[02:21] <Jordan_U> hotty_guy4c2c in #ubuntu
[02:22] <Flannel> Jordan_U: He left
[02:23] <Flannel> Only after he was pointed to -women, which makes me headdesk
[02:24] <Flannel> Jordan_U: but, thanks.
[03:18] <elky> I wondered why it'd been so quiet here...
[03:19] <funkyHat> haha
[03:24] <Pici> Did anyone actually tell ActionParsnip not to do that?
[03:25] <elky> Pici, actionparsnip has been warned off every bad support behaviour in the history of bad support.
[03:26] <elky> I'm pretty sure he's contributed to the degradation of society in his persistence.
[03:26] <Flannel> I mentioned it, he said he was attempting to distract
[03:26] <Pici> :(
[03:27] <Flannel> I guess he takes the view of sending-to-another-channel-means-problem-solved
[03:27] <elky> He must have callcenter training under his belt then.
[03:28] <Pici> I have nothing nice to say, so I'll keep my mouth shut.
[06:29] <bazhang> Jessie?
[06:40] <bazhang> clearly drug references
[07:12] <bazhang> rinaldo and jhonharry appear to be the same person
[10:16] <Flannel> !nickspam > autorekick
[10:16] <Flannel> !nickspam > autorejoin
[10:16] <Flannel> Who, both appear to be the same people, and an Ubuntu member at that.
[11:43] <bazhang> #ubuntu-cn op happyaron
[11:44] <jpds> Seriously; kaushal loves to cross-post across multiple channels.
[11:45] <popey> and mailing lists
[13:59] <Pici> Meh. The conversation quality in -offtopic is horrible today.
[14:00] <bazhang> only today?
[14:00] <Pici> More than usual.
[14:00] <IdleOne> Good morning
[14:00] <bazhang> hi
[14:00] <Pici> Hi
[14:01] <IdleOne> I have been thinking about parting -ot for a few weeks just to gte the mind cleared :/
[14:01] <IdleOne> get*
[14:01] <bazhang> it happens. I've done it for a month or so in the past
[14:01] <IdleOne> then again I might miss out on the occasional interesting tid bits
[14:02] <IdleOne> reboot required
[14:03] <gord> there are a bunch of people right now who bring it down but stay within the confines of the coc so not much we can do. honestly if you want the quality to go up its up to you to talk and bring it up :)
[14:04] <knome> couldn't you prove the actually are not obeying the coc somehow?
[14:05] <gord> thats rather underhanded don't you think
[14:05] <IdleOne> back
[14:05] <IdleOne> man maverick reboots fast :)
[14:05] <knome> kind of, but...
[14:05] <IdleOne> knome: as it was explained to me again last night -ot is a little different when it comes to the application of the rules
[14:06] <knome> i understand :)
[14:06] <knome> but still...
[14:06] <gord> the coc is not there to force people out of the community that you don't like
[14:06] <knome> gord, it isn't? ;(
[14:07] <bazhang> NO
[14:07] <IdleOne> gord: there are plenty of people I don't get along with but they all seem able to follow the CoC. Sadly the ones I have a little issue with are actually people I do like
[14:07] <gord> it essentially just boils back to what i was saying, if you want the quality to raise then you need to talk about interesting things and be an example to others. essentially it gets worse the more we back away
[14:07] <IdleOne> but I do agree with gord that the CoC is not about excluding people
[14:08] <knome> bazhang, yes mommy! :P
[14:08] <knome> i understand. i'm just kidding.
[14:09] <knome> just ignore my bad jokes :)
[14:09] <bazhang> hard to tell on the internet
[14:09] <knome> heh
[14:09] <bazhang> especially as relates to that channel
[14:09] <IdleOne> speaking of bad jokes, what's with the k nick knome :P
[14:09] <knome> the "wink" eg. ; told i was kidding
[14:09] <knome> IdleOne, it's not kde
[14:09] <knome> IdleOne, though the nome -part is not gnome either
[14:10] <knome> IdleOne, it's even better than those combined.... it's xfce!
[14:10] <IdleOne> hehe
[14:10] <jussi> so can someone tell me which hat Im allowed to wear now?
[14:10] <IdleOne> I was just being a smarty pants
[14:10] <jussi> errr
[14:10] <knome> ew, kde and gnome combined would be damn bloaty
[14:10] <IdleOne> jussi: chef hat! I'm hungry
[14:10] <knome> jussi, nothing. you must stay naked.
