[00:00] <sebsebseb> !screenshot | Sm3gal
[00:00] <gafir> acerimmer: oh right, thanks
[00:00] <mindriot> you could try stopping gdm and just typing startx from the console, to see if a regular X session comes up
[00:00] <its-me-again1> hi anyone know how to run openoffice form a terminal
[00:00] <ZenMasta> quitin time!
[00:00] <Hdale85> mindriot, but if I have XBMC set to my xsession then it would just try and start that
[00:00] <Hdale85> mindriot, how do I change my xsession manually
[00:00] <FlameTai1> Um guys, does anyone know a fix for the bug where when you enable Compiz it makes your system alerts not work?
[00:00] <ZachK_> its-me-again1: one seck
[00:00] <erUSUL> its-me-again1: oowriter &
[00:01] <alireza> ow , its my first time using x chat
[00:01] <mindriot> Hdale85, maybe XMBC would work that way, just worth an experiment
[00:01] <ZachK_> alireza: cool
[00:01] <alireza> thx
[00:01] <Hdale85> mindriot, I tried earlier and it didn't lol
[00:01] <mindriot> otherwise, backup your .xsession and create a new one that contains just an xterm...
[00:01] <ZachK_> alireza: and how are you?
[00:01] <Sm3gal> http://tinypic.com/r/mh7jwp/6
[00:01] <Sm3gal> is what it looks like
[00:01] <alireza> thnx
[00:01] <alireza> and u ?
[00:02] <doormat81> I'm a former VisualBasic programmer (amateur) but I'd like to begin developing apps for Linux.  What language and GUI interface creation software would be best (and relatively easiest) to learn?  I've found a website that recommends Ruby and Glade, but I'd like more ideas.
[00:02] <Hdale85> mindriot, I just get a black screen no mouse even when I do startx
[00:02] <emhs> doormat81: I'd lean you towards python.
[00:02] <acerimmer> doormat81: python
[00:02] <sebsebseb> doormat81: Ruby is ok, but Python is useaully recommend as a first
[00:02] <mindriot> oh, i guess I got that wrong before, I thought you got a mouse cursor.
[00:02] <mindriot> what kind of display?
[00:03] <h00k> !quickly | doormat81
[00:03] <YankDownUnder> doormat81, Python is a good point to start with.
[00:03] <Jordan_U> doormat81: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Quickly
[00:03] <h00k> !info quickly | doormat81
[00:03] <mindriot> check the X log for the mode it picked and whether your display is capable of handling it
[00:03] <sebsebseb> Sm3gal: heh in a way at the pm about the image :D
[00:03] <emhs> doormat81: There are a lot of graphical kits available for python, ranging from QT to GTK to TK and even wxWidgets
[00:03] <Sm3gal> its how it looks
[00:03] <sebsebseb> Sm3gal: ok right yeah, if when you try to boot up Ubuntu and your getting something like that showing on the screen,  then yes Plymouth crashed
[00:03] <Hdale85> if they display couldn't handle it the mouse cursor wouldn't show up when I first boot I don't think
[00:03] <Jordan_U> h00k: Great minds think alike (and so do we:)
[00:04] <h00k> Jordan_U: horray!
[00:04] <Hdale85> but the display is the same as the old one regardless, but I'll check it ou
[00:04] <Sm3gal> i thought plymouth was a car?
[00:04] <Sm3gal> well how i fix it
[00:04] <sebsebseb> Sm3gal: Plymouth is the name of the boot up that 10.04 uses
[00:04] <sebsebseb> Sm3gal: you used to see the uhmm  purple dots moving and such yes?
[00:04] <Sm3gal> how i fix it
[00:04] <Sm3gal> yes
[00:05] <doormat81> emhs, see, I'm totally new to linux programming and not too familiar with qt, gtk, tk, etc.
[00:05] <doormat81> emhs, I'm assuming I need to pick one to learn along with python in order to do anything useful?
[00:05] <sebsebseb> Sm3gal: to fix this your going to need the recovery mode, or Live CD
[00:06] <boko> Are nekoi
[00:06] <boko> Help
[00:06] <boko> ?
[00:06] <Sm3gal> all i got is a karmac cd
[00:06] <cheekee> Jordan_U: sorry I was trying to run the bootinfo script in Fedora but I don't know how to
[00:06] <sebsebseb> Sm3gal: how long does the Grub boot loader show up on  the computer for?  if it even shows
[00:06] <luka1> i am using ubuntu netbook edition. how can i move the taskbar from top of the screen to bottom?
[00:06] <IdleOne> boko: help with?
[00:06] <Sm3gal> and it just went to a black screen
[00:06] <alireza> I am HAPPY with UBUNTU
[00:06] <acerimmer> luka1: penels>properties
[00:06] <Sm3gal> about 5 seconds
[00:06] <xangua> luka1: grab it while pressing the Alt key
[00:06] <abstrakt> can anyone help me get my Broadcom STA (restricted) driver working under linux-rt
[00:06] <sebsebseb> Sm3gal: ok you got the list though?  with the kernels and such showing?
[00:06] <Hdale85> mindriot, looks like it has auto mode select
[00:06] <abstrakt> it works in the regular kernel, but not under -rt
[00:07] <cheekee> Jordan_U: and I didn't get any prev. msgs
[00:07] <Sm3gal> no i gta get cd from brothers room
[00:07] <luka1> xangua: it doesn't work
[00:07] <abstrakt> and does anyone know where i can find the list of what software to remove from ubuntu to make it "ubuntu studio"
[00:07] <voip_troll> Is it possible to fdisk an internal SATA drive in a USB cradle?
[00:07] <luka1> acerimmer: where do i find panels?
[00:07] <abstrakt> i know what to add, but apparently there's stuff i should remove as well
[00:07] <acerimmer> luka1: right click on the panel you want to move
[00:07] <Jordan_U> cheekee: Right now Fedora is controlling the boot menu, and not giving an option to boot Ubuntu. I am pretty sure that if you let Ubuntu controll the boot menu, it will give an option to boot fedora
[00:07] <sebsebseb> Sm3gal: when the computer loads up I think its if you hold down esc
[00:08] <IdleOne> abstrakt: #ubuntustudio might know the exact packages
[00:08] <sebsebseb> Sm3gal: Grub 2's boot menu will show up, if not already showing
[00:08] <cheekee> I am happy with Ubuntu too. I only want to have the extra capability to triple or quadruble boot a PC with grub 2
[00:08] <h00k> !dualboot
[00:08] <h00k>  cheekee ^
[00:08] <Sm3gal> k
[00:08] <Sm3gal> in recovery mode
[00:09] <|corpse|> whats the best way to get windows media 9 decoder to work in unbuntu?
[00:09] <sebsebseb> Sm3gal: yes  you want recovery mode,  thats the easiest way to try and fix
[00:09] <Jordan_U> cheekee: Then follow this guide to install Ubuntu's grub2 to your mbr: http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[00:09] <Hdale85> there is a file to change the default xsession but I can't remember where it is.... I think maybe I just have an issue with XBMC
[00:09] <luka1> acerimmer: right-click options "remove from panel" "move" "lock to panel" are grayed out and can't click em
[00:09] <ahuang> When I boot my computer, after grub, there is a considerably long blank screen before a quick purple ubuntu splash screen and then my desktop. Is this normal?
[00:09] <Jordan_U> cheekee: It will work just the same from your fedora installation as it would if you were running in a liveCD
[00:09] <Sm3gal> i got resume clean dpkg failsafe grub and netroot
[00:09] <acerimmer> cheekee: be aware that grub2 will fail if u have more than 4 primary partitions
[00:09] <Sm3gal> what one
[00:10] <IdleOne> ahuang: I have the same thing, last from 5 to 15 seconds. I assume it is normal
[00:10] <acerimmer> Luka1: you're trying to move the panel itself, right?
[00:10] <Jordan_U> acerimmer: It's impossible to have more than 4 primary partitions with an msdos partition table, and grub2 supports GPT just fine.
[00:10] <cheekee> Jordan_U:  sorry that is an old bootinfo...since then I used superdisk to update Ubuntu10  and it wrestled back control of the boot up from Fedora 13, while installing ne kernel
[00:11] <mindriot> Hdale85, there might be a line in Xorg's log telling you which mode it's selected... not sure though since my systems typically have a manual setup
[00:11] <sebsebseb> Sm3gal: I think if you remove the  default  plymouth theme, in the root prompt, and only keep the  text boot theme,  that it might work to boot up without crashing on the boot up screen
[00:11] <cheekee>  a new*
[00:11] <luka1> acerimmer: yes. the top bar
[00:11] <Hdale85> mindriot, I didn't see anything. I'm looking on the forums trying to find the default xsession file
[00:11] <Sm3gal> i'm in term now
[00:11] <Jordan_U> cheekee: Ok, can you run the boot info script again to give the current situation?
[00:11] <acerimmer> luka1: so you right click on the top bar and...what?
[00:11] <Sm3gal> no graphical stuff
[00:12] <Sm3gal> just termanal
[00:12] <sebsebseb> Sm3gal: there are two themes by default
[00:13] <Hdale85> mindriot, I think you set it in the xorg.conf file
[00:13] <mindriot> Hdale85, well if replacing ~/.xsession by typing something like "echo 'xterm' > ~/.xsession' doesn't come up anything, and you don't even get a mouse cursor, it makes me think that whatever resolution has been picked can't be handled by the screen
[00:13] <gryllida> how do I remove envelope from indicator applet leaving only the volume regulator?
[00:13] <luka1> acerimmer: i right-click the top bar and the options i said above are grayed out and i can't use them
[00:13] <sebsebseb> gryllida: as far as I know you can't, because they are linked together :(
[00:13] <acerimmer> luka1: just install a new panel and populate it with the apps you wish.  Then delete the old panel.
[00:14] <acerimmer> gryllida: what seb said
[00:14] <luka1> acerimmer: ok. how do i install a new panel?
[00:14] <InnerFIRE_> is there a local channel for ubuntu seattle,wa
[00:14] <InnerFIRE_> hello>
[00:14] <InnerFIRE_> ?
[00:14] <acerimmer> luka1: right click on the panel>New panel
[00:14] <Hdale85> mindriot, actually I'd imagine it should be in GDM
[00:14] <ttl> Hi, I keep having a problem with my connection. I have a HSDPA dongle and now and then it drops out and I have to log out of ubuntu and log back in to get it to reconnect. Is there an easier way of doing this without having to log out? Thanks
[00:15] <acerimmer> InnerFIRE_: not specifically.  sometimes #gslug members are on line.  why (burien)
[00:15] <gryllida> acerimmer: seb? where?
[00:15] <luka1> acerimmer: there is no option new panel
[00:15] <h00k> InnerFIRE_: You may want to check out your LoCo
[00:15] <h00k> !loco | InnerFIRE_
[00:15] <gryllida> acerimmer: ah ok
[00:15] <mindriot> Hdale85, maybe you can put your xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log on pastebin?
[00:15] <acerimmer> luka1: sounds like your're panels are locked down.  Do you maybe have Ubuntu Tweak in your Applications>System Tools
[00:16] <sebsebseb> Sm3gal:  well ou should have logo and text installed at the moment
[00:16] <Hdale85> mindriot, I can do that
[00:16] <InnerFIRE_> someone just send me to the channel.. so its there
[00:16] <InnerFIRE_> i just forgot what it was
[00:16] <Hdale85> mindriot, where is the xorg.conf located again?
[00:16] <cheekee> Jordan_U I'm really sorry, but I don't know the instructions to run the bootinfo script in Fedora either as root or as user....I have tried for about 5 mins but nothing seems to work
[00:16] <Pici> InnerFIRE_: #ubuntu-us-wa
[00:16] <h00k> luka1: are you on the Netbook Edition?
[00:16] <InnerFIRE_> only 1 person there.. was more earlier
[00:16] <InnerFIRE_> ill ty
[00:17] <Jordan_U> cheekee: I thought you were booted into Ubuntu right now?
[00:17] <Hdale85> I have to SSH into the HTPC, I have no net on it currently lol
[00:17] <h00k> acerimmer, luka1: The panel is locked to the top on the Netbook Edition
[00:17] <FlameTai1> Um guys, does anyone know a fix for the bug where when you enable Compiz it makes your system alerts not work?
[00:17] <mindriot> Hdale85, /etc/X11
[00:17] <acerimmer> InnerFIRE_: more people will be at #ubuntu
[00:17] <luka1> h00k i see
[00:17] <Black_Phantom> hey guys what do u think abt xmonad is it really tht awesome
[00:17] <acerimmer> h00k: for the win!  I just learned something new.  Thanx
[00:17] <luka1> h00k so theres no way to move it down bottom screen?
[00:17] <h00k> acerimmer: No problem
[00:17] <cheekee> Jordan_U No I use the supergrubdisk to boot into Fedora
[00:17] <cheekee> used*
[00:18] <h00k> luka1: hang on, lemme look
[00:18] <luka1> k
[00:18] <h00k> luka1: it's what I'm using at the moment
[00:18] <InnerFIRE_> acerimmer.. nobody helps in #ubuntu. just ignore request. i have a computer sound issue. no sound
[00:18] <Hdale85> mindriot, ah crap...that's not going to work. I have my wireless on here connected to my iphone for net lol
[00:18] <Hdale85> mindriot, give me like 10 min, I'll get off the iphone and connect to my router
[00:18] <mindriot> ok
[00:18] <sebsebseb> Sm3gal: I guess if you do apt-get install plymouth-theme-ubuntu-logo   plymouth-theme-ubuntu-text  it will say both are installed
[00:19] <luka1> is there a way to show joins/parts/quits in another window not in the channel window - i'm using pidgin
[00:20] <Jordan_U> cheekee: Ok, to run the boot info script from fedora run: su -c "bash /path/to/bootinfoscript.sh"
[00:20] <VCoolio> luka1: there is a plugin to hide them, about other window I don't know
[00:20] <luka1> thanks
[00:20] <h00k> luka1: I've found: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UNR#Look%20&%20Feel
[00:21] <h00k> luka1: just be careful in gconf!
[00:21] <luka1> h00k :) thanks
[00:21] <FlameTai1> Um guys, does anyone know a fix for the bug where when you enable Compiz it makes your system alerts not work?
[00:21] <|corpse|> has anyone gotten windows media codec 9 to work?
[00:21] <sebsebseb> Sm3gal: ok fine in reply to the pm, just re install the OS then,  if apparantly can't apt-get like that, since a wireless password
[00:22] <acerimmer> InnerFIRE_: doesn't mean they're ignoring.  All volunteers here and maybe no one had the answer.  But with 1500 online, at some point, someone probably will know.  Hang around.  RE-ask every 10 minutes or so
[00:22] <luka1> acerimmer: thanks
[00:22] <acerimmer> luka1: fixed?
[00:22] <luka1> acerimmer: not yet but i've got reading to do :)
[00:22] <dsnyders> Hi all!  Is it possible to convert a partition into a virtual machine disk file?
[00:22] <sebsebseb> dsnyders: some how yeah
[00:23] <sebsebseb> dsnyders:  well for Virtualbox some how not sure how maybe can find that one out in #vbox  for  VMware well theres VMware convert which can convert a pshyical Windows install into a virtual machine, but last time I tried it
[00:23] <sebsebseb> dsnyders: it was the size of the partition :(
[00:24] <sebsebseb> dsnyders: VMware converter above
[00:24] <dsnyders> sebsebseb, Thanks for the pointers.  I suppose I could do a partition resize before attempting a conversion.
[00:24] <MKM> dsnyders_:yes...!
[00:24] <Hdale85> ok that didn't work lol
[00:24] <MKM> dsnyders:yes...!
[00:25] <Hdale85> forgot.....network-manager hates WPA
[00:26] <robin0800> Hdale85: works ok here
[00:26] <dsnyders> !virtual
[00:26] <cheekee>                 Boot Info Script 0.55    dated February 15th, 2010
[00:26] <cheekee> [00:26] <cheekee>  => Grub 2 is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda and looks on the same drive in
[00:26] <cheekee>     partition #5 for /boot/grub.
[00:26] <h00k> !pastebin | cheekee
[00:26] <FloodBot2> cheekee: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:26] <cheekee>  => Windows is installed in the MBR of /dev/sdb
[00:26] <cheekee>  => Windows is installed in the MBR of /dev/sdc
[00:26] <sebsebseb> dsnyders: and then if its XP, you can like set up a hardware profile first, and I guess other versons of Windows.  and then you got  a hardware profile for the pshyical install with its drivers and such,  and  then another for  the virtual machine once your running it as a vm.  I read some webpages and tried  VMware converter about a year or two ago or something.   Why not just do a clean install though of Windows, which is what I assume your
[00:26] <sebsebseb> wanting to vm.
[00:27] <wangjinfeng> 睡在这里
[00:27] <nikolam> one quick question. If youHm, does updating from ext3 to ext4 can give full set of new ext4 features after turning them on?
[00:27] <wangjinfeng> 会说中文的出来几个
[00:27] <dsnyders> sebsebseb, I have some software on the windows partition that I would like to keep, but for which I no longer have the installation media.
[00:27] <h00k> !cn | wangjinfeng
[00:27] <nikolam> And if not turned on, is ext4 slower without them?
[00:27] <sebsebseb> dsnyders: oh right ok
[00:28] <sebsebseb> dsnyders: there is even a way to boot up a pshyicall install of Windows in virtual machine software, but I do not know the details
[00:28] <dsnyders> sebsebseb, If it were not for that, I'd wipe and reinstall in a heartbeat.
[00:30] <Loshki> nikolam: I don't know the answer, but take a look at https://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto#Converting_an_ext3_filesystem_to_ext4 and maybe you can come back and tell me...
[00:32] <sebsebseb> nikolam: I woudn't bother converting Ext3 to Ext4 if I was you,  1.  you  won't get the proper thing.  2.  maybe 10.10, but if not 11.04 I expect,  and there will be stable btfs support :)
[00:32] <linu-> guys..
[00:32] <linu-> how do I create a regular port 21 ftp account to a directory on my ubuntu web server?
[00:33] <dsnyders> !ftp
[00:33] <sebsebseb> nikolam: disk checking will be faster the auotmatic  boot up disk checking with Ext4 after so many boots, but other then that,  you probably woudn't notice much difference, when it comes to  Ubuntu 9.10 or 10.04
[00:33] <dsnyders> !ftpd
[00:34] <Loshki> nikolam: actually. I agree with sebsebseb. Not worth the bother of converting, the difference will probably be unnoticeable...
[00:34] <sebsebseb> nikolam: yeah exactly not really worth the hassle
[00:34] <kasansweat> Hey folks--trying to make a bootable writeable USB flash drive, but the tool has the "reserved space" bit greyed out. It's a 4gb drive, any ideas on how to fix this?
[00:35] <FlameTai1> Um guys, does anyone know a fix for the bug where when you enable Compiz it makes your system alerts not work?
[00:36] <linu-> please.
[00:36] <linu-> dsnyders: did u understand my problem
[00:37] <profxavier> anyone have Ubuntu running in VMware, with a Windows host OS, and -is- able to copy and paste between Ubuntu and Windows [as VMware Tools is installed] ?
[00:37] <ToeKutter> i havent been able to copy/paste
[00:37] <dsnyders> linu-, I thought I did, but then a question came to mind.  Do you want an ftp server, or do you want your web server to show the contents of the directory as a web page?
[00:38] <profxavier> ToeKutter have you attempted to repair it, at any point ?
[00:38] <ToeKutter> nope
[00:38] <profxavier> its a bit frustrating, as it seems like something that should simply work, out of the box
[00:38] <ToeKutter> could try vmtools again
[00:38] <linu-> all I want is to be able to connect to my web server on port 21, right now it only works on port 22
[00:38] <profxavier> its related to vmware tools, thats for sure
[00:38] <FyreFoX> what is a good text to speech application?
[00:39] <dsnyders> linu-, what are you connecting with?
[00:39] <profxavier> i even changed versions of VMware, to see if thats an issue, with the same results
[00:39] <sebsebseb> profxavier: if you do Windows inside a Linux distro, you get a bit of a security advantage even :)  since you know vms are just treated like normal data files yeah?  So if you get a virus or whatever in Windows vm,  just   easily delete it, or  easily use a clean copy.  Most people that come here that do vm's use Virtualbox it seems.  and #vmware is probably a good channel for your issue
[00:39] <profxavier> i wonder if it has to do with 64bit Ubuntu?
[00:39] <linu-> I want to connect with wordpress and wp only allows port 21
[00:39] <profxavier> sebsebseb I don't get viruses :D
[00:39] <Callum__> Oh my god, did I just get the nvidia proprietary driver working on my GeForce4 420 Go laptop
[00:40] <ToeKutter> i run 32bit, still a no go
[00:40] <Jordan_U> cheekee: Can you use pastebin to give a link to the boot info script output? (do *not* paste it into the channel)
[00:40]  * Callum__ ^_^
[00:40] <fr0stbyte> grats Callum__
[00:40] <profxavier> last time I tried vibox, it crashed, when running on Windows
[00:40] <Daekdroom> Is there any subversion gui from which I can directly compile and update source code from the svn?
[00:40] <Callum__> about time
[00:40] <sebsebseb> profxavier: very easy to get malware in an Internet connected Windows install,  however this is starting to go a bit offtopic
[00:40] <Hdale85> anyone know how to manually change the xsession that GDM loads via the console?
[00:40] <Callum__> resolution sure is broken though lol
[00:40] <profxavier> sebsebseb I have been installing Windows as long as you have been born :D
[00:41] <Callum__> there goes my last reason for keeping Windows on this machine
[00:41] <Jordan_U> profxavier: They really need to optimize that install time, don't they ;)
[00:41] <webBuilder> hello guys what is my mistake on this bash file that I am creating
[00:41] <webBuilder> MYVAR= "./cvs2svn/cvs2svn --trunk="$line"/trunk --branches="$line"/branches --tags="$line"/tags"
[00:41] <webBuilder> echo $MYVAR
[00:41] <Eneerge> install time?
[00:41] <trism> webBuilder: remove the space after MYVAR=
[00:42] <tripelb> FYI chrome flasblock incapacitates hulu
[00:42] <webBuilder> trism, Thank you
[00:42] <sebsebseb> profxavier: no since as far as I know Windows hadn't even been made yet, when I was born.  and this is called off topic
[00:42] <Riviera> webBuilder: the quoting, the space after the =, the all-uppercase shell variable, the mistake of putting options into a string
[00:42] <trism> webBuilder: and you might want to replace the outer quotes with '
[00:42] <dsnyders> linu-, wordpress is a CMS
[00:42] <Riviera> webBuilder: use an array instead
[00:42] <profxavier> sebsebseb then why comment, if you say, its off topic ?
[00:42] <linu-> yes so?
[00:42] <kr3w> is mssql possible to install under ubuntu
[00:43] <acerimmer> !mysql|kr3w
[00:43] <sebsebseb> kr3w: hrm
[00:43] <sebsebseb> kr3w: maybe in Wine
[00:43] <dsnyders> linu-, what are you using for a server, and what are you using for a client?
[00:43] <sebsebseb> kr3w: however in a Windows virtual machine sure
[00:43] <sebsebseb> kr3w: why do you want the Microsoft version though?
[00:43] <kr3w> acerimmer: i said mssql not mysql, i know about mysql already
[00:43] <acerimmer> :~
[00:44] <webBuilder> trism, Riviera , my goal is that variable called MYVAR will be executed later do you guys think I can do it
[00:44] <kr3w> sebsebseb: because i have applications that only work under mssql
[00:44] <sebsebseb> kr3w: oh :(
[00:44] <webBuilder> trism, Riviera , right now as a string is printing the command that I would like to execute
[00:44] <trism> webBuilder: oh wait, nm, didn't notice the variable expansion, nm
[00:44] <kr3w> unfortunately, there isn't a linux solution for EVERYTHING, regardless of how much i'd like that
[00:44] <ojiiooji> fuck ubuntu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[00:44] <ojiiooji> fuck ubuntu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[00:44] <FloodBot2> ojiiooji: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:45] <stevecoh1> One thing I can say good about the 10.04 upgrade: it seems so far to have fixed the absolutely miserable performance of firefox 3.5+ on 9.10.  Usually I found I had to kill processes in order to get the damned thing to shut down.  Looks like they may have gotten this right this time.
[00:45] <dsnyders> Thanks, h00k
[00:45] <sebsebseb> kr3w: I don't know much about SQL, but if you made them yourself, I guess woudnt' take that much to convert them to MySQL
[00:45] <cheekee> Jordan_U: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/MXpczFdZ
[00:45] <webBuilder> how can I can execute a variable that holds command in bash? thank you in advance
[00:46] <Riviera> webBuilder: yes, you will not see the problems as long as you don't have whitespace or characters special to pathname expansion in $line
[00:46] <codebrainz> webBuilder, just execute it
[00:46] <webBuilder> Riviera, now I'll like to execute my variable called MYVAR what shell I do
[00:46] <ljkljl> fuck ubuntu!
[00:46] <ljkljl> fuck ubuntu!
[00:46] <FloodBot2> ljkljl: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:46] <acerimmer> Jordan_U: obviously over my head, but wouldn't running grub A
[00:46] <Riviera> webBuilder: you should not tdo this at all
[00:46] <mindriot> webBuilder, e.g. like this:
[00:46] <acerimmer> and grub2 cause conflicts
[00:46] <mindriot> MYVAR=/usr/bin/xterm
[00:47] <mindriot> $MYVAR
[00:47] <webBuilder> how it is in shall script
[00:47] <Riviera> webBuilder: using an array would work in many cases, still being a hack
[00:47] <Riviera> webBuilder: use a function instead
[00:47] <nikolam> sebner, Loshki http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_netbook_fs&num=2
[00:47] <Riviera> webBuilder: yes, in bash.
[00:47] <Loshki> nikolam: excellent...
[00:48] <jon_> can someone tell me how to recover my password in ubuntu 10,04?
[00:48] <sebsebseb> jon_: sure
[00:48] <Zelozelos> occasionally when i shut down my sys and later restart my panel layout gets all moved around (the seperaters, workspace switcher, and some various icons which are locked btw) any ideas why/how to prevent?
[00:48] <Jordan_U> cheekee: Remove the echo, cat << EOF, etc from /etc/grub.d/40_custom. That's already dealt with with the tail command at the top of the file
[00:48] <sebsebseb> jon_: so at the moment you can't log in, since not sure the password?
[00:48] <jon_> sebsebseb: right
[00:48] <sebsebseb> jon_: ok  got Grub showing the kernels and such?
[00:48] <jon_> sebsebseb: yes
[00:48] <Jordan_U> cheekee: Whatever you put in /etc/grub.d/40_custom will be added verbatum into your grub.cfg
[00:49] <doormat81> Can anyone recommend a good book for beginning programming in Linux (with the goal of creating GUI apps)?
[00:49] <codebrainz> doormat81, what language?
[00:49] <cheekee> ok remove the echo
[00:49] <acerimmer> doormat81: check appress.com
[00:49] <jon_> sebsebseb: how can i recover my passqword?
[00:49] <linu-> server is apache, client should not matter right? I just want to be able to connect on port 21 regular ftp
[00:50] <progesterone> Question: I had guest addition previously installed on previous XP installation on Virtual Box. I reinstall XP and when I reinstall Guest Addition, it says 'Unable to mount the CD/DVD image /usr/share/virtualbox/VBoxGuestAdditions.iso onthe machine Window XP'. How can I do that?
[00:50] <jon_> sebsebseb: password i mean
[00:50] <sebsebseb> jon_: ok go to the recovery mode, get the root prompt,  do passwd username,and put in a new password, and I would do letters and numbers and at least and 8 characters long, so that it is reasoanbly secure
[00:50] <doormat81> codebrainz, I'm guessing that Python would be easiest and most useful to learn.
[00:50] <kr3w> how do i mark the setup.exe in a mounted CD to be executable
[00:50] <jon_> sebsebseb: Ok i'll do that
[00:50] <sebsebseb> jon_: longer the better I guess, and with stuff like $ %   £   ^  ,but then harder to remember and such
[00:50] <dsnyders> linu-, I don't know if apache can act as an ftp server.
[00:50] <codebrainz> doormat81, i would like to learn C first if i could do it again, but most people would agree with python
[00:51] <linu-> ok, nevermind then
[00:51] <codebrainz> doormat81, the O'Reilly Learning Python and Programming Python books by MArk Lutz are good
[00:51] <sebsebseb> jon__: username being your account username, maybe that wasn't clear enough
[00:51] <dsnyders> linu-, you might try asking at #apache
[00:51] <sebsebseb> jon_
[00:51] <Zelozelos> does anyone else have the same issue with the panel items moving themselves around?
[00:51] <|corpse|> When trying to watch some newer movies off of my fileserver i get an error saying it can not play windows media 9 audio. i have tryed running the videos in VLC player and movie player all with the same error. Is there any way to get win media 9 audio working? or should i convert the wmv to a diferent format>
[00:51] <doormat81> codebrainz, and they focus on GUI apps as well?  I don't have much desire to create CL programs.
[00:51] <kr3w> anyone?
[00:52] <kr3w> marking setup file in a mounted CD as executable?
[00:52] <SpazStatic> OK, so, I can't set my monitor to anything higher than 640x480, which is lower than the minimum resolution it can be set to on another computer. Can someone help me out? And if you're going to link to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution walk me though it cause it hasn't helped me any so far.
[00:52] <codebrainz> doormat81, not soo much, a little Tkinter, but there's tons and tons of gold info on the web about gtk and qt and wx and all the other ui stuff
[00:52] <Zelozelos> |corpse|, it should be only a matter of the correct codec
[00:52] <FlameTai1> Um guys, does anyone know a fix for the bug where when you enable Compiz it makes your system alerts not work?
[00:52] <nikolam> so, ext4 is good for transactions and generally faster then ext3 everywhere, but SqLite test. btrfs is great for many users and random writes scenario. Loshki , sebsebseb
[00:52] <dsnyders> linu-, google shows there is an apache module for providing ftp protocol support.
[00:52] <holocene> isn't there a vb like program out there for linux that would do gui apps? (Don't kill me for bring up vb)
[00:53] <linu-> oh nice, ill ask in httpd
[00:53] <codebrainz> holocene, yep, don't remember the name off the top of my head though
[00:53] <coz_> hey guys... I have a fellow in #compiz complaining that alert sounds are turned off when enabling compiz... had anyone heard of this bug ??
[00:53] <linu-> thanks!
[00:53] <Loshki> nikolam: I also took a quick look. Ext4 specs are superior, no surprise there. But the question remains whether you would actually *notice* the change. If you _do_ decide to upgrade, I think many people would be interested in your before and after numbers. NOTE: to continue this discussion, let's move it to #ubuntu-offtopic...
[00:53] <doormat81> codebrainz, I guess what I'm trying to understand is this: python is the language, but in order to do anything useful from a GUI standpoint, I'd need to learn another system, either gtk, qt, etc?
[00:53] <sebsebseb> nikolam: btfs is not stable yet
[00:53] <Jordan_U> kr3w: Not currently possible AFAIK. "wine /path/to/foo.exe" should work though.
[00:53] <webBuilder> Riviera, I have posted my small call on pestbin site if there any one who wants to look at it and make changes in order to execute my command that convert from cvs to svn will be really cool
[00:53] <codebrainz> holocene, gambas or mono (vb6 or vb.NET)
[00:53] <webBuilder> thank you
[00:53] <sebsebseb> nikolam: it will become the default file system in Ubuntu maybe in 10.10, but probably 11.04 if not
[00:53] <Zelozelos> holocene there is a program that will tie into pyton, i cant remember the name, but you write the program, then layout the gui portion in that prog (which is gui itself)
[00:53] <webBuilder> here is the file
[00:53] <webBuilder> http://pastebin.com/gKC47jhg
[00:53] <FloodBot2> webBuilder: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:53] <|corpse|> Zelozelos:  i have googled for quite a wile and i can not find a working fix. i have downloaded all of the codecs that i can from the repository and installed the codec via winetricks but still no luck
[00:53] <Arsin> How do I install a .run file?
[00:53] <webBuilder> FloodBot1, forgive me
[00:53] <nikolam> sebsebseb, yup, btrfs is not production ready
[00:53] <Daekdroom> !panel
[00:54] <sebsebseb> nikolam: and its meant to be pretty good when ready as well, much better than Ext4 and so on
[00:54] <Daekdroom> !panels
[00:54] <holocene> zelozelos: so event driven, huh?
[00:54] <Arsin> or Catalyst 10.5 for that matter.
[00:54] <codebrainz> doormat81, python is the language, the UI toolkit is a library/API you program against to get the GUI
[00:54] <Zelozelos> |corpse|, r u playing the wmv using a wine app? if so thats prob the source of the issue
[00:54] <Zelozelos> yup
[00:54] <sebsebseb> nikolam: Ext4 is good for transactions?
[00:54] <Zelozelos> holocene, yup
[00:54] <codebrainz> holocene, , Zelozelos, Glade?
[00:55] <|corpse|> Zelozelos: no, not using any wine
[00:55] <doormat81> codebrainz, got it.  And python works with qt4 designer and Glade?
[00:55] <Zelozelos> codebrainz, umm, yup i think thats it, glade ;)
[00:55] <n8w> hey
[00:55] <sebsebseb> nikolam: SqLite?  you meant Sqlite?  thats a database
[00:55] <codebrainz> doormat81, yep, you load the glade file in your python script and use the widgets
[00:55] <tsimpson> kr3w: you'll need to mount the CD manually with "mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom -t iso9660 -o mode=0555", if you are using wine you can just do something like: wine 'D:\setup.exe'
[00:55] <kr3w> aww okay
[00:55] <nikolam> sebsebseb, i compared current state of it to zfs and.. not there yet.. for some years. Someone told soem days ago, there is Zfs kernel module project for Linux kernel (there is also zfs-fuse that works)
[00:55] <kr3w> thanks
[00:55] <doormat81> codebrainz, okay, thank you.  I'm afraid I've been pampered by VisualBasic and have a lot to learn about REAL programming :)
[00:56] <sebsebseb> nikolam: yes BTFS is meant to be instead of ZFS
[00:56] <nikolam> sebner, yes, look at those charts. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_netbook_fs&num=1
[00:56] <codebrainz> doormat81, not sure python is "real" programming, but it's super slick and easy, and a hell of a lot cleaner than VB :)
[00:56] <Marsh4ll> Hello, what is the latest version of Ubuntu that uses the ieee80211 wireless drivers?
[00:56] <Zelozelos> |corpse|, the only thing i can think of is uninstall all the codecs, and try n play the wmv w the movie player, it should say "heay you need this codec" n get it for u
[00:56] <Jordan_U> sebsebseb: As awesome as it would be, I see almost no chance of btrfs by default in 10.10, and I don't have high hopes for even 11.04 :(
[00:56] <n8w> do u guys know what kind of problem this errror might b pointin at?: suspending console(s) (use no_console_suspend to debug)
[00:56] <SpazStatic> I'd really rather not waste everyone's time by posting my question repeatedly to thepoint that nobody reads what I say.
[00:56] <n8w> im gettin it while tryin to hibernate with s2disk
[00:56] <holocene> codebrainz and doormat81: noob here but to me cli and shell essential skills.
[00:56] <cris> hi
[00:57] <|corpse|> Zelozelos: it does that now, but it can not find a package for it in the rep
[00:57] <cyborgsmurf> How do I create a installfile in ubuntu like bin.tar.bz2?
[00:57] <doormat81> codebrainz, are there certain things that Python just can't do?  I have a very specific, rather extensive application I'm planning on developing eventually.
[00:57] <cris> no
[00:57] <sebsebseb> Jordan_U: well the file system guy, put the message out about maybe in 10.10.  Not in 11.04 either?   Ok to be honest I don't know that much about that file system yet.   I guess its got quite a while to go yet though, before most distros are using it as the default instead of Ext4.  A year or so?
[00:57] <Zelozelos> |corpse|, then that would prob mean that there is no win 9 support in ubuntu, somehow that wouldnt supprise me, since it is from u know who
[00:58] <|corpse|> Zelozelos: yeah, i just figured somone would have it working by now
[00:58] <Daekdroom> |corpse|, try w32codecs package
[00:58] <codebrainz> doormat81, except for tight-timing, or extreme execution speed, python is pretty cabable.  describe your idea and i'll tell you if python can do it best.
[00:58] <FrozenInferno> maybe a stupid question, but is there a program for *nix that can handle an iPhone/iPod Touch like iTunes?
[00:58] <DasEi> cyborgsmurf: these are diffrent packaging-formats, a installfile would be a deb-file (for ubuntu)
[00:58] <holocene> python is not typed, right?
[00:58] <Loshki> SpazStatic: it's considered good form (in this channel) to repeat a question about once every 15 minutes until you get a solution (or give up)....
[00:59] <DasEi> cyborgsmurf: man tar (enter this in terminal)
[00:59] <codebrainz> holocene, it's dynamically typed i guess is the term, it has typing
[00:59] <|corpse|> Daekdroom: i have but i cannot seem to find the file. I read that it is sudo apt-get w32codecs but i get Unable to find package
[00:59] <cyborgsmurf> DasEi : so unless there isn't a deb-file no use in trying?
[00:59] <SpazStatic> Loshki: Yeah, I know. You don't happen to remember me from a month or so ago with the major sound issues?
[00:59] <holocene> codebrainz: then C is not dynamically typed?
[00:59] <doormat81> codebrainz, can't get too detailed with the idea, but I need to integrate a large database, output parts of the program to an external display (tv), and include a audio/video player (also able to output to a tv).
[00:59] <Jordan_U> sebsebseb: It's mostly https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Gotchas  that has me doubting it will be ready for 10.10. I just remembered that meego is already using it by default though, so maybe 11.04 is more likely than I first thought.
[01:00] <SpazStatic> Loshki: name was probably Spaztic_One if not this
[01:00] <Daekdroom> !medibuntu > |corpse|
[01:00] <codebrainz> holocene, C is most definitively not.
[01:00] <Riviera> webBuilder: http://pastebin.com/x8X3vDi7
[01:00] <Loshki> SpazStatic: my memory isn't best :-). Did we solve it?
[01:00] <DasEi> cyborgsmurf: you can install software in diffrent ways, deb is most commmon, or you compile it from source (advanced), from a tarball, see:
[01:00] <codebrainz> doormat81, python + gtk + gstreamer (For video output, a/v player)... you're all set
[01:00] <DasEi> !compile
[01:00] <|corpse|> Daekdroom: ty
[01:00] <doormat81> codebrainz, excellent.  Thank you
[01:01] <holocene> codebrainz: is python a better overall choice than Ruby?
[01:01] <SpazStatic> Loshki: no, not really. But we unbroke it from when we did try and fix it and it all went to crap... and I think it was a little better as well. =)
[01:01] <cyborgsmurf> DasEi : so I need to make like setup-file myself?
[01:01] <codebrainz> holocene, i like to think so, but i don't/haven't used ruby
[01:01] <Marsh4ll> what is the latest version of Ubuntu that uses the ieee stack drivers?
[01:01] <dark1> hello, im try to make a shell script to backup db, and $DBPATH is a variable, so how can i run it,  pg_dump -U waterfind $DBNAME | gzip -c > $DBPATH gives me an error.
[01:01] <codebrainz> holocene, i'd say python's syntax is cleaner, but beyond that i can't comment
[01:02] <FrozenInferno> maybe a stupid question, but is there a program for *nix that can handle an iPhone/iPod Touch like iTunes?
[01:02] <holocene> codebrainz: clean syntax means a lot!
[01:02] <sebsebseb> Jordan_U: I guess we gone a bit off topic, but heres the message about  maybe having it in 10.10 by default, from Ubuntu file system guy. http://www.netsplit.com/2010/05/14/btrfs-by-default-in-maverick/
[01:02] <DasEi> cyborgsmurf: I'm no geek ath this, you can either do a install-script, create a tarball or a deb-file, like in help of debbuilde
[01:02] <DasEi> r*
[01:02] <dsnyders> codebrainz, I've been considering getting back into doing a little programming myself, and python has been recommended to me as well.   How easy is it to create a window and do some graphics (eg line (x1,y1, x2,y2,color) or plot (x,y,color))?
[01:02] <cyborgsmurf> codebrainz : thanks
[01:02] <Riviera> dsnyders: very
[01:03] <Loshki> SpazStatic: sound really is still a problem in most linuxes unfortunately...
[01:03] <Zelozelos> dark1 just a guess but try  pg_dump -U waterfind $DBNAME && gzip -c > $DBPATH
[01:03] <codebrainz> dsnyders, it's relative, but easy I'd say.  what lang(s) do you know
[01:03] <stairmast0r> i accidentally deleted the "internet" menu on my gnome launcher...wat do?
[01:03] <SpazStatic> Loshki: Yeah, I know. It's not bugging me that much currently.
[01:03] <cyborgsmurf> DasEi : I was a windowz-user for like 16 years... but linux is more fun :)
[01:04] <DasEi> cyborgsmurf: what do you want to set up ?
[01:04] <Marsh4ll> how long u been using linux for cyborg?
[01:04] <Riviera> dsnyders: for animation-like things look into pygame, for basic image manipulation into PIL, for GUI things into bindings for your favourite toolkit
[01:04] <quaa> anyone got any quick links to recover a 2 disk raid 0 set?  they were part of an external disk set - WDG2T10000N
[01:04] <sebsebseb> stairmast0r: whilst editing the menus yourself or?
[01:04] <quaa> the enclosure died and the hdds are still fine via smartctl
[01:04] <dsnyders> codebrainz, I took c, fortran, pascal, cobol, etch back in my university days.  I learned basic on my own.  However, this was back in the days when basic had line numbers.
[01:05] <dsnyders> Riviera, Could you point me to a tutorial?
[01:05] <dark1> Zelozelos. not good, it prnting the db to screen
[01:05] <Loshki> dark1: have you tried typing that stuff into the shell first before running it from a script?
[01:05] <cyborgsmurf> DasEi : its a mod from Glest (a 3D strategic-game for linux)
[01:05] <dark1> thats what i did
[01:06] <codebrainz> dsnyders,  shouldn't be much trouble then.  Check out PyGTK + Cairo + PyGame(SDL) on google.  all well documented
[01:06] <Zelozelos> dark1, heh, maybe its a piece of the puzzle idk, it was just a guess i only knew that you could join commands w && the | dont work
[01:06] <Riviera> dsnyders: I guess everything I know is very dated, google would seriously reveal better results
[01:06] <dsnyders> codebrainz, I'd be more or less starting from scratch.
[01:06] <dark1> any other ideas :P
[01:06] <Benkinooby> hi there, does some1 know a lightweight musicplayer with good music libary management? i really like amarok, but it's too heavy...
[01:06] <codebrainz> dsnyders, well if you remember the basic constructs of program, you've skipped a good month of learning :)
[01:06] <Loshki> dark1: according to my man page, if you want gzip to act as a filter, you have to use the '-' filename...
[01:06] <DasEi> cyborgsmurf: so steps will be to compile it from source succesful first and then make a deb from it, which automates the dependency-check and the install-routine
[01:07] <abadr> What's the right way to get postgresql running from a different cluster location?
[01:07] <dark1> so i cant define it as variable :(
[01:07] <buppa_> Anyone knows a goood way to reduce the CPU usage? Firefox is always consuming 25% in Ubuntu, in Windows XP its only consuming 1%.
[01:07] <codebrainz> buppa_, stop using flash :)
[01:07] <Zelozelos> Benkinooby, well, rythmbox is good  dats what i use
[01:07] <cyborgsmurf> DasEi: it seems Im the non-geek ;)
[01:07] <buppa_> codebrainz, i dont ..
[01:08] <buppa_> codebrainz, flash is uninstalled
[01:08] <FrozenInferno> maybe a stupid question, but is there a program for *nix that can handle an iPhone/iPod Touch like iTunes?
[01:08] <kr3w> buppa_: check the cache size
[01:08] <buppa_> kr3w, how?
[01:08] <codebrainz> buppa_, does it really matter?  is anything else using the CPU?
[01:08] <Loshki> dark1: um, try this: pg_dump -U waterfind $DBNAME | gzip -c - > $DBPATH
[01:08] <stairmast0r> sebsebseb: yea..i was going too fast and accidentally hit delete on it
[01:08] <kr3w> buppa_: its somewhere in the options, i don't have ff on ubuntu but i know there is something somewhere
[01:08] <dark1> Loshki : okie
[01:08] <Loshki> dark1: note the added '-' argument....
[01:08] <sebsebseb> stairmast0r: ok I think this will add it back,  or I guess you can yourself in the menu editor
[01:08] <sebsebseb> !panels | stairmast0r
[01:09] <buppa_> kr3w, i have browser.cache.disk.enable set to false
[01:09] <abadr> FrozenInferno: tried googling?
[01:09] <kr3w> buppa_: try edit > preferences then look for something related.
[01:09] <DasEi> cyborgsmurf: as said, I'm pressed by some other stuff in recent times, but for a startup do a compile froma known good app, then try to do the same for that game , then look into tools for building debs
[01:09] <Loshki> SpazStatic: welcome back anyway. Got a ubuntu question for us?
[01:09] <kr3w> buppa_: try going to a really simple website then see what happens to CPU usage compared to another site
[01:09] <Riviera> dsnyders: no worries, playing around with python shouldn't be wasted time (even considering the large amount of other decent programming languages), a good starting point might be http://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide but #python surely knows best :)
[01:09] <stairmast0r> ubottu: are you a bot or a human..?
[01:09] <stairmast0r> ubottu: YOURE A DUMB ASS MOTHERFUCKER
[01:09] <stairmast0r> :3
[01:09] <stairmast0r> pardon my language
[01:10] <FloodBot2> stairmast0r: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:10] <cyborgsmurf> DasEi: Im going to check this website out... (I wont be reading for a while, so pls dont type anything important)
[01:10] <DasEi> !brain | stairmast0r
[01:10] <Callum__> WHOO, fixed the resolution, I never thought I would get this to work properly
[01:10] <DasEi> cyborgsmurf: fine
[01:10] <Callum__> only problem is, where the hell are the GNOME panels
[01:10] <FrozenInferno> abadr: yeah, i found some stuff, it was just a few pages past where i stopped.
[01:10] <IdleOne> !language | stairmast0r
[01:10] <stairmast0r> sebsebseb: i don't want to reset them to the default, because then i'll lose my later added launchers, wouldn't i?
[01:10] <cyborgsmurf> DasEi: you are too far away in knowledge... I dont udnerstand it all
[01:10] <Benkinooby> Zelozelos: thx
[01:10] <cyborgsmurf> bbl
[01:10] <abadr> FrozenInferno: it looks like Banshee is what you want
[01:10] <Loshki> stairmast0r: such language isn't used on this channel, even if you say 'pardon my language' afterwards...
[01:10] <sebsebseb> stairmast0r: yeah
[01:11] <dsnyders> Riviera, codebrainz, true enough.  function calls, basic loop structures, conditional statements are all going to be familiar.  It's the syntax and the command vocabulary that will be the main struggles.  That and windowing.  Back when I last did programming, it was on an Atari 600XL.
[01:11] <dark1> Loshki : $DBPATH: ambiguous redirect :(
[01:11] <Callum__> okay, my GNOME panels are gone and I have no idea how to get them back.
[01:11] <kr3w> how do i restore the wine application after deleting it from menu
[01:11] <stairmast0r> sebsebseb: that's the problem..i need my other launchers back as well
[01:11] <dsnyders> Riviera, Thanks for the link and the channel reference.
[01:11] <Loshki> dark1: what does echo $DBPATH say?
[01:11] <sebsebseb> stairmast0r: system > preferences > main menu
[01:11] <kr3w> re-installing the application doesn't bring it back for sure
[01:12] <sebsebseb> stairmast0r: or maybe a little different on Ubuntu,  using another distro at the moment :)
[01:12] <FrozenInferno> abadr: ok, i'll give it a shot. i also saw gtkpod, rhythmbox, and amarok as viable options. i'll play around and see what i can do. thanks
[01:12] <stairmast0r> sebsebseb: i know, i was in there when i deleted it
[01:12] <codebrainz> Callum__, Alt+F2 then type 'gnome-panel'
[01:12] <sebsebseb> stairmast0r: and thats how you can add it back
[01:12] <Riviera> dsnyders: have fun & good luck :)
[01:12] <stairmast0r> sebsebseb: except i don't remember what all was on there before :/
[01:13] <dark1> Loshki : /home/WF/yalo/dbbackup/backup.wf-dev2.10.06.08- 9.42.gz
[01:13] <stairmast0r> sebsebseb: is there a way to back it up before i reset it?
[01:13] <aurilliance> I'm on UNE and need to flash my bios - how can I do this with a USB???
 Callum__, Alt+F2 then type 'gnome-panel' - yeah, that worked, but will it stay? let's see...
[01:13] <stairmast0r> sebsebseb: then i could copy what was on the reset one to the good one
[01:13] <Loshki> dark1: is that even a legal filename? there's a unescaped space in it....
[01:13] <sebsebseb> stairmast0r: also I didn't know bots could cry untill you offended ubottu a little while ago.   anyway uhmm  easy to add stuff back with menu editor,  and  you don't need most of the stuff on the menus really
[01:14] <Callum__> after log-out it disappears...
[01:14] <dark1> uh oh let me try again
[01:14] <stairmast0r> sebsebseb: could i get them back by reinstalling the software that was on it?
[01:14] <stairmast0r> sebsebseb: and will reinstalling firefox get rid of my addons?
[01:14] <Callum__> I have to killall gnome-panel to get it to show...
[01:14] <sebsebseb> stairmast0r: no it won't, since thats stored in the hidden .mozilla folder in Home
[01:14] <Callum__> every time it logs in
[01:14] <sebsebseb> stairmast0r: so yeah re installing the apps is one way
[01:15] <codebrainz> Callum__, i don't use gnome, but i think it has a gui to set startup programs, you could put it in there.
[01:15] <sebsebseb> stairmast0r: or I guess re install Firefox and it will put Internet menu back
[01:15] <stairmast0r> sebsebseb: i think i'll go with that.  do you have a mostly stock menu that you could list the apps from?
[01:15] <sebsebseb> stairmast0r: you can see what you have installed in the software centre even
[01:17] <quaa> yeah, anyone know how to mount a raid0 set from just the two hdds of a dead external enclosure?
[01:17] <jon_> can someone tell me how to change my username in ubuntu?
[01:17] <codebrainz> Callum__, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/542343
[01:17] <dark1> Loshki : thanks , its a path issue :(
[01:18] <stairmast0r> sebsebseb: reinstalling didn't help...
[01:18] <Loshki> dark1: yeah, figures :-)
[01:18] <sebsebseb> stairmast0r: Running another distro at the moment :)  which is also running Gnome, so the menus are quite similar, but not quite.   I don't feel like loading up Ubuntu in a virtual machine to tell you what kind of stuff you should have in the menus, but there are plenty of other people  here, who could tell you what should be in the menus.
[01:18] <dark1> im using TODAY=$(date +"%y.%m.%d-%k.%M") to get the time stamp on path, thats where the space come from, anyway to take it out
[01:18] <sebsebseb> stairmast0r: altough your installed,   well I guess what software says is isntalled, you should also be able to access from menus
[01:18] <Loshki> jon_: I see lots of hits on google. Try this one for starters: http://www.ehow.com/how_5924282_change-user-name-ubuntu.html
[01:19] <dark1> may be 24h time ?
[01:19] <aurilliance> I have just plugged a flash drive in, and am trying to unmount it using "sudo unmount /dev/sdXXX" How can I tell what letter I need to replace XXX with?
[01:19] <DasEi> qaa:you got to mount them, then use mdadm, though if hd' s are fine, just connecting them should do it (fstab)
[01:19] <aurilliance> the author of a post I'm following says to use fdisk -l, but it doesn't show anything
[01:19] <sebsebseb> stairmast0r: what software centre says you have installed,  should be in the menus as well I guess
[01:20] <codebrainz> aurilliance, type 'mount'
[01:20] <DasEi> aurilliance: sudo fdisk -l
[01:20] <belal1> i have a microsoft lifecam.  the video works great but for some reason, the mic on it does not work at all.  what could be the problem? it works under windows perfectly...
[01:20] <codebrainz> aurilliance, as root it will list the drives, but not where they are mounted
[01:20] <aurilliance> codebrainz, DasEi thanks both
[01:20] <DasEi> np
[01:21] <jon_> Loshki: thank you
[01:21] <codebrainz> belal1, what software are you using with it?
[01:21] <mfpcokets> Hi, anyone know how to play 720p .mkv on an acer aspire one net book?  I used this method on XP http://www.infobarrel.com/How_to_watch_720p_mkv_x264_movies_on_an_Acer_Aspire_One_Windows_XP_Netbook and it worked like  a charm but cant find a linux equivilant
[01:21] <belal1> i'm using empathy.  but i also tried using sound recorder.
[01:21] <DasEi> qaa:how do you connect them now ?
[01:22] <IdleOne> !sound | belal1 Check your input device is not muted
[01:22] <DasEi> mfpcokets: I think vlc plays them
[01:22] <quaa> DasEi: i am guessing it was a hw raid set, not really sure how WD set them up
[01:22] <sjokkis> for some reason the numpad on my laptop activates randomly. after some varying time interval, my keyboard layout will change so that the keys on my right hand (890uiojklm) produce numbers rather than letters. setting the keyboard layout with setxkbmap fixes the problem until it happens again. can anyone offer an opinion on what might cause this?
[01:22] <DasEi> mfpcokets: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras vlc
[01:22] <belal1> thanks guys, i'm going to check out those links.  it's not muted though, i've checked.
[01:22] <mfpcokets> DasEi, it does but im loosing lots of frames
[01:22] <codebrainz> belal1, happen to have a lifecam sitting here, let me try
[01:23] <belal1> :) thanks
[01:23] <DasEi> qaa: if enclosure is broken, how do you connect the hd's now ?
[01:23] <IdleOne> belal1: was that the issue?
[01:23] <quaa> DasEi: i ripped them out of the enclosure and they are now connected to my working sata card.
[01:23] <sebsebseb> belal1: well thats good the web cam works :)  in the future its a good idea to buy hardware that you know is supported by the manufacture when it comes to Linux :)
[01:23] <SpazStatic> Loshki: Yeah, monitor problems. Comp thinks that the max resolution is 640x480, which is below the minimum reported res on other computers (800x600).
[01:24] <mfpcokets> DasEi, thanks, ill try that
[01:24] <belal1> IdleOne:  i don't know the issue.  i suspected it was first muted, but that wasn't the case.  I tried switching settings under sound preferences but they all failed.
[01:25] <DasEi> qaa: so you have one hd running ubu now and the two hd's connected to same sys ?
[01:25] <belal1> sebsebseb:  Yeah, your right.  Though to my defence I was just converting a windows xp system to Lucid....
[01:25] <quaa> DasEi: they are two 500 gb disks, disk one shows one partition that is 1TB in space, where disk 2 shows no partitions.  both have a perfect log in smartctl.
[01:25] <codebrainz> belal1, yea my lifecam "cinema" works perfect, A and V
[01:25] <Loshki> SpazStatic: it's a new hardware setup?
[01:25] <quaa> DasEi: i have them both connected to the system running a live CD.
[01:25] <IRConan> hi there... does the ubuntu livecd have support for experimental BTRFS?
[01:25] <codebrainz> sebsebseb, lifecam's ARE supposed to be supported, at least by v4l2
[01:25] <sebsebseb> belal1: yeah and Microsoft don't like Linux much
[01:25] <DasEi> qaa: so you are fine then in raid 0 (striped)
[01:25] <Benkinooby> hi, i removed all the kde from my kubuntu and installed fluxbox and lubuntu (lxde)... now i experience some issues with graphic performance... when there are many windows open, moving windows is very slow... the laptop itself is still fast... i chekced /etc/X11 and found out, that i only have a xorg.conf.failsafe but no xorg.conf... how can i mkae up/generate a new xorg file... or is there an other way recommended?
[01:26] <Loshki> codebrainz: I'm in the market for a cam. What model would you recommend?
[01:26] <SpazStatic> Loshki: everything is the same except that I am now on Linx, and the monitor is different than the previous one.
[01:26] <lovehanli> 0
[01:26] <Doyle> Q: Using MPD (local) with an Ario client. Arios folder view only displays folders with names starting with an escalamation mark. Any ideas what might cause this?
[01:26] <belal1> codebrainz:  hmm.... thanks for checking it out.  I'm going to look over the links.  I probably have something conflicting.  Just trying to figure out what.
[01:26] <stairmast0r> !panels
[01:26] <quaa> DasEi: yeah well if i just mount the one disk and try to list its contents it doesnt work as expected, dont really know how to mount them and tell the system it was a raid set
[01:26] <Leodwarf> Hello
[01:26] <h00k> Benkinooby: Xorg is not needed anymore, but if you have an xorg with options, it will read and use the settings from that
[01:27] <Loshki> !resolution | SpazStatic
[01:27] <codebrainz> Loshki, the LifeCam cinema is nice, although it tends to hunt for focus a bit when it's dark
[01:27] <Loshki> SpazStatic: see if there's something in the above that helps...
[01:27] <drs305> tomas_90: Good day. Having grub2 problems?
[01:27] <Jordan_U> quaa: This is the problem with what is sold as "hardware" raid in desktop systems, you don't get any performance improvement since it's all still done with the CPU and you get the downside of proprietary metadata formats making arrays hard to recover
[01:27] <lovehanli> HI
[01:27] <Benkinooby> h00k, no xorg anymore? what relpaces it?
[01:27] <belal1> hi
[01:27] <SpazStatic> Loshki: Been given that 3 times before, not counting this one, or the time that I found the wiki page before I got on IRC.
[01:28] <h00k> Benkinooby: settings are autodetected
[01:28] <phong_> hi i have question
[01:28] <phong_> how to install nvidia
[01:28] <h00k> !vidia | phong_
[01:28] <phong_> i remember presss ctrl
[01:28] <h00k> !nvidia | phong_
[01:28] <jon1> Hello
[01:28] <sebsebseb> phong_: antyhing in
[01:28] <belal1> brb
[01:28] <Loshki> codebrainz: googling it now...
[01:28] <DasEi> qaa: sudo fdisk -l gives ?
[01:28] <sebsebseb> phong_: system > administration > hardware drivers for it?
[01:28] <SpazStatic> Loshki: However, i'm not a very well versed Linux user. Perhaps if you were to lead me along while going through it?
[01:28] <Leodwarf> help I need webcam, some soft?
[01:28] <phong_> sebsebseb, i want to install myself....not thru system
[01:28] <codebrainz> Loshki, 720/hd and good audio
[01:28] <jon1> I have a fresh install of ubuntu, it doesnt load grum (just blinking cursor). I have a software raid.
[01:29] <phong_> i remembger i did it before
[01:29] <stairmast0r> sebsebseb: resetting it just reset the panels, not the "gnome custom menu"
[01:29] <jon1> grum
[01:29] <jon1> igrub
[01:29] <sjokkis> for some reason the numpad on my laptop activates randomly. after some varying time interval, my keyboard layout will change so that the keys on my right hand (890uiojklm) produce numbers rather than letters. setting the keyboard layout with setxkbmap fixes the problem until it happens again. can anyone offer an opinion on what might cause this?
[01:29] <sebsebseb> phong_: you should install from the repo only really, unless  you really have to get from them,  since  when you install from them,  you are likely to get problems
[01:29] <phong_> it's like log off and terminate the graphic thing then install with .run
[01:29] <Loshki> SpazStatic: sounds like you need expert help. You need to put all stuff we've mentioned above into a single query and post it here every 15 minutes until Someone Who Knows shows up...
[01:30] <quaa> Jordan_U: i agree.  this is an external my cuz bought and asked me to look at it to see if it was recoverable.  buying a external multidisk set is dumb imo
[01:30] <sebsebseb> starcoder|Q: menu editor  just  uhmm go through that, and add stuff you want I guess
[01:30] <jon1> I have a fresh install of ubuntu, it doesnt load grub (just blinking cursor). I have a software raid.
