[00:26] <goodtime_> well it runs better except the ram is to the roof
[00:26] <goodtime_> i reinstalled 64 bit this time
[00:26] <goodtime_> looks better too
[00:27] <goodtime_> idk maybe this thing is on the fritz
[00:28] <goodtime_> the  god damb thing is doing the network shit again
[00:28] <Chesamo> !language
[00:28] <ubot2> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[00:28] <goodtime_> i wonder if its my isp doing it
[00:28] <goodtime_> ok
[00:28] <goodtime_> sorry
[00:28] <Chesamo> I know it's frustrating, I understand
[00:28] <Chesamo> still
[00:28] <goodtime_> i can do that
[00:29] <goodtime_> your right
[00:29] <goodtime_> so do you think that i need to do something
[00:29] <Chesamo> I'm trying to think of what it could be
[00:29] <Chesamo> it's a very odd thing to happen
[00:29] <Chesamo> You haven't installed any extra applications yet, right?
[00:29] <goodtime_> just this one
[00:30] <goodtime_> konversation
[00:30] <Chesamo> So it's not a bug in a program or else it'd be more widespread...
[00:30] <goodtime_> thats my irc client
[00:30] <Chesamo> I'm just trying to narrow down what it could be
[00:30] <Chesamo> You're using Kubuntu?
[00:30] <goodtime_> ubuntu 10.04
[00:31] <Chesamo> Really? You're using a Qt app in the GNOME environment?
[00:31] <goodtime_> yes
[00:31] <Chesamo> Hm
[00:31] <goodtime_> works fine too
[00:31] <Chesamo> Yeah I know
[00:31] <Chesamo> Just a little quirk of mine
[00:32] <goodtime_> ive heard that sometime one might need to alowcate there ram
[00:32] <goodtime_> how do i do that
[00:33] <Chesamo> You don't manuallt allocate RAM, it's something the kernel does automatically when proegrams are run.
[00:33] <Chesamo> manually*
[00:33] <goodtime_> i realy dont spell well sorry
[00:33] <Chesamo> How large is your swap partition?
[00:33] <stlsaint> sup all
[00:33] <goodtime_> 5gig
[00:33] <goodtime_> lo
[00:33] <Chesamo> Yikes o_o
[00:33] <Chesamo> How much RAM have you got?
[00:34] <goodtime_> 2gig lol
[00:34] <goodtime_> i need to change that dont i
[00:34] <Chesamo> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/ Put the output of "top" here
[00:34] <goodtime_> ok
[00:35] <stlsaint> swap doesnt need to be all that big if you want to go past 4gigs
[00:38] <stlsaint> goodtime_: 2gbs is fine...i run three os's of 2gig of swap
[00:38] <goodtime_> it isnt letting me copy and paste
[00:38] <goodtime_> it keeps jummping around in the terminal
[00:38] <Chesamo> goodtime_ kill top by hitting ctrl+c
[00:39] <Chesamo> then paste the output
[00:40] <goodtime_> i did it ty:)
[00:40] <Chesamo> goodtime_ Then link the Pastebin please
[00:40] <goodtime_> ok
[00:41] <goodtime_> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/
[00:41] <Chesamo> No, goodtime, you have to hit "submit"
[00:41] <Chesamo> Er, "Paste!"
[00:41] <stlsaint> LOL
[00:42] <goodtime_> idk i dont see a submit
[00:42] <goodtime_> i dont understand
[00:43] <goodtime_> i got it i think idk
[00:43] <Chesamo> goodtime_ Copu the output of the (now-stopped) "top" command into the pastebin, then hit "paste"
[00:44] <Chesamo> copy*
[00:44] <Chesamo> then link us to the next page.
[00:44] <goodtime_> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/446347/
[00:45] <goodtime_> sorry there i got a little confused
[00:45] <stlsaint> compiz FTW!!!
[00:45] <Chesamo> goodtime_ Xorg's at the top... no surprise there.... It looks like Firefox is taking a fair amount of resources
[00:46] <stlsaint> youve got a zombie!! :D
[00:46] <goodtime_> great
[00:46] <goodtime_> :(
[00:46] <Chesamo> goodtime_ Don't worry, a zombie isn't a bad thing :P They're just kidding.
[00:46] <stlsaint> or am i >:)
[00:47] <goodtime_> :)
[00:47] <goodtime_>  :)
[00:48] <Chesamo> goodtime_ turn off the system monitor
[00:48] <goodtime_> ok
[00:48] <Chesamo> ...
[00:48] <Chesamo> goodtime_ Firefox is taking 552 mb of RAM
[00:49] <goodtime_> ok ill use opera
[00:49] <Chesamo> goodtime_ You doing something Flash- or Java-intensive?
[00:49] <stlsaint> better yet use chrome
[00:49] <goodtime_> but im defaulted to firefox
[00:50] <goodtime_> idk Chesamo
[00:50] <Chesamo> goodtime_: System > Preferences > Preferred Applications
[00:50] <goodtime_> ty
[00:51] <Chesamo> goodtime_ Let me know. If you want, you can just remove FF completely.
[00:51] <Chesamo> stlsaint Or better yet, Iron
[00:51] <goodtime_> i want
[00:52] <Chesamo> goodtime_ In Terminal, enter "sudo aptitude purge firefox && rm -r ~/.mozilla", and that'll remove FF completely from your system
[00:52] <goodtime_> ok
[00:52] <goodtime_> as root?
[00:52] <goodtime_> sudo yes
[00:52] <Chesamo> goodtime_ Yes, you use sudo, but no you don't actually have to bee root
[00:52] <Chesamo> be*
[00:54] <stlsaint> Chesamo: meh
[00:54] <goodtime_> its done
[00:54] <goodtime_> sould i reboot
[00:54] <stlsaint> Chesamo: go super dork with elinks!! :D
[00:54] <goodtime_> the ram is still at the top
[00:55] <Chesamo> goodtime_ Yeah, just to clear it out
[00:55] <goodtime_> brb
[00:55] <Chesamo> stlsaint :P
[01:01] <goodtime_> down to 22% ram
[01:01] <Chesamo> Cool :D
[01:01] <goodtime_> a little better there Chesamo
[01:02] <Chesamo> Better than topping out
[01:02] <goodtime_> ty very much
[01:02] <Chesamo> You're very welcome
[01:02] <goodtime_>  :)
[01:03] <goodtime_> ok now why is my network slowly filling up my hdd
[01:04] <Chesamo> Your network?
[01:04] <goodtime_> yeah
[01:04] <Chesamo> What are you doing that's using the Internet?
[01:04] <goodtime_> 595 bytes
[01:04] <goodtime_> nothing
[01:05] <goodtime_> im kinda idle
[01:05] <Chesamo> 595 bytes is nothing
[01:05] <Chesamo> it's half a kilobyte'
[01:05] <goodtime_> so i dont have to worry
[01:08] <goodtime_> hey i like this browser
[01:08] <stlsaint> what browser?
[01:08] <goodtime_> chromium
[01:09] <stlsaint> yep yep...chrome is the fastest browser out right now
[01:09] <Chesamo> Opera 10.5x beats it
[01:10] <Chesamo> But NoooOOOOooo Opera 10.5x is only in Alpha for Linux
[01:10] <stlsaint> oh dear...another opera victim!
[01:11] <goodtime_> ill brb have to goto store
[01:11] <stlsaint> hehe, even if you test out chrome inside a vm running another vm its till faster than ff and opera
[01:11] <Chesamo> Have you speed-tested Opera 10.5x?
