[00:00] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/446338/ <- somehow the echo status line gets eaten [00:02] ccheney: which of the echo lines? [00:03] the echo "status = $?" doesn't appear [00:03] i think maybe exec causes it to not be printed === AdamDV is now known as Guest1506 [00:03] i am configuring a new ubuntu server hiwch is working as a dhcp server (i think) but i can't ping it, ssh it, or get samba shares off it. is there anything obvious i'm missing? is it firewalled by default or something like that? [00:03] another option is to write the logs to individual files [00:03] hey guys, has anyone here installed Open-Xchange on teh new Ubuntu 10 ? [00:07] nm this idea isn't well thought out [00:07] i think it won't work period [00:08] i think the only easy way to make it work properly will be to log into a directory with full timestamp in the filename [00:11] ccheney: yes, I agree [00:13] my sshd config file says i'm listening on port 22, the service says it's running OK, but netstat doesn't report i'm listening on 22 [00:15] hggdh, ok i think i have a script that will log everything properly now :) [00:15] i got one status 5 so far [00:15] /sbin/vgcreate vg-1n2UFQ.. /dev/loop60 [00:15] /var/lock/lvm/P_orphans: flock failed: Resource temporarily unavailable [00:15] Can't get lock for orphan PVs [00:15] status = 5 [00:17] another thing....service smbd status says it' [00:17] cool i think this might actually be useful [00:17] says it's running, but sevice --statusall shows a ? [00:17] ccheney: maybe we are using all lock memory [00:17] ? [00:18] hggdh, hmm maybe so how does that work? [00:18] ccheney: good Q, I do not remember anymore... [00:18] * hggdh goes back to RTFM [00:21] i've upgrading this server from karmic to lucid and the only thing that's running is dhcpd...my old config files are intact...i'm lost [00:25] hggdh, this is weird i'm seeing what appears to be euca trying to force remove active pv's [00:26] ccheney: you mean some other pv (and not the one that would be removed? [00:26] oh i see why now [00:29] hggdh, my grep was a bit faulty and matched too widely [00:29] oh, OK [00:29] hggdh, so now i see how it is working [00:30] ccheney: is there contention for the lock? [00:30] it calls eg, lvremove that works, then calls vgremove and it fails, then calls pvremove without caring it failed [00:30] without caring vgremove failed [00:30] vgremove failed due to [00:31] /sbin/vgremove vg-g7thcw.. [00:31] /var/lock/lvm/P_orphans: flock failed: Resource temporarily unavailable [00:31] Can't get lock for orphan PVs [00:31] status = 5 [00:31] so maybe contention for lvm lock [00:31] I had a feeling euca was not worried about failures when I was cleaning up the mess I was left with [00:31] but since euca doesn't check its return codes and continues on like nothing is wrong it dies horribly [00:32] ok, well got to run and pick up food for my wife, bbia 30-45m [00:32] k [00:32] i wouldn't be surprised at all if the losing ip issue is the same type of problem, not checking error codes [00:33] i'll follow up to the bug report when i get back [00:34] this is sooo wrong... === unreal_ is now known as unreal [00:48] mathiaz: acked on the format change [01:05] mathiaz (or zul): the samba apport hook should be initially packaged for Maverick or Lucid? [01:13] there is already one for lucid [01:13] hggdh: so patches accepted [01:13] zul: yes, I am adding the test for /etc/samba/smb.conf [01:13] hggdh: cool === matthew is now known as Guest22728 [01:25] zul: I submitted a merge request for maverick (and added you as reviewer to my branch). I *think* this is what I should have done, but I am not sure [01:28] hggdh: actually no...the right thing to do in this case is to open up a bunch in launchpad with the patch and then nag me to death ;) [01:29] zul: a bug, you mean? [01:29] darn! [01:29] hggdh: yep [01:30] zul: doing it right now. And please consider yourself being nagged to death ;-) [01:30] hggdh: ok thanks [01:30] hggdh: yay! [01:30] :-) [01:33] oooo [01:33] elinks has pretty colored build scripts [01:43] zul: bug 591043 opened, can you please review? [01:43] Launchpad bug 591043 in samba "merge request: changing source_samba.py" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/591043 [01:44] hggdh: yep first thing tomorrow [01:44] zul: thank you. Please correct me as needed === oubiwann_ is now known as oubiwann [01:45] I am running Ubuntu Server on VirtualBox. I am not using X Windows, only the command line. It looks like it is redrawing the screen for every line that causes the screen to shift down. In other words if there is empty space on the screen below the current line, it works normally, but if the current line is at the bottom of the screen, when the system moves to the next line it refreshes the whole screen line by line. This causes [01:45] Why does Ubuntu Server redraw the screen for each line? Is there a way to make this behaviour go away? [01:46] is it related to the framebuffer? [01:50] * ccheney back [01:51] New bug: #591043 in samba (main) "merge request: changing source_samba.py" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/591043 [01:53] wtf [01:53] returnValue = removeVolumeGroup(vgName); [01:53] returnValue = removePhysicalVolume(loDevName); [01:53] yea... store the returnValue and then just ignore it [01:58] and lvm does not appear to document the return codes it uses === sentabi_ is now known as sentabi [02:03] heh [02:04] ccheney: good chances of getting it better there. I really cannot understand you errors are not orked on [02:05] i posted an unspecified rant about this mess, heh [02:05] ccheney: care to give the link? [02:05] Why does Ubuntu Server redraw the screen for each line? Is there a way to make this behaviour go away? [02:06] http://chrischeney.wordpress.com/2010/06/07/error-handling/ [02:06] heh :) [02:06] dammit, how can I have so many errors in one single line? [02:06] hggdh, can't parse your comment as it had too many errors :) [02:07] ccheney: there you go... bloody dixlexia, plus a glass of wine :-( [02:07] dammit! again [02:07] hggdh, once i dig around in lvm and determine what kind of error code 5 is i will try to fix up the euca code [02:07] ccheney: roj. Glad to have you working with us :-) [02:08] hggdh, :) [02:08] hggdh, i worked for several years at a place that was pedantic about checking every error code even if it was near impossible to actually ever see the error [02:09] iirc some of the errors we checked for would have likely never gotten to the code path due to major system failure if it actually happened [02:09] ccheney: that helps, indeed. I worked on a *lot* of places where errors were only important if management saw them [02:09] heh [02:10] that's it. I am out for the night [02:12] my first guess os is create, how can i access it? [02:20] hggdh, oh yea and better, we had to document our functions [02:20] hggdh, so people actually knew what they were supposed to do and return, etc :-\ [02:20] * ccheney looking at lvm and has no clue what it is doing with its return values, weird crap [02:22] ah i think i found where the error codes are, but they aren't actually useful [02:22] lib/commands/errors.h [02:32] anyone using libvirt? [02:32] how to access my new guest os? [02:35] unewbie: look at virt-viewer [02:41] mathiaz: do i need a desktop for that? [02:42] can i just ssh? === jballard_ is now known as jballard === unreal_ is now known as unreal [03:08] ccheney: I will look at this tomorrow, done for today/night [03:08] ok [03:08] have a good night === ajmitch_ is now known as ajmitch [03:09] ccheney: you too. Please call it a day also, otherwise I will feel guity ;-) [03:09] hggdh, ok :) [03:09] * ccheney just noticed its 9pm here already, heh [03:20] it's 9 am here :D === bc_ is now known as bc [04:06] hi [04:06] all [04:07] what is the command to update the system... everytime i turn in on it says there are 27 updates availabale.. how do i run them/ === geneticx is now known as acron [04:21] how can i connect my guest os with kvm [04:30] apt-get update [04:30] apt-get upgrade [04:30] Yosi: may be that's what you need === jldugger is now known as pwnguin [05:22] Do SATA optical drives work in 8.04? [05:23] I remember that 8.04 d-i doesn't handle them, but I don't remember if the installed system will. [06:24] ahhh [06:24] ! [06:24] anyone