[00:04] <akgraner> :-)
[00:04] <ZachK_> hey akgraner
[00:04] <akgraner> ZachK_, hey!
[00:05] <ZachK_> akgraner: i'm going for Ubuntu Membership tomorrow...think you could pass me a testimonial? Buddy?
[00:08] <akgraner> ZachK_, let me take a look - I have it set as a reminder to be at the meeting :-)  let me see what I can do
[00:08] <ZachK_> akgraner: it's at five am my time...what time will it be for you?
[00:10] <akgraner> ZachK_, I have the American's board set - but I have it listed as the 17th
[00:11] <ZachK_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/AsiaOceania
[00:11] <ZachK_> it's that one
[00:11] <akgraner> well darn
[00:11] <akgraner> I am glad you said something today
[00:11] <akgraner> ZachK_, 6am :-)
[00:12] <akgraner> I'll be up and online then too
[00:12] <ZachK_> oh cool
[00:12] <ZachK_> so it's 6 pm for me...7pm for you i take it then?
[00:12] <akgraner> I'm 4 hours behind UTC right now
[00:12] <ZachK_> ah
[00:13]  * ZachK_ will be back shortly
[00:13] <ZachK_> chores to do
[00:13] <akgraner> k :-)
[00:17] <scott_ev> man, I wonder if it's too late to get on the list for tomorrow's meeting.  I'm ready for membership as well
[00:23] <akgraner> scott_ev, the americas board is June 17th
[00:28] <scott_ev> nice then I have time
[00:28] <scott_ev> thanks
[00:38] <akgraner> yeppers :-)
[00:38] <akgraner> you need to nudge johnc as well to give you a testimonial
[00:38] <akgraner> :-)
[00:58] <scott_ev> I have one
[00:58] <scott_ev> from him
[00:59] <scott_ev> and tyche and kennymc0 and a bud in OKC
[00:59] <akgraner> sweet!
[00:59] <scott_ev> I need one from you and from matthew helmke but he really doesn't know me very well
[00:59] <scott_ev> then again neither do you
[01:04] <akgraner> scott_ev, no worries :-)  what is the link to your wiki and I'll look at it tonight as well
[01:05] <scott_ev> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/j.scott.gwin - I have a couple of entries to make but it's mostly complete and up to date
[01:30] <akgraner> links have been added to the googledoc and the wiki - whichever you are more comfortable with add it there :-) and thanks again - I am going to update with wiki for the howto and who is doing what :-)
[01:37] <nigelb> akgraner: Nice doc :) So you want summaries of the links you've given there right?
[01:39] <akgraner> nigelb, let's find you a section :-)
[01:39] <nigelb> I just woke, not at my best, but since you're around, I'll take on something for practice :)
[01:42] <akgraner> nigelb, how about the LoCo team stuff?
[01:42] <akgraner> take a look at a few past issues for some inspiration if ya need to :-)
[01:44] <nigelb> ok :)
[02:04] <nigelb> akgraner: I'd better do the news stuff when I get back from work in the evening.  I'm just in the wrong mood to write.
[02:05] <akgraner> nigelb, I know the feeling :-)
[02:05] <akgraner> no worries at all
[03:39] <scott_ev> akgraner: where should I put AZ LoCo stuff that I want added to the UWN?
[04:07] <akgraner> I'll see if I can get the LoCo Calendar added this week to the Fridge and see if they will update the pages to Say "Calendars" with links on that page to the various other calendars
[04:08] <akgraner> If it is an article - we just need a link to the original source and title and if you are willing to write the summary the summary as well
[04:09] <akgraner> ok now I am off to bed...
[04:19] <akgraner> so for the record - while I understand their are some loco teams who have their information on the Fridge Calendar - we are not making this a habit and as soon as the LoCo Calendar is in place we will be moving those off of there.  I am not going to argue this point - I am however making aggressive and steady efforts to fix this.  Thanks for understanding and this will be non-issue in less than a month
[10:23] <ZachK_> akgraner: ping?
[11:27] <akgraner> ZachK_, pong
[11:28] <ZachK_> akgraner: ping
[11:28] <ZachK_> akgraner: the meeting my dear
[11:28] <ZachK_> akgraner: i'm not up yet but will be.....soon
[11:28] <ZachK_> AND i wanted to discuss wiki...
[11:28] <akgraner> I know - I added stuff to your page ...but don't know that I will be right in front of my screen - I am in the middle of 2 other things
[11:28] <akgraner> :-)
[11:29] <ZachK_> i caught the testimonial...thanks very much
[11:29] <akgraner> Ping me after the meeting and we can discuss wikis
[11:29] <akgraner> :-)
[11:30] <ZachK_> yup
[11:42] <akgraner> ZachK_, thanks!