[01:12] <stlsaint> i did like way back in 8.10 or 9.04
[01:12] <stlsaint> ubuntu that is....
[01:12] <Chesamo> So nothing recent
[01:13] <stlsaint> what speeds are it posting?
[01:14] <Chesamo> http://lifehacker.com/5457242/browser-speed-tests-firefox-36-chrome-4-opera-105-and-extensions  Opera ties the Chrome developer version, but outstrips it in speed.
[01:18] <Chesamo> Also Opera was excluded from the "memory use with extensions" because Opera doesn't need extensions.
[01:18] <stlsaint> and from what i see chorme is still better than opera
[01:18] <Chesamo> How?
[01:20] <stlsaint> "if you're using Opera 10.01, you have almost no reason not to upgrade."
[01:21] <Chesamo> Yes
[01:21] <Chesamo> to 10.5x.
[01:21] <Chesamo> Which was the browser being tested :'
[01:22] <stlsaint> but on the test in which chorme won are want im most interesting in, primarily cold/warm starts and tab load handling
[01:22] <Chesamo> Opera won the cold/warm starts
[01:23] <stlsaint> meh, id say split tie...opera won cold starts but NO browser touches chrome on warm starts
[01:23] <Chesamo> By a fraction of a second...
[01:24] <stlsaint> naw pal thats more than a fraction
[01:24] <Chesamo> Seconds (fewer is better)
[01:25] <Chesamo> I'd say that's about one-half of a second (Chrome stable) and one second (Opera 10.5)
[01:25] <Chesamo> So half a second
[01:25] <Chesamo> Less time than it takes to blink
[01:26] <stlsaint> ive used opera before and ive yet to see a brower warm start as fast as chrome...
[01:26] <stlsaint> Chesamo: none the less we can both agree that firefox doesnt hold a candle to either browsers
[01:26] <Chesamo> Chome warm starts way longer than Opera does on all of my systems. OSX, Ubuntu, Windows
[01:26] <Chesamo> Oh, certainly! I've never liked FF.
[01:26] <Chesamo> Chrome*
[01:27] <Chesamo> I've never been on the FF bandwagon. My coworkers thought I was weird :c
[01:27] <stlsaint> i must admit that i was once very fond of firefox and i even still have it on my system for those old strolls down memory land
[01:27] <stlsaint> s/land/lane
[01:28] <Chesamo> I've really always stuck by Opera. I switched to Chromium for a while, then Iron, then back to Opera.
[01:30] <stlsaint> ive never put iron on my system...merely seen it in action on a friends system
[01:30] <Chesamo> Once 10.5 was released on Linux I hopped right back on. They fixed everything that made me switch to Chrome :P
[01:31] <Chesamo> Iron's just Chrome put out by someone other than Google.
[01:35] <stlsaint> figures
[01:36] <stlsaint> i dont like how "in touch" chrome is with google servers in relaying info
[01:38] <stlsaint> switchgirl: sup
[01:51] <switchgirl> hi anyone know where i can get a charging station to put on my drive for a electric /hybrid car?
[01:51] <switchgirl> i'm looking for a supplier
[01:56] <stlsaint> nope
[02:31] <Cinnamon> hello
[02:32] <tenach> Hello Cinnamon
[02:32] <Cinnamon> im new at this
[02:33] <tenach> Welcome, then!
[02:33] <tenach> :D
[02:33] <Cinnamon> thanks
[02:33] <h00k> Cinnamon: hello
[02:33] <tenach> Is there anything I might be able to help you with?
[02:34] <Cinnamon> well rgiht now im downloading my gpu driver
[02:34] <Cinnamon> wiht the hardware driver thing
[02:34] <tenach> Using an NVidia card?
[02:35] <Cinnamon> yep
[02:35] <Cinnamon> and old 6200
[02:35] <Cinnamon> an
[02:35] <tenach> Mine isn't much better - 6800
[02:36] <Cinnamon> but this is a old pc
[02:37] <Cinnamon> AMD athlon 3000
[02:37] <Cinnamon> wiht 1gb ddr ram
[02:38] <tenach> I remember having one of thse
[02:38] <tenach> *those
[02:38] <tenach> I still think it did better than this newer machine with a Celeron D processor.
[02:38] <Cinnamon> my main pc is much better
[02:38] <tenach> :/
[02:40] <Cinnamon> im having trouble with flash
[02:40] <tenach> What sort of problem?
[02:40] <Cinnamon> it says i need a plugin
[02:41] <tenach> Yes, that is normal.
[02:41] <tenach> it should bring up a window with three options
[02:41] <Cinnamon> w8 nvm it works
[02:41] <Cinnamon> lol
[02:41] <tenach> :)
[02:41] <stlsaint> :|
[02:42] <Cinnamon> need to try to get the sound
[02:44] <tenach> Make sure that it is not muted in the sound preferences - I have had installs start muted.
[02:44] <Cinnamon> ok
[02:46] <Cinnamon> i'll deal with it  some other day
[02:47] <tenach> Dont' forget to check the forums for answers to issues you may have.  There's a wealth of information there and in the wiki. :D
[02:47] <Cinnamon> ok
[02:48] <tenach> And if you're really stuck, you can always as in #ubuntu or here.
[02:48] <Cinnamon> omg the download is so slow
[03:30] <goodtime_> man my ram is almost toped out
[03:31] <goodtime_>  i got rid of firefox because it was suckin like 55%
[03:31] <goodtime_>  but i open up like 4 apps and it is still freakin topin
[03:31] <goodtime_> is there hope
[03:32] <Appl6> goodtime_: How much RAM, what window manager are you using, what applications are you trying to use
[03:49] <Farllan> USB stick drive won't UNMOUNT/Eject/REMOVE
[03:49] <Farllan> How do I fix it?
[03:51] <holstein> could be bad Farllan
[03:51] <holstein> i had a few die on me
[03:51] <holstein> and thats kinda how they start to act
[03:51] <Farllan> Sticks are fine.
[03:51] <holstein> ok
[03:51] <Farllan> They work on my other machines
[03:51] <h00k> Farllan: what does it say when you try to eject/safely remove?
[03:51] <holstein> try command line
[03:52] <Farllan> ...something about FTAB or something like that
[03:52] <holstein> sudo umount /dev/whatever
[03:52] <Farllan> sudo?   This is 2010....I've got no time for that.
[03:53] <holstein> cool
[03:53] <holstein> well let me know how you get it to work for you
[04:13] <nits> this is strange!
[04:13] <nits> nobody chatting on the irc...
[05:07] <mohi2911> morning all
[05:08] <Chesamo> Morning mohi2911
[05:08] <mohi2911> howdy Chesamo !!
[05:08] <Chesamo> mohi2911: How goes?
[05:09] <mohi2911> how are you doing it meant =]
[05:09] <Chesamo> I'm doing well, yourself?
[05:09] <mohi2911> just now woke up after two hours of sleep :)
[05:10] <Chesamo> Ah, nap well?
[05:11] <mohi2911> naw. little bit tired as only I slept for a less time and you pinged starcraftman ??
[05:12] <Chesamo> I did not ping starcraftman!!
[05:12] <mohi2911> i think everyone remembers not to ping starcraftman :)
[05:13] <Chesamo> Oh certainly. Pinging starcraftman is so rude.
[05:13] <mohi2911> Chesamo, ohyeah starcraftman is always busy
[05:14] <mohi2911> like see now too. starcraftman is not responding to our pings :D
[05:14] <Chesamo> Well played, mohi2911. Well played.
