| gnomefreak | what package would i file a bug on for the apperance->backgrounds? | 02:40 |
|---|---|---|
| micahg | gnomefreak: xprop | grep CLASS | 02:47 |
| gnomefreak | thanks | 02:48 |
| gnomefreak | it shows gnome-terminal | 02:48 |
| maco2 | gnomefreak: you have to click on the appearance window | 02:50 |
| gnomefreak | ah | 02:50 |
| gnomefreak | gnome-appearance-properties better | 02:51 |
| gnomefreak | that isnt a package but doesnt matter much really bad storms moving in right now so i will have to pick back up on it in the morning | 02:52 |
| * gnomefreak smoke while downloads finish | 02:52 | |
| micahg | gnomefreak: gnome-control-center | 02:53 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: thanks | 02:53 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: if you have a binary and don't know the package, you can always dpkg -S `which binary` | 02:53 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: yep but i didnt have a bin either | 02:55 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: gnome-appearance-properties :) | 02:55 |
| gnomefreak | oh oops | 02:56 |
| maco2 | micahg: time for a blog post? | 02:59 |
| micahg | maco2: for what? | 03:00 |
| micahg | how to find which program? | 03:00 |
| * micahg needs to start a blog :) | 03:00 | |
| maco2 | micahg: yes | 03:02 |
| micahg | k, when I start my blog :) | 03:03 |
| gnomefreak | IIRC it tells you how to find the package in one of our bug wikis | 03:08 |
| gnomefreak | ok now i can go for a quick smoke ;) | 03:08 |
| reduz | hi guys, question!!! how do i report a bug in ubuntu itself and not in a package? | 03:50 |
| Flannel | reduz: I answered you in #ubuntu | 03:50 |
| reduz | Flannel, yeah but i can't find any package in there | 03:52 |
| Flannel | reduz: Right, but that page says to file it against the kernel (from the description you gave me) | 03:53 |
| reduz | i don't think kernel is at fault, if i configure the networking by hand in console it works fine, i think it's probably network-manager | 03:55 |
| reduz | well, i'll file the bug anyway, if it's wrong i hope the report isnt ignored | 03:55 |
| Flannel | reduz: File it whereever you think it's appropriate. It'll get moved around as people who are more familiar with those particular aspects touch it | 03:56 |
| kermiac | does anyone know what the new status "opinion" is? I just noticed it on Staging LP - http://imgbin.org/images/1786.png | 04:42 |
| kermiac | nvm, I found the ML discussion http://www.mail-archive.com/launchpad-dev@lists.launchpad.net/msg02984.html | 04:45 |
| BUGabundo_remote | Have u seen the Sun?I need my photosynthesis! | 09:15 |
| kahen | where would i have to go to find out when and why pxboard was removed from the xboard package? | 11:02 |
| nperry | Would you say bug 590686 is a wishlist? | 12:02 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 590686 in inkscape (Ubuntu) "Verb "Affect" should be replaced with noun "Effect" (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/590686 | 12:02 |
| nperry | Actually no its not a feature, just bad english. Ignore me :) | 12:02 |
| ansgar | nperry: Typos or bad grammar should be "Low" in most cases. | 12:05 |
| DrKenobi | Hi! I've just sent this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/gtk/+bug/583457 to upstream. Can someone set it as Triaged and Wishlist? Thanks! | 14:16 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 583457 in gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Firefox print (to file) dialog (affects: 3) (dups: 1) (heat: 24)" [Low,New] | 14:16 |
| pedro_ | DrKenobi, done!, thanks for sent it upstream | 14:22 |
| DrKenobi | pedro_ thank you!! | 14:23 |
| DrKenobi | Hi! I think this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/377945 should be set to wishlist, but I don't know the "package". Thanks! | 14:45 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 377945 in ubuntu "Add Task Coach to repositories (affects: 3) (heat: 13)" [Undecided,New] | 14:45 |
| DrKenobi | Also, the status should be set to confirmed | 14:54 |
| DrKenobi | I can do that he | 14:54 |
| yofel | DrKenobi: this would fall under https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage#Needs%20Packaging%20Bugs | 14:57 |
| DrKenobi | yofel tank you! i'll read it right now! | 14:58 |
| yofel | DrKenobi: oh, and add the 'needs-packaging' tag, it will be auto-wishlisted then | 15:00 |
| DrKenobi | great, thanks yofel | 15:03 |