[11:59] <ZachK_> akgraner: ok i'm in....
[11:59] <akgraner> Congrats!
[12:00] <akgraner> :-)
[12:00] <ZachK_> thanks
[12:00] <akgraner> Hey everyone - ZachK_ is one of the newest Ubuntu Members :-)  \0/
[12:05] <ZachK_> akgraner: ok wiki work my dear
[12:06] <akgraner> ZachK_, I am in the middle of something - :-)
[12:07] <ZachK_> ok
[12:07] <ZachK_> take your time...
[12:07] <akgraner> ZachK_, the my dear was cute once
[12:07] <akgraner> :-D
[12:07]  * ZachK_ is hyped up on MountainDew....
[12:07] <akgraner> hehe
[12:07] <ZachK_> which means i'm gonna be up all day..been up since three yesterday
[12:07] <ZachK_> need to stay up all day though so i go to bed tonight at a decen hour....
[12:08] <ZachK_> not like four am like i have been
[12:58] <akgraner> ZachK_, ping ok finished with one item - and I have an hour or so before my next call
[12:58] <ZachK_> akgraner: :D
[12:58] <akgraner> can you talk wiki's now?
[12:58] <akgraner> awesome
[12:58]  * ZachK_ can always talk wiki
[12:58] <ZachK_> wiki is in my blood
[12:58] <akgraner> so I have started just editing some of the pages
[12:59] <ZachK_> ok
[12:59] <ZachK_> linkys?
[12:59] <akgraner>  /UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/EditingPolicies
[13:00] <akgraner> nothing on the Front Pages yet
[13:00] <akgraner> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewsTeam
[13:00] <akgraner> this is the public one I think we need to start with
[13:01] <akgraner> so let's just look at that one :-)
[13:02] <ZachK_> ok
[13:02] <ZachK_> news team page is nice
[13:04] <akgraner> nods but under organization - instead of projects  - we need Fridge and Newsletter
[13:05] <ZachK_> ah i think i know what you mean
[13:06] <ZachK_> that entails changing the headers
[13:06] <ZachK_> which i know how to do
[13:06] <ZachK_> ?
[13:07] <akgraner> with links to those
[13:07] <akgraner> and we can still have the projects page it just needs to be updated
[13:07] <akgraner> as well as the Idea Pool Page needs to be created
[13:07] <akgraner> well just adding to them
[13:07] <akgraner> I like the way they look now and I think most people go as well
[13:08] <ZachK_> ok so the Organization header will have,
[13:08] <ZachK_> Fridge
[13:08] <ZachK_> Launchpad
[13:08] <ZachK_> Projects
[13:08] <ZachK_> Newsletter
[13:08] <ZachK_> or Fridge Launchpad
[13:08] <ZachK_> Projects Newsletter
[13:08] <akgraner> I added the Idea Pool page
[13:08] <akgraner> so organization can be
[13:09] <akgraner> The Fridge - link to the Fridge page
[13:09] <ZachK_> yup
[13:09] <akgraner> Newsletter - link to current issue page
[13:09] <ZachK_> projects -link to current projects
[13:09] <akgraner> Projects project page
[13:09] <akgraner> but the page will need to be updated
[13:10] <akgraner> to reflect the current team ect
[13:10] <ZachK_> True
[13:10] <akgraner> I think 2008 is the last time it was updated
[13:10] <ZachK_> ok so you want me to do what exactly
[13:10] <akgraner> add those links
[13:10] <ZachK_> and the meeting last time did have new stuff for us
[13:10] <ZachK_> ok
[13:10] <ZachK_> gimme a few
[13:10] <akgraner> and see if you can work on updating projects page
[13:11] <akgraner> if you have questions - you can ask them here or
[13:11] <akgraner> http://ietherpad.com/news-team-wikis
[13:11] <ZachK_> ok..that header is WAY Way way wAy bad
[13:12] <ZachK_> i mean i'm all for having one header but breaking it up is easier to edit
[13:12] <ZachK_> but thats me
[13:12] <akgraner> as long as the info on the front of it is good - I don't care how it's done as long as people can figure out how to edit it :-) if need be - Keep it Simple
[13:13] <ZachK_> ooh..question...can i be aded to the fridge editors?
