[00:15] <glorious> Yes acerimmer I think it worked.  I have to reboot to confirm.
[00:15] <acerimmer> outstanding.  lemme know
[00:24] <nuboon2age> acerimmer, it worked 1/2 way.  The logout screen was correct, the login screen was still lubuntu
[00:25] <acerimmer> i got instant changes when I tried it?  try a diff screen and see
[02:00] <dododoo> hey guys...i updated from 9.10 to 10.4 in mythbuntu and now all my application fonts are like micro size....is there a way to put all fonts to default sizes?  like a reconfigure fonts?
[02:01] <dododoo> mythbuntu uses xfce
[03:38] <newtoubuntu> I need help with MythTV; I am very new to Ubuntu - I downloaded MythTv and have no clue how to set it up to watch television.
[03:39] <newtoubuntu> did I join an empty room?
[03:41] <collinp> No.
[03:41] <collinp> There's just not many people around right now. No clue why.
[03:41] <newtoubuntu> awwe
[03:41] <newtoubuntu> I see
[03:41] <collinp> I've very little experience with MythTV, though, so I can't be of much help.
[03:41] <newtoubuntu> are you familiar with Mythtv?
[03:41] <newtoubuntu> i c
[03:41] <collinp> I'll see what I can do in terms of pointing you in the right direction, though.
[03:41] <newtoubuntu> thanks man
[03:42] <newtoubuntu> it says there are 53 people in this room???/
[03:42] <collinp> Yeah.
[03:42] <collinp> There's probably something relating to what you need in the MythTV user manual: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User_Manual:Index
[03:42] <MagicJ> it would do no harm to ask the question in the #ubuntu area
[03:43] <collinp> Then again, this is also a help channel, so they can get support here. Or should be able to, at least.
[03:43] <collinp> I'm around most of the time, but yeah.
[03:44] <newtoubuntu> I will look again in the MythTV wiki.
[03:45] <newtoubuntu> are you familiar with another DVR/PVR option?
[03:45] <newtoubuntu> like Boxxe?
[03:47] <newtoubuntu> there is nobody in #ubuntu area
[03:47] <newtoubuntu> just kidding
[03:47] <newtoubuntu> mispelled
[04:07] <phillw> newtoubuntu: you could always work your way down this list & see if one of the rooms is alive ;-) http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/IRC
[04:07] <newtoubuntu> thanks dude
[04:08] <MagicJ> I would like to put a "log out" icon on my desktop.   What is the command for gnome logout.  Sort of equivalent to exit at the shell is what I want
[04:33] <dragondon>  how does one stop iptables from logging every dropped connection into the system logs.  I've deleted the rule that tells it to..
[04:40] <dragondon> it seems I delete a rule and suddenly it's back....rather confused here...
[05:18] <kidtp> hello... this isnt related to ubuntu but what is the channel i could go to if i am having trouble with my xbox? would it be microsoft or xbox or xboxlive or something like that??
[05:58] <ZachK_> n8ofsp8ds: ok hey again
[06:00] <n8ofsp8ds> ya
[06:28] <n8ofsp8ds> zach
[06:28] <ZachK_> n8ofsp8ds: Yup
[06:29] <n8ofsp8ds> so i was trying to install srware iron browers
[06:29] <ZachK_> n8ofsp8ds: ok are you running an Ubuntu install?
[06:29] <n8ofsp8ds> how do you install files
[06:29] <n8ofsp8ds> no wubi
[06:30] <ZachK_> Ubuntu 10.04?
[06:30] <n8ofsp8ds> yep
[06:30] <ZachK_> ok
[06:30] <ZachK_> Go to the Applications -> Software Center
[06:31] <ZachK_> Search for the program and install it
[06:31] <n8ofsp8ds> thats it
[06:31] <n8ofsp8ds> lol
[06:31] <n8ofsp8ds> wow i feel dumb
[06:31] <ZachK_> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/add-applications/C/index.html
[06:31] <n8ofsp8ds> one more thing i was trying to install some audio codecs and im keep getting an erro
[06:32] <n8ofsp8ds> error
[06:32] <ZachK_> n8ofsp8ds: no you're not dumb....it will take some getting used to....
[06:32] <ZachK_> What audio codecs?
[06:32] <n8ofsp8ds> for rhytem box
[06:32] <n8ofsp8ds> for my ipod
[06:32] <ZachK_> ok
[06:33] <ZachK_> ah rthymbox rthymbox...one sec
[06:33] <ZachK_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Rhythmbox
[06:33] <ZachK_> check that out
[06:34] <ZachK_> I'm currently using windows so I'm having to search..
[06:34] <n8ofsp8ds> ya i plan on dual booting
[06:34] <n8ofsp8ds> even when i get use to it
[06:34] <ZachK_> apt:ubuntu-restricted-extras?section=universe?section=multiverse
[06:35] <ZachK_> copy that and paste it into your web browser http bar
[06:35] <n8ofsp8ds> alright
[06:36] <n8ofsp8ds> well im heading to bed later thanks for the help again
[07:53] <tofa> I have loaded windows xp onto my laptop and then ubuntu 10.04 now in the dual boot menu xp doesn't appear.
