[00:25] <nikolam> micahg, I am yet to try it on lucid. I migrated finally to SM 2.04 on hardy few weeks ago.
[00:25] <micahg> nikolam: ah, ok
[00:28] <nikolam> good thing is since then not a one bad thing to report at me. I would also like to see some day, enigmail for SM again inside ubuntu repos.
[00:28] <micahg> nikolam: 1.0.1 from Lucid should work
[00:28] <micahg> nikolam: if not, file a bug and I'll look into it
[00:30] <nikolam> hm, I set up 1.0 from enigmail page (no 1.0.1 there for x86-64=)  I will try this one from lucid hot it is working, thanks.
[00:45] <nikolam> micahg, enigmail deb from lucid requires newer libasound2
[00:45] <nikolam> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/445812/
[00:46] <nikolam> this is on hardy.
[00:46]  * nikolam needs to sleep now 
[00:46] <micahg> nikolam: k, idk if we can do that for hardy then, but please file a bug
[00:46] <micahg> nikolam: actually, don't
[00:46] <micahg> nikolam: we won't be updating enigmail since we're not updating thunderbird
[00:48] <nikolam> oki
[00:48] <micahg> nikolam: I might be able to push to PPA though possibly
[00:49] <nikolam> mine target is enigmail for SM in maverick+, anyway
[00:49] <micahg> nikolam: should work in Lucid
[00:49] <nikolam> but most probably lucid+ for real
[00:50] <nikolam> aha will check it out, then.
[00:51] <nikolam> aha, also, never got to congratulate you micahg for pushing Seamonkey 2.04 to Lucid! :)
[00:51] <nikolam> Thank you :)
[00:51] <micahg> nikolam: thanks, we still have some cleanup thought :) no locales yet :)
[00:52] <nikolam> aha I see. ;)
[00:53] <nikolam> g night (here almost 02am)
[00:54] <micahg> nikolam: night
[02:17] <gnomefreak> did the bot(s) take a vacation or is it broke?
[02:18] <micahg> gnomefreak: which bot?
[02:18] <gnomefreak> nothing updated daily ff3.6 ff3.7 chromium tbirds 3 3.1
[02:18] <gnomefreak> tb3.1 is expected
[02:19] <micahg> gnomefreak: only update from mozilla last night was ff37 and xul193 and xul193 broke
[02:19] <gnomefreak> ok let me see what update i have
[02:20] <gnomefreak> ok firefox-3.7 is from saturday rest is friday
[02:20] <micahg> gnomefreak: yeah, I have to see if I can get it going tonight, the build failed for no good reason
[02:21] <gnomefreak> thunderbird is from may 30
[02:21] <gnomefreak> micahg: ok thanks
[02:44] <gnomefreak> really really need to find a faster way to do this :(
[02:46] <micahg> gnomefreak: do what?
[02:46] <gnomefreak> micahg: adding some of my background images to apperance. i have well over 100 of them and adding one by one takes forever
[03:49] <gnomefreak> am i here?
[03:50] <micahg> gnomefreak: do you want to be?
[03:51] <gnomefreak> yes but tb isnt connecting to smtp gmail so i was wondering if it was me
[03:52] <micahg> gnomefreak: I thought you have to use your ISPs SMTP for gmail?
[03:52] <gnomefreak> i do?
[03:52] <micahg> gnomefreak: xul193 should build again tonight barring more breakage :)
[03:52] <micahg> gnomefreak: that's what I always had to do
[03:52] <gnomefreak> micahg: ok thanks i will be here tomorrow if i ever get to sleep
[03:53] <gnomefreak> thunderbird is starting this reply below bug again. i will play with it tomorrow
[09:15] <BUGabundo_remote> Have u seen the Sun?I need my photosynthesis!
[09:46] <BUGabundo_remote> fta http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=45987
[09:46] <BUGabundo_remote> I think this local, not upstream
[09:48] <fta> BUGabundo_remote, which nss do you have?
[09:51] <BUGabundo_remote> fta what's the package name?
[09:51] <BUGabundo_remote> libnss-mdns  ?