[01:30] <SpazStatic> Loshki: I think its that I'm not entirely sure what all of the xrand and various things within the command are, or how to use them properly. I kind of get lost.
[01:30] <Loshki> sjokkis: I can't even offer an *explanation* of why it happens. An obscure X server bug?
[01:30] <sebsebseb> jon1: not sure if this is helpful, but
[01:30] <sebsebseb> !raid | jon1
[01:31] <quaa> DasEi: http://pastebin.com/bnxG5QZn
[01:32] <Benkinooby> h00k, i allrdy had a look at this
[01:32] <Benkinooby> i use a intel integrateed graca
[01:32] <luis_> #ubuntu-es
[01:32] <jon1> the raid was created through the installer
[01:33] <Loshki> SpazStatic: Hmm. I just looked at the man page, xrandr *is* a complex beastie...
[01:33] <SpazStatic> Loshki: Yeah, have you any experience with it?
[01:33] <Loshki> SpazStatic: none at all :-)
[01:33] <aurilliance> When executing "sudo mount /dev/sdb ~/temp" I get the message "mount: /dev/sdb already mounted or /home/aaron/temp busy"
[01:33] <luis_> Hello, how solve ubuntu's boot proble: dev/x/y no yet installed press to skip o m to manual mounting?
[01:34] <Jordan_U> quaa: Have you installed the "dmraid" package?
[01:34] <aurilliance> I've umount ed /dev/sdb - how can I check if "temp" is busy?
[01:34] <SpazStatic> Loshki: So you wouldn't be likely to help me understand what its talking about, would you?
[01:34] <Loshki> codebrainz: and it was plug and play for you?
[01:34] <quaa> Jordan_U: yes, tried dmraid -r and it  "no raid disks"
[01:34] <DasEi> qaa: you will have to go with mdadm to reassemble the raid, and possibly lvscan
[01:34] <codebrainz> Loshki, yep, i literally just plugged and played it to test for that guy :)  I bought it for programming with Gstreamer to record video
[01:35] <rafaelsoaresbr> does anyone known how to move /var to another location like a symbolic link?
[01:35] <cyborgsmurf> DasEi: Im back
[01:35] <sjokkis> Loshki: i have no idea. i'm almost ready to go ahead and reinstall
[01:35] <Exxon> hi
[01:35] <aurilliance> rafaelsoaresbr, what do you mean?
[01:35] <jon1> bah
[01:36] <codebrainz> rafaelsoaresbr, for what purpose?
[01:36] <phong_> this is what i should do: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:36] <phong_> in order to install nvidia
[01:36] <jon1> i love how ubuntu always fails me
[01:36] <Exxon> how to fix hard disk problem (bad sectors)..!
[01:36] <phong_> can anyone tell me how to switch to linux command mode?
[01:36] <phong_> ctrl+f1
[01:36] <phong_> ???
[01:36] <cyborgsmurf> DasEi: *yawn* anyway Im to tired to try anything today Good Night everyone and thank you all so very much
[01:36] <quaa> DasEi: there any way you can explain? i dont have much experience with mdadm
[01:36] <codebrainz> jon1, are you using LVM or actual software raid?
[01:36] <phong_> is it ctrl+alt+f1 ?
[01:37] <rafaelsoaresbr> aurilliance, codebrainz, I need to free up some space in /, so I want to move /var to /backup/var using symbolic link. is it possilbe?
[01:38] <aurilliance> rafaelsoaresbr, "cd / && mkdir backup && mv /var /backup/var"
[01:38] <aurilliance> then you'd need to create the link (i can't remember the specifics, but it's the ln command)
[01:38] <codebrainz> rafaelsoaresbr, best would be to mount /var to /backup/var in /etc/fstab i would think, after moving the files
[01:38] <aurilliance> ^
[01:38] <luis_> _> Hello, how solve ubuntu's boot proble: dev/x/y no yet installed press to skip o m to manual mounting?
[01:39] <InnerFIRE_> is there a ubuntu channel for audio help
[01:39] <InnerFIRE_> ?
[01:39] <InnerFIRE_> ?
[01:39] <Loshki> sjokkis: I don't see any X server bugs in google that also involve forgetting keyboard settings...
[01:39] <FloodBot2> InnerFIRE_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:39] <joshdreamland> Any graphics experts? Compiz can't detect my graphics card for some reason. It's an NVidia GeForce, FX 5200. I'm running the proprietary driver, version 173.
[01:39] <Exxon> how to check hard disk for bad sector and to fix them!!
[01:39] <DasEi> qaa: I'm not much in techs these days, but lets try :
[01:39] <codebrainz> luis_, that's so not an actual error message, or proper english
[01:39] <Loshki> InnerFIRE_: this channel is a good place to ask for audio help...
[01:39] <luis_> shit
[01:39] <joshdreamland> Its description reads, "If you wish to enable desktop effects, this driver is required." Well, the driver's active, and desktop effects don't work.
[01:39] <codebrainz> Exxon, badblocks or fsck i guess
[01:39] <luis_> my problem is
[01:40] <DasEi> qaa: sudo mdadm -A /dev/md0
[01:40] <InnerFIRE_> yeah.. i have audio in my headphones but no speakers
[01:40] <InnerFIRE_> can someone help with hat
[01:40] <InnerFIRE_> ?
[01:40] <InnerFIRE_> that?
[01:40] <FloodBot2> InnerFIRE_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:40] <InnerFIRE_> what? flood.. i sent like two lines
[01:40] <quaa> DasEi: "mdadm: /dev/md0 not identified in config file."
[01:40] <IdleOne> !ohmy | luis_
[01:40] <luis_> when ubuntu is booting, an error message mount looks in my screen  S to skip M : manual mounting
[01:40] <Loshki> InnerFIRE_: stop hitting return. Put it all on one line and the floodbot will leave you alone...
[01:40] <h00k> InnerFIRE_: please stop flooding, keep all of your things to one line
[01:41] <InnerFIRE_> ok
[01:41] <codebrainz> InnerFIRE_, unmute your audio in sound preferences
[01:41] <InnerFIRE_> tried that
[01:41] <sjokkis> Loshki: i think it's just a setting somewhere that changes my keyboard layout
[01:41] <T1750> getdeb is down right
[01:41] <sjokkis> Loshki: i simply have no idea where that might be
[01:41] <InnerFIRE_> every options u are about to suggest to me i've tried
[01:41] <aurilliance> I'm following http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=694513 and at step 6 it says to put your BIOS flasher on the USB, what does that mean?
[01:41] <rafaelsoaresbr> aurilliance, codebrainz, /backup is on another partition, / partition is almost full (1Gb left). codebrainz: it sounds good, how to do that?
[01:41] <InnerFIRE_> been working on this for a year
[01:41] <quaa> DasEi: then i try this http://pastebin.com/E7kBvgYj
[01:42] <h00k> InnerFIRE_: did you report a bug with your audio card?
[01:42] <aurilliance> I have downloaded a gigabyte bios update .zip, but what is the BIOS flasher?
[01:42] <h00k> InnerFIRE_: if you've tried everything else?
[01:42] <T1750> i need a package called aria2 so i installed the lenny version (thought i was supposed to be able to install debian packages like that) from debian
[01:42] <T1750> it malfunctions, is there an ubuntu version anywhere?
[01:42] <phong_> hi
[01:42] <phong_> i manage to get the nvidia install manually now
[01:42] <holmser> I just did a fresh install of a 10.04 lamp server, and installed phpmyadmin
[01:42] <phong_> ;)
[01:42] <doormat81> Could someone recommend a good text editor with Python syntax highlighting?
[01:42] <phong_> horay
[01:42] <codebrainz> rafaelsoaresbr, totally guess here, but 'sudo cp -ar /var/* /backup/var' and then edit /etc/fstab file to make /backup/var be the mount point for /var
[01:42] <Loshki> sjokkis: sorry, I don't even know where to point you on that one. I don't think I've ever even *used* setxkbmap. Keep asking. Maybe an X guru will show up later...
[01:43] <h00k> doormat81: vim is quite nice, although it has a higher learning curve to it
[01:43] <holmser> I'm trying to create a database, but it says I have "no privilages"
[01:43] <arand> T1750: It's present in Lucid..
[01:43]  * T1750 asks question where is list of very unsupported community may be very insecure don't care repositories or packages web urls
[01:43] <holmser> any ideas?
[01:43] <InnerFIRE_> look man.. this has been an ongoing problem with ubuntu since ibex. im not the only one with the problem. plenty of sound problems since integrating with pulseaudio
[01:43] <T1750> arand: really? im on luciod
[01:43]  * T1750 tries again
[01:43] <doormat81> h00k, was more looking for one that runs within Gnome :)
[01:43] <Ubuntu_with_Coff> Hello yes is there any 1 here that can help me with an usb head set the sound is not working on it
[01:43] <codebrainz> doormat81, Geany is my fav
[01:44] <jon1> I have a fresh install of ubuntu, it doesnt load grub (just blinking cursor). I have a software raid.
[01:44] <h00k> doormat81: gedit can do syntax hilighting
[01:44] <dsnyders> codebrainz, Riviera,  there is a turtle graphics library for python.  That should help to get the sand out of the coding gearbox.
[01:44] <sef> hi can I use ext4 for /boot ?
[01:44] <sef> with 10.04
[01:44] <codebrainz> Ubuntu_with_Coff, unmute the device in sound preferences
[01:44] <h00k> InnerFIRE_: does the bug exist for the version you are currently are using?
[01:44] <mneptok> sef: yes
[01:44] <InnerFIRE_> this needs to be fix. sound of of the box. ive never even experienced anything like this windows. audio from headphones but not speakers?  i mean.. even windows hasnt had a weirder problem
[01:44] <doormat81> codebrainz, yeah, that looks about like what I had in mind.  Thanks again
[01:44] <InnerFIRE_> what verions..
[01:44] <doormat81> Thanks, h00k.
[01:44] <codebrainz> dsnyders, isn't that for 6 year olds :)
[01:44] <InnerFIRE_> im on 10.04?
[01:44] <Loshki> T1750: I didn't think any repos other than the 'official' Ubuntu ones were supported. If for no other reason than it would be impossible to test all the combinations...
[01:44] <masterslakk> think wc3 will be nice in wine?
[01:44] <InnerFIRE_> its been like this since ibex
[01:44] <codebrainz> doormat81, works good in windows too, if you use it
[01:44] <Ubuntu_with_Coff> brainz all is unmuted
[01:45] <sef> mneptok: sweet, thanks!
[01:45] <h00k> InnerFIRE_: What sound card do you have?
[01:45] <Ubuntu_with_Coff> still no audio
[01:45] <jon1> wow, im amazed that such a blatant issue is present with ubuntu...
[01:45] <SpazStatic> Loshki: Oh, ok, so I just figured something out. I "borrowed" a monitor from one of the other computers and hooked it up as well. It has a default res pf 1280x1024, and is identified as dell blah blah blah. The other monitor is identified as CRT-0, which signifies an error.
[01:45] <rafaelsoaresbr> codebrainz, I thought that a symbolic link would solve my problem. I will try that. thanks
[01:45] <aurilliance> Can someone please help me out for a few seconds and look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=694513 step 6? -I'm trying to flash my bios.
[01:45] <InnerFIRE_> h00k..
[01:45] <Sereph> how can i get more info to debug why my network printer doesnt show up when i type its ip in
[01:45] <T1750> well the problem is with aria2 cause the same problem happens as with the lenny package
[01:45] <codebrainz> Ubuntu_with_Coff, pastebin the output of 'ls -l /dev/dsp*'
[01:45] <InnerFIRE_> aplay -l shows this
[01:45] <dsnyders> codebrainz, it tickles the child within me :-)
[01:45] <aurilliance> It says to put the "BIOS flasher" onto the usb - what does that mean?
[01:45] <mneptok> jon1: software RAID created in what OS?
[01:45] <InnerFIRE_> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[01:45] <InnerFIRE_> card 0: ICH6 [Intel ICH6], device 0: Intel ICH [Intel ICH6]
[01:45] <InnerFIRE_>   Subdevices: 0/1
[01:45] <InnerFIRE_>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[01:45] <InnerFIRE_> card 0: ICH6 [Intel ICH6], device 4: Intel ICH - IEC958 [Intel ICH6 - IEC958]
[01:45] <InnerFIRE_>   Subdevices: 1/1
[01:45] <FloodBot2> InnerFIRE_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:45] <jon1> ubuntu installation
[01:46] <jon1> software
[01:46] <codebrainz> dsnyders, pygame is definitively worth looking at too, it's a stupid way of of naming PySDL
[01:46] <h00k> InnerFIRE_: please use Pastebin for multiline pastes.
[01:46] <T1750> i tapped a couple of neighbours wi-fi then was gunna ip route add some of the urls via their networks for ultraspeed lol
[01:46] <aurilliance> far out ^ it's called a pastebin
[01:46] <mneptok> jon1: using LVM?
[01:46] <jon1> 100% recognized at install, then doesnt install grub properly
[01:46] <jon1> lovely
[01:46] <aurilliance> Ubuntu_and_Coffe, morning
[01:46] <mneptok> jon1: is /boot located outside of the RAID set?
[01:46] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> lol
[01:46] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> any way
[01:47] <aurilliance> I'm copying BIOS update files to a usb - if they are all .exe
[01:47] <Loshki> T1750: all I could find was this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/aria2/support
[01:47]  * T1750 would have loved to see a several MiB/sec download to his own box
[01:47] <aurilliance> does it matter?
[01:47] <jon1> my raid isnt broken, and i can chainload into windows from floppy
[01:47] <T1750> Loshki: I posted there my problem will wait
[01:47] <T1750> thanks for looking for me
[01:47] <mneptok> jon1: is /boot located outside of the RAID set?
[01:47] <h00k> InnerFIRE_: perhaps this will help: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+question/106185
[01:47] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> i need help with a usb headset it does'nt have any audio
[01:47] <aurilliance> is there a ubuntu netbook chanel?
[01:47] <jon1> hard to say seeing as i cant boot...
[01:48] <jon1> i installed grub to vol0
[01:48] <DasEi> qaa:I will quit for today, as I'm too tired and recommending building a the array new is over my head, as there is danger in destroying data, sorry for that, got to ask on
[01:48] <jon1> so i imagine it should be there
[01:48] <mneptok> jon1: if /boot is *inside* the RAID array, of course it won't work. the RAID kernel modules are n the RAID array.
[01:48] <jon1> im gonna try livecd
[01:49] <jon1> i tried on sd0 lat time, still didnt work
[01:49] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> Can any 1 help me with a usb head set it doesnt have any audio
[01:49] <jon1> sda0
[01:49] <acerimmer_> aurilliance: not on the list https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[01:49] <aurilliance> acerimmer_, thanks
[01:49] <h00k> jon1: please try to keep all of your comments to one line, it makes things a lot easier to follow
[01:49]  * aurilliance is going now to try and flash BIOS from a USB :S wish me luck!
[01:49] <Sereph> !ask | Ubuntu_and_Coffe
[01:49] <codebrainz> Ubuntu_and_Coffe, pastebin the output of 'ls -l /dev/dsp*'
[01:50] <Sereph> oops my bad
[01:50] <Sereph> saw the any one and jumped the gun :S
[01:50] <Loshki> Sereph: don't worry about it...
[01:51] <T1750> why is apt-get still so noisy when i do -qq -y on an apt-get install
[01:51] <luis_> please help me
[01:51] <T1750> -qq means shut up and return me to the command prompt when i can use the program
[01:51] <Sereph> !ask | luis_
[01:51] <T1750> but i still get spammed to death about a bunch of stuff i don't care about or i'd run linux from scratch
[01:51] <codebrainz> Sereph, there you go!
[01:51] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> codebrainz i dont under stand what your saying is it in terminal where i should type that
[01:52] <edbian_> Where can I get help for developing java on linux?
[01:52] <luis_> Sereph: ¬¬
[01:52] <Loshki> T1750: just redirect the output into a file....
[01:52] <Sereph> luis_: what?
[01:52] <codebrainz> T1750, -qq No output except errors
[01:52] <Sereph> edbian_: ##Java?
[01:52] <T1750> codebrainz: it outputs lots of not errors on install
[01:52] <codebrainz> T1750, lies!
[01:53] <T1750> Loshki: good idea, and i like the way you think that *I* should change not the program, it solves the problem a zillion times quicker
[01:53] <edbian_> Sereph, #java is invite only
[01:53] <Sereph> edbian_: i said ##java
[01:53] <Loshki> !es | luis_
[01:53]  * T1750 doesn't care enough to add the extra &>/dev/null though
[01:53] <edbian_> Sereph, Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services  What does that mean?
[01:53] <h00k> !register | edbian_
[01:53] <Sereph> edbian_: that you need to learn irc
[01:53] <jon1> i think im going to try an reinstall grub form livecd, it seems like it doesnt know how to install fom the installation
[01:53] <codebrainz> T1750, yeah, just tried, i think that's dpkg outputting that.  bummer
[01:54] <edbian_> I already am registered on freenode
[01:54] <mneptok> Sereph: please be helpful. that was not.
[01:54] <Sereph> what client are you using that doesnt forward the channels...
[01:54] <Sereph> edbian_: identify for your nick
[01:54] <T1750> codebrainz: that should be considered a bug apt-get is superior and should be allowed to tell dpkg to shut up
[01:54] <edbian_> Sereph, I did!  My client automatically does for me.  That's how I got in here
[01:54]  * T1750 isn't going to report it though
[01:54] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> Hello i need help with a usb headset it does'nt have any audio   -Thank you
[01:54] <codebrainz> T1750, apt just runs atop dpkg iirc
[01:55] <Sereph> edbian_: maybe the fact that your nick is edbian not edbian_
[01:55] <T1750> of course, by superior i mean it's the controller, dpkg is just a model
[01:55] <Loshki> T1750: please *do* report it....
[01:55] <T1750> if you think of the system
[01:55] <Sereph> mneptok: I'm sorry I wasn't aware this was IRC help...
[01:55] <codebrainz> Ubuntu_and_Coffe, pastebin the output of 'ls -l /dev/dsp*'
[01:55] <codebrainz> Ubuntu_and_Coffe, we could've gotten you tested and working 10x by now :)
[01:55] <abadr> How do I install postgresql without automatically creating a cluster?
[01:56] <mneptok> Sereph: your "learn to use IRC" comment is not in the spirit of the Code Of Conduct
[01:56] <Sereph> Sorry
[01:56] <edbian_> Sereph, I identified again for good measure and I was able to get into ##java.  Thanks for the help
[01:56] <T1750> Loshki: I might do :) it means making yet another account my computer is badly damaged i did stupid stuff like reordered my partition table and formatted in the middle of nowhere
[01:56]  * T1750 fix those things first
[01:56]  * T1750 bbr
[01:57] <Loshki> T1750: agreed, fix those things first. You know about 'screen' ?
[01:57] <codebrainz> abadr, what do you mean by cluster?  the default install is just a regular server install
[01:57] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> codebrainz i dont under stand how to get to the directory
[01:57] <abadr> codebrainz: I mean cluster as in a data directory that stores multiple databases that postgresql reads...
[01:57] <codebrainz> Ubuntu_and_Coffe, go to Terminal, and type that
[01:58] <codebrainz> abadr, isn't that just how database servers work?  what specifically are you trying to do?
[01:58] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> ok i have typed it in the terminal
[01:58] <sebastien> hi everybody, is there some french people ??? Coucou tout le monde, y a t il des français ?
[01:58] <abadr> codebrainz: I'm initializing my cluster in a different location, after postgresql in installed
[01:58] <codebrainz> Ubuntu_and_Coffe, how many /dev/dsp devices were listed?
[01:58] <InnerFIRE_> ubuntu audio help channel please
[01:58] <InnerFIRE_> what channel is it
[01:59] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 14, 3 2010-06-07 15:24 /dev/dsp
[01:59] <Loshki> abadr: be sure to also ask on #postgresql where the experts hang out...
[01:59] <piju> guys, ubuntu-hams is organizing a HF net. to all amateur radio feels free to check in. more info on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHamsNets
[01:59] <piju> thanks
[01:59] <codebrainz> Ubuntu_and_Coffe, just the one line?
[01:59] <sebastien> hi everybody, is there some french people ??? Coucou tout le monde, y a t il des français ?
[01:59] <abadr> Loshki: already did, they don't know :)
[01:59] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> yes
[01:59] <h00k> !fr | sebastien
[01:59] <codebrainz> Ubuntu_and_Coffe, do you have a built-in sound card also?
[01:59] <mneptok> sebastien: oui, en #ubuntu-fr ou #ubuntu-qc
[01:59] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> yes
[01:59] <sebastien> h00k, on se sent vite seul
[01:59] <sebastien> je suis sur irssi
[02:00] <sebastien> c'est vraiment très basique !
[02:00] <h00k> InnerFIRE_: there is no channel dedicated to audio. Did you see the previous link I offerd?
[02:00] <Loshki> abadr: that's scary...
[02:00] <sebastien> j'ai l'impression de chater sur MS dos !!!
[02:00] <mneptok> sebastien: ecrivez "/join #ubuntu-fr"
[02:00] <codebrainz> Ubuntu_and_Coffe, it looks like your device is not being properly detected.  is it supposed to be supported?
[02:00] <mneptok> sebastien: sans ""
[02:00] <h00k> sebastien: this channel is English, for French, please /join #ubuntu-fr
[02:00] <sebastien> hook, thanks ;)
[02:00] <abadr> Loshki: well postgresql doesn't create a cluster on install by default, that's a packaging-specific thing i think. maybe i'll ask in debian
[02:00] <amokpaule> hello, i try to add my comp to ubuntu one but i get this error: Unable to connect
[02:00] <amokpaule>       
[02:00] <amokpaule>       
[02:00] <amokpaule>       
[02:00] <amokpaule>       
[02:00] <amokpaule>       
[02:00] <FloodBot2> amokpaule: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:00] <Loshki> abadr: best of luck...
[02:01] <abadr> thanks
[02:01] <InnerFIRE_> h00k ive tried every link. post it again and ill see if its any different. more than likely, ive been to it already
[02:01] <h00k> InnerFIRE_: perhaps this will help: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+question/106185
[02:01] <h00k> InnerFIRE_: as I said before, if you're unable to find anything about ICH6 Audio on 10.04, please report a bug.
[02:01] <codebrainz> InnerFIRE_, what was the prob again?
[02:02] <urthmover> is anyone else having strange CPU scaling problems on 10.04?
[02:02] <amokpaule> Hello, i try to add my comp to ubuntu one but i get this error: http://pastebin.com/BQMnNj3H
[02:02] <codebrainz> Ubuntu_and_Coffe, if you re-plugin the headset and then run the command 'dmesg | tail -n 10' you should see some meaningful information
[02:02] <Jordan_U> jon1: Do you have more than one hard drive?
[02:03] <urthmover> 9.04 does not have these problems for me....what packages are different that I can sort this out?
[02:03] <codebrainz> urthmover, what problems?
[02:03] <Loshki> amokpaule: what's running on localhost:56639 ?
[02:03] <jon1> well i have 2 hdd as a software raid
[02:04] <amokpaule> im not sure
[02:04] <codebrainz> jon1, no luck installing grub from the livecd?
[02:04] <urthmover> codebrainz: well sometimes I am unable to put my cpu (using the gnome panel applet) on 2.67GHz...its stuck on 800MHz
[02:04] <dark1> hello , in shellscript, what does if [ -d "$1" ]  , -d consider as ?
[02:04] <InnerFIRE_> the problem is that i can hear music through headphones bt not through the internal speakers
[02:04] <urthmover> codebrainz: I have installed sensors  and am watching the temp of the cpu and it never goes over 70C
[02:05] <InnerFIRE_> and i reported the bug almost a year and some change ago
[02:05] <amokpaule> Loshki, how can i found out?
[02:05] <urthmover> codebrainz: your thoughts?
[02:05] <InnerFIRE_> i need to talk to someone who knows the audio system
[02:05] <Loshki> dark1: -d is true if the argument exists and is a directory (man test)
[02:06] <luis_> My ubuntu boot problem: Partition dev/ sdx/y not ready o no yet present press to skip m to manual mount, how solve this isuue?
[02:06] <codebrainz> urthmover, http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/cpu-freq/governors.txt
[02:06] <h00k> InnerFIRE_: Did you preform all of the steps at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure ?
[02:06] <codebrainz> urthmover, might be worth a read
[02:06] <urthmover> codebrainz: looking thx
[02:07] <codebrainz> luis_, i've never seen such a message.  when does it say this?
[02:08] <urthmover> codebrainz: yep  cpufreq-info  and cpufreq-selector is what I have also been using to hard set this...thinking that it might be a gnome panel applet problem....but alas  the problem persists on 10.04 for me
[02:08] <luis_> codebrainz, are you an idiot??? in spanish we cant read and undrestand a lot grammatical forms ¬¬
[02:08] <Arthur___> i want to install the mini.iso then install packages as i need them. i want to use vesa driver for video do i have to install xorg to get that or can i install it separately
[02:08] <Howzi_> \
[02:08] <Loshki> luis_: please try and keep a civil tone, ok?
[02:08] <Loshki>  
[02:09] <luis_> Go and eat shit¡¡¡
[02:09] <Guthur> Is there any permanent work around for the mountall bug in Lucid
[02:09] <edbian_> !ops | luis_lopez
[02:09] <edbian_> whoops
[02:09] <codebrainz> h00k, thanks
[02:09] <Guthur> It can't log into my system with out a nasty workaround from the emergency console
[02:09] <Loshki> amokpaule: I would check your browser config first. Do you have a proxy configured?
[02:10] <Arthur___> i want to install the mini.iso then install packages as i need them. i want to use vesa driver for video do i have to install xorg to get that or can i install it separately
[02:10] <Guthur> This issue -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8761758
[02:10] <amokpaule> Loshki, not that im aware off this is a freash ubuntu install
[02:10] <dark1> Loshki, if i dropping a db, and is being accessed by other users, how do i pick that up with the test, i have send the output as 2>&1 > /dev/null
[02:10] <dark1> now how do i check for that condition? :)
[02:10] <Agolightly> I just bought an belkin play router and i can not seem to get the setup cd to work. it gives me an error message. anyone familiar with this
[02:10] <InnerFIRE_> h00k, ill perform them. but ive performed the before
[02:11] <codebrainz> Arthur___, you can just use the Alternate cd and select Command line install.  and kernel has a vesa and x also supports it
[02:11] <T1750> Loshki: I used screen in the 90's before they invented GUI terminals with multiple tabs
[02:11] <Loshki> T1750: ok, it's just that it sounded like you could use it now...
[02:11] <T1750> now i can't think why I'd want to use it unless to detach some program on a server, and i can't think of any program i'd want to detach
[02:12] <codebrainz> Arthur___, if you want X, you need X + the vesa driver, if you just want the kernel framebuffer without X, then you just enable the vesafb driver (or uvesafb)
[02:12] <T1750> Loshki: naah i a mix of GUI and CLI
[02:12] <h00k> InnerFIRE_: that's probably going to be your best bet, then if you report it on Launchpad, the Audio people will be able to see it and assist
[02:12]  * T1750 doesn't understand the purists
[02:13] <Arthur___> i have an older computer i dont need xorg i think vesa will do i want to know how to sudo apt-get vesa?
[02:13] <InnerFIRE_> after 3 distros?
[02:13] <InnerFIRE_> h00k this has been going on for over a year
[02:13] <Arthur___> i am going to use the minimal cd and install packages as i need them
[02:13] <T1750> Loshki: why did you think i could make use of it btw, i could always be wrong there may be an excellent reason for still using screen
[02:13] <Loshki> T1750: sorry, I thought you were the one complaining about spurious output from apt-get in the background, I just thought that if you ran it under screen it would keep all the output from getting mixed up...
[02:13] <codebrainz> Arthur___, what do you expect from the framebuffer/vesa?  it won't give you windows like X or window managers like metacity
[02:14] <T1750> Loshki: Oh I was, but it was more comment than complaint
[02:14] <Arthur___> i know sudo apt-get install xorg will install xorg but i want to use vesa driver instead..?
[02:14] <h00k> InnerFIRE_: It needs to be reported so the devs know about the problem. Please report it and that you're having a problem with Lucid.
[02:14] <T1750> on a scale of 1-10 of care i'm about a 0.5
[02:15] <SaEeDIRHA> hello, how can i fix my apt-get package manager ? i have removed some files manually and now when i run "apt-get autoremove" it shows me an error message that it cannot find the directories which is because i removed them manually , how can i fix this problem ?
[02:15] <codebrainz> Arthur___, apt-get install --no-install-recommends xinit xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-input-kbd xserver-xorg-input-mouse xfonts-base xterm
[02:15] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> thank u cod brainz this should be enough information 2 fix it and i am seeing multiple C-Media USB Headphone Set
[02:16] <codebrainz> Arthur___, that's a basic X install, but you'd prolly be better off using your real drivers
[02:16] <T1750> SaEeDIRHA: tell apt to reinstall itself? :) make the dirs?
[02:16] <Loshki> amokpaule: well, it seems logical from the error message: "Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at localhost:56639.". I can't think why it would choose such an address unless it was configured somewhere...
[02:16] <SaEeDIRHA> T1750: how can i tell apt-get to reinstall itself ? is there anyway to clean its catch ?
[02:16] <T1750> apt-get clean
[02:17] <Arthur___> i have older computers want ubuntu on them and dont want to put any xtra load on the slow cpu's 1000mhz 700 and a 600...
[02:17] <SaEeDIRHA> i have upgraded the system and since then i am encountering problem
[02:17] <ppires> hi there. does anyone here has experience building packages using boost.build?
[02:17] <amokpaule> Loshki, ok can you tell me for what i have to look now?
[02:17] <T1750> SaEeDIRHA: tell me what you did, write it in a big paste bin, i will do it too, then repair it and pastebin it back
[02:17] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> THANK U VERY MUCH CODEBRAINZ i got full sound and in line mic
[02:17] <codebrainz> Arthur___, install a Command line from the alternate CD and then run that apt-get command i gave, i can assure you it will run fine.
[02:17] <T1750> but you only have 15 minutes or so :)
[02:17] <codebrainz> Ubuntu_and_Coffe, np.  glad you got it working
[02:17] <aaaoooaaa> hi guys, anybody know how to extract a .rar file?
[02:18] <T1750> SaEeDIRHA: like, try and pastebin the commands, if you cant just describe
[02:18] <codebrainz> Arthur___, i'd also recommend a nice lightweight window manager and panel
[02:18] <SaEeDIRHA> ok
[02:18] <aaaoooaaa> im on ubuntu karmic
[02:18] <SaEeDIRHA> w8
[02:18] <h00k> !unrar | aaaoooaaa
[02:18] <Arthur___> yea i installed the base system and used xorg i think vesa will be less resource hog? is that right???
[02:18] <codebrainz> Arthur___, doubt it.  probably get better performance with the proper driver
[02:19] <SaEeDIRHA> T1750: http://pastebin.com/DJHY4xap
[02:19] <Arthur___> think xorg will work better?
[02:19] <T1750> someone should e-mail that rar guy that nobody except pirates uses rar anyway so he might as well make it OS
[02:19] <T1750> nobody's gunna buy it they're pirates
[02:19] <codebrainz> Arthur___, xorg is sorta your only choice if you want anything resembling a regular desktop environment
[02:19] <Hdale85> I'm trying to chroot into my main root directory from the live CD so I can use apt-get to fix some issues that made my network not work anymore, but my sources was set to just cd so it's not using the net
[02:19] <h00k> T1750: please keep it ontopic:)
[02:19] <T1750> h00k: sorry
[02:20] <judget> something silly and trivial but annoying in 10.04 is where the icons go for minimized apps does anyone else experience this or have a solution?
[02:20] <judget> im running 10.04 studio
[02:20] <codebrainz> judget, you mean how they're on the left?
[02:20] <Loshki> amokpaule: sorry, dunno. Also ask in #firefox, ok?
[02:20] <judget> is there a property for the notification area that I may have misset?
[02:20] <Arthur___> so as in proper driver u mean xorg?
[02:20] <T1750> SaEeDIRHA: what is your uname -a output ?
[02:20] <T1750> paste in here
[02:21] <amokpaule> Loshki,  ok ty for your time :)
[02:21] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> codebrainz we got 1 problem tho i dont get any audio online (youtube,aolmusic)
[02:21] <Agolightly> anyone have experience with belkin wireless routers that can help me figure out why i can not connect wirelessly
[02:21] <judget> codebrainz Im running a dual port so they seem to go off to the right bottom of the screen  but i cant find them
[02:21] <SaEeDIRHA> T1750: "Linux base 2.6.32-22-generic #36-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 3 19:31:57 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux"
[02:21] <codebrainz> Arthur___, no, i mean instead of xserver-xorg-video-vesa, use xserver-xorg-video-your_real_driver
[02:21] <judget> I can alt+tab to get minimized stuff back
[02:22] <codebrainz> judget, do you have an applet in your panel for this (i forget the name in gnome)
[02:22] <SaEeDIRHA> T1750: i remember removed those files long ago manually
[02:22] <zifnab> i can't find sun-java6-jdk in lucid
[02:22] <T1750> thats ok then those files are all cruff so you can go crazy
[02:22] <codebrainz> judget, it's called "task list" in xfce
[02:22] <T1750> use dpkg to force remove the package
[02:22] <zifnab> what happened to it? i've got main-multiverse-universe enabled
[02:22] <T1750> i forget how
[02:22]  * T1750 looks in manpage
[02:22] <SaEeDIRHA> ok
[02:23] <h00k> judget: indicator-applet ?
[02:23] <codebrainz> h00k, the one that shows opened windows
[02:23] <h00k> oh, the...uh.
[02:23] <Jordan_U> jon1: Is the array composed of drives, with the content of the array partitioned, or is the array composed of partitions?
[02:23] <Arthur___> one more stupid question how would i determine my correct driver?
[02:23] <h00k> you know, task-switcher thingy :)
[02:23] <tripelb> hi, I used to have javascript and adobe. but what's up now? 9.10 chrome.java allowed. should I do the adobe version again? I sort of remember that some version of flash is Good and some version is Bad. lol-good-bad.
[02:24] <tripelb> To view this movie you need the Adobe Flash Player plugin. You also need JavaScript enabled in your browser.
[02:24] <T1750> SaEeDIRHA: i;m not leet enuf to work it out cuz i don't use deb as my main package system mostly i suggest you read man pages but uust use dpkg tools not apt and --force things
[02:24] <T1750> if you give me an sssh login i will do it
[02:24] <Loshki> zifnab: looks like they talk about it here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1406969
[02:24] <h00k> !danger
[02:24] <T1750> but that would be a biut silly to givr a stranger root ssh to your box
[02:24] <zifnab> Loshki, thanks i couldn't find that for some reason
[02:24] <h00k> T1750: Please do not suggest that.
[02:25] <judget> so i should add a task list item to the panmel?
[02:25] <T1750> h00k: what the let me ssh thing?
[02:25] <codebrainz> judget, yeah, i think the default in gnome is in the bottom panel
[02:25] <tommyoblood> hey, I am having a problem after I updated my Ubuntu to 10.04. I can't load Ubuntu without my 9.04 cd in. I get this error: Non-system disk or disk error. replace and strike any key. I put the 9.04 disk in and goto boot from disk and everything works well. Am I missing some boot files or what? I am at a loss
[02:25] <Loshki> SaEeDIRHA: do I need to warn you not to let strange men into your system via ssh?
[02:25] <judget> ah it is called window list in gnome
[02:25] <T1750> h00k: there's no reason he can't force remove all those old kernels they're not needed
[02:25] <Cinnamon> hello
[02:25] <T1750> so i guess you must mean that
[02:26] <judget> codebrain in ubuntu studio you only have one task panel
[02:26] <h00k> T1750: just the 'allow me into your box' type behavior, please don't do that
[02:26] <T1750> ok :)
[02:26] <h00k> T1750: Thank you :)
[02:26] <Cinnamon> were to i get more screensavers
[02:26] <codebrainz> judget, ah, ok then :)
[02:26] <T1750> ill give it a crack at re-creating the error then
[02:26] <Cinnamon> do*
[02:26] <Pelo> Cinnamon, check in synaptic there are several packages that aren'T installed by default
[02:26] <h00k> Cinnamon: you can check in the Software Center for some
[02:27] <amokpaule> Loshki, i got it now i had to stop ubuntu one on my comp then restart now it works.
[02:27] <Cinnamon> ok thanks
[02:27] <codebrainz> tommyoblood, any other os on the system?
[02:27] <tripelb> I cant do hulu on chrome. I disabled flashblock. still it fails.
[02:27] <h00k> Cinnamon: you can also check gnome-look.org but beware and don't install anything you're not positive what it is.
[02:27] <Loshki> amokpaule: very good...
[02:27] <tommyoblood> codebrainz, nope only 10.04
[02:27] <codebrainz> tommyoblood, you can try reinstalling grub, might fix it
[02:27] <h00k> Cinnamon: there was an instance of a malicious behavior on gnome-look.org so be certain of what you're installing if you get anything from there.
[02:27] <judget> codebrain, i had thought it was the notification item but apparently iin gnome it is called a window list
[02:28] <codebrainz> judget, yea that's the ticket
[02:28] <tommyoblood> codebrainz, what is the commands for that in the terminal?
[02:28] <h00k> judget: window-list, that's it
[02:28] <judget> thanks
[02:28] <T1750> SaEeDIRHA: which ver of ubuntu did you say you were on again?
[02:28] <Loshki> h00k: was there? Got a link handy?
[02:28] <codebrainz> tommyoblood, man grub-install
[02:28] <SaEeDIRHA> latest
[02:28] <h00k> Loshki: of what?
[02:28] <SaEeDIRHA> 10.04
[02:28] <SaEeDIRHA> i just upgraded
[02:28] <Cinnamon> i wish i could have someone set this up for me
[02:29] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> Hello codbrainz sry for asking again but i dont get no audio on firefox
[02:29] <h00k> Cinnamon: you might also get some use from the !manual
[02:29] <Loshki> ",,,an instance of a malicious behavior on gnome-look.org...". Maybe it wasn't as salacious as it sounded?
[02:29] <h00k> !manual | Cinnamon
[02:29] <h00k> Loshki: someone uploaded some bad stuff and packaged it as a screensaver, iirc
[02:29] <liquidweaver> Cinnamon: There might be a SLUUG where you live
[02:29] <liquidweaver> erm, I mean LUUG
[02:29] <Cinnamon> :(
[02:30] <Loshki> h00k: oh, that's nasty. About how long ago?
[02:30] <xxthink> I want to use scp to copy files between the server and my ubuntu using the username root. But others have already using the authorized_keys file in the server
[02:30] <h00k> Cinnamon: You might want to also check out Local Communities (LoCos) in your area.
[02:30] <h00k> Loshki: oh, a year or more, maybe.
[02:30] <Cinnamon> im just new to linux
[02:30] <Cinnamon> ok
[02:30] <tripelb> I cant get hulu in firefox or chrome. Yes I cleared the cache
[02:30] <h00k> !loco | Cinnamon (sorry to send you a ton of spam)
[02:30] <xxthink> When I use ssh-keygen to create a pub key file, what should I do next?
[02:30] <Loshki> h00k: thanks, I'll poke around...
[02:30] <h00k> Cinnamon: lastly, you can check out #ubuntu-beginners by typing /join #ubuntu-beginners
[02:31] <xxthink> If I copy my pub key file to the server, the original authorized_keys files in the server will be overwrite
[02:31] <xxthink> Is there some methods?
[02:32] <liquidweaver> authorized_keys holds multiple keys
[02:32] <belal1> alright, so i've tried to use gnome-alsamixer but to no avail!
[02:32] <Loshki> xxthink: you can add many entries to authorized_keys. *Append* your pub key to the file....
[02:32] <T1750> SaEeDIRHA: do you happen to remember which version of ubuntu installed linux-restricted-modules-2.6.28-11-generic was it karmic?
[02:32] <xxthink> ok
[02:32] <liquidweaver> you don't overwrite it, you append to it
[02:32] <xxthink> Loshki: thank you!
[02:32] <belal1> something has got to be conflicting....
[02:32] <xxthink> liquidweaver: ok
[02:32] <xxthink> Thank you!
[02:32] <SaEeDIRHA> T1750: i am fixing it manually :)
[02:32] <liquidweaver> np
[02:32] <codebrainz> belal1, what was the issue again?
[02:32] <T1750> SaEeDIRHA: good job
[02:32] <T1750> just dpkg force remove it all
[02:32] <belal1> codebrainz: microsoft vx-3000 mic not working
[02:33] <judget> Cinamain there is a free ubuntu handbook that you can download which is GREAT for beginners
[02:33] <codebrainz> belal1, what /dev/dsp devices do you have?
[02:33]  * T1750 was gunna install it then break it just like you did
[02:33] <Loshki> judget: check out using your tab key for nick autocompletion...
[02:34] <belal1> codebrainz:  how do I check?
[02:34] <hiexpo> evening all
[02:34] <SaEeDIRHA> T1750: dpkg didnt work, i fixed it by creating missing folders and files :D
[02:34] <Loshki> hiexpo: always nice to see regulars...
[02:34] <codebrainz> belal1, in the terminal window, type ls -l /dev/dsp*
[02:35] <T1750> SaEeDIRHA: another good hack
[02:35] <T1750> welll done
[02:35] <hiexpo> Loshki, thanx
[02:35] <belal1> crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 14,  3 2010-06-06 14:23 /dev/dsp
[02:35] <belal1> crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 14, 19 2010-06-06 14:23 /dev/dsp1
[02:35] <SaEeDIRHA> T1750: thankx for your help m8 :)
[02:35] <T1750> np
[02:35] <codebrainz> belal1, type this,  cat /dev/dsp1 > /dev/dsp
[02:35] <codebrainz> belal1, you should hear your mic (with some delay)
[02:35]  * T1750 woulda tried to make the files first too if it was his own machine but since didn't have package...
[02:36] <tommyoblood> codebrainz, where is there a tutorial or a walk through for reinstalling grub?
[02:36] <Loshki> codebrainz: is dsp1 always the microphone, then?
[02:36] <codebrainz> tommyoblood, prolly on the GNU website
[02:36] <Loshki> !grub2 | tommyoblood
[02:36] <jon1> ok, fixed my raid issues. forget trying to figure out what ubuntu did wrong. downloaded newest www.supergrubdisk.org, fixed it llike a charm. funny how a 2 mg cd can fix what ubiuntu cant get right in the first place
[02:36] <codebrainz> Loshki, not necessarily, i think it's the order they're detected/plugged, and since it's USB device ...
[02:37] <Loshki> codebrainz: yeah, makes sense, thanks...
[02:37]  * T1750 installed the ubuntu grub2 loader onto his suse lol
[02:37] <T1750> it's much better
[02:37] <T1750> i can boot directly into lvm
[02:38] <Loshki> T1750: I think that's the first thing I've heard grub2 is better at!
[02:38] <T1750> Loshki: i didn't need a stupid boot partition anymore
[02:38] <T1750> it was pointless but fun
[02:38] <belal1> codebrainz:  I don't hear anything
[02:39] <codebrainz> belal1, even after a few second delay?
[02:39] <belal1> yep
[02:39] <jon1> t1750, can you boot?
[02:39] <codebrainz> belal1, re-plugin the device and then do dmesg | tail -n 10
[02:39] <T1750> jon1: sure
[02:39] <codebrainz> belal1, then pastebin what it shows
[02:39] <jon1> what was wrong with your raid?
[02:40] <T1750> it even lets me reference my lvms like (lg0-lv0) instead of (hd0)
[02:40] <codebrainz> belal1, make it tail -n 20 (for more lines)
[02:40] <T1750> my raid (lvm) setup, mine personally?
[02:40] <T1750> oh i had a lot of trouble with it, so much trouble in the end it just got rid of it :)
[02:41] <T1750> started with a dying disk, it was raid 0
[02:41] <belal1> [112168.364076] [02:41] <belal1> [112288.364081] [02:41] <urthmover> how come I cannot set renice to -15 within top?
[02:41] <belal1> [112331.852052] usb 3-2: USB disconnect, address 2
[02:41] <belal1> [112331.853386] gspca: disconnect complete
[02:41] <belal1> [112335.864073] usb 3-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3
[02:41] <FloodBot2> belal1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:41] <belal1> [112336.025303] usb 3-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[02:41] <codebrainz> belal1, i said *pastebin*
[02:42] <Beyondinferno> someone want to help me with a broken package issue?
[02:42]  * T1750 did however boot back into his machine before deciding it was too much of a mess to fix. the opensuse autofix decided to reinstall *everything* for some unknown reason (the system worked fine) and then said it couldn't install a boot loader, so i installed ubuntus which worked like a charm :D
[02:42] <codebrainz> belal1, do    dmesg | tail -n 20      then go to pastebin.com or somewhere and post the output for me
[02:42] <belal1> codebrainz: sorry, i didn't know.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/446386/
[02:42] <Pelo> Beyondinferno, do you get an error msg ?
[02:43] <codebrainz> belal1, can you unplug, re-plug the device and then wait some seconds and try again (with the tail -n 20) part so i can see more lines
[02:43]  * T1750 didn't let autofix from opensuse keep reinstalling a whole working system so just killed it and archived his home dir
[02:43] <Beyondinferno> I wasn't home when it happend but i'm getting lockups and it show a broken package in synaptic
[02:44] <T1750> and aborting the autofix broke the machine
[02:44] <Pelo> Beyondinferno, did you try reinstalling it from synaptic ?
[02:44] <Beyondinferno> it's saying libdirectfb-dev is broken
[02:44] <Beyondinferno> and yes I did. it fails.
[02:44] <Pelo> Beyondinferno, remove completelty, then reinstall
[02:45] <h00k> T1750: please keep the conversation centered on ubuntu support :)
[02:45] <Beyondinferno> even though it has a bunch of dependacies?
[02:46] <codebrainz> belal1, also what type of LifeCam is it (full model name)
[02:46] <Pelo> Beyondinferno, only 4, make a note of them and reisntall them afterward
[02:46] <hiexpo> trying to figure out how to install a driver /// pulling hair out > about bald
[02:46] <Beyondinferno> gotcha. thanks Pelo.
[02:46] <belal1> codebrainz:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/446389/ , it's it's a Microsoft Lifecam VX-3000
[02:46] <Pelo> hiexpo, which driver ?
[02:47] <hiexpo> peleg, for the awus036h
[02:47] <hiexpo> oops
[02:47] <Pelo> hiexpo, , ooo kkkk,  more basic, what is this a driver for ?
[02:47] <hiexpo> Pelo, for the awus036h
[02:48] <hiexpo> wireless dongle
[02:48] <Beyondinferno> Pelo, i've got 31 affected packages.... not 4. I Should just take note and reinstall all?
[02:48] <Pelo> hiexpo, that's the answer I was looking for
[02:49] <Beyondinferno> bikcmp! fancy seeing you here.
[02:49] <bikcmp> Beyondinferno: Oh hey :)
[02:49] <hiexpo> Pelo, i already have a wireless card working in my notebook but don't wanna brick it installing the new one
[02:49] <Pelo> Beyondinferno, before doing that ,  try doing a symple sudo apt-get install pakage name from a terminal , see if there is a simple error msg tellingyou how to fix it
[02:50] <Pelo> hiexpo, what's the file ending for the driver file ?
[02:50] <hiexpo> Pelo, heres the link to the patch i got
[02:50] <diane> hi all...just tring to install ubuntu along side win7 on a laptop and grub doesn't get picked up on boot unless the flash drive i used to install in plugged in.  any one know what i can do to make grub happy?
[02:50] <QBjEf> Mother fucking Jack here. ;)
[02:50] <comecum> Mother fucking Jack here. ;)
[02:50] <hiexpo> Pelo,  - http://forum.aircrack-ng.org/index.php?topic=5755.0
[02:51] <Pelo> diane, I'M guessing grub got installed on the flash drive instead of the hdd
[02:51] <Loshki> T1750: #ubuntu-offtopic is a good place to talk about nerd stuff...
[02:51] <skC> Mother fucking Jack here. ;)
[02:51] <diane> oh :(
[02:51] <diane> so i'll reinstall...
[02:51] <Beyondinferno> bikcmp, you feel like helping me out with a broken package issue?
[02:51] <bikcmp> Beyondinferno: Sure, go ahead
[02:52] <Pelo> hiexpo, which part is giving you trouble ?
[02:52] <hiexpo> !language | sk
[02:52] <Beyondinferno> alright, libdirectfb-dev shows broken
[02:52] <Pelo> diane,  ust before telling it to start installing , there is a button to  modify the install detail, you can specify the grub location from there
[02:52] <wise_cry1t> !info zinc
[02:53] <sinistrad> I've been trying to run e2fsck on a hard drive, but it pegs out my memory(4G) and swap(~9G) and crashes. I created a hdd cache and it ran most of the day, but locked up my system, and I don't know how far it got. Anyone have experience with this or can suggest a channel that might?
[02:53] <Pelo> hiexpo, sk is a troll,  probably jsut a bot
[02:53] <hiexpo> Pelo,  - sudo rmmod r8187 rtl8187 mac80211 cfg80211 because the last two  are being used by my other card
[02:53] <hiexpo> Pelo, that was an oops
[02:53] <urthmover> holy buckets
[02:53] <urthmover> that was nutso
[02:53] <h00k> !netsplit
[02:53] <Pelo> hiexpo, simple enoungh, don'T list the last two in the rmmod command
[02:54] <Pelo> hiexpo, still around ?
[02:54] <codebrainz> belal1, what is the output of    lsmod | grep sn9c102     with the camera plugged in
[02:54] <hiexpo> Pelo, yes but will it still work that way?
[02:55] <Pelo> hiexpo, I don'T see why it shouldn'T
[02:55] <hiexpo> ok will give it a bang
[02:56] <Pelo> hiexpo, at this point I'M just guessing, but this is how I would go about it myself,  worse case scenario it won't work but you won'T have removed the drivers you are  currently using
[02:56] <Trist_> Hey all.. maybe you can help..
[02:56] <Trist_> What 3 letters are used to indicate the month that the file /etc/motd was last updated?
[02:56] <SpazStatic> Loshki: hey, you there?
[02:57] <belal1> codebrainz:  it doesn't output anything.  that used to be my old usb webcam
[02:57] <Trist_> anyone?
[02:58] <Pelo> Trist_, I'd love to help but I'M not even sure I understand the question
[02:58] <codebrainz> belal1, what is the output of     lsmod | grep gspca
[02:59] <belal1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/446397/
[03:00] <Trist_> pelo, fair enough
[03:00] <codebrainz> Trist_, i believe it's with the date command, the b formatting sequence
[03:00] <codebrainz> man date
[03:01] <doggie015> is floodbot supposed to usually do that?
[03:01] <flappy> rc.kalulators.org
[03:01] <flappy> arf sry
[03:01] <Blue1> man ddate
[03:01] <codebrainz> belal1, you have the right driver
[03:02] <codebrainz> belal1, you are 100% positive the sound isn't muted or turned down?
[03:02] <belal1> so is the record volume low?
[03:02] <codebrainz> belal1, check it, in the sound preferences window
[03:02] <codebrainz> belal1, stuff tends to be muted by default for some reason sometimes
[03:02] <fluvvell> what do people recommend for an irc client in lucid ?
[03:02] <Sm3gal> xchat
[03:02] <codebrainz> fluvvell, xchat is nice
[03:03] <sinistrad> fluvvell, xchat here
[03:03] <fluvvell> codebrainz, thanks, I've always used it but a newbie was asking me.
[03:03] <h00k> fluvvell: irssi if you're comfortable with the command line
[03:03] <belal1> hmm... i checked again, it's not muted.  but for some reason, sound recorder doesn't seem to even move the levels on bottom.
[03:03] <ercula> if you want a gui one, i'd say xchat as well
[03:03] <fluvvell> h00k, thx :-)
[03:03] <FabioNote> hi peoples
[03:03] <etrask> Hello, when I installed Ubuntu 10.04 64-bit, the installer detected my install of WIndows XP Pro and added it to the grub list, however when I try to boot WIndows, the machine hangs with a flashing cursor in the top left of the screen. Can someone help me with this?
[03:04] <fluvvell> sinistrad; thanks
[03:04] <codebrainz> belal1, is the right input device selected in the sound preferences dialog?
[03:04] <FabioNote> i'm brazilian
[03:04] <belal1> yes, the webcam is selected.
[03:04] <sinistrad> fluvvell, Of course! Like someone else said, irssi is good if you use the command-line a lot.
[03:04]  * Blue1 checks
[03:04]  * Blue1 is maleish today.
[03:04] <doggie015> etrask, insert your windows CD, boot windows through it and run CHKDSK
[03:05] <etrask> doggie015: would BartPE work? Last time I tried to access the microsoft recovery console it ended up just reinstalling XP
[03:06] <liquidweaver> What is everyone's thoughts about the recent proprietary creep, like the lack of source for Ubuntu One, the Ubuntu One Music store, Landscape, etc....
[03:06] <Paddy_NI> etrask, can you boot to windows?
[03:06] <doggie015> You can use BartPE, just stick to disk repair tools
[03:06] <zifnab> liquidweaver, they removed sun-java6
[03:06] <zifnab> so
[03:06] <etrask> Paddy_NI I have not tried anything to get into windows short of selecting it in GRUB. Kinda disappointed this happened I have never had problems dual booting before
[03:06] <doggie015> I've used UBCD4win successfully to fix an unbootable windows install
[03:06] <zifnab> they should remove ubuntu one +-music store
[03:07] <h00k> also, see ##windows for windows support
[03:07] <Paddy_NI> etrask, meh I guess its good to be kept on your toes :)
[03:07] <liquidweaver> heh indeed
[03:07] <etrask> I will try that, thank you guys
[03:07] <doggie015> YW
[03:07] <codebrainz> liquidweaver, when it gets bad enough, switch to another distro :)  as long as it doesn't interfere with me using my system, i don't care though
[03:07] <duuh> r irc.hub4ever.org
[03:07] <duuh> fail
[03:09] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> Hello every 1 i am having trouble with audio for firefox audio the audio works for Movie player but not fire fox
[03:10] <doggie015> is your firefox install corrupt?
[03:10] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> no its runs fine
[03:10] <h00k> Ubuntu_and_Coffe: more specifically, is it flash audio?
[03:10] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> ya
[03:10] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> like videos
[03:10] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> that have audio
[03:11] <codebrainz> Ubuntu_and_Coffe, how did you install libflashplayer.so?
[03:13] <sinistrad> I've been trying to run e2fsck on a hard drive, but it pegs out my memory(4G) and swap(~9G) and crashes. I created a hdd cache and it ran most of the day, but locked up my system, and I don't know how far it got. Anyone have experience with this or can suggest a channel that might?
[03:14] <h00k> sinistrad: you might want to try ##linux as well if nobody here can help
[03:15] <sinistrad> Thanks h00k
[03:15] <h00k> sinistrad: I wish you luck :/
[03:15] <sinistrad> h00k, me too!
[03:16] <imthenachoman> how can i figure out what version of ubuntu i have? like hardy/lucid/karmic/etc ?
[03:16] <h00k> imthenachoman: lsb_release -a
[03:16] <wise_crypt> i'm trying to find a console based yahoo messenger, any idea ?
[03:16] <unbound> hey everybody
[03:16] <trism> wise_crypt: finch?
[03:17] <chris411nz> Can someone help with Xubuntu Grup Menu editing?
[03:17] <imthenachoman> h00k: ty
[03:17] <imthenachoman> so i installed django with apt-get, but now i cannot find where its installed....are there log files created by apt-get?
[03:18] <chris411nz> sorry Grub2 editing
[03:18] <chuy_max> I need to scan 100+ pages, is there an easy to use scanning software in the repos?
[03:18] <chuy_max> I don't want this to be a 100 hours project
[03:18] <h00k> imthenachoman: you can check the package details in Synaptic
[03:19] <wise_crypt> trism: does it support ym ?
[03:19] <h00k> imthenachoman: there's also a commandline version, but I don't remember offhand
[03:19] <imthenachoman> h00k: oh, i'm running server edition so no X, I'll figure it out
[03:20] <mechdave> imthenachoman, try the tab completion in the bash shell
[03:21] <imthenachoman> mechdave: ??/
[03:21] <mechdave> that is type dja <TAB KEY>
[03:21] <Gryllida> In software center, I hit 'install' for one of them, and nothing happens, no 'input password' window shows up — though it did work a bit ago — why and how to fix?
[03:21] <h00k> imthenachoman: apt-cache show django might help
[03:22] <mechdave> imthenachoman, I use it all the time to automatically complete commands on the command line
[03:22] <imthenachoman> mechdave: but that wont tell me where django files are installed
[03:22] <trism> wise_crypt: it uses libpurple so it supports everything pidgin does (which includes yahoo last time I checked)
[03:22] <imthenachoman> h00k: humm, let me see
[03:22] <mechdave> imthenachoman, Oh right, I got you now :)
[03:23] <hufx> hello all
[03:23] <Beyondinferno> Pelo, you got a sec?
[03:23] <Datz> what is ubottu?
[03:23] <h00k> !bot | Datz
[03:24] <Datz> what kind of bot?
[03:24] <Datz> infobot?
[03:24] <Datz> not depreciated infobot
[03:24] <Datz> thought it was a sypybot
[03:24] <h00k> Datz: it is a supybot
[03:24] <Datz> ah, nice
[03:25] <Beyondinferno> anyone feel like helping me with a broken package?
[03:25] <pakoz> Anyone have a guide for getting ubuntu as a VM in windows 7?  I've never used linux or any VM before.
[03:25] <codebrainz> Beyondinferno, which package?
[03:25] <wise_crypt> trism: thanks
[03:25] <codebrainz> pakoz, google
[03:25] <Beyondinferno> libdirectfb-dev
[03:25] <rokyk> hmm...so I need some help. I just bought a laptop today and when I try and boot arch linux to install its sits and hangs on "kerne_thread_helper" and never moves. Is there something I'm doing wrong here
[03:26] <pakoz> codebrainz, i'd like personal input :)
[03:26] <codebrainz> Beyondinferno, sudo apt-get install --reinstall libdirectdb-dev
[03:26] <Beyondinferno> i've tried apt-get install, apt-get -f install, autoclean, clean and no dice
[03:26] <Callum__> rokyk: you will haveto go ask that question in Arch Linux support channel
[03:26] <codebrainz> pakoz, get VirtualBox from sun, download ubuntu iso, boot in vm, tada!
[03:26] <celeritas> pakoz, windows 7 is not as relevant to vm installation as much as which vm you are planning on using. depending on what vm you are using, there are various tutorials on the installation of ubuntu
[03:26] <rokyk> hmm...so I need some help. I just bought a laptop today and when I try and boot ubuntu to install its sits and hangs on "kerne_thread_helper" and never moves. Is there something I'm doing wrong here.
[03:27] <Callum__> that's better =P
[03:27] <rokyk> and callum__ I actually meant to post it here. The same issue is happening with ubuntu...as well
[03:27] <codebrainz> Beyondinferno, did you read what i typed?
[03:27] <pakoz> Thanks @codebrainz & @celeritas
[03:27] <rokyk> Callum__ which is really whats throwing me off.
[03:27] <Callum__> hmm, expected as much... suspend to RAM and suspend to disk don't work under proprietary NVIDIA driver. oh well
[03:27] <h00k> pakoz: this might help: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Virtualbox_in_Windows
[03:27] <h00k> Callum__: which video card do you have?
[03:27] <codebrainz> Callum__, I think mine does?