[05:15] <mohi2911> xD
[05:16]  * Chesamo hi5s mohi2911
[05:16] <mohi2911> Wow
[05:17]  * mohi2911 waves over Chesamo 
[05:18]  * Chesamo wanders over to mohi2911
[05:18] <mohi2911> eh
[05:19] <Chesamo> What's all this then
[05:19] <mohi2911> tenach, 'grats for getting cloaked :D
[05:19] <tenach> mohi2911, thanks!  I've had it for about two months now
[05:20] <mohi2911> i mean see PM
[05:20] <mohi2911> tenach, i meant that :D
[05:20] <tenach> Ah, that's automatic, it does it all the time. xD
[05:20] <mohi2911> =]
[05:21] <tenach> I haven't figured out how to get xchat to delay the joining so that the cloaking happens first.
[05:22] <mohi2911> tenach, you edited the nickserv pw right!!!
[05:22] <tenach> ?
[05:23] <Chesamo> tenach: I think if you disable automatic room-joining, and put the /join command into the "command on join" space, cloaking will go first.
[05:23] <tenach> Ah, okay, thanks Chesamo
[05:23] <Chesamo>  Er, "command on connect"
[05:23] <tenach> :)
[05:23] <Chesamo> I think. Not sure.
[05:23] <mohi2911> while you get the login screen with networks, give the nickserv password there. it will authenticate first
[05:24] <mohi2911> Chesamo, but when you give nickserv pw there, it will identify you first right!!
[05:25] <Chesamo> It will ident, but I don't think it does the usermodes right away.
[05:25] <mohi2911> Chesamo, i am quitting and rejoining. and see =]
[05:26] <mohi2911> Chesamo, PM
[05:26] <Chesamo> I guess I don't know what "cloaking" means
[05:27] <tenach> Chesamo, cloaking is the ~user@unaffiliated/user
[05:27] <Chesamo> Oh, hostmasking
[05:27] <tenach> Yeah.
[05:27] <Chesamo> I can't see those anyway on this client (Colloquy for the iPod Touch)
[05:28] <mohi2911> brb breakfast
[05:28] <Chesamo> Someone needs to port XChat to the iPod :-(
[08:30] <insanity99> hey guys whats this problem i'm having with the update http://pastebin.com/AsnuEzbg
[08:33] <insanity99> ?
[08:34] <kermiac> insanity99: seems like you cant connect to security.ubuntu.com
[08:35] <insanity99> strange, is the server down>
[08:35] <kermiac> insanity99: are you using a local mirror that might be down atm?
[08:35] <insanity99> ?*
[08:35] <insanity99> dont know TBH
[08:36] <kermiac> insanity99: hang on one sec, I'm checking to see if it's down
[08:37] <insanity99> ok
[08:37] <kermiac> insanity99: ok, main server doesn't appear to be down
[08:37] <kermiac> insanity99: can you please check System --> Administration --> Software Sources
[08:38] <insanity99> ok there now
[08:38] <kermiac> in the middle of that screen/ box it will say "Download From"
[08:38] <kermiac> insanity99: does it say "Main Server" next to that?
[08:39] <insanity99> says server from the UK
[08:40] <kermiac> insanity99: ah, so maybe the UK server is down. Can you please change it to "Main Server" & then close the Software Sources screen
[08:40] <kermiac> insanity99: it will ask to reload your sources, do that & then try to install the updates again
[08:41] <insanity99> thanks that seems to have worked
[08:41] <kermiac> insanity99: awesome :)
[08:42] <insanity99> another thing i just realised, i dont have the top of my windows
[08:42] <insanity99> like where close and minimize is
[08:42] <kermiac> insanity99: don't forget to change it back after the updates have finished installing if you want to get faster updates again in the future
[08:43] <insanity99> yeah thanks
[08:43] <kermiac> insanity99: are you running one of the proprietary nvidia or ati drivers? It seems like you might be... I had that issue with a customer at work today due to the recent kernel update
[08:44] <insanity99> yeah im on ATI drivers, sadly because i cant watch videos either, screen tearing is to bad
[08:45] <kermiac> insanity99: ok, after your updates just try logging out & logging back in. If that doesn't resolve it you will need to reload the window manager (metacity or compiz)
[08:46] <insanity99> oh i ca do that easy i think cause i have fusion icon
[08:46] <kermiac> insanity99: awesome!
[08:46] <kermiac> insanity99: that's even better
[08:46] <insanity99> ah that did it :D
[08:47] <insanity99> is screen tearing an issue with all linux distros or just ubuntu?
[08:47] <kermiac> insanity99: but I didn't want to assume that was installed or get you to install that. That's actually what I installed for the customer at work today to easily work-around the issue
[08:47] <kermiac> insanity99: I think it's an ati thing :(
[08:48] <insanity99> yeah
[08:48] <insanity99> shame they clearly dont care about linux users
[08:48] <insanity99> the screen tearing while watching videos is awful
[08:49] <kermiac> insanity99: one thing I noticed that helped with ati was upgrading xorg - http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/qbxEHiPJ
[08:50] <kermiac> insanity99: and installing an updated compiz - http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/nxLjhLKU
[08:50] <insanity99> oh so thats why i dont get transparency with compiz, must be out of date
[08:51] <kermiac> insanity99: are you running lucid or karmic?
[08:51] <insanity99> lucid
[08:52] <kermiac> insanity99: well compiz shouldn't really be out of date.... just a newer stable version was released after lucid freeze
[08:52] <insanity99> yeah well its updating now anyway :)
[08:52] <insanity99> i will try Xorg next
[08:53] <kermiac> insanity99: one warning if you do upgrade xorg using the ppa I mentioned above, If/when you get black screen you will need to re-install the proprietary driver again
[08:54] <kermiac> insanity99: it would probably be easier to use "Hardware Drivers" to disable the proprietary driver first before upgrading xorg
[08:54] <insanity99> will i need to do that through CLI by pressing ctrl alt and F1?
[08:54] <insanity99> oh ok
[08:54] <kermiac> insanity99: yup, you can do it that way if you are comfortable with the CLI
[08:54] <kermiac> insanity99: are you using the ati catalyst driver from the ati website?
[08:55] <insanity99> new to ubuntu really, i know DOS very well but i think bash is easier to use and more powerful
[08:56] <insanity99> i just let 'hardware drivers' download the drivers
[08:56] <kermiac> insanity99: I totally agree... DOS was easy only due to growing up with it. bash is certainly easier to use & a whole lot more powerful :)
[08:56] <insanity99> yeah
[08:56] <kermiac> insanity99: ok, well it would probably be easier for you to temporarily disable the driver using "hardware drivers" before upgrading xorg
[08:57] <kermiac> insanity99: then re-enable the driver after xorg has been updated, otherwise you will (most likely) get a black screen
[08:57] <insanity99> does the hardware srivers section install the latest ATI drivers?
[08:57] <kermiac> insanity99: have you heard of "ppa-purge"?
[08:57] <insanity99> no
[08:58] <kermiac> insanity99: no, it was the latest driver at time of lucid release. ATI has released 9.5 catalyst driver now
[08:58] <insanity99> i did download the driver of the site but cant figure out how to install it
[08:58] <kermiac> insanity99: ok, one sec & I will show you the link for ppa-purge. it can undo all changes done by adding a ppa (revert all packages to previous versions)
[08:59] <insanity99> ok thanks
[09:00] <kermiac> insanity99: here is a link on how to install the binary ati driver - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI   NOTE: you won't need the "qt4 libraries" in lucid
[09:00] <kermiac> insanity99: here's info on ppa-purge
[09:00] <kermiac> http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html
[09:01] <kermiac> insanity99: I've gotta go finish cooking dinner for my kids... hopefully someone else will be around that can help you more while I'm away :)
[09:01] <insanity99> ok thanks again
[09:01] <kermiac> insanity99: I'll bbl if you're still around & have any more questions
[09:01] <kermiac> insanity99: no problem, that's why we're here :)
[09:02] <insanity99> ok thanks :D
[09:21] <ZachK_> anybody around?