[09:52] <fta> libnss3-1d
[09:52] <fta> libnss3-1d (>= 3.12.3)
[09:53] <BUGabundo_remote>  *** 3.12.6-2 0        500 http://ftp.debian.org unstable/main Packages
[10:08] <fta> not sure what those ms-like nss error codes are
[10:29] <fta> can't start gwibber anymore
[10:35] <BUGabundo_remote> wfm
[10:35] <BUGabundo_remote> old old kerneç
[10:36] <BUGabundo_remote> .34 won't work
[10:36] <BUGabundo_remote> to much restrictions
[10:49] <fta> when i try to start gwibber, it complains with "Unable to find listening port" and apport pops up for gwibber, gwibber-service and desktopcouch-service
[10:51] <BUGabundo_remote> yep
[10:51] <BUGabundo_remote> reboot to kernel .32 and it works
[11:18] <fta> bug 589656
[11:18] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 589656 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "help -> report a problem doesn't work on Maverick (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 16)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/589656
[11:21] <fta> weird, that was 3 days ago, but i just got a new kernel this morning
[11:37] <BUGabundo_remote> I still can't install the new kernel
[11:39] <fta> got 2.6.35-1.1 this morning
[11:40] <fta> oh, it's from friday
[12:05] <BUGabundo_remote> ĩ can't complains
[12:06] <BUGabundo_remote> about missing image
[12:08] <gnomefreak> fix me :(
[12:23] <DASPRiD> u r unfixable :P
[12:23] <gnomefreak> nope
[12:23] <gnomefreak> not a chance in hell to get the usb stick to mount
[12:23]  * DASPRiD tries to put some glue on gnomefreak, but it doesn't stick
[12:24] <gnomefreak> :)
[12:24] <DASPRiD> gnomefreak, i also once had a usb stick which didnt want to automount
[12:24] <DASPRiD> i had to mount it manually
[12:25] <gnomefreak> DASPRiD: not sure how to do that never had to before. i have a theroy on how. still not sure if it really is sdd1 either
[12:25] <DASPRiD> gnomefreak, do: sudo fdisk -l
[12:25] <DASPRiD> find the partition (/dev/sd*)
[12:25] <DASPRiD> you can recognize it by the size usually
[12:25]  * gnomefreak doesnt care much about the data at this point. 
[12:25] <DASPRiD> or look in gparted, there you get more information
[12:26] <DASPRiD> heh okay ;)
[12:28] <gnomefreak> DASPRiD: http://paste.ubuntu.com/446047/ im not seing it there
[12:28] <gnomefreak> the red light is lit on stick but not mounted
[12:31]  * gnomefreak not seeing 4gig anywher ein that list
[12:45] <gnomefreak> well gparted doesnt help either oh well
[13:24] <BUGabundo_remote> gnomefreak: none of my usb *disk* will  automount
[13:24] <BUGabundo_remote> and e-sata no mather what I do, won't automount
[13:24] <BUGabundo_remote> usbpendrives work fine :\
[13:24] <BUGabundo_remote> its weird
[13:25] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo_remote: mine worked fine until i corrupted the drive (windows XP tells me that)
[13:26] <gnomefreak> not formated right or something like that
[13:27] <gnomefreak> its not really that its not auto mounting but more of it doesnt recognize the drivenothing shows me that it is even there
[13:29] <gnomefreak> the red light is lit on the drive but that is the closest i come. gparted and fsdisk do not show it so i dont where it even is
[13:29] <gnomefreak> nothing i have found in repos works
[13:35] <BUGabundo_remote> plug it, and format it?
[13:36] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo_remote: that would work great if it saw the disk at all
[13:36] <BUGabundo_remote> fdisk or dmesg doesn't show it?
[13:36] <gnomefreak> plugging it in is the same as not plugging it in  (other then the pretty red light)
[13:36] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo_remote: nope
[13:37] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo_remote: http://paste.ubuntu.com/446047/
[13:38] <gnomefreak> i hate to throw it away and have to buy another one
[14:04] <gnomefreak> well looks like 1.9.3 builds now
[14:15] <gnomefreak> what is the mozilla channel for extensions?
[15:31] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: which apps are using webkit in the hardy update? epiphany and yelp?
[15:31] <chrisccoulson> jdstrand, just epiphany
[15:31] <chrisccoulson> yelp will still be using xulrunner 1.9
[15:31] <chrisccoulson> (it doesn't work with 1.9.2, so i patched it to not load the new one)
[15:32] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: ok, so we can technically wait on epiphany then, cause the one in hardy will (obviously) continue to use gecko
[15:33] <jdstrand> (well, wait on both epiphany and webkit)
[15:33] <jdstrand> I have very strong reservations about epiphany/webkit due to the ssl cert validation
[15:35] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: also, what is the eta of 3.6.4 going live upstream?