[03:27] <h00k> Callum__: I'm using the nvidia driver and don't have any problems
[03:28] <codebrainz> i don't hibernate much, but i think it works
[03:28] <Callum__> h00k: NVIDIA Geforce4 420 Go, using latest legacy NVIDIA drivers. I didn't expect it to work, nor would I think it would so its fine
[03:28] <pcfreak30> Hello, I am using a live usb of ubuntu. For some reason I can't get my mic working properly. Any assistance
[03:28] <T1750> hahaha
[03:28] <Callum__> just got the driver working anyway
[03:29] <pcfreak30> its btw
[03:29] <h00k> Callum__: okay :)
[03:29] <pcfreak30> 10.04*
[03:29] <Appl6> Beyondinferno: dpkg -C
[03:29] <Callum__> have to use custom EDID and all this crap to get it to work at all lol
[03:29] <h00k> Callum__: if you don't need the 3d acceleration, you can also use nouveau
[03:29] <T1750> i just commented out that stupid exception now im leeching i with everyones wifi at once and 2 cdma dongles
[03:29]  * T1750 watches the iso rocket in
[03:29] <Callum__> under proprietary driver
[03:29] <Callum__> h00k: I specifically use proprietary driver for 3D acceleration =P
[03:30] <Callum__> and multi-monitor
[03:30] <codebrainz> Callum__, write to nvidia about how much of a pain their proprietary driver was for you, the customer
[03:30] <codebrainz> if enough people .... naw
[03:30] <Beyondinferno> codebrainz, i'm getting this after apt-get -f install -http://paste.ubuntu.com/446415/
[03:30] <pakoz> thanks @hook
[03:30] <pakoz> err h00k*
[03:30] <Callum__> codebrainz: they won't listen to somone having problems with such an old chipset
[03:30] <chris411nz> Chuy_max have ya seen Sane in repos?
[03:30] <Hdale85> how do you install packages that require a restart on the live cd? lol
[03:31] <Gryllida> Please say how can I restart software center without rebooting the whole os. now I hit 'install' button and it does not prompt for root password though it did about an hour ago
[03:31] <h00k> Callum__: gotcha :)
[03:31] <FlameTai1> Guys I'm having some troubles, I'm trying to bring krandrtray up
[03:31] <FlameTai1>  It acts like it's going to load and then disappears?
[03:31] <Hdale85> ok guys, is there a way to chroot into my root partition on my hard drive with network support from the live cd?
[03:31] <anthony> hi to all guys
[03:31] <h00k> !hi | anthony
[03:31] <Hdale85> I've got internet up and working on the live cd but when I chroot in I ccan't use it
[03:32] <Callum__> codebrainz: I COULD write to them about how much of a hassle SLI is at getting to work though
[03:32] <codebrainz> Beyondinferno, looks like a package bug maybe.  try downloading the .deb for libdirectfb-extra and installing it
[03:32] <kraxbox> hola q tal buenas noches
[03:32] <Beyondinferno> Appl6 i'm getting this when trying -f install -http://paste.ubuntu.com/446415/
[03:32] <h00k> !es | kraxbox
[03:32] <codebrainz> Callum__, if it wasn't proprietary, we would support they old hardware for them, for free :)
[03:32] <Callum__> lol yeah
[03:32] <Appl6> Beyondinferno: It looks like you're trying to install libdirectfb-extra, not -dev.  Is that true?
[03:32] <chuy_max> chris411nz, I've used it before, but I don't remember if I can easily add pages to a document, instead of scanning-seeing the image-saving, new scan-> see image->save image, and so on
[03:32] <goodtime_> heres what i wonder and think about
[03:32] <chuy_max> I would like this to be a very fast process
[03:33] <FlameTai1> Guys I'm having some troubles, I'm trying to bring krandrtray up
[03:33] <FlameTai1>  It acts like it's going to load and then disappears?
[03:33] <othniel> yeah i have been trying to chat on gochatgo.com but i cant seem to give priviliges to my cam i cant press accept or deny it just is unclickable any suggestions
[03:33] <othniel>  ?
[03:33] <kraxbox> ok grax no me di cuenta del canal saludos
[03:33] <goodtime_> when does linux just come out with the ultimate os
[03:33] <h00k> !ot | goodtime_
[03:33] <Callum__> anyway, loving Ubuntu 10.04 LTS so far
[03:33] <Gryllida> help!
[03:34] <goodtime_> my ram keeps topin out
[03:34] <codebrainz> goodtime_, topping out?
[03:34] <goodtime_> yeah
[03:34] <Beyondinferno> i'm trying -dev but it keeps showing up with -extra
[03:34] <goodtime_> peakin out
[03:34] <h00k> !crosspost | goodtime_
[03:34] <sebsebseb> !ask | Gryllida
[03:34] <goodtime_> ok
[03:34] <Beyondinferno> Appl6 i'm trying -dev but it keeps showing up with -extra
[03:34] <Gryllida> sebsebseb, Please say how can I restart software center without rebooting the whole os. now I hit 'install' button and it does not prompt for root password though it did about an hour ago
[03:34] <codebrainz> goodtime_, are you noticing poor performance?
[03:35] <goodtime_> man its a busy little place here
[03:35] <pcfreak30> Could sopmeone please help me configure my mic. its a standard jack mic in the bacxk of the towser. using audacity, i cant even record. it does pick up though in the sound settings, but i still cant hear what i say...
[03:35] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: close the program and re open?
[03:35] <anthony> hi guys i think now i know why ubuntu 10.04 and other distro are not working on my computer i think it is because of the kernel the new version of the kernel because all the distro who still don't use the new version i can use them.. hope the linux kernel will be fix in the new vertion so that i can use the ubuntu 10.10
[03:35] <goodtime_> no im runnin good for now were i used to just freeze
[03:35] <h00k> anthony: what exactly is 'not working' ?
[03:35] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: doesn't solve the issue, I already tried
[03:36] <goodtime_> oh a bot is here
[03:36] <goodtime_> cool
[03:36] <anthony> it does not boot
[03:36] <codebrainz> goodtime_, the kernel will use all of your ram as much as it can in the best way possible.  if you're not using the ram, he will
[03:36] <codebrainz> goodtime_, mostly for cache and junk
[03:36] <anthony> the live cd is not working on my computer
[03:36] <goodtime_> oic ok
[03:36] <goodtime_> i need more ram
[03:36] <goodtime_> lol
[03:36] <h00k> goodtime_: This page has some good information on how Linux uses ram: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[03:37] <goodtime_> sweet
[03:37] <codebrainz> hahaha
[03:37] <Appl6> Beyondinferno: Pastebin 20 lines or so after the "Package: libdirectfb-extra" line in /var/lib/dpkg/status.  Also, run sudo dpkg -C and pastebin the results (if any).
[03:37] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: ok lets make sure it closes properly,   applications > assessoreis > terminal   type in xkill hit enter and then click on software centre
[03:37] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: then open again and try and use it
[03:37] <codebrainz> h00k, awesome that someone made a site for that!
[03:37] <celeritas> anthony, have you tried noacpi?
[03:37] <anthony> what is noacpi
[03:37] <h00k> codebrainz: it is nice :)
[03:38] <goodtime_> hahaha 31 by prograhms and 55 by cache
[03:38] <goodtime_> %
[03:38] <anthony> how can i use it
[03:38] <Beyondinferno> Appl6 dpkg: parse error, in file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 24703 package 'libdirectfb-extra':
[03:38] <Beyondinferno>  missing version
[03:38] <T1750> anthony: don't use some hardware protocol thing that some systems have problem with
[03:38] <celeritas> when you are booting ubuntu, try adding that to the grub command line. might help you boot up
[03:38] <T1750> it's to do with things like the power button imho
[03:38] <Nautilus> whats the right way to upgrade FF in 8.04 LTS? Using Synaptic?
[03:38] <T1750> s/imho/iirc/
[03:39] <ronx> any ubuntu network gurus have a second to help me figure out why i can't connect to my home network after downgrading from lucid to karmic?
[03:39] <anthony> what can i do i us a laptop
[03:39] <celeritas> certain kernels have conflicts with certain laptops
[03:39] <sebsebseb> Nautilus: nope
[03:39] <xangua> Nautilus: just wait, canonocial is preparing a major upgrade for the very first time for the next version of firefox incluiing hardy, intrepid, jaunty and finally lucid
[03:39] <sebsebseb> xangua: you sure about that?
[03:39] <Appl6> Beyondinferno: What about the lines from /var/lib/dpkg/status?
[03:39] <sebsebseb> xangua: got a link or something to confirm?
 what is noacpi
[03:40] <Nautilus> xangua: ahhh.  Really I just want to turn on firebug, but it mentioned there is a new firefox (I have 3.0).  Can I just turn firebug on in Synaptic?
[03:40] <sebsebseb> Nautilus: I don't think what xangua is saying is true, espesailly since intrepid is end of life now
[03:40] <Beyondinferno> Appl6 -http://paste.ubuntu.com/446419/
[03:40] <sebsebseb> Nautilus: there will be a ppa for a later Firefox version for 8.04 I expect
[03:40] <mechdave> imthenachoman,  Have a look here for the list of files installed --> http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/all/python-django/filelist
[03:40] <crdlb> sebsebseb: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2010-June/000719.html
[03:41] <sebsebseb> crdlb: oh
[03:41] <codebrainz> Beyondinferno, if you stop putting a dash infront of that href, we can just click on it!
[03:41] <celeritas> anthony: noacpi keeps the kernel from using internal features of the mb that handle the power button, fans etc. the system will still function but the os will have no control over these features. hence, your mb will handle most of those features. you can use noacpi to boot the distro and then modify the installation until you get a working system
[03:41] <Beyondinferno> codebrainz, it would let me post links....
[03:41] <diane> hi
[03:41] <Beyondinferno> sorry
[03:41] <codebrainz> Beyondinferno, what package are you trying to install that needs directfb?
[03:41] <Appl6> Beyondinferno: That's extremely weird.  If you'll notice, it has "Vers)on" instead of "Version".  Try fixing that with an editor.
[03:41] <Beyondinferno> codebrainz would *not let me
[03:41] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: just 'xkill'? without parameters?
[03:42] <chalk> how can i fix bad sectors in my harddrive?
[03:42] <imthenachoman> mechdave: ty sir
[03:42] <codebrainz> Appl6, good eye
[03:42] <T1750> chalk: you can't!
[03:42] <datakid> ok, I deleted a user and re added the same user. Now I have a bunch of files owned by "109" instead of "joeblogs"
[03:42] <Beyondinferno> Appl6 lol thats great....
[03:42] <chalk> oh my, now i need to buy a harddrive
[03:42] <T1750> chalk: they're bad, but you can fsck -y /device to make them not be used anymore
[03:42] <datakid> how do I chown them all>? How do I find htem all?
[03:42] <mechdave> imthenachoman, No worries :) http://packages.ubuntu.com is always a good resource to use for this kinda thing :)
[03:42] <h00k> !badblocks
[03:42] <sebsebseb> Nautilus: the link crdlb  gave me does not say for Intrepid by the way
[03:42] <T1750> chalk: i've had several die on me this week including one in a raid *0* array
[03:42] <sebsebseb> chalk: yes just xkill
[03:42] <xangua> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/06/firefox-364-to-be-pushed-to-ubuntu.html sebsebseb Nautilus well not intrepid at least ; you can also try the firefox stable PPA https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable
[03:43] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: yes just xkill
[03:43] <h00k> chalk: http://linux.die.net/man/8/badblocks
[03:43] <crdlb> sebsebseb: good thing he's using 8.04 then :)
[03:43] <h00k> T1750: also, ^
[03:43] <diane> just want to say thx to the guy who helped here me out with ubuntu installing grub on my flash drive rather than the HD.  yes its a setting in install buried away where i would never have found it so.... next time you're in vancouver i owe you a beer :)
[03:43] <Appl6> datakid: "man find", see the section on -uid
[03:43] <SoftwareExplorer> datakid: I think you need to also delete the group for the old user and then add the new user and make sure it has the right group number
[03:43] <Beyondinferno> Appl6 and codebrainz thanks a ton!
[03:43] <Nautilus> thanks guys
[03:43] <T1750> you can keep using your hd with your badblocks list if you like, but if you are geting bad blocks maybe its time the hd went on ebay
[03:43] <chalk> thanks T1750
[03:43] <chalk> thanks h00k
[03:44] <datakid> SoftwareExplorer, old group no longer in /etc/group so I think I'm safe
[03:44] <codebrainz> T1750, jerk ... hahaha
[03:44] <datakid> Appl6, cheers, I'll look into it
[03:44] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: done, it still won't work
[03:44] <codebrainz> T1750, so you're the guy that sold me that...
[03:44] <hiexpo> lol
[03:44] <con-man> whats the debian for mythtv media server
[03:44] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: maybe an non-window process of it stuck in the processes, idk
[03:44] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: there are other ways to install software as well :) however Software Centre should work
[03:44] <con-man> cant find it on the repositories
[03:44] <anthony> celeritas: yes i think i already try it but when i boot up the live cd then install ubuntu 10.04 it will not boot i don't know how to modify it when installing can you help me i really what to use ubuntu 10.04
[03:44] <Jordan_U> diane: That was Pelo (who quit a while ago)
[03:45] <SoftwareExplorer> datakid: So, now you need to make sure that the new user has the same group number (Which is 109) as the files.
[03:45] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: is this the first time it happended or?
[03:45] <h00k> con-man: aptitude search mythtv
[03:45] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: you made it sound liek before a re boot fixes it, right, but then you get it again?
[03:45] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: Xkill asked me to point to it by mouse, while if it didn't close properly first time, it could have left an invisible process, which I'm unable to xkill
[03:45] <celeritas> anthony, did ubuntu install grub correctly?
[03:45] <SpaceDude> hello
[03:45] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: "you made it sound liek before a re boot fixes it, right, but then you get it again?" true
[03:45] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: yes with xkill you click on the app you want to close
[03:45] <anthony> yes it is
[03:46] <T1750> chalk: if i were you, and h00k may be much smarter than me, but if your data is important to you and your hd is developing bad blocks (it does this over time naturally there are some reserved in manufacture to silently replace the bad ones) well if they have all run out and now you are still losing blocks .... well me i wouldn't use that HD anymore
[03:46] <diane> jordan u....yeah right...well in the interest of full disclosure i'm setting this computer up for my friend diane... IRL  i'm guy and not to attractive but say thanks for me next time you see him.
[03:46] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> Hello every 1 i am having problems with audio for flash videos and online music i cant hear the audio but the flash playes
[03:46] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: ok what about installing software from Synaptic that works or?
[03:46] <SoftwareExplorer> datakid: It's probably a good idea to have the new user have the same user number and group number.
[03:46] <anthony> celeritas: yes it install correctly but it does not boot
[03:46] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: It works after a reboot, then something (?) happens, and it stops working, this happened two times already
[03:46] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: I'm not in sudoers group, can't launch synaptic
[03:46] <codebrainz> Ubuntu_and_Coffe, find and delete all instances of libflashplayer.so on your system and reinstall the newest flash player for linux
[03:47] <datakid> SoftwareExplorer, is there anyway to force this?
[03:47] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: oh
[03:47] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: ah ha
[03:47] <h00k> chalk: I would also be wary if you're getting a high number of them, also try an fsck on the drive
[03:47] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: that could be why software centre doesn't seem to work either
[03:47] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: what should I do?
[03:47] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> kk
[03:47] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: you will need sudo access or you can't install software
[03:47] <celeritas> anthony, did you try editing the grub command of the installed ubuntu at boot time. after selecting the version of ubuntu you want to boot, press e to edit the command. then add the noacpi option to the kernel line
[03:47] <h00k> T1750: yeah, that seems about right
[03:47] <Jordan_U> anthony: You can hold shift during boot to add the noacpi kernel parameter there, then once booted make it permanent with "gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub" (edit GRUB_LINUX_CMDLINE in the window that comes up) then "sudo update-grub"
[03:48] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: But it worked after a reboot fine, asked for password and I installed abiword, so it does after every reboot
[03:48] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> codebrainz can i use firefox to uninstall addons
[03:48] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: lets see if you can install something from the terminal,  either think of something to install yourself,  or you could use abiword for example  sudo apt-get install abiword
[03:48] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: oh
[03:48] <T1750> h00k: suppose if you had a use for a volatile cache it would be ok
[03:48] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: already done Abiword which I was using as an example, well gnumeric goes nicely with Abiwrod
[03:48] <diane> anyway i'm out of here but.... to all you ubuntistas  thanks a lot... you're changing the world.  :)
[03:48] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: spreadsheet app
[03:48] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> o wait nvm
[03:48] <chalk> h00k & T1750 http://paste.ubuntu.com/446421/
[03:48] <T1750> bet google uses em
[03:48] <codebrainz> Ubuntu_and_Coffe, no, go and find the libflashplayer.so file (like uder ~/.mozilla and /usr/lib/mozilla and simiar)
[03:48] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> k
[03:49] <codebrainz> Ubuntu_and_Coffe, or use the GUI to search for that filename
[03:49] <SoftwareExplorer> datakid: If you go to System > Administration > Users that's where you change most of this. The problem is that two groups or user's can't have the same number, so you just have to change the numbers on the group that has the number you want and then assign that number to the correct group
[03:49] <anthony> ok i will try i hope it will work this time...
[03:49] <adum> can anyone recommend a high quality motherboard manufacturer that is consistantly compatible/works well in ubuntu?
[03:49] <h00k> chalk: for /device, you're going to replace that with your harddrive, for instance: /dev/sda1 or /dev/hda1
[03:49] <Beyondinferno> Appl6 and codebrainz i'm still getting errors....
[03:49] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: ok so we know software centre won't work now
[03:49] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> no files found
[03:49] <con-man> Seriously. I have 8 cores running at 3.85 GHz each, 6 gigs of 1600 MHz DDR3 Ram, and two solid state drives striped in a raid 0 array. My whole computer can boot in under 20 seconds; and yet I STILL CANT STREAM VIDEO. Lags every 2 seconds.!
[03:49] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: give the termianl a try to install an app, lets find out if that works
[03:50] <xangua> adum: and that's why #ubuntu-offtopic exist ;)
[03:50] <hufx> con-man: try vlc
[03:50] <Beyondinferno> con-man streaming via web or lan
[03:50] <codebrainz> Ubuntu_and_Coffe, you searched your system for libflashplayer.so and it says no file found?
[03:50] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> yes sir
[03:50] <datakid> SoftwareExplorer, I"m on cli only slicehost :)
[03:50]  * T1750 has SERIOUSLY screwed up some HD's and raid configs before so may be of help if you gety stuck but will be going to bed in about 10 minutes and h00k seems to know his thing
[03:50] <codebrainz> Ubuntu_and_Coffe, then you don't have flash installed
[03:50] <celeritas> con-man, have you checked you net drivers?
[03:50] <h00k> T1750: meh, kinda/sorta :)
[03:50] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> but then how can i play videos on youtube with out sound
[03:51]  * T1750 also uses an openeed quantum fireball with the platters bent upward into bowls as an ashtray
[03:51] <Beyondinferno> codebrainz you see my message?
[03:51] <codebrainz> Ubuntu_and_Coffe, i had success downloading the one from adobe, the tarball and just placing the libflashplayer.so in the firefox plgin dir
[03:51] <chalk> h00k, i can't because it's mounted (what i'm booting on)
[03:51] <nits> i have a problem with quodlibet, this is the output i get wen i run it on the terminal nits@nits-desktop:~$ quodlibet
[03:51] <nits> Initializing audio backend (gstbe)
[03:51] <nits> Initializing main library (~/.quodlibet/songs)
[03:51] <nits> Supported formats: mod, mp3, mp4, mpc, spc, trueaudio, wav, wavpack, wma, xiph
[03:51] <nits> Traceback (most recent call last):
[03:51] <FloodBot4> nits: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:51] <nits>   File "/usr/bin/quodlibet", line 285, in <module>
[03:52] <codebrainz> Beyondinferno, no
[03:52] <SoftwareExplorer> datakid: Ah, I see. Well, I don't know how you change what user has what number, but someone else probably does. The part about two users or groups not being able to have the same number at the same time still applies though.
[03:52] <con-man> celeritas, hufx, Beyondinferno:  VLC can stream to a PS3?  It's a wired not wireless, private network and what do you mean "checked my net drivers"
[03:52] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> i will go ahead and try dat
[03:52] <h00k> chalk: can you boot from a liveCD/USB?
[03:52] <chalk> h00k: i wouldn't risk it because i get bad blocks when booting
[03:52] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> tar.gz?
[03:52] <Beyondinferno> codebrainz i'm getting the same response with reinstall
[03:52] <chalk> h00k: and turning on the computer
[03:53] <Beyondinferno> codebrainz even after fixing the typo in status
[03:53] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> o
[03:53] <nits> quodlibet error this is the message i get wen i run it in the terminal
[03:53] <nits> http://paste.ubuntu.com/446423/
[03:53] <codebrainz> Beyondinferno, what are you trying to install that needs directfb?
[03:53] <con-man> brb guys
[03:53] <Beyondinferno> nothing
[03:53] <datakid> SoftwareExplorer, yeah, I think I'll just do a quick bash script with find
[03:53] <datakid> cheers
[03:53] <h00k> chalk: Booting from the CDROM/USB will be safe from your disk because it's not using your HDD
[03:53] <anthony> Jordan_U: is this the thing that i need to pass to the gedit that will popup "GRUB_LINUX_CMDLINE"
[03:53] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: sudo apt-get install <appnamehere> returns "user is not in sudoers group"
[03:54] <Beyondinferno> i just had a couple lockups and it won't let me update anything
[03:54] <con-man> sorry guys I dropped there;  celeritas, hufx, Beyondinferno:  VLC can stream to a PS3?  It's a wired not wireless, private network and what do you mean "checked my net drivers"
[03:54] <chalk> h00k, will it matter one what distribution on what liveCD i'm using?
[03:54] <Beyondinferno> codebrainz i just had a couple lockups and it won't let me update anything
[03:54] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> ok now do i place the file in extensions , plugins or search plugins
[03:54] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: ok thats the problem
[03:54] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: thinks your not  in that group
[03:54] <Jordan_U> anthony: Whatever you added to get the CD to boot is what you need to add at the grub menu
[03:54] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: have you only got one account on there?
[03:54] <nits> quodlibet error, i run it in the terminal and i get this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/446423/ please help
[03:54] <codebrainz> Beyondinferno, maybe try  apt-get remove --purge directfb && apt-get autoremove --purge   (which will remove directfb completely)
[03:55] <Beyondinferno> codebrainz xbmc is broken among other things (chromium, firefox)
[03:55] <codebrainz> Beyondinferno, ah, xbmc prolly uses directfb
[03:55] <mechdave> Is supertux a kids game?
[03:55] <Beyondinferno> codebrainz it showed like 31 dependencies
[03:55] <h00k> chalk: it shouldn't, no
[03:55] <sebsebseb> !info supertux
[03:55] <chalk> h00k, ok then
[03:56] <h00k> chalk: but I'd recommend that
[03:56] <sebsebseb> mechdave: see above at bot
[03:56] <codebrainz> Beyondinferno, you had orphaned packages in your pastebin, it's wanting to pull those and anything else that depends on directfb
[03:56] <sebsebseb> mechdave: give it a try even, nice app
[03:56] <sebsebseb> mechdave: there are quite a few apps in the repo with Tux though, that are really for kids
[03:56] <anthony> Jordan_U: thank man for giving me hope. i just get some home because of it thx...
[03:56] <con-man> any ideas anyone?
[03:56] <sebsebseb> mechdave: they are good also
[03:56] <Beyondinferno> codebrainz i'm just concerned about all my settings for xbmc and such...
[03:56] <mechdave> sebsebseb, thanks, got it running, very neat... but rather hard in the higher levels :)
[03:57] <anthony> thx to ubuntu community your the best guys....
[03:57] <mechdave> sebsebseb, Thanks shall have a look
[03:57] <celeritas> con-man, maybe you have the wrong drivers for your nic
[03:57] <Jordan_U> anthony: You're welcome.
[03:57] <anthony> thx
[03:57] <sebsebseb> mechdave: whilst on about Tux apps though, Tuxpaint is rather nice :)
[03:57] <anthony> bye i need to format my computer bye
[03:57] <sebsebseb> mechdave: an theres supertux kart or wahtever raceing game and  so on
[03:57] <Chriz> how come websites render different on localhost compared to uploading it to a domain?
[03:57] <codebrainz> Beyondinferno, use your own discretion.  it sounds like a bug in that one directfb-extra package though
[03:58] <nits> i need some help with quodlibet i get this error wen i run the quodlibet through the terminal http://paste.ubuntu.com/446423/
[03:58] <Beyondinferno> codebrainz but i'm in no position to make a choice like this! lol
[03:58] <codebrainz> nits, it looks like you're probably missing a library that supports the type of thing you're trying to open
[03:58] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: still about?
[03:58] <mechdave> my goodness, lots of tux games on packages.ubuntu.com, I'm in heaven :)
[03:58] <con-man> celeritas, how would one check this?
[03:58] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: two, me (desktop user) and another one (administrator), but me was able to use software center fine until it broke suddenly, then I rebooted, then it broke again after some time
[03:58] <nits> it opened just fine till yesterday codebrainz
[03:59] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe>  ok now i got the .so file where do i place the file in extensions , plugins or search plugins
[03:59] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: why two accounts?
[03:59] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: when it worked, it prompted for password
[03:59] <codebrainz> Beyondinferno, download the .deb for the package that's flaking out from the ubuntu site and see if it installs
[03:59] <codebrainz> Beyondinferno, better yet, find a newer version
[03:59] <datakid> Hah! SoftwareExplorer http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/find-files-that-do-not-have-any-owners-or-do-not-belong-to-any-user-under-linuxunix/
[03:59] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: because I don't think it ok to go to www with administrator account, it it?
[03:59] <SoftwareExplorer> Chriz: If they have a php script or something like that in them, then it wouldn't execute if you are having your browser read it straight off the hardrive.
[03:59] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: yeah I thought you done like WIndows
[03:59] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: well this is not Windows :)
[03:59] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: um, what is the proper way to do it?
[03:59] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: in Windows yes should only have an admin account, that is used when really need it, otherwise use a limited acocunt
[04:00] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: yes I've been using windows ffor 10 years, installed ubuntu just yesterday
[04:00] <SoftwareExplorer> datakid: Cool. So I'm assuming you got it fixed then?
[04:00] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: with Ubuntu and other Linux distros,   its fine to use a standard user account, which is what  your administrater account is
[04:00] <Chriz> SoftwareExplorer, I mean the site actually renders differently (sizes/fonts/etc are messed up) I have a lamp setup under ubuntu
[04:00] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: what is the proper way to do it? make me administrator and go to www?
[04:00] <datakid> SoftwareExplorer, well, I've found how to fix it :) Now for the fixin'
[04:01] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: well your administraoter account is the one you should be using really, since sudo
[04:01] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> ok now i got the .so file where do i place the file in extensions , plugins or search plugins
[04:01] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: sudo makes you become admin, but only for the task you are doing
[04:01] <jcp> I cannot for the life of me get my webcam to work on ubuntu 10.04. It hasn't worked on any previous versions, either. It's a webcam built in to my sony vaio vgn-fz298ce.
[04:01] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: or root as it would be called more properly when talking LInux distros
[04:01] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: ok thank you
[04:01] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: you can change the
[04:01] <jcp> Anyone have any suggestions?
[04:02] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: permissions for what the desktop user account can do, you can set it up so it can sudo as well
[04:02] <jcp> (and yes, I have tried google, and it didn't help)
[04:02] <celeritas> con-man, lspci should give you the recognized name of your nic, which should match the actual nic version. if you see a major difference in the driver being used, see if you can find the correct drivers for the nic. then just compile and install
[04:02] <Beyondinferno> codebrainz how do i force install a package?
[04:02] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> ok now i got the .so file where do i place the file in extensions , plugins or search plugins
[04:03] <SoftwareExplorer> Chriz: Does the browser show the same source code for the pages from the different places?
[04:03] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: that can be done using commands, or easilly graphicalley
[04:03] <codebrainz> Beyondinferno, the deb?  there should be a gui or dpkg -i the_package
[04:04] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: so graphically you can give it the same permissions as what the administrator account has, then you can sudo and such with that account
[04:04] <codebrainz> nits, this issue has been resolved in the program http://code.google.com/p/quodlibet/source/detail?spec=svn418e5925d54028bd3deaf691b90d6b86a947f18a&r=d2622cab934c9501857f1777a4cc93c12eba12e0
[04:04] <Chriz> SoftwareExplorer, all except for the links that are returned
[04:04] <Beyondinferno> codebrainz i just launched the deb and it's giving dependency errors too
[04:04] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: but I indicated just 1 password during the install
[04:04] <vuqnguyen> jnbj
[04:04] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: looks like it's both root and 1sr-user-on-the-os password
[04:04] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: right, but you made a second account after install?
[04:05] <codebrainz> nits, fix in this: http://code.google.com/p/quodlibet/issues/detail?id=461
[04:05] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: can these be different
[04:05] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: yes I made a second account too
[04:05] <vuqnguyen> hello
[04:05] <SoftwareExplorer> Chriz: In that case, I not sure why it's different.
[04:05] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: changing passwords for accounts is easy as well
[04:05] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: what should I do - relogin and work from under adminstrator (the 1st-that-I made during the install) or just change this account type to admin?
[04:06] <Chriz> SoftwareExplorer,  is it possible to remerge my entire system?
[04:06] <nits> codebrainz : thanks man was just a corrupted config file coz of a powercut i had yesterday thune3 helped me figure it out thanks man :)
[04:06] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: did you use the graphical users and groups program when you made your second user?
[04:06] <Gryllida> yes
[04:06] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> ok now i got the .so file where do i place the file in extensions , plugins or search plugins
[04:06] <codebrainz> nits, no worries
[04:06] <sebsebseb> Gryllida:  ok well that is how you change the permissions for your desktop user graphicalley
[04:06] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: however it should have the same rights as what your admin account currently has
[04:06] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: so I would end up in administrator and me users, both of type 'admin'?
[04:06] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: and to see that I guess you would have to log in to the account
[04:07] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: sure I agree with the latter line
[04:07] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: you would turn the desktop user account into one that can also use sudo and such
[04:07] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: what would the 1st account be for then?
[04:07] <SoftwareExplorer> Chriz: I don't know.
[04:07] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: or  you could just use that account all the time
[04:07] <Datz> hi, does anyone know the plugin that ubottu uses to address nicks with factoids?
[04:08] <Datz> !ubottu | Datz
[04:08] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: you don't need two accounts, at the moment if ever depending on what your going to be doing, this isn't Windows
[04:08] <Datz> something like that...
[04:08] <Datz> !docs | Datz
[04:08] <T1750> i guess that exception really did matter cause commenting it out broke the ISO :)
[04:09] <T1750> a multiple connection download program that won't multiple connect is stupid though.
[04:09]  * T1750 now here for 20 more minutes
[04:09] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: most Ubuntu users, use the account that is set up after install
[04:10]  * T1750 snapshotted the iso file and copied the aria metadata b4 experiment should still be able to finish with success
[04:10] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: and then only create other accounts  on the computer,  for other computer users
[04:10] <ronx> question guys.... i'm downgrading from lucid to karmic, and the most recent kernel didn't seem to want to run on reinstalled karmic... so i changed to GRUB_DEFAULT=4 (from 0) and things are working now...
[04:10] <defendguin> how do you fix it so that you never had to put in your keyring password for your wireless to connect?
[04:10] <T1750> sebsebseb: having an account to build packages is a good idea
[04:11] <jrib> ronx: how are you downgrading exactly?
[04:11] <T1750> more so with rpm
[04:11] <ronx> however, when i apt-get upgrade, it doesn't seem to want to upgrade linux-headers-generic
[04:11] <T1750> but even with deb
[04:11] <h00k> defendguin: do you have automatic login enabled?
[04:11] <sebsebseb> T1750: ok maybe so, but most users of Ubuntu won't be doing that
[04:11] <ronx> jrib: i used 9.10 install disk
[04:11] <defendguin> h00k yeah
[04:11] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: it _was_ setup but I seem to have reset it, by clicking «set it to administrator type» when making a new one, can I reset its privileges to what is the default in some way?
[04:11] <ronx> and some instructions i found on a blog somewhere
[04:11] <jrib> ronx: so you are doing a fresh install then?
[04:11] <ronx> not quite... i used custom partitions
[04:11] <ronx> and didn't change anything
[04:11] <jrib> ronx: what partitions?
[04:11] <h00k> defendguin: that's why, and as far as I know, you'd have to set manual login (enter a password to login) to get around that
[04:11] <T1750> sebsebseb: you're right, they'd be using another distro j/k
[04:12] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: you can give the  desktop account the default prividlges graphically, what admin account currently has, thats quite easy to do graphically
[04:12] <ronx> http://www.khattam.info/2010/03/15/howto-downgrading-from-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx-to-9-10-karmic-koala/
[04:12] <ronx> that's what i used
[04:12] <defendguin> h00k that's not good for a computer I am using as a server
[04:12] <jrib> ronx: you understand downgrading is not supported?
[04:12] <ronx> my previous setup was really simple... everything on / and then swap
[04:12] <ronx> sure
[04:12] <h00k> defendguin: er, why not?
[04:12] <defendguin> i don't wanna have to turn it's monitor on every time
[04:12] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: however you will need to be in the admin account, to change the desktop account privildges
[04:12] <theadmin> ronx, we don't support downgrading so if it broke something do not complain
[04:12] <ronx> looking for "unofficial" support hehe
[04:12] <ronx> not complaining at all
[04:13] <ronx> and nothing is really broken
[04:13] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: But after the install, I remember the 1st-account having some level of privileges different from 'administrator', it was called 'customized', how do I get what it was?
[04:13] <Zeu5> hi all  i have googled around for some time. but i cannot seem to find an answer. i have exported a filezilla settings into a .xml file from my windows. how do i import that into my filezilla in ubuntu? i am running filezilla client
[04:13] <ronx> just looking for the best way to update kernel
[04:13] <theadmin> ronx: What is the real problem you have? (I just joined)
[04:13] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: customized?
[04:13] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: yes
[04:13] <Aeroraptor> So I'm about to install ubuntu on my laptop again. I have 4GB RAM and am wondering if I should go with the 64bit version instead of the 32 to be able to access the extra ~700MB of RAM. I won't be doint anything that requires that much RAM but being able to access it could be nice. Thoughts?
[04:13] <ronx> when i apt-get upgrade, it says my linux-headers-generic are kept back
[04:13] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: the word 'administrator' was surely not there for 1st account, it was me who set iut
[04:13] <ronx> because i had to modify my grub config to point to an older kernel
[04:13] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: oh I think I know what you mean,  using another distro at the moment, but i'll load up an Ubuntu virtual machine, so I can explain what I mean properly and what not
[04:13] <Gryllida> it
[04:13] <jrib> ronx: update-manager updates the kernel automatically.  If you want to use apt-get, then you need to use "apt-get dist-upgrade"
[04:14] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: ok
[04:14] <con-man> celeritas, here is the pastebin of lspci: http://pastebin.ca/1878825
[04:14] <ronx> k so dist-upgrade won't try to take me to lucid
[04:14] <jrib> ronx: no, take a look at « man apt-get »
[04:14] <ronx> word
[04:14] <ronx> er, roger
[04:14] <theadmin> ronx: I think that you should remove the newer kernels yourself.
[04:14]  * goodtime_ is listening to Can U Get Away [Audacious]
[04:14] <codebrainz> Aeroraptor, if you have a 64bit cpu, use the 64-bit version
[04:14] <jrib> goodtime_: turn that off please
[04:14] <Zeu5> hi all  i have googled around for some time. but i cannot seem to find an answer. i have exported a filezilla settings into a .xml file from my windows. how do i import that into my filezilla in ubuntu? i am running filezilla client
[04:14] <goodtime_> ok
[04:15] <tripelb> I cant get hulu in firefox or chrome. Yes I cleared the cache. or opera. Hello I posted this 2 hrs ago. and an hr ago... please someone notice me.
[04:15] <theadmin> goodtime_: please take that elsewhere or if a plugin does it turn it off
[04:15] <ronx> theadmin: remove them with apt-get you mean? or remove from config?
[04:15] <theadmin> ronx: apt
[04:15] <Aeroraptor> codebrainz, I have a core2duo, so yeah it's 64bit - will there be any issues in so far as applications (especially media codecs) are concerned?
[04:15] <jrib> tripelb: what happens when you try...?
[04:15] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: anyway I thought you called  the account you made administrator in the installer?
[04:15] <codebrainz> tripelb, what is hulu?
[04:15] <goodtime_> i do a command to do that im on konversation client
[04:15] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: true
[04:15] <centr0> im trying to get dual monitors AND compiz set up on ubuntu 10.  i can get the monitors setup using atis restricted driver but then compiz wont load.  when i use a non-ati driver compiz loads but i cant setup the monitors.  any ideas?
[04:15] <sebsebseb> codebrainz: a way for Americans to legally watch TV shows and such online
[04:15] <ronx> theadmin: any tips on how to do that or shall i google?
[04:15] <hufx> Aeroraptor:  64BIT SHOULD BE MORE CUP FRIENDLY
[04:15] <goodtime_> ill just refrane
[04:15] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: it was 'administrator' name, not type
[04:16] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: it didn't ask the type there
[04:16] <Aeroraptor> CPU friendly as in faster/less overhead?
[04:16] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> Hello CodeBrainz i had alot of trouble installing that lib file
[04:16] <codebrainz> Aeroraptor, nothing i've noticed.  used to be a problem with flash, but it works fine here atm
[04:16] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: right and you need to be in that account, to change the permissions for the other account
[04:16] <Aeroraptor> ok great. I'll keep on downloading the x64 version
[04:16] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: yes I'll relogin to change these things
[04:16] <ronx> i can man it.... haven't had to do this before i don't think... good learning experience ;)
[04:16] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: but only after I know what to change them to
[04:16] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: and uhmm yeah come back in on it and  i'll help with that last bit, easy to do
[04:16] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> where do i place the .so file in
[04:16] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: yes i'll explain that once your logged in to it, and back here
[04:17] <con-man> celeritas, all look normal to you?
[04:17] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: can you explain it now please?
[04:17] <hufx> Aeroraptor:  64BIT SHOULD BE MORE CUP FRIENDLY!
[04:17] <h00k> ohir: please don't yell.
[04:17] <codebrainz> tripelb, sebsebseb what player does it use?
[04:17] <h00k> hufx: rather, please don't yell.
[04:17] <tripelb> codebranz, jnb hulu.com shows video. flash. like house, SNL... I got some today after it failed. Then again not. It says, if this happens a lot clear your cache. I reinsatlled abobeflash. I cleared the cache and restarted.  -- I have 9.10. dell.
[04:17] <h00k> ohir: sorry:/
[04:17] <T1750> whats the linux UNbootin equivilinent
[04:17] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> codebrainz, i had alot of trouble installing the .so file where do i place it at
[04:17] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: that would be a bit pointless, since its something you should change when on the account, and just do
[04:17]  * T1750 DVD burner just died
[04:17] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: otherwise I would have to say do this and that and this and that, and uh
[04:17] <mattgyver> rip dvd burner
[04:18] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: ok I'll be coming to that account
[04:18] <jrib> tripelb: you need to be specific and speak clearly
[04:18] <hufx> sorry caps lock not noticed!
[04:18] <h00k> T1750: there exists a Startup Disk Creator
[04:18] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: should I log out from here, or just switch user?
[04:18] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: log out of the account your in now
[04:18] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: and log in to the other one
[04:18] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: um ok.
[04:18] <Zeu5> hi all i have googled around for some time. but i cannot seem to find an answer. i have exported a filezilla settings into a .xml file from my windows. how do i import that into my filezilla in ubuntu? i am running filezilla client
[04:18] <T1750> you guys have a wiki page on it i remember reeading it
[04:19]  * T1750 finds it again
[04:19] <theadmin> Sorry, connection issues.
[04:19] <theadmin> tripelb: What's "hulu"?
[04:19] <Kamilion> Having a bit of an issue installing lucid server 64 under vbox 3.2.4; debootstrap's freaking out -- my md5sums are correct, so I know I've got a good iso.
[04:20] <Kamilion> theadmin: Video On Demand service
[04:20] <codebrainz> Ubuntu_and_Coffe, for system under /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ for just you under ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[04:20] <Chak82> hello community
[04:20] <Chak82> i have problems with ubuntu
[04:20] <sebsebseb> !ask | Chak82
[04:20] <theadmin> Chak82: Just ask it.
[04:20] <celeritas> con-man, launchpad has a few bugs filed for various versions of ubuntu specifically for that nic. try lspci -vv and also look into https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/326891
[04:20] <Chak82> when i manipulate the volume (sound) it freeze !!!!
[04:21] <theadmin> Chak82: What? Try to be more descriptive, as in what freezes?
[04:21] <Datz> sebsebseb: do you know which supybot module is used with the !ask | nick ?
[04:21] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> ok lets see if this works thank you
[04:21] <sebsebseb> Datz: no
[04:21] <codebrainz> Ubuntu_and_Coffe, don't forget to restart firefox
[04:21] <Datz> sebsebseb: k, thanks anyway
[04:21] <sebsebseb> Datz: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic or  #ubuntu-ops I guess
[04:21] <Chak82> anything respond!!
[04:21] <Datz> sebsebseb: will do thanks
[04:22] <joshua__> Hi, someone knows why my wireless conexion is intermittent on diferents access points?
[04:22] <jrib> Datz: it's a custom module called Encyclopedia.  You can find ubottu's source in the ubuntu-bots project in launchpad
[04:22] <theadmin> Chak82: What exactly freezes? ALSA? Pulse? GNOME? The entire system?
[04:22] <jrib> !ubottu > Datz
[04:22] <Chak82> all GNOME !!!
[04:22] <h00k> Datz: check #ubuntu-bots, also the wiki page reports it is Encyclopedia plugin http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins
[04:22] <sebsebseb> Datz: thought the ops would know, and jrib is one of them, but h00k is also
[04:23] <Datz> ah, thanks guys
[04:23] <Kamilion> Having a bit of an issue installing lucid server 64 under vbox 3.2.4; debootstrap's freaking out -- my md5sums are correct, so I know I've got a good iso. The first install this afternoon managed to get past the base packages, this second try is bailing with debootstrap errors; I did grab the syslog.
[04:23] <celeritas> Chak82, run xmodmap -pk | grep -i audio and look for duplicate keycodes for XF86AudioRaise and Lower volume
[04:23] <con-man> celeritas, could you suggest alternate drivers
[04:23] <Chak82> for around 10 / 20 seconds ALL FREEZE
[04:23] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> whats the command in console for the file roller
[04:23] <theadmin> Ubuntu_and_Coffe: file-roller, of course :P
[04:23] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> o
[04:23] <Datz> jrib: great, thanks
[04:23] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> man its been along time
[04:23] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> i used to be pro
[04:24] <joshua__> Hi, someone knows why my wireless conexion is intermittent on diferents access points? but stable on a single point?
[04:24] <Kamilion> The syslog dump's here, anyone feel like helping me sort through the postmortem? http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/T7fnZ3jA
[04:24] <RedWar> Hi Guys, ... need some help with xvidcap and getting audio set up using a usb mic. Ubuntu forums remain unclear. Can't record a thing, with either the mic plugged in USB or the mic plugged in the sound card
[04:24] <celeritas> Chak82, certain key mapping might be launching a certain application. however, when using the volume control, the key event is triggered multiple times, causing an accidental overflow
[04:24] <RedWar> But it works with skype
[04:24] <RedWar> Any ideas?
[04:25] <tripelb> jnb I apologize for not speaking clearly. Hulu tells me that the video is not available. And if this happens repeatedly I should clear my casche and restart the browser. So I did. -- I also tried firefox.I cleared it's cache too. I also tried Opera which I had never used. == I also tried other videos.  == Have I been clear enough now? == I have 9.10 on a dell 4600 from 2004.
[04:25] <Chak82> celeritas: i have the output, do you have the link to paste this in ubuntu sute?
[04:25] <Chak82> site?
[04:25] <Exxon> hi guys:)
[04:25] <Kamilion> tripelb: I get the same thing *all the time* from hulu, using the site or hulu desktop, both on win and lin. Seems to be an issue with my ISP.
[04:25] <celeritas> Chak82, pastebin
[04:25] <con-man> no but really I need alternate drivers to try
[04:26] <tripelb> codebranz, j hulu.com shows videos, tv, movies. flash. like house, SNL...  Great site.
[04:26] <centr0> im trying to get ubuntu 10 working with dual monitors and the ati driver w/ compiz  everytime i try it cant load compiz  any ideas?
[04:26] <Chak82> celeritas: GOT IT !!!
[04:26] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> still nothing codebrainz
[04:26] <tripelb> Kamilion, but but (heh) I was able to see an SNL earlier today. How strange/ My ISP is TimeWarner (southern california)
[04:26] <Chak82> celeritas: http://paste.ubuntu.com/446432/
[04:26] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> no audio
[04:26] <celeritas> con-man, before going to deep into the drivers, make sure that lspci -vv is reporting an ok status for your nic
[04:27] <codebrainz> tripelb, it doesn't work at all here in canada :)  i guess we have to pirate our online tv
[04:27] <Chak82> celeritas: i didnt mention it man, but this happens while rythmbox is playing !
[04:27] <codebrainz> Ubuntu_and_Coffe, ask the channel, i'm out of ideas
[04:27] <Exxon> anyone ! how to enable ssl for IRC chat.
[04:27] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> kk
[04:27] <Kamilion> tripelb: I'm in the bay area, california, using comcast. I use hulu to watch the One Piece simulcasts from japan. I get those issues *constantly* -- have to try a couple times to watch a video but it will eventually work
[04:28] <T1750> what does the dolphin "eject" button do to USB stick as I can no longer access the device block file if I click it
[04:28] <Kamilion> tripelb: Seems to have something to do with the advertisements getting blocked by an upstream server between you and hulu.
[04:28] <Guest3902> Hey, can anyone help me restore my Grub for Ubuntu 10.04? I deleted a partition, then resized my linux partition to make it larger. Now it went from sda6 to sda5 and my grub can't find it. :/
[04:28] <gryllida1> hello?
[04:28] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: hi
[04:28] <codebrainz> T1750, it runs sync to flush the cache to disk and unmounts it
[04:28] <con-man> celeritas, http://pastebin.ca/1878830
[04:28] <theadmin> Guest3902: Boot from a liveCD, chroot and run sudo update-grub
[04:28] <codebrainz> T1750, ie "safely remove"
[04:29] <gryllida1> sebsebseb: I'm in the main account now
[04:29] <celeritas> Chak82: that might be it. unmap the volume keys from rhythmbox and let gnome take care of the volume
[04:29] <tripelb> codebrainz, offtopic PM
[04:29] <Kamilion> codebrainz: it does something more than that -- Safely remove somehow shuts off my Sandisk u3 sticks (the lights go out)
[04:29] <T1750> codebrainz: I always wondered how come there's no race condition doing that
[04:29] <Guest3902> I'm talking through the livecd right now. I'll work on Chrooting it.
[04:29] <Chak82> celeritas: how can i do that?
[04:29] <gryllida1> sebsebseb: what should I do now?
[04:29] <T1750> i suppose only if you're messing with the mounted disk using dd that could be
[04:29] <tripelb> kamilion thanks I'll try again.
[04:29]  * T1750 wonders why they cant access it then
[04:29] <theadmin> Guest3902: Example, if the Linux partition is mounted to /mnt, then you run "sudo chroot /mnt"
[04:29] <Exxon> anyone ! how to enable ssl for IRC chat.
[04:29] <gryllida1> sebsebseb: delete the second user and work from this one?
[04:30] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: apparantly there is a way to run sudo in  an account that doesn't have the privildges set up etc, or whatever.  anyway  do what I was going to say sure
[04:30] <Zeu5> hi all i have googled around for some time. but i cannot seem to find an answer. i have exported a filezilla settings into a .xml file from my windows. how do i import that into my filezilla in ubuntu? i am running filezilla client
[04:30] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: you can give the second user the permissions of the account your in now
[04:30] <Kamilion> T1750: I think it sends some kind of power management command using hdparm
[04:30] <Guest3902> Thank you admin, I'll post back on my progress in a minute.
[04:30] <Exxon> !ssl
[04:30] <AntraxCol> hello
[04:30] <lopeze> Hey guys quick question. I typically set my power settings to not idle out, however, with lucid it does it regardless of the settings in power management. How can I get it to not idle out every two minutes or so?
[04:31] <celeritas> con-man, your nic reports RTL8111/8168B PCI but the loaded driver is r8169
[04:31] <gryllida1> sebsebseb: what? I don't think I really need 2 accounts ; and the second thing is that I would like to know what it was after the install (iirc it was not 'administrator' type then(
[04:31] <Kamilion> lopeze: the screensaver is different than the powersave screen blank -- check both.
[04:31] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: yes
[04:31] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: you will set up the second account like it should be, then you can get rid of the one your in now
[04:31] <codebrainz> T1750, sorry, was that for me up there ^^ ?
[04:31] <theadmin> lopeze: Screensaver?
[04:31] <celeritas> con-man, this looks pretty close to what you need http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/R8168
[04:32] <con-man> celeritas, thx
[04:32] <gryllida1> sebsebseb: ok. how do I set up the second one? like making it be admin, or do you know the default setup?
[04:32] <lopeze> Checking right now, where is the setting itself? I've never had to change it before.
[04:32] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: yes you will set it up with the default set up
[04:32] <lopeze> Nevermind, got it.
[04:32] <gryllida1> sebsebseb: how?
[04:32] <gryllida1> sebsebseb: so not as 'administrator', right?
[04:32] <lopeze> Thanks guys.
[04:33] <theadmin> How is modifying /etc/sudoers by hand dangerous? (it says to only modify it by visudo)
[04:33] <tripelb> Kamilion, thanks guy
[04:33] <Chak82> how can i unmap the sound in rythmbox?
[04:33] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: system > administration > users and groups
[04:33] <celeritas> con-man, see if there is something like that targeted to ubuntu. modifying the kernel can screw you for hours later
[04:33] <AntraxCol> hi, am looking for info about backtrack i all ready download it, and install it.
[04:33] <Chak82> it cause errors in entire gnome when im manipuling the volume
[04:33] <jrib> theadmin: well you run the risk of making a syntax error and then no longer having any sudo access.  That's why you should always use visudo
[04:33] <acerimmer> !ot>antraxcol
[04:33] <hufx> bump!
[04:33] <gryllida1> sebsebseb: I opened it
[04:34] <StriKk_9> Anyone had issues with 10.04 wireless drivers not installing
[04:34] <gryllida1> !anyone
[04:34] <Kamilion> theadmin: visudo uses a tempfile copy, checks it for sanity, and then atomically replaces the sudoers file if it's "okay"
[04:34] <gryllida1> !details
[04:34] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: hang on a bit since...
[04:34] <gryllida1> sebsebseb: ok
[04:34] <jrib> StriKk_9: no, no one (just ask *your* question with relevant details)
[04:34] <THEO> sup guys. im using a dell netbook and i'm pretty new to ubuntu. how can i make the ubuntu as fast as possible? thanks
[04:34] <Guest3902> admin: it can't find a device for /. It asked if /dev is mounted. "sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu
[04:34] <Guest3902> /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?)."
[04:34] <theadmin> jrib: Wait, wait, what on earth... "root ALL=(ALL) ALL"... it means root priveleges may be taken away... from root?
[04:34] <tripelb> If TimeWarner is blocking hulu, would it help to go through a proxy?
[04:34] <acerimmer> THEO: disable desktop effects for one thing
[04:34] <gryllida1> THEO: LOL, just get newest version (10.4), notthing more
[04:35] <Kamilion> theadmin: The nice thing is that visudo respects the EDITOR env var -- so if you've got it set to nano, it (somewhat unintuitively) opens nano to edit it, not actually vi.
[04:35] <jrib> theadmin: no, just sudo privileges
[04:35] <AntraxCol> ok , i see you in private
[04:35] <theadmin> jrib: root doesn't need sudo o_O
[04:35] <Kamilion> theadmin: SeLinux or other LSMs can make the root account basically powerless.
[04:35] <jrib> theadmin: I guess
[04:35] <T1750> codebrainz: you sure it doesn't do something to stop me messing with it after unmounting
[04:35] <doormat81> So, I remember MANY versions back, Ubuntu (or compiz) had issues with window decorations disappearing.  It seems that STILL hasn't been patched.  What's the workaround to get them back?
[04:35] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: you see unlock if you click on the other account or something like that?
[04:35] <T1750> half the time i can still use it half the time i cant
[04:35] <Kamilion> doormat81: iirc "metacity --replace" ?
[04:36] <theadmin> Kamilion: that'd be compiz --replace
[04:36] <gryllida1> sebsebseb: no, I don't see unlock button anywhere in that window
[04:36]  * john275 is testing
[04:36] <theadmin> Kamilion: (compiz handles window decorations and metacity does not.)
[04:36] <doormat81> Kamilion, Yeah, what theadmin said... I remember now.  Thanks to both of you though
[04:36] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: ok
[04:36] <Kamilion> All I remember is --replace :)
[04:36] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: I guess what I was seeing is fine then, just stupid theme..
[04:37] <Kamilion> doormat81: also -- I noticed I had problems with that when I tried using emerald themes.
[04:37] <THEO> cool thanks guys!
[04:37] <gryllida1> sebsebseb: what do I do now?
[04:37] <T1750> bs it does something to the stickl
[04:37] <doormat81> Kamilion, nah, it had been working fine since I installed 10.04, but this time when I logged in they were gone.  Weird.
[04:37] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: getting to that just loading this thing up again
[04:37] <T1750> # dd if=/dev/sdg
[04:37] <theadmin> Anyhow, this sudoers file is very python-ish
[04:37] <gryllida1> ok
[04:37] <T1750> dd: opening `/dev/sdg': No medium found
[04:38] <Exxon> IRC chat /8001 cannot connect | pidgin 6667 can connect to the chat session..(reason why??)
[04:38] <theadmin> comma and space as separator, lol
[04:38] <Datz> jrib: how can I find that plugin? I don't see it @ https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[04:38] <gryllida1> theadmin, excuse me, what is the reason you are looking into the sudoers file?
[04:38] <theadmin> gryllida1: Why not?
[04:38] <kreppnar> has anyone here been successful with connecting a mtp device and transfering movies in ubuntu ??
[04:38] <StriKk_9> 10.04 install - I wireless can see but not connect to wireless networks... Dell latitude d600, what is my best course of action.
[04:38] <Datz> jrib: I probably don't know how to navigate correctly though
[04:38] <kreppnar> gnomad2 sucks
[04:39] <nits> can someone tell me how to use btdownloadcurses.py ?
[04:39] <theadmin> gryllida1: I just want to set up one account to be able to run certain stuff that requires root priveleges (i.e. mount)
[04:39] <T1750> how does the ubuntu lucid automounter work
[04:39] <T1750> i need to turn it off
[04:39] <T1750> is it udev rule?
[04:39] <Kamilion> Has anyone else reported weird problems trying to install lucid server today?
[04:39] <ykphuah> what is an easy way to share the packages that I downloaded with others within my company?  just duplicate the /var/cache/apt/archives into their machines?
[04:39] <sebsebseb> theadmin: I am about to do that
[04:39] <sebsebseb> theadmin: with  gryllida1
[04:39] <sebsebseb> theadmin: change an account that does not have that, to one that can
[04:39] <gryllida1> theadmin: system, administration, users, advanced settings should do it?
[04:39] <kreppnar> nits
[04:40] <nits> yes kreppnar
[04:40] <sebsebseb> theadmin: you need to be in the account that can do it first though
[04:40] <celeritas> T1750 i think the auto mount is part of gnome
[04:40] <Exxon> Kamilion: i tried and got tired with it back to 9.10 hee..hee
[04:40] <theadmin> sebsebseb, gryllida1: That's simple, I know how to, actually :D "username ALL=/bin/mount, /bin/umount"
[04:40] <kreppnar> nits: python2.6 btdownloadcurse.py (torrent file)
[04:40] <Kamilion> Exxon: debootstrap weirdness?
[04:40] <sebsebseb> theadmin: uhmmm
[04:40] <rafaelsoaresbr> ykphuah, apt-proxy
[04:40] <T1750> celeritas: it's somehow marking the device as not missing
[04:41] <kreppnar> nits: you just doing a shell or is gui? cause i would prefer utorrent
[04:41] <hufx> howdy al:0
[04:41] <gryllida1> sebsebseb.. so.. what are you doing? looking for the default setup?
[04:41] <theadmin> gryllida1: Well, I don't exactly get the user management thing in GNOME... it's weird
[04:41] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: ok got things loaded up again
[04:41] <mwen> can i see a program running on a ubuntu computer in graphic mode if connect to it on a ubuntu at distance?
[04:41] <Guest29711> whats the best wep cracker?
[04:42] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: that program seems to have changed a bit since I last used it as well
[04:42] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: so on the left you have the two names yes?
[04:42] <sebsebseb> in a list
[04:42] <theadmin> mwen: Depends on how you connect
[04:42] <Exxon> Kamilion: looks like they were in hurry! lucid
[04:42] <defendguin> h00k i found a way around it
[04:42] <hufx> howdy all :0
[04:42] <mwen> what u mean?
[04:42] <rafaelsoaresbr> Guest29711, aircrack-ng ?
[04:42] <gryllida1> sebsebseb: yes, 2 names
[04:42] <h00k> defendguin: cool. I forgot what we were talking about :)
[04:42] <mwen> with ssh.
[04:42] <celeritas> T1750: regardless of the service providing the automount, a missing entry in dev is not related. is the automount trying to mount the device regardless of the fact that is missing?
[04:42] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: so have the administratoer selected
[04:42] <defendguin> h00k http://davestechsupport.com/blog/2009/01/16/how-to-remove-ubuntus-password-keyring/
[04:43] <Guest3902> This is what I got back for trying to update grub after chrooting to my linux drive. "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[04:43] <Guest3902> "
[04:43] <gryllida1> sebsebseb: done
[04:43] <h00k> defendguin: oh, that. alright :)
[04:43] <theadmin> mewshi: : Then you'll have to set up X forwarding or what they call it. No idea how.
[04:43] <mark49> @search climbing
[04:43] <theadmin> ...Tab fail
[04:43] <T1750> celeritas: i used umount and then i can still reformat the stick
[04:43] <theadmin> mwen: Then you'll have to set up X forwarding or what they call it. No idea how.
[04:43] <Chak82> celeritas: the problem is rythmbox
[04:43] <Guest29711> yeah I just got it now just checking it out
[04:43] <T1750> i use the eject button in the nautilus (not dolphin) and the whole /dev/sdg stops responding
[04:43] <gryllida1> sebsebseb: now what?
[04:43] <T1750> that eject button marks the device as unusable, safest choice perhaps but annoying
[04:43] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: then go to advanced settings
[04:43] <Chak82> celeritas: banshee doesnt crash down with de volume control
[04:44] <gryllida1> sebsebseb: done
[04:44]  * T1750 thinks its probably goood idea tho when he realised he could just umount himself
[04:44] <gryllida1> sebsebseb: now what?
[04:44]  * T1750 wonders how they did it
[04:44] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: contact information is probably blank
[04:44] <Kamilion> t1750: pretty sure they use hdparm to ask the drive to enter powersave
[04:44] <gryllida1> sebsebseb: teur
[04:45] <gryllida1> sebsebseb: true*
[04:45] <celeritas> T1750: ah, so it forces the mount. seems like whatever is automounting is ignoring your umount. are you umounting through sudo?
[04:45] <rafaelsoaresbr> Guest29711, I use kismet + aircrack-ng
[04:45] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: five things ticked in user privildges?
[04:45] <gryllida1> sebsebseb: now what?
[04:45] <ykphuah> rafaelsoaresbr: thanks, reading it now
[04:46] <Exxon> alright guys..