[07:55] <hobgoblin> tofa: open a terminal from the apps > accessories menu - run    sudo update-grub   give your password and see if it finds it now
[07:56] <tofa> Hodgoblin:
[07:56] <tofa> This is what it found:
[07:56] <tofa> cd ~/Desktop tar xvf testdisk-6.11.1.linux26.tar.bz2 sudo testdisk-6.11/linux/testdisk_static /dev/sdb
[07:57] <hobgoblin> update-grub found that?
[07:57] <hobgoblin> do cd first and try again
[08:00] <tofa> cd
[08:00] <hobgoblin> yes - on it's own
[08:01] <hobgoblin> then do sudo update-grub again
[08:02] <tofa> cd ~/Desktop tar xvf testdisk-6.11.1.linux26.tar.bz2 sudo testdisk-6.11/linux/testdisk_static /dev/sdb
[08:03] <tofa> The same thing as without cd
[08:04] <hobgoblin> tofa - highlight the whole text showing in your terminal please - go to paste.ubuntu.com - paste the text in there - put a name in the name box - then hit paste - give us the url you get - I can see what you are seeing then
[08:06] <tofa> Done
[08:08] <hobgoblin> what's the url?
[08:09] <tofa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/445470/
[08:09] <tofa> sorry forgot that bit
[08:11] <hobgoblin> :)
[08:12] <hobgoblin> can you run sudo fdisk -l and pastebin that for me please - that is a lower case L not a 1
[08:13] <tofa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/445471/
[08:13] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> anyone up in here
[08:14] <hobgoblin> yes
[08:15] <hobgoblin> tofa: let me have a think - it's early and I'm waking up still :) I'll be back soon (ish)
[08:15]  * ZachK_ is up as well
[08:15] <ZachK_> hey hobgoblin
[08:15] <hobgoblin> hi
[08:15] <ZachK_> ZeRoDeAtH50435: what do you need
[08:15] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> ok I just found this video and I wanted to know if anyone knew how I can set my desktop to something like that
[08:16] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TU3ZwDBLqu8
[08:16] <ZachK_> compiz
[08:17] <ZachK_> don't know if you can get it completely like that but it's a start
[08:17] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> I did not see those options
[08:18] <ZachK_> well like i said...not sufre
[08:18] <ZachK_> 'sure
[08:18] <ZachK_> never used or will use compiz either so...
[08:18] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> ok then
[08:18] <ZachK_> sorry
[08:18] <ZachK_> ZeRoDeAtH50435: type /join #compiz
[08:19] <ZachK_> they might be able to help you out there
[08:20] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> ok there is a channel for everything
[08:20] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> thanks
[08:24] <hobgoblin> tofa: can you run this and paste it for me please - sudo cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | grep "menuentry" | cut -d '"' -f 2
[08:25] <hobgoblin> I'd be inclined towards copy and paste there :)
[08:26] <tofa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/445476/
[08:27] <hobgoblin> I'm not getting much luck here - I can ask someone later today - if there's no-one else in here able to help it mightbe worth coming back later on - sort of 5 or 6 hours
[08:27] <tofa> Cheers.
[08:27] <hobgoblin> alternatively try #ubuntu or a thread on the forums
[08:27] <tofa> How can I access the NFTS
[08:27] <tofa> i.e.
[08:28] <tofa>  /dev/sda1
[08:30] <hobgoblin> should be there in places - click on it and it should mount - might want your password
[08:35] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> how do I set my HDMI to 1080p and the screen size to 1366x768 I think
[10:46] <joe11> hey guys i started using unbuntu and i was trying to install a printer and it ask for password and it wont accept my password
[10:46] <joe11> keeps saying invalid
[10:46] <hobgoblin> caps lock - spelling ?
[10:46] <joe11> check that
[10:47] <hobgoblin> do you have root rights? is this the first account on the computer?
[10:47] <joe11> how do get that
[10:47] <joe11> you
[10:47] <hobgoblin> sudo
[10:47] <joe11> im new to linux so
[10:47] <joe11> sudo ?
[10:47] <hobgoblin> how are you trying to install this printer?
[10:48] <joe11> clicking on the deb file
[10:48] <hobgoblin> yea - I understand you are new :)
[10:48] <joe11> deb.sh file
[10:48] <joe11> then i click on run
[10:48] <hobgoblin> ok - then assuming you are the only user and you are using the account you set up ubuntu with then your password should do the job
[10:49] <hobgoblin> deb.sh ? where did you get this driver from? and have you first just tried the printers app in the system preferences menu?
[10:49] <joe11> ya
[10:49] <joe11> cant find drivers
[10:49] <joe11> had dl it
[10:50] <joe11> to
[10:50] <hobgoblin> ok - so where did you get it and what printer is it please
[10:50] <joe11> lexmark pro 705
[10:51] <joe11> from there website
[10:51] <hobgoblin> I thought you were going to say lexmark ... hang on a mo
[10:54] <hobgoblin> joe11: does double clicking open a program called gdebi?