[15:36] <chrisccoulson> jdstrand - i'm not entirely sure atm
[15:37] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: I've been testing build6 -- will you be uploading a final?
[15:37] <chrisccoulson> jdstrand - build6 might be the final, unless mozilla do another respin before release
[15:37] <jdstrand> I see
[15:38] <chrisccoulson> hey micahg
[15:38] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: in the past asac and I would wait 24 hours or so after upstream releases. unless there is an amazingly critical vulnerability, I suggest the same for this update
[15:38] <micahg> hi chrisccoulson
[15:38] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: what do you think?
[15:39] <chrisccoulson> micahg - i'm not sure how busy you are, but we should probably start getting extensions in karmic updated
[15:39] <jdstrand> it would allow more testing time as well as making sure upstream didn't introduce any regressions
[15:39] <chrisccoulson> jdstrand - yeah, that makes sense
[15:39] <jdstrand> cool
[15:39] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I'll start on that tomorrow morning
[15:40] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo_remote: you should have had dart read the wiki. He is not installing it in vmware im 90% sure on that
[15:40] <jdstrand> I don't know releaseing on release day if the testing is there... this is just a hairy update
[15:40] <chrisccoulson> i'm going to fix the issues you reported today, as well as the font issue too (hopefully, if I figure it out)
[15:40] <jdstrand> and any extra time is probably a good thing
[15:40] <jdstrand> err
[15:40] <jdstrand> I don't mind releasing on release day...
[15:40] <chrisccoulson> heh
[15:41] <chrisccoulson> micahg - ok, no worries
[15:42] <mdeslaur> chrisccoulson: what is the "font issue"?
[15:42] <chrisccoulson> mdeslaur, ff3.6 ignores the gnome font settings
[15:43] <chrisccoulson> it does that in lucid too, but the fonts look ok because the hinting is set to slight in fontconfig
[15:43] <micahg> chrisccoulson: there's one more issue blocking 1.9.2.4, so probably a respin will be necessary
[15:43] <chrisccoulson> but in hardy, it is different, and the fonts look terrible after the update
[15:43] <chrisccoulson> micahg - ok, thanks
[15:43] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I expect 3.5.10 to be released this week early w/out the CVEs
[15:43] <mdeslaur> chrisccoulson: oh, right...yeah, that appeared in 3.0 because of an upstream change to fix another issue
[15:44] <chrisccoulson> mdeslaur, it seems to only be exposed when we use the in-tree cairo
[15:44] <chrisccoulson> do you know what the other issue was?
[15:44] <mdeslaur> chrisccoulson: I think it was this: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=385263
[15:45] <mdeslaur> chrisccoulson: for performance reasons
[15:45] <ubot4> Mozilla bug 385263 in Graphics "[pango] we call FT_Open_Face twice per font" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]
[15:45] <mdeslaur> chrisccoulson: see last comment of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=400265
[15:46] <ubot4> Mozilla bug 400265 in Graphics "trunk uses wrong (unwanted) rendering engine for fonts" [Major,New]
[15:47] <chrisccoulson> mdeslaur, thanks
[15:49] <micahg> fta: regarding the patch, I added to xul193, they broke something which doesn't make any logical sense, I'm actually going to switch it to just revert the change they made instead of changing the way it works
[15:49] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: would you mind pinging me when you upload the new xul/ff and whatever fix you had for openjdk/sun-java5 plugins?
[15:50] <micahg> that reminds me, I need to talk to doko :)
[15:50] <fta> micahg, looks like you patched it just to change an --enable-xx to --disable-xx, should not be needed
[15:51] <fta> i mean, a patch should not be needed, even if you don't agree with the default value
[15:51] <micahg> fta: they dropped the explicit setting of disable in the check and now it doesn't work, so I thought, maybe I'll flip the check, but realized a couple hours later that would change that functionality of configure and wouldn't be accepted
[15:52] <micahg> the simplest change is to add back the if-not to the bool check, which is what I'm going to do and let them figure out why it doesn't work anymore w/out it
[15:57] <micahg> fta: full discussion at mozilla 570440
[15:57] <ubot4> Mozilla bug 570440 in Build Config "disable-javaxpcom not recognized after configure.in change" [Normal,Assigned] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=570440
[16:10] <BUGabundo_remote> gnomefreak: I'm too. but  then he will be forced  to install fresh
[16:10] <micahg> chrisccoulson: looks like it'll be 2 more weeks before I can upload rights, I don't have time to get my wiki page up ATM, I figure we'll be busy enough w/out that anyways :)
[16:16] <micahg> chrisccoulson: k, I believe I got the ok to push openjdk for the mozilla updates, I'll try to have this up tonight then
[16:16] <micahg> at least for hardy
[17:07] <Milos_SD> Hi
[17:07] <Milos_SD> I have latest update for Firefox 3.7 and xulrunner 1.9.3 ... but I can't start Firefox
[17:07] <Milos_SD> there is Firefox-3.7 process loaded, but there is no gui or anything else :)
[17:09] <ddecator> Milos_SD: try killing the process and starting it again
[17:09] <Milos_SD> I tryed that
[17:09] <ddecator> still no luck?