[04:46] <celeritas> Chak82: figures, Gnome has conflicting key bindings. try releasing the rhythmbox binding are don't use it at all: there are alternatives
[04:46] <Steve1804> Brother MFC-495CW scanner not found in ubuntu 10.04
[04:46] <theadmin> Sometimes, I get "unable to mount /dev/disk/by-uuid/weird-code-here on /" on boot times, however I still am able to run fsck somehow from the prompt I get. Any ideas HOW it does this magic?
[04:46] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: yeah?
[04:47] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: administrator the system and such?
[04:47] <gryllida1> sebsebseb: false, all of them are ticked, except for "use audio devices", since it's 'administrator' type account - it hadsome setup aafter the install but I reset it to administrator type when making the second user..
[04:47] <gryllida1> sebsebseb: so not just 5
[04:47] <kreppnar> anyone here have a Creative Zen W player that they use in ubuntu?
[04:48] <Kamilion> theadmin: on the uuid map or the underlying devicename? (/dev/sdX)
[04:48] <Steve1804> Having problem setting up brother MFC-495CW printer on Ubuntu 10.04
[04:48] <celeritas> theadmin, have you tried changing the fstab to using the sd0 format instead of uuid?
[04:48] <rafaelsoaresbr> ykphuah, with apt-proxy you don't need to manually copy packages to each machine. it's a great tool.
[04:48] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: oh right yeah you went in there yourself and did some stuff
[04:48] <ykphuah> rafaelsoaresbr: if I already have the packages, can I set up apt-proxy on my own machine?
[04:48] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: well go to the other user account like that
[04:48] <gryllida1> sebsebseb: yes, when making second user, I didn't go to advanced settings,I just set that aaccount to be of type'administrator'
[04:48] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: and give it the things you want it to have
[04:49] <theadmin> Kamilion, celeritas: Well, fsck fixes it (it actually happens because of a faulty CMOS battery, it's "timestamp is in the future")
[04:49] <gryllida1> sebsebseb: I would like to know what the default setup is since I have no idea what some of these checkboxes stand for
[04:49] <theadmin> Kamilion, celeritas: The device it complains of is /dev/sda1 (which is my /)
[04:50] <rafaelsoaresbr> ykphuah, yes, you can also copy /var/cache/apt/archives from others machines to yours
[04:50] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: my vm is actsaully alpha 1 of what will become the next Ubuntu, but  very similar to 10.04, and for this I guess its exactly the same
[04:50] <Sereph> how can i edit the places menu?
[04:50] <theadmin> Sereph: You can't, it's dynamic. Well, apart from adding Nautilus bookmarks
[04:50] <gryllida1> sebsebseb: can you tell me what setup you see there?
[04:50] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: yep
[04:51] <Sereph> theadmin: well what does it pick up the things in it from
[04:51] <ms2204> why my CUPS can not auto start ?
[04:51] <theadmin> Sereph: Apart from bookmarks, which is supposed to be ~/.gtk-bookmarks file, no idea
[04:51] <Sereph> theadmin: i added things to fstab and mounted them in /mnt but it doesnt see them...
[04:51] <acerimmer> Sereph: Go to one of your places the Bookmarks>Edit/Add Bookmarks
[04:51] <jnewman9838> Hi all - I have what seems like a super-newbie question, but I just haven't been able to figure it out.  Is there anyway to watch quicktime vidoes on apple.com?  I have mplayer, but can't seem to get the website to actually send me the .mov file
[04:52] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: ok this is what is ticked,  altough I don't feel like typing the whole lot, so this will give you the idea
[04:52] <ykphuah> rafaelsoaresbr: does that means the other machine have to disable all the software sources?
[04:52] <ykphuah> rafaelsoaresbr: besides the apt-proxy:9999
[04:52] <gryllida1> sebsebseb: like does "administer the system" mean that the user can install things without sudo pw, or is it needed in anyway?
[04:52] <theadmin> jnewman9838: If you have the VLC plugin for Firefox (should install with VLC AFAIK), use it, it plays those .mov things fine
[04:52] <sebsebseb> gryllida1:  I mean not using full names, you'll see what I mean
[04:52] <gryllida1> ok
[04:52] <rafaelsoaresbr> ykphuah, yes, others machines will access your machine to get packages.
[04:53] <celeritas> theadmin: maybe its complaining because it has a duplicate entry for / under sda1 first and then the uuid, making the second mount to root impossible
[04:53] <Kamilion> theadmin: hmm, the only "magic" I know of is blkid
[04:53] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: access external storage, administrate system,  config printers,  mon system logs,  share files local network, use cd room, use modem.    ok thats more than five, tehre were two towards bottom as well
[04:53] <theadmin> celeritas: It's not. It's complaining cuz time got erased and it thought I'm in 80's lol
[04:53] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: now most  all of it you could have checked really I guess
[04:53] <sebsebseb> most or all
[04:54] <theadmin> celeritas: "Last mount is too far in the future"
[04:54] <Sereph> acerimmer: I want it to notice the Hard drives...
[04:54] <dde> can anyone get this thing to load on 10.04???: http://www.bat.org/play/batclient
[04:54] <gryllida1> sebsebseb: ok. butdoes "administer the system" mean that the user can install things without sudo pw, or is it needed in anyway?
[04:54] <acerimmer> Sereph: should do that by default...
[04:54] <celeritas> theadmin: i though the uuid was not related to the time
[04:54] <theadmin> gryllida1: User's password will be still required
[04:54] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: I think you just got to press ok  after you got admin system, and things will be ok.  unless you got to change the groups your other user has access to as well
[04:54] <gryllida1> sebsebseb: and which of them is to add the user to sudoers group
[04:54] <Kamilion> theadmin: Y'know what would be REALLY freaking useful? grub2 has network support -- someone should write an ntp client for it so grub2 can set the time from a server if an invalid system date's set on the hwclock.
[04:55] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: administrate system should do that
[04:55] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> Hello every 1 i am having trouble with audio on firefox like youtube it plays flash but no audio but audio is working on move player
[04:55] <theadmin> Kamilion: Not like it will be able to connect anyway, I need NM to do that for me :/
[04:55] <gryllida1> sebsebseb: I think I'll just make it be 'administrator' and log into it again
[04:55] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: check other account after changes, before getting rid of one your in now, of course
[04:55] <con-man> celeritas, http://pastebin.ca/1878841
[04:55] <Sereph> acerimmer: only the ones that are automounted by clicking them in that menu. if mounted from fstab or manually they dont.
[04:55] <con-man> celeritas, any better?
[04:55] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: change settings for other account like this, and it should be fine
[04:55] <gryllida1> sebsebseb: or, rather, just delete it and use this one
[04:55] <Sereph> dde: yes
[04:56] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: or make a new account, and then give it these permissions
[04:56] <Sereph> dde: if by run you mean launch it
[04:56] <Kamilion> theadmin: it would work for most standard ethernet/dhcp infrastructure... orrrrr you could just replace the laptop's rtc battery.
[04:56] <dde> Sereph, what could be wrong with my system that it doesnt load it?
[04:56] <dde> yes launch
[04:56] <dde> its a java app
[04:56] <theadmin> Kamilion: :D Well, it failed only once so far so whatever
[04:56] <Sereph> dde: do you have java installed?
[04:56] <gryllida1> sebsebseb: where do I set root passwor?
[04:56] <dde> a game
[04:56] <theadmin> gryllida1: Don't do that.
[04:56] <codebrainz> Kamilion, that's actually a cool idea ... i bet it wouldn't be too hard to add
[04:56] <h00k> !root | gryllida1
[04:56] <ykphuah> rafaelsoaresbr: thanks a lot!
[04:57] <theadmin> Kamilion: Well, it's not ethernet/dhcp, it's a VPN ISP.
[04:57] <snowrichard> there is no spoon
[04:57] <snowrichard> lol
[04:57] <Sereph> sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
[04:57] <Kamilion> codebrainz: Hey, go pitch it to a grub SoC student!
[04:57] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: root password in Ubuntu is something else...
[04:57] <rafaelsoaresbr> ykphuah, you're welcome
[04:57] <Sereph> snowrichard: yes i saw that too
[04:57] <dde> Sereph, i believe so, otherwise i wouldnt get the error message in terminal: "cannot open jar: No such file"
[04:57] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: the idea is to use sudo instead of root
[04:57] <celeritas> con-man, i see the module is loaded in the kernel but its not actually using it
[04:57] <sebsebseb> !sudo | gryllida1
[04:57] <gryllida1> sebsebseb: whenever I install an app, it asks me for a password
[04:57] <gryllida1> sebsebseb: whenever I install an app, it asks me for a password -where do I set it?
[04:57] <Kamilion> gryllida1: Don't set a root password. The root account has no password and is disabled for direct logins.
[04:57] <Sereph> dde: well I just ran it from browser
[04:57] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: yes it asks for the user account password, the one in the sudo file
[04:57] <Sereph> gryllida1: that is your password
[04:57] <theadmin> gryllida1: It's your user password.
[04:57] <con-man> celeritas, now what?
[04:57] <dde> Sereph, how?
[04:58] <Kamilion> gryllida1: the idea is to have a log of which account requested root access for 'task X'
[04:58] <codebrainz> Kamilion, how would it know what settings to use?  just try dhcp on all interfaces, or a static option in grub.conf?
[04:58] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: you can change it in that app as well I guess, but I would use the  termianl to change the password :)
[04:58] <Sereph> had the option to open with java or save it
[04:58] <Sereph> dde: doy ou have sun java or openjdk?
[04:58] <dde> Sereph, both
[04:58] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: or recovery modes root prompt if forgotton and can't log in to Ubuntu at all :D
[04:58] <codebrainz> Kamilion, i haven't played with grub2 networking at all
[04:58] <jasonmchristos> someone please help me out with festival on karmic http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1501212
[04:58] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: now that your not in your second account, you can easily change the password for it
[04:58] <Kamilion> codebrainz: Unfortunately, I think grub2 requires a pxe stack for the network support during boot time.
[04:58] <gryllida1> sebsebseb: so whenever I install a new app, I just put current user's password?
[04:59] <Sereph> dde: which one is it running with
[04:59] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: yes you put in the password for the user that is set up to use sudo
[04:59] <celeritas> con-man try pulling the 8169 files out of the modules directory
[04:59] <Kamilion> or at least an undi driver
[04:59] <con-man> celeritas, I have no idea what that means
[04:59] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: and was telling you how to set it up so your other account will be able to use sudo
[04:59] <dde> Sereph, i dont know. how do i find out
[04:59] <codebrainz> Kamilion, you could do it early in the kernel, but would slow it way down on boot, so only if absolutely needed
[04:59] <Sereph> anyone else know how to do this?
[04:59] <Sereph> I only have sun java
[05:00] <Kamilion> but yeah, if grub2 can get an UNDI driver loaded for your card, it should be able to dhcp and attempt a NTP sync against A: the NTP option field in the DHCP response, or B: pool.ntp.org
[05:00] <Sereph> dde: i have this choose-java is aliased to `c; for Java_Alternative in java keytool orbd rmid rmiregistry; do sudo update-alternatives --config "$Java_Alternative"; done'
[05:00] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: are you happy with the user name of the other account
[05:00] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: or do you want a new user name as well?
[05:00] <gryllida1> no
[05:00] <codebrainz> Kamilion, i saw a bunch of net drivers somewhere in grub's source iirc
[05:00] <gryllida1> that's fine
[05:00] <Kamilion> they come from gpxe (was etherboot)
[05:00] <gryllida1> sebsebseb: I made the second user be 'administrator' and will just log into it
[05:01] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: so  done the graphical stuff now for the other account yes?
[05:01] <gryllida1> and use it
[05:01] <dde> Sereph, do i enter that into the terminal? could you put in quotes what i have to enter exactly?
[05:01] <Sereph> dde: that is in my .bash_profile
[05:01] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: right, but you want the password changed?
[05:01] <gryllida1> sebsebseb: I made it be admin, it has everything except for audio device usage ticked
[05:01] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: you can have both accounts, and they both can do sudo, doesn't matter
[05:01] <gryllida1> sebsebseb: why would I change the password?
[05:01] <celeritas> con-man, modprobe the r8169 module out
[05:01] <Kamilion> Well, more to the point, grub2's networking (network *booting*) support is accomplished by pretty much just embedding gpxe.
[05:01] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: I thought you wanted to, you put something earlier
[05:02] <gryllida1> sebsebseb: I'll keep the 1st account to log into it as a way of recovery in case the second user account breaks
[05:02] <Sereph> dde: put in .bash_profile "alias choose-java=`c; for Java_Alternative in java keytool orbd rmid rmiregistry; do sudo update-alternatives --config "$Java_Alternative"; done'"
[05:02] <celeritas> con-man, should be something like modprobe -r r8169
[05:02] <sebsebseb> gryllida1: ok sure
[05:02] <theadmin> Hey - there is this weird network-manager feature/bug which makes it run only for a single user and this is VERY annoying (only one user can use the net at same time :/)
[05:02] <Sereph> without the double quotes on the ends
[05:02] <dde> Sereph, where is .bash_profile?
[05:03] <Sereph> dde: in your home directory generally, it may not exist though
[05:03] <hufx> jasonmchristos:    u seem to have a LOT  of dependcy problems!
[05:04] <Jordan_U> Kamilion: That actually sounds like a feature that upstream grub might be willing to add. You should propose it.
[05:04] <T1750> whats the best GUI disk space usage visualiser
[05:04] <T1750> i notice most of the ones in linux wont show files which is annoying
[05:04] <h00k> T1750: There is Disk Usage Analyzer
[05:04] <theadmin> T1750: Baobab is good enough IMO
[05:05] <theadmin> T1750: Default one
[05:05] <spenguin[work]> hey anyone using kernel 2.6.33 on a thinkpad x201?
[05:05] <hufx> T1750: Guparted will show all
[05:05] <Kamilion> Normally it's impolite to propose features like that without at least offering some token code that can be improved upon.
[05:05] <spenguin[work]> or anyone using a thinkpad x201
[05:05] <rafaelsoaresbr> T1750, press <Alt><F2> then: gksu baobab
[05:05] <Kamilion> And unfortunately; I'm a full time sysadmin so I don't really have time to code or support said code.
[05:05] <theadmin> rafaelsoaresbr: It doesn't need sudo AFAIK
[05:05] <dde> Sereph, that didn't fix it
[05:05] <kreppnar> can i get some help with a Creative Zen W player please?
[05:05] <codebrainz> Kamilion, include/grub/net.h looks like a dummy template where someone has started on getting actual networking working
[05:06] <rafaelsoaresbr> theadmin, it does not work well without admin privilegies
[05:06] <guillermo> hello, my usb was ruined by some windows virus and it changed the file system label to something that mounted looks like thiss:
[05:06] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: hi?
[05:06] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: hi
[05:06] <codebrainz> Kamilion, "FIXME: How to abstract networks? More consideration is necessary."
[05:06] <guillermo> ^Mu(N_
[05:06] <doormat81> Could someone tell me the simplest way to update python to 3.0?
[05:06] <guillermo> that is the name of the folder in the mount folder
[05:06] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> Hello every 1 i am having trouble with audio on firefox like youtube it plays flash but no audio but audio is working on move player
[05:06] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> Hello every 1 i am having trouble with audio on firefox like youtube it plays flash but no audio but audio is working on move player
[05:06] <guillermo> how can i unmount the usb fil system
[05:07] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> oops sry
[05:07] <Kamilion> codebrainz: My point :)  I don't exactly have the time to tinker with it, sadly.
[05:07] <Sereph> dde: you have to do "source .bash_profile" from terminal
[05:07] <celeritas> guillermo: umount the mount point
[05:07] <theadmin> guillermo: Heh, easy as nothing :D sudo umount '^Mu(N_'
[05:07] <T1750> thanks for all tips
[05:07] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: I'm in second account, it's administrator type now, works as expected; how do I install 'sage' math engineering app here? I tried to look for it in software centre, results are more than weird
[05:07] <guillermo> it says it doen't find that directory
[05:07] <Sereph> guillermo: umount mountpoint
[05:07] <sebsebseb> guillermo: uhmm
[05:07] <sebsebseb> guillermo: wrong one
[05:07] <guillermo> like the ^ character is invalid
[05:07] <theadmin> guillermo: Uh wait
[05:07] <guillermo> hm i'll try with the mountpoint
[05:07] <theadmin> sudo umount '/media/^Mu(N_' - run this
[05:07] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: uhmm
[05:07] <Kamilion> codebrainz: but I'll drop by the upstream wiki and throw the idea out there
[05:08] <codebrainz> Kamilion, i probably have the time, but lack the interest and probably the know-how (i am writing a bootloader but it's not fancy like grub2)
[05:08] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: thats propritary software isn't it?
[05:08] <Kamilion> ... Um... Why are you writing a bootloader?
[05:08] <hufx> 100% Psychedelic Trance - Get your stomp on!
[05:08] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> oops sry
[05:08] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> oops sry
[05:08] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> Hello every 1 i am having trouble with audio on firefox like youtube it plays flash but no audio but audio is working on move player
[05:08] <FloodBot4> Ubuntu_and_Coffe: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:08] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: yes 'sage' is software
[05:08] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: right yeah, but
[05:09] <T1750> hufx: I'm confused how do i browse in gparted?
[05:09] <theadmin> Gryllida: Is it FOSS?
[05:09] <frobisher> How do you change the background in Lucid.
[05:09] <Gryllida> theadmin: I think so, but idk
[05:09] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: do you know what opensource is?  Do you know what freesoftware is no I don't mean  freeware like in Windows?  Do you know what propritary software means?
[05:09] <theadmin> frobisher: ...Right click the desktop, change background
[05:09] <R3cur51v3> Where is the human-readable option for the "sort" command?
[05:09] <R3cur51v3> It seems to not exist on Ubuntu.
[05:09] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: and I guess you don't know what FOSS means?
[05:09] <rafaelsoaresbr> anyone using GPT instead of MBR?
[05:09] <dde> Sereph, bash: .bash_profile: line 1: unexpected EOF while looking for matching ``'
[05:09] <dde> bash: .bash_profile: line 2: syntax error: unexpected end of file
[05:09]  * T1750 goes with theh gneom one
[05:10] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: thats ok your new
[05:10] <Kamilion> guillermo: what's the device name? /dev/sdr?
[05:10] <T1750> its almost good enuf
[05:10] <hufx> T1750:  its an app ! that will show u ur partitions
[05:10] <T1750> they should add file support
[05:10] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: don't feel embarrassed or something to answer those questions with a no
[05:10] <h0rnman> does anyone have a (semi) permanent solution to the nm-applet issue with power saving on a USB wlan?
[05:10] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sage_(mathematics_software) # Sage (mathematics software), open-source mathematics software system written in Python
[05:10] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: is it absent in the repo?
[05:10] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: oh right it is open source
[05:10] <hagabaka> is there a way to automatically install dbg packages for libraries used by a program? the program is not in a package
[05:10] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: is it made for Linux?
[05:10] <codebrainz> R3cur51v3, -V
[05:10] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: no idea
[05:10] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: let me look
[05:10] <sebsebseb> !info sage
[05:11] <Kamilion> it's made for python, so yes
[05:11] <celeritas> guillermo: running mount will show you the mounted devices, then run umount /dev/yourdevice
[05:11] <doormat81> So apparently I have all versions of python installed, but it defaults to 2.6.  How can I make 3.1 the default?
[05:11] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: its not in the repo at least not with the sage name according to the bot
[05:11] <con-man> celeritas, you want the new pastebin after my restart cause that busticated my intartubes
[05:11] <frobisher> ThankX threadmin.
[05:11] <guillermo> ubuntu mounts the usb "weirdly"
[05:11] <Kamilion> guillermo: You can use Disk Utility to relabel a partition on your USB stick.
[05:11] <guillermo> but i thikn i did it
[05:11] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: sage is uhmm something else as well,  I think, accounting software for Windows or something
[05:11] <guillermo> with the mountpoint thank.
[05:11] <guillermo> s
[05:11] <celeritas> con-man, ever onward
[05:12] <dde> Sereph, bash: .bash_profile: line 1: unexpected EOF while looking for matching ``'
[05:12] <R3cur51v3> corebrainz, thansk
[05:12] <dde> bash: .bash_profile: line 2: syntax error: unexpected end of file
[05:12] <R3cur51v3> codebrainz, thanks
[05:12] <celeritas> con-man, sorry to hear about your tubes
[05:12] <R3cur51v3> dde, that means you have an error in your .bash_profile
[05:12] <codebrainz> R3cur51v3, np.  just do man thecommand for the options
[05:12] <R3cur51v3> codebrainz, yeah. I'm used to some other version  that has a -h option
[05:12] <R3cur51v3> codebrainz, I searched for "human" in the manpage
[05:12] <R3cur51v3> codebrainz, but I didn't actually read the whole thing
[05:13] <codebrainz> R3cur51v3, yea, i was looking for 'natural sort' having coded one in python a while back
[05:13] <Sereph> dde: alias 'choose-java'='c; for Java_Alternative in java keytool orbd rmid rmiregistry; do sudo update-alternatives --config "$Java_Alternative"; done'
[05:13] <jasonmchristos> hufx no dependancy problems its installed the script just wouldnt run right
[05:13] <con-man> celeritas, http://pastebin.ca/1878844
[05:13] <Sereph> dde: sorry pasted it wrong
[05:13] <jasonmchristos> now synaptic shows dependancy problems but festival is installed
[05:14] <hufx> T1750:  Guparted is an appp     who have lost ne now¬¬
[05:15] <FreetodrinkSR> Hello, I need some help. I was the guest earlier that was having grub problems. I chrooted into my linux partition, updated grab, but at the end it cannot find the list of partitions. What do I need to do now?
[05:15] <theadmin> Allright, I know that this isn't really supported here, but I'm building a custom version of Ubuntu. If i'll keep teh repos, will it receive updates from Ubuntu?
[05:15] <ohayo> Why do you kids seem to think Open Source software is so great? Proprietary software is made by professional software developers with real skills, while your GNU stuff is made by neckbeards living in their parents basements. You seem to think that software is made better by everyone being able to look at, and modify the source code of it. How many of you have actually contributed to a proper open source project? Not many I bet. So what ...
[05:15] <marcolus36> hi anybody out there had any success getting sony vaio graphics working properly with lucid? Mine won't work with nvidia graphics
[05:15] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: ok wikipedia page says platform Python
[05:15] <ohayo> ... is so great about being able to view the source code of your programs if you're not going to do anything with it? Anyway, quit bragging about your crappy GNU stuff and leave software development to the professional engineers.
[05:15] <hufx> jasonmchristos:    opps     Guparted is an appp     who have lost ne now¬¬
[05:15] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: so its a program that works in a web browser as well?  seems so according to brief look at the wekipedia page
[05:15] <Sereph> ohayo: nobody is making you use it
[05:15] <jasonmchristos> its just fstival
[05:15] <ohayo> Sereph: true, that's why I use amazing mIRC
[05:15] <ohayo> written by pro coders
[05:15] <Sereph> ohayo: then why are you here...
[05:16] <theadmin> ohayo: And I bet you use Windows too :P
[05:16] <ohayo> yes I do
[05:16] <theadmin> ohayo: What on earth are you doin' here then
[05:16] <Sereph> theadmin: hes trolling..
[05:16] <kalangas> hola
[05:16] <ohayo> Just wondering why you chose to use crappy programs
[05:16] <R3cur51v3> !feedingthetrolls
[05:16] <ohayo> Windows is amazing and written by pro coders
[05:16] <codebrainz> ohayo, most foss is written by professionals as well, see linux, python, and most other big projects
[05:16] <theadmin> ohayo: They are NOT crappy. Basta.
[05:16] <theadmin> codebrainz: Don't feed him
[05:16] <Zhwazi> So is FreeBSD :)
[05:16] <codebrainz> sorry
[05:16] <sebsebseb> !trolling | ohayo
[05:16] <Zhwazi> But yeah, wtf Linux
[05:16] <guillermo> i ran fdisk in my usb device . when i make it display the partitions in the usb, it prints various mistakes
[05:16] <rafaelsoaresbr> hehe
[05:16] <kalangas> hi
[05:16] <theadmin> ubottu: ops | ohayo
[05:17] <ohayo> rude
[05:17] <R3cur51v3> ??
[05:17] <sebsebseb> !language | Zhwazi
[05:17] <ohayo> I am not an emergency
[05:17] <R3cur51v3> This is not really an emergency, he's just a trolling idiot.
[05:17] <Zhwazi> :/
[05:17] <guillermo> saying some partitions has distinct physic/logic endings
[05:17] <guillermo> :-/
[05:17] <R3cur51v3> Still, he ought to be kb'd.
[05:17] <guillermo> how can i fix that
[05:17] <T1750> anyone know a command line copy utility or pipe sequence with progress bar? rsync --progress spamming is annoying id just like a tidy 0 to 100%
[05:17] <theadmin> R3cur51v3: Well, this trigger is mainly fired on spammers/trolls
[05:17] <Sereph> R3cur51v3: you saying you'll miss him?
[05:17] <maco> ohayo: windows discussion is offtopic here. go to ##windows
[05:17] <ohayo> right
[05:17] <jasonmchristos> someone help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1501212
[05:17] <ohayo> enjoy your crappy software anyways guys
[05:17] <celeritas> con-man: modprobe -c | grep eth0 should give you the current module loaded on the card
[05:17] <codebrainz> what a tard
[05:18] <Beyondinferno> hey codebrainz
[05:18] <codebrainz> yo
[05:18] <nits> trying to hash check using btdownloadcurses i get this error
[05:18] <nits> http://paste.ubuntu.com/446445/
[05:18] <con-man> celeritas, eth1 actually, but rgr that
[05:18] <Sereph> coulda sworn i saw hook recently
[05:18]  * maco raises hand as someone who has contributed to an open source project, for the record (even though ohayo's gone)
[05:18] <theadmin> Sereph: He's here.
[05:18] <marcolus36> hi anybody out there had any success getting sony vaio graphics working properly with lucid? Mine won't work with nvidia graphics
[05:18] <Beyondinferno> i fixed the broken pakage issue from earlier and now i've got another problem
[05:19] <hufx> ohayo: windoz is dead
[05:19] <dde> who wants to pay for software when there are free versions that work better?
[05:19] <theadmin> maco: Hey, me contributed too :D I'm one of Russian Ubuntu Translators
[05:19] <codebrainz> Beyondinferno, ask the channel, i'm coding as well
[05:19] <con-man> celeritas, blacklist eth1394
[05:19] <con-man> alias ieee1394:ven*mo*sp0000005Ever00000001* eth1394
[05:19] <Beyondinferno> dde and how
[05:19] <Beyondinferno> codebrainz kk
[05:19] <soreau> ! work | marcolus36
[05:19] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT CODEBRAINEZ , THE MAN SIZE AND HIGH_5 FOR ALL THEIR SUPPORT WITH HELPING FIX ALL MY AUDIO PROBS ALL SYSTEMS ARE GO AN ALL MY AUDIO IS WORKING!!!!
[05:19] <Kane_Hart> good evening. I have mysql installed but I was wondering if there is an amazing easy guide or site out there to install say lamp with working dns so I can add ns1/ns2 domain.com and also even be able to do dns subdomains like s2.domain.com to other ips and such............ =)
[05:19] <R3cur51v3> Half of this channel is retarded...
[05:20] <FreetodrinkSR> Hey, can I get internet connection through chroot in a terminal?
[05:20] <Zhwazi> Only half?
[05:20] <h00k> ubottu: tell R3cur51v3 about Guidelines
[05:20] <R3cur51v3> (not talking about anyone in particular)
[05:20] <R3cur51v3> h00k, sorry
[05:20] <Zhwazi> Get an internet connection through a chroot? Like form a chrooted environment? Yes.
[05:20] <con-man> I predict someone gets op status
[05:20] <R3cur51v3> Won't do that again.
[05:20] <Zhwazi> Make sure you have /etc/resolv.conf configured.
[05:20] <kzona1600> hi
[05:20] <soreau> FreetodrinkSR: You need the internet working for the os you're chrooting from
[05:20] <nomad> hi all,where is the script folder located for xchat?
[05:21] <h0rnman> Does anyone have any thoughts on how to get wireless working properly on Lucid using a rt73usb driver?  My current situation is an unstable connection until I disable wireless, manually set power setting to off (iwconfig) and then reenable wireless
[05:21] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: if possible I want to install it so that it can work offline
[05:21] <con-man> celeritas, blacklist eth1394
[05:21] <con-man> alias ieee1394:ven*mo*sp0000005Ever00000001* eth1394
[05:21] <hufx> R3cur51v3: and the other half is linux-enlighened
[05:21] <con-man> is that bad
[05:21] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: I think you can do it
[05:21] <soreau> nomad: ~/.xchat
[05:21] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: just I don't use that app
[05:21] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT CODEBRAINEZ , THE MAN SIZE AND HIGH_5 FOR ALL THEIR SUPPORT WITH HELPING FIX ALL MY AUDIO PROBS ALL SYSTEMS ARE GO AN ALL MY AUDIO IS WORKING!!!!
[05:21] <marcolus36> soreau: ok, to be more specific, I have a sony vaio f115, I have limited graphics resolution with the nuveau driver. My boss fixed it about 2 weeks ago then I updated something and broke
[05:21] <marcolus36> it
[05:21] <soreau> nomad: ~/.xchat2 <-- just put them directly in this folder
[05:21] <kzona1600> Hey, what is this program normally used for?
[05:21] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: however Ubuntu uses a lot of Python
[05:21] <celeritas> con-man, let's try to blacklist the r8169 module and force the kernel to use the r8168 module for the nic
[05:21] <maco> theadmin: yay translators!
[05:21] <codebrainz> Ubuntu_and_Coffe, np
[05:21] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: and wikipedia said platform Python, however not been on the offical site yet
[05:21] <Kamilion> sad thing was, ohayo was a fedora user (CTCP versioned him, x-chat on FC13)
[05:22] <marcolus36> soreau: and we can't remember exactly what the fix was.
[05:22] <con-man> celeritas, how do we do that
[05:22] <kzona1600> lol
[05:22] <maco> Kamilion: hahaha
[05:22] <doormat81> So apparently I have all versions of python installed, but it defaults to 2.6.  How can I make 3.1 the default?
[05:22] <maco> doormat81: thatll likely break a lot of stuff...
[05:22] <maco> doormat81: python2 and python3 are *NOT* compatible
[05:22] <celeritas> con-man, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=166624 obviously not the pc speakers. use r8169 instead
[05:22] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: ok wikipedia also says its cross platform :)
[05:22] <codebrainz> doormat81, you probably don't want to do that
[05:22] <rafaelsoaresbr> Fedora huh?
[05:23] <soreau> marcolus36: Well you have a few options. 1) You can look in your X log to see if you notice anything obvious 2) You can pastebin it so others can view it 3) Ask in #nouveau (they probably will want your X log too) 4) Google some guide for installing the proprietary nvidia driver
[05:23] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: ok read that wrong,  operating system cross platform,  platform python
[05:23] <nomad> soreau sorry for the noob question but is that in places home or where?
[05:23] <dde> Sereph, i keep getting like 40 errors telling me all these files dont exist
[05:23] <doormat81> maco, however, I'm trying to learn python programming and the book I'm reading uses 3.1.  I need to enter 'python3.1' every time to run my code?
[05:23] <con-man> celeritas, Im really tired but you've done so much, I will pick this up later
[05:23] <con-man> celeritas, you da man
[05:23] <milton> hello
[05:23] <codebrainz> marcolus36, my vaio graphics work fine, but i have the ati (on purpose)  :)
[05:23] <con-man> celeritas, keep up the good work my friend
[05:23] <celeritas> con-man, hope it works out
[05:24] <nits> get this error wen i try to hash check a torrent http://paste.ubuntu.com/446445/ please help needed
[05:24] <soreau> nomad: ~/ means $HOME, which will be the equivalent of /home/$USER
[05:24] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: their download/install instructions are overkill at their website
[05:24] <codebrainz> doormat81, i think you can use virtualenv for this
[05:24] <Sereph> soreau: it also means $HOME
[05:24] <Kamilion> doormat81: You can use a hashbang line to specify the interpreter -- #!/usr/bin/python3.1
[05:24] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: no they aren't
[05:24] <kzona1600> lol
[05:24] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: you would have to compile it from source though for Ubuntu or any other Linux distribution it seems
[05:24] <soreau> Sereph: isn't that what i said?
[05:24] <milton> hey anyone know how to connect to a mac out of xubuntu
[05:24] <dde> Sereph, i keep getting like 40 errors telling me all these files dont exist
[05:24] <milton> using an ethernet
[05:24] <Sereph> oops my bad
[05:25] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: what is it your second day on Ubuntu?
[05:25] <nomad> thank you very much soreau and Sereph
[05:25] <milton> ive had it bout a week
[05:25] <jasonmchristos> can someone teach me how to upstream the installation script error in the karmic festival package
[05:25] <jasonmchristos> se http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1501212
[05:25] <marcolus36> soreau: thanks, http://pastebin.org/317501 for my log files.
[05:25] <doormat81> Kamilion, ah, that'll work.  Didn't realize so much had changed between v2 and v3.  But is 3 becoming the standard or should I focus on learning 2.6 instead?
[05:25] <Sereph> dde: not entirely sure whats not existing.... but i dont know any other way to do it
[05:25] <maco> doormat81: you could put the path to 3.1 in your #! and then use ./myprog.py instead of using the "python" command
[05:25] <kzona1600> how many people are here? jeeze
[05:25] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: yes second day.
[05:25] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: most programs you can get from the repos,  easilly downoad and install them, but not everything
[05:25] <theadmin> doormat81: They say it's not ready yet
[05:25] <h00k> kzona1600: lots :)
[05:25] <tabmaw_has_AIDS> it's true
[05:25] <Sereph> dde: try this... alias 'choose-java'='c; for Java_Alternative in java keytool orbd rmid rmiregistry; do sudo update-alternatives --config "$Java_Alternative"; done'
[05:25] <dde> this is reall TICKING ME OFF
[05:25] <marcolus36> codebrainz, thanks ;-) not sure how that helps but ... yeah.
[05:26] <Sereph> er...
[05:26] <tabmaw_has_AIDS> I got a postcard from him
[05:26] <kzona1600> this is really insane
[05:26] <kzona1600> im new to this
[05:26] <tabmaw_has_AIDS> cause we had boned
[05:26] <doormat81> theadmin, but still worth learning it if this is my first venture into linux programming?
[05:26] <T1750> wow i forgot how cool midnight commander is
[05:26] <T1750> :)
[05:26] <soreau> FreetodrinkSR: Please don't pm me
[05:26] <Sereph> dde: try this... c; for Java_Alternative in java keytool orbd rmid rmiregistry; do sudo update-alternatives --config "$Java_Alternative"; done
[05:26] <maco> doormat81: py2 isnt going away any time soon. they're going to be developed in parallel
[05:26] <Kamilion> doormat81: "Both" -- the differences with 3.x and 2.6 are fairly minor; and some of the 3.x syntax is already being backported to 2.6. Keep in mind, most of the embedded python interpreters you'll run across will be 2.5 or 2.6 based.
[05:26] <FreetodrinkSR> Gotcha.
[05:26] <theadmin> doormat81: I'm learning Python2... goes fine so far
[05:26] <kzona1600> O_O
[05:26] <codebrainz> marcolus36, hehee.  sorry
[05:26] <Corruption> Hallö
[05:26] <nomad> /home/nomad/.xchat2   so just add my script into that folder ?
[05:26] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: I don't tend to compile programs for Ubuntu, install from source, its not that difficult to do,  but guideing complete newbies to do that hrm
[05:26] <soreau> FreetodrinkSR: So you're chrooting. From what to what? (elaborate0
[05:26] <nomad> sounds too easy
[05:26] <Kane_Hart> good evening. I have mysql installed but I was wondering if there is an amazing easy guide or site out there to install say lamp with working dns so I can add ns1/ns2 domain.com and also even be able to do dns subdomains like s2.domain.com to other ips and such............ =)
[05:26]  * Sereph hides from h00k 
[05:26] <hufx> T1750: MC really rocks
[05:27] <kzona1600> and i thought i was smart with computers, i think i still have a shit load to learn, O_o
[05:27] <T1750> hufx: i hadn't used it in about like 10 years
[05:27] <FreetodrinkSR> soreau: Ubuntu Live CD to Ubuntu Partition. I need to update/re-install grub.
[05:27] <codebrainz> Kane_Hart, see google.com
[05:27] <sebsebseb> Ok so Gryllida wants to install sage however it seems he would have to install from source,  and its only his second day with Ubuntu, anyone want to help him?
[05:27] <Jordan_U> doormat81: I would personally just learn python 3
[05:27] <T1750> installed it because i wanted a progress bar and had a look around, it's awesome
[05:27] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: ok I'll do it, no problem
[05:27] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: I want to go soon in fact
[05:27] <doormat81> Kamilion, maco, theadmin, well the app I'm planning to develop is only for my use so I should be good, right?
[05:27] <wise_crypt> !lamp | Kane_Hart
[05:27] <codebrainz> why am i recommending google, i hate google now
[05:27] <theadmin> doormat81: Yeah, then
[05:27] <Corruption> Iḿ using Windows 7; Does anybody know how to Dual-Boot Ubuntu with it?
[05:27] <dde> Sereph, c: command not found
[05:27] <kzona1600> i do
[05:27] <hufx> T1750: Its wasent around 10 yrs ago!
[05:27] <Kamilion> doormat81: yep! Still a good idea to be aware of the differences though.
[05:28]  * Sereph is lost
[05:28] <doormat81> Okay... thank you everyone ( Jordan_U, theadmin, maco Kamilion)
[05:28] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: no problem, just I did not know why it was absent in the repo, I'll handle it I think
[05:28] <kzona1600> ive done it without wubi
[05:28] <theadmin> Corruption: Sure thing, uh, do you have Win7 or Ubuntu installed now?
[05:28] <sebsebseb> if anyone wants to help  Gryllida  install sage from source feel free to,  only his second day with Ubuntu, and I want to go soon. http://www.sagemath.org/download.html
[05:28] <T1750> hufx: yes it was it was called NORTON commander :P
[05:28] <wise_crypt> !grub2 | Corruption
[05:28] <Corruption> Windows 7
[05:28] <Jordan_U> FreetodrinkSR: Follow this guide: http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[05:28] <kzona1600> Windows 8
[05:28] <T1750> hufx: they are of course not the same but close enuf
[05:28] <CaptainTrek> !offtopic
[05:28] <Kamilion> doormat81: Python is a slippery path: once you understand the meat of it, you'll start running across it everywhere.
[05:28] <theadmin> Corruption: Great, just repartition the hard drive, put Ubuntu on the second partition and you're free to go
[05:28] <Sereph> dde: should work just fine. it works for me
[05:29] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: there might be instructions in the download, you extract it,  and then run a few commands, to install basicalley
[05:29] <kzona1600> lol im still on Ubuntu 7.04
[05:29] <hufx> T1750: yeah bit that was for windoz folks
[05:29] <FreetodrinkSR> Jordan_U: I'll try it, thank you.
[05:29] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: thank you for the user account explanation, I develop firefox addons, not that I'm completely new to technical things, just it'd be a bit slow
[05:29] <Sereph> dde: what shell do you use?
[05:29] <h0rnman> Does anyone have any thoughts on how to get wireless working properly on Lucid using a rt73usb driver?  My current situation is an unstable connection until I disable wireless, manually set power setting to off (iwconfig) and then reenable wireless
[05:29] <dde> Sereph, gnome terminal
[05:29] <Jordan_U> FreetodrinkSR: You're welcome
[05:29] <Corruption> I used the Disk management utility to partition 20 Gb of it; but When I get to step 5 I believe it is during installation; I don´t know exactly what to set it to.
[05:29] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: sometimes it can be a good idea to download some programs that help with  compliing as well
[05:29] <theadmin> Corruption: Excuse me?
[05:29] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: well some account stuff I left out, since wasn't that relivent for the issue
[05:30] <h00k> kzona1600: that version isn't supported anymore
[05:30] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: if at all
[05:30] <sebsebseb> !7.04 | kzona1600
[05:30] <Ubuntu_and_Coffe> Codebrainzed can i add u seem to no alot about ubuntu i need a good refresh if u dont want to be jsut say no its fine
[05:30] <kzona1600> lol I Know i did it just to piss my dad off LMAO
[05:30] <kzona1600> he hates 7.04
[05:30] <CaptainTrek> !language | kzona1600
[05:30] <Sereph> dde: that isnt your shell thats a terminal emulator
[05:30] <theadmin> Corruption: Go to specify partitions manually, choose that partition you made for Ubuntu, reformat it to ext4 and set / as mount point. Then, mount all other partitions somewhere under /media... like /media/1 etc
[05:30] <sebsebseb> kzona1600: yes its no longer supported by security updates
[05:30] <sebsebseb> kzona1600: time to upgrade really
[05:31] <kzona1600> i know that
[05:31] <Sereph> dde: tell me what echo $SHELL says
[05:31] <kzona1600> i did it to make my dad mad
[05:31] <wise_crypt> !install | Corruption
[05:31] <kzona1600> lawl
[05:31] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: oh right well if you done Firefox add ons, you will probably be alright compileing from source
[05:31] <sebsebseb> !compile | Gryllida
[05:31] <T1750> http://ivarch.com/programs/pv.shtml
[05:31] <Corruption> thx will try
[05:31] <T1750> how the hell does it know how long its gunna take
[05:32] <Sereph> !language | T1750
[05:32] <T1750> ah it doesn't i see now
[05:32] <Sereph> :)
[05:32] <T1750> ubottu: heck is bad language?
[05:32] <kzona1600> btw, i was wondering if any of you could help me with, the atheros AR5007EG wifi card with Ubuntu 10.04
[05:32] <T1750> people make up bad words just to have something to complain about
[05:32] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: I'll be using maxima for a while, and be trying to install the sagemath too.. thank you very much!
[05:32] <soreau_> marcolus36: It says it failed to init the nvidia kernel module. Can you check the output of 'lsmod|egrep "nouveau|nvidia"|grep -v grep' to see which module (if any) is loaded? If nouveau is loaded, blacklist it. If none or nvidia is loaded, reinstall the proprietary nvidia glx driver
[05:32] <soreau_> FreetodrinkSR: Ah, did you review the grub guide on chrooting?
[05:33] <celeritas> !language | T1750
[05:33] <kzona1600> it drops connection when i unplug the laptop power cable
[05:33] <celeritas> hehe
[05:33] <theadmin> Holy init! This channel is noisy today...
[05:33] <Kamilion> T1750: oooh, pv looks yummy for one of my scripts...
[05:33] <T1750> it's your channel i will follow your rules but dressing me down for h*** is crazy
[05:33] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: I don't know what maxima is?
[05:33] <hufx> T1750: lamguage please     Ive bin hit gefore!
[05:33] <T1750> HECK is banned to?
[05:33] <sebsebseb> T1750: theres a no swearing and such rule here
[05:33] <hufx> T1750: lamguage please     Ive bin hit b*efore!
[05:33] <Kamilion> T1750: Intent, not word.
[05:33] <dde> Sereph, /bin/bash
[05:33] <dsnyders> !backup
[05:33] <T1750> er
[05:33] <T1750> ok
[05:33] <celeritas> T1750, sereph
[05:33] <kzona1600> !
[05:34] <Sereph> celeritas: yes?
[05:34] <T1750> i'm prepared to put up with quite a bit of nonsense rules and beurocracy but in the uk we call that "jobsworth"
[05:34] <Kamilion> t1750: the intent is no swearing; thus all related words. Even the ones that are borderline :)
[05:34] <Sereph> dde: that command should work just fine.
[05:34] <dde> Sereph, what command?!
[05:34] <kzona1600> Can i have some help please?
[05:34] <Sereph> dde: c; for Java_Alternative in java keytool orbd rmid rmiregistry; do sudo update-alternatives --config "$Java_Alternative"; done
[05:35] <celeritas> Sereph, what other keywords does ubottu respond to. would !help work?
[05:35] <celeritas> !help
[05:35] <Sereph> celeritas: you can pm it
[05:35] <celeritas> ah
[05:35] <sebsebseb> !bot | celeritas
[05:35] <hufx> T1750: well in EIRE wel call it BS***
[05:36] <kzona1600> But idont really know how to use Xchat :(
[05:36] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: maxima is another math app
[05:36] <soreau> kzona1600: What do you need to do?
[05:36] <sebsebseb> Gryllida: oh right ok, that works on Linux or?  also thats cool you make Firefox add ons, such as,  well thats a bit off topic, could pm that though
[05:36] <Gryllida> kzona1600: #xchat ... and welcome to IRC :P
[05:37] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: I'm in maxima right now
[05:37] <Gryllida> sebsebseb: it's in the repo and works fine
[05:37] <kzona1600> i need to know why my wifi card keeps droping connection on the battery
[05:37] <kzona1600> thank you
[05:37] <Sereph> sebsebseb: Gryllida you can talk about offtopic in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:37] <Gryllida> !wifi
[05:37] <hufx> T1750 does PV work with http data?
[05:37] <sebsebseb> Sereph: yes, but I am not going there at the moment :)
[05:37] <ckhikuzad> how do i bind F1 to close in screen?
[05:37] <soreau> kzona1600: 'wifi card keeps droping connection on the battery' doesn't really make much sense. Can you elaborate?
[05:37] <Sereph> sebsebseb: why not I love it in there
[05:38] <sebsebseb> Sereph: well I don't like it much there
[05:38] <kzona1600> ok, well i have the Acer Aspire One, and i just put 10.04 on it
[05:38] <Sereph> hufx: he couldn't handle rules and left.
[05:38] <kzona1600> and everytime i have it run on the battery the wifi connection drops
[05:38] <kzona1600> like im not sure why
[05:39] <soreau> kzona1600: Ah, that's an interesting bug
[05:39] <hufx> Sereph: left?
[05:39] <ckhikuzad> seriously, i need to know how to bind a key to close (not an escape sequence)
[05:39] <ckhikuzad> in screen.
[05:39] <h0rnman> kzona1600, have you tried disabling power settings for your wireless card?
[05:39] <Sereph> hufx: -!- T1750 [~T1750@87.113.96.105.plusnet.pte-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has left #ubuntu []
[05:39] <kzona1600> THat it what i need to know how to do :(
[05:39] <kzona1600> please help
[05:40] <h0rnman> sudo iwconfig wlan0 power off
[05:40] <kzona1600> terminal?
[05:40] <h0rnman> substitue wlan0 for the interface your wireless is on
[05:40] <h0rnman> and ye
[05:40] <h0rnman> *yes
[05:40] <hufx> Sereph: oh taat left!  hehe
[05:40] <T1750> and you can forget about me submitting those bug reports i was going to as well, your policy is excessive and damaging to freedom of speech kids don't explode when they hear an intention to curse
[05:40] <soreau> kzona1600: Only if, iwcoonfig reports your wifi interface as 'wlan0;
[05:40] <soreau> 'wlan0'
[05:41] <soreau> iwconfig*
[05:41] <kzona1600> how do i check that
[05:41] <hufx> Sereph: left?
[05:41] <celeritas> ckhikuzad: xmodmap?
[05:41] <soreau> kzona1600: Simply run 'iwconfig' in your terminal
[05:41] <Kamilion> ow my sides ache from laughing so hard
[05:41] <Sereph> hufx: he seems to have come back to complain then left again...
[05:41] <kzona1600> YEP its wlan0
[05:41] <soreau> ! who | kzona1600
[05:41] <ckhikuzad> celeritas, i am not using X. i am using screen right now.
[05:42] <soreau> kzona1600: Now run 'sudo iwconfig wlan0 power off' and see if it helps
[05:42] <h0rnman> kzona1600,  then run the command that I suggested, and that should disable power management
[05:42] <ckhikuzad> i want to know how to
[05:42] <kzona1600> ok ill try
[05:42] <hufx> Sereph: so good bye to him then!
[05:42] <ckhikuzad> bind 'ctrl+a k'  to F1
[05:42] <h0rnman> power management in wireless devices seems to be problematic in Lucid
[05:43] <Sereph> hufx: indeed
[05:43] <Timman68> Enter text here... trouble with the new 10.04?
[05:43] <kzona1600> umm i dont want to be a pest but what was the cmd again?
[05:43] <soreau> kzona1600: Now run 'sudo iwconfig wlan0 power off' and see if it helps
 terminal?
[05:44] <soreau> kzona1600: Yes
[05:44] <soreau> ! terminal | kzona1600
[05:44] <kzona1600> i got an error
[05:44] <Kamilion> man, what a poorly thought out commandstring. I would expect that to send the device *into* deep powersave, not disable power management. *shakes head*
[05:44] <Timman68> ever since I downloaded the up grade to 10.04 my coumputer screen all of a sudden flashes a black screen with something about the battery
[05:44] <soreau> kzona1600: Pastebin it if more than 3 lines
[05:44] <soreau> ! paste | kzona1600
[05:44] <andrew_> what pastebin is the best??
[05:44] <kzona1600> its saying the opperation is not supported
[05:45] <h0rnman> Kamilion, I couldn't agree more :)
[05:45] <soreau> andrew_: pastebin.com/org or pastie.org work fine
[05:45] <kzona1600> i cant keep up with your guys typing rofl
[05:45] <kzona1600> lol
[05:45] <celeritas> ckhikuzad: bindkey
[05:45] <soreau> kzona1600: I guess your card/driver doesn't support power modes then
[05:45] <kzona1600> well it was worth a try
[05:45] <Timman68> any one? help with 10.04
[05:45] <Guest11204> @soreau thanks
[05:46] <Piccolo48> My ubuntu still wont connect to the internet
[05:46] <soreau> kzona1600: The first real step to take is figuring out what the problem is exactly
[05:46] <h0rnman> soreau, which would be....odd...but again, I suppose I've seen stranger
[05:46] <kzona1600> it could be the router
[05:46] <kzona1600> i guess
[05:46] <soreau> kzona1600: Do you see anything interesting in the output of 'dmesg' after going to battery and wifi doesn't work?
[05:46] <Piccolo48> ALthough I downloaded fwcutter, dkps, and bcmwl-kernel, ubunti still wont connect to the internet
[05:47] <kzona1600> dmesg???
[05:47] <soreau> kzona1600: Yes, dmesg is a way to dump your entire kernel log, since you booted
[05:47] <kiamo> is there a repo that includes skype?
[05:47] <epin8r> kiamo: yes
[05:47] <kzona1600> how do i look at that?
[05:47] <soreau> kzona1600: Should give technical info as well as info about modules it's using
[05:48] <kiamo> epin8r, which one?  medibuntu repos dont have skype
[05:48] <soreau> kzona1600: Simply type 'dmesg' in your terminal
[05:48] <Piccolo48> Should I download ubuntu 64 bit?
[05:48] <celeritas> out
[05:48] <soreau> Piccolo48: For what target cpu?
[05:48] <Piccolo48> Am I less likely to have internet problems if I download 64 bit ubuntu?
[05:48] <kzona1600> looks normal too me
[05:49] <soreau> Piccolo48: Not particularly less likely. You would have to try it. What problem are you having with internet?
[05:49] <soreau> kzona1600: Well that was my only idea
[05:50] <Piccolo48> It wont even detect the wirlesss network.  I thought it was because I had a broadcom, but even downloading the appropriate packages for that did not fix it
[05:50] <kzona1600> hey soreau how do i measage people personaly?
[05:50] <soreau> Piccolo48: You probably did it wrong
[05:50] <soreau> Piccolo48: Try again
[05:50] <soreau> ! broadcom | Piccolo48
[05:50] <Piccolo48> I already did that
[05:50] <soreau> kzona1600: /msg <nick> personal message
[05:50] <Piccolo48> someone gave me the same advice and I followed it overkill
[05:51] <kzona1600> ummm
[05:51] <Polly55> Hey everyone new to this whole thing wanting to try ubuntu have copied the image to cd and tried rebooting but keep getting stuck any ideas?
[05:51] <kzona1600> i just typed it
[05:51] <soreau> Piccolo48: I do not know enough about broadcom to help but I know it takes extra effort to get it working from what I've heard
[05:52] <kzona1600> and nothing happend
[05:52] <soreau> kzona1600: substitute <nick> with the real nick of the nick you're trying to pm
[05:52] <soreau> ! pm | kzona1600
[05:52] <Piccolo48> My guess is that there is a flat out bug here
[05:52] <ubutom> Polly55, you have to burn the image, not copy it to cd
[05:52] <Piccolo48> but ok, ill figure it out myself like I should.  Thanks for that guide though I should reread it
[05:53] <Polly55> ok yeah sorry bad terminology
[05:53] <Polly55> im pretty sure that is what i have done
[05:53] <ubutom> Polly55, is it booting up?
[05:53] <Polly55> gets to a screen thats mostly black
[05:54] <Polly55> but with a keyboard looking picture and  small man in a circle down the bottom of the screen
[05:54] <Polly55> then it just stops
[05:54] <kzona1600> Im really confused i know what to do but someone just told me not to, im new to ubuntu and a freind told me to use this program if i had any questions, but its really confuseing
[05:54] <kzona1600> ahhhh
[05:54] <soreau> kzona1600: You will get it ;)
[05:55] <ubutom> Polly55, so you can choose a language and keyboard layout?
[05:55] <Sereph> once I create swap will ubuntu pick up on it right away or does it needa  reboot
[05:55] <Kamilion> Polly55: How long did you wait at splash screen?
[05:55] <kzona1600> ok, i sure hope so
[05:55] <Sereph> kzona1600: told you not to do what
[05:55] <dde> could anyone please help me with jnpl files
[05:55] <Polly55> it let me choose the language once
[05:55] <dde> they give me 60 errors when i try to run them
[05:56] <Polly55> left it on the splash screen for about 30 mins
[05:56] <kzona1600> to PM people without permission, but how can i do that if i dont know what im doing
[05:56] <kzona1600> lol
[05:56] <Kamilion> Polly55: And pressing enter a couple times does not start the disc?
[05:56] <h0rnman> kzona1600, try opening a terminal, typing 'iwconfig', then copy/paste the results to ubuntu.pastebin.com and then post your pastebin URL to the channel
[05:56] <h0rnman> I want to see some information about your wireless card
[05:56] <Sereph> yeah dont pm people without permission ;), makes it hard for others to enter the conversation :)
[05:56] <kzona1600> okay? ill try that
[05:56] <Polly55> the disc seems to be running but i didnt press any keys
[05:57] <dde> ok I would just like to know, how do you run a jnlp file
[05:57] <Kamilion> Polly55: The splash screen is only the loader... try pressing enter a couple times
[05:57] <Polly55> ok ill give that a shot thanks heaps!!!
[05:58] <Polly55> should tht happen before or after i select language
[05:58] <Kamilion> after
[05:58] <Polly55> ok well its happening before
[05:58] <Kamilion> it should show a small menu "try ubuntu" or something similar
[05:58] <Polly55> yeah dont get that t ll
[05:58] <X5X> How can I installed multimedia support on Lubuntu 10.04? On Ubuntu I would just install ubuntu-restricted-extras, and there also also *buntu-restricted-extras packages for Kubuntu and Xubuntu. What do I need to get multimedia support on Lubuntu?
[05:58] <frobisher> Is there a good tutorial in seting up 10.4.
[05:58] <Polly55> at all*
[05:58] <ubutom> Polly55, make sure to boot from the cdrom
[05:58] <Kamilion> might have gotten a bad disc; there should be an option in that menu to "verify CD", usually takes a little while if you select it.
[05:59] <kzona1600> OK I GOT IT :D
[05:59] <kzona1600> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d2Rc3D5h
[05:59] <kzona1600> yay
[05:59] <ubutom> Polly55,  and as Kamilion said, it takes some time, after language selection and menu it takes a few minutes to boot ub the livecd
[05:59] <alex5454> hey everyone.  quick question.  I just installed dgen genesis emulator from the software center and have no idea where it installed to?
[05:59] <X5X> How can I installed multimedia support on Lubuntu 10.04? On Ubuntu I would just install ubuntu-restricted-extras, and there also also *buntu-restricted-extras packages for Kubuntu and Xubuntu. What do I need to get multimedia support on Lubuntu?
[06:00] <h0rnman> alright, are you on that wireless connection now, or are you on the wired connection?
[06:00] <kzona1600> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d2Rc3D5h
[06:00] <kzona1600> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d2Rc3D5h
[06:00] <h0rnman> alex5454, try 'whereis dgen'
[06:00] <Kamilion> alex5454: I think dgen's a commandline program, you need a frontend or just alt-f2 'dgen'
[06:00] <Polly55> problem is im not getting lnguge selection
[06:00] <Neroon> Hi there. Anyone here that could tell me, if it's possible to backup only the data from a partition with dd?
[06:01] <ubutom> alex5454, dpkg -L dgen
[06:01] <theadmin> X5X: So far there is no special package for it, go with ubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:01] <Kamilion> Neroon: Nope, DD is a stream dump, doesn't do filtering.
[06:01] <Kamilion> Neroon: I would suggest tar
[06:02] <X5X> theadmin: okay thanks
[06:02] <h0rnman> kzona1600, now do the same for 'sudo lspci'
[06:02] <Jordan_U> Polly55: Press any key early in the boot process of the LiveCD and you will get a boot menu. One of the options is to check the disk for defects (from a bad burn/scratches). Can you try that option?
[06:02] <Neroon> Kamilion: I almost thought so ... thanks. And tar even works with the partition with the system folders in it?
[06:02] <kzona1600> ok
[06:03] <Kamilion> Neroon: I think you need to specify -p in there somewhere to preserve permissions; and you need to --exclude /dev and /sys and /proc...
[06:03] <Neroon> Kamilion: The thing is, i accidently installed lucid on a 50gb partition, cause i thought it was a 10gb only ...
[06:04] <Kamilion> yeah, dd will give you a 50GB file.
[06:04] <Maarten> what is the linux mint channel?
[06:04] <kzona1600> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/t9qyLQeT
[06:04] <kzona1600> ther
[06:04] <Neroon> Kamilion: No, i want to delete that partition and install it on a smaller one
[06:04] <Gryllida> Maarten: ##linuxmint
[06:04] <Maarten> ah
[06:04] <Maarten> thanks :)
[06:05] <Maarten> lol 3 people there :P
[06:05] <Kamilion> Neroon: If you havn't made many changes; you should be safe to just tarball up your homedir with sudo tar -cvf /home/username.tar /home/username
[06:05] <bodzilla> 4th
[06:05] <kzona1600> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/t9qyLQeT
[06:06] <kzona1600> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/t9qyLQeT
[06:07] <h0rnman> ok...try installing this package:  linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-generic
[06:07] <Kamilion> Neroon: then you can just copy that tarball off somewhere and kill the partition, and use the CD to reinstall. Then just extract the tarball on the new install.
[06:08] <h0rnman> it seems that there are reports of that fixing various and sundry wireless issues on your card
[06:08] <Shambler> Kamilion: Sorry. Neroon here. Got disconnected ...
[06:08] <dde> Sereph, do you think this could have been caused by the fact that about 5kb of my hdd is corrupted?
[06:08] <Kamilion> h0rnman: Where'd you run across that one? Sounds like it might be useful on one of my laptops.
[06:08] <kzona1600> i dont think my card was made for linux anyway lol
[06:08] <kzona1600> i got this puter wif Windows XP on it
[06:09] <Shambler> Kamilion: Could you resednd the last message, please?
[06:09] <h0rnman> its the standard wireless backport driver package...it gets thrown around here and there on the forums
[06:09] <Kamilion> Shambler: If you havn't made many changes; you should be safe to just tarball up your homedir with sudo tar -cvf /home/username.tar /home/username && chown username.username /home/username.tar
[06:09] <Kamilion> Shambler: then you can just copy that tarball off somewhere and kill the partition, and use the CD to reinstall. Then just extract the tarball on the new install.
[06:09] <Shambler> Kamilion: Thanks. I know that, but the changes aren
[06:09] <kzona1600> ok what was thw backport cmd???
[06:09] <Shambler> Kamilion: t limited to my home folder ...