[10:55] <joe11> not that i know of
[10:57] <hobgoblin> joe11: I assume that the file is on the desktop - open a terminal from the apps accessories menu - do cd Des<tab>  - use the Tab key to autocomplete
[10:57] <hobgoblin> then do sudo ./lex<tab>  the thing should run then - it will need your normal password - and it will not show in the terminal as you type - this is normal
[10:59] <hobgoblin> I downloaded the thing and ran it here with no issue
[11:00] <joe11> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[11:02] <hobgoblin> from what command - paste the command which gave the error here please
[11:02] <hobgoblin> morning starcraftman lazybug
[11:05] <hobgoblin> joe11: it installed here - I went through the thing to the detect printer window
[11:05] <joe11> i putting what you told me and it giving a list of things
[11:05] <joe11> in termial
[11:05] <hobgoblin> ok
[11:05] <lazybug> morning
[11:06] <hobgoblin> joe11: it should have opened the lexmark installer - has it?
[11:07] <joe11> nope
[11:07] <joe11> i need root access
[11:08] <hobgoblin> the password still fails then
[11:08] <joe11> ya
[11:08] <joe11> its driving me crazy
[11:08] <joe11> lol
[11:08] <joe11> doesnt make sense
[11:08] <hobgoblin> back to the questions I asked at the beginning which you've not answered - is this the first account on the computer?
[11:09] <joe11> yes
[11:09] <joe11> sorry
[11:09] <hobgoblin> are you using the account you set the system up with
[11:09] <joe11> yes
[11:09] <hobgoblin> in the terminal run sudo -i
[11:09] <hobgoblin> give your password - paste the output you get after the password
[11:12] <joe11> ok now it says root@nathan-desktop
[11:12] <hobgoblin> ok - exit please
[11:12] <hobgoblin> that is type exit and enter
[11:13] <joe11> also sudo -i  would let me type my full password
[11:13] <hobgoblin> I don't want you in there :)
[11:13] <hobgoblin> and sudo ./lex<tab> didnt ?
[11:14] <joe11> it says no such directory
[11:14] <joe11> probably because its in the desktop
[11:14] <hobgoblin> Desktop not desktop
[11:14] <hobgoblin> big big difference
[11:14] <hobgoblin> cd Desktop
[11:15] <hobgoblin> then sudo ./lex<tab> should fill in the whole file name - then enter and it will ask for password again
[11:17] <joe11> damn it keeps saying wrong password but the password works for everthing else
[11:18] <hobgoblin> joe11: please copy everything that is in your terminal - highlight it with the mouse - and I mean everything
[11:18] <joe11> athan@nathan-desktop:~$ cd Desktop
[11:18] <joe11> nathan@nathan-desktop:~/Desktop$  sudo ./lex<tab
[11:18] <joe11> bash: tab: No such file or directory
[11:18] <joe11> nathan@nathan-desktop:~/Desktop$ '/home/nathan/Desktop/lexmark-inkjet-09-driver-1.5-1.i386.deb.sh'
[11:19] <hobgoblin> joe11: try this first chmod +x ~/Desktop/lexmark-inkjet-09-driver-1.5-1.i386.deb.sh
[11:20] <joe11> nathan@nathan-desktop:~/Desktop$  chmod +x ~/Desktop/lexmark-inkjet-09-driver-1.5-1.i386.deb.sh
[11:20] <joe11> nathan@nathan-desktop:~/Desktop$
[11:20] <hobgoblin> please do not paste multiple lines here - use paste.ubuntu.com :)
[11:20] <hobgoblin> joe11: ok now sudo ./lexmark-inkjet-09-driver-1.5-1.i386.deb.sh
[11:20] <drubin> joe11: now run the sudo ./lex<tab> again
[11:22] <joe11> holy crap it work
[11:22] <drubin> ~\o/~
[11:22] <hobgoblin> joe11: woohoo - I didn't need to make the thing executable - no idea why you did
[11:23] <joe11> me either
[11:23] <drubin> hobgoblin: you did sudo bash ./lex<tab>
[11:23] <drubin> where bash is the executable thingy
[11:23] <hobgoblin> drubin: just sudo ./blah
[11:24] <drubin> wooknows
[11:24] <hobgoblin> yep :)
[11:31] <joe11> one more thing how do i install programs from website instead using ubuntu software center
[11:31] <joe11> websites
[13:40] <bobo123> hello
[13:41] <bobo123> I want to copy an ntfs-partition with dd if=/dev/sda1 of=dev_hda1 bs=64K and wonder if I should do something before that command?
[13:42] <bobo123> I havent used that partition yet since I restarted the computer so it isn't mounted, but should I write something to make shure it isn't mounted before the command is done?
[13:56] <bobo123> hi sharles, do you know if it is possible to temporary prevent mounting of a partition?
[14:04] <sharles> don't know, but interested, too, in locking down Ubuntu desktops on network
[14:06] <bobo123> aha
[15:59] <magicj> I want to add a "print to pdf " file printer - I know I have done it in the past and it was easy.  How do I do it
[16:01] <Chesamo> magicj: Ubuntu already has one by default.
[16:02] <magicj> That's what I thought but I do not see it when I chose 'print' nor when I go to system/printing
[16:03] <magicj> solved it - I just needed to install cups-pdf which was not there by default
[16:03] <magicj> oops
[16:03] <magicj> ty anyway
[16:15] <CSiD> Can I get some help with choosing a Linux distro? I have been using linux for 2 years but all the distro's I have been using are very unstable on my hardware
[16:16] <Chesamo> CSiD Well, what kind of hardware are we looking at?
