[00:12] sigh this must be a network thing [00:12] ? [00:13] i cannot get kismet or aircrack to work [00:15] .... I don't use either [00:15] which do you use? [00:15] if any [00:15] use for? [00:15] network security [00:16] ohh... ahemm... I guess nothing :/ [00:16] :-O [00:25] anyone know of a good dock for kde? === jarrett is now known as Vegeta === user__ is now known as Whammo [01:58] is this a good place to ask about bugs? [01:59] i hate bugs [02:00] i keep trying to mount my ipod but kubuntu wont recognize it. [02:00] i check the "DEvices recently plugged in" and nothing shows up. [02:01] put it in MSC mode [02:02] how would i go about doing that? [02:03] sorry, don't know ipods, but there should be some option in the device [02:04] cant find anything on the ipod [02:06] I don't use ipods because they generally require iTunes to do anything with them. any media player with a MSC (media storage class) mode is plug-and-play [02:07] Ah! I just discovered that by right clicking the KDE logo on the panel you can select to toggle between "Kickoff Application Launcher" and "Application Launcher Menu" -- Cool! [02:28] whammo you around? === hagebake is now known as hagabaka [02:31] Rorschachdigital: hi [02:33] Whammo: ipods dont do usb-mass-storage [02:33] cullen: ipods should work with amarok. have for a few years now [02:34] cullen: unless.... are you using an ipod touch with something older than 10.04? [02:34] maco2: heh I thought they might include the feature by now [02:35] Whammo: no. thatd be interoperability. how else would apple lock you in then? [02:35] maco2: idunno, throw a pile of marketing dollars out there? [02:35] Opinions, please. :3 http://opendesktop.org/content/show.php?content=125903 [02:40] sorry about that...i forgot what i was going to ask you :-/ [02:40] lame.. === claydoh_ is now known as claydoh [02:46] can anyone recommend a good dock for kde? [02:47] mac style stuff [02:49] Rorschachdigital: i think the panel can be used that way... [02:51] i haven't seen a way to make it so but thanks for the tip i'll ask google if anyone has accomplished this [03:00] maco2 im using amarok and kubuntu 10.04, recently upgraded from 9.10 [03:00] ipod touch 2nd gen 3.1.3 [03:00] when i plug it in the computer doesnt even recognize that its there [03:00] when i plug it in the computer doesnt even recognize that its there [03:01] oops.. anyway the ipod still charges [03:03] do you have libifuse? [03:03] cullen: please report a bug on hmm it's probably usbmuxd [03:08] Boa noite! [03:09] dunno what libifuse is, or hmm, but ill report it. [03:09] Good evening! :D [03:42] hello people [03:42] how do i add hard drive to kubuntu 10.04? [03:43] is there any gui partitioner? === WindPower_ is now known as WindPower [03:52] no there isnt wizardslovak [03:52] you just gotta make sure that you set your jumpers right [03:53] t order i think [03:53] boot* [04:13] can anyone perhaps guide me to a better media player than amarok? [04:16] audacious [04:17] audacious: Rorschachdigital [04:17] its a bit like winamp [04:17] thank you kindly [04:17] np [04:18] xmms is almost the same as audacious [04:18] damn [04:18] i mounted 2nd hard drive but i cant write on disk [04:19] how do i change permissions?> [04:19] you might need to format the drive with fstab [04:19] no problem , its empty anyways [04:19] then get permissions after [04:20] fstab? whats the command or is there gui for it? [04:20] i got that PartitionManager [04:20] command [04:20] i for get right now [04:21] huh can you settup command for me? === dragon is now known as Guest87277 [04:22] i think that you could just use gparted [04:23] apt-get install gparted === Guest87277 is now known as dragon53 [04:24] can anybody xplain to me what "CD" means, in regards to using "TERMINAL"? thanks [04:24] huh installed it [04:24] but cannot run it [04:24] i need to be root [04:25] change directory jerome__ [04:26] one of the oldest commands known to man [04:26] dir / cd [04:30] ok i got gparted [04:30] how do i change permissionns to ahrd drive? [04:34] idk i forgot lol [04:34] sorry [04:35] im kinda new to linux also [04:40] i need a damn dock [04:44] fstab is not a command, it is a list of partitions and their mount points used by the system at boot time. The file is /etc/fstab. It