here? [06:24] many people here [06:24] ! [06:24] just ask :D [06:25] alright i tried to ask this in the ubuntu channel but it got washed away [06:25] so [06:25] i'm trying to follow this guide here: [06:25] err... accidentally copied another link just a moment [06:25] http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-set-up-a-serial-console-on-ubuntu [06:25] ERR... no not that one either [06:25] http://derrick-caluag.blogspot.com/2006/10/how-to-setup-dial-in-server-on-linux.html [06:26] that one. i need to be able to connect to my headless server box at any time [06:26] and the only connection it has is wireless [06:26] and sometimes it fails to start [06:26] so since it's headless and if wifi goes down... well i can't do anything really. i can try to do it blind but sometimes that doesn't work :/. So I want to be able to dial into it. both pc's have modems [06:27] and its running 32bit server lucid [06:27] but /etc/inittab doesn't exist in these versions, nor does /etc/event.d apparently [06:27] so im not even sure how to do this... [06:28] so if i could have some help with that guide that would be excellent [06:29] Mgamerz: /etc/event.d because /etc/init for no good reason [06:29] ? [06:30] Sorry, predictive text [06:30] Mgamerz: /etc/event.d became /etc/init for no good reason [06:30] hmm [06:30] inittab is gone and its supposed to bind to an interface [06:30] im not sure what the dial up/telnet terminal would be labeled [06:30] although since it is a 'LAN' connection (of sorts), I assume telnet would work fine. [06:30] just having to bind a listener to the ubuntu side [06:31] I have a router running 10.04 that has a serial interface. I can dig out the /etc/init/ttyS0.conf entry if you want. [06:31] that'd be great :) [06:31] But I'm a bit confused because you're talking about serial and wifi, which is unrelated. [06:31] although is a modem (with phone line) the same as serial? [06:31] Well [06:31] the thing here is: [06:31] No, a modem is different. [06:31] ... -_- [06:31] I have a server [06:31] and i don't have access to the router from where i can put it [06:32] so i have to use wifi [06:32] but occasionally the wifi... eh just dies [06:32] and since the server is headless, i can't just do ifdown ifup [06:32] well i can but if i mistype something then well... i dont wanna have to move this monitor again and again [06:32] Mgamerz, you probably wont have telnet, but if it is server install you should have ssh [06:32] http://pastebin.com/qxBYPwHK [06:32] so if i could just dial into the server [06:32] and use a terminal that'd be excellent [06:33] Mgamerz, so are you on the network or not? [06:33] yes. [06:33] I am [06:33] telnet is also unrelated to serial lines, modems, and wifi. [06:33] Mgamerz, does the machine have an ip address and do you know it ? [06:33] i can access the server right now [06:33] im vnc'ed to it (have tightvncserver) [06:33] mgamerz .. take a look at this link ... the issue will be in finding all the pieces to get wvdial to work properly ... [06:33] http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1374108 [06:34] Mgamerz: to clarify: are you talking about a dialup (56k) modem? i.e. not ADSL, ATM, etc. modems? [06:34] yea [06:34] a pci modem card [06:34] one of the ones from the 90's hehe [06:34] too cheap to buy a null cable [06:35] A null cable is likely to work [06:35] How much is your time worth? [06:35] well i have a ton of time [06:35] Mgamerz, just to verify, the server has access to the internet - but you have no access to its router? Are you trying to access it from a remote spot with no internet ? [06:35] so not much [06:35] the server can access the internet [06:35] it can access everything i want it to [06:35] BUT!!! [06:36] sometimes the wifi that connects it to the network dies [06:36] and since it is headless, i have NO way to make it come back up without forcing a power off (not shutdown) [06:36] fluvvell: I think he has a headless box with a wifi NIC, a serial port on the motherboard, and a PCI 56k modem card. [06:36] what is the distance between where your remoted computer is and where the server is? [06:36] Mgamerz, and there is no way to wire it to the