| PrototypeX29A | hey is there anything i can do about: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/585384 | 16:29 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 585384 in evolution (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) ""Error while Filtering Selected Message." (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Low,Triaged] | 16:29 |
| PrototypeX29A | maybe bother the gnome-people? | 16:30 |
| pedro_ | PrototypeX29A, yes, better to talk to them about it , use the #evolution channel on GIMPNet | 16:31 |
| PrototypeX29A | not gnome.net? | 16:32 |
| pedro_ | PrototypeX29A, irc.gnome.org | 16:34 |
| pedro_ | or irc.gimp.org, etc | 16:34 |
| PrototypeX29A | there were only idlers there, last time i tried | 16:34 |
| PrototypeX29A | i try to address them via gnome bugtracking | 16:35 |
| PrototypeX29A | but i wonder why it doesn't have a higher importance | 16:39 |
| PrototypeX29A | strange, it looks like that i didn't report the most basic bugs in my series :/ | 16:48 |
| atrus | PrototypeX29A: most important thing is to have a reliably reproducable test case, if you can manage one. | 16:50 |
| PrototypeX29A | yes, i am very willing to isolate the bug, but i don't have a clue how evolution works internally so i might need some help | 16:52 |
| PrototypeX29A | i can't just send a copy of my inbox | 16:52 |
| atrus | PrototypeX29A: maybe create another user account on the system, and try to get just one message that triggers the issue? | 16:56 |
| PrototypeX29A | atrus: i can cannot reproduce the mail myself, it is something that outlook does it seems | 16:59 |
| PrototypeX29A | maybe i can get the originator of the bad mails to write me a blank to another account | 16:59 |
| PrototypeX29A | but i try to make a more pointed bug report, but still struggle with the gnome bugtracker | 17:00 |
| atrus | is it just when that one person sends you mail? | 17:01 |
| PrototypeX29A | no a group of persons, it is some kind of attachment their mail program does | 17:02 |
| PrototypeX29A | it gets special treatment in evolution, it seems. But i cannot say for sure | 17:02 |
| PrototypeX29A | seems launchpad ist down | 17:02 |
| PrototypeX29A | -t | 17:02 |
| atrus | PrototypeX29A: a sample of that would probably be good for upstream. | 17:05 |
| PrototypeX29A | i don't know what "a sample" might be | 17:07 |
| atrus | PrototypeX29A: i mean one of these emails, with an attachment. | 17:09 |
| atrus | you might want to ask the upstream devs what format they'd want such a sample in, and see if they can give you any guidance there. | 17:09 |
| PrototypeX29A | this is very strange, the attached file has my computer name in it | 17:12 |
| PrototypeX29A | it must be something generated by evolution itself | 17:13 |
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| PrototypeX29A | atrus: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=620858 | 17:38 |
| ubot2 | Gnome bug 620858 in Mailer "Error while Moving messages into folder Inbox." [Major,Unconfirmed] | 17:38 |
| PrototypeX29A | now i need the gnome people to have a look | 17:39 |
| PrototypeX29A | one could shorten "the gnome people" to "the gnomes" | 17:39 |
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| komputes | Does anyone know of a bug where corruption is caused by having two package managers run at the same time (Ubuntu Software Center + Update Manager)/ | 19:08 |
| greg-g | komputes: that shouldn't be possible, right? | 19:09 |
| komputes | greg-g: damn right! | 19:09 |
| komputes | greg-g: should have a lock on dpkg | 19:09 |
| greg-g | I mean, it isn't possible, is it? | 19:09 |
| komputes | greg-g: I have had 2 people tell me that they have corrupt system from installing apps from USC and at the same time updating with UM | 19:10 |
| greg-g | komputes: can you have them report a bug with their logs attached, please? | 19:12 |
| komputes | greg-g: both can't log in any longer | 19:12 |
| komputes | greg-g: no recovery mode | 19:13 |
| komputes | greg-g: We can boot from the CD and look for the file | 19:13 |
| greg-g | komputes: that'd be great | 19:13 |
| greg-g | komputes: also, just as an aside, tell them not to do that again ;) | 19:13 |
| komputes | greg-g: which file would be needed? | 19:14 |
| komputes | greg-g: this is not an issue with the user, the one package manager lock (if that is the issue) should be fixed to not allow it. | 19:16 |
| komputes | I still need to try and reproduce this first | 19:16 |
| komputes | greg-g: any suggestion on which logs would be useful | 19:22 |
| komputes | greg-g: these users will be formatting the disk afterwards, so make it count ;) | 19:22 |
| greg-g | komputes: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingUpdateManager | 19:29 |