[06:09] <h0rnman> kzona1600, go to terminal, type 'sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-generic'
[06:10] <Kamilion> kzona1600: sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-generic
[06:10] <h0rnman> then reboot and try again
[06:11] <Kamilion> Shambler: It's always a poor idea to mess with directories outside your homedir. Unless you're talking about the packages you installed; and it's easy to backup that list of packages and ask the new install to reinstall them.
[06:11] <h0rnman> I think I remember reading somewhere in an investigation into my own wireless woes that part of the wireless stack was rewritten for Lucid.  Since those Atheros cards have always been kinda off in Ubuntu, I figure rolling back some drivers may do the trick
[06:12] <Shambler> Kamilion: It's not only that, but even reinstalling all the stuff really sucks with 384kbit/sec. That takes forever and a day
[06:12] <kzona1600> yea
[06:12] <Kamilion> Shambler: sudo dpkg --get-selections | grep '[[:space:]]install$' | awk '{print $1}' > package_list
[06:12] <Kamilion> that's a fun one to type out.
[06:12] <ubutom> Shambler, 56 k modem was far worse :P
[06:12] <FreetodrinkSR> Jordan_U: Thank you for the link bud. I'm happily back in my Ubuntu and the bootloader worked amazingly well.
[06:13] <h0rnman> kzona1600, also as an idea, if you're not committed to 10.04 (Lucid Lynx), you could always download and install 9.10 (Karmic Koala)
[06:13] <Shambler> Kamilion: I started with 14,4 k 16 years ago :-)
[06:13] <Jordan_U> FreetodrinkSR: You're welcome.
[06:13] <kzona1600> Well, thanks guys i think im going to go to bed now, its like 1:12 ill fix it tommorw
[06:13] <h0rnman> kzona1600, I may end up going that route myself here soon
[06:13] <kzona1600> oh, ok
[06:13] <kzona1600> cool
[06:14] <Kamilion> Shambler: dump /var/cache/apt/archives/* somewhere on your network and restore it
[06:14] <Shambler> Kamilion: I was just hoping ghost4linux would recognize the ext4 partition and could dump the data only to a .img file .... bad luck
[06:14] <kzona1600> night guys
[06:14] <Kamilion> Shambler: try partedmagic or gparted live for ext4 support. Clonezilla works too.
[06:15] <Shambler> Kamilion: k. will give these a try then. and only if none of these work, i gotta do what i dont wanna do ...
[06:15] <Jordan_U> Shambler: Look into partimage
[06:15] <dde> >:'( can anyone please help me get my .jnlp file to work
[06:15] <Kamilion> acronis trueimage v13 series is the only commercial imager I know of that handles ext4 so far.
[06:16] <Kamilion> Jordan_U: Those livecds are mostly based on partimage.
[06:16] <Shambler> Kamilion: Thanks a lot for your help. Gotta go to work
[06:16] <Kamilion> Cheers!
[06:16] <Jordan_U> Kamilion: parted != partimage.
[06:16] <Kamilion> partedmagic.org -- IIRC this version or next version's ubuntu based anyway.
[06:17] <Kamilion> ack
[06:17] <Kamilion> com
[06:17] <Mgamerz> alright
[06:17] <Mgamerz> so
[06:18] <Jordan_U> Shambler: Never mind, I just looked and was surprised to find that partimage still doesn't support ext4 :(
[06:18] <Mgamerz> i need to do some modem to modem terminal
[06:18] <Mgamerz> and http://derrick-caluag.blogspot.com/2006/10/how-to-setup-dial-in-server-on-linux.html is way outdated
[06:18] <Kamilion> Jordan_U: http://partedmagic.com/ The Parted Magic OS employs core programs of GParted and Parted to handle partitioning tasks with ease, while featuring other useful programs (e.g. Partimage, TestDisk, Truecrypt, G4L, SuperGrubDisk, ddrescue, etc...)  and it's got a nice tmpfs setup.
[06:19] <Shambler> Jordan_U: Too bad ... maybe clonezilla will be more usefull. C ya
[06:19] <Mgamerz> can anyone hlep me translate the old guide into a bit of a newer, usable one?
[06:19] <Kamilion> boot it up and it loads into a ramdrive and spits out the cd. Handy.
[06:19] <Mgamerz> mainly /etc/inittab is what kills it :/
[06:19] <zetheroo> does Rythmbox not have a graphical equaliser?
[06:20] <rafaelsoaresbr> is vuze opensource?
[06:21] <banker247> hey guys, i'm following this guide.. pretty much to the t http://openmindedbrain.info/09/05/2010/undervolting-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lts/    for some reason when i get to the cat part.. its not finding the file phc_default_vids which i believe is extracted from the modules when you do a make install.. - is there something i'm missing?
[06:22] <wildbat> is there a macro tools for ubuntu like Autoit in windows, that do mouse simulation or windows messaging?
[06:23] <Mgamerz> its amazing any help is done with all this text here
[06:23] <Kamilion> rafaelsoaresbr: Sort of. The azureus shell is -- but AFAIK the vuze plugin and server-side webpages are not.
[06:23] <Jordan_U> Kamilion: Do you happen to know what version of super grub disk they include? super grub disk isn't mentioned at all in http://partedmagic.com/programs.html (and there's at least one live distro using a really early version of super grub2 disk that's so old it's practically useless)
[06:24] <Kamilion> Jordan_U: Not sure, sec while I fire it up in vbox
[06:24] <b1ff2> HELO IZ ANYONE HURE???!
[06:24] <b1ff2> HOW 1Z GRUB2 BETTUR THAN GRUB????!
[06:24] <FloodBot4> b1ff2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:25] <rww> o.O
[06:25] <silv3r_m00n> google chrome in ubuntu 9.10 doesn't display unicode fonts
[06:25] <silv3r_m00n> how to fix ?
[06:26] <Yusuke> install the new unicode fonts
[06:26] <Yusuke> ;p
[06:26] <Yusuke> update
[06:28] <bthornton> Is there any way to "reset" the sound subsystem in Lucid without logging-out/restarting? No sound will play in anything and my mixer icon is "grayed out" as though it can't find an audio device.
[06:29] <b1ff2> U CAN RESTART EH SOUND SYSTEM WITH PULSEAUDIO -K
[06:29] <bthornton> I think I may have made the mistake of trying to run two audio applications at once... (lot to ask from an i7 system)
[06:30] <silv3r_m00n> Yusuke: how to update ?
[06:30] <silv3r_m00n> which package
[06:30] <silv3r_m00n> ?
[06:30] <bthornton> b1ff2: good idea but didn't seem to work. I can't even kill pulseaudio
[06:30] <bthornton> with killall
[06:30] <Jordan_U> !caps | b1ff2
[06:30] <etrask> bthornton: even using kill -9 ?
[06:30] <Kamilion> Jordan_U: There's two listed. Super Grub Disk 1 and Super Grub Disk 2. Super Grub Disk 1 is "0.97-os.1"
[06:31] <bthornton> etrask: haven't tried... willl have to see which PID
[06:31] <bthornton> okay kill -9 got it
[06:31] <etrask> I was ecstatic when I found the -9 switch. It basically doesn't "ask" the program to shutdown
[06:32] <bthornton> okay so I killed pulseaudio and it respawned (which is fine I guess), but still no audio
[06:32] <etrask> Not too knowledgable in that area, sorry :(
[06:32] <bthornton> one of the apps I was running was Amarok and it probably uses some different audio device which, I'm guessing, is competing with pulseaudio
[06:32] <bthornton> 'cause that's about the point at which I lost sound.
[06:33] <Kamilion> .... And I booped up my grub4dos config to load supergrubdisk2 on this iso, can't get a version from it. Grabbing the normal ver...
[06:33] <bthornton> etrask: ah, well thanks anyway
[06:33] <banker247> what does this mean?
[06:33] <banker247> You need to have at least your kernel-headers installed.
[06:33] <banker247> You also need the build essentials (gcc, libc, make, etc).
[06:33] <banker247> build essentials part..
[06:33] <bazhang> banker247, install build-essential
[06:33] <etrask> banker247: there is a package called build-essentials
[06:33] <etrask> contains the things you've listed there
[06:34] <banker247> is that prolly while my module i'm trying to make install isn't working properly?
[06:34] <bazhang> !b-e
[06:34] <ubutom> banker247, have you done step 1-3?
[06:34] <banker247> yea
[06:35] <banker247> i've  gotten all the way to the part where you check the cat
[06:35] <banker247> and it doesn't find the file..
[06:35] <ubutom> banker247, in step 2 you install the sources and then you have to use the phc kernel
[06:35] <banker247> so i think its something to do with my package
[06:35] <banker247> right i'm in the kernel now
[06:35] <jmichaelx>  is anyone else having problems reaching security.ubuntu.com?
[06:35] <banker247> cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/phc_default_vids
[06:35] <banker247> cat: /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/phc_default_vids: No such file or directory
[06:35] <banker247> this is where i'm at
[06:35] <ubutom> hhm
[06:36] <banker247> so whats happneing is the phc_default_vids file.. is NOT being create
[06:36] <banker247> d
[06:36] <banker247> whats interesting is i did this before awhile back and its not working lol.. i just reinstalled linux
[06:36] <zetheroo> is there a system-wide graphic equaliser for Ubuntu?
[06:36] <banker247> so i thinki i'm missing osme kinda packages that make the make install work
[06:37] <Flannel> banker247: install build-essential
[06:37] <jmichaelx>  is anyone else having problems reaching security.ubuntu.com?
[06:37] <ubutom> banker247, but you have the script loaded, right?
[06:37] <banker247> Flannel its installed i just reinstalled it
[06:37] <Kamilion> zetheroo: several, but they're all pains to install.
[06:37] <Flannel> banker247: then you should be able to compile fine
[06:37] <ubutom> banker247, the script he wrote, http://openmindedbrain.info/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/intel-phc-undervolt.bash
[06:37] <zetheroo> Kamilion: hmm ok
[06:38] <banker247> ubutom i'm not running the script i already know my undervolt settings
[06:38] <ubutom> banker247, I guess you have to execute that first before there is any phc_default_vids file
[06:38] <banker247> oh really?
[06:38] <ubutom> banker247, as i said, a guess
[06:38] <Kamilion> zetheroo: they rely on doing weird things like setting jack up and using a LADSP eq plugin or other hackery like that.
[06:38] <banker247> because in the guide he sais.. after sudo make install then you check for the phc_default_vids
[06:39] <Kamilion> zetheroo: You might have better luck poking around in pulseaudio or finding a player with an eq like xmms2 used to have.
[06:39] <nits> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1504415 help please
[06:39] <zetheroo> Kamilion: yeah, no worries ... I was just hopeing there was something simple to install :)
[06:39] <ubutom> banker247, so it fails at compiling.. hm
[06:39] <banker247> no it doesn't fail
[06:39] <zetheroo> Kamilion: I am just surprised that Rhythmbox doesn't have one still ...
[06:39] <Kamilion> zetheroo: I dunno if the pulseaudio utilities have an eq or not offhand.
[06:39] <Kamilion> zetheroo: it doesn't have a plugin for one?
[06:40] <banker247> ubutom i get good mesages durreing compile nothing crazy.. just that file isn't created
[06:40] <jmichaelx> is security.ubuntu.com unreachable for anyone else right now?
[06:40] <banker247> ubutom which means the module doesn't install or somethin
[06:40] <zetheroo> Kamilion: not that I know of
[06:40] <phong_> hi guys
[06:40] <phong_> anyone in the house?
[06:40] <Pupeno> Is there a clipboard manager that works in ubuntu 10.04
[06:40] <Pupeno> ?
[06:41] <Kamilion> zetheroo: http://code.google.com/p/rbeq/
[06:41] <Kamilion> Tada.
[06:41] <jmichaelx> geesh...
[06:41] <ubutom> banker247, maybe it has to be loaded first, would try a reboot or starting the module manually, whcih i lack knowledge of right now ;)
[06:41] <ubutom> the command that is
[06:42] <ubuntu> !flash
[06:42] <jmichaelx> to load manually = 'sudo modprobe module-name'
[06:42] <zetheroo> Kamilion: found this ... http://www.lirmm.fr/~morandat/index.php/Main/Tools
[06:42] <ubutom> banker247, something with modprobe, yea, what jmichaelx said :D
[06:42] <nits> http://paste.ubuntu.com/446464/ i can't hashcheck please help
[06:43] <banker247> what should i load with the modprobe?
[06:43] <booklover206> msg netserv snowy66 booklover206@gmail.com
[06:43] <Kamilion> zetheroo: Looks like two competing projects that don't know eachother! Heh! http://cornerofseven.com/blog/ is rbeq's home blog
[06:44] <zetheroo> Kamilion: interesting
[06:44] <jmichaelx> banker247: is there a kernel module you are trying to compile, then load?
[06:44] <Kane_Hart> where is usally the default location of the html docs located on a fresh lamp install or wheres the config
[06:44] <Zeu5> hi i have an issue with my xampp. i keep getting this another mysql daemon is running. i ran ps aux |grep mysql i get the following http://paste.ubuntu.com/446466/
[06:44] <nits> i get this error wen i hashcheck a torrent
[06:44] <nits> http://paste.ubuntu.com/446464/
[06:44] <banker247> im trying to do this
[06:44] <banker247> http://openmindedbrain.info/09/05/2010/undervolting-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lts/
[06:44] <Zeu5> i have already restarted a few times. the error persists
[06:44] <phong_> are there any good mail client for ubuntu?
[06:44] <Kamilion> zetheroo: The french dude's has seven commits, from late january 2010 to early feb2010 and then stops.
[06:44] <ubuntu> where can i find the ~/.mozilla/plugins ?
[06:44] <ubutom> phong_, thunderbird, evolution, many many others
[06:44] <nits> phong_ thunderbird and evolution
[06:45] <banker247> and when i get to the part when i run cat to find the file the phc
[06:45] <banker247> cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/phc_default_vids
[06:45] <banker247> cat: /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/phc_default_vids: No such file or directory
[06:45] <banker247> i get this
[06:45] <Kane_Hart> where is usally the default location of the html docs located on a fresh lamp install or wheres the config
[06:45] <FloodBot4> banker247: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:45] <Zeu5> hi i have an issue with my xampp. i keep getting this another mysql daemon is running. i ran ps aux |grep mysql i get the following http://paste.ubuntu.com/446466/ i have restarted a few times. the problem persists
[06:45] <ubuntu> how can I copy/paste some file as root?
[06:45] <zetheroo> Kamilion: so not as dependable for updates?
[06:45] <jmichaelx> banker247: carreful about flooding the channel
[06:46] <nomad77> !sudo > ubuntu
[06:46] <Kamilion> oh neat, rbeq's real easy to install... just extract it in your homedir's .gnome2 folder; it's only a bit of python!
[06:46] <jmichaelx> banker247: did you follow each step in this tutorial?
[06:46] <banker247> yea
[06:47] <phong_> how to get evolution mail client for ubuntu ?
[06:47] <zetheroo> Kamilion: yeah i got it ... works :)
[06:47] <zetheroo> thank you!
[06:47] <banker247> jmichaelx i'm in the kernel and everything i think i must be missing something because that file isn't being created
[06:47] <nits> some one please help me i get error wen i hash check a torrent http://paste.ubuntu.com/446464/ please private message
[06:47] <Polly55> back again, how long after selecting try ubuntu when first loding should u have to wait till something happens?
[06:47] <Kamilion> How do I add a factoid to ubottu?
[06:47] <Jordan_U> Kamilion: /msg ubottu factoid is foo
[06:48] <Kamilion> Thanks! will use the keyword rbeq.
[06:48] <jmichaelx> banker247: what cpu are you using?
[06:48] <banker247> core2duo
[06:48] <zetheroo> Kamilion: you going to add this as a factoid?
[06:48] <jmichaelx> banker247: mobile core2duo?
[06:48] <banker247> yea
[06:48] <ubuntu> how can i move libflashplayer.so from my desktop to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins? please someone tell me how :(
[06:48] <banker247> whats wierd is.. i had this working before i just reinstalled linux on a new HD
[06:49] <banker247> and trying to get it setup again - i dont know if i'm missing some packages? to make this compile properly or whta
[06:49] <phong_> how to compile evolution?
[06:49] <jmichaelx> banker247: what is the output for 'uname -r'?
[06:49] <nits> phong_ it comes by default with ubuntu
[06:49] <Kamilion> ubottu: rbeq is the Rhythmbox 10-band Equalizer found at http://rbeq.googlecode.com/ -- easy to install, just extract to ~/.gnome2/ and enable the plugin in Rhythmbox!
[06:49] <banker247> 2.6.32-22-generic-phc
[06:51] <Kamilion> Hope that's a useful factoid for others :D
[06:51] <phong_> nits,  wheer to run it then
[06:51] <jmichaelx> banker247: and you did download the tarball, unpack it, and you ran make prepare, make, make install/?
[06:51] <banker247> jmichalx whats interesting is he sais.. if everything worked ou should see some numbers.. if ont restart and check back
[06:51] <banker247> yup
[06:51] <banker247> several times nowheh
[06:51] <nits> phong_: alt+F2 type in evolution
[06:51] <Kamilion> however it does require someone to remember to ask for the rbeq keyword ;)
[06:52] <nits> some one please help me i get error wen i hash check a torrent http://paste.ubuntu.com/446464/ please private message been posting here and the forums for about 2 and a half hours now
[06:53] <jmichaelx> banker247: do you know what the name of the module is that you compiled?
[06:53] <Kamilion> nits: use a different torrent client that doesn't rely on the deprecated sha module in python?
[06:53] <banker247> how do i check that?
[06:53] <Kamilion> I would suggest deluge if you want a console UI.
[06:54] <jmichaelx> did you not see a name after you ran make?
[06:54] <nits> Kamilion: i use rtorrent and then bitlord in windows but it doesn't download
[06:54] <jmichaelx> make/mae install*
[06:54] <jmichaelx> make install**
[06:54] <banker247> whats the link for pastebin i'll show you all that happened
[06:54] <rww> banker247: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[06:55] <jmichaelx> banker247: what output do you get from 'lsmod | grep phc'
[06:55] <Kamilion> My opinion is that you have poor taste in torrent clients ;) utorrent and deluge are in my opinion, the most useful clients due to their STUN-like firewall jumping abilities.
[06:55] <banker247> nothing
[06:56] <nits> Kamilion: actually it worked until yesterday there was a stupid powercut and i've been having problems since
[06:56] <banker247> http://paste.ubuntu.com/446470/
[06:56] <Kamilion> Deluge has a nice client/server arch that uses a daemon to do the actual torrenting (and can continue after a logout) and your choice of frontends: console, gtk, and a nice webui.
[06:56] <Kamilion> nits: might try a fsck then?
[06:57] <Polly55> so still having trouble trying ubuntu nd would love some help can get to the menu select try ubuntu then nothing happens any ideas?
[06:57] <nits> Kamilion: How do i do a fsck for a ntfs please give me the full command
[06:57] <Kamilion> *snrtk* that's the one thing I've never gotten ubuntu to do.
[06:57] <banker247> whats strange is last time i thoght it didn't work too and i think i did it a couple times then it finally worked.. but i dont know what i did.
[06:57] <banker247> so i think this is an I D 10 T propblem .. lol
[06:58] <nits> Kamilion: lol
[06:58] <Kamilion> Try a winpe based livecd, the modern 7 based ones are quite useful for that.
[06:58] <jmichaelx> banker247: try running 'sudo modprobe phc-intel'
[06:58] <nits> Thanks Kamilion will do that
[06:58] <banker247> banker247@banker247:~/Downloads/phc-intel-0.3.2-10$ sudo modprobe phc-intel
[06:58] <banker247> FATAL: Module phc_intel not found.
[06:58] <Kamilion> other than that, the best you can do from ubuntu is just mark it dirty for chkdsk on windows.
[06:58] <jmichaelx> banker247: try running 'sudo modprobe phc-intel.ko'
[06:58] <zetheroo> will "shutdown -r now" reboot the system?
[06:59] <Kamilion> zetheroo: yes.
[06:59] <nits> Kamilion: how do i do that?
[06:59] <zetheroo> ok
[06:59] <banker247> same FATAL errorr
[06:59] <banker247> weird eh
[06:59] <jmichaelx> banker247: did you use a dash or an underscore?
[06:59] <banker247> -
[06:59] <banker247> i coppied you
[07:01] <Kamilion> nits: sec, nx is slow tonight
[07:01] <zetheroo> the main config files for samba are in /etc/samba/ right!? ...
[07:01] <ubutom_> banker247, try sudo modprobe -l | grep intel
[07:01] <Kamilion> Jordan_U: Super Grub Disk 2 is "1.96"
[07:02] <banker247> http://paste.ubuntu.com/446472/
[07:03] <ubutom_> banker247, yup, no phc in that list :(
[07:03] <Jordan_U> Kamilion: Ugh, that's 2 year old grub code, and has almost no features.
[07:03] <trijntje> is there program like top that sorts programs according to network activity?
[07:03] <jmichaelx> banker247: try running 'sudo depmod -a'
[07:03] <jmichaelx> for some reason it isn't seeing the module
[07:03] <Kamilion> Jordan_U: post it in the parted magic forums -- he's real quick about updating stuff like that.
[07:03] <Hdale85> Ok guys, I just booted the 10.04 live cd and my wireless keyboard and mouse are bluetooth and well there is no way to tell it to pair because it won't let me use them! What should I do? Usually if I pull the dongle and then reconnect it, it goes into RF mode but it's not doing it with 10.04
[07:04] <banker247> ok it ran hung for asa ec then went back to prompt
[07:04] <UbuntuBoy> Help linux users everywhere get iTunes by signing the petition: http://www.petitiononline.com/itmslin/petition.html
[07:04] <Jordan_U> Kamilion: Will do.
[07:04] <jmichaelx> banker247: what output do you get now from 'lsmod | grep intel'?
[07:04] <Kamilion> Jordan_U: I'd do it myself; but I lack the domain knowledge you exhibit to be able to satisfy him.
[07:04] <UbuntuBoy> Help linux users everywhere get iTunes by signing the petition: http://www.petitiononline.com/itmslin/petition.html
[07:05] <Jordan_U> !ot | UbuntuBoy
[07:05] <banker247> http://paste.ubuntu.com/446474/
[07:05] <Kane_Hart> this proftp stuff sucks
[07:05] <Kane_Hart> I can't get it like making users
[07:05] <Kamilion> Not sure how that would work, UbuntuBoy, considering none of apple's libraries are availalable on linux.
[07:05] <wildbat_laptop> is there a macro tools for ubuntu like Autoit in windows, that do mouse simulation or windows messaging?
[07:06] <Zeu5> hi i have an issue with my xampp. i keep getting this another mysql daemon is running whenever i restart my computer. i ran ps aux |grep mysql i get the following http://paste.ubuntu.com/446473/  this process pid 897 keeps starting up. how do i make sure it doesnt starts all the time? is it because i chose automatically start programs in my startupservice?
[07:06] <Hdale85> Ok guys, I just booted the 10.04 live cd and my wireless keyboard and mouse are bluetooth and well there is no way to tell it to pair because it won't let me use them! What should I do? Usually if I pull the dongle and then reconnect it, it goes into RF mode but it's not doing it with 10.04
[07:06] <Kamilion> Besides, this is steve jobs we're talking about here -- he's more apt to give you the finger and laugh about it than port itunes ;)
[07:06] <Sereph> dde: possible not entirely sure
[07:07] <banker247> jmichaelx maybe i'm missing a package? and its not correctly placing the modules?
[07:07] <Kamilion> nits: ntfsfix /dev/sdX
[07:07] <UbuntuBoy> Kamilion: Well I'm sure Apple can figure out someway to do it.
[07:07] <nits> Kamilion: i just put it into the terminal and that's it?
[07:07] <ubutom_> UbuntuBoy, Apple has no desire to port iTunes to Linux
[07:08] <Kamilion> UbuntuBoy: There's a big different between 'can figure out' and 'give you the finger for asking'. Apple's of the latter.
[07:08] <Kamilion> nits: yeah, that should mark it as needing a check; if you boot windows on that machine, it should automatically force a disk check.
[07:09] <UbuntuBoy> ubutom_: how'd you know that? did you work for Apple or something.
[07:09] <nits> Kamilion: Thanks :)
[07:09] <ubutom_> UbuntuBoy, what would they have from that? decreasing sells of apple hardware, and they don't want that.
[07:09] <jmichaelx> banker247: right now i am at a loss as to what to tell you.
[07:09] <Eugene89> Hello people! I have a server supporting some mysql databases and I can't seem to get the scheduled backup working. Where can I check what went wrong?
[07:10] <Kamilion> UbuntuBoy: I'm an apple shareholder, live in the bay area, and have met (and gotten flamed by) steve jobs. (and hung around with woz too while doing some volunteer work at the computer history museum)
[07:10] <banker247> i'm reading this
[07:10] <banker247> http://www.linux-phc.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=204
[07:10] <Kamilion> I can pretty much tell you flat out: Not going to happen.
[07:10] <andruk> does anybody know if aliiance vlsi is available on ubuntu?
[07:11] <Hdale85> Ok guys, I just booted the 10.04 live cd and my wireless keyboard and mouse are bluetooth and well there is no way to tell it to pair because it won't let me use them! What should I do? Usually if I pull the dongle and then reconnect it, it goes into RF mode but it's not doing it with 10.04
[07:11] <nomad77> /cl/cl
[07:11] <banker247> seems like hes having the same probe
[07:12] <courpse> Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0".
[07:12] <courpse> When trying to boot gimp.
[07:12] <no-name_> how do you mount an .iso in ubuntu?
[07:12] <UbuntuBoy> ubutom_: what really would decrease their sales is releasing iTunes for Windows which they have done
[07:12] <courpse> Nvidia gfx card, with Xinerama
[07:12] <Kamilion> And I can tell you why too: Apple has a very tight lifecycle. When they say something's deprecated or obsolete, they mean it. Poof, it's *gone*. They control the hardware, the default software, and have a nice little lockgrip on their elitist niche. Which I appreciate (hence why I'm a shareholder)
[07:12] <kubanc> what do i do, every time i open html file, i cannot see č,š,ž in gedit,leafpad, etc...
[07:12] <jmichaelx> is anyone else having issues reaching security.ubuntu.com when try to do updates?
[07:13] <Kamilion> Anyway, I'll shut my yap now ;)
[07:13] <ubutom_> UbuntuBoy, nope, windows has a large user base, it's all about money
[07:13] <Kamilion> If they don't have total control over something, they don't do it. Period.
[07:13] <ubutom_> UbuntuBoy, besides, if it wasn't available for Windows, noone with a windows box would buy ipods
[07:14] <Kamilion> and missing that 99% of the market would be a foolish move. Missing our 3% of the market will not be.
[07:14] <UbuntuBoy> Kamilion: okay from your experience  with Apple, you don't think Apple would consider it?
[07:15] <bazhang> UbuntuBoy, lets move this to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:15] <Kamilion> Nope. Zero chance. Not until chromeos hits *millions* of netbooks.
[07:15] <Zeu5> hi i have an issue with my xampp. i keep getting this another mysql daemon is running whenever i restart my computer. i ran ps aux |grep mysql i get the following http://paste.ubuntu.com/446473/  this process pid 897 keeps starting up. how do i make sure it doesnt starts all the time? is it because i chose automatically start programs in my startupservice?
[07:15] <Kamilion> We have no market and barely any marketing.
[07:16] <jmichaelx> good grief, one more time... is there anyone else that is having issues reaching security.ubuntu.com when try to do updates?
[07:16] <Prez00> hello
[07:16] <Zeu5> please help. i have asked many times today. i have not received any responses.
[07:16] <Prez00> how could I watch mms feed with .asx file?  I can't seem to play them in Ubuntu
[07:16] <bazhang> Zeu5, xamp is not supported, see lamp
[07:16] <bazhang> !lamp | Zeu5
[07:16] <Docteh> i dont even know what xamp is :)
[07:16] <Docteh> !xamp
[07:17] <jmichaelx> Zeu5: #ubuntu has always been a zoo, more or less
[07:17] <Zeu5> hi bazhang, its called lampp in my /opt/lampp
[07:17] <ubutom_> Docteh, mp3 player like winamp
[07:17] <UbuntuBoy> Well thanks, I'm going to keep trying to get iTunes for Linux.
[07:17] <bazhang> Zeu5, install from the repos, no need to be in /opt
[07:17] <Kamilion> Zeu5: yes, you can disable the mysqld from system startup with update-rc.d IIRC
[07:17] <hotfloppy> how to resize all of my desktop icon size ? other than the stretch option..
[07:18] <Kamilion> jmichaelx: I'm not having any issues with security.ubuntu.com.
[07:18] <Zeu5> Kamilion: where is system startup?
[07:18] <Docteh> ubutom_: i thought thats xmms
[07:18] <Kamilion> Zeu5: /etc/init.d or /etc/init
[07:18] <ubutom_> lol, yeah, Docteh , just seen it, omg
[07:18] <jmichaelx> Kamilion: ty, i appreciate the response. for some reason it isn't working for me.
[07:19] <Kamilion> jmichaelx: got anywhere you can SSH to and test from a remote location?
[07:19] <haardz> Hello all! How can I fix this error message: "no such file or directory"
[07:19] <Zeu5> Kamilion: there is no mysqld inside my /etc/inti.d
[07:19] <indus> haardz, make a adirectory there then :D
[07:19] <haardz> indus, let me try it
[07:19] <indus> haardz, you are trying to search for something which is not there
[07:19] <hotfloppy> lol
[07:19] <ubutom_> xampp is a web server , worked quite well for a little site i made a while ago
[07:19] <jmichaelx> Kamilion: yes, i could. i guess that would have been a quicker means to troubleshooting this
[07:19] <hotfloppy> !icon
[07:20] <haardz> indus, actually is there
[07:20] <Kamilion> Zeu5: perhaps you should try sysv-rc-conf then?
[07:20] <indus> haardz, ok
[07:20] <Zeu5> Kamilion: tks i go try
[07:20] <Eugene89> sorry for asking again, but I've tried using mysql administrator to schedule weekly backups for my sql databases, but it's not working. How should I schedule weekly backups for my sql databases in that case?
[07:20] <hotfloppy> indus: how to resize all of my desktop icon size ? other than the stretch option..
[07:21] <haardz> indus, dont work :/
[07:21] <hotfloppy> indus: how to resize all of my desktop icon size ? other than the stretch option..
[07:22] <indus> hotfloppy, use smaller icons
[07:22] <indus> hotfloppy, smaller icon set i mean
[07:23] <indus> hotfloppy, but iam not much into customization, you can read some online guides
[07:23] <Kartagis> Eugene89, set up a crontab to run mysqldump
[07:23] <indus> hotfloppy, but unless someone creates a diff size icon, you wont get it
[07:23] <Kamilion> *sigh* I came into the channel asking for help; in vbox 3.2.4 my lucid 64 server was going bonkers during the install, checked my md5sums, did the iso verify, etc etc etc... ten times this afternoon it broke. Another four times tonight. Now -- same iso, same vbox, same settings, no changes, I just got a successful install. ARRRRRRGH!
[07:24] <jmichaelx> Kamilion: i ssh'd into a server at work, and security.ubuntu.com repo is not reachable from there, either
[07:24] <Docteh> Kamilion: what kind of bonkers
[07:24] <Eugene89> Kartagis, would that allow my backup to run without logging in?
[07:24] <Kartagis> Eugene89, yes
[07:24] <indus> jmichaelx, must be down then
[07:24] <Kamilion> jmichaelx: I get directed to auckland.canonical.com; and WFM
[07:25] <Kamilion> sec, SSHing to work...
[07:25] <Kane_Hart> anyone able to link me to like dns/lamp setup.. I got lamp working and ftp working and my site working my next thing I want to do is add just 1 domain with working dns so like mysite.com to my ip but not sure how. Anyone able to help me.. I get 2 ip's too
[07:25] <indus> jmichaelx, ok i ping it, i have packet loss
[07:25] <hotfloppy> indus: thanks. i think i should post this issue on Ubuntu brainstorm..
[07:25] <Eugene89> Kartagis, Thanks. I will read up more on crontab
[07:25] <indus> hotfloppy, brainstorm? i dont think this wil be approvied
[07:25] <jmichaelx> ok, interesting. ty for the feedback.
[07:25] <Docteh> Kane_Hart: if your ip is not static you'll want to have dns hosted somewhere else
[07:26] <banker247> how do you source a file?
[07:26] <Kamilion> ... Okay, I'm seeing packetloss from work. (That's NASA Ames, directly on the MAE WEST interchange.) Something is indeed amiss, jmichaelx.
[07:26] <wildbat_laptop> is there a macro/scripting tools for ubuntu like Autoit in windows, that do mouse simulation or Window message?
[07:26] <Kane_Hart> Docteh this a dedicated server
[07:26] <Kane_Hart> and its static
[07:26] <jmichaelx> hmm
[07:26] <Kane_Hart> I got like 5 ips lol
[07:26] <Docteh> ok
[07:27] <Kamilion> Kane_Hart: I've got a nice lucid nginx howto for php+rails with passenger...
[07:27] <Kartagis> Eugene89, no problem. the command you need to run is mysqldump -uuser -ppass [database] > db.sql
[07:27] <garden_> hello
[07:27] <Kane_Hart> tbh don't know one word you just said besides php :P
[07:27] <Kane_Hart> I just have lamp/ftp all working just want domain working :P
[07:28] <hotfloppy> indus: really? i think if they implementing the option to easily change the desktop icon size would be nice.. anyways, thanks..
[07:28] <garden_> may I ask you a queston??????
[07:28] <Docteh> Kane_Hart: unless you're using somethinh fancy to manage virtualhosts, any old uh hmm, bind/named tut should work
[07:28] <Eugene89> Kartagis, What about to store it in a certain directory? Or would you kindly direct me somewhere which would have all the information? Sorry for troubling you
[07:28] <Kamilion> Kane_Hart: If you're not hosting your own DNS and neither is your webhost; you might try freedns.afraid.org
[07:29] <Kartagis> Eugene89, mysqldump -uuser -ppass [database] > /path/to/db.sql
[07:29] <Kane_Hart> would
[07:29] <Kane_Hart> namecheap have it
[07:29] <Kane_Hart> ok if I run dns elsewhere like namecheap
[07:29] <Kamilion> Yes, but it depends if you've set it up to use it.
[07:29] <Kane_Hart> how do I make it so when points to server ip
[07:29] <Docteh> Kane_Hart: step one is to log in to where you set your nameserver for the domain and try to assign it one of your ip addresses, that might require getting some guy (the techs) to do it
[07:29] <Kane_Hart> that the server accepts it to show that domain as the site
[07:29] <flodin> hey guys, ftp.df.lth.se is down "for a few days" (according to the 503 response) in case you didn't know
[07:30] <boko> somebody help?
[07:30] <flodin> might want to take it off the ubuntu mirror rotation
[07:30] <Kamilion> Set an A record pointing from the name you want to the IP you're at.
[07:30] <Kamilion> oh.
[07:30] <trijntje> Is there a program for ubuntu that shows running programs sorted to their network usage?
[07:30] <indus> hotfloppy, well, if you mean , the one click will switch between icons of difff sizes, then its easy but if you want something that auto creates a smaller icon instead of stretch, then quite tough
[07:30] <boko> * Connecting to irc.mvr.gamezlan.net (6667)
[07:30] <boko> Unable to connect to server (Connection timed out)
[07:30] <boko> ircd-hybrid
[07:30] <Kamilion> Okay, you need to tell apache which vhost to use or use *:80
[07:31] <Docteh> trijntje: I keep forgetting the name of the cool app that deals with that :(
[07:31] <Docteh> try iptraf maybe
[07:31] <Kamilion> So, you need someone who knows apache2 vhost stuff. Sorry; I use nginx.
[07:31] <Docteh> Kamilion: sounds like he just need a bind howto
[07:31] <hotfloppy> indus: yes, i want those one click option :) so, will it get approve ?
[07:32] <Kamilion> Docteh: Nope, I've interpreted he has the A record, and lacks the apache vhost
[07:32] <Docteh> ohhh
[07:32] <indus> hotfloppy, how do i know :D
[07:32] <trijntje> Docteh, ill try iptraf, give a call when the cool app comes to mind ;)
[07:32] <indus> hotfloppy, i dont own canonical :)
[07:32] <hotfloppy> indus: lol
[07:32] <Kamilion> " how do I make it so when points to server ip that the server accepts it to show that domain as the site" -- sounds like 'how do I set up apache2 vhosts" to me
[07:32] <greezmunkey> trijntje: Docteh iptraf will do that...
[07:32] <Docteh> oh i missed that
[07:33] <Kamilion> he posted it on two lines ;)
[07:33] <Docteh> oops
[07:33] <Docteh> i somehow blame my vga terminal for that
[07:33] <indus> hotfloppy, good lucken
[07:33]  * Docteh steals a 20
[07:33] <Kamilion> for me with nginx; I do: listen 80; server_name www.sllabs.com;
[07:33] <boko> any of you guys suguest
[07:33] <carlitos__> hi all
[07:34] <banker247> how do you source a file/
[07:34] <boko> what do i do
[07:34] <hotfloppy> indus: thanks buddy
[07:34] <Docteh> rails guy?
[07:34] <trijntje> greezmunkey, looking through the docs now, do you have any pointers on how to make iptraf do that?
[07:34] <Kamilion> banker: in the terminal? "source whatever.sh"
[07:34] <carlitos__> any help ?  after I update to ubuntu 10.04 I got this  mesagge  mounting none  on /dev failed
[07:35] <indus> hotfloppy, why dont you create a smaller icon set yourself
[07:35] <greezmunkey> trijntje: you want it to track ip usabe by program/process? It does that out of the box.
[07:35] <indus> hotfloppy, using some tool like inkscape,
[07:35] <Docteh> fire it up and pick an interface
[07:35] <indus> hotfloppy, but i think you can resize the icons using any graphic tool really, like gimp
[07:36] <greezmunkey> iptraf
[07:36] <greezmunkey> bah
[07:36] <wise_crypt> hi.. how can i remove network manager from my DE without removing my DE i try sudo apt-get remove network-manager --purge but it said my DE will be romoved
[07:36] <Docteh> carlitos__: is this vague error attached to something else? like not booting? the cdrom drive is trying to strangle you? ;)
[07:36] <R3cur51v3> wise_crypt, why do you want to remove it?
[07:36] <Docteh> wise_crypt: fiddle with update-rc.d and disable it
[07:37] <zfmf> hello, i try to install ubuntu 10.04 server editon , on step 4 prepare disk spaace i get nothing, what can be the problem here?
[07:37] <trijntje> greezmunkey, Docteh, just found nethogs, does the exact thing I needed. Thanks for your help
[07:37] <wise_crypt> Docteh: i have disabled it but it keeps showing
[07:37] <R3cur51v3> wise_crypt, I'm pretty sure you can easily remove the notification area icon if you want to
[07:37] <hetii> Hello
[07:37] <mechdave> wise_crypt, do you want to just get rid of the applet or the whole manager?
[07:37] <greezmunkey> trijntje: yeah, nethogs gives you overall stats, it's nice too.
[07:37] <wise_crypt> R3cur51v3: i know i just want to do it manually without involving nm at all
[07:38] <Kartagis> I have this problem with facebook videos. I can never watch them in full length. what to do?
[07:38] <carlitos__> I  can not access
[07:38] <carlitos__> :S
[07:38] <hetii> Q: I try to use webdav functionality from site webdav.mydrive.ch but i can download just the file not a hole direcotry with a files, what can be wrong ?
[07:38] <wise_crypt> *it = my interface setting
[07:38] <Docteh> wise_crypt: the NetworkManagerDispatcher maybe wont come home from work tonight? ;)
[07:39] <wise_crypt> Docteh: hihihi
[07:39] <hotfloppy> indus: actually, i want the option to resize the icon like in Kubuntu
[07:39] <Kamilion> Ooooh nethogs is just what i needed to sit next to htop!
[07:39] <hotfloppy> indus: or maybe in Windoze
[07:39] <wise_crypt> nm is buggy in every distro i have tried
[07:40] <Docteh> its worked well enough for me, on servers i move it to /root since i'm lazy
[07:40] <mechdave> works fine for me
[07:40] <wise_crypt> damn RHEL
[07:40] <Docteh> but it works great on my laptop
[07:40] <mechdave> just sits there and does its thing, much harder to configure network without it :)
[07:41] <wise_crypt> ya if your device is supported by the current kernel :P
[07:41] <Docteh> not much harder
[07:41] <fpauser__> hi there! just tried to disable desktop-effects, in theory it looks good (checked "no desktop effects") but in reality the shadow-effect does not go away and the gnome task-switcher (alt-tab) does not come up... any hints how to reset gnome-settings in terms of "compiz" and "taskswitcher"?
[07:41] <Kamilion> I never seem to have any problems with network manager, from simple ethernet-only, most laptops we've bought with decent linux-supported wifi adapters and plenty of 3G devices.
[07:42] <indus> hotfloppy, how is that option
[07:42] <indus> hotfloppy, what can be done in k ubuntu
[07:43] <Kamilion> of course, since I do my research before I buy hardware, I expect it to work :P  But hey -- have you considered swapping out your notebook's minipci wifi card with something that's supported?
[07:43] <Docteh> lucky
[07:43] <Docteh> most of my recent hardware has been cheapo stuff
[07:43] <wise_crypt> Docteh: lol
[07:44] <Kamilion> The sad thing is; I've had better luck with linux supporting the cheaper stuff ;)
[07:44] <Docteh> I've got a Q6600 with 1 gig of ram right now
[07:44] <profxavier> 1GB, why ?
[07:44] <wise_crypt> guys my question still stands
[07:45] <mechdave> Kamilion, too true, the more common the chipset the better for Linux :)
[07:45] <Docteh> wise_crypt: just bump off /usr/sbin/NetworkManagerDispatcher
[07:45] <Kamilion> wise_crypt: Hold on, lemme go find the gconf knob that hides the icon.
[07:45] <Docteh> wise_crypt: or is it still showing without network manager actualyl running?
[07:45] <hotfloppy> indus: in Kubuntu, you can resize all desktop icon size into smaller size with just one option / dialog box..
[07:46] <Docteh> it used to only show up if there was something to helpfull mismanager
[07:46] <Kamilion> oh, hey, I sort of realized... You could just install wicd -- that conflicts with network-manager
[07:46] <wise_crypt> Kamilion: i can remove the icon if i want to, it removing nm i asked
[07:46] <indus> hotfloppy, i think in ubuntu gconf editor might have a solution
[07:46] <Kamilion> should be an easier task removing wicd than NM.
[07:47] <wise_crypt> bumb
[07:47] <Docteh> how have you tried disabling it?
[07:48] <greezmunkey> wise_crypt: I think you can do that, but it may raise hedoublehockeysticks with future updates.
[07:48] <Docteh> if theres a networkmanager.conf in /etc/init rename that to blah.disabled?
[07:48] <wise_crypt> greezmunkey: hmm
[07:48] <thune3> fpauser__: System->Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts "Move between windows, using a popup window" <---- check that
[07:49] <hotfloppy> indus: checking the gconf-editor..
[07:49] <hotfloppy> indus: i'll be back here later..
[07:49] <indus> kk
[07:50] <tasslehoff> Any repo that can give me emacs >= 23.2?
[07:50] <banker247> how do you unload acpi-cpufreq
[07:50] <indus> hotfloppy, someeone has a brainstrom idea
[07:50] <indus> hotfloppy, googled it
[07:51] <Docteh> banker247: why do you want to remove it?
[07:51] <greezmunkey> wise_crypt: sudo apt-get remove network-manager, according to quite a few posts. I suppose you can always reinstall if needed, later.
[07:51] <banker247> trying to undervolt
[07:51] <Docteh> could try blacklisting it to prevent it from loading if you cant rmmod it
[07:51] <Kamilion> banker247: 'rmmod acpi-cpufreq'
[07:51] <nsh> is it possible for a non-root user to mount a remote NFS share?
[07:51]  * Sauron  buenos dias
[07:51] <nsh> without suid mount
[07:51] <hotfloppy> indus: i already search the brainstorm with "icon size" as a keyword, but has no luck..
[07:52] <Docteh> nsh: only if you specify user flag in fstab
[07:52] <nsh> hmm
[07:52] <wise_crypt> greezmunkey: sudo apt-get remove network-manager --purge without purging ?
[07:52] <Docteh> nsh: you could write your own setuid mount app that only takes the args you want
[07:52] <indus> hotfloppy, http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/item/12035/
[07:52] <nsh> Docteh, fstab on the sharing machine?
[07:52] <Docteh> i think mount() is a kernel call
[07:52] <Docteh> nsh: fstab on the computer mounting
[07:54] <zetheroo> why do RTF files always ask how you want them to be opened ... even when the app has been set in Open With in properties ... ?
[07:54] <nsh> i can't see what the kernel can request from the remote machine over the network that a regular user couldn't, theoretically
[07:54] <nsh> i should read up the protocol i guses
[07:55] <Kamilion> nsh: here's my nfs client line: 10.10.10.250:/mnt/DumpSpace /media/bbdump nfs rw,soft,user,noauto 0 0
[07:55] <Docteh> nsh: i must have interpreted that question wrong
[07:55] <zetheroo> seems to me that RTF files are thought to be executable ... should not be ... is there a way to change this system-wide?
[07:55] <Docteh> nsh: ports below 1024 require system user to open on linux/unix/etc, that might be part of it
[07:56] <nsh> oh, NFS checks the originating port, perhaps
[07:56] <nsh> for the RPC call
[07:56] <indus> hotfloppy, ok found something
[07:56] <indus> hotfloppy,
[07:56] <indus> - Open up Nautilus.
[07:56] <indus> - Select the edit menu
[07:56] <indus> - Select the Perferences item
[07:56] <indus> - Choose the view catagory
[07:56] <FloodBot4> indus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:56] <indus> - Under Icon View Defaults modify the Default Zoom Level
[07:56] <nsh> or requires the mounter to have an open port below 1024 to receive data on
[07:56] <nsh> that would make sense
[07:56] <hotfloppy> indus: where is the other solution? :( by reading the comment, everyone suggesting the Nautilus preferences..
[07:56] <hotfloppy> ops..
[07:57] <hotfloppy> indus: i'm a slow typist..
[07:57] <Docteh> nsh: it also might just not care, nfs is known to be difficult to secure
[07:57] <indus> hotfloppy, yea gconf editor > apps > nautilus > icon view thumbnail size
[07:57]  * nsh nods
[07:57] <Kamilion> nsh: I've got nautilus mount/umountable NFS drives on my karmic and lucid workstations right now with the above fstab line.
[07:57] <nsh> Kamilion, right
[07:57] <Docteh> nfsv4 has some kerberos stuff but i dont know anything about kerberos
[07:57] <hotfloppy> indus: i already get the nautilus preferences, but i want to change only the desktop icon size..
[07:57]  * nsh reads up
[07:58] <indus> hotfloppy, only desktop, hmm
[07:58] <hotfloppy> indus: thats why i said "like the one in Kubuntu"
[07:58] <hotfloppy> indus: in Kubuntu, they change only desktop icon size..
[07:58] <indus> hotfloppy, oh ok
[07:59] <indus> hotfloppy, i guess only solution is manually cchange it
[07:59] <hotfloppy> indus: but i love gnome :-(
[07:59] <Docteh> if i could find a filesystem where different computers share the block device but dont thwomp on each others files as a curticy I'd be really happy
[07:59] <Kamilion> nsh: 10.10.10.250:/mnt/DumpSpace /media/bbdump nfs rw,soft,user,noauto 0 0      --- just make sure it's a directory in /media if you want nautilus to manage it. noauto means it isn't mounted at boot, and karmic and lucid use policykit or it's ilk to trigger the mount via gvfs without a suid mount IIRC.
[07:59] <hotfloppy> indus: yeap, i thought so..
[07:59] <nsh> Kamilion, thanks, but i'm just pondering the matter without any particular application
[07:59] <hotfloppy> indus: thats why people on brainstorm should implement this idea
[08:00] <Kamilion> nsh: from the commandline, you can use gvfs-mount to use the same framework.
[08:00] <kb-allstar> #ubuntu10.04
[08:00] <indus> hotfloppy, well its cosmetic so who knows when they will approve it
[08:00] <kb-allstar> ooops sry guys
[08:00] <Docteh> nsh: read up on iscsi if you have a chance
[08:00] <nsh> will do
[08:01] <Kamilion> nsh: try gvfs-mount --list to see what it reports it can deal with.
[08:01] <zetheroo> chmod -Rv a-x *.rtf   How do I get this to work on all subdirectories and not just within the one main directory?
[08:01] <hotfloppy> indus: hope they will approve it.. for now, got to do it the hard way..
[08:01] <nsh> noted with thanks
[08:01] <hotfloppy> indus: anyways, thanks for your help :)
[08:01] <indus> ya sure hope so
[08:01] <Docteh> zetheroo: that R isn't doing it?
[08:02] <Kamilion> nsh: and I just verified I can mount and unmount via a SSH login even without being logged into gnome on the console.
[08:02] <zetheroo> Docteh: no
[08:02] <Docteh> odd
[08:02] <Docteh> lowercase?
[08:02] <nsh> Kamilion, that's nice
[08:02] <indus> hotfloppy, have  a nice day :)
[08:02] <hotfloppy> indus: yeah, you too :)
[08:03] <zetheroo> Docteh: I just did that command from within my Documents folder and it only took care of the RTF's within that folder and not in the subdir's
[08:03] <Docteh> zetheroo: you might have to fiddle with find and xargs but i just suck at using it
[08:03] <Kamilion> nsh: so it seems to only rely on the proper libraries and infrastructure to be there -- not a whole running GUI session.
[08:03]  * nsh nods
[08:04] <Kamilion> I get good speeds too -- 60-70MB/sec over GigE between two amd 780G boards,
[08:04] <kb-allstar> hi guys, i have a question for you, I use scribus as a replacement for publisher, but now i want to open it somewhere else, but i can't because it is saved as a .sla file.  I checked google but i didn't see anything that would change the filetype.  any suggestions?
[08:04] <eraggo> anyone else noticed that i need root priviledges to connect bluetooth device via rfcomm?
[08:04] <zetheroo> in lowercase it gives: chmod: invalid mode: `-rv'
[08:05] <Kamilion> kb-allstar: download scribus 'somewhere else' to open the file.
[08:05] <Kamilion> There is a working windows version too.
[08:05] <Docteh> zetheroo: find -name "*.rtf" | xargs chmod a-x
[08:05] <kb-allstar> im using photobucket online
[08:05] <Kamilion> You'll have to open it in scribus and export it as an image file then.
[08:05] <kb-allstar> and it wont allow me to use .sla filetypes
[08:05] <Docteh> zetheroo: that may or may not be right btw ;)
[08:06] <zetheroo> Doctech: got a heap of "cannot access" messages
[08:06] <Docteh> heh where did you run it from?
[08:06] <bonez2046> why does this command 'tar zcvf .foo/* ~/archive/bar' end up, after several minutes, with this error "tar: Removing leading `/' from member names" and this "/home/scott/archive/" and this finally "tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors" with the result that nothing gets tarred?
[08:07] <zetheroo> chmod: cannot access `Reply.rtf': No such file or directory
[08:07] <disappearedng> Hey everyone when I start ubuntu it says it cannot find some key which requires ecrypt-mount-private. In /home/<mynick> I am seeing HOW YO ACESS YOUR DESKTOP and a README file. What is going on?
[08:07] <Kamilion> bonez2046: I don't see a tarfile specified in that.
[08:07] <zetheroo> Docteh: running it from withink the Documents folder
[08:07] <Docteh> zetheroo: oh is there spaces in some of the filenames?
[08:08] <zetheroo> Reply.rtf .... no spaces there
[08:08] <Colloguy> is it possible to set a specific environment variable for all sudo-ed commands?
[08:08] <Kamilion> bonez2046: You sure you don't mean tar zcvf /home/scott/tarfile.tar .foo/* ~/archive/bar
[08:08] <sealive> hi i got a Quest: if the kernel changes now on lucid32bit its image 22 is the downloadebal CD image file then upgreadet to ?
[08:08] <bonez2046> Kamilion: ok, here's the whole command "tar zcvf .VirtualBox/* ~/archive" I am wanting to backup ~/.VirtualBox and it's contents and subfolders, and save it to ~/archive/
[08:08] <nsh> Docteh, the NFS Howto explains thus: The TCP ports 1-1024 are reserved for root's use (and therefore sometimes referred to as "secure ports") A non-root user cannot bind these ports. Adding the secure option to an /etc/exports means that it will only listed to requests coming from ports 1-1024 on the client, so that a malicious non-root user on the client cannot come along and open up a spoofed NFS dialogue on a non-reserved port. This option is set by default.
[08:08] <Docteh> zetheroo: check for something like "Swordy Reply.rtf"
[08:08] <MauL^> hi. when I plug a usb harddisk, ubuntu does not recognize it automatically. how can I force it ?
[08:09] <Kamilion> bonez2046: Easy enough: tar -cjvf ~/vbox.tar.bz2 ~/.Virtualbox
[08:09] <zetheroo> chmod: cannot access `faith_may27.rtf': No such file or directory
[08:09] <Kamilion> er wait
[08:09] <zetheroo> chmod: cannot access `works_may30.rtf': No such file or directory
[08:09] <disappearedng> ok quick question, when I start ubuntu, it didn't mount my system because of some ecrypt thing, then I chmod 755 my /home/ directory, and now when I logs in it appears that my entire /home is gone, is there anything I could do?
[08:10] <Kamilion> bonez2046: tar -cpvf ~/archive/vbox.tar ~/.Virtualbox
[08:10] <Docteh> zetheroo: yea that command just doesn't work with spaces in file names
[08:10] <Kamilion> Better to compress it after the fact with 'pbzip2 -9 ~/archive/vbox.tar'
[08:10] <zetheroo> Doctech: where are the spaces? Those are underscores ...
[08:10] <zetheroo> Docteh: btw ... whats the xargs for?
[08:11] <Kamilion> or 'pigz -9 ~/archive/vbox.tar'
[08:11] <bonez2046> Kamilion: I had the source and destination backwards, didn't I.. and I didn't name the archive..
[08:11] <Docteh> zetheroo: run just the find command and then look at that for filenames with spaces
[08:12] <Kamilion> bonez2046: Think about it this way: you can only specify one tarfile, so it goes first. Then you specify *as many file/dirs* as you need after.
[08:12] <zetheroo> Docteh: someone from #linux just said to do this ... wdyt?     find -name \*.rtf -type f -exec chmod a-x {} +
[08:12] <bonez2046> ok.. thanks a bunch
[08:12] <Kamilion> zetheroo: don't do that.
[08:12] <Docteh> hmmm looks good to me
[08:12] <darkangel> whats the command in the terminal to show what hardware we have in the computer, specifically the wireless card
[08:12] <Kamilion> zetheroo: that will strip execute permissions from ...
[08:12] <Kamilion> RTF file?
[08:13] <Kamilion> Okay, nevermind, misread that!
[08:13] <MauL^> hi. when I plug a usb harddisk, ubuntu does not recognize it automatically. how can I force it ?
[08:13] <zetheroo> Kamilion: yes ? No?
[08:13] <Docteh> Kamilion: Manual.rtf  yea i love that in a file name ;)
[08:13] <zetheroo> :)
[08:13] <Kamilion> zetheroo: fine!
[08:13] <eraggo> darkangel: lspci?
[08:13]  * Kamilion grumbles and increases his font size
[08:13] <darkangel> awesome thankyou eraggo
[08:15] <zetheroo> Kamilion: does it matter where I do that command from?
[08:16] <Kamilion> zetheroo: yeah, it will only search below where you are; if you do it from /home/username/ it will only search /home/username/*
[08:16] <milton_> Hello..
[08:16]  * Docteh steals your stapler
[08:16] <zetheroo> Kamilion: will it search also within the subdirs?
[08:17] <Kamilion> imgonnaburnthisplacedown.
[08:17] <Kamilion> zetheroo: Not sure, don't really know find syntax too well.
[08:17] <Docteh> zetheroo: thats why you're using find
[08:17] <Kamilion> I don't see a maxdepth in there though, so I think it should.
[08:17] <milton_> Hello.  Guys could some body help me.. am having a little problem installing some programs in ubuntu
[08:18] <Docteh> Kamilion: why burn this place down
[08:18] <kb-allstar> what does EOF stand for in regards to python programming?
[08:18] <Docteh> milton_: what programs
[08:18] <Docteh> kb-allstar: end of file
[08:18] <Kamilion> Docteh: you stole someone's stapler. Office space.
[08:18] <kb-allstar> thanks Docteh
[08:18] <zetheroo> oh cool ... looks like it worked :)
[08:18] <Docteh> Kamilion: lol since milton_ didn't get it i totally forgot
[08:19] <Kamilion> Ah well.
[08:19] <milton_> hey people can some body help
[08:19] <vega> !ask | milton_
[08:20] <Kamilion> milton_: We will need something a little less vauge than 'problem installing software'.
[08:20] <milton_> Thanks man.. Yes I've installed the  a pacman game in ubuntu but it doesn't show up in the games tab
[08:21] <Kamilion> Try logging out and logging in once and seeing if it shows up.
[08:21] <mojodojo87> Hello, I figured out why my ATI 4650 was flickering alot, it was due to it being pluged into CRT2 instead of CRT1 port, idk why this made a difference didn't on windows but thought I would let someone know in case someone else has a simular problem.
[08:21] <damoxc> does anyone know if there is something wrong with security.ubuntu.com?
[08:22] <Kamilion> damoxc: yes, several of us have noticed it's losing packets.
[08:22] <damoxc> Kamilion: not just me then :)
[08:22] <eraggo> Kamilion: not only us :)
[08:22] <Kamilion> damoxc: Not everyone is having issues; I'm fine from home but work's busted.
[08:22] <milton_> Ok I'll try it now I'll come back if it fail..
[08:22] <zetheroo> I get a message in the Ubuntu forums saying: You are browsing a READ only archive of the main support categories pre  4/21/2008. You will not be able to post or reply any threads in this  section.    .... Why?
[08:23] <damoxc> Kamilion: i'm experiencing the issue from work and in our dc at a seperate location
[08:23] <Kamilion> eraggo: You have more useful information?
[08:23] <eraggo> not useful :/ i misread us as US
[08:23] <Kamilion> That is still a useful distinction. I am in california, my work is directly connected to the MAE WEST fiber drop.
[08:24] <Kamilion> I'm on comcast and seeing no issue here.
[08:25] <sjr_> Hey my sound isnt working with ubuntu 10.04, stops after a while. Pulseaudio wont start says module-hal-detect not found.
[08:25] <Kamilion> milton: any luck?
[08:26] <milton> Wooooooooo  You Guys ROCKSSSS
[08:26] <milton> I have one more Question..
[08:26] <Kamilion> Shoot.
[08:26] <User01> can i install Linux with the default drivers so it would not conflict when putting the HD on another pc
[08:27] <sjr_> Hey my sound isnt working with ubuntu 10.04, stops after a while. Pulseaudio wont start says module-hal-detect not found.
[08:27] <Kamilion> User01: That is the default configuration of all ubuntu installations.
[08:27] <sjr_> Whoops sorry
[08:27] <milton> I have downloded some tutorials but I cant find them..
[08:27] <zetheroo> User01: you want to swap a HDD between to systems running different OS's?
[08:27] <User01> kamilion and how could I go about doing that
[08:27] <Kamilion> milton: have you checked your Downloads directory in your homedir?
[08:27] <milton> where does ubuntu saves those files I installed using the synaptic thing..
[08:27] <Docteh> User01: step one, drag it over to other computer ;)
[08:28] <zetheroo> haha
[08:28] <jamezek> hey my ubuntu 10.04 wireless internet doesn't work- i have to manually select it upon startup
[08:28] <Kamilion> User01: ubuntu is not like microsoft who locks a license to hardware -- just install ubuntu to the hard drive and bring it to the other computer.