[14:10] <jussi> wrong channel, though knome might know
[14:11] <gord> jussi, all of them at once
[14:11] <gord> the uberhat
[14:11] <knome> jussi, no, i don't think i know the name of the hat
[14:11] <knome> jussi, congrats though :D
[14:11] <jussi> :D
[14:11] <jpds> gord: That would be quite funky.
[14:11] <gnomefreak> if you run into a hat that makes people smarter let me know i need it
[14:12] <jussi> knome: I just dont want to go buy one of the tekkari ones and get beat up :P
[14:18] <jussi> so... thanks to knome I found it:  this is the hat I get to wear :D http://u.nu/49kgb
[14:19] <Pici> Your link doesn't work properly.
[14:19] <jussi> oh I blame fibubot
[14:19] <jussi> https://www.salon.fi/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?search_in_description=1&keywords=tradenomi&osCsid=04923d3124981fd094c85cd73ea8c4f4&x=0&y=0
[14:20] <Pici> Interesting.... o.O
[14:20] <knome> jussi, :)
[14:20] <jussi> better pic: https://www.salon.fi/catalog/popup_image.php?pID=373&osCsid=04923d3124981fd094c85cd73ea8c4f4
[14:20] <IdleOne> jussi: hahahaha love the hat
[14:21]  * jussi wonders why the heck they are so expensive
[14:21] <IdleOne> GET ET!
[14:21] <IdleOne> jussi: you can't put a price on such a sexy hat
[14:21] <jussi> IdleOne: how about you buy it for a graduation gift for me? :D
[14:21] <jussi> :P
[14:21] <IdleOne> jussi: if I had ANY money I would dude
[14:21] <IdleOne> you graduated to/from?
[14:21] <knome> jussi, i can buy you my yo-lakki and then you can sew the rest in
[14:21] <knome> jussi, ;)))
[14:22] <knome> s/buy/sell/
[14:22] <knome> uhhhh
[14:22] <jussi> LOL
[14:22] <knome> :)
[14:22] <jussi> I think when payday comes...
[14:22] <knome> i think i'll have one only if the doomsday comes
[14:22] <knome> or the other way, if i have one, the doomsday comes...
[14:23] <IdleOne> last week I had to spend my savings. Was starting to do good and get a decent amount saved up :/
[14:23] <knome> spend in what?
[14:23] <IdleOne> actually I had to loan it
[14:23] <IdleOne> a loan that will not be repaid
[14:23] <knome> hah
[14:23] <Pici> :(
[14:24] <IdleOne> and I am fine with that but still sucks being broke
[14:24] <knome> that's a good loan..
[14:24] <IdleOne> there are just a couple people in this world that if they ask and I have they get without question.
[14:24] <IdleOne> My mother being one of them people
[14:26] <IdleOne> that reminds me Pici my mentee payment will be late this month
[14:26] <IdleOne> :/
[14:26] <IdleOne> Don't hit me please
[14:26] <IdleOne> :P
[14:26] <Pici> Manatee payments?
[14:27] <IdleOne> lol
[14:27] <IdleOne> No. You told me that all new ops get a mentor but that we have to pay the mentor for the services
[14:27] <Tm_T> and you call -ot crazy ...
[14:27] <IdleOne> Tm_T: I do
[14:28] <Pici> IdleOne: Yeah, but I think the next due date is after the next ircc meeting, which is when we're supposed to decide whether to keep you or return you to the shelter.
[14:29]  * IdleOne is kidding about the mentor payment thing by the way. Logs can be used to turn a simple joke into a OMG did you see what was said in there
[14:29]  * Pici wasn't kidding
[14:29] <IdleOne> I get to go back to the shelter?
[14:30] <IdleOne> I kinda miss that 3X3 wire cage
[14:30]  * h00k yawns
[14:30] <Pici> Maybe some other channel will adopt you.
[14:30] <h00k> hello
[14:30] <bazhang> hi
[14:30] <IdleOne> morning h00k
[14:30] <h00k> morning, IdleOne!
[14:31] <Pici> Hello
[14:31] <IdleOne> Pici: if the powers that be decide to send me back to my hole in the ground can I still keep going to #u?
