=== nikolam_ is now known as nikolam === nobawk is now known as nobawk|away === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler === ajmitch_ is now known as ajmitch [03:55] i'm thinking about filing a 'needs packaging' issue for uwsgi (which I maintain in my ppa). I've never done this before, so what steps should I be taking now to get my package into both debian and ubuntu with the least pain? === nobawk|away is now known as nobawk === TheMuso` is now known as TheMuso === nobawk is now known as nobawk|away === nobawk|away is now known as nobawk [07:59] good morning === lifeless_ is now known as lifeless === cemc1 is now known as cemc === runasand_ is now known as runasand === funkyHat_ is now known as funkyHat === cody-somerville_ is now known as cody-somerville === cody-somerville_ is now known as cody-somerville [11:16] RoAkSoAx: I sent an e-mail to you. Please check. [11:50] dupondje: pong to me if you will be able to talk === nobawk is now known as nobawk|away [12:11] ari-tczew: I dont maintain libsmbios, I'm listed as an uploader because I sponsored it [12:12] ari-tczew: who-uploads libsmbios > 2.0.3.dfsg-1 to unstable: Loïc Minier (lool) [12:12] ari-tczew: I dont even have hardware to test it AFAIK [12:12] lool: so you can't pack a new upstream release? [12:13] ari-tczew: package in Debian or Ubuntu? I could if I get some testers [12:13] lool: Debian. I've packed new upstream of libsmbios, but it's in queue for Ubuntu [12:14] lool: hmm, so, would you like to sponsor my package, then forward to Debian? [12:15] ari-tczew: I could review the packaging changes and tell you whether these look ok, I'd need some testing of the final source package in each distro before uploading it [12:15] I dont care that you test binaries that I build, but I do care that we test binaries built in each environment === nobawk|away is now known as nobawk === traveller__ is now known as traveller === slicer_ is now known as slicer [15:44] hello [15:44] can I get some advice? [15:45] !ask | probably applies here [15:45] probably applies here: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [15:45] thx. I'm new to all this IRC stuff :-> [15:46] I'd like to contribute to Ubuntu. I have some experience with ubuntu, have been reading a lot about gnu/linux/distros, have a lot of general knowledge on computers and programming but little skill [15:47] I want to join a team. I think triagers/motu would be nice to start. what do you think? [15:49] karyo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/GettingStarted would be a good place to start reading if you're interested in packaging [15:50] should I be? I found that packaging had a bit steep learning curve especially for debian/dpkg. I was starting to think that maybe I might not be able to contribute anything meaningful. Is it really hard as I think it is? [15:51] karyo, if you want to triage bugs #ubuntu-bugs is the place to be https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad [15:52] ugh. bzr merge-package just completely failed at even attempting to merge mpd's init script. [15:52] thx porthose. what I really want to know is which is easier? I really think I should get more experience, but I'm not sure what should be my first step. [15:54] karyo, bugs would be a good place to start, it really depends on what interests you :) [15:56] well, I'm mainly interested in localization. I'm already involved in translating ubuntu/related projects to my native language, and found that there are a lot of issues non-english ubuntu versions face. I'm not sure how or if i can effectively handle such issues. [16:06] I filed a bug about mpd crashing, and a debdiff to fix it, but I've noticed there's a newer version in squeeze so I'm merging that [16:06] I guess I should mark my initial bug as invalid? [16:15] There is a problem ("GDM crashes after selecting the "Sugar" desktop")for which there is a well-known fix that I have tested myself, and have committed to the upstream Debian packaging repository. I'm waiting for an upload of the fix to unstable. Can I SRU the fix to Lucid before it's uploaded to Unstable without creating an Ubuntu delta in Maverick? [16:15] (I have the upload privlages) [16:17] jdong, slangasek, ^^ [16:33] I've just done my first merge using bzr. woop. https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mpd/+bug/591307 [16:33] Ubuntu bug 591307 in mpd (Ubuntu) "request to merge mpd 0.15.9-2 from debian testing" [Undecided,New] [16:34] lfaraone_: SRUing to lucid doesn't automatically affect whether