[00:33] <sircolin> can someone help me with nuvexport, everything is disabled in lucid 64, do i need to recompile it ?
[00:35] <tgm4883> sircolin, nuvexport isn't supported anymore. Check out mythexport and see if it fulfills your needs
[00:37] <sircolin> ok thanks, i though something was going there, since my upgrade i guess i may as well remove it then i will have a read up now thanks.
[00:44] <dododoo> hey guys
[00:44] <tgm4883> !hi
[00:44] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about hi
[00:45] <dododoo> I have been running mythbuntu for a while, in the upgrade to 10.4, it broke apache2 is there an easy way to uninstall apache, php, etc and use like mythweb to reinstall and setup everything properly?
[00:46] <dododoo> apache2 wont start
[00:46] <dododoo> Invalid command 'php_value', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration
[00:47] <dododoo> not sure what that means
[00:48] <tgm4883> dododoo, odd. you could apt-get remove mythweb, apache2, php, then reinstall mythweb
[00:48] <tgm4883> or
[00:48] <tgm4883> you could try just doing a dpkg-reconfigure apache2
[00:48] <tgm4883> and maybe a dpkg-reconfigure mythweb
[00:48] <dododoo> okay...I'll give it a shot
[00:54] <dododoo> weird, I tried it both ways...first way last
[00:54] <dododoo> it gave me at the end of installing mythweb: Setting up mythweb (0.23.0+fixes24104-0ubuntu2) ...
[00:54] <dododoo> Your apache2 configuration is broken, so we're not restarting it for you.
[00:55] <dododoo> i tried a sudo apt-get --purge remove apache2  :(
[01:03] <dododoo> fixed it
[01:03] <dododoo> ;)
[01:25] <[R]> so the mythbuntu patches to myth removed the ability to use a shutdown command... yet my default mythbunut install is failing with all the dbus methods
[03:08] <puff> Does this look like a mythbuntu-supported card? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131325
[03:08] <Zinn> [www.newegg.com] Newegg.com - POWERCOLOR AP4350 512MD2-H Radeon HD 4350 512MB 64-bit DDR2 PCI HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
[03:09] <puff> It's the only one I've found that's PCI and has HDMI-out.
[03:29] <mrand> puff: I wouldn't personally pay that much for a PCI card, especially an ATI.
[03:32] <mrand> Of course, I'd probably be shopping on ebay, where used cards are available.
[11:45] <Fudge> hi, wondering if anyone here  maybe who has myth in a vm is willing to run a script which transforms a ubuntu to vinux which is a fork of ubuntu that is modified for visually impaired. Id like to know if it will work on mythbuntu so I can setup a pvr
[13:05] <Daviey> Fudge: Why not just try it? :)
[13:05] <Fudge> hard to install
[13:05] <Fudge> cant see the screen
[13:06] <mrand> Fudge: Mythbuntu's fonts too small?
[13:09] <mrand> Fudge, rather than converting Mythbuntu to vinux, I'd be tempted to add the mythtv packages to vinux.
[13:16] <Fudge> no fact i have like 3% eyesight
[13:16] <Fudge> good idea ill look at converting one
[13:17] <Fudge> it would be nice for the blind to have an accessible myth system to be able to fallback to cli if needed
[13:26] <mrand> Fudge: since MythTV is fully themeable, if the existing themes are not acceptable, someone could modify one or more of them.  If someone does that, it would be good to submit it back upstream to the Mythtv project (unknown if they'd accept it, but it should at least be submitted there so that it has a chance of being kept up-to-date).
[13:27] <Fudge> its more if orca works with myth I think, but I see what you mean about the visual themes too
[13:36] <mrand> Fudge: Ah!  I was thinking about something that could be used with a remote control (i.e., without a mouse).  But that may only make sense if there is some distance between the veiwer and the tv screen.
[13:39] <Fudge> you can open orca by typing orca into the run box, see if it speaks when the remote is selecting stuff?
[13:42] <mrand> Fudge: booting my test system... let's see here.
[13:46] <Fudge> sweet
[13:50] <mrand> Fudge: Does orca work with x.f.c.e.?  Doesn't seem to do much on this system.  Hold while I reboot into gnome.
[13:55] <Fudge> oh no it doesnt out of the box
[13:55] <Fudge> i believe some ppl can make some stuff work but not desktop icons but its with mods
[13:55] <Fudge> same with lxde knoppix made that very accessible but otherwise a normal lxde desktop orca will hardly speak
[13:56] <Fudge> sry mate in other windows highlight me :)
[14:00] <mrand> Fudge: no problem.  Oh neat.... Orca is cool... reads everything and even tells you which window is active.  Unfortunately it doesn't work with Myth menu's.  Off hand, do you know what it would take for an application to support Orca?  I also tried  the Ubuntu accessability thing at login, but it appears to do absolutely nothing.
[14:00] <Fudge> is it gtk?
[14:01] <mrand> Fudge: Um, no, I don't think so.