[14:31] <h00k> Our office just got slammed with either a surge or brownout.
[14:31]  * h00k waits for things to break
[14:32] <Pici> h00k: ooh. Sounds like it'll be an interesting day.
[14:36] <h00k> Pici: I hate Monday's
[14:47] <funkyHat> Monday's what?
[14:47] <knome> mood
[14:55] <h00k> yes
[14:55] <h00k> that
[14:55] <h00k> Monday's attitude.
[14:56]  * funkyHat wiggles
[14:56]  * knome wobbles like a jelly
[14:56] <knome> maybe i should lose some weight
[14:57] <h00k> I'm trying to lose a few pounds
[14:57] <h00k> or...kg. wherever you're from.
[14:57] <knome> i'm trying to gather a few euros
[14:57] <knome> ;)
[14:57] <h00k> heh.
[14:57] <h00k> I hear Euros aren't doing well
[14:57] <knome> they aren't
[14:57] <knome> but they're still valid when you pay the rent
[14:58] <knome> (fortunately)
[14:58] <IdleOne> ha
[14:58] <h00k> the important things
[14:58] <knome> yeah
[14:58] <knome> also you still can buy food with them
[14:58] <knome> at least yesterday you could...
[14:58] <bazhang> parity soon
[14:58] <h00k> and coffee?
[14:59] <knome> coffee as well
[14:59] <knome> h00k, anyway if you want to get rid of your pounds, i'm glad to accept them
[14:59] <knome> ;)
[15:00] <h00k> I have zero pounds :( only US dollars, and not many of them
[15:05] <knome> i have about 4 pounds actually
[15:05] <knome> and 2,5 pounds loaded in an øyster card
[15:05] <funkyHat> alabd is annoying
[15:05] <bazhang> at least he's not cross-posting
[15:06] <Pici> not yet.
[15:07]  * h00k crosses his fingers. All 6 of them
[15:07] <h00k> I jest.
[15:07] <bazhang> :0
[15:07] <funkyHat> h00k was an archer
[15:08] <bazhang> *was*
[15:08] <h00k> Do you know the story behind the middle finger?
[15:09] <funkyHat> Actually it's 2 fingers, which I believe isn't considered offensive in the US
[15:09] <h00k> two or three, depending on your style
[15:09] <funkyHat> three, what?
[15:10] <h00k> fingers for shooting a bow
[15:10] <h00k> what are you talking about?
[15:10]  * h00k fetches coffee
[15:10] <funkyHat> Yes, I was talking about the fingers which would be removed from enemy archers if they were caught
[15:10] <h00k> ahha!
[15:11] <funkyHat> Which in turn led to the taunt of holding 2 fingers up "look I have these fingers I can still shoot you"
[15:11] <h00k> I wonder if that's actually true, the whole enemy-archers-caught-and-index-finger-removed
[15:11] <h00k> I thought it was only the middle one they held up. which ones were cut off?
[15:12] <funkyHat> index and middle
[15:12] <h00k> :o I thought it was only index!
[15:12] <h00k> I was lied to, all this time!
[15:13] <funkyHat> Although this is apparently popular legend
[15:14] <h00k> which of the two versions?
[15:14] <funkyHat> The whole thing
[15:14] <h00k> :(
[15:15] <Pici> meh
[15:20] <h00k> maco: I'm trying to speak with them in /query right now to help direct them
[15:20] <bazhang> I'm in -br right now
[15:21] <h00k> bazhang: are they in there?
[15:21] <bazhang> h00k, not yet
[15:21] <h00k> I love Google Translate.
[15:25] <h00k> bazhang: did they make it?
[15:25] <bazhang> h00k, not yet
[15:25] <Pici> I wonder if dartt is going to ask more 10.04 questions in +1 now./
[15:26] <h00k> Pici: was that an issue before?
[15:26] <Pici> Yes.
[15:27] <Pici> He was there a few minutes ago.
[15:37] <h00k> bazhang: I can only do so much.
[15:37] <bazhang> h00k, not your problem imo, ten different people tried to help him join that channel.
[15:38] <h00k> bazhang: yeah
[15:38] <bazhang> he was saying he got no support there, so wanted support in brasilian in #ubuntu , basically
[15:39] <h00k> I found that out through the /query with him
[15:39] <bazhang> if my brasilian is correct that is
[15:39] <Pici> Ah.