| greg-g | komputes: from that page's triage guide: "Could you please add the log files from '/var/log/dist-upgrade/' to this bug report as separate attachments?" | 19:31 |
| charlie-tca | komputes: if that is a normal update, they need the /var/log/dpkg.log | 19:40 |
| vish | greg-g: could you update your time in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Mentors ? also , is Dave being mentored? | 19:45 |
| greg-g | vish: time is good, and I haven't spoken with Dave in a long time | 19:47 |
| vish | greg-g: ok , also i cant seem to find him on lp. | 19:47 |
| vish | do you have his lp link? | 19:47 |
| greg-g | vish: https://edge.launchpad.net/~dogatemycomputer | 19:48 |
| vish | hehe , dogatemycomputer! | 19:48 |
| greg-g | :) | 19:49 |
| vish | greg-g: well , we'll purge him from the mentorship program right now , we can add him later if he applies for mentors. sound good to you? | 19:49 |
| greg-g | vish: perfect | 19:52 |
| vish | cool | 19:52 |
| greg-g | I last talked to him in December of 2009 | 19:53 |
| vish | hggdh: pedro_: charlie-tca: the mentorship team members list is a bit of a mess right now , lets /not/ approve new students and wait to assign mentors later. right now, we dont know who is assigned or not. | 19:54 |
| vish | Rather , when we assign mentor we can approve into team as well. that way it would be easier to know that all in the team are either mentors or currently mentored | 19:54 |
| vish | ? | 19:55 |
| vish | And some of the students are very old approvals , not sure if they are interested anymore | 19:56 |
| charlie-tca | We should be able to look at the wiki and know if a student is assigned. We have two pages, one for the menor/student assignments and one for students awaiting assignments | 19:57 |
| charlie-tca | All we need it is to maintain https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Mentors/Students | 19:57 |
| vish | charlie-tca: yeah , but right now we have to cross check to make sure. | 19:57 |
| charlie-tca | I thought pedro sent messages out to the mentors and old approved students ? | 19:58 |
| vish | not sure if mrooney is still interested in mentoring , i havent seen him in a while | 19:58 |
| vish | and he is in the deactived list > https://launchpad.net/~bugsquad-mentorship/+members#active | 19:59 |
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| vish | deactivated* | 19:59 |
| charlie-tca | Need to check with pedro. He was supposed to send messages to all the mentors asking if they were still interested. | 19:59 |
| charlie-tca | If he is listed as deactivated, he is not mentoring at this time | 20:00 |
| vish | hmm , what time is meeting tomorrow? | 20:01 |
| charlie-tca | I show 16:00 UTC | 20:02 |
| vish | neat | 20:02 |
| vish | charlie-tca: another issue with approval of students without mentors , would mean we cant keep track of the months they are tutored easily , what pedro_ mentioned was we approve for 3months period , but if we dont assign mentor immediately , the 3months would need adjustment again for a lot of the students | 20:08 |
| charlie-tca | It will start when the mentor is assigned. | 20:09 |
| vish | hmm , so that would be again changed after approval? | 20:09 |
| vish | kinda seems weird though approving them in and asking them to wait for an assign.. :s | 20:10 |
| charlie-tca | To know if the student is ready for a mentor, you have to verify that his wiki page is there, the launchpad page is updated, etc. After doing all that, you leave them sit in unapproved? | 20:10 |
| charlie-tca | Then you get a mentor wanting a student, you check everything again? | 20:10 |
| charlie-tca | If you approve the student without a date, you know he/she is ready, right? | 20:11 |
| vish | charlie-tca: if we have checked everything ,and everything is in order , we just assign. why wait? | 20:11 |
| charlie-tca | Then any administrator could assign the student a mentor, and know the student is ready for it. no? | 20:11 |
| charlie-tca | What happens when the students outnumber the mentors available? | 20:12 |
| vish | charlie-tca: then we dont approve . wait for the queue to clear. all we need to do is to check the incoming students if everything is right and as time passes we approve as available | 20:13 |
| charlie-tca | The https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Mentors/Students shows students ready for a mentor. Which mentors have responded to pedro's emails? | 20:13 |
| vish | charlie-tca: hmm , so do we now clear out the old students? | 20:14 |
| charlie-tca | Which old students? | 20:14 |
| charlie-tca | That wiki page should be up-to-date | 20:14 |