[08:28] <User01> zetheroo: I want to install the os on a computer that won't do it itself via cd
[08:28] <Docteh> User01: so steal its hd and install onto that
[08:28] <User01> kamilion really??
[08:28] <Kamilion> User01: REALLY.
[08:28] <milton> Let me Check..
[08:28] <Kamilion> It's just that easy.
[08:28] <jamezek> how do i make my wireless internet automatically connect
[08:29] <User01> so it just works?!
[08:29] <Kamilion> yep.
[08:29] <zetheroo> User01: you can install Ubuntu to a HDD and then take it and plug it into another machine and boot off of it there ... done that before :)
[08:29] <Kamilion> Crazy, huh?
[08:29] <User01> without blue screens lol
[08:29] <Kamilion> yep!
[08:29] <User01> wow thanks ppl
[08:29] <User01> seriouslu
[08:29] <Kamilion> No hassle, as long as the bios finds the drive. Enjoy!
[08:29] <zetheroo> jamezek: caress it :P
[08:29] <Kamilion> Drop by again if you need some help setting up a boot menu.
[08:29] <User01> wow thanks I'm happyaron now
[08:29] <User01> happy ;)
[08:30] <Kamilion> so you can choose which drive to start from
[08:30] <Yosi> any easy way to determine which drive ubuntu installed grub onto..  i think it put in on my windows sata drive!!
[08:30] <zetheroo> User01: have fun ;)
[08:30] <User01> I just cant get it to boot from a cd it shuts down
[08:30] <jamezek> how come my firefox always hangs on 10.04
[08:30] <User01> my computer is saved wooot
[08:30] <Kamilion> Yosi: think you can check system.map for that.
[08:30] <jamezek> i tried doing the ipv6 thing but it doesn't help
[08:31] <Kamilion> User01: And try xubuntu if you find the normal one to be too heavy for older PCs.
[08:31] <User01> I still cant  believe ut
[08:31] <zetheroo> User01: does the system shut off when you try to boot from CD?
[08:31] <User01> yes
[08:31] <Yosi> what is system.map?
[08:31] <Kamilion> jamezek: You have a problem with your router/dslmodem/cablemodem's DNS resolver.
[08:31] <Docteh> Kamilion: i heard xfce wasn't all that cut down
[08:31] <Kamilion> Yosi: check /boot/system.map I think
[08:31] <User01> every time gpu overheats buy it runs fine inside linux
[08:31] <zetheroo> User01: and when the system is running ... can you use the optical drive just fine?
[08:31] <Yosi> thanks
[08:32] <User01> yes it's a pata drive
[08:32] <jamezek> kamilion: is there a way to fix it
[08:32] <milton> Nothing Kamilton..  I  reinstalled the tutorials and even get in the Homedir Downloads  but nothing..
[08:32] <User01> the pc recognizes it
[08:32] <jamezek> cos it worked fine with 9.10 before
[08:32] <Kamilion> Docteh: it ain't, but it'll run okay on 256MB or below a lot better than gnome.
[08:32] <User01> pata being the pins on my 2.5" lapop hdd
[08:32] <zetheroo> User01: I had a similar issue with my system ... my PSU was kicking it
[08:32] <User01> ahh
[08:32] <Yosi> kamilion: no such file exists
[08:33] <Kamilion> jamezek: Probably. Get a new firmware for your router or ask your ISP to upgrade your modem.
[08:33] <zetheroo> User01: oh thsi is a laptop?
[08:33] <User01> zetheroo so you just plug and play?
[08:33] <jamezek> ok
[08:33] <nuboon2age> i just put in not one but two differnet 2GB USB pen drives, and neither of them automount in Lucid.  Any ideas what to do?
[08:33] <Kamilion> jamezek: the problem usually occurs in older network gear that improperly DROPS valid DNS queries.
[08:33] <zetheroo> User01: plug and play what?
[08:33] <llutz> Yosi: /boot/system.map-$(uname -r)        is the kernel symbol table
[08:33] <jamezek> right
[08:33] <User01> yes it's an hp dv 8000 17" nice lappy
[08:34] <milton> Hey Kamilton  I was thinking that this might have to do with something in the CONSOLE prompt thing.. What you think
[08:34] <User01> zetheroo: the freshly installed linux os from my other pc to my broken laptop
[08:34] <jamezek> is there another way to do it without replacing my modem like with some tweaking
[08:34] <zetheroo> User01: ahh I see ... and the system turns off when you try to boot from a CD ... and yet when the system is running you can use the CDrom just fine
[08:34] <Kamilion> jamezek: The other option is to rely on your local computer to do the lookups and skip your ISP entirely, by setting your DNS at 8.8.8.8 / 8.8.4.4 for google's public DNS or using pdns-recursor
[08:35] <User01> zetgeroo yes
[08:35] <Kamilion> jamezek: apt-get install pdns-recursor, set nameserver to 127.0.0.1
[08:35] <jamezek> let me try
[08:35] <User01> everything works fine except for when trying to install os
[08:35] <zetheroo> User01: no warranty on the laptop I am guessing?
[08:35] <User01> bope
[08:35] <User01> nope
[08:35] <dubey> hello
[08:35] <dubey> i am using ubuntu 10.04 and want to download driver for hp M1213nf MSP printer
[08:35] <Kamilion> jamezek: Personally, I just use google's DNS at 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
[08:35] <milton> Hey Kamilion , could I solve this thing using the console utility program
[08:35] <Bodman456> hi guys
[08:35] <Yosi> llutz: I get an no such file or directory error
[08:35] <zetheroo> User01: sucks ... HP laptops for you ... disposables ...
[08:36] <User01> it's close to dead zetherroo I mean realslix close
[08:36] <Kamilion> milton: try the File Search. Otherwise, you might have asked firefox to open the file, which would have stored it in /tmp and deleted it after a reboot.
[08:36] <dubey> what is the url to download linux printer drivers
[08:36] <zetheroo> User01: how do you know it overheats ... ? ... I mean besides the fact that's it's a HP ...
[08:37] <User01> real close* but does what you said still apply can I still boot linux without having o install it on the exact same pc
[08:37] <User01> linux- told me zetheroo
[08:37] <milton> Ok I'll try that
[08:37] <Kamilion> zetheroo: windows nvidia drivers complain about overheating; I've seen it.
[08:37] <User01> 94c limit reached shutting down
[08:37] <zetheroo> User01: so you have linux on it?
[08:37] <User01> had
[08:37] <Kamilion> User01: Get a can of compressed air and get all the crud out of it's fans.
[08:37] <User01> did
[08:38] <sjr_> pulseaudio wont start, ideas?
[08:38] <zetheroo> Kamilion: yeah ... tell me about it ... I have had dozens of them through my workshop ... overheating HP's that is
[08:38] <zetheroo> Kamilion: 9 out of 10 where Nvidia chipsets
[08:38] <Kamilion> Then the fans need replacement; prefereably with a better quality unit with decent bearings.
[08:38] <Bodman456> Kamilion: Compressed air is good, but be careful where you point the nozzle
[08:38] <User01> I just like to know if I can swap the hdd after installing linux on it with another pc and have it work
[08:38] <Kamilion> I get a lot of dells and HPs with stuck fans.
[08:38] <zetheroo> User01: yes
[08:39] <User01> woooooooohoooopp
[08:39] <zetheroo> User01: it will work ...
[08:39] <Kamilion> User01: Yes, ubuntu does hardware detection on every boot.
[08:39] <User01> thank you
[08:39] <User01> really?? whaoo
[08:39] <zetheroo> User01: but that will not solve your overheating issues ...
[08:39] <User01> saweeet screw windows heh
[08:39] <regint> is there a client for ubuntu for Juniper IPsec network?
[08:39] <User01> zethetoo no but it will saw me from parting out my laptop ;)
[08:40] <User01> save *
[08:40] <jamezek> i just did apt-get install pdns-recursor - how do i load it to change the nameserver
[08:40] <User01> and crying
[08:40] <zetheroo> User01: you can try manually controlling the fan speed if it's not spinning fast enouigh
[08:40] <Kamilion> If the fan is spinning slowly, User01, you should try to find a replacement cooler. And make sure you use good thermal compound like Artic Silver 5 or something
[08:41] <llutz> Yosi: strange, the file should come with the kernel-package
[08:41] <User01> zetheroo yes next boot I shall for sure
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[08:41] <Kamilion> jamezek: You using normal ubuntu with gnome and network-manager? Then just edit your auto eth0 and set your DNS to 127.0.0.1 or you can edit /etc/resolv.conf directly.
[08:41] <User01> kamilion: excellent idea except it's extremely hard to dismantlee a dv8000
[08:41] <zetheroo> User01: I run the temperature sensors in my panel which monitor temps and fan speeds ...  very handy
[08:41] <Kamilion> HAHAHAH yes! It IS! I HATE the DV series for that.
[08:42] <Yosi> Can it h grub on both D'surt installin
[08:42] <Kamilion> those cases are such PITAs.
[08:42] <Jordan_U> Yosi: http://sourceforge.net/projects/bootinfoscript/
[08:42] <User01> kamilion that is absolutely the last resort and I end up chucking it at a wall eventually heh
[08:42] <Yosi> sudo grub-instal /dev/sdb
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> Kamilion: network manager will recreate resolv.conf at startup so the dns needs adding in the nm config?
[08:42] <zetheroo> Kamilion: yeah, I was just going to say ... he will have to dis-assemble the darn thang ... :)
[08:42] <User01> zetheroo yup I did that aswell at least fir CPU th gpu didn't take
[08:42] <Kamilion> zetheroo: Hey, a $35 cooler on ebay's a lot cheaper than a $599 laptop replacement.
[08:43] <User01> kamilion very true mate
[08:43] <dubey> how to get latest hplip ?
[08:43] <Kamilion> the problem is, you have to get just the right MXM cooler for the right card
[08:43] <Kamilion> you're usually better off replacing the MXM card entirely sometimes, they're that model-specific.
[08:43] <zetheroo> Kamilion: oh certainly ... if one can take it all apart and put it all together it's a bargain :)
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> Dubey: go to the hplip site. Grab the script. Mark it as executable and run it as user (not sudo)
[08:44] <User01> like mine I'd have to get the mobo aswell
[08:44] <zetheroo> User01: what are the system specs .... ?
[08:44] <dubey> ActionParsnip: can u pls. give the url ?
[08:44] <Yosi> Jordan: I ran the script but nothing happened?
[08:44] <User01> kamilion: listen to this I just paid some douchebag college I'd to fix it claiming he knows about both Linux and windows
[08:45] <zetheroo> User01: might be worth it to just get what life you can outta it and work on saving for a new system ... and maybe not another HP ... heh
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> Dubey: unfortunately not. Webbrowsing is dog slow on my phone
[08:45] <Kamilion> It's not a matter of can, it's a matter of will/won't. I watched my ten year old niece build a beautiful amd desktop rig and install ubuntu on it, in less than an hour, with no help from me other than pointing out the little paper motherboard washers.
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> Dubey: websearches will find it, no problem
[08:45] <dubey> np
[08:45] <User01> zetheroo an amd 2.0 runs wonders on ubuntu` with 1.0 gb ram Ari 200 express handles compiz well too
[08:45] <zetheroo> Kamilion: hehe ... de ja vu ... I recall you telling me that before :)
[08:46] <Kamilion> She could barely understand windows; and yet with nothing more than a phillips screwdriver and the instructions "everything only goes together one way, it's all logical, just take your time".
[08:46] <Pirate_Hunter> Kamilion, nice if that is true, what are the specs?
[08:46] <dubey> ok, thanks
[08:46] <User01> I should ask the college kid for a discount considering g he told me there was nothing he could do and still chargesbme full pics
[08:46] <Kamilion> Basic AM2 IGP rig in a toolless desktop case. Single harddrive, single optical, all SATA, no cards.
[08:46] <User01> price
[08:47] <zetheroo> Kamilion; yes, I have seen some people do really well ... and then I have seen utter disasters ... mostly the latter .... so it's to each his/her own ay ...
[08:47] <yata> can some one help
[08:48] <Kamilion> I chose the parts; gigabyte 780G microatx board, cheap toolless case from newegg, came out to something like $450; and boy were her parents proud. Never seen my brother grin so wide.
[08:48] <zetheroo> User01: I would not spend too much time or money on that machine ... unless you have plenty of either/each :)
[08:48] <ojii> hi everyone
[08:48] <User01> I'm gonna tell him to install ubunru i'm real glad I didn't pick up the laptop tonight I'll run this info by him very suprising it will most likely work
[08:48] <wise_crypt> it works
[08:48] <Kamilion> Got 'em a CPU cooler with a decent thermal pad on it so she didn't have to smear goop.
[08:48] <Pirate_Hunter> Kamilion, nice very nice I guess its possible if I can make the lil ones like ubuntu by removing any other OS choices I guess this is possible and they are dam happy about it :)
[08:49] <ojii> i have grub installed on my notebook but i never see the grub screen, now i have to enter it to boot a different kernel (newest gives me kernel panic) but i have no clue how to open GRUB, can someone help please?
[08:49] <User01> zetgeroo especially since he ild me crapi already k new
[08:49] <User01> told*
[08:49] <Kamilion> Pirate_Hunter: Eh, I just kill the top panel and set the bottom panel to resemble windows 7 and most of my users can barely tell the difference with crossover office and wine.
[08:49] <Gryllida> hey, I've got .tar.gz file and instructions say 'extract to your home folder and run a certain file'.. would it be something wrong if I just double click it and open with package manager?
[08:50] <zetheroo> User01: yeah ... good luck ;)
[08:50] <User01> if it autodetecs hardware on boot boy am in in debt
[08:50] <User01> thanks
[08:50] <Yosi> JORDAN: the script did the trick... it says no botloader on sdb only on sda (windows drive)... can i move it over?   or should i install a second copy?
[08:50] <Kamilion> User01: Also -- ask him if he has a USB CDROM DRIVE
[08:50] <zetheroo> User01: it does and it will
[08:50] <Galerien> And with KDE, most of them can use it as a windows (xp + 7)/2
[08:50] <Kamilion> you could just use that to install with.
[08:50] <User01> thanks guys I almost gave up
[08:50] <zetheroo> heck you could install from a USB flash disk ... heh
[08:50] <User01> kamilion he just in it for the money I'm thinking
[08:50] <Yosi> sdb is my raid array, rather have it on their than my windows drive
[08:51] <wildbat_laptop> is there a macro/scripting tools for ubuntu like Autoit in windows, that do mouse simulation or Window message?
[08:51] <Pirate_Hunter> Kamilion, that could work if your users arent using apps like dreamweaver, expression web, CS* etc and your bothered to move the libraries over
[08:51] <Kamilion> Yosi: Install a second copy, disable the drive by yanking the SATA cable, and then ask windows to 'fixmbr' then 'fixboot' from a vista or 7 install disk. Hit Shift-f10 to get a commandprompt after you pick the language but before you hit Install Now.
[08:51] <DaveQB> Is security.ubuntu.com having issues?
[08:51] <User01> it will detect I'll tell him to pay more attention in school
[08:51] <Kamilion> Pirate_Hunter: They are. CS3.
[08:52] <Kamilion> DaveQB: yes, it is.
[08:52] <Pirate_Hunter> Kamilion, that works well with wine? I am very surprised...
[08:52] <DaveQB> Cool. Was worried it was just me. Thanks Kamilion
[08:52] <Yosi> Kamilion: if i install a second copy using grub-install /dev sdb, why do i have to fix the mbr on the windows drive can't i just leave grub their inactive?
[08:53] <Kamilion> Pirate_Hunter: Nope -- crossover office for CS3.
[08:53] <User01> he's  '4th year' anyway I'm curious to test this out before he gets my money I'd like somehing for it in return, thank you zetgeroo and kamilion you saved my sanity
[08:53] <Kamilion> Yosi: Guess ya don't!
[08:53] <Pirate_Hunter> Kamilion, Ahhh should've guess haven't used those in a long time why not just vm the window apps for all your users?
[08:54] <ojii> what's the key to get the grub (2?) screen on boot?
[08:54] <rww> ojii: hold down shift, if I remember correctly
[08:54] <Kamilion> Pirate_Hunter: They complain about network performance of remote desktop solutions.
[08:54] <zetheroo> User01: no worries mate ..
[08:54] <Yosi> Kamilion: by installin the new grub, will ubuntu know to update that grab whenever i upfdate the system or will it look for the old one?  also will it have my windows boot option there?
[08:55] <Kamilion> Yosi: Nope! It
[08:55] <Kamilion> Yosi: Nope! It'll only update one. First one it finds, usually the mbr on sda.
[08:55] <Pirate_Hunter> Kamilion, ah guess you can't make everyone happy I just tend to remove the option to make choices (that is when I can get away with it) either use it or don't simple as that
[08:55] <Gryllida> hey, I've got .tar.gz file and would it be something wrong if I just double click it and open with package manager?
[08:56] <oobie> anyone good at configuring synergy?
[08:56] <Kamilion> Pirate_Hunter: The other part is, I'm free to give them the finger and laugh in their face as well.
[08:56] <zetheroo> Gryllida:needs to be extracted first
[08:56] <Jordan_U> Kamilion: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" to change the setting for which devices are installed to on grub upgrades
[08:56] <zetheroo> oobie: heh ... just did that yesterday
[08:56] <Jordan_U> Yosi: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" to change the setting for which devices are installed to on grub upgrades
[08:56] <Kamilion> Yosi: <Jordan_U> Kamilion: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" to change the setting for which devices are installed to on grub upgrades
[08:57] <Yosi> Kamilion: is there any harm in having the grub on the windows drive instead of sdb (my raid array), if the sda ever dies, i can always boot from a live CD and install grub then...  no data loss write, just a bootloader...?
[08:57] <Kamilion> *scribbles that in google notebook*
[08:57] <Gryllida> zetheroo: extracted. then what?
[08:57] <oobie> zetheroo: through quicksynergy w/ ubuntu host?
[08:57] <Pirate_Hunter> Kamilion, that could work I actually laughed how many times i've thought about doing the same, oh you just made my morning thanks
[08:57] <zetheroo> Gryllida: depends what it is really ...
[08:57] <Smeh> anyone able to provide assistance with getting the cisco vpn client running on ubuntu 10.04? Currently it won't compile for me, patched or unpatched, CFLAGS changed or not..
[08:57] <zetheroo> oobie: two Ubuntu systems ... Karmic and Lucid ... yep
[08:58] <zetheroo> oobie: have you looked up the Ubuntu documentation on it?
[08:58] <Kamilion> Yosi: Pretty much, but I've actually booted grub2 from a cd and manually launched kernel+initrds without a problem in situations like that.
[08:58] <Jordan_U> Yosi: That command will also ask about other settings, just keep them at their defaults (some will be blank, that is normal)
[08:58] <Yosi> jordan and kamilion - thanks...
[08:58] <Gryllida> zetheroo: what should I look in it for?
[08:58] <Kamilion> Smeh: no option to run the Anyconnect VPN client?
[08:58] <iWolf> baiiiii!
[08:58] <zetheroo> Gryllida: what are you installing?
[08:58] <oobie> zetheroo: yea the problem is i have a dual monitor and a laptop client
[08:58] <Smeh> it's to a Cisco ASA host, so I don't think so? or does Anyconnect support connecting to cisco ASAs?
[08:58] <Kamilion> I use anyconnect to hit our ASA.
[08:59] <Jordan_U> Kamilion: Manually? That's what Super GRUB2 Disk is for :)
[08:59] <Smeh> well. In that case i'll look into Anyconnect, thanks.
[08:59] <zetheroo> oobie: well I am not working with dual monitors here ... just a laptop and desktop with one monitor
[08:59] <dde> does anyone here happen to know what that free massively multiplayer arcade style space ship shooter game is where you can choose a ship and takes sides? I think its a FOSS game.
[08:59] <ojii> rww, didn't work, was holding down shift but it still gave me kernel panic and not a boot menu
[08:59] <Kamilion> Jordan_U: Noooooooope. I doubt it'd be able to find which partition, kernel, and initrd in the mess of EFI partitions on my work boxes ;)
[08:59] <zetheroo> oobie: so you have already been here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynergyHowto
[09:00] <Yosi> Here is a tuffer question:  I'm running the 64bit server copy of 10.04 and every few reboots i get a fschl that halts... any idea why?   when i google the error its seems common on 10.04 64bit
[09:00] <zetheroo> oobie: all I had to do was the Quickstart Guide section and it was working
[09:00] <Kamilion> dde: Subspace Continuum?
[09:00] <oobie> zetheroo: yea i have experience with dual monitors on win7 host but i'm not sure how the config file goes
[09:00] <dde> Kamilion, that sounds like that's the one. Let me check...
[09:01] <Jordan_U> Kamilion: It won't detect kernels if you have a separate /boot, but it will detect grub.cfg files and let you use that :)
[09:01] <Kamilion> Jordan_U: Oooh, now that's handy. Usually I have grub4dos set up to do that.
[09:01] <zetheroo> oobie: sorry I don't mess with dual screens in Linux ... I have found it's just too much hassle than it's worth ... but glad you have it working ...
[09:01] <regint> Hi, Is there a client for ubuntu for Juniper IPsec network?
[09:01] <Kamilion> yes, the ipsec client.
[09:02] <oobie> zetheroo: thanks i'll keep digging
[09:02] <dde> Kamilion, that was it. looks like its for winblows though :(
[09:02] <zetheroo> oobie: good luck ... let us know what you come up with ;)
[09:02] <Kamilion> dde: there's a linux continuum client out there
[09:03] <Gryllida> zetheroo: http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Installing+and+Configuring+Spark and I don't want to just extract and run it from home dir, I'd rather give the .tar.gz to package manager
[09:03] <Kamilion> dde: I had it working at some point when I used to play continuum.
[09:03] <dde> Kamilion, found it. thanks
[09:03] <Kamilion> What's the link?
[09:03] <ojii> I'm getting a "kernel panic not syncing vfs unable to mount root fs" and read on the web that it's "GRUBs fault", but I don't really get any info on how to solve this that does not involve reinstalling the system
[09:05] <dde> test
[09:06] <Kamilion> wheeee, netsplit!
[09:06] <ojii> is a notebook supposed to boot from CD automatically if i insert one?
[09:07] <Docteh> ojii: usually
[09:07] <koshari1> ojii: only if you select it in th ebios
[09:07] <ojii> really gotta get my system booting again before the boss shows up or i'll have to use mac osx :(
[09:08] <jMCg> Ooooh....
[09:08] <Kamilion> ? Just install the debian packages from fink!
[09:09] <abadr> Xorg is using as much CPU as it can get, even though all I have open is a single terminal. Running 10.4 in a VM. Any ideas?
[09:09] <FloodBot4> !netsplit
[09:09] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[09:09] <jMCg> abadr: what VM?
[09:09] <abadr> vmware fusion
[09:09] <jMCg> abadr: what's X doing?
[09:09] <abadr> it has done this once before, rebooting fixed it for a while
[09:10] <abadr> jMCg: I'm not sure?
[09:10] <jMCg> Rebooting fixes shit on Unix.
[09:10] <ojii> yay i get the cd booting, now can someone give me a hand with how to fix a "kernel panic not syncing vfs unable to mount root fs"?
[09:10] <Gryllida> http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Installing+and+Configuring+Spark and I don't want to just extract and run it from home dir, I'd rather give the .tar.gz to package manager - would it be allright?
[09:10] <mendocinox> ikonia?
[09:10] <abadr> X is running gnome if that's what you mean
[09:10] <ikonia> yes ?
[09:10] <jMCg> abadr: strace -ff -p $pidofX
[09:11] <iwobbles> is it possible to roll back ubuntu to a previous version after updates which broke the computer ?
[09:11] <koshari1> iwobbles kernel versions?
[09:11] <tsekine> Hey guys, who should I notify if security.ubuntu.com is very slow?
[09:11] <mendocinox> hello ikonia bruder
[09:11] <solow> Doesn't Ubuntu have Verdana?
[09:11] <Mrokii__> Can I add an icon to menu-entries (in the applications-menu) that have no icon?
[09:12] <Gryllida> !info Verdana
[09:12] <linux> wheres the one i pinged
[09:12] <iwobbles> I think so koshari1, it worked fine on 9.04 but 9.10 doesnt work neither does 10.04
[09:12] <tsekine> I've seen some some people reporting security.ubuntu.com slowness on twitter and here
[09:12] <solow> I mean the font. Font type verdana.
[09:12] <Pirate_Hunter> anyone care to verify this as well -  Err http://security.ubuntu.com lucid-security Release.gpg  Connection failed [IP: 91.189.92.166 80], just tried the update and it came up, maybe the system is down?
[09:12] <abadr> jMCg: seeing a lot of rt_sigprocmask and then it all froze :|
[09:12] <Kamilion> yes, security.ubuntu.com is having problems.
[09:13] <iwobbles> koshari1 I thought there was a prompt at start up something to do with grub maybey I dunno
[09:13] <Kamilion> would somebody topic that?! Heh
[09:13] <koshari1> iwobbles: if you installed upgraded the same installations you wont be able to roll back to a previous dist.
[09:13] <Pirate_Hunter> Kamilion, thanks didn't know and yes would be nice if someone added that to topic but I wonder how many actually read the topic
[09:14] <iwobbles> mm okies I just checked it only has 9.10 now available, I will re load 9.04 from disk thanks koshari1
[09:14] <koshari1> about 2 km
[09:15] <ojii> hm when booting ubuntu 10.04 from cd it seems to stay forever in the splash screen, how long does that usually take?
[09:15] <darrend> hi.. what's the correct way to update the alternatives system for something like java which has many entries in /etc/alternatives ?
[09:17] <jMCg> darrend: update-alternatives --config --all
[09:17] <llutz> darrend: sudo update-alternatives --config  <app>
[09:18] <nuboon2age> USB pen drives failing to automount in Lucid.  Any ideas what to do?
[09:18] <Bodman456> hey
[09:18] <oobie> zetheroo: found it; http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/configuration.html
[09:18] <ojii> the lucid live-cd is in the splash screen for 9 minutes now, is that normal?
[09:19] <oobie> zetheroo: it's under the 'Links' section
[09:19] <kingflower> what
[09:19] <kingflower> china
[09:19] <zetheroo> oobie: ahh ... good find ...
[09:19] <kingflower> What's this?
[09:20] <kingflower> 这是什么
[09:20] <loewi> ojil: 11 - 12 min is normal for my old Celeron M laptop 1GHz - patience. Runs smooth once its loaded
[09:20] <fanti> hello! after the last dist-upgrade a few days ago, my network interfaces do not configure automatically. 'sudo service network-interfaces start' reports an error: start: Unknown parameter: INTERFACE
[09:20] <Bodman456> Do any of you guys run Ubuntu 10.04 on a laptop?
[09:20] <zetheroo> Gryllida: why not just follow the instructions?
[09:20] <Bodman456> I need help with a battery reporting error
[09:20] <ojii> loewi, it's a MBP and a quite new one too...
[09:21] <Gryllida> zetheroo: I doubt that /home/ is a very nice location for an app I install.
[09:21] <oobie> zetheroo: and now for my attempt..
[09:21] <darrend> llutz: thanks, but that only updates one of the relevant symlinks.  Is there a way to know how to do all together?
[09:21] <ojii> I think from now on i'll just completely ignore all updates
[09:21] <llutz> darrend: see jMCg
[09:21] <loewi> ojil: hmm... sorry to hear
[09:21] <darrend> jMCg: I get an error with that syntax (tried with various package names on it too)
[09:21] <zetheroo> Gryllida: why is that?
[09:21] <vlt_> Hello. I'm runninig Ubuntu 10.04 in a remote vnc session. In xterm everything works fine but as soon as I start gnome-session I can't use the small "s" anymore. _Every_ other capital or small letter is fine but "s" opens the upper right logout/shutdown dialog. Any idea how to fix this?
[09:21] <Mojodojo87> i installed the russian keyboard layout how do i switch from english to russian and vice versa?
[09:22] <bazz> is there a way to change environment variables of running processes? (not from within the process itself)
[09:22] <llutz> darrend: without --config       "sudo update-alternatives --all"
[09:23] <Gryllida> zetheroo: "Extract the .tar.gz file to your home folder. To run Spark, type ~/Spark/Spark" does it not mean that it will run from /home/ every time I launch it afterwards? thus making /home/ be the install dir?
[09:24] <Gryllida> zetheroo: which I would not like to be.
[09:24] <zetheroo> Gryllida: to my understanding there is nothing to "install" as such ... you simply "run" it
[09:24] <darrend> llutz: thanks.. was ploughing through the man page too :)
[09:25] <zetheroo> Gryllida: otherwise try to find a repo for this software or a packaged DEB
[09:25] <ojii> okay the live cd is in the splash screen with the 5 dots 'loading bar' for 15 minutes now.... what can I do?
[09:25] <vlt_> In openbox is works fine too, it's just gnome-session that occupies the "s" key.
[09:25] <ojii> don't wanna lose all my data on that machine :(
[09:25] <Mojodojo87> i installed the russian keyboard layout how do i switch from english to russian and vice versa? I'm using Ubuntu 9.10.
[09:25] <vlt_> !repeat | Mojodojo87
[09:26] <loewi> ojii: did yuo check the live cd for errors after you burned it?
[09:26] <ojii> loewi, i think that's the one i used to install the system in the first place, so it DID work
[09:26] <ojii> and the system worked for about a month
[09:27] <ojii> then when trying to boot this morning i got a kernel panic
[09:27] <ojii> aha
[09:27] <ojii> "(initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system" is what i get now
[09:27] <ojii> looks like a shell
[09:28] <vishnu> hi,how to change the device name of a usb pendrive?? by, default it appears as"new volume"
[09:28] <theuros> someone can explain me .. i work directly on a server ... and .. if i mount FTP location .. connection isn't stable .. i have to allways refresh it to keep it alive ... but if i mount the same location via SSH .. then connection is stable and i don't have to refreshit to keep it alive .. why is that ? .... i mount it with default ubuntu file manager
[09:28] <loewi> ojii: hardware error or so? sorry, not sure how to continue from here
[09:28] <zetheroo> Gryllida: yeah, this is not an installation ... it's just meant to be run ... pretty simple
[09:28] <ebah_> I linked my xbox to my laptop and then to a router. Would putting the wireless card in promiscuous mode help the bridges speed?
[09:29] <ojii> loewi, it's a shell, any idea how i can mount my harddrive so i can edit grub settings to give me a menu?
[09:29] <Docteh> vi?
[09:29] <vishnu> KingK, hi,how to change the device name of a usb pendrive?? by, default it appears as"new volume"
[09:30] <DaveQB> vishnu: http://embraceubuntu.com/2006/03/01/editing-fat32-partition-labels-using-mtools/
[09:30] <User01> what is he difference between lucid and ubuntu`
[09:30] <User01> GUI?
[09:30] <ZachK_> User01: Ah Lucid is an Ubuntu Release
[09:30] <llutz> User01: lucid is a version-name of ubuntu (10.04)
[09:30] <Bodman456> User01: lucid is Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[09:30] <vishnu> DaveQB: thank u
[09:30] <ZachK_> !release | User01
[09:31] <DaveQB> vishnu: No worries. I had to search that and do it the other night
[09:31] <User01> ok I had that one then
[09:31] <User01> very sexy
[09:31] <vishnu> DaveQB: :)
[09:32] <Bodman456> User01: lucid is part of the the codename for Ubuntu 10.04, and the full codename is Lucid Lynx
[09:33] <User01> Bodmann456 agh okay no problem
[09:33] <loewi> ojii: try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery
[09:34] <ojii> aha hitting "c" after starting live cd gives me optiosn
[09:35] <dok-> do anyone know in what package xf86Resources.h is included in, is it even supported on Ubuntu?
[09:35] <h4x07> hey
[09:36] <ojii> thanks loewi gonna try that now
[09:36] <loewi> ojii: good luck!
[09:36] <ojii> thanks, gonna need it
[09:38] <kiamo> hi, im trying to install ubuntu on an old machine, but when booting from the usb stick, the screen seems to lock at an image of a keyboard and a man in a circle.  What does it mean?
[09:38] <ojii> loewi, any chance you know how i can boot into a shell instead of gui with the lucid live cd?
[09:38] <ojii> kiamo, try hitting 'c', that did the job for me
[09:38] <kiamo> ojii, nothing :(
[09:40] <kiamo> what does it mean anyway?  Is that a loading logo?  Or maybe it doesn't recognise the keyboard or something?
[09:40] <kiamo> OH
[09:40] <kiamo> something happened
[09:40] <loewi> ojii: from the live cd boot menu you should be ale to access the recovery mode
[09:40] <kiamo> good good, it seems to be progressing
[09:40] <kiamo> lol
[09:40] <ojii> loewi, didn't see such a thing, is live cd == install cd?
[09:41] <relay> hi all!
[09:41] <vlt_> theuros: Google for "ftp must die!"
[09:42] <ojii> damn why is ubuntu so eager to boot into a gui :(
[09:42] <Gryllida> zetheroo: ok I followed the instructions, launched a /home/spark/spark, it opened its window, not that it looks that it's going to install itself, it is just going to reside in that directory; where does it store its settings then? somewhere in /home/spark/ or at some other location?
[09:42] <misterinteger> Can someone help me out with exactly that?
[09:42] <relay> Can anybody help me whit an ubuntu problem?
[09:42] <kiamo> ojii, yes.  If you boot into the live cd, you can start the install process from inside
[09:42] <misterinteger> my ubuntu is not booting into a gui at all.
[09:43] <Pirate_Hunter> I have a directory with tar files and folders is their a command that would move all the folders while ignoring the tar files compared to using mv (folder(s))?
[09:43] <zetheroo> Gryllida:yes, it should do pretty much everything inside of that one directory .. there may be some other configs it interacts with though ...
[09:43] <misterinteger> I am having trouble with gdm, can someone help me out?
[09:44] <zetheroo> Gryllida: I don't use it so don't have intel on the ins and outs of the app ...
[09:44] <llutz> Pirate_Hunter: find dir -type d -exec mv {} target/ \;
[09:44] <bigbang12> is there any gui in ubuntu server
[09:45] <dennda> I have just installed the Linux kernel 2.6.34 and my nvidia driver does not work anymore. Wasnt that supposed to be a problem of the past? How do I install it again?
[09:45] <vishnu> DaveQB: i'm an absolute beginner, i'm not able to follow the step 4,of what u gave the procedure of changing the volume name, plz help
[09:45] <Pirate_Hunter> llutz, thanks will try that
[09:46] <DaveQB> vishnu: I just edited /etc/mtools.conf
[09:46] <DaveQB> vishnu: I added drive i: file="/dev/sdf" to the bottom of it as that was the drive I needed to rename.
[09:46] <Bodman456> dennda: go to System>Administration>Hardware Drivers and activate the latest driver.
[09:47] <vishnu> DaveQB: should jus tye that?
[09:47] <misterinteger> my computer is not booting into gnome correctly, what should I try?
[09:47] <DaveQB> vishnu:  sorry?
[09:47] <dennda> Bodman456: And will that do it for the new kernel? There is one already activated. Do you want me to reinstall it?
[09:47] <vishnu> DaveQB:ok,will try that
[09:47] <DaveQB> misterinteger: What are you getting?
[09:47] <dennda> Bodman456: I have installed that kernel manually from a ppa
[09:48] <misterinteger> I'm getting errors having to do with music files not loading correctly
[09:48] <misterinteger> I was trying to install mpd, and screwed something up bad.
[09:48] <dok-> Any one here who have got the Chrome9 (openchrome) chip working? For me it is only vesa that works
[09:48] <chuck> anyone have any expeirence with win 2k advanced server and ubuntu? trying to map shares to my ubuntu machines from my 2k server
[09:49] <loopidity> is it possible to see the time in bash_history?
[09:49] <Pirate_Hunter> llutz, I keep getting find: missing argument to `-exec' not sure which part I got wrong from that command
[09:49] <loopidity> and date
[09:50] <Bodman456> dennda: try reinstalling through Hardware Drivers, see if that works.
[09:50] <llutz> Pirate_Hunter: whats the exect command you used?
[09:50] <misterinteger> Instead of booting to gnome, the system just boots to a shell.
[09:50] <loopidity> misterinteger sduo service gdm start
[09:51] <DaveQB> misterinteger: Ok can you login?
[09:51] <DaveQB> misterinteger:  in the text screen
[09:51] <misterinteger> "gdm start/running, process 1727"
[09:51] <misterinteger> I can log in, yes.
[09:51] <dok-> loopidity: in tcsh you can use export HISTTIMEFORMAT=’%a %T ‘
[09:51] <Pirate_Hunter> llutz,  sudo find dir -type d -exec mv {} target /var/www/..../;
[09:51] <Bodman456> misterinteger: try rebooting now
[09:51] <dennda> Bodman456: No, as expected
[09:52] <loopidity> dok- whats tcsh
[09:52] <misterinteger> okay, rebooting
[09:52] <llutz> Pirate_Hunter: end with \;   you have to escape the ;
[09:52] <DaveQB> misterinteger:  I would inspect a log file first
[09:52] <DaveQB> misterinteger: and then restart gdm
[09:52] <dok-> loopidity: a shell like bash
[09:52] <misterinteger> restart gdm?
[09:52] <DaveQB> misterinteger: sudo tail /var/log/gdm.log perhaps
[09:52] <misterinteger> all right, just a sec
[09:53] <dok-> loopidity: but try the export i think it might work in bash3
[09:53] <DaveQB> misterinteger:  or sudo grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:53] <loopidity> dok- so HISTTIMEFORMAT=’%a %T ‘ in the shell would do the trick?
[09:53] <DaveQB> misterinteger: We might see the reason gdm.X is not starting
[09:53] <DaveQB> misterinteger:  gdm/X I mean
[09:53] <llutz> Pirate_Hunter: find dir -type d -exec mv {} target/ \;            where "dir" is the directory with the tar and "target/" the dir you want to move the content to
[09:54] <DaveQB> misterinteger: cd /var/log/ ; sudo ls -tl X*
[09:54] <Pirate_Hunter> llutz, awww I thought the dir stood as part of the command sorry for that
[09:54] <misterinteger> (EE) config/hal: oculdn't initialise context: unknown error (null)
[09:54] <DaveQB> misterinteger:  The top file will be the name of the log file for Xorg and you should tail that
[09:54] <dok-> loopidity: yes
[09:54] <DaveQB> misterinteger: Oh boy
[09:54] <DaveQB> misterinteger:  that looks nasty
[09:55] <evilsherpa> hey all, i seem to have a mount point that has no point
[09:55] <evilsherpa> how do i get rid of it?
[09:55] <DaveQB> misterinteger: cd /var/log/ ; sudo ls -tl X*
[09:55] <misterinteger> yeah, I get the same error.
[09:55] <DaveQB> Just to make sure we have the right file
[09:55] <misterinteger> in the top file of that directory
[09:55] <dok-> loopidity: dont forget the export command in the beginning: export HISTTIMEFORMAT="%h/%d - %H:%M:%S "
[09:56] <loopidity> :q
[09:56] <dok-> loopidity: if it works and you want to save it edit /etc/bashrc and add the line export HISTTIMEFORMAT="%h/%d - %H:%M:%S "
[09:56] <User01> askin 1 more time b4 I go to bed, can I install linux on my desktop and use it on my laptop
[09:57] <loopidity> so if i export the hist... then i should be able to see the time in bash_history? (do i understand it right dok-)
[09:57] <dok-> loopidity: yes
[09:57] <dok-> tail -f ~/.bash_history
[09:59] <loopidity> dok using the -f hangs up
[09:59] <flodin> User01: you need to install linux on your laptop of you want to use it on your laptop
[09:59] <data> hey. i updated from karmic to lucid and now ubuntu doesn't start anymore. I tried both grub 1 and 2, as well as older kernels. In recovery mode, it stops after "/dev/sda2 clean"
[10:00] <Pirate_Hunter> llutz, it seems to work, however when sending to target I get the output -  mv: missing destination file operand after '/var/www/.../' which shouldn't happen
[10:00] <flodin> User01: unless you want to remote-connect to the desktop machine
[10:00] <data> before that, there are lots of deprecation-warnings from udev
[10:00] <data> and then an error "ioctl: unable to remove open device temporary-cryptsetup-366"
[10:01] <llutz> Pirate_Hunter: you wrote /var/www/yourdir/  with a trailing "/" ?
[10:01] <dok-> loopidity: open another terminal then you will se the tail of the bash history in real time
[10:02] <Pirate_Hunter> llutz, yes...
[10:02] <loopidity> does it take a while to load? it gets stuck . dok-
[10:02] <regint> Hi, Is there a client for ubuntu for Juniper IPsec network?
[10:03] <dok-> loopidity: ok, skip the tail command just type some commands and then just check your bash history file
[10:04] <llutz> Pirate_Hunter: "shouldn't happen" :(        so you used it like ->     -exec mv {} /var/www/yourdir/ \;
[10:05] <BrixSat> Morning all :)
[10:05] <BrixSat> i need some help on ATI RADEON X2300 install on ubuntu
[10:05] <rocket16> Good morning BrixSat, :)
[10:05] <hatex> good luck
[10:05] <misterinteger> okay, if all of y'all don't have any more ideas, I'm going to do a full reinstall.
[10:06] <rocket16> misterinteger: Friend, what is the problem? I just joined, and could not see the question.
[10:06] <Pirate_Hunter> llutz, yup I know it shouldn't happen, no worries will use mv instead and explore that command in more detail when I have free time at least I learnt something new, thanks for that
[10:06]  * rocket16 likes this channel, :)
[10:06] <misterinteger> heh, my computer isn't booting to gnome, just to a shell.
[10:07] <misterinteger> gdm is messed up.
[10:07] <rocket16> misterinteger: I see, you mean xterm shell?
[10:07] <loopidity> minterinteger reinstall gnome
[10:07] <data> hey. i updated from karmic to lucid and now ubuntu doesn't start anymore. I tried both grub 1 and 2, as well as older kernels. In recovery mode, it stops after "/dev/sda2 clean". This is preceded by an error "ioctl: unable to remove open device temporary-cryptsetup-366"
[10:07] <misterinteger> I suppose it's xterm shell.
[10:07] <data> and then lot's of udevd deprecation notices
[10:07] <rocket16> misterinteger: In that, type: sudo apt-get purge gdm and then enter: sudo apt-get install gdm
[10:07] <llutz> Pirate_Hunter:you may try this:      find dir -type d -print |xargs mv /var/www/yourdir/
[10:08] <misterinteger> hmm, I would do that if I had internet access wirelessly.
[10:09] <Rmoz1> hello room
[10:09] <rocket16> misterinteger: Ok, no problem, in that terminal, type: cd ~ and then: rm .gdm
[10:10] <BrixSat> :( i cant enable desktop efects on my ubuntu with ati radeon x2300 :s
[10:10] <Rmoz1> which is better xchat or mirc tried both mirc semms tidier but xchat got something
[10:10] <rocket16> BrixSat: After installing drivers, restart the System. Then it will wor.
[10:10] <rocket16> * work
[10:10] <Rmoz1> which is better xchat or mirc tried both mirc semms tidier but xchat got something?
[10:10] <misterinteger> okay, but then i won't be able to reinstall it.
[10:11] <BrixSat> rocket16:  the problem is with the driver, i cant install it some stupid error :s
[10:11] <rocket16> misterinteger: No problem, that won't uninstall. It will just reset gdm. Just use cd ~ and then: rm .gdm (no need to uninstall)
[10:11] <misterinteger> ahh
[10:12] <Rmoz1> if frrenode is a free irc server to be used for ircing why is everyone in it a linux nerd
[10:12] <Pirate_Hunter> llutz, thanks not sure what's wrong but will explore more into it at another time
[10:12] <Rmoz1> if frrenode is a free irc server to be used for ircing why is everyone in it a linux nerd?
[10:12] <llutz> !ot> Rmoz1
[10:13] <misterinteger> rocket16: telling me there's no such file or directory
[10:14] <flomoto> hello
[10:14] <rocket16> misterinteger: Did you give the . before gdm? It is needed, so it is: rm .gdm and not rm gdm
[10:14] <rocket16> Hello flomoto
[10:14] <KukMan> WHere is I can get know what keys I must write in <> in .XCompose? I want use cyrillic ъ character
[10:14] <KukMan> it is in the utf table - U+042A	Ъ	d0 aa	CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER HARD SIGN
[10:14] <misterinteger> I did
[10:15] <rocket16> misterinteger: Ok, still the same error?
[10:15] <misterinteger> yeah, in both the home folder and root folder.
[10:15] <llutz> misterinteger: does "startx" work?
[10:15] <misterinteger> I get the same unknown null error.
[10:16] <llutz> misterinteger: so its a X prblem, not gdm
[10:16] <rocket16> misterinteger: I see, then possibly a reinstallation of gdm is needed, :( Or, another way, is to uninstall ubuntu-desktop and reinstall it,
[10:16] <toader> Hi, what does "data locality" mean? thanks
[10:17] <rocket16> Bye all
[10:17] <misterinteger> wait, does that mean that I somehow removed gdm entirely?
[10:17] <misterinteger> it shows up in aptitude
[10:17] <llutz> misterinteger: apt-cache policy gdm
[10:18] <misterinteger> installed: 2.28.1-0ubuntu2.2
[10:18] <llutz> misterinteger: so its there.
[10:19] <Taulus> Hello! Can anyone tell me why 9.04 doesn't shut down my computer?
[10:20] <misterinteger> the aptitude page for gdm suggests two things: gok and uswsusp
[10:20] <nikolam> Taulus, try installing latest, 10.04
[10:21] <Taulus> I would like to keep 9.04 but I guess that would be the best option.
[10:22] <misterinteger> xorg suggests xorg-docs
[10:22] <iceroot> Taulus: without any errors/usefull details we cant help
[10:24] <rey> hello guyz
[10:24] <rey> I want to create CD of my current ubuntu
[10:24] <Taulus> I understand iceroot I don't have access to the details at the moment. Another time
[10:24] <rey> I have installed updates and some other applications, and I want to backup it in a cd, is it possible?
[10:25] <data> anyone able to help?i updated from karmic to lucid and now ubuntu doesn't start anymore. I tried both grub 1 and 2, as well as older kernels. In recovery mode, it stops after "/dev/sda2 clean". This is preceded by an error "ioctl: unable to remove open device temporary-cryptsetup-366"
[10:25] <rey> Will you guide me please regarding making a back up of current ubuntu
[10:25] <ZachK_> rey: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man8/mondoarchive.8.html
[10:25] <ZachK_> !patience | rey
[10:26] <rey> @ZachK_ thanks
[10:26] <ZachK_> :D
[10:26] <rey> And @Ubottu I am sorry for repeating my question, I shall be careful about it for the next time.
[10:26] <ZachK_> rey: it's cool....just a note for reference
[10:29] <luis_> Hi, how reconfigure mi splash???
[10:31] <luis_> Hey you, How reconfigure my fucking splash screen?
[10:31] <mad_dog> morning all
[10:35] <BrixSat> why do i always get "aticonfig: No supported adapters detected " when installing my graphic card driver? ati radeon x2300
[10:37] <mad_dog> brix what version of ubuntu
[10:37] <Comic> ???
[10:37] <Comic> 这是啥？
[10:38] <BrixSat> mad_dog: lucy ubuntu 10.4 -.-
[10:39] <Galerien> !cn | Comic
[10:39] <sburjan> what is the shortcut to lock mystation ?
[10:39] <erUSUL> BrixSat: fglrx does not support your card being too old ?
[10:39] <e-DIO-t> hi there: does anybody know why eth0.10 cointinues going UP at networking reboot [http://paste.ubuntu.com/446554/ < /etc/network/interfaces]?
[10:39] <Galerien> sburjan: ctrl + alt + l
[10:39] <Galerien> sburjan: ctrl + alt + L
[10:39] <happyaron> Comic: please join #ubuntu-cn
[10:40] <BrixSat> erUSUL:  how do i know that?
[10:40] <Galerien> erUSUL: Yes it doesn't
[10:40] <Galerien> erUSUL: if you have some technical question about your ati card, please /join #ati
[10:40] <mad_dog> brix try this.. http://bit.ly/9cmNbL
[10:41] <BrixSat> mad_dog:  :D
[10:41] <erUSUL> Galerien: you surely want to talk to BrixSat
[10:41] <e-DIO-t> No more "cached" eth0.10 on reboot ;)
[10:42] <BrixSat> mad_dog that is for old systems
[10:44] <dok-> how is it possible to start the ubuntu netbook version in failsafe mode or any mode so i can reach the terminal and edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[10:45] <dok-> now it just starts with alot of flattering and ctrl+alt+fx dont get me to the terminal and ctrl+alt+backspace does not kill xorg
[10:46] <maxxer> hi.is there any specific kernel for ATOM processors? I am using 9.10, and the pc is quite slow, even if the atom is a quad core!
[10:46] <Galerien> dok-: I don't know about the ubuntu netbook version... but you can boot on your live cd (if you have any) or you usb stick, that way you will be able to edit easily your .conf...
[10:46] <ikonia> maxxer: is it visually slow, or slow at processing ?
[10:47] <maxxer> ikonia, slow expecially with javascript...
[10:47] <maxxer> i have a JS app pretty huge
[10:47] <maxxer> and on that PC is slow like hell
[10:47] <ikonia> maxxer: ok so keep in mind there are two things here, visually slow, and slow processing, visually slow is the most common issue and tht's normally caused by graphics cards being configured incorrectly
[10:48] <pogay1> I try to get running a tiny digitus IPP print server. The manual says http:/ip-nr:631/lpr1  as device URI (examle for Windows). the Samslung CLP300 works locally via USB, but when calling over the print server, the printer blinks only, and doesn't print. Any idea?
[10:48] <maxxer> ikonia, thanks, but I believe it's not a "visually" slow problem
[10:48] <ikonia> maxxer: have you verified this ?
[10:48] <ikonia> maxxer: just being cautious before you rush down the wrong path
[10:49] <Galerien> maxxer: did you try google chrome, I heard that it's very fast for js rendering....?
[10:49] <BiggFREE> Hi
[10:49] <maxxer> ikonia, how can i test, just to be sure? I have my believe, but could be wrong as you say
[10:49] <maxxer> Galerien, chrome is much faster! but i cannot use it because printing totally sucks
[10:49] <dok-> Galerien: Thanks, I tryed that byt then the usb stick did now want to boot so im recreating the usb-install and try again
[10:50] <elzalem> sorry for the large text: anyone has this problem when running an X application as root; 1st it takes more time to load, 2nd it shows another "tab" in the bottom panel for 10 seconds saying "Starting Administrative rights" or "launching app..." and in the meanwhile u dont have the normal cursor, u have the busy mouse cursor ??
[10:50] <ikonia> maxxer: a fair question, look at running a few "busy" commands in the termal, as the terminal doesn't require any display processing, also run "top" in another window and see how your cpu/memory resources differ and for what periods of time
[10:50] <Galerien> dok-: You should be able to chose "use ubuntu without making change to the computer", or something like that...?
[10:51] <iamtoinez> hello is it possible that anyone helps with kvm
[10:51] <Galerien> maxxer: If you say so :D, I don't know about chrome "printing"
[10:51] <iamtoinez> kvm is running and guests are installed
[10:51] <maxxer> Galerien, yes, i.e. you cannot print a single page, just the whole document. on linux, at least. and this is not applicable in my situation, sadly. otherwise could solve most of my speed problems
[10:52] <Lantizia> Did the Yahoo! deal fall through? does anyone have information on that?
[10:52] <Galerien> maxxer: and print screen? (please don't hit me)
[10:52] <maxxer> Galerien, not funny.... grrr :)
[10:52] <iamtoinez> i'm having trouble to connect to internet from 2 guests
[10:53] <iamtoinez> i have 3 public ips and 5 servers
[10:53] <iamtoinez> kvm ( guest )
[10:53] <maxxer> ikonia, what's the purpose of that check?
[10:53] <data> anyone able to help?i updated from karmic to lucid and now ubuntu doesn't start anymore. I tried both grub 1 and 2, as well as older kernels. In recovery mode, it stops after "/dev/sda2 clean". This is preceded by an error "ioctl: unable to remove open device temporary-cryptsetup-366"
[10:54] <ikonia> maxxer: it will show if your machine is responding ok under the hood, of if your machine is suffering visually
[10:56] <Galerien> maxxer: have you tried to find some plugin? that's a long shot but it might help you as a temporary solution...
[10:56] <maxxer> ikonia, to check if it works under the hood... I should perform some specific test, isn't it?something that would say "to make X, it takes Y, and it's good/bad", isn't it?
[10:56] <ikonia> maxxer: that's not a bad idea, there are plenty of "hello world" type programs on the internet, build one of them
[10:58] <Coudy> Hi, how to manually sync Ubuntu One ?
[10:59] <maxxer> Galerien, haven't found any :(
[11:00] <maxxer> what about LPIA arch?
[11:00] <CSiD> I have done a 64-bit minimal install and it all works perfect and fast but has only 2 issues I need help with
[11:02] <kriss3d> Goodmorning everyone. uhmm all the suddenly i get message whenever i log on to ubuntu 10.04 could not update .ICEauthority how do i fix that ? ive read up on it but changing to manual login doesnt work
[11:02] <CSiD> anyone here know about getting ipod touch firmware 3.1.3 t oappear in rhythmbox
[11:03] <MrChris> Install WINE then run iTunes
[11:03] <CSiD> think I want to crash and use proprietary stuff on my system when I know its possible with rhythmbox faster and lighter
[11:03] <erUSUL> kriss3d: if it is a permissions problem (becouse you used sudo with a graphical program) just boot into recovery mode and run « chown youruser:youruser /home/youruser/.ICEauthority » then reboot
[11:04] <MrChris> using other software to load firmware onto your ipod can void its warranty.
[11:04] <BlackDalek> why does evolution mail client always hang when downloading new messages? The "send & receive Mail" box sits there for ages after mail has finished downloading.
[11:04] <erUSUL> !ipod
[11:04] <pog> I'm wondring how I can find out the correct device URI for a hw printserver, where a samsung CLP300 is connected - und Ubuntu (CUPS it would be http://printhost:631/printers/printername - and the printer works like this as Network-Printer on an other pc)
[11:04] <kriss3d> erUSUL,  thanks. ok.. uhmm i have another problem. For some reason when i use guarddog (frontend for iptables) and even with all ports open on
[11:05] <ojii> hi everyone
[11:05] <ojii> is there a way to downgrade my kernel version?
[11:05] <kriss3d> erUSUL,  oh. just meant to say thanks.. ill just see if that works
[11:05] <CSiD> ubottu, the actual issue is that the ipod touch is visible o nthe desktop as an ipod, but rhythmbox doesnt see it
[11:05] <ojii> the latest (22) panics on boot
[11:05] <erUSUL> kriss3d: no problem :)
[11:05] <pog> as the printer only blinks when I print via hardware printserver, I'm wondring where the problem could be.
[11:05] <erUSUL> CSiD: ubottu is an infobot
[11:06] <CSiD> oh right sorry
[11:06] <CSiD> but anyone know how I can view the ipod fro mrhythmbox?
[11:07] <erUSUL> CSiD: enabling the ipod plugin ? ( never owned an ipod ... )
[11:07] <bazhang> CSiD, this is 10.04?
[11:07] <CSiD> yes, minimal install
[11:07] <pog> are there incompatible (to Ubuntu Cups)  IPP printers arround?
[11:07] <bazhang> CSiD, aha
[11:07] <thune3> data: you have some encrypted portion in your setup?
[11:07] <bazhang> CSiD, full install works with mine
[11:07] <CSiD> I have rhythmbox AND libgpod
[11:07] <Lantizia> Did the Yahoo! deal fall through? does anyone have information on that?
[11:07] <ortsvorsteher> !ot | Lantizia
[11:08] <bazhang> Lantizia, discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[11:08] <ojii> when using kernel 2.6.32-21 i can boot but it has trouble loading nvidia drivers. if i try to boot kernel 2.6.32-22 i get kernel panic on boot
[11:08] <data> thune3: yes
[11:08] <ojii> what should I do?
[11:08] <thune3> data: home dir, partitions everyting? what?
[11:08] <MrChris> CSiD: using other software to load firmware onto your ipod can void its warranty.
[11:08] <MrChris> Install WINE then run iTunes
[11:08] <Lantizia> bazhang, ortsvorsteher, how is it off topic?  I install ubuntu expecting one thing and I get another (google)... so I'm asking
[11:08] <data> thune3: root partition. so everything except /boot
[11:08] <Lantizia> it's certainly ubuntu relevant
[11:08] <BlackDalek> Why does the send & receive box remain on screen for over 3 minutes after email has completed downloading in evolution mail? Is it just me or does it do that for everyone?
[11:09] <thune3> data: so that's what's happening, the kernel can't see your /
[11:09] <data> i am already downloading the current live cd, so I can debug it
[11:09] <data> thune3: can you think of a reason? It asks me for the passphrase
[11:10] <arunkumar413> how configure wireless modem for a higher baud rate
[11:11] <marcus> Hi there !
[11:11] <alisneaky> good evening pple
[11:11] <erUSUL> ojii: you can have both kernel installed... you should report the panic so it can be fixed ...
[11:11] <erUSUL> !bugs | ojii
[11:11] <rabidweezle> good morning
[11:11] <rocket16> Good afternoon, alisneaky, :) (Here it is afternoon, :D )
[11:11] <arunkumar413> currently my modem is working at baud rate of 9600 but i want to run it at a higher rate?plz tell me how configure it
[11:11] <marcus> Could somebody point me in the right direction for writing a script to control my 3G mobile modem ? I want to write a script that controls the connection.
[11:11] <alisneaky> is there anyway to sync memos and tasks out of evolution into your UBUNTU ONE account?
[11:12] <alisneaky> its 8.12pm tuesday night here
[11:12] <wise_crypt> marcus: have you install wvdial
[11:12] <thune3> data: i don't know, i'm looking at it. something in the process of setting up and mounting your / is borked
[11:12] <marcus> wise_crypt, no I haven't, should I ?
[11:13] <data> thune3: i'll burn the cd now, so that i can at least fix parts of it
[11:13] <wise_crypt> marcus: no if you mobile modem supported by network manager
[11:13] <wise_crypt> *your
[11:14] <marcus> wise_crypt, It's supported, I can see it in the applet, I just want to control it using a bash script.
[11:14] <kriss3d> erUSUL,  Ehmm when i try booting in recovery mode i get garbled graphics. It looks like it could be text but its like 2 inch high and colored and i cant see anything what so ever..
[11:14] <arunkumar413> wise_crypt: hi,can u tell me how to configure modem for a higher baud rate i'm using wvdial program
[11:15] <wise_crypt> marcus: just use the "nm"
[11:15] <wise_crypt> arunkumar413: do you use wvdial ?
[11:15] <BlackDalek> Anyone? Is anyone else experiencing the unexplainably slow "Send & Receive" window in the Evolution 2.28.3 mail client?
[11:16] <arunkumar413> wise_crypt: ya
[11:16] <wise_crypt> arunkumar413: gksudo gedit /etc/wvdial.conf
[11:17] <wise_crypt> arunkumar413: have you generate the wvdial.conf ?
[11:17] <marcus> wise_crypt, as in "nm-tool" ?
[11:17] <arunkumar413> wise_crypt: ya
[11:17] <maxxer> ikonia, in case it's a visually slowness issue, what should I check? the gfx is an nvidia ion vga, with nvidia drivers installed
[11:17] <wise_crypt> arunkumar413: than gksudo gedit /etc/wvdial.conf
[11:17] <pog> BlackDalek: when I recieve a mails for a few mail boxes I wait for hours (..no but minutes). I didn't find out why, and why evolution does the jobs parallely. It seems to be blocked until alle the boxes are o.k.