[13:13] <akgraner> so if you have to rework it that's fine too - but can we keep the look the same :-)
[13:13] <ZachK_> ok
[13:13] <ZachK_> I'll figure something out
[13:14] <akgraner> ZachK_, not yet on the Fridge editor thing - people nominate people for that
[13:14] <akgraner> it's not a self nomination things
[13:14] <ZachK_> ah
[13:14] <akgraner> thing
[13:14] <akgraner> give it a little more time :-)
[13:14] <akgraner> marathon - not a sprint :-)
[13:15] <ZachK_> yeah...forgot that
[13:15] <ZachK_> I endorse ZachK_'s work on the UBT ( Ubuntu Beginners Team ) totally. He has shown real drive and motivation with regards to leading our Wiki team. I thought for sure that ZachK_ would have quit the team in the first month. I tend to see a lot of people who are "over-motivated", and they don't last long. ZachK_ proved me wrong. I was 100% off base, and I had no idea that drive was just they way ZachK_ works.
[13:15] <akgraner> ZachK_, not trying to be mean, rude, or exclusive  - hope you understand...
[13:15] <ZachK_> that was paultag's recommendation
[13:15] <ZachK_> akgraner: and i don't take it that way...completely understand
[13:16] <akgraner> yeah - you got some great testimonials there - they speak very highly of you!
[13:16] <ZachK_> i honestly didn't expect to get one from p-tag
[13:16] <ZachK_> thanks for yours too
[13:17] <akgraner> you're welcome - so use - http://ietherpad.com/news-team-wikis
[13:17] <akgraner> if you have content ideas etc and myself or someone else can comment as well -
[13:17] <akgraner> so anyone who wants to help work on the wikis and collaborate will time  - can use the etherpad :-)
[13:18] <akgraner> popey, see etherpads rule! :-)
[13:18] <popey> :)
[13:18] <popey> (I dont use ietherpad, but others)
[13:18] <popey> but yes, etherpads rule
[13:18] <popey> (yes, i have etherpad on highlight)
[13:19] <ZachK_> akgraner: do you still want the lp link under organization?
[13:19] <ZachK_> it's seems repetitive to me
[13:20] <akgraner> move it communication for now
[13:20] <ZachK_> ok
[13:20] <ZachK_> what's the newsletter current page link...so it's correct
[13:21] <akgraner> wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewlestter/Current
[13:22] <akgraner> Newsletter
[13:22] <akgraner> let me try this again
[13:22] <ZachK_> ok
[13:22] <akgraner> wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Current
[13:22] <akgraner> ^^^
[13:22] <akgraner> it's a redirect to the current issue
[13:22] <ZachK_> kk
[13:23] <akgraner> I have to work on a few things - so if you get stuck or have questions ping me  - I'll pop in and out
[13:23] <ZachK_> roger
[13:24] <ZachK_> should it be "Current Newsletter" Or just "Newsletter"
[13:25] <ZachK_> akgraner: ^^
[13:27] <ZachK_> hello Pendulum
[13:27] <akgraner> ZachK_, look at the UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter page :-)  there is a link for the current issue there  as well...
[13:27] <akgraner> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter
[13:28] <akgraner> it's UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Current
[13:28] <akgraner> DOH
[13:28] <akgraner> just Newsletter
[13:28] <akgraner> sorry
[13:28] <akgraner> ahhh to many things at once
[13:28] <ZachK_> L O L
[13:28] <ZachK_> i'm starring at markup code...don't distract me!
[13:28] <ZachK_> lol kidding
[13:29] <akgraner> hehe
[13:29] <akgraner> nhandler, are you a mailing list guru?
[13:30] <akgraner> me needs to pick someone's brain for a few minutes
[13:30]  * akgraner needs to pick someone's brain for a few minutes
[13:30] <akgraner> that's better
[13:30]  * ZachK_ is done with the header... akgraner take a look
[13:30] <akgraner> refreshing
[13:31] <akgraner> cool thanks
[13:31] <ZachK_> :D
[13:32] <akgraner> Communication - should be contact us
[13:32] <akgraner> and there should be a Mailing List and IRC option on there
[13:33] <akgraner> the IRC link needs to be available as a weblink as well  let me know if you need my help with those
[13:33] <akgraner> the mailing list link needs to take people to the page where they can sign up etc...
[13:35] <ZachK_> ohhkk
[13:37] <akgraner> brb gotta reboot
[13:37] <ZachK_> akgraner: the mailing list link is tthere
[13:37] <ZachK_> and so is the contact us..which should stay on the main tab imo
[13:40] <akgraner> good grief  - I have a ton of updates - wow
[13:41] <akgraner> ZachK_, it can be in both places
[13:41] <akgraner> most people look for Contact Us
[13:41] <akgraner> not Communication
[13:41] <ZachK_> oh you want me to rename communication to Contact US
[13:41] <ZachK_> rightr?