[15:42] <h00k> Google Translate says so
[15:48]  * Pici headdesks
[15:48] <Pici> What is going on today?
[15:49] <elky> Checked the moon phase?
[15:49] <elky> Hmm, nope, that's not it.
[15:57] <bazhang> night all
[15:58] <h00k> Peace :)
[16:01] <Pici> hellwolf06: How can we help you?
[16:03] <h00k> tsimpson, Pici: would you like me to keep my hat on, in case?
[16:04] <Pici> It should be okay, I was just revising my ban.
[16:04] <tsimpson> I was setting a ban, got beaten to the punch :)
[16:04] <h00k> Pici is fast. Fast like Ligntning.
[16:06] <Pici> In fact it was a little bit frightening.
[16:06] <h00k> bans with excellent timingC!
[16:06] <h00k> -C
[16:07] <Pici> hellwolf06: Was there something that we could help you with here?
[16:10] <gord> oh thanks a lot Pici.. seriously. i *just* got that song out of my head since i watched waynes world the other night :(
[16:15] <Pici> okay then
[16:16] <h00k> I'm a little concerned about hellwolf06
[16:17] <funkyHat> h00k: he was trolling in -offtopic a few days ago
[16:40] <Pici> I think that was hamzaatova again.
[16:43] <h00k> I think so also.
[16:50] <funkyHat> Pici: h00k: http://ubottu.com/bans.cgi?log=26109
[16:51] <h00k> @login
[16:51] <Pici> oh dear
[16:51] <h00k> @btlogin
[16:51] <h00k> oh dear?
[16:55] <funkyHat> What would happen if we +b PigeonCluster!*@* in -offtopic? Would it just not let blendmaster1024 set that as his nick?
[16:56] <funkyHat> He basically gets away with having an away nick, but it's just as annoying
[16:56] <Pici> He could set it, but wouldn't be able to talk or rejoin with it.
[16:56] <Pici> or set it back if he was already in the channel with it
[19:14]  * h00k sighs
[19:53] <Pici> ty h00k
[19:54] <h00k> Pici: you're welcome
[19:54] <ikonia> offtopic is full of morons - this ends now
[19:55] <h00k> I'm tired of it.
[19:56] <ikonia> I don't think he was being sexist, just having a little fun
[19:56] <h00k> meh, the 'girls don't get mario'
[19:57] <h00k> ?
[19:57] <Pici> ikonia: he thinks you're woman.
[19:57] <ikonia> men don't get back street boys ?
[19:57] <ikonia> it's an opinion
[19:57] <h00k> :D
[19:57] <ikonia> getting abuse from vrxchk in pm now
[19:58] <ikonia> whoaaa I've been kicked out of #ubuntu-women
[19:58] <ikonia> and now I'm not invited
[19:58] <ikonia> great
[19:59] <Pici> huh?
[19:59] <h00k> wait, what?
[19:59] <Pici> When?
[19:59] <ikonia> just went to rejoin #ubuntu-women and my window had closed, and rejoined and it said "invite only"
[19:59] <Pici> Its been invite only for week or two now.
[19:59] <h00k> I just joined
[19:59] <ikonia> Pici: but I was in it when it was set
[19:59] <Pici> So was I.
[19:59] <h00k> wait, maybe I'm not
[19:59] <ikonia> I didn't realise I wasn't on the list
[19:59] <Pici> ikonia: You'd need an invite exception set.
[20:00] <ikonia> only just realised when my session must have dropped or I got kicked
[20:00] <Pici> ikonia: h00k and I can probably get in because we have ubuntu member cloaks.
[20:00] <ikonia> ah
[20:00] <h00k> Oh, that would be it
[20:01] <Pici> I could op up and check the list, but thats probably it.
[20:01] <Pici> ikonia: poke pleia or akgraner or some other awake op and see if you can get in.  Or someone in their forward channel.
[20:01] <ikonia> Pici: just asked in -u-w-project
[20:01] <ikonia> that should sort it
[20:03] <pleia2> ikonia: #ubuntu-women-invites is the proper place ;)
[20:03] <ikonia> pleia2: ughhh sorry
[20:03] <pleia2> anyway, you're invited
[20:03] <ikonia> how odd, I was already in there ??
[20:03] <Pici> Sorry if that hilighted you.