| vish | charlie-tca: https://launchpad.net/~bugsquad-mentorship/+members#active , there are a lot of idle ones here | 20:15 |
| * stenten reads back | 20:15 | |
| stenten | http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar says the BugSquad meeting tomorrow is at 15:00 UTC | 20:15 |
| charlie-tca | The mentors are also there. Matching back to the students list, there are very few old students there | 20:15 |
| vish | several of the old students dont have a wiki | 20:16 |
| vish | charlie-tca: if we have "Expires" date assigned to students and -- for mentors it'll be easy to recognize | 20:17 |
| charlie-tca | fine | 20:17 |
| charlie-tca | you get with pedro and set the rules up then | 20:18 |
| vish | yeah. | 20:19 |
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| PrototypeX29A | it looks like a bug, that i cannot say thunderbird, no the check my email. But I am unsure, as i am new to thunderbird | 21:43 |
| micahg | PrototypeX29A: what bug WRT thunderbird? | 21:44 |
| PrototypeX29A | WRT? | 21:45 |
| micahg | PrototypeX29A: with regard to | 21:45 |
| PrototypeX29A | i told thunderird not to automatically fetch my email, it still does so | 21:46 |
| micahg | PrototypeX29A: in the Migration Assistant? | 21:46 |
| PrototypeX29A | in the server settings | 21:47 |
| PrototypeX29A | i also unchecked [ ] Use IDLE command" | 21:47 |
| PrototypeX29A | after a hint in #ubuntu | 21:47 |
| micahg | PrototypeX29A: which version of Thunderbird? | 21:48 |
| PrototypeX29A | 3.0.4 | 21:48 |
| micahg | PrototypeX29A: you set it in Synchronization and Storage? | 21:48 |
| PrototypeX29A | I don't understand | 21:49 |
| PrototypeX29A | i go to Edit > Account Settings | 21:49 |
| micahg | PrototypeX29A: which setting are you wondering about? auto download every 10 min? | 21:49 |
| PrototypeX29A | i wonder why it keeps fetching email | 21:49 |
| micahg | PrototypeX29A: it does offline storage by default in Thunderbird 3 | 21:50 |
| PrototypeX29A | what is offline storage? | 21:50 |
| micahg | PrototypeX29A: it downloads mail to disk | 21:50 |
| PrototypeX29A | that is what i expect to happen | 21:50 |
| PrototypeX29A | but not without being asked to connect to the server | 21:50 |
| PrototypeX29A | i am used to mail clients which download emails, when i say "download emails" and then store it locally | 21:51 |
| PrototypeX29A | what happens is, that i get new mails all the time, without me asking TB to fetch mail | 21:52 |
| micahg | I wonder if the offline storage is conflicting with the download mail setting | 21:52 |
| * micahg is testing now | 21:53 | |
| PrototypeX29A | these are two different things? | 21:54 |
| micahg | yes | 21:54 |
| Prototyp1X29A | micahg: so do you think it is worth it to file a bug report? | 22:12 |
| micahg | Prototyp1X29A: I'm waiting to see if it happens to me | 22:12 |
| micahg | Prototyp1X29A: are you using the folders? | 22:12 |
| Prototyp1X29A | which folders? | 22:12 |
| micahg | Prototyp1X29A: the ones in the acct that's d/l the mail | 22:13 |
| Prototyp1X29A | i'm not doing anything | 22:13 |
| Prototyp1X29A | i have set a filter for mails with a specific subject to be moved in some local folder, when i write myself an email with that subject it immediately appears in that folder | 22:14 |
| micahg | idk, when you send mail, I think it checks mail as well | 22:17 |
| Prototyp1X29A | so it is not a good way to reproduce the bug? | 22:17 |
| micahg | Prototyp1X29A: idk, I need a better description, maybe hop in #thunderbird on irc.mozilla.org and ask | 22:25 |
| Prototyp1X29A | what is idk? | 22:26 |
| Prototyp1X29A | micahg: i kind of fed up with bug reporting for today, maybe tomorrow | 22:26 |
| micahg | Prototyp1X29A: k, feel free to ping me tomorrow if you need me in the channel over there or need help filing a bug | 22:27 |
| Prototyp1X29A | thanks | 22:27 |
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| Prototyp1X29A | on the other hand, i need working email so i should have a look | 22:27 |
| Prototyp1X29A | so maybe the problem now is that it keeps polling when sending mail | 22:35 |
| Prototyp1X29A | it kept polling all the time and flooded me with notices, that isn't happening any more after i played with the settings a little bit | 22:36 |
| Prototyp1X29A | micahg: at least when i click on the Inbox folder, it is polled immediately, which i think is not the supposed behaviour | 22:37 |
| Prototyp1X29A | (and works better with evolution), but that is something i probably can work around | 22:37 |
| micahg | Prototyp1X29A: k, I'm not sure if that's a bug or not, I can check | 23:23 |
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