has nothing to do with formatting partitions or file permissions. [04:45] jerome_ : "cd" is a short form of "chdir". It means "change directory". [04:46] I imagine fstab is representative of "file system table". [04:47] For much more on fstab, issue the command "man fstab". :-) [04:54] Hello Everyone, Im trying to use Rhythmbox to play my music but when I try to play a song it gives me this error "The autoaudiosink element is missing" I'm running Kubuntu 10.04 64bit does anyone know how to fix this problem? [05:40] Hey could you help me. I can't find the visual effects option. Like enable and disabling them. [05:47] do you have compiz? [05:47] hey james [05:48] Rorschachdigital: I don't know. I can't find it. [05:48] Is it installed by default? [05:48] no youd haave to download it [05:49] easiest way would be to go into kpackagekit and search for it [05:50] Okay thx. [05:50] no prob [05:51] this i just a shot in the dark but anyone happen to have kooldock? [05:53] What is it? [05:53] Osx style dock? [05:55] yeah [06:05] sylbot: is there anyreason you need compiz? kwin has similar effects built into it [06:05] I just like the effects. Loom [06:05] Looks all fancy. [06:06] sylbot: do you not like the kwin effects then? [06:06] What are the kwin effects [06:06] Are they enabled already? [06:06] sylbot: they are installed to enable them go to System settings > desktop effects [06:07] hey james [06:07] sylbot: for the most part they are simialr to the compiz ones (although I think compiz has more) [06:07] I have been looking for an effects option. It is not directly under system [06:07] Or at least I can't find them. [06:08] sylbot: sorry, System settings > desktop > desktop effects [06:08] Err. I click the k and then system settings [06:08] Oh okay [06:08] Wish. These are awesome! [06:08] Woah. [06:08] lol [06:08] lol [06:09] Cool. My gpu is supported out of the box. [06:10] Is it on the latest drivers? [06:10] I tried to check but got an error [06:10] No proprietary drivers are being used. [06:10] Or something like that [06:11] sylbot: run "jockey-kde" (hardware drivers in th menu) and if there are any availble for your system it should tell you (what card do you have)? [06:11] Gtx 260 [06:11] And I don't have Internet. [06:11] On the kubuntu box [06:12] sylbot: you will need the internet to enable the drivers :( [06:12] Yeah. It's okay. I am getting wifi to work [06:12] But I'll do that tmmrw. [06:12] I like moving my window around. It's fun. [06:13] james how do you respond with someones name [06:13] Rorschachdigital, tab complete; type three or so letters then hit tab [06:14] bazhang: ^^ on most irc clients [06:14] Rorschachdigital: ^^ sorry :) [06:14] Rorschachdigital, what client [06:14] Rorschachdigital: mostlikly it will work though :) [06:15] quassel [06:15] Rorschachdigital: Then it does [06:15] forgive me i dont relay chat much' [06:15] James147: ooh [06:16] bazhang: thank you [06:16] Rorschachdigital: Hitting tab a second time will cycle through the names that start with what you typed [06:16] Rorschachdigital, no problem :) [06:17] Rorschachdigital: most of the time it is smart enough to guess what you mean (it prioritises the last names you typed and I think the last names to ahve said sopmething) [06:17] James147: yea it seems to just...know....help...me....run [06:19] guys why does kool dock hate me [06:19] Rorschachdigital: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=12097? that looks like its kde 3.2.x :S [06:20] folks... i am trying to change the default time to boot in grub... but it seems its changed since the last time i used it.. i cannot find a grub.conf or menu.1st :-( [06:20] Rorschachdigital: you might conisder Daisy instead http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Daisy?content=102077 (might be in repos under plasma-widget-daisy) [06:21] !grub2 | njathan [06:21] njathan: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 [06:22] njathan: edit /etc/defaults/grub [06:22] James147: thank you heh lets see how thhis one works out [06:22] njathan: then run update-grub [06:23] thanks James147... :-) [06:25] James147: lol yeah so starting this..daisy? [06:26] Rorschachdigital: right click the desktop (once its installed ofcourse ;) ) -> add widget -> search for "daisy" -> drag