[16:16] <CSiD> 64-bit Dell Inspiron 1750
[16:17] <CSiD> Intel integrated graphics, 2.4dual core Intel processor
[16:17] <CSiD> 6GB RAM
[16:17] <CSiD> Marvell Yukon ethernet
[16:17] <CSiD> Intel pro/wireless
[16:17] <Chesamo> CSiD You can place all of that on one line, you know.
[16:17] <CSiD> SD Card reader
[16:17] <CSiD> sorry, first time on IRC
[16:17] <Chesamo> CSiD Also, which kind of Intel processor?
[16:18] <CSiD> dual core centrino
[16:18] <CSiD> 640bit
[16:18] <CSiD> 64-bit*
[16:18] <Chesamo> CSiD The centrino line is a specification, not a specific CPU.
[16:18] <CSiD> 1 sec I'll check my lshw
[16:18] <Chesamo> CSiD I ask because I'm looking at the product page and they allow the older Pentium Dual CPUs.
[16:19] <CSiD>      *-cpu
[16:19] <CSiD>           description: CPU
[16:19] <CSiD>           product: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     P8600  @ 2.40GHz
[16:19] <CSiD>           vendor: Intel Corp.
[16:19] <CSiD>           physical id: 400
[16:19] <CSiD>           bus info: cpu@0
[16:19] <CSiD>           slot: Microprocessor
[16:19] <CSiD>           size: 1600MHz
[16:19] <CSiD>           capacity: 1600MHz
[16:19] <CSiD>           width: 64 bits
[16:19] <CSiD>           clock: 266MHz
[16:19] <Chesamo> CSiD Don't paste multiple linws
[16:19] <CSiD>           capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx x86-64 constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx smx est tm2 sss
[16:19] <Chesamo> lines*
[16:19] <CSiD> sorry
[16:20] <Chesamo> CSiD If you have multiple lines, use the pastebin http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/
[16:20] <Angus> can someone answer a simple question about resolv.conf for me?
[16:20] <Chesamo> CSiD Your hardware looks simple enough, can you define "unstable" for me?
[16:20] <Chesamo> Angus: Post the question and if anyone knows the answer they'll respond
[16:20] <Angus> thanks
[16:21] <Angus> from my understanding of the file
[16:21] <Angus> the lines that start with nameserver
[16:21] <Chesamo> Angus: If you can, limit it to two lines or less, as well. That makes it easier to read quickly.
[16:21] <CSiD> at random intervals system locks up and screen freezes, fans stil lrun healthily, but no interrupts are received, even plugging in and/or removing power cable doesnt have reactions, and the sound sticks like a broken cd-player
[16:21] <Angus> the ip addresses on those lines are "asked" to convert a url into an ip
[16:22] <CSiD> happened on Debian,Crunchbang, Fedora and OpenSuse
[16:22] <CSiD> all I need is a steady fast development platform for python perl java C C++
[16:22] <Angus> is that accurate and what do the lines that say domain lan and search lan do?
[16:22] <Chesamo> CSiD Have you looked at the kernel logs to try and see what's causing the problem?
[16:22] <Angus> (and sorry for the length
[16:22] <CSiD> where is the file ?
[16:23] <Chesamo> CSiD the dmesg command will bring up the kernel log.
[16:24] <CSiD> [   21.935625] [drm:i915_setparam] *ERROR* unknown parameter 4
[16:25] <Chesamo> CSiD That's a very, very specific error. Context? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/
[16:26] <CSiD> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/445624/
[16:28] <Chesamo> CSiD I see two things, neither of which are definitely going to solve your problem. What distro is this in?
[16:28] <CSiD> crunchbang 9.04 a ubunt uderivative
[16:28] <CSiD> 64 bit*
[16:29] <Chesamo> The first thing I see is that the hardware wireless switch is off
[16:29] <Chesamo> which errors iwconfig
[16:29] <CSiD> I havent used wireless yet
[16:29] <Chesamo> Also I see VLC crasing when it attempts to load the Pulse Audio dynamic library
[16:30] <CSiD> yeah but then starts fine right afterwards and crash timing is unrelated to VLC
[16:31] <CSiD> I dont think it managed to log the crash
[16:31] <Chesamo> CSiD What kernel version are you running
[16:32] <CSiD> pass, its based on Ubuntu Jaunty (9.04)
[16:32] <CSiD> but same occured in the newest Debian
[16:32] <Chesamo> CSiD That's not the question I asked. Paste the output of uname -a
[16:33] <CSiD> sorry
[16:33] <CSiD> Linux andrew-laptop 2.6.28-13-generic #45-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 30 22:12:12 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:34] <Chesamo> CSiD Let me doublecheck something
[16:34] <CSiD> ok
[16:34] <Chesamo> CSiD Have you tried updating to the latest kernel?
[16:35] <CSiD> what command do I run to do that?
[16:35] <Chesamo> CSiD sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[16:36] <CSiD> running atm
[16:36] <Chesamo> CSiD The current kernel version is 2.6.32-22
[16:37] <Chesamo> CSiD For Ubuntu, anyway.