[20:03] <ikonia> thank you
[20:12] <h00k> alabd is back to asking questions in #ubuntu, at least he's still not crossposting
[20:12] <ikonia> he's toast if he does, he's had enough warnings
[20:12] <Pici> Well, 'is cloud computing available on desktop or only server' is somewhat okay of a question.
[20:12] <Pici> but only somewhat.
[20:12] <h00k> yeah
[20:12] <ikonia> it's a fine question
[20:12] <ikonia> nothing unreasonable about that
[20:13] <h00k> I still wonder if he's writing a book about this?
[20:13] <Pici> Except if you don't understand what 'cloud computing' is.
[20:13] <ikonia> it's like a pop quiz, can I name the cloud api's
[20:13] <ikonia> h00k: he's not
[20:13] <Pici> I thought he was.
[20:13] <gord> hehe my server is crazy, i added 512 mb ram to it on the web page, checked /proc/meminfo and vroom, its at 512mb more! no rebooting or anything
[20:13] <h00k> ikonia: I think he clamed to a few times
[20:13] <gord> that is just insane
[20:14] <ikonia> h00k: claim != face
[20:14] <ikonia> fact
[20:14] <h00k> ikonia: it's true
[20:14] <Pici> gord: oh. I thought for a second you were talking about that 'download more ram' website.
[20:14] <gord> yes i'm talking about real stuff ;)
[20:15] <h00k> like in the bottom of a crackerjack box?
[20:15] <ikonia> I'm going home
[20:15] <ikonia> enough
[20:15] <ikonia> laters all
[20:15] <h00k> Peace, ikonia
[20:15] <Pici> cya
[20:29] <Jordan_U> ht in #ubuntu
[20:30] <Jordan_U> Thanks
[20:30] <tsimpson> :)
[20:31] <h00k> bah, missed that.
[20:31] <h00k> I should add that word on hilight
[20:32] <knome> h00k, /hilight that
[20:32] <knome> ;)
[20:32] <h00k> knome: yes
[20:32] <h00k> and done.
[20:32] <knome> you'd get lots of hilights
[20:32] <Pici> I have that on hilight in #u and #u-offtopic
[20:32] <knome> if you hilighted "that"
[20:33] <h00k> of course I didn't add 'that'
[20:33] <h00k> I'm not that silly
[20:33] <knome> ;)
[20:33] <h00k> I also should add that only for those two channels
[20:33] <tsimpson> I'd blush if anyone saw my highlight list
[20:34] <knome> tsimpson, "knitting" "sewing" etc?
[20:34] <Pici> I actually don't have that many swear words in mine, its mostly exploit websites.
[20:35] <tsimpson> I need to convert my list to regexp's, it's mostly several variations on certain words
[20:35] <h00k> well, it hilighted the pm tab but not the containing line for me
[20:35] <h00k> I wonder if it'll just work in a channel properly
[20:35] <Pici> h00k: irssi?
[20:35] <h00k> Pici: yes
[20:36] <Pici> /hilight -word frell -channels #ubuntu,#ubuntu-offtopic
[20:36] <h00k> yay
[20:36] <h00k> and done.
[20:38] <h00k> thanks, Pici.
[20:39] <Pici> h00k: no problem
[20:39] <h00k> One day, I won't be completely incompetent with somethings.
[20:39] <Pici> If I didn't have any hilights setup I'd be at a loss on how to configure them properly too.
[20:40] <h00k> I do have a few, but I think I added a word a long time ago, forgot how, and looked at my irssi config file, copied the lines/made changes, and reloaded the config
[20:40] <h00k> Also, there is documentation online I could look at
[20:40] <Pici> irssi.org has a documentation section, also their official channel is #irssi
[20:41] <h00k> yes
[20:41] <h00k> http://www.irssi.org/documentation ta-da!
[20:45] <h00k> I don't see that word in my config file
[20:45] <Pici> Which?
[20:45] <Pici> Make sure you /save first
[20:45] <funkyHat> The word has to be at the end
[20:45] <h00k> ahha!
[20:46] <Pici> /save and /layout save  are handy and I always forget to use them.
[20:46] <funkyHat> -word doesn't mean "the word follows this" just "highlight the word rather than the whole line"
[20:46] <Pici> I know.
