| hggdh | chelz: no problem we still welcome your help :-) | 00:27 |
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| chelz | yeah i'm trying to keep up with the bugs i've posted on. i only started yesterday but i clicked the subscribe stuff. | 00:28 |
| chelz | it is hard to try to keep interest for a bug if it's no long affecting me though, heh | 00:28 |
| penguin42 | yeh, Iv'e got a few that take some effort to reproduce these days even if they were an everyday occurence at the time I reported them | 00:32 |
| penguin42 | yeuch I wonder where that's coming from - chromium trying to access usr/share/fonts - not /usr/share/fonts | 00:40 |
| hggdh | well, there are many other bugs to be looked at, anyway | 01:27 |
| marti1125 | hello :D | 02:12 |
| chelz | yeah. lots of bugs, not much time | 02:13 |
| marti1125 | i am new :D | 02:15 |
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| drew212 | damnit, i need a notepad in launchpad, i have a few bugs i'm working on but i want to add some personal upstream bug links to it for reference... | 07:53 |
| micahg | drew212: there are a few postit programs for your desktop | 07:54 |
| drew212 | i know... | 07:54 |
| drew212 | but i want it in launchpad so i can see it when i'm looking at the bug... | 07:54 |
| micahg | drew212: there's probably a FF addon for that | 07:54 |
| drew212 | because this bug bug 590285 may be related to adobe FF-2411 | 07:55 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 590285 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Firefox closes all opened windows when moving mouse (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/590285 | 07:55 |
| micahg | drew212: please don't tell people to install flash 10.1 | 07:56 |
| drew212 | =(, thats what the upstreams are saying... | 07:56 |
| drew212 | https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-2411 | 07:56 |
| micahg | drew212: sure, but it makes our job harder, that's what upstreams usually do | 07:56 |
| micahg | *usually as in try the latest trunk build :) | 07:57 |
| drew212 | lol | 07:57 |
| drew212 | how does it make our job harder? | 07:57 |
| drew212 | if its a flash issue and it's fixed in their new release shouldn't it be installed? | 07:57 |
| micahg | drew212: manually installed files make debugging later harder | 07:57 |
| drew212 | oh | 07:58 |
| drew212 | well my system is a debugging nightmare =D | 07:58 |
| micahg | drew212: as in, when we update, we have to go get people to uninstall the manual stuff | 07:58 |
| drew212 | i compile practically everything from source, i thought it was better that way | 07:58 |
| micahg | drew212: after 10.1 is packaged, we can make a PPA for people to test from | 07:58 |
| micahg | drew212: not from a triage perspective :) | 07:58 |
| drew212 | :-X, sorry | 07:59 |
| micahg | drew212: as for that bug, the best thing probably would have been to ask for an apport crash report | 07:59 |
| micahg | drew212: we learn from experience :) | 07:59 |
| drew212 | i know, but i cant get a damn thing right =D | 07:59 |
| drew212 | its like spray and pray... | 07:59 |
| drew212 | maybe i'll hit something soon | 08:00 |
| micahg | that upstream bug is hit or miss anyways | 08:00 |
| micahg | I have 32 bit flash running fine, we don't package 64 bit anyways | 08:00 |
| drew212 | im pretty sure i'm running 64, how do i check? | 08:00 |
| micahg | about:plugins | 08:00 |
| drew212 | about=.Plugins minus the period? | 08:01 |
| micahg | drew212: just copy and paste :) | 08:01 |
| atrus | there still isn't a 64-bit release that's non-"alpha", and there still isn't a 64-bit version of 10.1 afaik. | 08:01 |
| micahg | atrus: correct | 08:02 |
| drew212 | micahg: it says command not found =X | 08:02 |
| micahg | atrus: last press release I saw said sometime after the 10.1 release | 08:02 |
| atrus | i've been using gnash more recently. it's slow, but at least it doesn't crash, or take 100% cpu with npwrapper. | 08:02 |
| micahg | drew212: about : plugins w/out spaces | 08:02 |
| drew212 | micahg: in terminal? cuz its not working | 08:02 |
| micahg | drew212: no, in firefox | 08:03 |
| drew212 | rotfl | 08:03 |
| micahg | drew212: did you install a .deb? | 08:03 |
