[01:00] !ubotto [01:01] !ubottu [01:01] Hi! I'm #ubuntustudio's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots [04:06] I've just made a fresh install of Lucid and Ardour is complaining of jack. What should I do? [04:06] hmmm [04:07] mothersofinventi: whats the error? [04:07] wait [04:07] OR better yet [04:07] what device are you trying to use? [04:08] it simply say ardour is not connected to jack. [04:08] mothersofinventi: close everything [04:09] then open qjackctl [04:09] jack control [04:09] ok [04:09] it's open [04:09] hit the 'start' button [04:10] what does it do? [04:11] it says 'Could not connect to JACK server as client. -Overall operation failed. -Unable to connect to server. Please check the messages window for more info.' [04:12] mothersofinventi: OK [04:12] close all that [04:12] and open a terminal [04:12] and run [04:12] sudo qjackctl [04:12] and try starting it that way [04:12] what does it do? [04:13] terminal says 'suspending pulseaudio'... [04:13] OK [04:13] thats good [04:13] may I push start button again? [04:13] did you hit the start button? [04:13] yeah [04:14] ok [04:14] same as before... :-( [04:14] hmmmm [04:14] OK [04:15] open another terminal [04:15] and type [04:15] ok [04:15] uname -a [04:15] and give me that [04:15] what is the address of pastebin? [04:15] you can probably fit it in here [04:15] it should be one line [04:15] i just need the one line [04:15] I'm in another computer. [04:16] http://pastebin.com/ [04:16] gotcha [04:16] does it say real-time? [04:16] or generic? [04:16] thats what im after [04:17] anyway, it says rt... [04:17] hmmm [04:18] mothersofinventi: go to the 'setup' button [04:19] ok [04:19] in your sudo qjackctl [04:19] it's open [04:19] and uncheck the realtime box [04:19] ok [04:19] unchecked. [04:19] and down at the bottom right [04:19] whats the latency? [04:19] 69.7 [04:19] ok [04:20] click ok [04:20] and try start again [04:20] this is the deal [04:20] ok [04:20] you gotta get jack started [04:20] and then you'll be good to go with ardour [04:20] did it start? [04:20] ok, it says it is started. [04:20] hmmm [04:21] may I open ardour then? [04:21] not yet [04:21] ok [04:21] were running jack as root [04:21] and we dont want to do that [04:21] normally [04:21] ust for trouble-shooting [04:21] just* [04:21] ok [04:22] go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation [04:22] and look down the page a bit [04:22] about half way [04:22] there is a few things i want you to do [04:22] ok [04:22] this is important [04:22] sudo adduser audio [04:22] in the terminal [04:23] just put your username in there [04:23] the user your going to be using with your studio [04:23] up above that in that link [04:23] there is ... [04:23] it says that I'm already in that group. [04:24] OIK [04:24] OK* [04:24] do you have 'ubuntu studio controls' installed? [04:24] but wait, I was messing around and changed my account to admin... [04:24] hmm [04:24] that shouldnt matter [04:24] is that a problem? [04:24] ok [04:24] just not the safest thing to do [04:25] ok [04:25] yes, I have ubuntu studio controls, should I open it now? [04:25] sure [04:25] ok [04:25] @audio - rtprio 99 <
> [04:25] @audio - memlock unlimited <
> [04:25] #@audio - nice -19 <
> [04:25] this is from that page [04:26] see if the settings match [04:26] if not, try inputing those settings [04:26] and then lets go back to working on getting jack to start normally [04:28] you mean that "Real Time Support" of the page... [04:28] yeah [04:28] but just set that in 'ubuntustudiocontrols' [04:28] the rt prioority to 99 [04:29] memlock unlimited [04:29] and nice -19 [04:29] it has few controls. [04:29] its got those though right? [04:29] i forget what that looks like exactly [04:30] a box called 'Enable Memlock' with a combo box called "% of system memory"... [04:30] another box called 'Enable raw1394 access' [04:31] hmmm [04:31] * holstein going to studio box... [04:31] the last box is called 'Enable nice', follow by a combo called 'Nice