". Any idea? https://launchpad.net/~aakef/+archive/ppa
[15:13] <wgrant> aakef: There are no packages to install from it, so it does not show installation instructions.
[15:14] <wgrant> Did you sign the .changes file with the correct GPG key?
[15:14] <aakef> wgrant: I only have one key for the package mail adress
[15:15] <aakef> wgrant: If it at least would send me a single mail what is going wrong...
[15:15] <wgrant> aakef: If it's not signed properly, it cannot determine who to send an email to!
[15:20] <aakef> gpg: Good signature from "Bernd Schubert <bernd.schubert@fastmail.fm>"
[15:20] <aakef> Successfully uploaded packages.
[15:21] <aakef> Arg, and now suddenly I got a mail
[15:26] <aakef> wgrant: Thanks, it worked! Seems the reason was that I had an old mail address in my key, but I recently deleted that key from launchpad
[15:26] <aakef> I mean i deleted that mail address from launchpad
[20:55] <ochosi> hi everyone
[20:56] <ochosi> is it possible to make launchpad automatically build packages from a git repo?
[20:56] <ochosi> on a regular basis
[21:16] <directhex> how come so many i386 ppa builders are disabled?
[22:02] <FullFlannelJacke> How long does it usually take for a package to be built?  Mine has been waiting 6 hours.
[22:12] <oojah> FullFlannelJacke: It varies greatly depending on what else has been submitted.
[22:12] <oojah> FullFlannelJacke: But at the moment it looks as though there is a problem. See: https://launchpad.net/builders/
[22:12] <FullFlannelJacke> Must have been a lot of submissions today
[22:13] <directhex> FullFlannelJacke, depends on the size of the queue. or, in today's case, whether 80% of i386 PPA builders are disabled
[22:14] <FullFlannelJacke> hmm i wonder why so many are disabled?
[22:20] <wgrant> FullFlannelJacke: A network glitch, it appears.
[22:20] <wgrant> An admin should be around in a couple of hours; I'll poke them.
[23:33] <FullFlannelJacke> can anyone tell me why my build is failing?
[23:34] <FullFlannelJacke> it is saying something about it cant find the data files because they dont exist
[23:34] <FullFlannelJacke> even though they do