[20:47] <Pici> Its just what my hilight for that looks like, and its handy instead of looking at the line and wondering "Why did this set off my hilights?"
[20:47]  * h00k saves layouts
[20:49] <h00k> cool.
[21:02] <h00k> meh.
[21:15] <h00k> watch for denemee spamming inappropriate links
[22:27] <funkyHat> !-puregnome
[22:47] <R3cur51v3> Hello. I was kb'd from #ubuntu-offtopic for posting a disguised rm -rf / command. I'm sorry for doing so and won't do it again. Can my ability to join the channel be restored?
[22:47] <R3cur51v3> It was on a different IP
[22:49] <h00k> R3cur51v3: Flannel was the one that banned you, you'll have to speak with him.
[22:49] <h00k> R3cur51v3: in the meantime, I suggest making sure you are familiar with the guidelines and code of conduct
[22:49] <h00k> !guidelines > R3cur51v3
[22:49] <h00k> !codeofconduct > R3cur51v3
[22:52] <h00k> okay.
[22:53] <mneptok> Dear ISP, Can my ability to join the channel be restored?
[23:29] <Pici> h00k: Feel free to turn tht into a ban if you wish, I haven't been watching him, just saw that last comment and know that he was warned much earlier today about his behavior.
[23:29] <Pici> If there have been infractions since, do what you think needs to be done.
[23:29] <h00k> Pici: he was, it's true. I'll set it and have him come here if needed.
[23:31] <h00k> Pici: and done. Thanks :)
[23:31] <h00k> Pici: it was more/less on the line all day
[23:39] <Pici> again
[23:40] <IdleOne> tsimpson: tag team
[23:41] <tsimpson> I'm lagging a little from downloading the lucid DVD :)
[23:42] <IdleOne> I was only going to remove but you added the ban  :)
[23:42] <tsimpson> he was ban evading anyway
[23:42] <Pici> I was trying to decide whether to kick or kickban
[23:42] <Pici> yes
[23:42] <Pici> at least two bans
[23:42] <IdleOne> I didn't know that
[23:42] <IdleOne> Well done
[23:43] <tsimpson> that hamzaatova_ guy
[23:43] <IdleOne> ahh
[23:43] <IdleOne> yeah he is a habitual breaker of the rules
[23:43] <IdleOne> warned many times
[23:43] <Pici> Well, he snapped this time
[23:44] <IdleOne> snapped?
[23:49] <tsimpson> well, he won't be back as "ht" now
[23:50] <tsimpson> just keep an eye out for people from red.bezeqint.net
[23:50] <IdleOne> commited to memory
[23:50] <Pici> Oh, and cursing ubuntu on entry
[23:50] <Pici> that too
[23:51] <tsimpson> he joined a few times before doing that
[23:52] <tsimpson> as yf, yf2, vvvb and vvvb2
[23:52] <Pici> oh, I must have missed it
[23:52] <IdleOne> testing the waters to see if any of us are active
[23:54] <tsimpson> Pici: see #freenode
[23:55] <tsimpson> (excuse the flood)
[23:55] <tsimpson> * vvvb2 (~ht@bzq-79-183-4-243.red.bezeqint.net) has joined #freenode
 hi all!!! how can i use irc proxies? what do i need to choose on xchat? sock5? where do i find the servers? is that one good? http://www.proxy4free.info/proxy-list/socks-4/5-proxies/high-availability-on-port-1080-and-uncommon.html
[23:55] <h00k> is this something we should let staff know?
[23:55] <IdleOne> if he said that in the channel they probably saw
[23:55] <tsimpson> freenode doesn't allow proxies anyway
[23:57] <Pici> marienz: see above
[23:57] <marienz> they're in #freenode
[23:57] <Pici> We know
[23:57] <marienz> oh, they're trying to banevade?
[23:57] <Pici> Just telling you that he intends to use whatever to evade our bans
[23:57] <marienz> sorry, I'm slow
[23:57] <Pici> its okay, *pat*
[23:57] <h00k> marienz: I forgive you :)
[23:58] <h00k> what the heck window is freeno-oh, there it is
[23:58] <jpds> When you're competing against the speed of live, being slow is not good...
[23:58] <h00k> bburhans: hello, how can we help you?
[23:58] <h00k> nevermind then
[23:59] <marienz> and sure, let us know (although he's probably trying to use open proxies that won't work anyway)