there's a delta in maverick. We *can* copy SRUs from lucid to maverick after they've built, but can be asked not to. What's the package? [16:37] oops... forgot to assign to myself before subscribing universe sponsors... I hope that doesn't create unnecessary noise === nobawk is now known as nobawk|away === nobawk|away is now known as nobawk === yofel_ is now known as yofel [17:41] requestsync has failed: /usr/bin/requestsync:31: DeprecationWarning: please use 'debian' instead of 'debian_bundle' [17:49] on lucid or on maverick? [17:49] maverick [17:53] it doesn't work at all because of this warning? [17:53] in the course of fiddling with Makefiles and things trying to make mit-scheme build on i386, i saw error messages popping up suggesting to transition 3.0 (quilt). Would this be a good idea? === nobawk is now known as nobawk|away [17:55] geser: it's only warning. I've completed the bug description, but requestsync fails at the end, during send packets to launchpad [17:57] ari-tczew: did you get any error? it might be an LP API issue, as I've seen many timeouts (503 service unavailable) recently [17:57] heh I didn't save [17:58] now I requested sync manually, so requestsync should tell me about duplicate [17:58] and I can't reproduce bug message [17:58] I'm currently fixing the warning for trunk (thanks for the notice) [17:58] geser: I'll look for any sync and try again to reproduce bug [17:58] you might be lucky to get it through or trigger an timeout, it's not really predictable or repeatable [17:59] geser: I think that it's could be a timeout [17:59] dutchie: different patch systems in debian and ubuntu for the same package make syncing between these distributions harder [18:00] geser: is it possible due to long description of bug? [18:00] carstenh: there's no patch system at the moment [18:00] carstenh: presumably, if I did, it would make more sense to submit it to debian and sync it? [18:01] ari-tczew: I don't know the reasons for the many timeouts recently. I assume they are also the reason for the FTBFS page being out-of-date. [18:02] geser: is it possible due to DDoS on launchpad? [18:03] dutchie: I would just wait until debian switches. people don't like non-functional changes in "their" packages made by other people [18:03] carstenh: fair enough [18:10] geser: that looks bug requested manually, because requestsync has been crashed: bug 591349 [18:10] Launchpad bug 591349 in chef (Ubuntu) "Sync chef 0.8.16-4 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/591349 [18:28] http://pastebin.com/T170RhPn :( [18:29] debian's mit-scheme does not have this problem? [18:30] don't know [18:30] (this is after me fiddling with it) [18:31] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/48268732/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-i386.mit-scheme_9.0.1-1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz is the build log from the buildds [18:35] etc/create-makefiles.sh: 53: mit-scheme-i386: not found [18:35] yes [18:36] i fixed that (probably wrongly) by doing MIT_SCHEME_EXE="/usr/bin/mit-scheme-native" ./configure in debian/rules [18:39] did it fix this problem? [18:41] it fixed the mit-scheme-i386 not found problem [18:41] but no I get the problem I pasted just now [18:43] have you tried contacting the Debian maintainer for help? [18:43] question to sponsors: who think that package doesn't need to be synced, because package seems to be the same? [18:44] ari-tczew: not a sponsor,but if version is same in ubuntu and debian,why sync it? [18:44] ari-tczew: have you an example? [18:44] geser: bug 591342 [18:44] Launchpad bug 591342 in mistelix (Ubuntu) "Fake sync mistelix 0.31-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/591342 [18:45] no, not yet. should I? [18:45] btw anyone know how to package java stuff? please join #ubuntu-packaging :) [18:45] shadeslayer: because if we'll sync package and Debian will release a new package revision (version), then package will get in Ubuntu automatically [18:46] ari-tczew: uh.. not true [18:46] dutchie: you could at least try if you are out of ideas what is broken [18:46] shadeslayer: ? [18:47] ari-tczew: the package might need a merge or sync depending on the condition whether or not i works as in ubuntu as well [18:47] geser: ok, thanks for the pointer [18:48] shadeslayer: first heard. us job is remove diff between Ubuntu and Debian. are you a sponsor? [18:48] ari-tczew: fakesync because of different md5sum of the .orig.tar.gz? [18:48] geser: yes [18:48] ari-tczew: no im not a sponsor :) [18:48] shadeslayer: I thought [18:49] geser on the other hand probably is :P [18:49] ari-tczew: i mentioned it in my first chat ;) [18:50] shadeslayer: "not a sponsor" heh, not precisely, who "not sponsor" [18:50] ari-tczew: hehe :P [18:50] you should write "I'm not a sponsor, but I think that..." [18:51] geser: have you objections about sync package if packages seems to be almost the same or the same? [18:51] no objections in general [18:51] fine [18:51] but because this is a fakesync, I'm not sure if it's really worth it [18:52] geser: really [18:52] I see the benefit of being able to auto-sync in future (when a new upstream version is uploaded). but till then fakesyncs are needed. [18:53] Hello MOTU, wondered if somone could have a look at xserver-xorg-video-nouveau for maverick, it seems to of failed its last build becuase its still depending on Xserver 1.7 [18:54] x-swat team should help us in xserver [18:55] nperry: there is a Xorg transition in maverick going on right now but I don't know how far it's already done [18:55] I thought it has been completed [18:56] Hang on a second, I dont think it should be motu should be talking to shouldn't it be X swat? [18:57] nperry: xserver is in main, so nope, motu are not the ones properly in charge no. [18:57] yes, #ubuntu-x should know better about the Xorg state in maverick right now [18:58] Sorry my mistake! [18:58] nperry: Timo Aaltonen is knowledge developer of X packages. you can find him on launchpad === Amto_res is now known as Amto`Off [19:01] what're the units on the disk utility's benchmarking tool's horizontal axis (percentage of what)? [19:09] geser: btw are all your merges done? [19:09] i checked yesterday and only 3-4 were left :P [19:11] shadeslayer: are you looking for work? [19:12] ari-tczew: hehe.. yes,but i can do it only from friday [19:12] shadeslayer: didn't check recently [19:12] geser: of the 26 there originally only 3-4 are left in universe :P [19:13] ari-tczew: basically i know some packaging and am looking at enhancing my knowledge [19:13] there are also some in main [19:13] geser: if theyre not gone till friday ill have a look :P [19:14] shadeslayer: maybe you want to get some knowledge in fixing security issues? [19:15] ari-tczew: hmm... how tough is it? ive been using kubuntu for the past 1.5 years and have packaged some kde apps and help out in packaging KDE, my lp page is : launchpad.net/~rohangarg [19:16] ari-tczew: so maybe you can guide me with how to proceed :P [19:17] shadeslayer: sure, but now I'm going to cycling [19:17] shadeslayer: please read yesterday's logs from this channel [19:17] ari-tczew: any specific time? [19:17] I teached dupondje to prepare security fixes [19:17] thanks :) [19:18] similiar to now [19:18] 18-20 UTC +2H [19:18] ari-tczew: ill just do a search for dupondje [19:20] ari-tczew: found them :) [19:22] nice, I'm going on bike, see you [19:36] hi motu, I was wondering if someone could help me with packaging a java application [19:36] in particular, open-source liferay, src can be found at http://www.liferay.com/downloads/liferay-portal/additional-files [19:37] I read all of http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide but I can't seem to make it work -- I can edit the control file and run debuild, I've set up my gpg key but I get a 1.7kb empty deb package === echidnaman is now known as JontheEchidna [20:11] samliu: I'm not familiar with Java packaging, but do you have some particular problem? [20:23] oh hi Rain, yes I am not sure how to package my application [20:23] in particular, I'm confused about the whole ./configure make make install thing [20:23] jono: hi, where I can find more info about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-m-document-daily-builds ? [20:24] isnt' that only for C/C++ programs? how do I create an installer for my program, I guess that's my question [20:29] DeeJay1, email dholbach - he can give you all the details [20:30] jono: ok, will do as I'm really interested in it (as currently I run the daily builds for Emerillon manually ) [20:32] DeeJay1, it is really awesome - he can give you the details :-) [20:36] jono: I've noticed that a few cool things are coming in Launchpad and some nice improvements for Rosetta also (the one thing I still miss in Rosetta is "add comment" function for reviewers) [20:56] samliu: Yes, that's only for stuff using autotools. [20:56] samliu: In your case it'll be different, depending on what build system your application uses. [20:58] samliu: I can't find any info on packaging for Java, so