| drew212 | i dont remember | 08:03 |
| drew212 | i have shockwave flash, but nothing else... | 08:04 |
| micahg | drew212: dpkg -l | grep flash | 08:04 |
| drew212 | should i paste the output? | 08:04 |
| micahg | drew212: pastebin | 08:04 |
| drew212 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/445469/ | 08:05 |
| micahg | drew212: that's the 32 bit version | 08:05 |
| drew212 | hmm... | 08:05 |
| drew212 | i swore i installed the 64 bit back when i intsalled 9.04 64 bit | 08:06 |
| micahg | drew212: package is 64 bit, but flash isn't | 08:06 |
| micahg | drew212: you can check about:plugins | 08:06 |
| drew212 | i did, there is nothing about adobe flash player in here... | 08:06 |
| micahg | drew212: try a CTRL + F for flash | 08:07 |
| drew212 | has shockwave flash two times | 08:07 |
| drew212 | thats it | 08:07 |
| micahg | drew212: shockwave flash is it | 08:08 |
| drew212 | shockwave is adobe? | 08:08 |
| micahg | drew212: yes | 08:08 |
| micahg | drew212: they bought it :) | 08:08 |
| drew212 | oh, lol | 08:08 |
| drew212 | micahg: it doesnt say much =P | 08:09 |
| micahg | drew212: it gives you path/to/file :) | 08:10 |
| drew212 | lol, it does? | 08:10 |
| micahg | drew212: what version of FF? | 08:10 |
| drew212 | 3.6.3 | 08:11 |
| micahg | should give you /path/to/file :) | 08:11 |
| micahg | oh wait, I guess it doesn't :) | 08:11 |
| drew212 | micahg: i was going to say, it only has the file name | 08:11 |
| micahg | drew212: I'm thinking of the apport hook :) | 08:12 |
| drew212 | <--boggle | 08:12 |
| micahg | we1rd22? | 08:12 |
| drew212 | micahg: i still have tons to learn :-X | 08:13 |
| micahg | drew212: almost as much as I had to learn when I started doing this last year :) | 08:13 |
| drew212 | micahg: i know what apport is but i don't know what the hook is | 08:13 |
| micahg | drew212: it attaches the plugins file to the bugs that are reported w/apport | 08:14 |
| drew212 | ok | 08:14 |
| micahg | drew212: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/firefox-3.6.head/annotate/head:/debian/apport/firefox.py if you're interested | 08:14 |
| drew212 | the file already exhists... | 08:16 |
| drew212 | hmm... | 08:16 |
| micahg | drew212: ? | 08:16 |
| drew212 | i tried dropping the file into the folder but it already exhists... | 08:16 |
| micahg | drew212: yeah, you have a copy on your system | 08:17 |
| drew212 | replace? | 08:17 |
| micahg | drew212: no, I was just showing you the contents | 08:17 |
| drew212 | oh, lol | 08:17 |
| drew212 | i thought it was a patch =P | 08:20 |
| micahg | drew212: no, that's the file in our branch :) | 08:20 |
| drew212 | micahg: figured that out | 08:20 |
| drew212 | micahg: don't you live in the chicago area? | 08:21 |
| micahg | drew212: yes, why? | 08:21 |
| drew212 | micahg: i'm about 2 hours west of chicago, we need to get together and you need to upload everything you know to me | 08:21 |
| drew212 | lol | 08:21 |
| micahg | heh | 08:21 |
| micahg | drew212: maybe you can come to one of our loco events :) | 08:22 |
| drew212 | micahg: when is the next one? | 08:22 |
| drew212 | <-- should probably look for himself on the wiki | 08:22 |
| micahg | drew212: idk, feel free to join us in #ubuntu-chicago | 08:22 |
| micahg | drew212: can you change to request on bug 590285 to be create a one time apport crash? | 08:32 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 590285 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Firefox closes all opened windows when moving mouse (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/590285 | 08:32 |
| drew212 | sure | 08:32 |
| drew212 | should i tell them to use the apport-collect <bug #>? | 08:34 |
| micahg | drew212: no, let me see if we have a response for this | 08:35 |
| drew212 | ok | 08:35 |
| drew212 | i didn't find one... | 08:36 |
| micahg | drew212: there's this, but I don't like it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#Missing%20a%20crash%20report%20or%20having%20a%20.crash%20attachment | 08:36 |
| drew212 | should i close the report then? | 08:37 |
| drew212 | didn't he report the bug with apport? | 08:37 |