[11:18] <ikonia> maxxer: how did you install the nvidia drivers ?
[11:18] <wise_crypt> arunkumar413: than gksudo gedit /path/to/your/generated/wvdial.conf
[11:18] <arunkumar413> wise_crypt: opened the file wvdial.conf
[11:18] <BlackDalek> There is a 3 or 4 minute delay after the mail is downloaded. The actual mail downloading/sending takes only a few seconds.... But the window remains on screen and I have to click cancel all to get of it or wait 3-4 minutes for it to clear itself off the screen
[11:18] <wise_crypt> arunkumar413: find 9600 and change it to your desire save it
[11:19] <Mrokii__> I have tried to sign up to Ubuntu One and Firefox tried to open a "http://localhost"-link, which doesn't seem to work. Could the reason be a changed "host"-file?
[11:20] <wise_crypt> arunkumar413: if you haven kill the running prosess of wvdial run sudo killall wvdial
[11:20] <wise_crypt> arunkumar413: then run wvdial << sudo wvdial & >>>
[11:20] <maxxer> ikonia, via hardware drivers tool
[11:20] <arunkumar413> ok
[11:21] <ikonia> maxxer: Hmmm, I'd run some graphic benchmark tools (details on the wiki)
[11:21] <ikonia> maxxer: see how they perform
[11:21] <BlackDalek> I know the mail is downloaded in just a few seconds because the "Send & Receive" window says "completed" and the progress bars are at 100% full and I can see and read the downloaded email on screen behind the "Send & Receive" window. Is this a normal feature of Evolution mail? Does it do this for everyone or is my installation wonky?
[11:21] <maxxer> ikonia, in the end, there's no particular optimization for atom, that you know?
[11:22] <azlon> i just installed 10.04 yesterday and everything is working great except my networking. i cant see any other machines in nautilus...
[11:22] <chilicuil> hi, does anyone know if it's safe to resize ext4 partitions in ubuntu 10.04?, I've seen that there was a bug about it in the 9.04 version
[11:22] <Kage> !intel
[11:22] <maxxer> ikonia, the fact that on chrome is faster than firefox, makes me still think about the cpu
[11:22] <wise_crypt> marcus: network manager abv nm
[11:22] <arunkumar413> wise_crypt: how to know if the modem operating at a particular baud rate
[11:24] <wise_crypt> arunkumar413: its shown on your teminal
[11:24] <X-Sleepy-X> I have this laptop with wireless connection and I've installed LAMP on it. Now I would like for web server to be able to get online through the wireless without me having to login. Is this possible if I select "Available for all users" in the settings for the wireless network in the network manager?
[11:24] <X-Sleepy-X> Or is there another way?
[11:24] <wise_crypt> *terminal
[11:24] <arunkumar413> wise_crypt: no its not showing
[11:25] <wise_crypt> arunkumar413: sudo killall wvdial && sudo wvdial
[11:26] <wise_crypt> arunkumar413: without &
[11:26] <arunkumar413> wise_crypt: if i kill i'll not be able to discuss
[11:27] <wise_crypt> arunkumar413: lol you have to try it if you want it change the baud rate
[11:27] <Kage> what should I set my xorg.conf to get the best performance on a Intel 945GM
[11:27] <Kage> ?
[11:27] <arunkumar413> k
[11:27] <Kage> should I use UXA?
[11:28] <sxpp> ..
[11:28] <marcus> wise_crypt, yes, but I want to write a bash script, not use the applet.
[11:30] <ro8inmorgan> bash 'o script
[11:30] <Kage> you know what I hate most about the ubuntu forums, website and wiki... is the fact that it seems 95% of any information on a problem I have dates back to like 5 releases ago... and I have no idea if the information is still applicable
[11:30] <ro8inmorgan> anyone here got a client working on exchange 2010?
[11:31] <ro8inmorgan> not with imap offcourse
[11:32] <marcus> Ok, so let me ask everybody again. Is it possible to write a script to control my 3G modem ?
[11:32] <thune3> data: there is a bunch of info in : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1034910 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7576717 : the gist is get /etc/crypttab correct and run "update-initramfs -k all -c -v"
[11:32] <ro8inmorgan> marcus if your modem has some command line software yes
[11:32] <mechdave> marcus, should be... what kind of modem is it?
[11:32] <ro8inmorgan> otherwise you will have to write that yourself
[11:32] <thune3> data: but that might not be your issue
[11:33] <data> thune3: thanks, i will try that
[11:33] <marcus> It's a 3G modem (Huwei e1730) that is showing up in networkmanager applet.
[11:34] <ro8inmorgan> marcus you can only write control scripts for stuff that can be controlled from the command line
[11:34] <wise_crypt> marcus: why do you want to do that ?
[11:34] <ro8inmorgan> if your modem can be controlled from command line then yes you can script it
[11:34] <marcus> wise_crypt, I'm writing an auto-connect script, that needs to do some stuff inbetween.
[11:35] <wise_crypt> marcus: what is the usage of the script ?
[11:35] <ro8inmorgan> wise_crypt why is that relevant?
[11:35] <wise_crypt> marcus: what stuff
[11:36] <ro8inmorgan> marcus do you know how to make shell scripts even??
[11:36] <wise_crypt> !info cron | ro8inmorgan
[11:36] <thune3> data: and just in case the crypt-decode worked already, look over your fstab for good measure. good luck, gotta run.
[11:37] <marcus> wise_crypt, The entire scenario is this: On session start, I want the 3g modem to connect, and then run chrome to a specified url. The script should connect the 3g modem again, if there is a break in coverage, when possible.
[11:37] <Alexander1> do you know QQ
[11:37] <marcus> ro8inmorgan, yes I do.
[11:37] <ro8inmorgan> Marcus then why do you want chrome to a specified url??
[11:37] <ro8inmorgan> what are you trying to do?
[11:38] <Alexander1> who used qq for linux
[11:38] <wise_crypt> is ro8inmorgan and marcus the same person
[11:38] <marcus> ro8inmorgan, Does it matter ? I want the computer to connect and open chrome to let's say "google" and then ensure that the 3g reconnects on failure.
[11:38] <ro8inmorgan> lol
[11:39] <ro8inmorgan> Marcus well it seems to be a little unlogical to open a graphical browser from a script
[11:39] <alabd> Good day all  , ikonia http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu here is written >>> Developers can work on their desktop of choice, and smoothly deliver code to cloud servers running the stripped-down Ubuntu Server Edition.
[11:39] <ro8inmorgan> wise_crupt why would we be the same person?
[11:39] <marcus> ro8inmorgan, Ok, but that doesn't matter does it. My question is if it's possible to control the 3g modem from the command line.
[11:40] <alabd> so to have cloud computing with ubuntu it should be server edition ikonia
[11:40] <wise_crypt> !info Kcron marcus ro8inmorgan
[11:40] <wise_crypt> !info Kcron | marcus ro8inmorgan
[11:40] <mechdave> wise_crypt, they have different ip addresses
[11:40] <Shai234> Hello , it seems my free space gone (i dont know how) and now i cant log in to Ubuntu , how can i get access in order to free up some space ? any idea ?
[11:40] <eirikb> Is it possible to use ubuntu one for storing configuration, so I don't have to setup each computer? (mostly for shortcuts, compiz settings, ssh keys, firefox/chrome stored passwords etc)
[11:41] <ro8inmorgan> marcus well if your modem came with linux drivers it should tell you also what command lines...
[11:41] <eirikb> Shai234: Livecd?
[11:41] <marcus> ro8inmorgan, forget it, thanks for your time.
[11:41] <mechdave> Shai234, you can boot into rescue mode from grub2
[11:41] <Shai234> eirikb: i dont have right now livecd
[11:41] <Galerien> re
[11:41] <wise_crypt> !info gnome-schedule | marcus
[11:41] <Shai234> mechdave: how can i get into rescue mode ?
[11:42] <ro8inmorgan> ok :)
[11:42] <ro8inmorgan> !info gnome-schedule | marcus
[11:42] <marcus> wise_crypt, thanks.
[11:42] <ro8inmorgan> wise_crypt why you wrote this?
[11:42] <mechdave> Shai234, reboot and select rescue mode from the boot menu
[11:42] <ash__> hi
[11:42] <Alexander1> hello
[11:42] <mechdave> Shai234, then use df -h to find which partition has no free space left
[11:42] <ash__> I have a problem with audio, using 10.04 32-bit.. the audio for everything is very muffled
[11:43] <mechdave> Shai234, eg df -h /home
[11:43] <wise_crypt> ro8inmorgan: you can analyze in what duration your 3g modem disconect and reconect it again using cron at that specisic time
[11:44] <ro8inmorgan> i dont have a 3g modem
[11:44] <ash__> where do i begin to find out why? I've never had this problem before
[11:44] <wise_crypt> ro8inmorgan: and run another cron job after that for chrome
[11:44] <wise_crypt> ro8inmorgan: that simple
[11:44] <Shai234> mechdave: great now i have shell access :) the problem before few days i had alot more than 6gb free space , and showhow now there is no space left , how can i find out which files stolen my space ?
[11:45] <wise_crypt> ro8inmorgan: you ought to let me know from the first place lol my bad
[11:45] <ro8inmorgan> wise_crypt: its ok in case I get one i got your tip lol
[11:45] <wise_crypt> ro8inmorgan: lol
[11:47] <azlon> i cant see other computers in Networks from my 10.04 machine. everything is working on my 9.10 machine... how can i view other machines?
[11:47] <ZachK_> azlon: one sec
[11:47] <ZachK_> azlon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[11:47] <ZachK_> that might work
[11:48] <azlon> ZachK_, thanks, i already installed Samba but ill read the page really quick...
[11:48] <mechdave> Shai234, my guess is it will be in your home directory, use du -h /home > file_size_list.txt to find the file size of each file and redirect it to file
[11:50] <mechdave> Shai234, then use grep to search the filenames larger than say 500M
[11:50] <nitesh> hi
[11:50] <rey> nitesh: hello
[11:51] <nitesh> is anybady thr
[11:51] <doolph> hi
[11:51] <rey> Nitesh: can you receive our message?
[11:51] <wildbat_laptop> mechdave,  Shai234, du -h /home |sort -n | tail
[11:51] <nitesh> yap
[11:51] <bluesman> hei
[11:51] <rey> ok
[11:52] <mechdave> wildbat_laptop, Thanks :) Scripting is not my strong point :)
[11:52] <ikonia> azlon: what ?
[11:52] <alabd> ikonia:  what was you'r opinion  ?
[11:52] <ikonia> on what ?
[11:52] <rey> I am gonnna make backup of 10.04 ubuntu on a DVD, is there anything I should keep in mind?
[11:53] <azlon> ZachK_, oh crap... i'm an idiot... i have 2 machines named server... i think that is why i cant access the other machine's shared drive. how can i change a machine's name?
[11:53] <wildbat_laptop> mechdave, neither do i ~ just sharing the info ~ we have bigger brain with this channel ;p
[11:53] <bluesman> some question about Evolution. Ubuntu 10.04. After some miutes Evolution shutting down with argument "broken pipe" oder "shutting down" .... whats happend?
[11:53] <ZachK_> azlon: ah they windows machines/
[11:53] <siddhion> hello.
[11:53] <ZachK_> hello siddhion
[11:53] <siddhion> hi ZachK
[11:53] <koshie> hi
[11:53] <rumpsy> siddhion: hi
[11:53] <mechdave> wildbat_laptop, true true :)
[11:53] <azlon> ZachK_, no, i just want to change my 9.10 machine name
[11:53] <siddhion> hi Koshie & rumpsy
[11:54] <rumpsy> siddhion: how can we help you
[11:54] <ZachK_> azlon: Ah i don't know...give me a sec and i'll see what i can finde
[11:54] <Callum__> finally installed Ubuntu 10.04 on my main machine...
[11:54] <koshie> the hostname azlon ?
[11:54] <Kartagis> !maverick
[11:54] <bastidrazor> !hostname | azlon
[11:54] <azlon> ZachK_, dont worry about it... i will just access the old one by IP for now. im just going to transfer files then get rid of it
[11:54] <alabd> ikonia http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu here is written >>> Developers can work on their desktop of choice, and smoothly deliver code to cloud servers running the stripped-down Ubuntu Server Edition.so to have cloud computing with ubuntu it should be server edition yes ?
[11:55] <ZachK_> azlon: ok...sorry i couldn't help ya!
[11:55] <siddhion> nice of you to ask rumpsy : ) i just installed Xubuntu 10.04 and everything is working out pretty fine except that Firefox and Chrome load web pages extermely slowly to the point of it being unusable.
[11:56] <mechdave> azlon, you want to change your Ubuntu machine hostname?
[11:56] <bluesman> I reply my Question: Evolution. Ubuntu 10.04. After some minutes Evolution shutting down with argument "broken pipe" oder "shutting down" .... whats happend? I never got in 9.x up this failure
[11:57] <mechdave> azlon, have a look at man hostname
[11:57] <azlon> mechdave, nah... i will just access by IP for now. i just need to access the machine for a day then im going to format it
[11:57] <azlon> mechdave, thanks!
[11:57] <siddhion> i executed everything in this tutorial http://wojox.homelinux.org/?p=46 but still i can not even load twitter
[11:57] <mechdave> azlon, yeah, if you can remember the ip :) No worries
[11:57] <ikonia> alabd: it doesn't matter
[11:57] <ikonia> alabd: as I told you yesterday
[11:58] <badcloud> removing top gnome panel while keeping some functionality (e.g. alltray support)?
[11:59] <azlon> mechdave, i think i was talking to you a couple months about about RAID5 stuff, right? did you get your issue resolved?
[11:59] <siddhion> google loads fast and fine...searches are fast...but loading the sites like blogs, or any web app takes forever. i do not think that tutorial helped at all.
[12:00] <bluesman> I reply my Question: Evolution. Ubuntu 10.04. After some minutes Evolution shutting down with argument "broken pipe" oder "shutting down" .... whats happend? I never get bevore this failure
[12:01] <Gryllida> I disabled ClearType in the OS but it still remains in Firefox. How do I turn it off?
[12:01] <User01> hey got a question
[12:01] <siddhion> it is strange. some sites load fine. others will not load at all. does anyone know how to solve this problem?
[12:01] <Lazesharp> hi guys, I've just upgraded a 9.10 machine to 10.04 and I need to add a PPA, but the add-apt-repository command appears to be missing?
[12:01] <Lazesharp> as does locate/updatedb :\
[12:02] <jrib> Lazesharp: that is not normal
[12:02] <mechdave> azlon, Nah, I have never worried about RAID, don't have enough realestate for that :)
[12:02] <jrib> Lazesharp: what does « echo $PATH » return?
[12:02] <Lazesharp> when I say "missing" I mean it's not on the PATH at least
[12:02] <Lazesharp> /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
[12:02] <Gryllida> Lazesharp: "man add-apt-repository" works for me, I'm 10.04
[12:02] <Lazesharp> doesn't look to be anything out of the ordinary there
[12:02] <User01> okay I want to install linux on a desktop and run it on my laptop
[12:02] <mechdave> azlon, I have been about for quite a while here and there from time to time :)
[12:02] <azlon> mechdave, newegg has 2TB drives for only $99... i couldn't pass it up. stupid marketing...
[12:03] <User01> is this possible without doi special configuration
[12:03] <rumpsy> siddhion: Are you sure about your firefox version?
[12:03] <Gryllida> User01: that are 2 installations.
[12:03] <bluesman> OK, U can not help. Anywhere I can find some help about evolution and this "closing after some minutes"?
[12:03] <rumpsy> siddhion: what version of ff you are using
[12:03] <amokpaule> hello, can i move the buttons for closing minimizing or maximizing a window from the left to the right?
[12:03] <rumpsy> Gryllida: hi hi, this is kingring
[12:03] <Gryllida> rumpsy: hi!
[12:03] <jrib> Lazesharp: well, what does « apt-cache policy mlocate » return?
[12:03] <User01> no just one install I can install on my laptop due to heating issues
[12:03] <siddhion> rumpsy: 3.6.3
[12:03] <User01> cant*
[12:03] <rumpsy> Gryllida: guide siddhion
[12:03] <X-Sleepy-X> I have this laptop with wireless connection and I've installed LAMP on it. Now I would like for web server to be able to get online through the wireless without me having to login. Is this possible if I select "Available for all users" in the settings for the wireless network in the network manager?
[12:04] <siddhion> rumpsy: i am getting these slow page load problems with Chrome as well
[12:04] <rumpsy> siddhion: Gryllida and me are good in firefox troubleshoot, since i'm bit busy you can ask him
[12:04] <Gryllida> siddhion: /join #firefox
[12:04] <Gryllida> siddhion: way too busy here
[12:04] <siddhion> ok thanks. rumpsy
[12:04] <rumpsy> Gryllida: this is freenode
[12:04] <Gryllida> rumpsy: yes it is.
[12:04] <Lazesharp> jrib: mlocate wasn't installed :\ odd
[12:05] <jrib> Lazesharp: how did you upgrade exactly?
[12:05] <bluesman> amokpaule: U can, moment please
[12:05] <siddhion> gryllida: my issue is not just with Firefox, as I said it is also with Chrome.
[12:05] <rumpsy> Gryllida: nope, you make him clear here itself, this way helps everyone
[12:05] <Lazesharp> jrib: it's Ubuntu server, so using do-release-upgrade as per standard release instructions
[12:05] <amokpaule> bluesman, ty and sure :)
[12:05] <siddhion> gryllida: that is why i came here.
[12:06] <Gryllida> siddhion: which are the websites that don't load?
[12:06] <User01> so I want to install linux on a desktop and run it on my lappy anyone know if it will auto detect my laptop hardware
[12:06] <jrib> Lazesharp: did the upgrade complete successfully?  Did it ever tell you these packages would be removed?  Did you have mlocate before the upgrade?
[12:06] <entr0py> Is someone here familiar with upstart?
[12:06] <jrib> entr0py: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[12:07] <Lazesharp> jrib: not sure we had it before the upgrade, so it could be entirely normal
[12:07] <jrib> Lazesharp: do you have ubuntu-standard installed?
[12:07] <Lazesharp> but we did have some problems with the upgrade, after the reboot it took a while for the server to respond
[12:07] <Lazesharp> we may not
[12:07] <jrib> Lazesharp: check :)
[12:07] <ct529> are there nice tools for recording a database of meetings ?
[12:07] <Lazesharp> O_O
[12:07] <Lazesharp> State: not installed
[12:08] <alabd> ikonia: so what is this ? o cloud servers running the stripped-down Ubuntu Server Edition.
[12:08] <siddhion> gryllida: Twitter, Flickr, Facebook, Engadget....all the popular ones will not load....more unpopular ones will load and when they do load up I will see the spinner still spinning...something is wrong here
[12:08] <jrib> Lazesharp: why remove that?
[12:08] <Lazesharp> jrib: that never got removed
[12:08] <Lazesharp> I saw which packages it removed, and they were nothing consequential :\
[12:08] <ikonia> alabd: it means a cloud server running on the ubuntu server platform
[12:08] <bluesman> amokpaule: open gconf-editor with tree "apps" in Metacity and change value under general to ":minimize,maximaze,close" ... the ":" isz U want ;)
[12:09] <rabidweezle> don't do it, it is a trap
[12:09] <alabd> ikonia:  so cloud server can be only on ubuntu server ?
[12:09] <jrib> Lazesharp: presumably, this package is included by default on servers
[12:09] <rabidweezle> wrong window *facepalm*
[12:09] <jrib> Lazesharp: I'm not sure about that though
[12:09] <ikonia> alabd: NO
[12:10] <ikonia> alabd: the ubuntu cloud servers are run on server edition, that doesn't mean it only works on server edition
[12:10] <tyrus> afternoon folks
[12:10] <User01> soo can someone confirm if that is possible
[12:10] <Lazesharp> jrib: ubuntu-minimal isn't installed either, will I need that?
[12:10] <tyrus> now i have a very annoying issue on 10.04
[12:10] <tyrus> apparently i cant close the gnome file browser
[12:10] <rumpsy> tyrus: what is your issue
[12:10] <Gryllida> siddhion: no idea why rumpsy thinks that I can help with issues that are not firefox isssues but look more like networking ones.. I'd reboot modem, and reboot router, then try from another machine at same internet access point.
[12:11] <tyrus> everytime I do i get this pop up that says "Cannot fine /media/A126asd"
[12:11] <wildbat_laptop> User01, it should works
[12:11] <tyrus> yet under /etc/fstab no such device exists
[12:11] <tyrus> :(
[12:11] <bluesman> rabidweezle: U mean me?
[12:11] <rumpsy> Gryllida: Sorry i he mentioned me that ff bought the problem
[12:11] <jrib> Lazesharp: apparently ubuntu-standard isn't installed by default, so maybe locate isn't either.  And I'm willing to bet add-apt-repository definitely isn't.  So everything seems normal.  If you want to check about the status of those packages on a fresh server install, you could verify this.  If those are the only things missing, I would just install them now if you want them.  If you want what
[12:12] <jrib> ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-standard say they do, then sure, install them
[12:12] <Gryllida> rumpsy: this is both Fx and GChrome issue.
[12:12] <siddhion> gryllida: rumpsy only saw Firefox in my initial problem. I have another computer here that is connected to the same router and it runs perfect.
[12:12] <tyrus> so rumpsy, any idea why this is happening?
[12:12] <shay27> Hello , its seems my drive has no space left , my partition is 60gb when i checked my /home/user folder it turn out to be : 12gb , where did all my free space go ? i found in some website that someone said that should check the log folder by typing : sudo du -h /var , i did that and i got 44gb (this taking my space) what i should do ? which files i am allowed to erase ?
[12:12] <Gryllida> siddhion: aww, maybe router/modem cache, reboot them, but I'm VERY BAD at networking
[12:12] <rumpsy> tyrus: maybe bad video driver
[12:12] <Lazesharp> jrib: ok, cool - don't suppose you know which package provides add-apt-repository?
[12:12] <tyrus> really?
[12:12] <rabidweezle> bluesman, no
[12:12] <User01> wildbat_laptop: okay so linux really can auto detect hardware on boot
[12:12] <rumpsy> tyrus: disable compiz effects and give a try
[12:12] <tyrus> well thats interesting because here is another issue
[12:12] <jrib> Lazesharp: python-software-properties:
[12:13] <wildbat_laptop> User01, yes
[12:13] <siddhion> gryllida: ok i understand. thanks.
[12:13] <tyrus> whenever i restart the machine
	wildbat_laptop: okay so linux really can auto detect hardware on boot <-- I think true
[12:13] <Lazesharp> jrib: intuitive ;)
[12:13] <User01> even if it's different than what the os was installed on (unlike windows)
[12:13] <Gryllida> siddhion: ok
[12:13] <tyrus> i get windows without borders and its just annoying
[12:13] <vega> shay27: put output of this into pastebin.com: cd /var ; du -s --si *
[12:13] <rumpsy> Gryllida: siddhion understood now, he got your point
[12:14] <User01> gryllida: how long have you been using
[12:14] <tyrus> isnt there a way to fix this without disabling compiz?
[12:14] <rumpsy> tyrus: if you are using compiz, try this command in terminal, "compiz --replace metacity"
[12:14] <alabd> ikonia: or he ubuntu cloud servers are run only on server edition
[12:14] <ojii> hi everyone, i'm using lucid x64 and since the last kernel upgrade (2.6.32-22) i get a kernel panic when trying to boot. if i boot using the last kernel (2.6.32-21) it works but the nvidia drivers fail, what can I do?
[12:14] <Gryllida> User01: using what?
[12:14] <bluesman> rabidweezle: I was wondering about trap... coming soon after my help to amokpaule ;) I know that it is OK ;)
[12:14] <tyrus> if i do that, i get the borderless windows
[12:14] <ikonia> alabd: they can run on any ubuntu product
[12:14] <Lantizia> Hey I've got 10.04... there used to be a button on nautilus for swapping between address bar and button bar... where did it go!
[12:14] <User01> gryllida: linux
[12:14] <User01> :)
[12:14] <wildbat_laptop> tyrus, ppl install on USB drives and bring the "machine" with then with ubuntu
[12:14] <Gryllida> User01: less than 2 days
[12:14] <amokpaule> bluesman, ty :)
[12:14] <tyrus> and i have to run compiz --replace to get them back rumpsy
[12:15] <User01> oh hehehe
[12:15] <Gryllida> User01: after 10 years on windows 2000
[12:15] <alabd> ikonia: thanks God give you peace
[12:15] <wildbat_laptop> User01,  ppl install on USB drives and bring the "machine" with then with ubuntu
[12:15] <User01> gryllida wow , :)
[12:15] <wildbat_laptop> tyrus, sorry wrong ppl
[12:15] <Gryllida> :P
[12:15] <rumpsy> tyrus: which means that your graphics drivers not binding with compiz
[12:16] <tyrus> rumpsy: looks like it....there was a bug filed on launchpad
[12:16] <rumpsy> !compiz
[12:16] <User01> wildbat_laptop: so basicly the os is plug and play
[12:16] <bluesman> amokpaule: czech, np ;)
[12:16] <tyrus> but seeing there are no proprietary drivers this time am really wondering why this came with 10.04
  basicly the os is plug and play TRUE :P
[12:16] <rumpsy> tyrus: join compiz channel for further more help
[12:16] <tyrus> ok rumpsy thanks alot
[12:16] <User01> gryllida: what do you think of ubuntu`
[12:16] <rabidweezle> User01, it's the same as booting a live cd with the option to actually save work
[12:16] <wildbat_laptop> User01, ya ~ thou so machine need some tweak be4 it work but majority of machine just work
[12:17] <rumpsy> tyrus: welcome
[12:17] <Gryllida> User01: more than perfect, very customizable. 300MB or RAM instead of 1200MB. smooth.. easy to understand:)
[12:17] <tyrus> rumpsy whats the channel again?
[12:17] <User01> wildbat_laptop : okay thanks that will do
[12:18] <rumpsy> #compiz
[12:18] <rumpsy> tyrus: ^^
[12:18] <tyrus> thanks :)
[12:18] <rumpsy> :)
[12:18] <User01> gryllida: :P yeah it runs faster than any os I've had
[12:18] <Gryllida> :P
[12:19] <shay27> vega:http://pastebin.com/HTZZiAq6
[12:19] <bluesman> rabidweezle: did U hear something about evolution ... is ending after some minutes whithot a correct message .... broken pipe, ending session but nothing more ... ubuntu 10.04 full installation with seperate /home
[12:19] <User01> and also for dire situations like mine, my laptop would have to go to the junkyard if not for it
[12:19] <ntr0py> how can i delay the start of gdm?
[12:19] <rabidweezle> bluesman, I use gmail
[12:21] <ntr0py> I need gdm to start AFTER the nvidia driver is ready... How can i manipulate upstart to do that?? Anyone has an idea?
[12:21] <ikonia> ntr0py: the nvidia drivers are loaded before xorg
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> ntr0py:  the gdm.conf has some delay option. I used that to fix an issue with nvida drivers taking too load to startup and confusing gdm
[12:22] <ikonia> ntr0py: so you're already fine with that
[12:22] <CSiD> anyone know how ipod touch 3rd gens can be made visible in rhythmbox from a minimal install
[12:22] <CSiD> ?
[12:22] <bluesman> rabidweezle: I use to help Windowsuser to change (I love it) but Evolution sucks now and its more easy for them... I prefer also Thunderbird with Lightning. But for thar people I need Evo. If U find anything U can contact me in IRCnet an my nick is blues (since over 10 years)
[12:22] <Gryllida> bluesman: Evolution is included into Ubuntu 10.04 by default.
[12:22] <amokpaule> i want to just have one background colour so no picture or so, i cant really find any option to disable the wallpapers itself.
[12:23] <CSiD> why not create an image thats jsut the colour and use it? can be doen fro mgimp usign fill tool
[12:23] <trez__> hello, there are some files which use 2.6 gb on my home that I can't delete (even if I am using a live cd). These files are in the folder .Trash-0/files/lost+found/. Their permission and their user are weird, it is numbers like "-314399448". How to delete them?
[12:23] <ntr0py> ikonia: but they are not loaded before gdm trieds to display the login prompt causing the nvidia drivers to not load...
[12:23] <bluesman> Gryllida: oh yes, but it is ending... after 10 minutes it closesed by himself in 10.04
[12:24] <amokpaule> is there no option to just trun off the background image?
[12:24] <jrib> amokpaule: what background image?
[12:24] <ikonia> ntr0py: they should be one of the first things to happen in a boot sequence
[12:24] <amokpaule> the desktop background
[12:24] <Gryllida> bluesman: Applications > Software Center , remove it and install again.
[12:25] <jrib> amokpaule: there probably isn't one in the gui.  You probably have to create a solid colored background to do that
[12:25] <bluesman> Gryllida: no, some other users have same Problem. Reinstall is no wax to fix it an /var/log/*** no reason
[12:26] <azlon> i want to connect 2 machines together to take advantage of their gigabit NICs since my switch is only 10/100. if i make a crossover cable and plug it in to each machine, will they just recognize each other and i can start transferring files?
[12:26] <amokpaule> so what CSid suggested to create a image myself with the colour i want?
[12:26] <CSiD> yes
[12:26] <CSiD> just use gimp and fill the entire page with the colour using the "fill-tool"
[12:26] <wildbat_laptop> azlon, you need to setup a manual ip connection
[12:27] <Gryllida> bluesman: either reinstall, or it should work fine with new user on the OS
[12:27] <amokpaule> ok ty, but i think i got what i wanted.
[12:27] <bluesman> ok, no help here .... thanks for listening
[12:27] <azlon> wildbat_laptop, ok, so give each machine a static IP, then i can start transferring files?
[12:27] <Lazydude> does anyone know why my wireless internet is capped at 11mbs
[12:27] <linduxed> i need to install unison on my laptop, but i specifically need the 2.27.57-1 version
[12:27] <bluesman> amokpaule: is running?
[12:27] <wildbat_laptop> azlon, kinda ~ with ssh or ftp or nfs etc...
[12:28] <Lazydude> i have a usb AWLL3028,  it should do 54mbs
[12:28] <azlon> wildbat_laptop, awesome, thanks
[12:28] <ntr0py> ikonia: i always end up in low graphics mode bacause nvidia drivers do not load properly before gdm tries to display the login prompt (there is some flickering and then i get the low graphics mode message) sometimes (very rare) it succeeds to display the login (e.g. when fsck delays gdm) and it always succeeds after restarting gdm. I suspect there to be a race between nvidia and gdm in upstart...
[12:28]  * azlon gets his crimpers
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> azlon:  from what ive heard with a GB <->GB connectiopn you dont need a crossover cable - Gb networking is 'supposed' to auto-detect and  crossover as needed
[12:28] <amokpaule> bluesman, yes there is abackground in one colour and over solid colur i chaged it to the colour i wanted
[12:28] <linduxed> the one in lucid is too new
[12:28] <CSiD> btw, if you want I know a forum thats pretty new, and the owner says he will leave me in charge in a few days, I can make any Ubuntu sections you want on it http://forum.xtremehacking.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=32    just want to contribute, like you could have a "solved problems" section so helping one person is helping a hundred?
[12:28] <jrib> linduxed: why?
[12:29] <amokpaule> bluesman, if its that what you wanted to know :)
[12:29] <linduxed> jrib: because unison is built in a way that each release is incompatible with any other release (or so it seems) so i need to install the lowest common release for all my computers
[12:29] <linduxed> jrib: one of them is a lenny box
[12:30] <bluesman> jrib: about amokpaule:  open gconf-editor with tree "apps" in Metacity and change value under general to ":minimize,maximaze,close" ... the ":" isz U want ;)
[12:30] <linduxed> jrib: so you have to jump a long way back to have it align
[12:31] <jrib> linduxed: I ask because that number after the - is specific to debian/ubuntu packaging.  So the version is 2.27.57.  However the package does have 3 patches.  You should see if those matter.  (They probably fix things, so it makes more sense to add them to your other unison)
[12:31] <amokpaule> bluesman, i did it over the terminal but it works so yes :)
[12:32] <corin_> how can i change a directory so that all future files created within it get a certain group ownership?
[12:32] <bluesman> amokpaule: to change from left (like Apple) to right I tell U. U have to start the apps now
[12:32] <jrib> linduxed: and I just looked at all the patches and they just seem to be typo fixes in documentation, nothing in the code
[12:33] <_picAssO_> i have a problem editing a tex-template: downloaded it and wanted to edit it with kile; but i can't change anything; even root can't write to file; my user owns the file and is allowed to read and write;
[12:33] <evilsherpa> hey all, i created a mount point via sudo mkdir /media/ipod
[12:33] <evilsherpa> how do i remove that mount point?
[12:33] <amokpaule> bluesman, everthing is working and looking now as i want it. :)
[12:33] <evilsherpa> whats the remove command
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> evilsherpa:  if its empty 'rmdir'
[12:34] <rumpsy> evilsherpa: what you want to remove
[12:34] <helpme111222> hey cud anyone help me out dual booting ubuntu  + win  7
[12:34] <helpme111222> need to PM n ask
[12:34] <Galerien> !dualboot
[12:34] <bluesman> evilsherpa gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/panel
[12:34] <evilsherpa> Dr_Willis, thanks, rumpsy ia mount point i made
[12:34] <linduxed> jrib: sounds good
[12:34] <amokpaule> bluesman, jrib sorry if i mixed up stuff here in who helpd me when chat is running down too fast^^
[12:34] <jrib> linduxed: cool :)
[12:34] <helpme111222> ubottu: bt got sme weird issue here
[12:34] <helpme111222> :P
[12:34] <SmokeyD> hey people. is security.ubuntu.com down? I can't access it from NL
[12:34] <evilsherpa> Dr_willis thanks
[12:34] <bluesman> evilsherpa: pkill gnome-panel
[12:34] <linduxed> jrib: so how would i go about installing this old version on ubuntu?
[12:34] <ntr0py> Dr_Willis: Do you know what this could indicate: "NVIDIA: could not open the device file /dev/nvidiactl (No such device or address)." ??
[12:35] <linduxed> jrib: getdeb?
[12:35] <jrib> linduxed: what old version?
[12:35] <easy-guy> I am ruining web server at 127.0.0.1 but i want to configure it with my ip so that world wide can brows. How can i do that please?
[12:35] <Galerien> helpme111222: ready the instructions ubottu gave you and if you don't understand something, /query me, but it better be good
[12:35] <evilsherpa> Dr_Willis, sudo rmdir /media/ipod
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> ntr0py:  never seen/heard of that error befor.
[12:35] <SmokeyD> nevermind, it was a local network thing I think
[12:35] <rumpsy> helpme111222: ubbotu is a bot
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> evilsherpa:  unmount the device first. of course. :)
[12:35] <bluesman> amokpaule: np, its OK for me... I know how to scroll or filter ;)
[12:35] <ntr0py> Dr_Willis: its in my gdm logs for that failed login prompts
[12:36] <corin_> how can i change a directory so that all future files created within it get a certain group ownership? (same as using chgrp on them)
[12:36] <rumpsy> !rss
[12:36] <siddhion> anyone here good at networking in Xubuntu?
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> ntr0py:  as a test. try making a new user. see if they can login.
[12:36] <easy-guy> I am ruining web server at 127.0.0.1 but i want to configure it with my ip so that world wide can brows. How can i do that please?
[12:36] <helpme111222> Galerien: i m stuck here.. i know how 2 dual boot wth windows .. bt here the issue is was cleaning up my 160gigs compeltey for a fresh dual boot.. bt m nt able to delete a partition says too many partitions. i guess its nt allowing me to delete a dynamic partition
[12:36] <bluesman> evilsherpa gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/panel | pkill gnome-panel
[12:36] <linduxed> jrib: oh wait... ive got a PPA version, that's why i had a newer one :-P
[12:36] <helpme111222> Galerien: can i PM u?
[12:37] <jrib> linduxed: yeah, latest unison in ubuntu universe is 2.27.57-2ubuntu2 .  Note I just saw one patch that moves the log file, but that probably doesn't matter?
[12:37] <corin_> easy-guy, ask in #httpd if using apache, or whatever channel for other webservers
[12:37] <helpme111222> Galerien: coz all the guides i know n read, tel me to first install win7 thn install ubuntu, so for tht sake i need 2 have win7 ... bt the win7 disc doesnt allow me to delete dynamic drives..
[12:37] <helpme111222> rumpsy: ya understod whn i tried to call it :P
[12:37] <Galerien> helpme111222: see my private message
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> easy-guy:  hmm.. by default i can get to this m achines web server on http://localhost and http://themachines.ipadress   if i want to let the internet people access it. I need to set up my router to  forward  the http port to tjhis box.
[12:38] <linduxed> jrib: not really no
[12:38] <ntr0py> Dr_Willis: the error occurs before the login prompt gets displayed...
[12:38] <jrib> linduxed: should be fine to use with a presteen 2.27.57 then
[12:39] <DrManhattan> anyone here familiar with ventrilo server?
[12:39] <tyrus_> rumpsy: thanks alot for your time
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> ntr0py:  interesting. I would have to suggest checking the ubuntu and nvidia forums.
[12:39] <jrib> erm, *pristine*, knew that looked funny
[12:39] <tyrus_> i got a work around to it
[12:39] <iKb> easy-guy: change the apache bind adress
[12:39] <rumpsy> tyrus_: np
[12:41] <linduxed> jrib: yeah i think so
[12:42] <imisdal> can i set a users permissons so that he is not able to browse any files outside his home dir? how?
[12:42] <dz> ni meng hao a
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> imisdal:  proberly not very easially.. of course the way linux is.. even if he looks around. he shouldent be able to affect anything
[12:43] <corin_> how can i change a directory so that all future files created within it get a certain group ownership? (same as using chgrp on them)
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> imisdal:  if you want to do a total lockdown of the file maanger and other gnome settings. theres some you can lock down. but ive never looked into it
[12:44] <ntr0py> Dr_Willis: Maybe i can replace the gdm binary with a script that delays the start of gdm??
[12:44] <corin_> imisdal, google for "chroot" or "unix jail" tutorials
[12:44] <Guest6885> 我的系统文件修改不了，是怎么回事，
[12:44] <conb123> Decent video editors for linux are hard to come by. All I am trying to do is join two video files together and export it, I just tried pitivi and the file came out bigger than I expected, the aspect ratio was off and the audio was out of sync, it can't be that hard can it?
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> ntr0py:   the gdm config files have a 'delay' option you have tried?
[12:44] <imisdal> corin_: Dr_Willis, okey thank you
[12:44] <nighter> corin_: set suidflag or sgid on folder
[12:44] <Guest6885> 有没有讲中文的
[12:45] <ntr0py> Dr_Willis: I tried the config file you gave me yesterday...
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> ntr0py:  heres mine ->  Note that i ahve 2 different gdm custom.conf files that i set this in. One is in /etc/gdm other is in...  /usr/share/gdm/custom.conf
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> ntr0py:  i set the delay in both of them
[12:46] <corin_> nighter, thanks, will try in 5min, just started raining really heavily so going out for a smoke ;)
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> ntr0py:  does just 'startx' work? or if you start gdm manually?
[12:47] <imisdal> corin_: Dr_Willis, can i set the user permissons to not be able to browse say /media/ ?
[12:47] <ntr0py> Dr_Willis: yes absolutely
[12:48] <ntr0py> Dr_Willis: can you give me your custom.conf again pls?
[12:48] <corin_> imisdal, chmod 750 or 770
[12:48] <corin_> the 0 means users that dont own the directory, and arent in the directory's group, cant read i
[12:48] <corin_> t
[12:48] <temp> If I wish to file a launchpad bug (wishlist type) but am not quite sure if the feature might be there, newer version or branch or config setting, is it considered okay ettiqite to ask in launchpad answers whether feature exists in newer version/hidden in settings before filing bug- particullaly this is for loggerhead the bzr repository viewer launchpad uses
[12:48] <azlon> wildbat_laptop, i created a crossover cable and assigned static IPs for each machine. the transfer is still going at 10Mps. any ideas?
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> http://pastebin.com/hZu6AMbG      is the /usr/share one - its just like 2 lines..
[12:49] <imisdal> corin_: okey, is that chmod user 750?
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> ntr0py:  i got the identical 2 lines in the /etc/gdm/custom.conf file as well.
[12:49] <corin_> imisdal
[12:49] <bluesman> Now I have a nother question about my PCI intergrated card reader O2 firmware is not running:
[12:49] <bluesman>  pkill gnome-panel
[12:49] <corin_> chmod 750 /media/
[12:49] <rumpsy> imisdal: you can use either of one
[12:49] <bluesman> argl
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> ntr0py:  those settings dont really  cause a 'delay' of gdm. but it sets the time that gdm waits for X to show up (i think)  befor it errors out.
[12:50] <bluesman> *-generic UNCLAIMED
[12:50] <bluesman>                 description: System peripheral
[12:50] <bluesman>                 product: OZ711Mx 4-in-1 MemoryCardBus Accelerator
[12:50] <bluesman>                 vendor: O2 Micro, Inc.
[12:50] <bluesman>                 physical id: 6.2
[12:50] <FloodBot1> bluesman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:50] <bluesman>                 bus info: pci@0000:02:06.2
[12:50] <ntr0py> Dr_Willis: i have no custom.conf's at all, so i just paste those two lines in /etc/gdm/custom.conf and /usr/share/gdm/custom.conf ??
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> ntr0py:  i made them also
[12:51] <rumpsy> hey karthik
[12:51] <imisdal> thanks dudes
[12:51] <rumpsy> omg !
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> ntr0py:  odd - i do have some other stuff in /etc/gdm/custom.conf - here is both my files ---> http://pastebin.com/HcrnJHD6
[12:54] <ntr0py> Dr_Willis: thx ill try to restart with those... just changed my login name in your files...
[12:55] <_picAssO_> i can't edit a file with kate and kile; vim and gedit work; any hint?
[12:55] <Keithamus> Has anyone successfully run Ubuntu Lucid as a guest on Xen 3.0.3 (straight from Centos RPM)?
[12:56] <panfist> synaptic has a function file > generate package download script; is this function available in the terminal?
[12:57] <Keithamus> panfist, try dpkg --get-selections
[12:58] <panfist> thanks
[13:02] <bluesman> ok, no help so I have to leave U and I will ask mmj oder Stepan .... habe fun and thanks
[13:03] <visof> how can i set utf-8 arabic in the gnome-terminal or urxvt ?
[13:03] <azlon> !linkaggregation
[13:03] <azlon> how can i setup link aggregation or link bonding?
[13:04] <pythonic> hi, ubuntu suggests extra packages for multimedia (flash, video codecs, etc.). how can i tell which of these are free software?
[13:04] <bluesman> visof: System... Synaptic and look for languages
[13:05] <bluesman> visitor1: at start U can change
[13:05] <Cervera> hi, question: I'm trying to update and existing xmltv installation to the newest version. but then I apt-get, it tells me newest version installed
[13:05] <pythonic> does ubuntu install non-free software?
[13:05] <NCS_One> hi
[13:05] <Galerien> pythonic: if you tell it to
[13:05] <mek8630> Does anybody know if it is necessary to run a clean up utility like ccleaner or glary on Ubuntu and Xubuntu?
[13:06] <EgyParadox> pythonic: Elaborate.
[13:06] <pythonic> Galerien: ok, well ubuntu suggests packages for "extra multimedia functionality" (flash, video codecs, etc.)
[13:06] <Cervera> BUT, i need a newer version that probably isn't packaged
[13:06] <pythonic> which of these are non-free?
[13:06] <bluesman> Cervera: Terminal, sudo apt-get autoremove and after that start again. Perhaps U get the newestend
[13:06] <Galerien> pythonic: flash and most codecs packages
[13:06] <pythonic> "flashplugin-installer" seems to be a smoking gun
[13:06] <pythonic> Galerien: non-free or merely patent encumbered?
[13:06] <Galerien> pythonic: what do you mean?
[13:07] <Galerien> I'm french dude, didn't get that ;)
[13:07] <pythonic> i understand the flash plugin is the non-free plugin from adobe, yes?
[13:07] <ktne> hello
[13:07] <bluesman> Cervera: Terminal, sudo apt-get autoremove and after that start again ... no reboot, sorry...is automatic and reading new sources
[13:07] <ktne> my usb devices have becomed very flacky in the last few days
[13:07] <Galerien> pythonic: yes
[13:08] <pythonic> Galerien: some free software cannot be distributed because of patents, dmca, etc.
[13:08] <ktne> i suspect that it's a kernel driver issue
[13:08] <mek8630> Are there any utility clean up programs like ccleaner or glary for ubuntu and xubuntu?
[13:08] <ktne> can i downgrade the kernel and get back the old modules too?
[13:08] <pythonic> Galerien: ubuntu suggests installing "flash", "video codecs", "dvd reading", "k3b cd codecs", "mp3 encoding", "mpeg plugins"
[13:09] <ktne> i've tried using synaptic but i can't find a way to downgrade stuff
[13:09] <EgyParadox> ktne: You can choose the previous kernels through the grubmenu.
[13:09] <ktne> but the modules are off
[13:09] <martianixor> hi, this might be offtopic to some extent, but I can surely use good opinions/ideas, HP Pavilion dv6 with colorful vertical lines, from what I've seen it seems to be caused by heat !
[13:09] <ktne> EgyParadox: i get all sorts of errors if i pick the old kernel from grub
[13:09] <martianixor> did any of you guys experience something similar?
[13:09] <pythonic> which are flashplugin-installer, libavcodec-unstripped-52, libdvdread4, libk3b6-extracodecs, libmp3lame0, libxine1-ffmpeg
[13:09]  * ktne restarting
[13:10] <pythonic> Galerien: how can i tell which of these are non-free software?
[13:10] <EgyParadox> ktne: Sorry can't help.
[13:10] <mek8630> martianixor: what is dv6?
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> pythonic:   the repository they are in. is a clue.  'free' means gpl licensing 'free' in most cases. not 'you got to pay $$ for it non free'
[13:10] <Galerien> pythonic: i guess you have to go on the ubuntu website and look for it
[13:11] <martianixor> mek8530 one of HP notebook lines
[13:11] <ktne> the thing is that if i reboot then the usb devices work correctly again
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> !info flashplugin-installer
[13:11] <Galerien> pythonic:  ow, yes, you will NEVER pay for software like that on linux
[13:11] <ktne> i've tried unloading the kernel module too, but the rmmod command gets stuck
[13:11] <martianixor> mek8530 model 1235ee specifically
[13:12] <ktne> is it normal for rmmod to get stuck? is there any way to "kill" a module?
[13:12] <pythonic> Dr_Willis: i know what Free means, but even some Free Software may not be distributed because of patents, dmca
[13:12] <mek8630> martianixor: my aunt has a similar problem with a dell laptop
[13:12] <pythonic> Dr_Willis: ubuntu is not clearly making a distinction between Free but patented and Non-Free
[13:12] <martianixor> mek8630: I was stupid enough to not check and then double check for problems with those models of HP notebooks/laptops
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> They need a better term for it :)
[13:13] <mek8630> martianixor: if you know this is caused by heat the only easy solution is to just make sure you keep it as cool as possible
[13:13] <martianixor> mek8630: cause I would've discovered things like http://hpverticalline.com/ before I buy
[13:13] <pythonic> Dr_Willis: i'd like to install Free Software like libdvdcss, but i don't want Non-Free software like adobe flash
[13:13] <northern_deer> people, i need help
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> pythonic:   I recall some ubuntu variants that focus on doing just that. but i never pay any attention to it.  So cant help much more
[13:14] <martianixor> mek8630: did you have a similar problem?
[13:14] <Barridus> !medibuntu pythonic
[13:14] <mek8630> martianixor: my aunt is having the same problem with a dell
[13:14] <Barridus> !medibuntu|pythonic
[13:14] <martianixor> mek8630: the problem is I can't live with it, simply cause I move alot which means heat for short
[13:15] <Barridus> pythonic: there's a blurb in the repo howto to avoid non-free
[13:15] <martianixor> mek8630: well, you didn't help her getting it fixed?
[13:15] <mek8630> martianixor: the only QUICK solution I can think of is to get one of those cooling pads they make for laptops with the extra fans in them.
[13:16] <mek8630> martianixor: yes she had to buy a new screen
[13:16] <martianixor> mek8630: yeah I thought of that already, the problem is that it's not fixed yet
[13:16] <pythonic> Barridus: the "restricted" repo that has libdvdcss also has adobe flash installer, yes?
[13:16] <Galerien> !past
[13:16] <Roland> hi. I'm trying to create a live USB disk for ubuntu. which partition types are supported? FAT32 seems to work, NTFS doesn't, what else works?
[13:16] <martianixor> mek8630: the problem seems to exist in the screen inverter
[13:16] <ykaya> exit
[13:16] <mek8630> martianixor: I was just trying to think of easy solutions that would save you from having to buy a new screen
[13:16] <martianixor> mek8630: due to a very stupid heatsink design
[13:17] <pythonic> Barridus: medibuntu includes acrobat reader
[13:17] <martianixor> mek8630: I think I should get rid of it
[13:17] <mek8630> martianixor: yes even if you buy a new screen it will either only be a temporary fix or not stop completely the only other option is to send it into HP unless you know someone with spare parts
[13:18] <mek8630> martianixor: yes I think so too, you will always have problems with it
[13:18] <pythonic> is there some easy way to exclude Non-Free software like acrobat reader, but include Free but restricted (by patent/dmca) software like libdvdcss?
[13:18] <northern_deer> i've got problems with package named "fglrx", i can't delete or reinstall it. that's what it's said: http://linuxportal.by/paste/index.php?show=13
[13:18] <mek8630> martianixor: at least you will know not to make the same mistake haha
[13:18] <martianixor> mek8630: even if I sent it to HP care, it's a temporary fix, they'd replace the inverter same problem exists I think
[13:19] <martianixor> mek8630: yeah no one learns for free
[13:19] <mek8630> martianixor: they may have come up with a solution by now
[13:19] <Barridus> pythonic: from the how-to on medibuntu "If you were using acroread from medibuntu before Jaunty was released, you can uninstall it as medibuntu no longer provides acroread. Instead you can get acroread by enabled the Canonical partner repository under System->Administration->Software Sources->Third Party Software. "
[13:19] <mek8630> martianixor: since your not the only one I am sure that has had this problem they may have redesigned the parts to work better
[13:20] <martianixor> mek8630: yeah I'm hoping for that, the problem is that the only solution would be in the inverter itself cause they wouldn't be able to modify my frigin notebook's casing design
[13:20] <martianixor> mek8630: half the heat goes up to the inverter
[13:20] <martianixor> mek8630: yes I'm hoping
[13:20] <mek8630> martianixor: honestly if you send it in and have it fixed then the battle would be keeping it cool so it doesnt happen again. I would just invest in a better laptop
[13:20] <martianixor> mek8630: although I guess mine isn't that Old
[13:21] <martianixor> mek8630: I guess it was manufactured way after that problem was wide spread
[13:21] <mek8630> martianixor: there are plenty of low cost laptops out there now that will last 10 years or better
[13:21] <northern_deer> people, I NEED HELP!
[13:21] <northern_deer> :(
[13:22] <martianixor> mek8630: It would be hard to choose something with a similar Hardware specifications
[13:22] <jMCg> northern_deer: how'd you install it?
[13:22] <mek8630> martianixor: well I think you already know what you have to do, unfortunately there is no easy fix
[13:22] <northern_deer> maybe it was installed automatically with something
[13:22] <mek8630> martianixor: what is so great about that model?
[13:22] <northern_deer> i dont remember
[13:22] <babu__> hi to all.....when i saved the page from indiabix.com,and again open it from my harddisk,it shows empty...........wat's the reason
[13:23] <martianixor> mek8630: it's just the 3MB L2 cache and 4MB RAM with ATI Radeon
[13:23] <jMCg> northern_deer: dpkg -l fglrx
[13:24] <mek8630> martianixor: oh yeah I see your point
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> babu__:  look at the contents of the actual file you saved. Could be mnost of the page was from some javascript/extras that didtnt get saved
[13:24] <mek8630> martianixor: well if that is worth it to you to keep sinking more and more money into it
[13:24] <bluesman> i leave and have a nice day
[13:25] <martianixor> mek8630: I guess I'll have to contact HP support and try to convince them to tell me if they've developed a solution for such problem heh
[13:25] <pythonic> Barridus: ah, ok, thanks
[13:25] <babu__> i checked.....i found all pictures and other stuffs in the file......but it is not shown when i opened it in browser.....
[13:25] <mek8630> martianixor: yeah that's what I would do so you know if the problem will actually be fixed or not
[13:25] <martianixor> mek8630: do you know a better Laptop with similar hardware?
[13:25] <babu__> it's html file
[13:25] <Barridus> pythonic: yeah the repo howtwo on medibuntu is a bit long, but easy to follow
[13:26] <cayphed> hello
[13:26] <mek8630> the best laptop I have is a emachines E725 it has a Pentium dual-core
[13:26] <mek8630> martianixor: I like it, it works great for multimedia
[13:26] <cayphed> can some one tell me how to get the older kernels in lucid?
[13:26] <cayphed> please
[13:26] <northern_deer> jMCg: http://linuxportal.by/paste/index.php?show=14
[13:27] <martianixor> mek8630: never heard of it heh
[13:27] <kylindlind> Hi everyone, is this the right channel to ask for advice in finding useful programs, or is there a channel better suited for that topic?
[13:27] <martianixor> mek8630: sounds an Acer?
[13:27] <mek8630> martianixor: yeah they are a division of acer
[13:27] <Barridus> i think acer owns them now, as well as gateway
[13:27] <mek8630> martianixor: they are only 350 dollars
[13:28] <mek8630> martianixor: it has 1mb L2 cache 3gb ram 250gb hdd
[13:28] <martianixor> mek8630: nice
[13:28] <babu__> rply for me
[13:28] <mek8630> martianixor: I am big on multimedia and it works great for that.
[13:28] <pedrocr> archive and security.ubuntu.com are very slow for me, anyone see the same thing? I changed to another mirror and it was fine so the connection seems good
[13:29] <Barridus> pedrocr: yes they seem slow at the moment
[13:29] <mek8630> martianixor: but I am also a hobbyist and like to fix up and use old computer
[13:29] <martianixor> mek8630: I wonder about graphics too
[13:30] <mek8630> martianixor: it has 1300 something mb for graphics
[13:30] <pedrocr> Barridus, any reason why?
[13:30] <sinistrad> Hi, xorg.conf seems to be set right, but everytime I log in, my resolution is way lower. I have to go into nvidia settings and change it, and it is fine until reboot. Why is it doing this?
[13:31] <Gryllida> Can I chat on IRC from the Terminal?
[13:31] <martianixor> mek8630: well I guess I know what I have to do, and I should've waited to get a Dell Altitude or something
[13:31] <sinistrad> Gryllida: I am
[13:31] <Gryllida> sinistrad: how?
[13:31] <mek8630> martianixor: what do you use it for?
[13:31] <sinistrad> Gryllida: irssi
[13:31] <Gryllida> sinistrad: what should i install / type for it?
[13:31] <jrib> Gryllida: weechat and irssi are popular
[13:31] <martianixor> mek8630: I'm investing money in laptop/notebook cause I don't have a Desktop PC
[13:31] <Gryllida> irssi is not gui?!
[13:31] <sinistrad> Gryllida: sudo aptitude install irssi
[13:31] <jrib> Gryllida: correct
[13:32] <martianixor> mek8630: well a wide varity of uses actually
[13:32] <northern_deer> jMCg: http://linuxportal.by/paste/index.php?show=14
[13:32] <BrixSat> im getting my screen with some lines and once in a while swaping and bouncing very fast, it must be a driver problem :S how do i fix it? (ati radeon x2300)
[13:32] <mek8630> martianixor: I do alot of video like movies and all that
[13:32] <martianixor> mek8630: 3D Modeling sometimes as well
[13:32] <pythonic> how can i tell which repository an installed package came from?
[13:32] <mek8630> martianixor: get this
[13:32] <martianixor> mek8630: yeah and of course heavy Video editing
[13:33] <jMCg> northern_deer, yes..?
[13:33] <mek8630> martianixor: I am using RIGHT NOW a IBM Thinkpad 600X w/ Pentium III 500mhz and I am able to stream my movies to the PS3 just fine
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> Gryllida:  i perfer 'weechat' to irssi for text based irc clients.
[13:34] <easy-guy> i have installed "phpmyadmin". I know it is graphical. But i how i will get it open?
[13:34] <northern_deer> jMCg: >jMCg northern_deer: dpkg -l fglrx
[13:35] <martianixor> mek8630: I've been using configurations like that for ages, and thought it's time for some Luxury if you know what I mean a relief instead of waiting for Rendering
[13:35] <northern_deer> jMCg: http://linuxportal.by/paste/index.php?show=14
[13:35] <cmol> Hi. Is there any way i can get a list of hardware on my ubuntu box? I'm having an issue with an onboard audio card not working.
[13:35] <sinistrad> easy-guy: point your browser to /var/www/phpmyadmin
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> !info hwinfo
[13:35] <jMCg> northern_deer: yes, so what? You installed it through apt(-get|itude) -- it also means it's perfectly installed.. supposedly. And it means that you can just as well purge it.
[13:35] <mek8630> martianixor: yes I know what you mean that is what I got the Emachines laptop for, if I need any power processing to be done
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> cmol:  the 'hwinfo' tool is handy
[13:36] <martianixor> mek8630: you can't do more tasks with rendering in background "Even with my hardware specs"
[13:36] <martianixor> sometimes
[13:36] <cmol> great thanks! I'll my come back if it don't work..
[13:36] <easy-guy> sinistrad, i already browsed but not worked
[13:36] <bdebuggeroy> my ubuntu lucid is not having sound? How can I fix it?
[13:36] <mek8630> martianixor: I am not sure what you mean by rendering?
[13:36] <northern_deer> jMCg: it doesn't work. it's supposed to work as a driver, yes? but Compiz says there is no drivers installed. and purging it doesn't work too
[13:37] <martianixor> mek8630: High Definition videos or 3D animations sometimes
[13:37] <sinistrad> easy-guy: you might have to make sure there isn't any capital letters that were missed, and also that your symbolic link to the real phpmyadmin folder is correct
[13:37] <easy-guy> sinistrad, phpmyadmin installed in /etc/phpmyadmin
[13:37] <BrixSat> im getting my screen with some lines ocasionaly  and once in a while swaping and bouncing very fast, it must be a driver problem :S how do i fix it? (ati radeon x2300)
[13:37] <mek8630> martianixor: yeah I don't do much of that with this old laptop just streaming movies to the PS3
[13:37] <sinistrad> easy-guy: your configs should be there, but the real one should be someplace like /usr/share/phpmyadmin
[13:38] <mek8630> martianixor: it was mostly a project just to see if it could do it
[13:38] <bdebuggeroy> \q
[13:38] <northern_deer> jMCg: and that's what is said when i'm purging it http://linuxportal.by/paste/index.php?show=13
[13:38] <martianixor> mek8630: yeah I figured :-)
[13:39] <mek8630> martianixor: do you know of any clean up utility for ubuntu and xubuntu?
[13:39] <debuggerboy> please tell me how can I enable sound in ubuntu 10.04. sound is not working
[13:39] <mek8630> martianixor: like glary or ccleaner?
[13:39] <BrixSat> im getting some lines in the screen that apear and dissaperar very fast and also the screen some times goes black?
[13:40] <martianixor> mek8630: I think I came across something like ccleaner although I never needed such things with Linux in general
[13:40] <easy-guy> sinistrad, /usr/share/phpmyadmin   this is worked but now?