it onscreen [06:26] Rorschachdigital: everything on the desktop in kde4.x is a widget and can be found the same way (this includes everything on the panel) [06:28] lmao it crashed kde [06:31] Rorschachdigital: how did you install it? (from the repos or the site?) [06:35] James147: not to worry i downloaded it from the repos [06:35] its fine now' [06:36] James147: like i said earlier been having too many hiccups [06:37] Rorschachdigital: need any help with them? [06:39] James147: oh kind sir you have been quite helpful to me today [06:40] James147: i cant think of anything offhand i just need to better familiarize myself with kde [06:40] Rorschachdigital: :) [06:53] James147: do you use daisy? [06:55] Rorschachdigital: Havent as of yet (although I just installed it)... dont like how it cannot overlay windows (or at least that I can see) [06:56] James147: aye theres an option for that [06:56] Rorschachdigital: to let it cover windows with an auto hide? [06:56] James147: its in hiding allow other windows to cover? [06:57] James147: im wondering why it is vetoing the removial of the icons [06:58] Rorschachdigital: Problem is it wont cover windows to makes it all but useless to me unless I have now indows open(which is rare) [06:58] Rorschachdigital: and setting it so that windows wont cover it takes up more space then I like [06:59] James147: im with you i dont think they thought the hiding and accessabilliy of this dock through enough [07:00] Rorschachdigital: you can hit ctrl+F12 to show the dashboard but if you have it at the top of the screen(where I would want it) then it gets covered by the "Hide dashbord" button [07:01] James147: ah yeah i see what you mean [07:01] Rorschachdigital: would probally be fine wiht having it or the panel, but I find the panel has more to offer (sys as a systray) [07:02] James147: im inclined to agree with you i wonder if a systray could be added? [07:03] Rorschachdigital: Probally, but I have no clue how long that would take the developers [07:04] James147: i heard of this cairo dock as well and its in the repos but i couldnt seem to find it after installing [07:06] Rorschachdigital: looks like an application that you can run === james is now known as Guest21036 [07:06] Hi World :D [07:07] hello [07:07] James147: perhaps but the name is unclear and run command cant find it [07:07] Where in the world are you Rorschachdigital? [07:09] Rorschachdigital: try "cairo-dock" (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CairoDock) [07:11] James147: aye no go their either [07:14] Rorschachdigital: heres another (fancy tasks) http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Fancy+Tasks?content=99737 (repo: plasma-widget-fancytasks ) [07:17] Rorschachdigital: but it doent look as functional as daisy :( [07:17] James147: im checking it out atm [07:18] James147: not worth it? [07:18] Rorschachdigital: you can always try it but it has allot less options the daisy [07:21] James147: the majority of the sites ive seen seem to recomend this unabtainabl cairso dock [07:22] cairo* [07:28] James147: splendid news my friend [07:28] * James147 lissens [07:29] * James147 listen instead :) [07:29] James147: i got cairo working you should check it out its quite functional [07:29] lol [08:01] yjntyjntjryfjh [08:08] night all [08:15] how can i manage my internet connections on lucid? if i check on the icon it says "unmanaged" [08:15] anyone has this issue? [08:16] Is there a way to save the annotations on a pdf in okular? === skemo_ is now known as Shadyemo [08:17] I think they are saved automatically, but only okular can view them. It doesn't use the same annotation as acrobat [08:20] hagabaka: doesnt seem that way here, I close and reopen and they have gone... [08:21] err [08:21] strike that :P [08:24] hagabaka: so do you know any tools that allow acrobat users to view my annotations [08:26] you can use flpsed to add text, but they are not annotations, and its UI is very basic [08:27] http://www.gnurou.org/blog/2008/09/09/finally_real_pdf_annotating_under_linux --actually using wine [08:28] hrm [08:29] I wonder, does the real adobe app do them? [08:29] * jussi installs... [08:30] I think the document needs to be "enabled" for the adobe reader to do it, which I thought ridiculous [08:30] heh [08:30] that is ridiculous, lets see if we can do it... [08:33] http://www.hrstc.org/node/31 I haven't tried that instruction for acroread, or Mendeley [08:34] good night [08:35] Hello. Is this the right chat room for ubuntu. If not, how do I connect to #ubuntu? [08:35] #ubuntu [08:47] knetworkmanager shows as "unmanaged" what does this means? [08:53] SkEmO: u can try to delete /var/lib/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.state and restart [08:53] it says it doesent exist [08:53] i think there is a bug sometimes, if the sytem is not properly shutdown or suspended [08:54] hmm [08:55] but i can find it manually [08:55] besides all the values there are set as true [08:56] well the only problem is, i cant connect to the wireless [08:58] even sudo restart network-manager doesent work :S [08:58] restart: unknown job: network-manager [08:58] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/553994 [08:58] i think this is the bugreport === andrei is now known as ^nomercy^ [09:28] !clone | ScorpKing [09:28] ScorpKing, please see my private message [10:23] xorg uses 270MB of RAM, is this normal? [10:24] no [10:24] amarok 194MB of RAM [10:24] krusader 140MB of RAM [10:24] :/ [10:24] crazy [10:24] ktorrent 110MB and chrome 100MB [10:25] well_laid_lawn possible reasons? [10:25] ok, i have 8GB of ram but i can tell you - everything is laggy and sooo slow :( [10:25] maybe muktiple instances of each app - ps aux | grep appname will tell [10:27] nope [10:27] one instances [10:28] you could logout/login and it should drop the mem usage [10:28] 280MB ram xorg now :( [10:29] yeah but it keeps going up all the time [10:29] 281 allready [10:30] after xorg restart works well for ~20min then starts to lag [10:30] 283MB... [10:31] i just dunno how to debug this ;( [10:31] must be something to do with the vid card drivers then [10:31] yeah i think so too [10:31] i have dula monitor [10:32] did you make an xorg.conf? [10:32] nvidia-settings did, wait, i will paste it [10:33] http://pastebin.com/66XmpFUk [10:36] any ideas well_laid_lawn ? [10:37] that looks fine afaik [10:37] i guess i will try to disable 2nd monitor [10:37] no wait - why is there no section for the second monito? [10:38] *monitor [10:38] dunno, maybe because xorg "thinks" there is only one, just big [10:38] ? [10:38] nvidias xinerama function [10:38] are they both the same type? [10:39] yes [10:39] the same resolution [10:39] k [10:39] lcds [10:39] but not the same models [10:39] one is CTX, one Samsung [10:41] it might pay to google for nvidia twinview xorg to see if others have two monitor sections [10:57] is anyone there. [10:58] most wait to see if the question is something they know so just ask it :] [10:58] :P [10:58] if only they were that patient... [10:58] well_laid_lawn: i was about to say hi and wham hes gone [10:59] i think i know who he is... [10:59] well_laid_lawn few minutes up and xorg now takes 253MB of RAM [10:59] Fleck: on a single monitor? [10:59] no [10:59] two [11:00] let me try one monitor... [11:00] what did you do? - logout? [11:00] yes [11:00] hmm.. well one of my gmail contacts has a nick phoenix and his ip does indicate that hes from Delhi :P [11:00] i should have restart x too? [11:01] try a single monitor - if it still happens the try a diff driver [11:01] the logout does that afaik [11:02] well_laid_lawn: logout doesn't restart x, at the logout menu there's an option to do that [11:02] o [11:02] ok i will try that [11:02] mem use for x went down but then it went back to climbing it seems [11:03] I meant at the login screen, after you've logged out, there's an option to restart X (in the shutdown menu). Not to get the menus confused :-) [11:03] :] [11:09] after restart (updated kubuntu) - i have xorg 25MB, then after i started kmail, kvirc and skype 31MB [11:10] 33.6MB after krusader starup [11:12] so it was the dual monitor setup then fleck? [11:12] and what is virtuoso-t ? [11:12] dunno, i have two monitors at the moment [11:13] Fleck: thats the indexed [11:13] *indexer [11:13] how can i disable it? takes 130MB of RAM [11:13] Fleck: virtuoso is the indexer that strigi uses [11:13] it's a resource hog, that's what it is :-P [11:13] Fleck: disabled the indexer (system settings > advanced > desktop search ) [11:14] Fleck: K > Systemsettings > Desktop Search [11:14] well_laid_lawn but keeps going up, now 36MB allready [11:14] ok [11:14] thank you [11:14] Fleck: you can set the amount of memory its supposed to use [11:14] * shadeslayer has it set to 50 MB [11:14] Fleck: It should only be using memory while its indexing once its finish it should be fine, it will also disable itsself if toher programs are using the resourcces [11:17] well_laid_lawn juuhuu, xorg is 150MB now :) [11:18] ok let me try one monitor [11:19] Hi everyone! [11:19] I need some good irc cilent for Kubuntu [11:19] Quassel looks good but DCC does not work [11:19] zlatan: I like konversation [11:19] zlatan: quassel and konversation are the two most used for kde [11:20] Thanks, I will try Konversation [11:24] ok now one monitor 31MB at the moment [11:24] 32MB [11:25] 35MB [11:26] Fleck: what version of kubuntu/kde are you on? [11:27] 10.04 latest [11:27] kde 4.4.2 [11:27] 37MB [11:27] Fleck: and how is your plasma-desktop process doing? [11:28] 34MB [11:28] hi [11:28] I used to have all sorts of memory leaks in xorg/plasma, though finally I think they are over (pending a fix to ktorrent plasmoid) [11:29] Fleck: been having a google and it seems some others have had similar issues - using diff vid cards and single or dual monitors - kde seems to be the common factor === shadesla1er is now known as shadeslayer === shadesla1er is now known as shadeslayer [11:43] amichair i have desktop folder view, wheather forecast and color picker [11:43] that's it [11:43] nothing else [11:43] at the moment 39MB RAM xorg takes [11:45] i have unchecked everything in desktop search - but still have that virtuoso-t thing :/ [11:46] tadaa... xorg just jumped up to 160MB [11:47] c'è qualcuno esperto in matematica a cui posso chiedere una cosa 2 minuti? [11:49] !it | francesco_ [11:49] francesco_: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) [11:51] Fleck: where are you getting the info for the mem X uses? [11:52] CTRL + ESC [11:52] Fleck: can you post the buffers/cache line from free -m ? [11:53] sure [11:53] http://pastebin.com/hD7gB85F [11:54] k - uses alot... [11:56] k? [11:57] and i have open kmail, skype, kvirc, konsole and chrome [11:57] that's it [11:57] ohh - krusader [11:57] let me try nv drivers... [12:12] hello good morning [12:13] i have the same problem yet with the audio [12:13] i do not listing anything [12:15] !sound | jorge [12:15] jorge: If you're having problems with sound see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 [12:17] i do not have idea how to do that [12:17] James147 [12:34] with nv i have now 123MB but now i have clone view :P [12:38] anyway - nv driver is soo fast [12:38] nothing lags [12:39] perfecto ;) [12:39] even xorg is now at 124MB :) [12:42] i haven't seen so fast kde from kde 3.5 i can tell you! :)) [12:54] hi there, does anybody know how to install a lowlatency kernel on lucid? [13:00] amichair still here? [13:00] can i use nv and get somehome working glx? [13:01] Fleck: still here, but I dunno :-/ [13:01] yep [13:01] Fleck: of course you must be prepared to test git packages [13:02] Fleck: they will be unstable.... [13:02] ohh [13:02] Fleck: btw my X process is 160M RES, but I don't think it's growing, so it's not a leak [13:02] so if your looking for something stable,forget it :P [13:02] amichair yeah but after few days i got allready 280MB :D [13:03] shadeslayer ok, then i will try some more things, and then if nothing works - i will use nv without glx ... because it's sooo faast... :) [13:03] Fleck: are you looking at RES memory or total/virtual/shared memory? I use htop to view the stats [13:04] not RSS, but RSS is near... shared mem for xorg is noly 10MB [13:04] *only [13:04] Fleck: hehe [13:05] Fleck: RES is the 'physically taking up space' memory, and is probably what's important to you [13:05] RES is 74MB [13:05] at the moment [13:06] hey shadey [13:07] Fleck: try to see if it really grows with time or not [13:08] Guest64102: hey :) [13:08] amichair well i can tell you - at the moment nvidia driver is so slow... [13:08] really slow [13:08] e.g. my plasma-desktop on karmic used to grow to 1G RES over a couple weeks of use [13:08] compared to nv [13:08] Hey everyone Guest64102 is one of my friends and hes new to kubuntu [13:09]