[14:01] <Fudge> i think qt4 apps arent to friendly but gtk is suppose to be
[14:01] <mrand> It uses QT mostly
[14:01] <Fudge> dont know to much about the tech stuff about it
[14:01] <Fudge> well maybe when gnome3 come sout it will be accessible
[14:02] <mrand> This is definintely a QT4 ap
[14:02] <mrand> That's in 10.10, right?
[14:02] <Fudge> yeah i think it is actually
[14:02] <Fudge> read somewhere september so that sounds bout right
[14:02] <mrand> Fudge: They are shooting for Oct 10, 2010
[14:02]  * mrand ponders installing alpha 1
[14:03] <Fudge> hopefully the myth team  dev test it with orca anyway, im guessing they would already
[14:03] <Fudge> ooh alphas are fun
[14:03] <Fudge> if i could actually see to isntall stuff and play id have so much fun
[14:03] <mrand> Fudge: the myth team is very overloaded, so unfortunately I would expect they don't.
[14:05] <mrand> Fudge: found a post on the Orca mailing list that they are hoping for QT support in gnome3
[14:05] <Fudge> yep thats right
[14:06] <mrand> Fudge: I guess orca doesn't work well in a virtual machine?
[14:06] <Fudge> it should do
[14:06] <Fudge> doesnt put much loads on really but if youre getting glitchy sound its more likely the sound daemon
[14:07] <Fudge> vinux is running system wide pulseaudio and lots of other tweaks and mods
[14:07] <Fudge> grab one of the isos and myth it :D
[14:07] <mrand> You could always install the alpha 1 in a VM.
[14:07] <Fudge> comes back to answering the install questions though
[14:08] <Fudge> id be very willing to do it if i could install it but sometiems it means asking someoen fo rhelp and then if they are computer savi enough to understand etc etc
[14:08] <Fudge> or if there are vbox images available with it installed well there thatd be great too
[14:09] <mrand> Fudge: I wonder if vinux has a 10.10 alpha build.
[14:11] <mrand> Not that I can find.
[14:11] <Fudge> no not yet mate we sut released lucid
[14:12] <Fudge> 3alphas and 6rcs
[14:12] <Fudge> ltos of bugs to iron out
[14:12] <Fudge> coem from upstream
[14:12] <Fudge> but its all abotu trying to put out somethign decent
[14:14] <mrand> Fudge: I can imagine the challenge.
[14:15] <Fudge> but it pays off though mate
[14:15] <Fudge> i was a windows/freebsd user before vinux and now im soully ubuntu vinux
[14:15] <Fudge> all my systems in the house are vinux even my imac
[14:15] <Fudge> so glad to get something that everyone expects and takes for granted and thats the console
[14:17] <mrand> oops, my daughter just woke up, so lost my test system for now.
[14:17] <mrand> Fudge: you sound capable enough, you should have someone help you get a second install going in a VM so that you can experiment.  I would imagine it could be scripted even.
[14:18] <Fudge> i think i migth  mate, my first object is to get windows xp up in one so i can continue my mirc with speech scritp development and nlite images i make
[14:21] <Fudge> thankyou cobber
[14:22] <mrand> hmmm... not aware of the "cobber" term
[14:22] <mrand> cobber (n): Austral and NZ informal a friend; mate: used as a term of address to males
[14:23] <mrand> Fudge: you're welcome ;-)
[14:23] <mrand> Daviey:  you're a cobber!
[16:57] <sircolin> im just trying to get my head around mythexport, is mythexport able to export to xvid or is it just able to export to an ipod format as standard ?
[19:39] <extasy> My mythbackend refuses to start and in mythbackend.log I get this error 2010-06-06 17:51:16.500 mythbackend version: branches/release-0-23-fixes [24836] www.mythtv.org
[19:39] <extasy> 2010-06-06 17:51:16.562 Using runtime prefix = /usr
[19:39] <extasy> 2010-06-06 17:51:16.612 Using configuration directory = /.mythtv
[19:39] <extasy> 2010-06-06 17:51:16.662 Cannot locate your home directory. Please set the environment variable HOME
[19:39] <extasy> 2010-06-06 17:51:16.712 Failed to init MythContext, exiting. Any Idea what I can do?
[19:39] <Zinn> [www.mythtv.org] MythTV, Open Source DVR
[19:52] <extasy> I got this from mythtv.. export HOME=/home/mythtv ; mythbackend -l /var/log/mythbackend.log -d
[19:53] <extasy> and it worked, they also informed me that the fixes needs to be "fixed" in mythbuntu to set the enviroment
[19:53] <extasy> from Sphery: but somehow the Mythbuntu guys need to make sure that mythbackend is executed in an environment with a proper HOME directory specified.  I don't know if they would do that in their wrapper script (don't they still have a mythbackend and mythbackend.real?) or what, but it needs set somewhere.
[20:11] <crgky127> can i install mythtv-frontend from a lucid repo, on hardy?
[20:15] <crgky> (oops need a ups for this machine) can i install mythtv-frontend from a lucid repo on hardy?
[21:40] <qwebirc90810> Anyone familiar with the Hauppauge HD PVR 1212 in mythbuntu.
[21:41] <qwebirc90810> The setup seems to see it but I have no idea what settings to set to make it live.
[21:41] <qwebirc90810> is there a good how to, that may walk me through it.