[16:37] <CSiD> says a few more seconds
[16:40] <CSiD> the last line was 'Current status: 7 updates [-16].
[16:40] <CSiD> '
[16:41] <Chesamo> CSiD Did you run both commands?
[16:41] <CSiD> yeah
[16:41] <CSiD> Linux andrew-laptop 2.6.28-13-generic #45-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 30 22:12:12 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:42] <Chesamo> CSiD You have to reboot for a kernel update to take effect.
[16:42] <CSiD> ok, back i na few minutes
[16:43] <magicj> In my over zealousness to clean the desktop I have removed the panel that showed the minimized tasks - so I now have a tendancy to open firefox again since I do not see that it is there - how do I get this back
[16:44] <Chesamo> magicj: Right-click on a Panel > Add to Panel > Window List
[16:45] <CSiD> back
[16:45] <magicj> ty - I knew it would be easy
[16:45] <CSiD> Linux andrew-laptop 2.6.28-19-generic #61-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 26 23:32:46 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:45] <magicj> much appreciated
[16:46] <CSiD> is it just me or did the upgrading kernel not work?
[16:48] <CSiD> Chesamo , I rebooted and he uname -a is still the same
[16:50] <Chesamo> CSiD Run sudo aptitude safe-upgrade and pastebin the output please?
[16:51] <CSiD> wats the lin kto the pastebin again?
[16:51] <Chesamo> CSiD http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/
[16:51] <CSiD> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/445633/
[16:52] <Chesamo> CSiD Interesting... The only thing I can think of is that maybe 9.04 can't upgrade to the latest kernel? It'd be an odd thing but possible...
[16:53] <CSiD> well tbh I am at the point that all I need is to get any Linux distro installed which will not crash in any circumstance while I am just watchign dvd's/listenign to music and programming (new semester starts n 2-3 months and i need ot be accustomed to my ssytem by then)
[16:55] <Chesamo> CSiD Can you not try 10.04? Since you clearly know what you're doing I can happily suggest my personal derivative that removes a lot of the unnecessary tools that most power users don't need
[16:56] <CSiD> well if you could tel lme a derivative that wil lbe light, no games, just enough for what I want then I would be privelidged to know
[16:56] <Chesamo> CSiD http://www.cs.uml.edu/~aveilleu/projects/ubuntu-minimal/
[16:56] <Chesamo> CSiD It's not "light" per se, as it uses GNOME, but it certainly takes fewer resources than the mainline distro
[16:58] <CSiD> so Alternate install cd yeah?
[16:58] <CSiD> downloading now
[16:58] <Chesamo> CSiD Yeah. It takes the command-line install and builds a graphical environment from there.
[16:59] <CSiD> so it takes me directly to a terminal and I just run sud oapt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[16:59] <CSiD> then it lets me instal leverythign I need  and doesnt put anything else on?
[17:00] <Chesamo> CSiD: No. You download a script that I wrote and run that. ubuntu-desktop installs a ton of extra programs that you (in particular) don't want, like games.
[17:00] <CSiD> what script?
[17:01] <Chesamo> CSiD: Read all of the directions. The text version of the script is here: http://www.cs.uml.edu/~aveilleu/projects/ubuntu-minimal/mini.sh.txt
[17:02] <CSiD> impressive script :D
[17:02] <Chesamo> CSiD: That's the second version of it. The first version was atrocious x_x  The project has a Launchpad, if you're interested at all.
[17:03] <CSiD> whats launchpad?
[17:04] <Chesamo> CSiD It's the Canonical-funded project management website. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-desktop-minimal
[17:05] <CSiD> wow, you work on that...awesome.......
[17:05] <CSiD> is there any way I would be able to help?
[17:06] <CSiD> I can write scripts, python,perl,java,some c & C++
[17:06] <CSiD> (Computer Science student)
[17:06] <Chesamo> CSiD: The biggest thing the project needs is a list of software for non-GNOME (ie. KDE, Xfce) environments. The script won't change a whole lot.
[17:06] <Chesamo> CSiD (me too :P )
[17:07] <CSiD> awesome :D
[17:07] <CSiD> I am surprised Rhythmbox isnt there thought
[17:08] <CSiD> it runs perfectly on Gnome with ipod compatibility e.t.c in Ubuntu 10.04
[17:09] <Chesamo> CSiD ....oh man, I totally thought I had that. I'll make an update shortly
[17:09] <CSiD> sorry, I might have missed it, I'll check again
[17:09] <CSiD> couldnt see it, sorry
[17:10] <Chesamo> CSiD Yeah, it's not there. I can probably replace Totem with it, since they're both based on the gstreamer framework
[17:10] <CSiD> I usually installed gstreamer, then I can add or remove anything else knowing gstreamer was there
[17:11] <CSiD> but you might want to add libdvdnav4 and libdvdread3 and libdvdcss
[17:11] <Chesamo> CSiD I believe they get installed as dependencies
[17:12] <CSiD> not from my experience, I have always had to install them from terminal and trigger libdvdcss installation due to being illegal in some countries... I would jsut echo a warning before offering installing them
[17:15] <CSiD> will the wireless and ethernet drivers be there?