[13:41] <akgraner> we also need to Forum Link there as well
[13:42] <akgraner> yeppers thanks!
[13:42] <ZachK_> ok whats the forum link
[13:45] <akgraner> hmm - need to add UWN-Forum Link - http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=243
[13:46] <akgraner> and The Fridge-Forum Link - http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=122
[13:46] <ZachK_> ok
[13:46] <ZachK_> those two links...where to put them?
[13:46] <akgraner> the news team proper doesn't have a forum link - but I want people to see those right off the bat...
[13:48] <akgraner> ZachK_, hmm - good questions since it's more for discussion on what has been posted
[13:48] <ZachK_> exactly
[13:48] <ZachK_> definitely not a "Contact Us" section
[13:49] <akgraner> Add Forums to Contact us - but we'll link back to the Front page with an explanation
[13:49] <akgraner> so don't actually link Forum to anything just yet - just add the option there
[13:49] <ZachK_> ok
[13:52] <ZachK_> what about the fridge forum
[13:52] <ZachK_> could put that under the News Team header
[13:57] <akgraner> that's fine
[13:58] <akgraner> do the same for UWN on the Forums
[13:58] <akgraner> you can move it off of the contact us
[13:58] <akgraner> just play with it - we can tweak it later - sometimes it's easier to see something then tweak it :-)
[13:58] <ZachK_> ok
[13:58] <ZachK_> very true
[14:00] <akgraner> wow - all my updates just finished
[14:00] <akgraner> brb
[14:07] <ZachK_> akgraner: hows that
[14:08]  * akgraner goes to look :-)
[14:09] <akgraner> Cool
[14:09] <akgraner> hmmm
[14:09]  * ZachK_ doesn't like hmms
[14:10] <akgraner> nah -it's good
[14:10] <ZachK_> cool
[14:10] <akgraner> I am just thinking  - there maybe a better way to do this  - can you play around with it - and see what you can come up with
[14:10] <ZachK_> yeah i can do that
[14:11] <ZachK_> Also, the project page...you said that it needs an update...what info needs to go up there?
[14:11] <akgraner> Keep it simple  - and clean and light :-)  like the new theme - I think I may be trying to get to much stuff in those headers
[14:11] <akgraner> :-/
[14:12] <akgraner> so you can just play around with it - and we'll just tweak it :-)  make sense?
[14:12] <ZachK_> I think you're right about that....thinking i can add alot of that as info on the wiki..make it more robust
[14:13] <akgraner> nods - I think I am just not thinking with a wiki hat on at the moment
[14:13] <akgraner> sorry
[14:13] <ZachK_> lol
[14:13] <ZachK_> that's why you got me remember?
[14:13] <akgraner> - so for members Fridge
[14:13] <ZachK_> i'll be right back
[14:14] <akgraner> nhandler, pleia2 myself for now - as I think we are the ones who post most actively
[14:14] <ZachK_> what about 'em
[14:14] <akgraner> add them in place of the names on the project page
[14:15] <ZachK_> ah ok
[14:15] <ZachK_> would you be willing to nominate me?
[14:15] <akgraner> ZachK_, that's not cool to just ask like that
[14:16] <akgraner> it makes everyone uncomfortable - I haven't been an editor long enough to nominate anyone
[14:16] <akgraner> yet
[14:16] <ZachK_> sorry...i'm not thinking straight myself
[14:17] <ZachK_> If i'd gone to sleep like i should i wouldn't have such a high level of improprietary right now
[14:17] <ZachK_> be back in a sec
[14:17] <akgraner> no worries :-) it's all the mountain dew energy you have there
[14:17] <ZachK_> gotta make a phone call
[14:17] <akgraner> k no worries
[14:27]  * ZachK_ back
[14:28] <ZachK_> akgraner:
[14:29] <akgraner> cool - one sec :-) fixing an issue
[15:12] <cjohnston> akgraner: what do you think about adding "Calendars" before Popular Content and under Navigation.. And then providing links to each. I don't think all the calendars should be on the same page since they will have different instructions for adding things to them..
[15:12] <cjohnston> brb
[15:13] <akgraner> cjohnston, yep working on all that :-)
[15:14] <akgraner> but joey could change the front page and I can't so tracking down someone else who has super admin privilege is what's the hold up
[15:14] <akgraner> it's a lovely thing :-)  - I emailed newz and cc'd joey this morning
[15:15] <akgraner> brb
[19:04] <akgraner> cjohnston, ping
[19:57] <nhandler> akgraner: Need help with the ML still?
[21:27] <cjohnston> akgraner: pong