[09:21] <insanity99> yeah me
[09:21] <ZachK_> hello insanity99
[09:21] <insanity99> hey
[09:21] <ZachK_> insanity99: what brings you here this morning? Morning for me anyway
[09:21] <Akos> hi ZachK_ (:
[09:21] <ZachK_> ah Akos what's up my buddy?
[09:21] <Akos> ZachK_: you moved to Europe? ((:
[09:21] <ZachK_> Akos: no why?
[09:22] <insanity99> yeah 9:20 AM here. woke up to sound of my computer desk falling apart
[09:22] <ZachK_> insanity99: dang..that bites
[09:23] <kermiac> insanity99: ouch! that's not a good way to wake up!
[09:23] <insanity99> yeah i need a new one, had this desk since before 1999
[09:23] <insanity99> lol
[09:24] <ZachK_> dang
[09:24] <Akos> ZachK_: because you say it's morning for you, 10:15 am here. so it's morning in europe (:
[09:25] <ZachK_> Akos: it's 3:30 am
[09:26] <Akos> :O
[09:26] <insanity99> thats weird i have strange animation while minimizing even though im on metacity?
[09:26] <Akos> that's night time!
[09:27] <ZachK_> Akos: not for me...if it's past midnight then i say it's the next day
[09:27] <ZachK_> early morning at best
[09:28] <Akos> ((:
[09:28] <insanity99> kermiac i think i installed new Xorg
[09:29] <kermiac> insanity99: very good... did you get a black screen after rebooting?
[09:29] <ZachK_> Vantrax: you pinged me earlier?
[09:29] <insanity99> no but it was in low graphics mode
[09:29] <insanity99> reinstaled at hardware drivers
[09:30] <insanity99> now i just need to install the new drivers which i downloaded
[09:31] <kermiac> insanity99: awesome :)
[09:32] <Vantrax> ZachK_: yeah, your applying for membership:P
[09:32] <kermiac> insanity99: you downloaded the 9.5 driver?
[09:32] <Vantrax> just wanted to make sure your set
[09:33] <insanity99> 10.5 it is
[09:33] <ZachK_> Vantrax: why wanna give me a testimonial? I'm still taking them
[09:33] <ZachK_> Vantrax: buddy....
[09:33] <kermiac> insanity99: haha, yeah.. that's the latest - my mistake :)
[09:33] <insanity99> :)
[09:34] <kermiac> insanity99: so basically you need to enter TTY (CTRL+ALT+F1)
[09:34] <kermiac> insanity99: then sudo service gdm stop
[09:35] <kermiac> insanity99: cd to Downloads (or wherever you saved the file) & run "sudo sh ./ati-driver-installer-10.5.blah.sh"
[09:35] <insanity99> whats that do?
[09:35] <ZachK_> Vantrax: ?
[09:35] <insanity99> tried this eil@neil-desktop:~/Downloads$ sudo sh ./ati-driver-installer-9-12-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/Lucid
[09:35] <kermiac> insanity99: then sudo service gdm stop   --- stops "X" - basically stops the GUI stuff running in the background
[09:35] <insanity99> sh: Can't open ./ati-driver-installer-9-12-x86.x86_64.run
[09:36] <insanity99> oh ok
[09:36] <kermiac> insanity99: ahh, you may need to make the file executable
[09:36] <Vantrax> ZachK_: im on the rmb
[09:37] <kermiac> insanity99: chmod +x ati-driver-installer-9-12-x86.x86_64.run
[09:37] <insanity99> so just check allow execute as program?
[09:37] <kermiac> insanity99: yup, that's does the same thing :)
[09:37] <insanity99> cool
[09:38] <kermiac> insanity99: then the last step before rebooting is "sudo aticonfig --initial"
[09:38] <insanity99> ok i will stop X now, brb...if all goes well :D
[09:39] <kermiac> g/l insanity99 :)
[09:39] <insanity99> thanks :)
[09:39] <Vantrax> ZachK_: ill be giving my testimonial in person
[09:43] <ZachK_> Vantrax: do you know when the meeting is at?
[09:43] <Vantrax> 1:17 from now
[09:43] <Vantrax> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=06&day=08&year=2010&hour=10&min=0&sec=0&p1=0
[09:44] <Vantrax> thats why the time is a link to the world clock
[09:44] <ZachK_> Vantrax: and you're on the board
[09:44] <Vantrax> yes
[09:44] <ZachK_> finally someone i know is on the board
[09:44] <Vantrax> he he he
[09:44] <ZachK_> :D
[09:44] <ZachK_> Vantrax: where do you live at dude?
[09:44] <Vantrax> well, you know half of the Americas board too
[09:44] <Vantrax> Australia
[09:45] <ZachK_> Australia? Cool
[09:45] <ZachK_> nice and toasty
[09:45] <ZachK_> stick a piece of bread on the porch..no toaster needed
[09:45] <Vantrax> well, atm its only 10 degrees
[09:45] <ZachK_> ouch
[09:45] <Vantrax> but in summer it hits 40
[09:46] <ZachK_> Vantrax: that farenheit or celsius
[09:46] <ZachK_> Vantrax: and you on Facebook?
[09:46] <Vantrax> yes, and celsius
[09:46] <ZachK_> what's you're profile..i'll friend you
[09:46] <Vantrax> in farenheit it would be way to cold
[09:47]  * ZachK_ doesn't remember the celsius/farenheit conversion
[09:47] <Vantrax> http://www.facebook.com/#!/lyematt
[09:47] <ZachK_> cool
[09:48] <ZachK_> haven't seen you 'round in a while
[09:48] <ZachK_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZachK_ if you wanna look
[09:49] <Vantrax> ive been around, but not chatting much
[09:49] <Vantrax> ive looked
[09:49] <kermiac> Vantrax: another fellow Aussie!! :)  I don't remember seeing you in #ubuntu-au before
[09:49] <Vantrax> i was talking in there today
[09:49] <Vantrax> tho not in there atm i just noticed
[09:49] <ZachK_> kermiac: now he speaks...won't talk to me....vantrax shows up though.....
[09:49] <ZachK_> lol
[09:50] <kermiac> ah, I must've missed you when I was at work :)
[09:50] <Vantrax> im also on the core team for LCA2011
[09:51] <kermiac> I've never been to LCA. I wanted to go this year but couldn't justify travelling to NZ
[09:53] <insanity99> ah, that didn't go as planned
[09:53] <kermiac> insanity99: ok, what happened?
[09:54] <insanity99> http://pastebin.com/cTDEFX5R
[09:54]  * kermiac looks
[09:56] <kermiac> insanity99: ah... those instructions are more outdated than i thought :(
[09:56] <kermiac> insanity99: no need for "--buildpkg Ubuntu/Lucid" at the end
[09:56] <insanity99> oh ok
[09:57] <kermiac> insanity99: sorry about that... I didn't see that was there when I was skimming through the link I sent you
[09:57] <insanity99> its ok lol, seems to work now
[09:57] <insanity99> do i still need to do sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[09:58] <kermiac> insanity99: no, you don't need to if you just install using the .sh - that's only needed if you use the "create deb" option
[09:59] <kermiac> the dpkg -i *deb basically just means to install any deb in that directory
[09:59] <kermiac> oops, that should be *.deb ^^
[09:59] <insanity99> ah ok, it installed but sudo aticonfig --initial brings up this error neil@neil-desktop:~/Downloads$ sudo aticonfig --initial
[09:59] <insanity99> Found fglrx primary device section
[10:00] <insanity99>  Unable to find any supported Screen sections
[10:01] <kermiac> insanity99: does "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" exist?