| micahg | drew212: yes, but there are apport bug reports and then there are apport crash reports | 08:38 |
| micahg | drew212: we need a crash reprot | 08:39 |
| micahg | *report | 08:39 |
| * micahg should fix the wiki, maybe tomorrow | 08:39 | |
| micahg | drew212: I'll pastebin what I use | 08:39 |
| micahg | drew212: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/445479/ | 08:40 |
| drew212 | ok | 08:40 |
| micahg | drew212: that way apport isn't permanently enabled | 08:40 |
| * micahg is very behind on bugs | 08:41 | |
| drew212 | micahg: i'm tryin to help =) | 08:41 |
| micahg | drew212: I appreciate it :) | 08:41 |
| drew212 | seems like i'm creating more work than i'm worth tho :-/ | 08:41 |
| micahg | drew212: nah, you're fine | 08:41 |
| drew212 | micahg: well i'm off to bed, i'll triage some more tomorrow | 08:42 |
| micahg | drew212: also, our (Mozilla team) wiki docs are pretty outdated, I have on the list for this cycle to revamp | 08:42 |
| micahg | drew212: k, night | 08:42 |
| vish | micahg: you are currently mentoring drew212 , right? need to update the mentors wiki.. | 08:56 |
| * vish needs to update | 08:56 | |
| micahg | vish: sort of | 08:56 |
| vish | hmm , the borderline , heh ;p | 08:57 |
| micahg | vish: WRT Firefox bugs | 08:57 |
| vish | micahg: yeah , it was one of his interests [other is kernel] > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/drew212 | 08:58 |
| micahg | vish: ah | 09:01 |
| vish | hmm , we probably need to sort out how we mentor such students , /dual/ interests , maybe one mentor for a month and then a kernel mentor for the rest , and so on | 09:01 |
| micahg | vish: well, could be both at the same time, mentor WRT bug control should be more general, whereas mentor WRT teams can be more specific | 09:03 |
| micahg | vish: i.e., person working on FF bug pings me, person working on kernel bug pings kernel person | 09:03 |
| vish | micahg: yeah , but if for ex: the above mentee , he has dual interests , and he *probably* wont work on both kernel and FF bugs on the same day , assigning 2 mentors for one mentee , is difficult to keep a balance , also , if we assign too many mentees for a mentor in one month then mentor might get overworked , and | 09:07 |
| micahg | vish: depends | 09:07 |
| vish | the next month might not have any mentees , .. yeah , it depends | 09:07 |
| CynthiaG | I don't know where to begin investigating this bug, or which package to report it against, because I think Nautilus and Eye of GNOME use the same SVG render library. What to do? They say a picture is worth a thousand words, so I have a screenshot: -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v390/Looce/img-launchpad/svg-rendering-unusual.png -- the .svg-opt files are supposed to be rendered identically to the .svg's, using Scour by codedread | 09:15 |
| CynthiaG | They render identically in Eye of GNOME, and identically to the .svg non-opt version in Nautilus, but Nautilus' version for the -opt's... looks like crumpled paper. | 09:17 |
| CynthiaG | What I've tried is purging the thumbnails and refreshing Nautilus, but not logout-login yet or killing Nautilus. | 09:24 |
| CynthiaG | Never mind my question. In double-checking that Nautilus and Eye of GNOME were using the same library, I used 'pmap `pidof PROGNAME`' and saw that Nautilus was referring to a deleted library. | 09:27 |
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| AdeGoodyer | Please could someone mark Bug #513069 as triaged for me. Many thanks. | 14:31 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 513069 in linux (Ubuntu) "ATI Technologies Inc RS880 Audio Device [Radeon HD 4200] very erratic (affects: 1) (dups: 1) (heat: 28)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/513069 | 14:31 |
| AdeGoodyer | Could someone also mark Bug #510138 as Triaged as well. Thankyou. | 14:36 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 510138 in kdebase-runtime (Ubuntu) "On laptop Acer Aspire 1810TZ, brightness switch changes brightness twice (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 24)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/510138 | 14:36 |