[17:15] <Chesamo> CSiD Yes
[17:15] <CSiD> cool :D (had issues before with Fedora and OpenSuse for my ethernet
[17:18] <CSiD> for ipod touch 3rd gen what would I need t isntall? rhythmbox & gtkpod
[17:18] <CSiD> ?
[17:18] <Chesamo> CSiD: as far as I know, the 3rd gen iPod touch is not supported
[17:19] <CSiD> it was supported out of the box in full ubuntu 10.04
[17:19] <CSiD> mounted recognisable and sync through rhythmbox includign playing music directly from the ipod
[17:19] <paultag> CSiD, I have a gen1 iTouch 3.0 firmware, and it borks my lib
[17:19] <paultag> CSiD, what's your issue?
[17:19] <CSiD> 3.1.3
[17:19] <Chesamo> CSiD I've not gotten the 3.0 firmware working
[17:20] <Chesamo> er, 3.1.4? something like that
[17:20] <paultag> Chesamo, it should work out of the box
[17:20] <paultag> I can read my library off rb
[17:20] <Chesamo> 3.1.3
[17:20] <paultag> One sec
[17:20] <Chesamo> Not syncing though
[17:20] <CSiD> 3.1.3 is the newest I know of, I know 4 should be coming out soon to finally enable multiple processes
[17:20] <CSiD> does sync
[17:20] <CSiD> just drag and drop the files from anywhere onto hte ipod icon i nrhythmbox
[17:20] <paultag> I have 3.1.3
[17:20] <paultag> and it syncs
[17:21] <CSiD> I rememebr putting it in to charge and almost fell otu of my seat seein it work
[17:21] <CSiD> lol
 CSiD, I have a gen1 iTouch 3.0 firmware, *and it borks my lib* ?
 CSiD, I have a gen1 iTouch 3.0 firmware, and it borks my lib
[17:21] <paultag> CSiD, hahaha, me too. I remember when it was first working and I patched 9.04
[17:21] <Chesamo> Whoopps. Stupid shift-enter
[17:21] <paultag> Chesamo, 3.0, the 3.1.3 is ok
[17:21] <paultag> Chesamo, erm doh
[17:21] <paultag> Chesamo, 2.0
[17:21] <paultag> erm doh
[17:21] <paultag> 1.1.3
[17:21] <Chesamo> :P
[17:22] <paultag> thats what I Had before I bumped it up XD
[17:22] <CSiD> paultag what do I install o na ubuntu minimal install to get the rhythmbox with syncing e.t.c?
[17:22] <paultag> aye
[17:22] <paultag> CSiD, rhythmbox, libgpod
[17:22] <paultag> CSiD, I think that should do it
[17:22] <CSiD> libgpod, fro mstandard repositories?
[17:23] <paultag> CSiD, aye from 10.04
[17:24] <CSiD> paultag where u from?
[17:24] <paultag> CSiD, USA, Boston
[17:24] <CSiD> I thought was scotland with the aye
[17:24] <CSiD> lol
[17:24] <paultag> CSiD, heh, where are you at?
[17:24] <CSiD> Scotland
[17:26] <paultag> CSiD, ah, no way
[17:26] <CSiD> why no way?
[17:26] <CSiD> lol
[17:26] <paultag> CSiD, not often we get scots in here :)
[17:27] <CSiD> probably because most scots are ignorant and dotn know what linux is, or think is some evil communist shit
[17:28] <CSiD> lol
[17:29] <Chesamo> CSiD Please watch your language
[17:29] <CSiD> sorry
[17:29] <paultag> CSiD, hey man, I'm a communist
[17:29] <CSiD> I agree with communism, jsut soem reason most people dont because they r greedy
[17:30] <paultag> so we kill the ones who take too much >:D
[17:30] <CSiD> lol, I think thats what they fear
[17:30] <paultag> aye, that's how it's carried it's self out in the past -- but what is GNU / Linux besides Marxism?
[17:31] <paultag> there is no private ownership of code, take what you want, give what you can
[17:31] <paultag> anarcho-syndicate marxist communie
[17:31] <CSiD> definitely
[17:32] <paultag> CSiD, did you get libgpod and rb in place?
[17:32] <CSiD> stil ldownloading 10.04 minimal iso
[17:32] <paultag> ah, righto
[17:32] <CSiD> on crunchabng 9.04 atm and it doesnt recognise them
[17:32] <paultag> ah, yeah, of course
[17:33] <paultag> Oh shoot
[17:34] <paultag> CSiD, sudo apt-get install rhythmbox rhythmbox-plugins
[17:34] <paultag> CSiD, that will depend on libgpod and handle getting that in place
[17:35] <CSiD> I'll put that i nthe script right now , thanks dude :D
[17:35] <paultag> CSiD, sure mate. Good luck
[17:37] <CSiD> if I put the script on the instal lcd as "ubuntu-beginners-script.sh" it shouldnt affect the installation should it (would save me mounting)
[17:37] <paultag> CSiD, no, but how are you planning on doing that?
[17:37] <paultag> CSiD, you should not have a file called "xyz.iso" on the disk, that is a disk image that should be extracted onto the disk
[17:38] <CSiD> open the iso in archive manager, add the .sh i na folder, then burn the iso
[17:38] <CSiD> I know
[17:38] <CSiD> lol
[17:39] <CSiD> would the minimal include perl and python?