[10:02] <insanity99> no apparently not
[10:03] <insanity99> oh it is there if i go to it on file browser
[10:03] <kermiac> hmm...
[10:03] <kermiac> if it does, you will need to rename it using "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.OLD"
[10:04] <insanity99> ok done that
[10:05] <kermiac> insanity99: you also need to stop gdm before running aticonfig
[10:05] <insanity99> ok brb
[10:05] <kermiac> ok, g/l - I've gotta get kids ready for bed bbs
[10:06] <insanity99> ok thanks again :D
[10:06] <insanity99> cya
[10:06] <kermiac> no probs insanity99 :)
[10:33] <insanity99> hey anyone know why i can full screen youtube videos? the video just goes all grey and i have to refresh
[10:36] <CSiD> thats me just done a minimal install :D:D:D:D:D all thanks to embers of this channel
[10:38] <CSiD> but I have 2 bugs to beat with it, apart from that it is PERFECTLY stable, and 3.3GiB full install :D
[10:40] <CSiD> anyone know how I can get the network manager thing on the icon (for wireless sort of thing)?
[10:43] <CSiD> the other bug is that my ipod touch firmware 3.1.3 doesnt show in rhythmbox
[10:45] <CSiD> I installed rhythmbox rhythmbox-plugins
[10:46] <CSiD> I was told it would include the libgpod which is installed
[10:46] <CSiD> is there any other requirements?
[10:47] <CSiD> anyone here?
[10:50] <CSiD> what does the -y do in sudo apt-get install -y <package>
[10:50] <Akos> it applied yes to all the questions that would have come up
[10:51] <CSiD> perfect :D
[10:51] <CSiD> how do I make the icon area have the networking thing?
[10:51] <Akos> i have no clue :P
[10:53] <ZachK_> CSiD: Networking?
[10:54] <CSiD> yeah
[10:54] <CSiD> I need the networking applet on the top right bar in gnome
[10:54] <CSiD> I think everythins alread installed
[10:54] <CSiD> (worked from minimal install)
[10:54] <ZachK_> CSiD: one sec
[10:54] <CSiD> thanks
[10:55] <ZachK_> hmm
[10:56] <ZachK_> i can't seem to find anything at the moment
[10:56] <ZachK_> also i have a meeting that i must attend..when i'm done i'll continue the search
[10:56] <ZachK_> while you're waiting i'd google google google
[10:56] <CSiD> I will, thanks m8
[10:57] <ZachK_> CSiD: also you can try looking for help in #ubuntu
[11:24]  * Vantrax prods paultag to vote to make quorum or abstain
[11:25] <paultag> Vantrax, >:(
[11:25] <paultag> Vantrax, I have like 3 minutes :/
[12:22] <CSiD> anyone know how ipod touch 3rd gens can be made visible in rhythmbox from a minimal install?
[12:23] <ZachK_> CSiD: ah you have to install a few different packages and you have to do some other stuff i believe
[12:24] <CSiD> I put in:
[12:24] <CSiD> rhythmbox rhythmbox-plugins
[12:24] <CSiD> the plugins took care of libgpod
[12:24] <CSiD> I can browse the ipod in Nautilus
[12:24] <CSiD> just cant see it in rhythmbox
[12:24] <CSiD> and I checked its rhythmbox 0.12.8
[12:25] <CSiD> the ipod touch is running firmware 3.1.3
[12:27] <ZachK_> that might be the case...
[12:28] <ZachK_> is your ipod unlocked? meaning the home screen...is it able to be used/touched to run apps
[12:28] <ZachK_> i had to slide to unlock mine before it worked
[12:28] <CSiD> 1 sec
[12:29] <CSiD> unlocked, unjailbroken... nada
[12:30] <ZachK_> No I mean when you have your iPod on...say you turn the screen off...to turn it back on you have to do the slide thing and put in the passkey if you chose to use one...i had to turn my screen on before it'd recognize
[12:31] <CSiD> I dont use one, and I tried playing music on it at the same time and typign notes at the same time as wekll ut nothing
[12:31] <ZachK_> hmmm
[12:31] <ZachK_> weird..might be the 3.1.3 firmware
[12:31] <CSiD> worked before
[12:32] <CSiD> but now I did a minimal install everything is a dream except this
[12:35] <CSiD> what are the requirements? I can check them one by one?
[12:40] <CSiD> the other issue is on the icon bar at the top right there is no app for network selection, yet it is install, please help
[12:43] <ZachK_> CSiD: ok...hmm
[12:43] <ZachK_> network selection? wonder why that wouldn't be there...odd
[12:44] <CSiD> probably because of Linux fro mscratch I instaled gnome in parts and gdm e.t.c... was lighter
[12:44] <ZachK_> that might do it
[12:44] <CSiD> ?
[12:44] <ZachK_> let me see what i can find
[12:45] <ZachK_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[12:45] <ZachK_> CSiD: take a look at that...might help..
[12:45] <ZachK_> bksalt: welcome!
[12:46] <bksalt> thank you
[12:46] <bksalt> just courious
[12:46] <ZachK_> bksalt: courious about?
[12:47] <bksalt> this site, Im not really new
[12:47] <CSiD> btw, cud u do me a quick favour while I'm reading up o nthat and tell me if there is anything I have forgotten to change: http://forum.xtremehacking.com/showthread.php?tid=255&pid=1338#pid1338 ?
[12:47] <ZachK_> bksalt: ah ok..new to linux?
[12:48] <ZachK_> CSiD: what's the thread about
[12:49] <CSiD> the bototm of it is my ideas on how to improve hte forum, just want opinions because I am VERY impressed with al lof you :D
[12:49] <bksalt> no Been useing Linux for about 4yrs
[12:49] <ZachK_> CSiD: well that's the Beginners Team for ya
[12:49] <ZachK_> bksalt: oh cool!
[12:49] <ZachK_> bksalt: what distro?
[12:50] <bksalt> first mandrake than Ubuntu
[12:51] <ZachK_> awesome
[12:51] <bksalt> but still need help once in a while, this will be nice to have in case of questions
[12:52] <ZachK_> contribute at all?'
[12:52] <bksalt> when I can
[12:52] <ZachK_> what areas?
[12:53] <bksalt> just basic info our twin boys are more tecnical
[12:53] <ZachK_> ah cool
[12:53]  * ZachK_ is a BT Mentor/Wiki Lead and Ubuntu member
[12:53] <bksalt> got to go nice chating
[12:54] <bksalt> will pass you on to others
[12:54] <bksalt> bye for now
[12:55] <ZachK_> ok...
[13:25] <ZachK_> hellol shredder12
[13:25] <ZachK_> and hello to you too malev
[13:34] <insanity99> hey guys
[13:35] <ZachK_> welcome insanity99
[13:37] <insanity99> i got a number of of issues currently lol. some reason since i updated my ATI drivers (dont know if this is related or not) i cant full screen youtube videos
[13:37] <insanity99> the play just turns into a grey box
[13:37] <insanity99> player*
[13:40] <insanity99> can anyone help me with this?