router; I think I understand [06:36] about 5 feet [06:36] my telephone wire is barely long enough to reach that far [06:37] and I'm using my ethernet port on my remoted machine [06:37] He wants to connect to it over a RJ11 cable or something [06:37] I have a mini wifi router here that also acts as a passive wifi adapter [06:37] Mgamerz, What about using a reverse network patch lead? [06:37] all you need then is a 10' (foot) cable to connect to the router then .. you don't need to worry about hooking up to wireless .. [06:37] noooo [06:37] my box is wireless too [06:37] the router is like 40 feet away [06:37] azteech, my thoughts too. [06:38] Yeah, BY FAR the easiest solution is to put in a $10 100baseT ethernet card and run a cat5 cable. [06:38] ... [06:38] then all you really need is a hub ... to connect the server and the remote unit ... and you can run cat5 cable up to 150 feet ... with no problem ... [06:38] i don't have access to the router itself [06:38] If you can't do that, the next easiest is to buy a nullmodem cable and talk serial between two serial ports. [06:38] Hi All, I hav two drives in my system.. a single sata drive on the internal controller and a RAID on a controller card.... when i installed ubuntu on the raid, i think it put the bootloader/grub on my single sata drive, is that a problem? everything seems to work fine.. [06:38] and if i want to not spend money i could get this to work [06:38] Yosi: yes, it's a problem. [06:38] Yosi: if either drive dies, you won't be able to boot [06:39] true... [06:39] better having the bootloader on the raid... [06:39] i do not feel the need to spend $10 on something that i could do for free with a bit of work :l [06:39] twb: any easy way to move it over, or can i have the bootloader on both? [06:39] Yosi: first, confirm your diagnosis by trying to boot without sda [06:39] i.e. with it unplugged [06:40] Yosi: then, you will want to install grub on all drives. Google for the phrase "setup (hd1)". There should be adequate documentation online somewhere. [06:40] i disabled the internal controller that its on, any nothing worked.. but maybe it better if i just unplug the drive [06:40] why don't you have access to the router? distance, or is it someone's elses hardware? [06:40] (You could also try "grub-install /dev/sdb", but I don't trust that.) [06:40] it is ours [06:40] but the router is a long ways away [06:40] and we have no power outlets that are open next to it [06:40] it's in our living room, and this server is... well... 'ugly' [06:40] as my parents say [06:41] so it lives in my room [06:41] twb: is there an easy way to check where the bootloader is located, i can't unplug the drive easily, i forgot the case is now locked... [06:41] i have looked on the internet and everywhere i go people always just say do this do that instead of just helping with the person's questions [06:41] so i guess [06:41] where can i find ubuntu's version of /etc/inittab? [06:41] Yosi: it's difficult to check, but it should be easy to blow it away with something you think is correct [06:41] Mgamerz: you can't. [06:41] would be the answer i am looking for [06:42] ... [06:42] okay ... then what you need to do work on, is how to get wv to work on lucid ... like I said above, and what has been said in the link I pointed you to, is to get all the pieces together ... and set up wvdial to make it work for you .... [06:42] Mgamerz: in all current versions of Ubuntu, inittab support is negligible. [06:42] i know it is [06:42] thanks, brb [06:42] i just need to know the thing it turned into [06:42] Mgamerz: it turned into /etc/init. [06:42] like how can i initialize this on boot [06:42] hmmm [06:43] There is no direct analogue of the old inittab [06:43] the problem is you are using a how-to that was done in 2006 .. there has been a lot of changes made since then ... recommend looking at the man page for wvdial . and google for wvdial to see what the latest is for lucid ... [06:44] k [06:44] believe twb is correct .. all that is now /etc/init .. [06:44] i'll see about that [06:44] yea that is the only guide i could find [06:44] i figured it had probably changed but it's the only one i could