[03:25] <czajkowski> akgraner: how's the shoulder
[03:25] <akgraner> czajkowski, the should is feeling better but the are isn't
[03:26] <akgraner> I find out tomorrow if they were able to move me surgery date up
[03:26] <czajkowski> are?
[03:26] <akgraner> I can't wait 3 more weeks
[03:26] <czajkowski> ohhh feck
[03:26] <czajkowski> must be bad when you;re admitting that
[03:27] <akgraner> nods
[03:27] <akgraner> and I *hate* admitting that  - but I human :-)
[03:27] <czajkowski> fecking calls from exs and not being able to sleep is not a good combo
[03:31] <valorie> {{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}} to you two
[03:31] <valorie> gentle hugs
[06:32] <AlanBell> akgraner: I was just wondering if the wiki still needed to be locked down
[06:38] <valorie> is anyone lurking in #defocus and such?
[06:39] <valorie> untill the gnaa vs whoever fight is over
[06:39] <valorie> we'll be a target
[06:39] <rww> valorie: yes
[06:39] <valorie> oh good
[06:41] <valorie> I never thought we were a primary target
[06:41] <valorie> just a convenient arena for their posturing
[06:51] <hypatia> they are still lurking in #u-w-i
[06:52] <valorie> fun, fun
[06:53]  * hypatia sighs
[07:00] <AlanBell> #u-w-i?
[07:00] <rww> AlanBell: #ubuntu-women-invites
[07:59] <dholbach> good morning
[08:29] <svaksha> valorie: gnaa?
[08:29]  * svaksha does not remember all the acronyms
[08:30] <AlanBell> svaksha: that isn't a repeatable one
[09:22] <valorie> sorry, shouldn't have repeated that in here
[09:22] <valorie> :(
[11:02] <czajkowski> aloha
[17:22] <czajkowski> hypatia: loved your blog post!
[17:24] <hypatia> thanks :)
[17:25] <Pendulum> hypatia: that sounds really awesome
[17:28] <hypatia> ^_^
[17:29] <Pendulum> if manually propelling a wheelchair didn't mean I constantly break nails...
[17:32] <nigelb> hypatia: you're blogging again?
[17:33] <hypatia> nigelb: i wouldn't get too excited, but i'll try to post more :)
[17:34] <nigelb> hypatia: I picked up quite recently.  Also, now its very easy to screw things I suppose since the screw would stick to your nails :)
[17:35] <hypatia> oh crap i forgot to mention that!  that's the best part.
[17:35] <jussi> someone want to link me to hypatia's blog?
[17:35] <Pendulum> http://hypatia.ca/2010/06/magnetic-fingernails/
[17:35] <hypatia> Pablos was disassembling his macbook and one of the screws fell out and stuck to his finger :D :D
[17:36] <nigelb> hypatia: wow! awesome!
[17:36] <hypatia> yeah :D
[17:36]  * nigelb renames hypatia to robogeek!
[17:37] <nigelb> Also, I used to bite my nails as a kid.  My teacher put masking tape on my hands.  Stopped then and there :)
[17:38]  * jussi has zucchini slice in the oven, nom!
[17:38] <jussi> I love zucchini slice, not only delicious, its so _easy_ to make :)
[17:40] <nigelb> jussi: not a big fan of zucchini :/
[17:40] <Pendulum> jussi: yum :)
[17:40] <jussi> nigelb: dont worry, its not got a really zucchini taste - I am not such a big fan, i find it soggy usually but this is awesome
[17:41] <jussi> not including backing time it takes about 10-15 mins to make, depending if youve an electic/automatic grater or not
[17:41] <nigelb> thats convinient :)
[17:43] <jussi> if anyone wnats the recipe, just pm me. :)
[17:51] <AlanBell> hypatia: wow, very cool hack!
[17:51] <czajkowski> Pendulum: see cute caoimhe pics :)
[17:51] <AlanBell> would have been handy when ripping jussi's mac to bits
[17:52] <jussi> hehe
[17:52] <jussi> yea
[17:52] <czajkowski> oh that was amusing
[17:53] <jussi> ?
[17:53] <jussi> the mac ripping?
[17:53] <Pendulum> there was a spa there, we could have all had our nails done for it
[17:53] <czajkowski> http://pix.ie/czajkowski/1678003/in/album/376810
[17:53] <czajkowski> http://pix.ie/czajkowski/1678006/in/album/376810
[17:59] <jussi> oh lol
[17:59] <jussi> they dont show the dirt very well...