percentage'. [04:32] followed* [04:35] mothersofinventi: OK [04:35] close that [04:35] and let do it this way [04:35] lets* [04:36] run this in the terminal [04:36] sudo gedit /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf [04:37] your interested in the lines [04:37] @audio - rtprio 99 [04:37] @audio - memlock unlimited [04:37] if they already say that [04:37] then we gotta look somewhere else [04:38] ok [04:38] hmmm, they already say that? [04:39] same values as the page's... [04:39] OK [04:39] do this for me [04:39] close the sudo qjack [04:39] and open a normal jack control [04:40] and check and make sure the 'setup' is the same [04:40] with the realtime box unchecked [04:40] and see if it starts [04:41] ok [04:41] it started without complaining? [04:42] all fine. [04:43] if you dont mind [04:43] Can anyone link me to a guide to adding ubuntu studio to my grub2 boot list? Apparently it didn't recognize my other OSes when I was installing it. [04:43] stop it [04:43] and go back in [04:43] and check the realtime box [04:43] and see if you still get an error [04:43] archaicclass: hey [04:43] check out... [04:43] !grub2 [04:43] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 [04:44] archaicclass: and let me know if that isnt what your looing for [04:44] alright thanks :) [04:45] archaicclass: in theory, running sudo apt-get update-grub should go and find everything [04:45] SORRY [04:45] sudo update-grub [04:45] Awesome, many thanks [04:45] * holstein typed sudo apt-get a LOT today ;) [04:47] well, with the rt checkbox checked it doesn't complain, it's simply FREEZING now... [04:48] interesting [04:48] you probably dont need it [04:48] the RT box checked [04:48] mmm... [04:48] you could try without for a while [04:48] and see if its enough for you [04:49] i would expect it to not start if you werent running an RT kernel [04:49] should I start qjackclt, uncheck rt box and start ardour then? [04:50] yup [04:50] uncheck the RT box [04:50] get jack running and 'happy' [04:50] and then go for it [04:51] check out http://opensourcemusician.libsyn.com/ [04:53] something very weird happened. [04:53] let me restart the system to believe myself. [04:55] hehe [04:55] that doesnt sound good [04:55] :/ [04:57] nevermind, system restarted, ardour opens without a problem, but with rt unchecked. [04:57] is that all? [04:59] for now [05:00] til you need lower latency [05:00] then we would need to figure out why your not able to run jack with RT priority [05:00] BUT come and find me if you get to that point [05:01] that is a good question. [05:01] okay, thank you for all. [05:01] bye [05:01] mothersofinventi: anytime [05:06] hmmm [05:06] not you again ;) [05:06] archaicclass: did you get grub sorted out? [05:06] holstein: update-grub worked like a charm [05:06] AWESOME [05:07] i cant imagine why it didnt get everything at install [05:07] but whatever :) [05:07] Perhaps it can't detect grub2, but heh, worked out in the end :) [05:07] if you get a chance [05:07] check out http://opensourcemusician.libsyn.com/ [05:08] Cool, will do. Now to change all my ubuntu desktops to the studio theme :P [05:09] i usually just get the wallpaper [05:10] BUT studio theme is slick [05:11] Indeed [06:50] Hey, how do I connect the MIDI Keyboard program to Ardour through JACK? [06:51] hey Chiggins [06:51] what program? [06:52] I have Virtual Keyboard going to ZynAddSubFX, I would like ZynAddSubFX to go to Ardour. I'm just trying to feel the basic's of using JACK right now. [06:55] http://qjackctl.sourceforge.net/qjackctl-ss1.html [06:55] the 8th and 9th images [06:55] I I have it connected now where I can see the levels rise in Master while using Ardour, but not an individual track [06:55] i have an 'alsa' tab [06:56] and when i start vkeyboard [06:56] i route that to whatever synth [06:56] BUT [06:56] zyn has its own virtual keyboard [06:57] Chiggins: did you route it to the track? [06:57] in JACK [06:57] under the 'audio' tab [06:57] ? [06:57] route zyn's outputs to whatever channel you want in ardour [06:57] and then 'arm [06:57] ' [06:57] the track [06:59] Well right now i have ardour and zyn going to system [06:59] and if i do zyn to "master/in 1" in adrour, it shows up in the master levels [07:01] yeah [07:01] you need to 'create a channel' [07:01] in ardour [07:01] 'create a track' [07:01] a stereo track [07:02] and then send zyn to just that track [07:02] underr the ardour section [07:02] in 'connections' [07:02] be sure to 'expand' ardour' [07:02] hist the little + sign [07:03] like the 8th image down at http://qjackctl.sourceforge.net/qjackctl-ss1.html [07:04] you see how ardour has 6 inputs [07:04] 2 of those the 'mains' [07:04] and the other 4 are 2 stereo tracks [07:04] alright, i have a stereo track called Audio 2... in JACK i have the entire zyn connected to Audio 2/in 1 and Audio 2/in 2, under the Ardour section [07:05] no levels showing up though [07:07] Chiggins: did you arm the track? [07:07] you have to hit the record button on the track [07:09] wtf.. i cant click anything... O.O [07:09] imma restart my computer.. brb [07:13] Hokay back, sorry about that [07:16] Alright, so I hit the record buttons and such, and that worked, I see the levels recorded in Ardour... But when I play it back, I hear nothing. [07:17] Nvm.. Wasnt connected to system! [07:18] Thanks all! [07:19] all? [07:19] ;) [07:31] the ingrate [11:18] I installed a real time kernel and now I can't start jack. It says it couln't find jackd [11:18] ou don't appear to have a sane system configuration. It is very likely that you [11:18] encounter xruns. Please apply all the above mentioned changes and start jack again! [13:40] hi [14:57] hi, I just installed Ubuntu Studio on an old laptop, but X server doesn't seem to work! I just get a login prompt in TTY1 after booting... [14:57] gniourf_gniourf, how old is old [14:57] it's a DELL from 2002 [14:58] ubuntu 9.04 worked well on it, with wifi and all that [14:58] and ubuntu studio 8.04 was okay too [14:59] hmm... read through the output of Xorg.0.log? [15:00] it's empty :) [15:00] wow, that really is an X problem [15:00] what does dmesg say? [15:01] mmhhhhh I don't really know what to look for in fact [15:02] look for something about errors :p [15:02] sure yeah [15:02] failing that, anything about things failing to launch [15:02] segfaults, error messages, whatever can narrow it down [15:03] there's: ACPI Warning for \_SB_.PCI0.VID2._DOD: Return Package has no elements (empty) (20090903/nspredef-433) [15:03] but the laptop has two video cards, so this is probably not relevant [15:04] hmm... not sure what that would mean, probably not [15:04] (this is about the second video card) [15:04] and there's nothing else [15:05] well, nothing else that I can relate to an X problem [15:06] so gdm isn't running? [15:06] no [15:06] when I type gdm: [15:07] ** (gdm-binary:1398): WARNING **: Couldn't connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory [15:07] so potentially dbus isn't even started? [15:08] looks like it... [15:08] looks like a pretty complex bug to me [15:08] oh [15:08] :( [15:09] to be honest i don't really know much about the underpinnings of linux :( [15:09] so far it's all self taught, and that's left quite a few gaps [15:10] same here actually... that's why I'm sometimes asking things on IRC channels :) [15:10] same [15:10] oh well, thanks anyway... [15:10] i dont ask as much as before though, because channels like #ubuntu are clogged with... for lack of a better term, newbs [15:11] yes indeed... [15:11] google is my friend [15:11] :p [15:11] oh, another thing [15:11] was this a fresh install or upgrade [15:13] fresh install! [15:14] I installed it over a working ubuntu 9.04 [15:14] :( [15:19] wow, that's a bit strange [15:19] yes [15:19] i wouldve expected this kind of trouble from an upgrade [15:20] maybe I'm going to install 9.04 again and do an upgrade and install the ubuntu studio packages I need.... [15:20] give that a try and see what happens [15:21] apart from the regression to -generic kernel as default, most things worked i remember [15:21] ok I'l going to try this out [15:21] and i'm off to bed :p [15:21] oh already ?? [15:22] where do you live ? [15:22] 12:22AM [15:22] aus maaaate [15:22] ah ok :) [15:22] [15:22] I'm from france [15:22] it's 4:22 pm here [15:22] ah [15:22] good night then :) [15:22] and thanks [15:22] you're welcome, don't think i helped much, but at least you got a response :p [15:23] yes :) [15:23] 'night [15:23] good night ;) [15:24] a lot of nice apps is buried under various repositories in ubuntu. Is the some easy way to search for desired app online (something similar to opensuse)? For example, falk repository is great for linux multimedia. [17:12] vlada: i usually just find things searching google [17:12] OR news podcasts [17:13] http://opensourcemusician.libsyn.com/ [17:14] not a news podcast necessarily, but they share info on new opensource projects [17:17] nice link [17:17] bookmarked! thanx a lot [17:18] I have no problim to find software I'm looking for, boot noobs might, easily. [17:18] http://software.opensuse.org/ [17:18] take a look at this [17:18] it's easy pure and simple [17:19] we need something like that for ubuntu too [17:27] we've got the new software center though [17:27] i guess that is not by default installed in ubuntustudio [17:27] BUT its very newb friendly [17:29] maybe getdeb too [17:29] http://blog.getdeb.net/ [17:29] looks like its down though [17:30] http://wiki.getdeb.net/ [17:31] i never find anything at getdeb :/ [17:46] welll [17:46] software center is nice place for newbies [17:46] but it's just that [17:47] no exotic thing can be found there [17:48] synaptic is a bit better (more powerful), yet it doesn't provide solution for finding desired software online. too bad! [17:49] and the only way to find "exotic" software is through someones blog (usually repo creator's blog) [17:50] holstein, we need something in between - intermediate solution [17:51] easy is there, advanced too, but not intermediate one... [18:04] anyone here using the restricted wireless/nvidia drivers with success on the rt kernel? [18:06] abstrakt: ive got an RT kernel on a box using a restricted broadcom wifi driver [18:07] does the device work with the generic kernel? [18:07] holstein, it does [18:07] holstein, i've had it happen twice now where after enabling restricted drivers, my grub gets screwed [18:08] so like after the BIOS boots all i get is a black screen with a blinking cursor and my keys just beep [18:08] grub? [18:08] well, the mbr, grub, the bootloader [18:08] hmmm [18:08] it gets b0rked [18:08] i was thinking that would be more graphics driver related [18:08] happend in 10.04 and then i went back to 9.10 and it just happened again [18:08] yeh well this time [18:08] see i thought so to [18:08] but this time [18:09] i didn't install the graphics driver at all [18:09] SO [18:09] you enable the repo [18:09] i waited like 2 weeks, machine worked fine, i was real hesitant to install the drivers cuz i didn't wanna bring down my system [18:09] and the update? [18:09] then* [18:10] and just yesterday i guess it was, i installed the broadcom STA and it said i had to reboot and boom... black screen of death with beepy keys [18:10] i had been running the rt kernel at the time of install [18:10] hmmm [18:10] thats the one im using [18:10] this is all 64 bit too btw [18:10] OH [18:10] which i think, actually might be the main problem :/ [18:10] i got 32-bit [18:10] but i really need low latency [18:10] you should just do 32-bit i say [18:11] and 64 bit gives me such better performance [18:11] i get low latency [18:11] well really what i need to do is buy a separate laptop specifically to run the synthesizer [18:11] and use it like an "instrument" like a guitar or anything else [18:11] or i just need to upg from my core 2 duo 2.0GHz to an i7 :) [18:11] i think ALL 64-bit distros should just say -beta ;) [18:12] agreed :( [18:12] im planning on getting some new hardware [18:12] but seriously, way better latency performance on 64 bit [18:12] BUT i'll just run 32bit on it [18:12]