[17:39] <paultag> Ah
[17:39] <paultag> CSiD, I don't think so
[17:40] <paultag> CSiD, and anything you apt-get on the CD won't be extracted to the HD
[17:40] <CSiD> if I run it fro mthe HD
[17:40] <paultag> CSiD, then you should have perl and python, I think
[17:40] <CSiD> I could run it fro mhome directory, script loaded to ram, then it will use my cwd which is home to depict hte drive is the hd I think
[17:41] <paultag> CSiD, sudo chroot
[17:41] <CSiD> I am runnign through anything I should add to the script....
[17:41] <CSiD> the rhythmbox stuff,libdvdnav4, libdvdread3, dvdcss, netbeans, gcc
[17:41] <Chesamo> Well, CSiD, I'm rebuilding the script now
[17:42] <Chesamo> CSiD if you want to wait until I've finished with that... libdvdnav, libdvdread etc are covered by ubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:42] <CSiD> brb
[17:44] <CSiD> so ubuntu-restricted-extras and al I need for dvd's is to run the css script?
[17:44] <Chesamo> CSiD Yes, as far as I know. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[17:45] <Chesamo> CSiD But if you install VLC Media Player it'll be able to play DVDs out of the box... I think
[17:45] <CSiD> well al lI need now is to enable flash then go for supepr then instal lit all :D
[17:46] <Chesamo> CSiD ubuntu-restricted-extras installs Flash too
[17:46] <CSiD> perfect
[17:47] <CSiD> right I'm of to have supper then prepare hte iso, I'll let you all know how it goes once I have it up and running, cya's
[18:26] <Chesamo> Quick question about shell scripting. If I $sudo ./script.sh , then I won't need to sudo in the script, correct?
[18:26] <drubin> Chesamo: yes
[18:27] <Chesamo> thanks, drubin
[18:27]  * drubin goes to fix his netbeans
[18:52] <Chesamo> Question about aptitude/apt-get. Is it possible to install sun-java6-jre without the license prompt?
[18:52] <botot> hi, i'm trying to forward gui windows from a ubuntu machine to a windows machine running cygwin
[18:53] <botot> but i got the error saying : No Display specified
[18:53] <botot> and if i use -X in ssh
[18:53] <botot> I got: Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[18:53] <Chesamo> botot: what ssh client are you using?
[18:53] <botot> I installed the cygwin
[18:53] <botot> and I guess the openssh
[18:54] <botot> but i got the same thing when using putty
[18:54] <Chesamo> botot did you install X/Cygwin? http://x.cygwin.com/
[18:54] <botot> no...
[18:54] <botot> should i install it?
[18:55] <Chesamo> botot if you want to forward your X session, yes.
[18:55] <botot> so should I uninstall the current cygwin i have?
[18:56] <Chesamo> botot: Not sure, cygwin isn't something I usually play with. I'd imagine X/Cygwin installs its version of Cygwin.
[18:56] <botot> I see
[18:56] <botot> Thanks Chesamo! another question: do you recommend using other ssh client on windows?
[18:57] <Chesamo> botot If you're forwarding X? I'd stick with Xterm (which will be installed with X/Cygwin). I use PuTTY in my normal use, but like I said... I don't forward my X session since I can just use VBox and normally SSH in.
[18:58] <botot> sorry... but what does VBox do?
[18:59] <Chesamo> botot VBox = VirtualBox, a program that runs virtual computers. I run Ubuntu underneath Windows when I need to log into remote Ubuntu systems.
[18:59] <botot> I see..
[19:00] <botot> I'll look into that and see whether I can use it and just go without X
[19:00] <botot> really new to this and have little idea about the difference between all these options
[19:01] <Chesamo> botot Yeah, I just use VBx because it's the simplest solution. Not the most elegant, but the simplest.
[19:01] <botot> I see
[19:04] <botot> it seems like i intsalled the cygwin/X before
[19:04] <botot> i'll go through the installation again and see if I dropped something...
[19:58] <insanity99> hey guys, can anyone give me information on 'mono'? i need it to apply a mod on heroes of newerth. thanks
[19:59] <Chesamo> insanity99 Mono is a set of libraries like Microsoft.NET.
[20:00] <holstein> hmmm
[20:00] <holstein> !mono
[20:00] <ubot2> Factoid 'mono' not found
[20:00] <holstein> oh well
[20:01] <Chesamo> insanity99 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mono_(software)
[20:01] <holstein> Chesamo: !mono
[20:01] <insanity99> hmmm so is it legal?
[20:01] <holstein> ;)
[20:01] <Chesamo> insanity99: I.... don't see wny not <_<
[20:02] <Chesamo> holstein But that didn't work :(
[20:02] <holstein> :/
[20:02] <Chesamo> why**
[20:02] <insanity99> some stuff about microsoft patents
[20:03] <insanity99> think microsoft is pissed about it lol
[20:03] <insanity99> !mono
[20:03] <ubot2> Factoid 'mono' not found
[20:03] <Chesamo> insanity99: Mono is FOSS. Also Ubuntu comes with Mono installed by default. http://www.mono-project.com/DistroPackages/Ubuntu
[20:04] <insanity99> ok thanks guys
[20:05] <insanity99> so it can kinda work like wine yeah?