[13:42] <ZachK_> insanity99: gimme a few as i'm working on a few wiki pages...
[13:42] <ZachK_> while waiting either go to #ubuntu or google google google
[13:42] <insanity99> ok
[13:43] <insanity99> yeah i have looked on google. how do i join multiple channels using empathy IM client?
[13:45] <ZachK_> insanity99: pidgin is better
[13:45] <insanity99> oh is it
[13:45] <ZachK_> yes it's what i use on windows
[13:45] <ZachK_> i use xchat on linux
[13:46] <insanity99> is xchat better than pidgin?
[13:48] <ZachK_> depends upon what you like
[13:48] <ZachK_> i can give you two links on how to set them up
[13:48] <insanity99> ok cool thanks
[13:50] <ZachK_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pidgin
[13:50] <ZachK_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChatHowto
[13:51] <insanity99> thanks
[13:51] <ZachK_> :D
[14:00] <sogeking99> hey this is insanity lol had to change my name
[14:01] <ZachK_> sogeking99: lol
[14:02] <sogeking99> do you, by any chance use python or any other programming language?
[14:02] <ZachK_> I don't at this time...want to though
[14:02] <ZachK_> need help with python?
[14:02] <sogeking99> kinda yeah
[14:03] <ZachK_> sogeking99: type /join #ubuntu-beginners-dev
[14:03] <sogeking99> ah thanks
[14:04] <sogeking99> i love doing python but the math in this book i am reading is insane for me. i suck at math. but i love programming. dont know if i can though sadly
[14:04] <ZachK_> hey Chesamo
[14:05] <Chesamo> Hello ZachK_
[14:09] <sogeking99> can anyone tell me how to register my nick?
[14:09] <Chesamo> sogeking99: ./msg nickserv register <password> <email address>
[14:09] <Chesamo> ./msg nickserv help
[14:09] <ZachK_> Chesamo: beat me to it
[14:09] <sogeking99> ./msg nickserv help
[14:09] <Chesamo> sogeking99 without the periods
[14:09] <sogeking99> ah thanks
[14:10] <ZachK_> cool
[14:10] <Chesamo> ZachK_: I get questions like that on another server I'm on that caters well to IRC noobs
[14:11] <ZachK_> Chesamo: what is it?
[14:11] <Chesamo> ZachK_ I'd rather not say in public ;-)
[14:13] <sogeking99> zack did you ever figure out my youtube issue?
[14:14] <ZachK_> sogeking99: Sorry dude i've been quite busy with editing a team's page(s) haven't had time...you can ask Chesamo though
[14:14] <Chesamo> sogeking99: What's up?
[14:15] <sogeking99> ah ok np
[14:16] <sogeking99> i cant watch youtube videos in full screen suddenly, when i press the button it just turns the player into a grey box
[14:16] <sogeking99> i recently updated my ATI drivers, dont know if that is the cause or not
[14:17] <Chesamo> sogeking99: When you hit the "fullscreen" button, the normal-sized player turns gray and the video doesn't appear fullscreen?
[14:17] <sogeking99> yeah
[14:19] <Chesamo> sogeking99: What version of Ubuntu, and what version of Flash player?
[14:20] <Chesamo> sogeking99: Also which browser are you using
[14:20] <Silver_Fox_> Does it play correctly when not in full screen mode ?
[14:20] <sogeking99> i have 10.4, not sure about flash and i use chrome, but it also happens in firefox
[14:21] <sogeking99> yeah plays fine in normal view
[14:22] <Chesamo> sogeking99: Find your version of Flash in about:plugins (in Firefox)
[14:23] <sogeking99> 'shockwave flash 10.0 r45' is that it? i thought flash was adobe
[14:26] <Chesamo> sogeking99: Adobe bought it from Macromedia, and "Shockwave" was Macromedia's line of Web-based interactivity environments.
[14:26] <Chesamo> sogeking99: Not to be confused with Macromedia/Adobe Shockwave Player, a very similar (but little-used) system by the same company.
[14:27] <sogeking99> ah right, i used flash action script when it was still macromedia lool
[14:28] <sogeking99> lol*
[14:28] <Chesamo> sogeking99: Have you run updates recently?
[14:29] <sogeking99> yeah just a couple of hours ago
[14:31] <Chesamo> sogeking99 Yeah I have that version too. Let me do some testing real quick...
[14:32] <sogeking99> ok
[14:32] <Chesamo> sogeking99: Hm... working fine for me under Opera. What version of the ATi drivers are you using?
[14:33] <sogeking99> 10-5
[14:39] <Chesamo> sogeking99: Paste the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA please?
[14:40] <sogeking99> ok
[14:40] <sogeking99> neil@neil-desktop:~$ lspci -nn | grep VGA
[14:40] <sogeking99> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc RV770 [Radeon HD 4870] [1002:9440]
[14:40] <duanedesign> hello Chesamo
[14:40] <Chesamo> hello duanedesign
[14:41] <Chesamo> sogeking99: Pastebin ( http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/ ) the output of fglrxinfo please?
[14:43] <sogeking99> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/446651/
[14:46] <Chesamo> sogeking99: Is this a system you performed a distribution upgrade on?
[14:47] <sogeking99> you mean hardware? no i built this PC a few years ago now
[14:47] <sogeking99> i upgraded from 9.10 to 10.4 recently though
[14:48] <sogeking99> but youtube was working afterwards
[14:50] <Chesamo> sogeking99 Yeah that's what I wanted to know. Try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6358750&postcount=6
[14:50] <Chesamo> sogeking99 Then, after a reboot, run sudo aptutide install xorg-driver-fglrx
[14:52] <sogeking99> ok i will try now thanks for all the help man
[14:53] <Chesamo> sogeking99: No problem; it's what we're here for
[14:54] <sogeking99> :) i will restart now and do the command. should i just install the driver 'hardware drivers' installs rather than 10-5 which i downloaded from the AMD site?
[14:55] <Chesamo> sogeking99: I don't personally like jockey-gtk (the "Hardware Drivers" applet). Run sudo aptutide install xorg-driver-fglrx after a reboot instead.
[14:55] <sogeking99> oh that will install the driver then yeah?
[14:58] <Chesamo> Ye...
[14:58] <Chesamo> :(
[14:59] <duanedesign> Chesamo: i gave you a testimonial on your wiki :) Kepp up the good work
[15:00] <Chesamo> duanedesign: Thanks! :D
[15:00] <insanity99> im back
[15:00] <Chesamo> duanedesign: It's unsigned though. Don't know if that matters.
[15:00] <insanity99> i get this error neil@neil-desktop:~$ sudo aptutide install xorg-driver-fglrx
[15:00] <insanity99> sudo: aptutide: command not found
[15:01] <Chesamo> insanity99: WHOOPS! aptitude*
[15:01] <duanedesign> Chesamo: lol, good catch
[15:01] <insanity99> should it be apt?
[15:02] <insanity99> ah ok
[15:02] <Chesamo> I'm trying to build a KDE version of my minimal script; does anyone know what the KDE equivalent of gnome-core is in Lucid? http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/gnome-core
[15:04] <insanity99> ok i ran the command shouldi reboot again?
[15:06] <Chesamo> insanity99: I would, yeah
[15:08] <sogeking99> my theme seems to be all grey now rather than the black and purple
[15:09] <Chesamo> sogeking99: Are you able to reapply your customizations? The new driver may have reverted them. An odd thing to happen, but possible.
[15:10] <sogeking99> seems to be ok now, however youtube videos still wont full screen XD
[15:11] <Chesamo> sogeking99: Hm... I was hoping driver misconfiguration would be the problem. Let me think...