find about a dialin server [06:45] I *know* I'm correct, because it has pissed me off several times before [06:46] google for wvdial lucid .. or ubuntu 9.xx and see what you get, and look at the man pages for it ... you might get a lot closer to the answer your looking for, than a 4 year old how-to ... [06:46] lol twb ... [06:47] Mgamerz, sorry to bludgeon on with an idea you've discarded, but if money is an issue what about scavenging an old patch lead and wiring in an extension to it? You say you have access to network ports on both the server and the router could it not be wired somehow ? [06:47] or maybe you should figure out why the wireless is dropping out? [06:48] if you have so much time on your hands. You will find dial up networking speeds unbearable. [06:48] Or just call up your local luv and ask them if they have a spare 100baseT card [06:48] no [06:48] i am not using dial up to access the internet [06:49] !!! [06:49] Er s/LUV/LUG/ [06:49] i am using it to access the terminal [06:49] terminal does not require copious amounts of bandwidth [06:49] which 802.x wireless dongle are you using .. a b, g or n type? [06:49] g [06:49] it has always done it to ubuntu [06:49] when it was on this box before the HD died it killed it as well [06:49] whereas you may find many people with the knowledge to help solve your wireless troubles. [no not heaps of bandwidth, but you also said you were using vnc] [06:49] fluvvell: he wants to run a serial line between a server and a serial console, except he wants to somehow do it using two modems instead of a nullmodem serial cable. [06:49] i am using vnc right now over the wireless. [06:50] i use vnc over the wireless, when it is up [06:50] twb, yes - not a wise choice in my book as I've worked with pci modems and frankly nowadays they are a huge pain. [06:50] and when it goes down (which is occasional), i cannot access the box at all [06:51] and [06:51] fluvvell [06:51] Mgamerz, what phone system is between these computers? [06:51] a single cable [06:51] i'll take a picture it'll just be easier to show [06:51] two wires? [06:51] or four ? [06:51] 4 wire phone line [06:51] cat3 [06:52] err [06:52] gotta find my phone... [06:52] brb [06:52] with 'g' you should have a issue maintaining a connection .. unless there is a lot of walls/electronics/ or something else running in the house that is in the same freq range as that dongle ... have you tried to switch channels on it .. and see if you get a clearer signal? [06:52] yep [06:52] this is the best setup i can get on chan6 [06:53] my phone is somewhere near this pc as my monitor has fuzzed up once cause of the interference. [06:53] but where [06:53] and you have no cat5 patch leads that you could wire onto them? A reverse network patch lead only uses four wires. 40' would probably still work ok. [06:54] monitor ? Interference ? from what ? the wifi ??? [06:55] no [06:55] my phone [06:55] i have a CRT [06:55] and when it gets a call (and sometimes not) the monitor will F up [06:56] Mgamerz, my understanding of phone frequencies is that they overlap at the lower end of the wifi spectrum, therefore using channel 11 or higher if possible is desirable. Sounds like the phone is the cause of most of your problems. [06:56] fluvvell: hei is getting freq interference ... from electronics around him ... that limit him to getting best connection on channel 6 .. but he said that somewhere close to where he has his unit, something else is also causing interference with his monitor from time to time as well ... almost sounds like a grounding issue ... [06:56] no [06:56] ffs [06:56] my phone has nothing to do with this [06:56] ie wifi greater than channel 10 [06:57] alright [06:57] so to imageshack i go [06:58] Mgamerz, sry we're just trying to help. Sometimes people can be fixated on a solution which has many repercussions [06:58] but troubleshooting that is not gonna solve his request .. he needs/wants to set up wvdial on lucid ....we shouldn't be guessing him, or trying to talk him out of it ... [06:58] azteech, you're quite right of course. [06:59] yea i know [06:59] Mgamerz, what type of pci modem? [06:59] umm [06:59] lemme pull it up [06:59] i have scanmodem on the vnc window right now [06:59] scanmodem ! [06:59] Conexant Systems HSF [07:00] do you physically know the chipset ? [07:00] HSF... [07:00] just tell us it isn't a wintel modem ... cause if it is .. will be more issues to try to correct .. [07:00] ie have you eyeballed the card - believe me it helps [07:00] of course it is. [07:00] I'm just gonna go ahead and plonk this modem thread, mmmmkay? You're not gonna get anywhere. [07:00] didn't see anything about wintel in the info [07:00] yea its Conexant [07:01] azteech, that was the angle I was trying to come from. [07:01] alright [07:01] so... http://yfrog.com/3dimage1813j [07:02] on the right is my computer that i am talking to you from, this is my main pc [07:02] the monitor is hooked up to it [07:02] on the left bottom is the server [07:02] and you probably can't see it, but there is a telephone line going between them directly [07:02] via pc modems [07:02] pci* [07:03] sort of figured it was ... :) [07:03] i want to have my server act as a dial up server '(like an ISP), NOT DO CONNECTION SHARING, and just use the terminal to do stuff [07:03] that way i have an 'always on terminal' if stuff goes south [07:03] any chance of a high res photo of the actual pci cards ? [07:03] eh... they are already installed [07:03] but [07:03] the one in the server (ubuntu) is a conextant [07:04] when i looked at them earlier today that is about all i could gather from the sticker [07:04] the one in the windows is... well the one that was in the server originally [07:04] didn't think i'd ever use a modem again [07:04] also didn't realize how serial and modems are painfully intertwined [07:06] I have 2 spare ethernet pci cards [07:06] BUT [07:07] i don't have any pci room in my home PC. [07:07] I have my Graphics card which is ginormous (and sucks), a fan for it (cause my pc overheats... its like spilling its guts out) [07:07] and well... that takes up 4 slots O_o [07:07] Mgamerz, the motherboards don't have built in network ports? [07:07] they do. [07:07] But. [07:07] I have this [07:07] uh [07:07] i'll give yo uthe page it'll explain better than me [07:09] i pulled out the cable by accident reading the name [07:09] http://www.trendnet.com/products/proddetail.asp?prod=175_TEW-654TR&cat=77 [07:10] its that thingamagic [07:10] i can never spell ma-gij [07:10] ... [07:10] anyays [07:10] anyways* [07:10] it also acts as a passive client for wifi. [07:10] It's way better than dealing with the setup of windows, plus i can plug it into anything without any driver hassle. [07:11] I would use it on my server... but im greedy and use it for my pc instead. [07:11] WAIT [07:11] hmmmm [07:11] Connexant HSF 56 K Fax/modem .. is that the modem you have? [07:11] yep [07:11] gotta go, bfn. [07:11] i jsut had an idea [07:11] bfn? [07:11] I have TWO extra ethernet pci cards [07:11] fyi .. it is a windows soft modem ... meaning to make it work you will need to find a windows driver that will be compatible for linux ... [07:11] i just realized [07:12] haha i am stupid [07:12] if i can install the pci modem then i can swap it out and instead use the pci ethernet adapters and just do... [07:12] ah damnit! I don't have a crossover cable [07:12] the only one that I know of that is available .. is from linuxant .. and they charge for it .. [07:12] man linux was not made for dial up eh? [07:12] yep ... that would be the way to go ... [07:13] i need a crossover cable... [07:13] not really ... [07:13] i wish there was software based MDIX [07:13] was back in the day when all there was, was dial-up .. but even then it was a pain to set up .. [07:13] i remember when the internet used to be free [07:14] had yahoo internet [07:14] back in 96 [07:14] was the slowest pos ever [07:14] azteech: I still use dial-back modems for remote access to a secure facility. [07:14] I use dial up occasionally to telnet/console into a cisco router. [07:14] Mgamerz: and yet you still live with your parents [07:14] well [07:14] twb .. didn't say they aren't being used ... just said for him .. his situation is almost impossible unless he can find a windows driver that can be installed ... [07:14] im 17 [07:15]