[18:00] <jussi> and poor AlanBell's face got hidden...
[18:00] <AlanBell> yeah, I am just a collection of body parts in the photos
[18:00]  * AlanBell could have phrased that better
[18:00] <jussi> lol
[18:01] <czajkowski> AlanBell: bless :p
[18:01] <jussi> and this photo... well I just get reminded of popey's disgust for maplesyrup + bacon.... http://pix.ie/czajkowski/1678004/in/album/376810
[18:01] <AlanBell> for example: http://pix.ie/czajkowski/1678029/in/album/376810
[18:01] <czajkowski> AlanBell: http://pix.ie/czajkowski/1678002/size/800
[18:02] <czajkowski> oh bacon and syrup
[18:02] <czajkowski> nyommy
[18:02] <jussi> yup
[18:02] <pleia2> akgraner: who do we talk to to get our wiki un-locked-down?
[18:03] <czajkowski> pleia2: elmo?
[18:03] <popey> :) work of the devil, that stuff
[18:03] <pleia2> czajkowski: ok, I know they were doing some investigation on a couple things, wasn't sure who was heading that up
[18:04] <czajkowski> pleia2: ah ok
[18:15] <akgraner> pleia2, sorry just got back
[18:15] <akgraner> had to see about getting my AC fixed in my car
[18:15] <czajkowski> akgraner: you're all out broken aren't you
[18:16] <akgraner> yeah - well it was about time something broke in my car :-)
[18:16] <akgraner> 4 years and almost 150K in miles something was bound to need fixing soon :-)
[18:17] <akgraner> pleia2, did you get that worked out or do you still need someone?
[18:17] <Pendulum> akgraner: well done that this was the first
[18:17] <pleia2> akgraner: we still need someone
[18:17] <akgraner> Pendulum, I thought so :-)  I do try to take care of my stuff
[18:18] <akgraner> pleia2, ok  - hmmm I thought we would be able to un-lock
[18:18] <pleia2> if we do, I don't know how :)
[18:18] <pleia2> would be nice to know htough
[18:18] <pleia2> though
[18:19] <akgraner> I was just going to ask in the sysadmin channel then email elmo as well :-)
[18:19] <AlanBell> might be worth locking the front page down still
[18:19] <pleia2> would also be nice to know if us wiki admins can block individual users
[18:20] <akgraner> pleia2, one sec and let's figure out what all we would like to do and let's just send one email
[18:20] <pleia2> thank you :)
[18:21] <akgraner> I just walked in the door :-) need to grab something to drink and move to a more comfortable seat...
[18:21] <pleia2> no problem, take your time
[18:22] <pleia2> so my questions: Can the admins listed at http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/AdminGroup block individual users and do they have the ability to turn on/off wiki-wide immutable status?
[18:22]  * pleia2 back to work now
[18:25] <akgraner> gotcha :-)  I'll shoot you a link once I have it drafted for you to tweak if need be - thanks
[19:08] <MarkDude> akgraner, when can I best be used for SELF. I am trying to figure out my schedule for Friday. Courtney can help with Ubucon on part of Friday also
[19:08] <akgraner> oh awesome!
[19:09] <akgraner> Friday I could use someone - for a couple of hours, and Sunday for an hour or so.  If any wants to they can also help at the Ubuntu Booth on Saturday as well.
[19:09] <MarkDude> We'll have to do some stuff prepping for Zareason booth. We'' be busy there during expo hours
[19:09] <czajkowski> akgraner: fly me over and I'll be there :p
[19:09] <akgraner> right now looks like we will have 103 people attending the UbuCon on Friday and almost 90 on Sunday
[19:10] <pleia2> wow, nice :)
[19:10] <akgraner> czajkowski, oh if I were wealthy  - I so would :-)
[19:10] <akgraner> pleia2, yeah I thought so
[19:10] <akgraner> now I am wondering if the room is big enough :-/
[19:11] <MarkDude> We might have some time Thursday night, depending on when we get the shuttle over. We are staying in the sketchville section of Charlotte on Wed
[19:11] <akgraner> ahh ok - hmmm I was trying to see if my schedule would allow for time and I would drive up and pick you all up
[19:12] <akgraner> Let me see if one of my parents or my sister can pick ya up
[19:12] <akgraner> it's an hour+ from Charlotte to Spartanburg
[19:12] <akgraner> I'd hate for you to pay for a shuttle/taxi
[19:13] <MarkDude> ok, gtswagger told me he should be able to get a shuttle ride, still have not heard the price :(
[19:13] <akgraner> MarkDude, ok let me know - I have to go over to my parents tonight - I'll still ask them
[19:13] <MarkDude> As long as we need not hitchike :)
[19:13] <akgraner> they are good peoples :-)  and they're nicer than me
[19:14] <MarkDude> Sounds good
[19:14] <AlanBell> unpossible!