[15:12] <Chesamo> sogeking99: How did you install Flash player?
[15:13] <sogeking99> i just followed this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766683
[15:13] <sogeking99> and entered this sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/`lsb_release -cs`.list --output-document=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list; sudo apt-get -q update; sudo apt-get --yes -q --allow-unauthenticated install medibuntu-keyring; sudo apt-get -q update
[15:14] <sogeking99> according to jocky thing no drivers are active
[15:15] <Chesamo> sogeking99: You used the Mediabuntu repos, then... hm. You can try the new (beta) version of Flash player. http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
[15:16] <Chesamo> sogeking99: You're going to have to uninstall Flash player before doing that though, and I don't know what the package is named in Medibuntu. Synaptic would be good here.
[15:17] <sogeking99> so uninstall 'flashplugin-nonfree?
[15:21] <Chesamo> sogeking99: Yes
[15:22] <sogeking99> hmmm the installer from the link wont work
[15:23] <sogeking99> libflashplayer.so
[15:23] <Chesamo> sogeking99: I believe it's just the plugin, not an installer. Drop it into /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins and /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin
[15:23] <Chesamo> sogeking99: The untar'd version, I mean
[15:26] <sogeking99> put it in  /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins but there is no /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin
[15:27] <Eddie_Lee> Hello, I was wondering if there is a problem with the medibuntu repositories in todays 10.04 update. I got a notification for "new updates available" when I started my pc and when I did a CHECK for new updates I got a list of "failed to fetch" packages, originally I was getting updates from the server in my country (Mexico) but to see if this was something specific to that server I switched to the US (in general) and I still got the same issu
[15:28] <leoquant> libflashplayer .so [15:29] <sogeking99> sorry i gotta go guys
[15:29] <leoquant> and be aware of security updates
[15:29] <Chesamo> sogeking99: That's fine. Also leoquant is right, drop it there as well. (/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins is the global storage location, ~/.mozilla/plugins is the local [user] location)
[15:29] <Chesamo> Eddie_Lee: That's happened to me before... It could be that the repos are just not fully updated yet
[15:29] <leoquant> flash is almost malware
[15:29] <sogeking99> cya guys
[15:30] <sogeking99> thanks again]
[15:30] <Eddie_Lee> I see, so, should I just run the update with the available repos or should I wait until I get everything alright?
[15:31] <Chesamo> Eddie_Lee: Try later.
[15:31] <Eddie_Lee> Excellent, thank you very much :).
[16:44] <Silver_Fox_> Hello DiegoTc
[16:44] <Silver_Fox_> How is Honduras ??
[16:44] <DiegoTc> hi Silver_Fox_
[16:45] <DiegoTc> Silver_Fox_:  well here in my city is hot :S
[16:45] <DiegoTc> Silver_Fox_: still in california?
[16:45] <Silver_Fox_> I got back to California on sunday night.
[16:45] <Silver_Fox_> I went south of the border into Mexico :)
[16:46] <DiegoTc> ohh
[16:46] <DiegoTc> did you ate tacos?
[16:46] <Silver_Fox_> Many
[16:46] <Silver_Fox_> :)
[16:46] <DiegoTc> hahah great
[16:47] <Silver_Fox_> And lots of tequila
[16:47] <Silver_Fox_> Shhhh
[16:47] <Silver_Fox_> ;)
[16:47] <DiegoTc> hahahaha
[18:21] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> it their a way to install 64bit operating systems in vbox
[19:03] <sogeking99> can anyone help me with this problem please? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1504642
[19:37] <sogeking99> is anyone around?
[19:37] <Chesamo> sogeking99: Yup
[19:38] <sogeking99> hey man, things are messed up for me here
[19:39] <sogeking99> cant activate drivers at all and my youtube problem is still there
[19:39] <sogeking99> should i make a clean install do you think?
[19:47] <sogeking99> also for some reason i seem to have lost the default theme
[19:48] <CSiD> I got the minima linstall :D:D:D:D:D
[19:49] <sogeking99> hey CSiD
[19:49] <Chesamo> sogeking99: That's odd... If you want to do a clean install I guess that's fine. I'd rather not need to take such a drastic step though.
[19:49] <Chesamo> SCiD: Which one?
[19:49] <CSiD> 64-bit
[19:49] <CSiD> I used you script and added some stuff to it
[19:49] <sogeking99> i dont know what to do, any ideas?
[19:50] <CSiD> whats wrong sogeking99?
[19:50] <sogeking99> all sorts, i cant activate my drivers, my default theme seems to be gone, replaced by all grey and youtube wont full screen lol
[19:51] <CSiD> if its somethign missing from the install, try installign on same partition without formatting.. thats what I did once with an ATI-radeon
[19:52] <CSiD> btw, chesamo = I have 2 problems with the system
[19:52] <Chesamo> Yes, CSiD?
[19:53] <CSiD> you know the applet with the networkign for WiFi?
[19:53] <sogeking99> it will be a pain because i dont have the live USB i used to install anymore
[19:53] <Chesamo> network-manager-gnome, yes
[19:53] <sogeking99> also i tried repair in recovery mode
[19:53] <CSiD> not visible...
[19:53] <CSiD> and I checked, wlan0 is there
[19:54] <CSiD> but ethernet auto runs right away
[19:54] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> how do I use my computer to check a windows computer to see if it has been cracked and a backdoor installed
[19:54] <CSiD> look at netbios using backtrack
[19:54] <Chesamo> Who put that button there.
[19:55] <Chesamo> CSiD Have you made sure network-manager-gnome is installed? Might be a bug in the script
[19:55] <CSiD> checked
[19:55] <CSiD> driver there, software there... its probably a 64-bit config bug , the script was a dream
[19:56] <CSiD> I gave the script to my uni system admin to use on their servers with a few modifications
[19:56] <Chesamo> CSiD Coolio :D
[19:58] <CSiD> but any ideas how to get my network applet visible? and also networks dont appear on network connections from system-preferences, but neither does the network I'm on
[20:01] <CSiD> any ideas?
[20:01] <CSiD> cos thats one of the two ONLY issues
[20:02] <Chesamo> I don't know, it works fine for me
[20:03] <CSiD> should I reinstall?
[20:04] <Chesamo> You mean reinstall network-manager-gnome? sure
[20:04] <CSiD> yeah, worth a shot
[20:05] <CSiD> the system runs FAST though.....
[20:05] <CSiD> the only delay is somethign called "jetty" starting
[20:06] <justin_> question : if i upgrade through the update installer to 10.04 LTS from 9.1 will it wipe my hard drive?
[20:06] <CSiD> nope justin
[20:06] <CSiD> it will replace al lsystem configurations in most cases due to beign stored in files
[20:07] <CSiD> but will leave anything in your home directory (including desktop) intact
[20:07] <justin_> awesome
[20:07] <justin_> thank you
[20:07] <CSiD> back up jsut in case though, always safer to be sure
[20:08] <CSiD> is there any ways I can contribute to this place more? its amazing here
[20:10] <CSiD> hey a guy i know owns a forum, he is meant to be travelling soon for education and wants me to look after the forum as admin.... if you want I could make a section to advertise this place and for us to put commonly asked questions with solutions?
[20:11] <CSiD> I also want him to try and push the open source movements a bit by encouraging people to show source codes of everythign they program
[20:11] <CSiD> does anyone liek that idea?