I guess the best would be to look at some similar existing package as example. [21:20] thanks Rain, I will look into it [21:27] slangasek: sugar-0.88, but I haven't uploaded it yet. === lfaraone_ is now known as lfaraone [21:29] lfaraone: ok - that package already has a newer version in maverick, so no risk of clobbering anything there anyway === quentusrex_ is now known as quentusrex === DreamThi1f is now known as DreamThief [21:56] slangasek: okay, just uploaded, re bug 542338. it'll show up in the queue in a few minutes. [21:56] Launchpad bug 542338 in sugar-0.88 (Ubuntu) "GDM crashes when Sugar session is selected" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/542338 [22:01] Any chance someone could take a look at my merge of mpd? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mpd/+bug/591307 [22:01] Ubuntu bug 591307 in mpd (Ubuntu) "request to merge mpd 0.15.9-2 from debian testing" [Undecided,New] [22:04] * ajmitch really wishes that the diffs generated for merges were against debian [22:04] ajmitch: bzr diff --old lp:debian/sid/$package [22:05] slangasek: right, it's just a bit harder to eyeball a 25k line diff on launchpad [22:05] I have a control.in file with @PLUGINS_DESCRIPTION@, where is that fetched from ? [22:05] I'm fetching the branches now & will do that, it just takes more time to check it [22:05] oh, on launchpad; I wouldn't attempt to review a bzr branch through the web gui [22:05] especially when my very next step would be to download the branch anyway [22:06] I tend to look at the diff on LP to catch any obvious issues before grabbing the branch [22:06] saves time on my abysmally slow connection :) [22:06] (need a good way to have local source mirrors of bzr branches though; hmm, maybe I should file a bug on udd about this) [22:07] * ajmitch fetches both ubuntu & debian branches into a shared repository before diffing [22:11] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit-plugins/+bug/590831 => does the merge look good ? :) [22:11] Ubuntu bug 590831 in gedit-plugins (Ubuntu) "Merge gedit-plugins 2.30.0-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] [22:12] Riddell: nice going :) [22:14] funkyHat: you seem to have missed the changes to debian/control in the changelog [22:16] ajmitch: I didn't make any changes myself, are they not just a result of the merge? [22:16] slangasek: huh. LP had an older version of the package so it was rejected as being older than the current version in lucid. reuploaded. [22:16] * funkyHat looks [22:16] funkyHat: they are, but you need to list all remaining changes from debian [22:17] see the changelog entry for 0.15.4-1ubuntu1 [22:17] ajmitch: oh... silly me [22:18] ajmitch: can I simply amend the changelog, commit and push again, or do I need to do something different? [22:18] apart from that it looks good at a glance, though listing previous changes that are dropped in this upload can be useful, like the patch from upstream [22:18] yes, you can just do that [22:30] done [22:39] funkyHat: given the speed of apt-get update in pbuilder, it may be a little while before I can upload it :) [22:39] ajmitch: ⢁) [23:46] porthose: ping [23:47] porthose: what gives you authority to ack bug 590202 ? [23:47] Launchpad bug 590202 in pybliographer (Ubuntu) "Sync pybliographer 1.2.12-3.2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/590202 [23:49] Riddell: what is wrong in above bug ^^ ? [23:50] it's been ACKed by porthose but he doesn't seem to be a member of ubuntu-dev [23:50] Riddell: he does upload rights to some packages, iirc [23:50] but I can't recall how that's checked [23:51] Riddell: he is a MOTU (https://edge.launchpad.net/~cjsmo), 3rd badge from left [23:52] and Latest memberships mentions even the date (MOTU since 2010-01-08) [23:52] I didn't think people were still getting added to ~motu, but to ~ubuntu-dev (which he's an indirect member of) [23:53] ubuntu-dev = motu + core-dev + ppu [23:53] so ~motu gives you upload rights? [23:53] Riddell: of course [23:53] :O [23:54] ~motu gives uploads rights to universe and multiverse [23:54] what's the one which is just a membership but doesn't give you upload rights? [23:54] universe contributors [23:54] ~universe-contributors [23:55] ah, that's my mistake then [23:58] Riddell: thanks for doing syncs anyway :) [23:58] now that heimdal is in, I can file one for krb5-auth-dialog [23:59] but since I'm done with syncs for today it'll probably stay there until my next archive day next week :) [23:59] surely they'll be done more than once a week?