[19:14]  * MarkDude is afraid that Dale Peterson will be there to pick me up :D
[19:15] <MarkDude> SELF off topic scared me
[19:15] <MarkDude> lol
 O deservedly got teased for the dude thing
[19:17] <akgraner> hehe
[20:01] <ikonia> hello, can I please get an except from #ubuntu-women I don't wear a members cloak so can't get back in after my session dropped
[22:59] <Pendulum> one of my mates just bought a netbook with "Windows 7 Starter Edition"
[23:00] <Pendulum> turns out Starter Edition is shorthand for "will not let you do anything including change your wallpaper without upgrading at a cost of $119-$219"
[23:00] <AlanBell> time to install Ubuntu Finished Edition
[23:00] <Pendulum> yeah
[23:00] <Pendulum> I've already suggested it to her
[23:01] <Pendulum> I'm a little nervous because she got an Eee a couple years ago that I think must have been a lemon so I'm not sure how Linux-friendly she feels
[23:02] <elly> maybe we should start marketing it as Ubuntu Ultimate?
[23:02] <Pendulum> haha
[23:03] <Pendulum> I've pointed out that Ubuntu as an OS is small enough that she can even choose between the netbook edition and the full version
[23:10] <czajkowski> elly: your @hat is showing :)
[23:10] <elly> indeed it is, czajkowski
[23:10] <elly> if I take it off, it disappears :P
[23:20] <czajkowski> hmm
[23:22] <czajkowski> elly: not very helpful
[23:22] <elly> sorry!
[23:22] <elly> elky opped me here after I got ops in #u-w
[23:23] <czajkowski> elly: right bbut you don't need to remain opped up
[23:23] <elly> czajkowski: yeah - I just can't reop myself if I deop
[23:24] <czajkowski> pleia2: ping
[23:25] <pleia2> czajkowski: hey
[23:25] <czajkowski> pleia2: can you help sort out elly op issue otherwise she remains opped up which isn't nice to see
[23:25] <rww> how come #ubuntu-women-project and #ubuntu-women have different access lists, anyway? I remember this being an issue for someone the other day too :\
[23:26] <Pendulum> it was one for me
[23:26] <pleia2> rww: we don't need as many ops here :)
[23:26] <Pendulum> I was told I had ops here, but I couldn't op up or something like that
[23:26] <elly> atheme has a feature in the works that will allow mirrored access lists, by the way
[23:26] <Pendulum> personally, I think it's a little confusing because most people assume if you have ops in one, you have ops in both
[23:26] <czajkowski> pleia2: thats what I thought
[23:26] <elly> well, here
[23:27] <elly> I do not feel like I really need ops here
[23:27] <pleia2> elly: sorted now
[23:27] <czajkowski> pleia2: cheers
[23:27] <elly> oh, well, thanks :)
[23:27] <pleia2> Pendulum: you too
[23:27] <czajkowski> elly: sorry, it's just not nie seeing opped up folks unless there is a need
[23:28] <elly> czajkowski: no, I quite understand
[23:28] <czajkowski> grand job
[23:34] <maco> elly: there *is* an Ubuntu Ultimate Edition. it's not supported in #ubuntu
[23:34] <elly> maco: haha, really?
[23:35] <maco> elly: yeah its an unofficial derivative
[23:36] <rww> (it isn't surprisingly enough, ultimate)
[23:36]  * rww throws another comma in there
[23:37] <czajkowski>  11.04 UDS - October 25-29 (2010)
[23:37] <czajkowski>         11.10 UDS - May 9-13 (2011)
[23:37] <czajkowski>         12.04 UDS - October 24-28 (2011)
[23:37] <Pendulum> nigelb: ^^
[23:41] <JanC> "Ubuntu Ultimate Edition" was really "Ubuntu Ultimately Illegal Edition"  ;)
[23:47] <maco> JanC: so um... Mint?
[23:51] <IdleOne> good for the breath
[23:58] <JanC> maco: Mint at least doesn't pretend it's Ubuntu and provides its own support?  ;)
[23:58] <JanC> (and it seems to be better engineered too)