[20:13] <CSiD> forum.xtremehacking.com
[20:15] <CSiD> reinstallign didnt help
[20:15] <Chesamo> Whooooo... that could have been bad. Accidentally re-released UMD with a bug that wiped /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:16] <Chesamo> Good thing I caught it though
[20:16] <CSiD> good job indeed that you caught it :O
[20:16] <Chesamo> Fortunately that particular code isn't on the LaunchPad version of the script
[20:17] <CSiD> thank god, I probably would have run it :P
[20:17] <Chesamo> I'm working on the KDE version of the script
[20:18] <Chesamo> It yelled at me that "alsa-utils" wasn't a valid package... I thought "wait a second... KDE and GNOME both use ALSA..."
[20:18] <CSiD> virtual machine?
[20:18] <Chesamo> Yes, thank goodness
[20:19] <CSiD> brb gonna test something, please tell me what distro's you are trying this o nwhen I come back please, would be great to make one that ran on multiple OS's
[20:29] <CSiD> back...
[20:29] <CSiD> it went bad
[20:29] <CSiD> I trid using wifi-radar
[20:30] <CSiD> wudnt connect to my router, gonan try with my ipod to test
[20:32] <CSiD> now my ipod touch cant see it, wtf is going on :S
[20:32] <Chesamo> CSiD Urk D:
[20:32] <CSiD> ?
[20:33] <CSiD> my ipod connected to it now
[20:34] <CSiD> and the ipod disconnected from it again i nsecodns :S
[20:35] <CSiD> I hve tried so much times now I have memorised the wep key backwards!
[20:36] <CSiD> with wep do I set "security" to open or restricted?
[20:37] <CSiD> ?
[20:40] <CSiD> I am just trying to work out how to get this sytem on wireless so I can calbe up nmy netbook to install ubuntu (once i find its charger
[20:40] <Chesamo> I'm sorry, I really have to focus on something, I'll be back later
[20:43] <nhasian> CSiD, open network means there is no password.
[20:43] <nhasian> CSiD, why are you using WEP instead of the more secure WPA2?
[20:47] <paultag> Not to mention memorizing a key backwards is silly
 I hve tried so much times now I have memorised the wep key backwards!
[20:47] <paultag> Hey CSiD
[20:47] <paultag> Not to mention memorizing a key backwards is silly
[20:48] <CSiD> u think I could help it?
[20:48] <paultag> CSiD, that's what I just wrote about you >:)
[20:48] <CSiD> I know it both ways
[20:48] <CSiD> all I saw was : <paultag> Hey CSiD
 Not to mention memorizing a key backwards is silly
 u think I could help it?
 CSiD, that's what I just wrote about you >:)
 I know it both ways
[20:48] <paultag> yeah
[20:48] <paultag> I saw your part
[20:49] <CSiD> I'm just trying to set up my wireless, to make sure it works
[20:49] <CSiD> result= not going good
[20:50] <CSiD> for some reason my mind even has a jingle for the key :S
[20:53] <CSiD> god I cant work out a filesyste mfor my home directory
[20:55] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> anyone know anything about vbox
[20:56] <CSiD> I use it :D
[20:56] <CSiD> whats wrong?
[20:56] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> I cannot get the internet to work
[20:57] <lazybug> i try to delete a file on my desktop by using sudo rm; sudo rm -r; sudo rm -R and sudo rmdir  but the only answer i get is: "rm: cannot remove `/home/lazybug/Desktop/new_folder_to_be_deleted': No such file or directory
[20:58] <CSiD> lazybug filename, and does it have a space in it??
[20:59] <CSiD> ZeRoDeAtG50435 , dd you set up in the "system settings" of the specific machien to use "host's conenction as bridge"?
[20:59] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> no NAT
[20:59] <CSiD> NAT ?:S
[20:59] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> its the default
[21:00] <CSiD> try setting it to act as if the host machine is a network bridge
[21:00] <CSiD> no NAT = default give no network
[21:00] <CSiD> lazybug, does the file/folder have a space in the name?
[21:00] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> bridge network
[21:01] <CSiD> yes
[21:01] <lazybug> CSiD: here the command i used: "sudo rm /home/lazybug/desktop/new_folder_to_be_deleted"
[21:01] <CSiD> this will make your virtual machien share the connection, as if its an application such as skype on your host machine
[21:02] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> still no net
[21:02] <CSiD> did you try sudo rm -rf /home/lazybug/desktop/new_folder_to_be_deleted?      use this command with EXTREME care as if you say the wrong folder or even root... ure fucked
[21:03] <CSiD> and ZeRo , did you restart the machine after changing settings?, and have you tried runnign a second virtual machine to see if its specific to that machine or if it is a settings error?
[21:04] <CSiD> hiya goran
[21:04] <ZeRoDeAtH50435> no ill try that
[21:05] <CSiD> that work lazybug?
[21:07] <lazybug> CSiD: no i do not want to use rm -rf as it could delete everything then i would prefer to delete the file just with the mouse i wasn't sure if i miss a command as i try to use the command line more often
[21:08] <CSiD> right....
[21:08] <CSiD> well tbh u can run sudo nautilus
[21:08] <lazybug> CSiD: thanks
[21:08] <CSiD> only one thing: make sure no software is using it, thats the only other thing I could think of
[21:09] <CSiD> sorry I cudnt be of more help
[21:12] <CSiD> I feel like programming
[21:12] <CSiD> any suggestions?
[21:17] <CSiD> is the problem fixed lazybug?
[21:18] <lazybug> CSiD: yes i can delete the file with the mouse i'll not try rm -rf
[21:19] <CSiD> rm -rf ... -r means recursive, -f means force (but actually fakes everything worked)
[21:19] <CSiD> so say you had a folder with 60 or so folders in it, all inside eachother
[21:19] <CSiD> thats when you use rm -rf
[21:20] <Chesamo> CSiD I usually avoid -f, I just do rm -r
[21:20] <CSiD> but if you want I know a safety net of using it
[21:21] <CSiD> well I set up aliases to alert me first
[21:21] <CSiD> how do you pm on here?
[21:21] <lazybug> CSiD: i read the "BeginnersBashScripting" that it could delete everything but the folder it self is entirely empty i played just with commands to learn how the terminal works
[21:21] <Chesamo> CSiD /query <name>
[21:22] <CSiD> I read "mastering unix shell scripting?" and covered a lot of it at University with a man who has worked for Sun and is an honourary associate of 4 universities for his unix research
[21:23] <CSiD> that work Chesamo?
[21:24] <Chesamo> CSiD I didn't get a message, no. What client are you on?
[21:24] <CSiD> xChat
[21:24] <Chesamo> CSiD /query <name> then once the tab opens type your message
[21:24] <Chesamo> CSiD Alternately right-click on the name and select "Open Dialog Window
[21:24] <Chesamo> "
[21:25] <CSiD> getting the messages now?
[21:26] <Chesamo> Negative.
[22:03] <Phil__> hey i have a real easy uetion
[22:03] <Phil__> i have dual displays
[22:03] <Phil__> and one is a 15 " laptop videscreen diplay
[22:03] <Phil__> and the other is a 17 inch
[22:03] <CSiD> yeah?
[22:03] <Phil__> can i resize the 17" so it fits the screen
[22:04] <Phil__> its set on the same res as the laptop
[22:04] <Phil__> can i do it on windows too>
[22:58] <phillw> hi, what is the command to force vesa on boot with grub2?
[23:06] <kermiac_work> phillw: iirc it's "xforcevesa"
[23:59] <paultag> meeting for all UBT members in #ubuntu-meeting
[23:59] <phillw> okies, I want to use nomodeset by using the F6, just not familiar with doing it