[17:09] <Milos_SD> no
[17:10] <ddecator> try launching 'firefox-3.7 -P' and create a new profile, see if it will start then
[17:10] <Milos_SD> if I watch some system monitor app, I can see that nothing is happening, no cpu usage, and no io/wait
[17:11] <Milos_SD> no luck after presing "Start Minefield"
[17:11] <ddecator> strange..and you're using the mozilla team's daily PPA?
[17:11] <Milos_SD> I had a problem like this before, and the problem was in xulrunner
[17:12] <Milos_SD> yes
[17:12] <ddecator> can you pastebin the output you get if you try to start it from a terminal? (paste.ubuntu.com)
[17:12] <Milos_SD> and today I had some xulrunner 1.9.3 update
[17:12] <Milos_SD> no output
[17:12] <Milos_SD> :)
[17:12] <Milos_SD> there is no output
[17:13] <ddecator> oh hey, i'm having the same thing...i wonder if the xr version is past the ff3.7 version again..
[17:14] <micahg> ddecator: trunk is brok
[17:14] <micahg> *broke
[17:14] <ddecator> micahg: thanks, i was just about to ping you
[17:14] <Milos_SD> xr version is 20100606 and firefox is 20100605
[17:14] <Milos_SD> :)
[17:15] <micahg> nah, that should be fine
[17:15] <ddecator> yah, both a5 still though
[17:15] <micahg> I think trunk is actually broke though
[17:15] <ddecator> looks like it
[17:17] <micahg> although ff37 is depwait on xul193, should build soon
[17:19] <micahg> bbiab
[17:56] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: fyi-- https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=620852 just filed. hopefully a patch will be soon
[17:56] <ubot4> Gnome bug 620852 in General "Lacking significant warning on bad certificates" [Critical,Unconfirmed]
[17:58] <fta> jdstrand, thanks for copying chromium to lucid
[17:59] <jdstrand> fta: oh sure, np. thanks for the update :)
[20:05] <fta> micahg, chrisccoulson; is the ffox35 still used?
[20:05] <fta> +ppa
[20:05] <fta> well, this one: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/ppa-dashboard/mozillateam--ffox35.html
[20:05] <micahg> fta: yes, I'm using it for staging for the FF36 upgrades
[20:06] <fta> ok
[20:35] <micahg> fta: BTW, I'll drop the xul193 patch as soon as the one that was approved upstream is checked-in (m-c is currently closed)
[20:35] <fta> micahg, ok
[20:36] <fta> micahg, btw, ff3.7 needs a refresh too. http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/ppa-dashboard/ubuntu-mozilla-daily--ppa.html
[20:37] <micahg> fta: k, I'll try to get that in tonight
[20:40] <micahg> fta: BTW, I have ddecator working on songbird, and WRT to dailies, I hope towards the end of the month I can fix up my server so that I can take those over
[20:40] <fta> good
[21:26] <fta> oh my! langpacks.. http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/ppa-dashboard/ubuntu-mozilla-security--ppa.html  :O
[21:28] <micahg> fta: yep :)
[21:32] <fta> asac, just released my code for those dashboards
[21:32] <fta> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~fta/+junk/ppa-dashboard.trunk
[21:32] <fta> my 1st program in python :S
[21:42] <fta> ripps, ^^
[21:52] <fta> i hate the text that quickly appears when i open a new tab
[22:09] <chrisccoulson> micahg - we have langpacks with 3.6 translations in the PPA for hardy now
[22:09] <chrisccoulson> :)
[22:09] <micahg> yay
[22:44] <BUGabundo> asac: what was that command to see the screen DPI number ?
[22:45] <chrisccoulson> BUGabundo, xdpyinfo will tell you that
[22:45] <BUGabundo> thanks