| vish | AdeGoodyer: linux and kde have a different workflow , might be better to check with them first.. eitherway , linux packages need to be tested with upstream kernels too , [and also probably reported upstream] before being marked triaged | 14:39 |
| AdeGoodyer | Ok vsih I will go back and have a look. Thanks for the advise. | 14:43 |
| vish | AdeGoodyer: yup , kernel , tested + reported upstream = triaged > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BugTriage | 14:59 |
| * penguin42 wonders how to get the trivial bug of bug 483833 fixed, I've put a patch in there, and there are patches about a year old up in debian, it doesn't seem to be hard to solve | 15:31 | |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 483833 in lsof (Debian) (and 1 other project) "lsof manpage is garbled (affects: 3) (heat: 18)" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/483833 | 15:31 |
| vish | penguin42: poke someone on #ubuntu-reviews ? | 15:33 |
| penguin42 | what's #ubuntu-reviews? | 15:33 |
| vish | penguin42: to speed up the review of patches and try to get them processed | 15:35 |
| penguin42 | oh ok, didn't know about that one | 15:35 |
| penguin42 | oh this is a neat bug: bug 494616 | 15:42 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 494616 in cairo-clock (Ubuntu) "Antique clock face shows 4 as IV rather than IIII . (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/494616 | 15:42 |
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| xelister | he new ubuntu Lucid + lucid-updates + lucid-proposed is AWESOME.. | 21:31 |
| xelister | that in totally incredible | 21:31 |
| xelister | you can actually SEND and RECEIVE email in it! wow. | 21:31 |
| xelister | and it even does not crash every time. This is a miletstone achivement | 21:31 |
| xelister | (in opposite to what it does in regular Lucid - kmail) | 21:32 |
| xelister | just 2 weeks of work and it is again possible to use the email in Lucid. And I was affraid there would be some problems after upgrade | 21:34 |
| kklimonda | xelister: why the sarcasm? | 21:41 |
| BUGabundo | lol | 21:42 |
| xelister | kklimonda: because the 2 weeks | 21:45 |
| jpds | xelister: You should upgrade to GNOME. | 21:46 |
| xelister | like 3-4 CRITICAL bugs, each of them makes kmail (flagship email app) totally unusable (100% always crashes) | 21:46 |
| xelister | jpds: I use gnome | 21:46 |
| xelister | first it was ALWAYS crashing on startup, then ALWAYS crashing on other computer, then ALWAYS crashing while receiving any email | 21:47 |
| xelister | and finally, ALWAYS crashing when sending any email | 21:47 |
| xelister | causes: akonadi, akonadi, akonadi(?) or some lib incompatiblity - disabling filters halped, akonadi(?) or some lib incompatibility - using lucid-proposed helped | 21:48 |
| xelister | and bug "kmail always slow downs computer around x10" was caused by Nepomuk | 21:48 |
| kklimonda | xelister: but it's not like sarcastic remarks actually help or motivate us to work harder. -proposed helped? that's great, add your comment to the bug so it can be marked as verified and move forward. | 21:49 |
| xelister | imho we must push then that proposed libs into lucid for kmail | 21:49 |
| xelister | otherwise its useless | 21:49 |
| jpds | xelister: So; do what kklimonda said.. | 21:50 |
| xelister | today Im a bit too busy with other work actually. perhaps tommorow. but if you are maintainig bugs about kmail then the above info can be usefull | 21:50 |
| BUGabundo | xelister: so because you are busy, you will make so many other users continue to "suffer" from a faulty kmail ? | 21:51 |
| Pici | This channel isn't for complaining about bugs, its for triaging and debugging them. | 21:52 |
| arand | Does anyone have some time over to sponsor Bug #581331 (sru:s, in order that we can restore functionality for msn...) | 22:30 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 581331 in bitlbee (Ubuntu Karmic) (and 6 other projects) "error message while trying to use my MSN account in bitlbee (affects: 6) (heat: 186)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/581331 | 22:30 |
| micahg | arand: you might have better luck in -motu | 22:57 |
| arand | micahg: Awhoops :/ | 22:57 |
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