[20:06] <holstein> hmmm
[20:06] <holstein> you mean by running windows programs?
[20:06] <holstein> no
[20:06] <insanity99> i used it to run an .exe though
[20:07] <Chesamo> insanity99: No, mono is just a similar implementation. It also has a C# compiler, if you want to compile a program written in C#.
[20:07] <holstein> i think of it as an opensource .NET clone
[20:07] <Chesamo> insanity99... um, that's not how it works.
[20:07] <Chesamo> insanity99 Mono isn't a single program. It's a set of libraries.
[20:08] <insanity99> ok
[20:09] <insanity99> here is a link: http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=92797 this has you use mono to launch a .exe file
[20:10] <Chesamo> insanity99: It compiles the C# program using the Mono libraries
[20:10] <insanity99> oh ok thanks again
[20:30] <Msnbc> When I boot I get a message saying i am missing modules and that it's dropping to a shell. It says the module is "cat / proc / modules; ls/dev" Followed by an alert "/dev/disk/by-uuid/8c789..." What do I do?
[20:42] <Chesamo> Msnbc: It sounds like your discs aren't being mounted properly. What's the entire line of the "/dev/disk/by-uuid/" line?
[20:46] <Msnbc> "dev/disk/by-uuid/8c789b3d-18b-470d-822b-3592fc7092g does not exist"
[20:47] <Chesamo> Msnbc: Have you changed drives since you've installed Ubuntu?
[20:47] <Msnbc> Chesamo: No
[20:48] <Chesamo> Msnbc: Hm... Well, Ubuntu believes this to be true. When you get to the Terminal, run sudo update-grub and reboot. See if that does the trick.
[20:52] <Msnbc> Chesamo: What should have happened? It gave me a list of errors - cannot open '/dev/sda' while attempting to get disk size
[20:54] <Chesamo> Msnbc, Yikes, not that. It seems like what it believes to be /dev/sda is no longer there.
[20:54] <Msnbc> Chesamo: What does that mean?
[20:55] <Chesamo> Msnbc: Either your drive died (unlikely, since you have the recovery shell) or something got changed internally. Did BIOS recently get changed? Did you move around cables?
[20:59] <Msnbc> Chesamo: I haven't done anything to my laptop in a long time. On  the software side I just upgraded from karma to lynx
[21:52] <obiwan_> hey guys
[21:56] <obiwan_> Ive got a problem... I attempted to install the lastest version of ubuntu on a portable hard drive, everything went fine until I restarted my laptop. It gives me this message "error: no such device: really long number. grub rescue". Even when I change the boot order back to my laptop hard drive it gives me this messsage and I have tried to boot off the ubuntu cd a bunch of times but that doesn't work either.
[21:58] <ZachK_> obiwan_: ok when you install to a portable drive you have to remove the main drive from the computer...my quess is that you did not correct?
[21:59] <obiwan_> yea
[21:59] <obiwan_> i did no
[21:59] <obiwan_> t
[22:00] <ZachK_> ok...yeah when you make an external drive bootable like a regular hard drive the internal one or main hard drive in the pc MUST be removed
[22:00] <ZachK_> otherwise it will cause booting issues...
[22:00] <ZachK_> kinda like sticking two brains in one person's head
[22:01] <obiwan_> ok
[22:02] <obiwan_> is there anyway to fix these booting issues?
[22:04] <ZachK_> Ah i know there is i just can't think of it...i actually have to go mow my lawn before it rains...(got my personal rain forest outside) but i wanted to get you before you gave up
[22:05] <ZachK_> obiwan_: or you can join #ubuntu
[22:05] <obiwan_> ok thanks for the lesson and the help
[23:52] <buzzard> My dear sweet 75 year old mother has hosed her Win laptop once again. While I recover it I would like to install an Ubuntu partition. Can I set it to automatically boot to the Guest account?
[23:54] <Phrea> if that guest account is the primary user, I think you can
[23:55] <buzzard> I would use my account to install and administer it, but have it boot into the guest account for her
[23:55] <Phrea> not very sure tho, wait for somebody with actual brains to answer your question
[23:55] <Phrea> I think it should work, with your account having no auto login
[23:55] <buzzard> :)  thanks for the  support, it seems like it should be possible
[23:56] <ZachK_> who wants to do what and why?
[23:56] <Phrea> but please, wait for somebody who knows for sure
[23:56] <Phrea> like him :D
[23:56] <ZachK_> lol
[23:56] <mininessie> how do i pleasure a girl
[23:57] <Phrea> find her price
[23:57] <ZachK_> !topic | mininessie
[23:57] <ubot2> mininessie: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[23:57] <ZachK_> !ot | mininessie
[23:57] <ubot2> mininessie: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!
[23:58] <ZachK_> mininessie: i will say this though...pleasuring a girl and how depends upon your gender....
[23:58] <ZachK_> ok buzzard what's up
[23:59] <buzzard> ZachK: My mother has hosed her Win laptop once again. While I recover it I would like to install an Ubuntu partition. Can I set it to automatically boot to the Guest account?