[13:40] <mek8630> martianixor: Linux doesn't need those types of programs? I am wondering because it seems like this laptop has been slowing down lately
[13:40] <Nvidiot> I have a strange problem with installing Ubuntu 10.04. The installer (desktop CD, 64-bit) sees no drives/partitions, but when I look in the console and type fdisk -l it DOES see the harddisk with 2 partitions (Windows 7 is installed, I want to dual-boot)
[13:40] <martianixor> mek8630: I'm sure you can find out more on Ubuntu Forums, cause I can't recall at the moment
[13:41] <martianixor> mek8630: I'll try to remember though :-)
[13:41] <sinistrad> easy-guy: you can point your browser there, or create a symbolic link in /var/www/ to point to it
[13:41] <cmol> Well.. i did hwinfo --sound, and i get nothing. So maybe there are no drivers for the sound card?
[13:41] <martianixor> mek8630: slowing down, could be caused by a number of reasons, did you try a tool like htop? to monitor CPU/Mem usage
[13:42] <slow-motion> hi
[13:42] <mek8630> martianixor: cool yeah I am still new to Linux and really feel pretty lost most the time
[13:42] <mek8630> martianixor: yes my cpu has been running very high lately
[13:42] <mek8630> martianixor: just to perform basic tasks
[13:42] <debuggerboy> please tell me how can I enable sound in ubuntu 10.04. sound is not working
[13:43] <martianixor> mek8630: well htop is a CLI utility that would tell you what's the process using your CPU/Mem the most
[13:43] <pythonic> does the kubuntu install cd install any non-free software?
[13:43] <easy-guy> sinistrad, how to create symbolic link?
[13:43] <anirvana> Hi,and revert back to an older version of gcc in ubuntu?
[13:43] <anirvana> Hi,Can anyone tell me how to detect and revert back to an older version of gcc in ubuntu?
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> easy-guy:  ln -s onething otherthing
[13:44] <martianixor> mek8630: can you get it?
[13:44] <Dr_Willis> !pin | anirvana
[13:44] <jMCg> northern_deer: dpkg --purge --force-all fglrx && aptitude reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx -- that should get you somewhere..
[13:44] <ubuntu> i have a problem before of the update of 10.04 i saw the networked hard disk now it's impossible.
[13:44] <mek8630> martianixor: I am not sure but I will check into that
[13:44] <martianixor> mek8630: first you need to know what's using your CPU
[13:44] <northern_deer> jMCg: thanks
[13:45] <sinistrad> easy-guy: "man ls" will get you a manual on that. The command is something like "ln -s", but check the man-page before I steer you wrong
[13:45] <martianixor> mek8630: yes it's a very useful tool
[13:45] <easy-guy> sinistrad, ok
[13:45] <ubuntu> i have a problem before of the update of 10.04 i saw the networked hard disk now it's impossible. can you help me?
[13:46] <amee2k> i'm using the live CD. is there a way to eject the CD to free up the drive without installing to the hard disk?
[13:46] <mek8630> martianixor: ok I am installing it now
[13:46] <Ragav> hi this s Ragava
[13:46] <martianixor> mek8630: as far as I recall ccleaner was mostly for Windows Registery, you don't have such thing in a Linux environment
[13:46] <rocket16> Hello Ragav, I am from India too, :)
[13:46] <martianixor> mek8630: great :-)
[13:46] <mek8630> martianixor: yes ccleaner and glary is what I use for my windows op systems
[13:47] <pythonic> why does kubuntu not have a sensible default iptables configuration?
[13:47] <amee2k> i can neither eject the disk manually nor unmount it
[13:47] <Dr_Willis> pythonic:  last i checked the default was  no rules.. thats sensible.
[13:47] <amee2k> and i have a hunch overriding the tray lock will lead to disaster
[13:47] <evilsherpa> hi sorry. i didnt get round to doing this earlier, to remove an empty mount point, would i use sudo rmdir /media/ipod
[13:47] <pythonic> Dr_Willis: no rules is insane
[13:47] <martianixor> mek8630: well you don't need that with Ubuntu, so let's see what's eating your system's resources
[13:47] <Dr_Willis> pythonic:  no it is not.
[13:47] <evilsherpa> if i wanted to remove the ipod dir?
[13:48] <pythonic> Dr_Willis: yes it is
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> pythonic:  take it to the forums or ubuntu-offtopic then.  if you want to argue the point.
[13:48] <pythonic> no rules is SUICIDE
[13:48] <northern_deer> jMCg: http://pastebin.com/7LbV6uqy
[13:48] <amee2k> i do have enough ram to keep the cd content in a ramdisk however, if thats an option
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> pythonic:  thats debateable.. elsewhere.
[13:48]  * CyberaX2195 hopes somone will SRU the patch he just pasted :S
[13:48] <amee2k> any hints?
[13:48] <pythonic> no rules is MURDER
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> pythonic:  whatever.
[13:48] <sun_> hello
[13:49] <pythonic> no rules is OBAMA
[13:49] <om26er> Cyber_Akuma, bug # ?
[13:49] <sinistrad> no rules is off-topic
[13:49] <Pici> pythonic: Enough
[13:49] <Pici> !guidelines > pythonic
[13:49] <pythonic> Pici: more than enough
[13:49] <pythonic> Pici: ubuntu is too much
[13:49] <martianixor> mek8630: got it installed?
[13:50] <pythonic> ubottu: oh, so now there are rules?
[13:50] <CyberaX2195> amee2k: i assume that was for me, its the one for tar regarding the problems with futimens() and changes to glibc unfortunately i cant access launchpad atm
[13:50] <CyberaX2195> (Error ID: OOPS-1620G1111) << just gives that heh
[13:50] <amee2k> hu?
[13:50] <mek8630> martianixor: well it's not letting me download it, it says that it requires installation of untrusted packages and I click ok and it stops the download. It doesn't give me any other option
[13:50] <arand> CyberaX2195: Well, make sure you've gone through the SRU policy ;) (and for packaging/sponsoring in universe, #ubuntu-motu is the place)
[13:51] <amee2k> i asked how to eject the live cd while running it
[13:51] <arand> CyberaX2195: Try again, launchpad can be quirky at times...
[13:51] <Oer> !resetpanels|Oer
[13:51] <Nvidiot> I have a strange problem with installing Ubuntu 10.04. The installer (desktop CD, 64-bit) sees no drives/partitions, but when I look in the console and type fdisk -l it DOES see the harddisk with 2 partitions (Windows 7 is installed, I want to dual-boot)
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> They really need to make some 'reset tool'  that lets users reset their panels and stuff :) perhaps other apps as well.
[13:51] <martianixor> mek8630: how did you install ?
[13:51] <arand> amee2k: unless you used TORAM=yes when booting it, there is a very good reson it won't allow ejection...
[13:52] <northern_deer> Nvidiot: you're not alone :)
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> arand:  theres a toram option? How  have i overlooked that all these years...
[13:52] <Pici> Dr_Willis: Have you looked at the Janitor tool?  It may have some options like that in there, I haven't played with it myself to try though.
[13:52] <mek8630> through the ubuntu software center
[13:52] <Nvidiot> northern_deer you have the same problem?
[13:52] <sinistrad> restarting X...
[13:52] <northern_deer> not me, sorry
[13:52] <arand> Dr_Willis: New in lucid ;)
[13:52] <easy-guy> sinistrad, i have created it but not working
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> Pici:  that janitor tool is  the sort of tool that.. well.. shouldent be used. :)
[13:52] <amee2k> arand: yeah, because it keeps it mounted i suppose
[13:52] <Pici> Dr_Willis: Oh :(
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> arand:  ok :)
[13:52] <martianixor> mek8630: do an update, do you know how?
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> Pici:  yea. it has a lot of odd quirks :) dosent let you reset just the settings either.
[13:53] <amee2k> arand: i'll try the toram=yes thing
[13:53] <Nvidiot> I'm totally confused as to why this can happen. It can't be a driver problem, because fdisk sees it. Installer bug?
[13:53] <sun__> .
[13:53] <martianixor> mek8630: also, do you update whenever there's an update available?
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> Nvidiot:  ive seen others mention the installer not beign able to see partitions. never seen a fix mentioned however
[13:53] <mek8630> martianixor: yes I always make sure I keep it up to date
[13:53] <CyberaX2195> arand: nope :P launchpad is timing out with an error hehe, and the patch was released in January by a debian developer, i just cross pasted it, as one of the comments stated that he wanted a patch for just that bug. found the url finally - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tar/+bug/539814
[13:53] <martianixor> mek8630: first of all, do you do any production work on this Ubuntu?
[13:53] <pythonic> does ubuntu install cd install any non-free software?
[13:54] <arand> Dr_Willis: Pici: CJ can be used (e.g. removing old kernels) But one has to be _careful_, since it tends to suggest manuallly installed packages for removal :/
[13:54] <mek8630> martianixor: production work?
[13:54] <martianixor> mek8630: video editing?
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> arand:  at one time. i recall it removing the in use kernel also. :)
[13:54] <Pici> pythonic: I believe that it does not do so by default.
[13:54] <Galerien> pythonic: no
[13:54] <mek8630> martianixor: yes
[13:54] <untmdsprt> how hard or easy is it to install Ubuntu with a separate /home and system partition?
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> arand:  but that may bee fixed now. (i hope)
[13:54] <martianixor> mek8630: what tool are you using?
[13:54] <amee2k> how do you edit the boot-time options in whatever bootloader the live cd uses?
[13:54] <Nvidiot> Dr_Willis lovely. I suppose I could try a 9.10 CD and upgrade to 10.04 if that works. Or maybe 9.04, I think I have that cd somewhere
[13:54] <arand> Dr_Willis: I do to...
[13:54] <pythonic> Pici, Galerien: ok, thanks
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> untmdsprt:  rather trivial. :)
[13:54] <amee2k> hitting 'e' as in grub doesn't work
[13:54] <pythonic> now i know i am undefiled
[13:54] <Galerien> untmdsprt: you just have to make several partitions and select /, /home, /opt...
[13:55] <untmdsprt> under manual configuration?
[13:55] <amee2k> nevermind, its F6
[13:55] <Dr_Willis> untmdsprt:   / /home and a 'swap' is about all i do.
[13:55] <Galerien> untmdsprt: if you can count and read.... that's ok, yes, manual configuration
[13:55] <martianixor> mek8630: OK back to your problem, was making sure of the tools you need most
[13:55] <gnomefreak> Pici: pythonic it does install some apps like firefox it has licenses like MPL(not so free) and GPLv*
[13:55] <amee2k> arand: is capitalization in TORAM=yes important?
[13:55] <northern_deer> jMCg: still the same problem, maybe reinstall ubuntu? :'-(
[13:55] <untmdsprt> Dr_Willis: Galerien: I haven't seen an automatic way
[13:55] <Nvidiot> Dr_Willis I'm going to try creating a / and swap manually, see if it'll see those. If not, I'll try a 9.04 or 9.10 upgrade :)
[13:56] <gnomefreak> MPL is in place for example icon is not free
[13:56] <arand> amee2k: I'm not sure, but I know it worked for me WITH, capitalization.
[13:56] <pythonic> gnomefreak: i don't care about non-free icons
[13:56] <pythonic> but adobe flash is intolerable
[13:56] <martianixor> mek8630: see if there updates available, then try to install htop again
[13:56] <Galerien> pythonic: and usefull in some cases...
[13:56] <untmdsprt> Galerien: ok, thanks
[13:56] <martianixor> mek8630: you had this problem earlier before I told you about htop?
[13:56] <gnomefreak> pythonic: you asked and there are other things in the MPL just used that as an example
[13:57] <mek8630> martianixor: yeah I already made sure everything was up to date before I got on this chat
[13:57] <mek8630> martianixor: no
[13:57] <Galerien> untmdsprt: if you need some additional support, just /query Galerien
[13:57] <gnomefreak> pythonic: nothing that is a full non-free app is not installed by default
[13:57] <mek8630> martianixor: I think I know what is running my cpu up as far as processes
[13:58] <mek8630> martianixor: I think its my torrent client
[13:58] <martianixor> mek8630: you could try top
[13:58] <untmdsprt> actually I would love to be able to put ubuntu on an external drive, but I don't think it's possible yet
[13:58] <martianixor> mek8630: see if you have top installed
[13:58] <gnomefreak> untmdsprt: people have done so
[13:58] <untmdsprt> gnomefreak: with a Mac?
[13:58] <gnomefreak> martianixor: top is installed by default IIRC
[13:58] <Dr_Willis> martianixor:  ages ago i had some issues with rtorrent (i think) or some torrent lib that a lot of torrent clients used that sucked up 100% of one cpu on my multi cpusuyste,
[13:58] <livingdaylight> also, kann mir jemand mit playOnLinux helfen?
[13:58] <martianixor> gnomefreak: thanks :-)
[13:58] <gnomefreak> untmdsprt: i dont know i never tried
[13:58] <Barridus> i like "atop" better than "top"
[13:59] <Galerien> untmdsprt: I have a ubuntu on a usb stick...
[13:59] <livingdaylight> how i can play Age of Empire on Ubuntu?
[13:59] <Dr_Willis> Htop is so purty.
[13:59] <Dr_Willis> !wine | livingdaylight
[13:59] <untmdsprt> Galerien: I'm wanting Ubuntu on my external drive
[13:59] <martianixor> Dr_Willis: well I'm currently having a similar problem caused by gvfs-metadata and I had to live with it
[13:59] <untmdsprt> Galerien: and haven't been able to do so yet
[13:59] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: I have wine already, so now how do i get Age of Empire. REpository?
[14:00] <jrib> livingdaylight: don't you already have age of empires?
[14:00] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  its a comercial game.. you buy it. put in the cd.. run teh installer
[14:00] <gnomefreak> ! install > untmdsprt   it might be listed in one of thes links
[14:00] <mek8630> martianixor: actually I am being swamped with some problems at the moment haha I am going to have to get off here and start takin care of some of this
[14:00] <livingdaylight> jrib: no, I don't have it
[14:00] <martianixor> mek8630: what torrent client is eating up your CPU?
[14:00] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  seen it for $10 in the bargin game  shelfs.
[14:00] <jrib> livingdaylight: purchase it
[14:00] <mek8630> martianixor: I am trying to do to much at one time
[14:00] <arand> CyberaX2195: Are you really sure those statuses should be set to fix released? THe patch is only pasted on the bur report right, not applied to the lucid version of the package?
[14:00] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  it ran ok in wine a few months back when i tried it.
[14:00] <pythonic> livingdaylight: buy it or rob the store
[14:00] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: i see! I thought it was something I can get in repositories, lol
[14:00] <arand> CyberaX2195: *bug report
[14:00] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  why would you think that?
[14:01] <livingdaylight> pythonic: I like how you think, hehe
[14:01] <jrib> livingdaylight: you might like wesnoth which is a native linux game
[14:01] <mek8630> martianixor: transmission but it never has before so I am wondering why it is now
[14:01] <Barridus> slow repos are slooooooooooooow atm
[14:01] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  its the name of one of  MS's comercial  games..
[14:01] <martianixor> mek8630: unfortunately I can't do that heh, I get nervous multitasking
[14:01] <pythonic> livingdaylight: yeah, the piratebay.ubuntu.com repository
[14:01] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: i don't know... I thought there was Ubuntu version
[14:01] <Pici> !piracy | pythonic
[14:01] <livingdaylight> pythonic: :p
[14:01] <arand> Barridus: Use local/best ones?
[14:01] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  theres similer games. I saw one just the other day that came out. I forget its name
[14:01] <mek8630> martianixor: yeah I multitask alot hahah and I got ahead of myself at the moment
[14:01] <livingdaylight> jrib: wesnoth? in repository?
[14:01] <pythonic> !lol | Pici
[14:01] <Barridus> arand: they're slow/fail too XD
[14:01] <jrib> livingdaylight: yes; yes
[14:01] <martianixor> mek8630: restarting your transmission is the shorter faster solution
[14:02] <CyberaX2195> arand: i can apply it nps to a debdiff if needed
[14:02] <Pici> pythonic: I'm not laughing.
[14:02] <CyberaX2195> even upload a pkg with it if people require
[14:02] <pythonic> Pici: oh, wait, you really thought there was a piratebay.ubuntu.com repository?
[14:02] <martianixor> mek8630: I wonder how you could find out it's Transmission though ;-)
[14:02]  * CyberaX2195 does that now actually
[14:02] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  check out '0 A.D' --> http://www.workswithu.com/2009/10/13/0-ad-promises-real-gaming-for-ubuntu/
[14:02] <arand> CyberaX2195: Yes, but until it has been pushed into SRU the status should not be "released".
[14:02] <mek8630> martianixor: I am good at sensing these things
[14:02] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis: cheers...
[14:03] <martianixor> mek8630: hahaha yeah right
[14:03] <mek8630> martianixor: hahaha
[14:03] <CyberaX2195> arand: err, doh i read that as 'a fix has been released by xxx'
[14:03] <northern_deer> now the next question: how can I kill an installed package manually, not using apt-get or something?
[14:03] <CyberaX2195> and then fix commited as its been pushed out
[14:03] <jrib> northern_deer: what do you mean by "kill"?
[14:03] <pythonic> Pici: btw, does "questionably legal practices" include linking to medibuntu?
[14:03] <arand> CyberaX2195: Nope, it's meant as "fix has been released in a new package update"
[14:04] <CyberaX2195> ah
[14:04] <northern_deer> delete all its files and references to it
[14:04] <mek8630> martianixor: I pay close attention to how my computer acts at all times
[14:04] <CyberaX2195> arand: i should reset those then :S
[14:04] <arand> CyberaX2195: "Which is available in this version of ubuntu for automatical install"
[14:04] <stix> Hi guys. I am tired of Firefox 3.6.3 crashing all the time during execution of java-applets. What can I do about it?
[14:04] <Dr_Willis> northern_deer:  why would youi not want to use apt-get ?
[14:04] <jrib> northern_deer: if it's a deb package, why would you /not/ want to use apt-get/dpkg?
[14:04] <untmdsprt> gnomefreak: no, it lists a PowerPC Mac, but nothing for an Intel Mac :(
[14:04] <arand> CyberaX2195: Yes I think so
[14:05] <rizwan> Hi, i have install Ubuntu, i have motorola USB device to connect internet, how can i configure it with ubuntu.. so that i could access the internet with ubuntu OS
[14:05] <CyberaX2195> arand: IP should be ok, i would have thought?
[14:05] <CyberaX2195> In progress
[14:05] <northern_deer> jrib, Dr_Willis: they refuse to work with this package
[14:05] <Pici> pythonic: No, but it does include suggesting that people use the pirate bay to download commercial software.
[14:05] <jrib> northern_deer: be less vague (use pastebin)
[14:05] <sipior> stix: which java vm are you using?
[14:05] <northern_deer> :)
[14:05] <gnomefreak> untmdsprt: sorry than
[14:05] <pythonic> Pici: splitting hairs, much?
[14:05] <Pici> pythonic: I'm sorry, but those are the rules.
[14:06] <martianixor> mek8630: it's not an engine mek ;-)
[14:06] <arand> CyberaX2195: The one for "tar (Ubuntu)" should be "released" if the fixed tar is available in maverick at the moment.
[14:06] <northern_deer> jrib: http://linuxportal.by/paste/index.php?show=13
[14:06] <mek8630> martianixor: I am computer whisperer
[14:06] <mek8630> martianixor: haha
[14:06] <stix> sipior, how can I check that?
[14:07] <CyberaX2195> k arand thanks
[14:07] <sipior> stix: try navigating to "about:plugins" in your browser.
[14:07] <jrib> northern_deer: what ubuntu version is this?
[14:07] <northern_deer> jrib: 10.04
[14:07] <Guest10376> does anyone else experience problems with grub2 after installing ubuntu 10.04 lts?
[14:07] <martianixor> mek8630: you use voice recognition to use your computer?
[14:07] <Guest10376> is there a way to replace is with lilo during installation?
[14:07] <Dr_Willis> Guest10376:  generally no. but there are some issues that arise. State the actual problem to the channel and see who can help
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> Guest10376:  you really dont want to use LILO any more
[14:08] <Guest10376> i really want :)
[14:08] <stix> sipior, "The IcedTea NPR Web Browser Plugin (using IcedTea6 1.8 (6b18-1.8-0ubuntu1)) executes Java applets"
[14:08] <mek8630> martianixor: abort
[14:08] <martianixor> mek8630: hahaha nice one
[14:09] <Guest10376> Dr_Willis: it's just as easy as nothing boots after installation
[14:09] <arand> CyberaX2195: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates is the procedure for SRU, make sure the debdiff has the correct version number and is targeted at the -proposed pocket.
[14:09] <jrib> northern_deer: sudo aptitude update && apt-cache policy fglrx xorg-driver-fglrx
[14:09] <ntr0py> Dr_Willis: GdmXserverTimeout=60 wouldnt delay gdm's start?
[14:09] <sipior> stix: try installing the "sun-java6-plugin" and see if that doesn't improve matters.
[14:09] <stix> sipior, okay will do
[14:10] <rizwan> any one knows how to enable USB device for internet
[14:10] <mek8630> martianixor: uh your last trasmission was jumbled so anyways hows the weather over there in idaho
[14:10] <stix> sipior, strangely there's no Install-button in Sun java 6 plugin in software center
[14:10] <franz_see> how can i find out the default encoding used by the machine i am ssh'd to?
[14:11] <arand> CyberaX2195: Also the bug report needs to contain a clearly labelled test-case, etc. (most of those things are there it seems, just needs some structuring and labelling I guess..
[14:11] <Dr_Willis> ntr0py:  it tells gdm to wait so long for the X server(and drivers) to get going/started befor it thinks theres a probpem (from what i recall reading)  Think about what you are asking..  GDM is using X. how can it wait for X to start when it has to start X.. its 'watching' for a set amount of time for X to get started up - beor it goes into a 'it crashed lets do somthing mode'  (at least thats how I
[14:11] <Dr_Willis> understand it)
[14:11] <sipior> stix: might already be installed. try removing the offending plugin.
[14:11] <stix> sipior, I removed it, but it is not showed as installed
[14:12] <pericles> Hi everyone
[14:12] <sipior> stix: have a go from the terminal: "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin"
[14:12] <northern_deer> jrib: http://linuxportal.by/paste/index.php?show=15
[14:12] <mek8630> martianixor: just messin around my pain meds are kickin in and feel kinda retarded
[14:12] <stix> sipior, no such package
[14:13] <martianixor> mek8630: no worries I was just busy Rolling on Floor Laughing
[14:13] <jrib> northern_deer: why are you using -proposed?
[14:13] <pericles> I run ubuntu 10.04, and the look of my Empathy status icons are the old one, with the green dot and the red triangle, How can I put the new ones ?
[14:13] <ntr0py> Dr_Willis: i tried your files and the login somehow looked different (so i suspect it honors GdmXserverTimeout=60) but unfortunately i have the same error...
[14:13] <mek8630> martianixor: oh I thought maybe I was gettin to weird
[14:13] <mek8630> martianixor: I tend to do that
[14:13] <sipior> stix: try "apt-cache search sun | grep plugin" you may need to enable another repository, but i don't have a 10.04 box to hand to check.
[14:13] <northern_deer> jrib: does it change anything here?
[14:14] <jrib> northern_deer: does the problem exist with the package not from -proposed?
[14:14] <pericles> I run ubuntu 10.04, and the look of my Empathy status icons are the old one, with the green dot and the red triangle, How can I put the new ones ?
[14:14] <bazhang> stix, enable the partner repo
[14:14] <martianixor> mek8630: heh it's cool no worries
[14:14] <aurilliance> someone tell me something cool I can do with my ubuntu netbook.....
[14:14] <bazhang> !partner | stix
[14:14] <stix> cool
[14:15] <sipior> bazhang: much obliged, sir.
[14:15] <jrib> northern_deer: -proposed is meant for people who want to help fix a bug/issue, report, and try to resolve issues like your current one when they come up.  It's not meant for the average person to use
[14:15] <bazhang> martianixor, mek8630 #ubuntu-offtopic please
[14:15] <Avasz> how do i change the hostname of my pc?
[14:15] <Pici> !hostname | Avasz
[14:15] <martianixor> bazhang: yeah sorry, thanks for warning :-)
[14:15] <northern_deer> jrib: thanks, i didn't know
[14:15] <northern_deer> jrib: so what next do i need to do?
[14:15] <Avasz> Pici, what does current hostname mean? the one thta is now? or another after i change?
[14:16] <jrib> northern_deer: get rid of -proposed for starters
[14:16] <mek8630> bazhang: we weren't off topic it was code
[14:16] <martianixor> mek8630: may I PM?
[14:16] <mek8630> martianixor: cool
[14:17] <Pici> Avasz: I normally make sure that I am using sudo -i or I already have both files open with a privleged user before saving.  I'm not sure which order causes the breakage, sorry :/
[14:17] <northern_deer> jrib: i know i'm dumb, but how? :D
[14:17] <rumpsy> bye bye
[14:17] <jrib> northern_deer: Software Sources
[14:18] <lolmaus[]|2> I've got three PCs: 1) Ubuntu 2) Win2003 3) WinXP. There are SMB shares on both 1 and 2. When i use 3 to copy from one share to another, the speed is ~5MB/s. But when i smbmount 2's share to 1 and copy directly from 1 to 2, the speed is only ~1.5MB/s. Why? How to fix that?
[14:18] <stix> This helped alot :) Thanks guys
[14:19] <northern_deer> jrib: software sources - updates - uncheck "proposed", right?
[14:19] <jrib> northern_deer:
[14:19] <jrib> northern_deer: yes
[14:19] <gafir> Hello, is there an issue with repository package download this morning?
[14:20] <gnomefreak> ganadist: try a different mirror
[14:20] <marco69> HI+
[14:20] <marco69> ÀÒPKÀÙÈPK
[14:20] <jrib> gafir: yes, lots of reports of slowness
[14:21] <pythonic> packages.medibuntu.org is hot
[14:21] <gnomefreak> ganadist: there does seem to be for me at least
[14:21] <wise_crypt> jrib: yes its very low
[14:21] <utente> salve
[14:21] <bazhang> !it | utente
[14:21] <gafir> jrib: thanks
[14:21] <jrib> gafir: what mirror are you using?
[14:22] <dsnyders> I would like a recommendation.  I want to run a few copies of Windows in virtual machines and have them talk to each other.  Which virtual machine software should I use?
[14:22] <gafir> well i supposed us.archive.ubuntu.com
[14:22] <utente> ma io ho l'italiano
[14:22] <jrib> #
[14:22] <jrib> gafir: you may have better luck with a local mirror
[14:22] <dsnyders> utente, This is an english language chat.
[14:22] <gafir> jrib: i'll check it out
[14:22] <gafir> jrib: thanks
[14:22] <wise_crypt> jrib: i use local mirror but its also laging
[14:22] <gafir> jrib: I was just trying to download/install cowsay anyway :-) So it's not like a top emergency thing
[14:23] <northern_deer> jrib: don't you know how to get rid of fglrx at last?
[14:23] <jrib> wise_crypt: that's pretty strange
[14:23] <jrib> northern_deer: does downgrading it work?
[14:23] <geirha> dsnyders: Whichever you prefer. VirtualBox is a fairly easy one and the open source edition is in the repos.
[14:23] <pythonic> so ubuntu uses upstart
[14:24] <northern_deer> jrib: down... what? :)
[14:24] <jrib> northern_deer: sudo apt-get install fglrx=2:8.723.1-0ubuntu3
[14:24] <dsnyders> geirha, so they will all let me "network" the virtual machines together?
[14:25] <geirha> dsnyders: I would be surprised if any of them didn't.
[14:25] <pythonic> ok, say i have an /etc/init.d/iptables script on debian that starts after the "ifupdown" script and before the "networking" script. how do i configure that on ubuntu?
[14:25] <geirha> dsnyders: In virtualbox you go to the network tab of the vm and set it to "internal" net (or something along those lines)
[14:25] <wrksx> what's the best method to have a service automatically started on boot ?
[14:26] <jrib> wrksx: what service?
[14:26] <franz_see> how can i find out the default encoding used by the machine i am ssh'd to?
[14:26] <wrksx> jrib, qmail
[14:26] <frank1e> what's uppp
[14:27] <jrib> wrksx: if it doesn't already startup automatically when you install it, /msg ubottu startup
[14:27] <wrksx> jrib, I have a script, qmailctl which accept {start|stop|restart|doqueue|flush|reload|stat|pause|cont|cdb|queue|help}
[14:27] <wrksx> jrib, it's hand compiled and won't start automatically, according to the docs
[14:28] <jrib> northern_deer: I have to leave now, if that doesn't work.  Explain to the channel your issue again nad what we have done so far
[14:28] <northern_deer> jrib: thanks
[14:28] <xomp> is there anyway to see what errors may be hiding in crontab? I thought I had a cronjob setup to run a few .sh scripts to backup my SQL databases every night but there's no dumps and I honestly don't think anything is getting ran in cron!
[14:29] <jrib> wrksx: /msg ubottu startup    then.  You'll likely either want to create an upstart job, use /etc/rc.local, or, if you can find one already created (so creating an upstart job would be more work), use an old sysv-init-style script (I have to go now)
[14:29] <NeanT> i keep getting this error.. "Unable to connect to archive.ubuntu.com:http: [IP: 91.189.88.40 80]".. even after the apt-get update..
[14:29] <jrib> xomp: setup local mail, you'll get mail from cron.  Or just redirect the output in your cronjob somewhere
[14:29] <ntr0py> Dr_Willis: i got it working somehow: i replaced /usr/sbin/gdm-binary with a shellscript delaying the execution of /usr/sbin/gdm-binary.real (which i renamed the original /usr/sbin/gdm-binary to)... so I suspect there indeed is a race in upstart between  dkms/nvidia and gdm which simply starts too early... this is a bug in lucid / upstart ??
[14:29] <dsnyders> geirha, Thanks.  I'll give virtualbox a try.  Although I may wait until tonight.  Sounds like there's issues with the repositories at the moment.
[14:30] <xomp> jrib, I think a local mail was setup, yet I know not how to access it heh
[14:30] <amee2k> arand: hmmm... now its freezing on boot :(
[14:30] <xomp> jrib, when logging into ssh I get "You have new mail.
[14:30] <xomp> "
[14:31] <jrib> xomp: type "mail", or if you want something fancier, use mutt
[14:31] <xomp> -bash: mail: command not found
[14:31] <pericles> I run ubuntu 10.04, and the look of my Empathy status icons are the old one, with the green dot and the red triangle, How can I put the new ones ?
[14:31] <frank1e> how you guys doin
[14:31] <pericles> anyone help me plz ?
[14:32] <frank1e> hey what are some good irc channels / websites for finding out about new linux apps
[14:32] <jrib> xomp: bsd-mailx provides it for me
[14:32] <rambo3> !e17
[14:32] <wrksx> Hey, I need to have my MTA started automatically on startup, I'm on ubuntu, and got no GUI. I already got a script wich permits to control the server: qmailctl {start|stop|restart|doqueue|flush|reload|stat|pause|cont|cdb|queue|help}
[14:33] <wrksx> what can I do ?
[14:33] <frank1e> hey guys i got a question. i'm pretty sure the answer is no but i wanna check. i got in the starcraft 2 beta today and i was wondering if sc2 might possibly work in wine?
[14:34] <bazhang> frank1e, check the appdb and ask in #winehq
[14:34] <amee2k> frank1e: the wine dev guys have a pretty large database of stuff that is known/not known to work
[14:34] <bazhang> !appdb | frank1e
[14:34] <amee2k> what bazhang said :)
[14:34] <wrksx> !init.d
[14:34] <frank1e> umm what is !appdb sorry im new to ubuntu
[14:34] <Pici> frank1e: look at ubottu's response to you above.
[14:34] <bazhang> http://appdb.winehq.org frank1e
[14:34] <ntr0py> Does anyone here knows how i can modify upstart job for gdm??
[14:34] <frank1e> !appdb
[14:34] <bazhang> frank1e, /join #winehq
[14:35] <frank1e> thanks guys
[14:35] <amee2k> you're welcome :)
[14:35] <frank1e> btw ubuntu kicks ass
[14:35]  * amee2k nods
[14:35] <frank1e> i installed it about 2 weeks ago and the first night i was hooked i can't believe how bad it trarshes windows
[14:35] <amee2k> hehe
[14:35] <wise_crypt> !ot > frank1e
[14:35] <frank1e> i've got my desktop all tweaked out it's fun =)
[14:35] <amee2k> been using it since 6.something
[14:36] <frank1e> you know any good places to find out about new apps for ubuntu?
[14:36] <amee2k> upgrading across versions however usually screws up a couple minor features each time
[14:36] <frank1e> and maybe some good tricks for speeding it up amd tweaking it?
[14:37] <frank1e> man it's incredible it really beats windows in every way
[14:37] <amee2k> i think that was the general idea, yes ;)
[14:37] <mikedub_> are the repos ridiculous slow for everyone else?
[14:37] <tbic> In ubuntu when I install a package it's deps get intstall. but when I remove the package the deps do not get removed. how do I remove the deps?
[14:37] <OleJon> When I put my computer to suspend, and then wakes it up, Empathy (Indicator Applet Session) is set to away. I guess it sets the status to away before doing a suspend or something, but I don't want it to do that. How can I disable auto away when suspending?
[14:38] <ntr0py> !upstart | ntr0py
[14:38] <wise_crypt> mikedub_: yes for me
[14:38] <amee2k> tbic: try sudo aptitude remove ...
[14:38] <amee2k> that works for me at least
[14:38] <amee2k> iirc that graphical package manager does it too
[14:39] <amee2k> but i didn't use that in a year or so
[14:39] <wise_crypt> amee2k: sudo apt-get remove
[14:39] <amee2k> wise_crypt: iirc that doesn't automatically remove auto-installed dependencies
[14:39] <amee2k> which is what tbic desires ;)
[14:40] <mikedub_> wise_crypt: where are you geographically?
[14:40] <wise_crypt> amee2k: thats an urban legend
[14:40] <mikedub_> I'm in .ca
[14:40] <tbic> I'm looking from something like emerge --prune
[14:40] <mikedub_> trying to figure out if it's local
[14:41] <mikedub_> because, of course, i'm trying to set up a server in a time crunch
[14:41] <cAs> hi, does anyone how to reproduce quicktime videos on ubuntu?????
[14:41] <arand> amee2k: Well, it needs to load the whole CD to RAM, it will take a while...
[14:42] <Galerien> err, guys, what's the link that explain you how to change your screen resolution?
[14:42] <erUSUL> !fixres
[14:42] <xomp> jrib, I can't find any info on reading the email cron generates in SSH and I know I've done it before, so weird.
[14:42] <Galerien> thanks erUSUL
[14:43] <amee2k> arand: the cd drive is inactive. its spun down and i can even take out the disk
[14:43] <cAs> does anyone how to watch quicktime videos in ubuntu???
[14:43] <phylock> cAs - vlc player
[14:44] <arand> amee2k: Hmm, well in that case, maybe it failed, I'm not sure if there was a huge amount of testing done with the option, it was simply enabled, since a long-standing bug had been fixed which blocked it, might now work for your machine then :(
[14:44] <cAs> phylock, thank you. Theres no way watching it with gnome player?
[14:44] <Nvidiot> Hm. It gets weirder. Ubuntu 10.04 desktop does NOT see the disk in the partitioning tool. Server DOES, but seems to install the dmraid module to run it. The odd thing is: the drive is configured as IDE mode in the bios, not AHCI or RAID
[14:45] <amee2k> arand: i see. to be sure i checked the cd for defects but it came out fine.
[14:45] <amee2k> arand: i'll think up something different then... thanks for the hint though :)
[14:45] <pythonic> how do i configure a script to start before /etc/init.d/networking script?
[14:46] <DSpair> Anyone else having problems with the update sites this morning?
[14:46] <cornbrea1> Hey guys, I can't for the life of me find how to change the mirrors (besides editing sources.list) from the command line.  Is there a tool for that?  us.archive.ubuntu.com is resolving very slowly for me
[14:46] <masteris> Hi, i just installed WIn XP on virtual box, can anyone tell me how can i get in to share folders from ubuntu in to windows XP ?
[14:46] <Snadder> Anyone know how to configure apparmor?
[14:46] <phylock> cAs - im not sure, haven't tried
[14:46] <DSpair> Snadder: My suggestion: /etc/init.d/apparmor stop
[14:46] <amee2k> gotta run pick up some shit now. bbl
[14:47] <DSpair> !apparmor | Snadder
[14:47] <cAs> phylock, thank you, im gonna install it right now. Dyou think its the best music player?
[14:47] <levity_island> hi #ubuntu. #vmware suggested i ask this here: when i mount a usb device through vmware to an ubuntu guest, what's the device file?
[14:47] <Snadder> DSpair, I whould like to learn abit more about it.. how to configure event support for mysql with apparmor.. cant be that hard.
[14:48] <frank1e> hey guys i'm wondering how i can get info on what program i would need or how to edit / modify the bottom bar that lists open windows..  and not with prefgerences
[14:48] <DSpair> Snadder: See the link above and look at section 3.4
[14:48] <bove> My system monitor reports 100% cpu usage cycling back and forth between CPU1 and CPU2, but No processes are reported to use that much cpu. Anyone what what it means?
[14:48] <frank1e> what program do they use to design them
[14:48] <phylock> cAs - its a movie player, not a music player
[14:48] <scunizi> levity_island: you mean.. where is it mounted in the ubuntu guest?
[14:48] <levity_island> scunizi: yeah
[14:49] <cAs> phylock, ye i know, it was a mistake hehe. Anyway, do you think ts the best?
[14:49] <levity_island> i.e. when i go to do "mount /dev/foo /mnt/usbkey", what is "foo"
[14:49] <fanti> hello! after the last dist-upgrade a few days ago, my network interfaces do not configure automatically. 'sudo service network-interfaces start' reports an error: start: Unknown parameter: INTERFACE
[14:49] <sinistrad> I'm having trouble getting my screen resolution to remain persistent between reboots. I've put in an xrandr command in /etc/gdm.. and also checked xorg.conf, and it shows my monitor and the resolution it should be, but it starts up gnome at the wrong resolution.
[14:50] <scunizi> levity_island: you can open a terminal and type sudo mount .. which should respond with everything that is mounted and where.
[14:50] <phylock> cAs - it play anything, even if there is errors in the file there is a good chance its able to play it anyway
[14:50] <levity_island> scunizi: i don't think it was auto-mounted -- i have a minimal server install
[14:51] <Venkat> Hi
[14:51] <Venkat> I need some help using DNN on Ubuntu
[14:51] <cAs> phylock: ok thanks!! :)
[14:51] <phylock> cAs - but they could do somthing with the design :/
[14:51] <Slart> Venkat: DNN?
[14:52] <Venkat> hi Slart
[14:52] <Slart> hello Venkat
[14:52] <scunizi> levity_island: if it didn't auto mount you might be able to force it with sudo mount -a .. I'm not sure what the "foo" should be.
[14:52] <koshie_> hi
[14:52] <cAs> phlyock: well for me the priority right now is being able to watch a quicktime video so if VLC can do it, PERFECT! :)
[14:53] <Venkat> DNN menu generates a different html in Firefox on Ubuntu
[14:53] <kiamo> has anyone here got qq to work in empathy?  I get an authentication fail, but I know my username and password are correct.
[14:54] <caron> good morning! Anyone good with triaging a new Ubuntu 10.04 user trying to get their ATI card up and running properly?
[14:54] <Venkat> and i dont see any CSS for that to display drop down for DNN menu
[14:55] <levity_island> scunizi: ah, i found it by looking in "dmesg"; it was /dev/sdb1
[14:55] <nub_cakes> anyone know of any issues with the archive servers? I can't seem to download from them
[14:55] <nub_cakes> specifically us.archive.ubuntu.com
[14:56] <Pici> nub_cakes: They're currently under a bit of load from the updates
[14:56] <scunizi> levity_island: I was just googling and there is a program for servers you can install called "usbmount" .. which will automount your usb devices.
[14:56] <ntr0py> Where is the nvidia proprietary driver started (upstart)?
[14:56] <nub_cakes> Pici: anyway I could change sources.list to point somewhere else under less load?
[14:57] <Pici> nub_cakes: System>Administration>Software Sources has a tool to change the server easily.
[14:57] <nub_cakes> Pici: ubuntu server
[14:57] <Pici> nub_cakes: Or you could use https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors to find a faster mirror :)
[14:57] <Venkat> Hi Does any one work on DotNetNUke
[14:57] <nub_cakes> that's what I was looking for. thank you :)
[14:58] <rizwan> try to enable .net  libs in ubuntu.. then try DNN
[14:59] <data> i am trying to use the alternate install cd. but whatever I try, all I get is a blank screen
[14:59] <brodie> what would cause service to tell me "reload: Unknown instance:" when i do service ssh reload? /etc/init.d/ssh reload works fine
[15:00] <data> same when I do "Check disk for defects". But I checked the md5sum of the burned disk, which was correct
[15:01] <Slart> brodie: I thought those two command were just alias.. ie they run the same thing.. or?
[15:01] <brodie> Slart: google tells me only "start" is implemented for the service command
[15:01] <brodie> so i guess that answers my question. invoke-rc.d works
[15:01] <sbad> is this the right channel to ask for some tech help?
[15:02] <Slart> brodie: odd.. I thought service was supposed to replace the /etc/init.d/ thingy
[15:02] <Sandking1> hello
[15:02] <Sandking1> any Ardour users here?
[15:02] <Nvidiot> Anyone know why Ubuntu is using dmraid to interact with my harddisk when it's not configured as RAID in the bios? (Motherboard: Asus P7P55D LE)
[15:03] <Sandking1> ah nvmnd
[15:03] <mcl0vin> am doing a checkinstall and i want the output to be in STDOut and append to a file , can i do 'checkinstall >> ~checkinstalllogfilename
[15:04] <ulkn> data: they put the "splash" and "quiet" options on the boot command line, so you can less easily see where it stops. but you can remove those options (arrow keys, backspace)
[15:04] <data> ulkn: i did, same result
[15:04] <data> I get the logging output about my disk, then the screen blankens
[15:04] <sbad> would any one know why a boot up hangs on the message: Data: clean, */* files, */* blocks
[15:05] <sbad> ?
[15:05] <selenia> I have a very weird problem with an old pc with i810 graphics. It works fine with the original Ubuntu user, but if I create any new accounts, then I will get lockup messages about drm when starting gdm, and it will crash back to login screen
[15:05] <selenia> restarting gdm I should say
[15:05] <JohnSmith> hello all
[15:05] <mcl0vin> am doing a checkinstall and i want the output to be in STDOut and append to a file , can i do 'checkinstall >> ~checkinstalllogfilename
[15:05] <selenia> the additional users can be logged into from cli just fine
[15:06] <sbad> or does anyone have a solution to the: ubuntu /init: line 7: can't open /dev/sr0 issue?
[15:06] <ikonia> sbad: it means you don't have a cdrom in the drive
[15:06] <BluesKaj-Laptop> howdy
[15:07] <ulkn> data: other than trying the boot options that turn off features (e.g. acpi=off), i don't know
[15:07] <selenia> Does anyone have a solution to this either? I posted this in a big forum-over 30 uniqs, no replies
[15:07] <sbad> ikonia: why would I need one?
[15:08] <guest205> can anyone confirm that the vlc package for Ubuntu 10.04 is missing vlc-plugin-alsa
[15:08] <selenia> so, in other words, X only locks up with additional gnome users-not the original gnome user. However, the additional users can be logged into from anything else, like an xterm
[15:09] <ulkn> selenia: do the users have differing group memberships? check the output of the  id  command
[15:10] <selenia> I checked that, the additional ones seem to be added to all the relevant groups
[15:10] <selenia> including video
[15:10] <BluesKaj-Laptop> selenia, the new user should install libdvdcss2 from medibuntu and perhaps ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:10] <DSpair> selenia: There is an open issue with this for Lucid.
[15:10] <ulkn> selenia: "relevant"? the memberships should be _identical_
[15:10] <selenia> I can't even login to the new user from gnome
[15:10] <selenia> I get the res change
[15:10] <selenia> then it crashes back to gdm login
[15:10] <guest205> can anyone confirm that the vlc package for Ubuntu 10.04 is missing vlc-plugin-alsa?
[15:11] <Slart> guest205: hang on.. let me check
[15:11] <selenia> I mean I checked all the groups that seem related to video issues
[15:11] <selenia> and they all checked out fine
[15:11] <sbad> my computer was working fine last night, then this morning it hangs on bootup saying:
[15:11] <sbad> Data: recovering journal
[15:11] <sbad> Data: clean, */* files, */* blocks
[15:11] <guest205> Slart: ok, thanks
[15:11] <DSpair> selenia: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/546578
[15:13] <Kingfisher> How can I switch between windows within a tightvnc session? alt tab switches windows on my client machine..not the server
[15:13] <sbad> so I tried to use a live USB to see if i can mount my drives, but then I get the /dev/srX missing
[15:13] <pythonic> how do i configure a script to start before the /etc/init.d/networking script?
[15:13] <Slart> guest205: vlc-nox has /usr/lib/vlc/audio_output/libalsa_plugin.so  .. I think the vlc package is just the video stuff for X
[15:13] <selenia> DSpair my issue seems a bit different,. It seems it actually crashes and goes back to login screen
[15:13] <guest205> Slart: ok, i'll try that package
[15:13] <selenia> gnome-screensaver does not even get a cgance to display the screensaver
[15:14] <guest205> Slart: vlc-nox is already the newest version.
[15:14] <BluesKaj-Laptop> there are also some probs with aptitude not responding on the desktop...had to update/upgrade from the tty ...switched to apt-get at the tty to update/upgrade and that solved the prob
[15:14] <DSpair> selenia: OK, wish I could have been more helpful
[15:14] <Slart> guest205: then you should have alsa support.. what version of vlc do you have installed?
[15:15] <Slart> guest205: I've got 1.0.6 Goldeneye
[15:15] <dum> can anyone tell me the meaning of  --> insmod: error inserting 'xx.ko' : -1 invalid module format
[15:15] <selenia> DSpair it's ok. Just wish I could solve this thing because I can't imagine what's wrong with an unused user that is not wrong with my main user
[15:15] <selenia> my main user works 100% of the time
[15:16] <guest205> Slart: i have 1.0.6 Goldeneye also
[15:16] <data> ulkn: i tried all of those, no change
[15:16] <Slart> guest205: and in tools, plugins and extensions there is no "ALSA audio output" listed?
[15:17] <martian> selenia: Do you have a file in you rhome directory called .xprofile?
[15:17] <selenia> yes, that machine does.
[15:18] <selenia> I can ssh in if you need
[15:18] <guest205> Slart: its displaying, guess its not showing in the gui
[15:18] <dum> can anyone tell me the meaning of  --> insmod: error inserting 'xx.ko' : -1 invalid module format
[15:18] <martian> selenia: Then I would suspect that something in your xprofile is enabling your user to work
[15:18] <guest205> Slart: is it showing up for you in the Stream  Capture Devices drop-down?
[15:19] <jMCg> dum: dmesg probably can.
[15:19] <Slart> guest205: preferences, audio,  Output type doesn't list it?
[15:19] <jMCg> dum: probably means wrong endianness, wrong platform, wrong kernel version.
[15:19] <selenia> my bad, the file doesn't exist on that machine
[15:19] <selenia> good thing I sshed to check
[15:19] <Slart> guest205: ehm.. nope.. but that's for video.. I think
[15:19] <martian> selenia: bummer, I thought that could have been what's causing the difference
[15:20] <Slart> guest205: are we talking about alsa output or input? I kind of assumed you meant output
[15:20] <guest205> Slart: how do i stream the audio from alsa://hw, the #videolan people think its an ubuntu issue
[15:20] <dum>  jMCg: it's a driver module i'm compiled on another machine (running hardy )
[15:20] <selenia> it happens on a totally new install. sudo service gdm restart causes lots of buffer reclaim and lockup messages after logging into new users
[15:20] <kiamo> are there any QQ users in here at the moment?
[15:20] <selenia> any new user
[15:20] <jMCg> dum: 14:19 < jMCg> dum: probably means wrong endianness, wrong platform, wrong kernel version.
[15:20] <selenia> new user accoubnt I mean
[15:20] <dum> jMCg: so do you suggest i compile it on this new machine
[15:21] <Kingfisher> How can I switch between windows within a tightvnc session? alt tab switches windows on my client machine..not the server
[15:21] <sowhat_21>  i did my updates now. i saw a new linux version. i restrt my computer. but i dont know if i am using the new linux kernel or not ? how can i leanr it ?
[15:21] <guest205> Start: whatever it would require to stream, if i can hear the line-in on alsa://hw, its an input or output issue?
[15:21] <sowhat_21> *learn
[15:21] <jMCg> dum: what, exactly, does dmesg say?
[15:22] <dum> dmesg: can you please tell me the meaning of  --> insmod: error inserting 'xx.ko' : -1 invalid module format
[15:23] <BluesKaj-Laptop> sowhat_21, run uname -a in the terminal
[15:23] <frank1e> hey guyys
[15:23] <sowhat_21> BluesKaj-Laptop: 2.6.32-22-generic it is the latest ?
[15:23] <selenia> o9h and these are the only directories when user is first created from cli .bash_logout  .bashrc  examples.desktop	.profile
[15:24] <selenia> doing it from cli does not help either
[15:24] <BluesKaj-Laptop> sowhat_21, which ubuntu ?
[15:24] <sowhat_21> 10.04.
[15:24] <frank1e> Can someone help me with a quick problem? I use compiz settings to embed a terminal in my desktop but I also want to embed my buddy list on the desktop and i dont know the syntax to add another window in compiz
[15:24] <frank1e> example title=frank1e term << being the window name
[15:24] <tdn> What should I use to easily create simple sequence diagrams like UMLs Message Sequence Diagrams?
[15:24] <frank1e> how do i add a second window
[15:25] <frank1e> like title=frank1e term, Buddy List?]
[15:25] <BluesKaj-Laptop> sowhat_21, yes
[15:25] <frank1e> If anyone has any idea plz help
[15:25] <sowhat_21> BluesKaj-Laptop: ok tahnks!
[15:25] <mcl0vin> what is [93011.621110] in [93011.621110] atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e001 <keycode>' to make it known. from dmesg please?
[15:26] <dum> jMCg: thanks.. i simply needed to rebuild the module
[15:26] <selenia> would trying to load a failsafe gnome session do me any good, does anyone think?
[15:26] <josmala_> hmmm. lucid seems to lack package that installs sun java. Is there a repository where I can get it with apt-get?
[15:26] <sowhat_21> Im going to buy a new laptop with windows 7 home. i can install inside it ubuntu without killing the guarantee??
[15:27] <martian> sowhat_21: That's up to whomever you're buying it from
[15:27] <martian> sowhat_21: No way we could know
[15:27] <ulkn> data: sorry the alternate install cd is broken for you. does another cd work for you? if so, it wasn't your fault
[15:27] <jMCg> dum: can you give me an uname -a of both servers, please?
[15:28] <selenia> sowhat_21 I would try wubi. Then they can't say you removed the supported software. Just boot into Win7 when it's time for service
[15:28] <sowhat_21> martian: they told me that it is possible if you recover your windows after insatall linux...
[15:28] <selenia> wubi resides as simply a large ntfs file
[15:28] <selenia> no partitioning
[15:28] <sowhat_21> martian: but im worrying to do not recover windows again...
[15:28] <data> ulkn: the normal install cd works. But since my system broke with the update to lucid, i kind of needed the functionality on the alternate cd
[15:28] <assoupis> part
[15:29] <_6i> josmala_: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-install-sun-java-runtime-environment-jre-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx.html
[15:29] <data> this is _old_ (5 years) hardware. So I don't think that this is some kind of drive issue
[15:29] <data> driver
[15:30] <pip> Hello, when booting, I got Error: out of partition, I guess I lose my grub on MBR, or it is broken, so how to fix it ?
[15:31] <dum> jMCg: who is dmeg?
[15:31] <dum> jMCg: can't find dmeg
[15:31] <Paddy_NI> !grub | pip
[15:31] <wise_crypt> !grub2 | pip
[15:31] <kevin__> yalu
[15:31] <pip> Paddy, it's grub2 right ?
[15:31] <jMCg> dum: man dmesg
[15:31] <Paddy_NI> yep
[15:31] <kevin__> nop
[15:32] <dum> k.. thanks
[15:32] <selenia> oh and whoever wants to help, this Fedora bug is much more like what I'm getting, only I'm not getting it on the original user account. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524701
[15:32] <pip> Paddy_NI, Now, I'm in the live Ubuntu
[15:32] <selenia> Rehat bug I mean
[15:32] <selenia> blah
[15:32] <Paddy_NI> pip, ah cool then it is pretty straight forward from there
[15:32] <kevin__> i am already in the hardrive
[15:32] <stepv> I use Ubuntu(YLMF)
[15:32] <pip> from the web page ?
[15:33] <Paddy_NI> pip, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Recover Grub 2 via LiveCD
[15:33] <erxyz> I try to install a distro of ubuntu, but i get the error: "getpwuid_r(): failed due to unknown user id", anybody know how to fix that?
[15:33] <ulkn> data: a lot of people seem to be complaining about regressions in 10.04. keep in mind, free systems other than ubuntu exist, some of them employing a kernel other than linux
[15:33] <Paddy_NI> pip, that link did not copy over properly
[15:33] <stepv> I am chinese,everybody ,how are u
[15:33] <Paddy_NI> pip, go to the grub2 wiki and click "Recover Grub 2 via LiveCD"
[15:34] <pip> Paddy_NI, thank you, buddy
[15:34] <Pici> selenia: If you're trying to get enough information to log a bug on launchpad, you might be able to get more help in #ubuntu-bugs
[15:34] <acicula> erxyz, what version are you installing and at what point are you getting the error
[15:34] <Paddy_NI> pip, no probs.. any troubles give me a shout
[15:34] <corporatecookie> im looking for Ubuntu's equivalent of the failure function found in Redhat's /etc/init.d/functions anyone know where it could be hiding : )
[15:34] <selenia> Pici: I want to make sure it's not something dumb on my system first
[15:34] <selenia> I tried the Ubuntu supplied drivers and 2 other versions
[15:35] <rad4Christ> Good morning all. I have a quick question. I'm rolling out a lab using LTSP in a school district, and I was wondering if there's a way to push the netbook-remix desktop to the clients?
[15:35] <selenia> all work on main account but not any I add
[15:35] <carsonb> hi all. quick question: I'm looking for the linux-image-debug-generic metapackage. Is that no longer in the repositories?
[15:35] <erxyz> acicula: I am trying to install Lubuntu since my laptop is quite old, i choose language, choose intall, then the logo apears and loading dots, then it shows error and screen goes black and nothing happens
[15:35] <acicula> selenia, then its more likely a permissions issue somewhere, not a driver issue?
[15:35] <rad4Christ> I've successfully faked it to the point that it's ALMOST identical, but the title bar isn't on the panel.
[15:36] <SuperMiguel> i have about 600 pictures in a folder, what command can i use for it to show me the name of the files that are bigger than 5MB??
[15:36] <Guest64141> mommy kelly
[15:36] <kelly> uigi
[15:36] <Guest64141> ala kapa t.o?
[15:36] <acicula> erxyz, tried the rescue mode and then loading X? did previous versions work?
[15:36] <kelly> uigi.... twag kna...
[15:36] <Pici> !ph | kelly Guest64141
[15:37] <Guest64141> momy kelly ala pa to
[15:37] <acicula> erxyz, what graphics card do you have(or what processor/ardware in general) ?
[15:37] <erxyz> haven't tried with previous versions, normal Ubuntu worked however
[15:37] <erxyz> (karmic koala)
[15:37] <acicula> Super_Cat_Frog1, ls or find should be able to do that
[15:37] <mcl0vin> 4813
[15:37] <wad> Why I alt-tab to switch between apps, my switcher appears randomly on one of my two monitors. I'd rather it just stuck to one of them. (Using the compiz ring switcher.) Anyone here solve this problem?
[15:38] <iiiii> ls -lhS
[15:38] <Galerien> Pici : what does "ph" sand for? I mean, what language/country ?
[15:38] <sereal> how do I know what version of ubuntu i'm running?
[15:38] <c-c-c-combo> s
[15:38] <c-c-c-combo> l
[15:38] <c-c-c-combo> o
[15:38] <c-c-c-combo> w
[15:38] <FloodBot1> c-c-c-combo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:38] <c-c-c-combo> p
[15:39] <acicula> sereal, lsb_release -a in a console
[15:39] <iiiii> supermiguel try 'ls -lhS'
[15:39] <selenia> <acicula quite possibly, but where it would be is the question. It happens the first time I try and log into a new user account
[15:39] <corin_> how do I set sgid flag for a directory?
[15:39] <karyo> are there any ubuntu packager/developers around?
[15:39] <Pici> Galerien: Philippines
[15:39] <Galerien> Pici: ok, thank
[15:40] <Galerien> +s
[15:40] <c-c-c-combo> s
[15:40] <c-c-c-combo> l
[15:40] <c-c-c-combo> o
[15:40] <c-c-c-combo> w
[15:40] <c-c-c-combo> p
[15:40] <FloodBot1> c-c-c-combo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:40] <c-c-c-combo> o
[15:40] <acicula> selenia, not a clue :/ new users are added with different permissions though
[15:40] <kelly> kakaiba toh.. ah..
[15:40] <selenia> it's like I'm only allowed 1 user account on that machine, otherwise X crashes
[15:40] <selenia> I tried making one of the new users an administrator
[15:40] <karyo> no packagers/devs here?
[15:40] <selenia> still no love
[15:40] <selenia> if that's what you're referring to
[15:41] <Pici> karyo: Is there something you need specifically? If you explain a little I may be able to suggest a channel for you.
[15:41] <erxyz> acicula, is that error a known issue?
[15:41] <acicula> is what a known issue
[15:41] <karyo> hello Pici i'm trying to contribute, but I don't have any applicable skills
[15:41] <erxyz> that error
[15:42] <spacebug-> hi! where can I find and change the default mount options for udev? (When I plug in my usd hard drive "My Passport" is mounts it with utf8 but I would like to change that (and all other usb-devices to default iso8859-1)
[15:42] <karyo> i've got a lot of awareness and general knowledge though]
[15:42] <disappearedng> Hey I normally store all my info in ~/data, then somehow ecryptfs has been reporting some weird problems and now my ~/data disappeared. Is there a correlation?
[15:42] <acicula> erxyz, not that i know off
 check out this bug in Rehat. I didn't find any6thing like it in launchpad, but those are my symptoms on any but my main account
[15:42] <karyo> i was planning to join a team but can't pick if I should go for triagers or motu
[15:42] <selenia> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524701
[15:42] <wad> I installed a daemon to try out, but I don't want it to launch automatically every time I start up my laptop. I can just remove the entries from rc?.d but that will make it tricky to put back later. Is there a Right Way to do this?
[15:42] <Pici> karyo: Well, theres #ubuntu-motu for packaging, #ubuntu-devel for general development, also #ubuntu-app-devel and #ubuntu-community-team for community stuff.
[15:42] <kiamo> how do I embed a terminal into my desktop with compiz?
[15:42] <acicula> wad, update-rc.d
[15:42] <sbad> I'm trying to boot off a pendrive, but when I tgry to boot up I am getting the error: /init line 7: can't open /dev/sr0: No medium found
[15:42] <disappearedng> anyone here familiar with ecryptfs?
[15:43] <acicula> to manage the links in rc?.d
[15:43] <wad> acicula, thanks!
[15:43] <erxyz> It is wierd since the newest Ubuntu worked to install, but it was quite slow since PC is old
[15:43] <loopidity> how do I make bash_history record the date time as well
[15:43] <karyo> Pici : Thx!
[15:43] <hagedorn> want to remove unclean logout iscsi volumes from lvm : anyone know :  /dev/VG_XenStorage-fcb20fe0-f221-68b2-a57e-0a10469155f6/VHD-7462c695-7150-4883-b584-c6c328eeecc2: read failed after 0 of 4096 at 0: Input/output error
[15:43] <acicula> disappearedng, do you still have a data directory? is ecryptfs mounted?
[15:43] <acicula> (what error are you getting)
[15:44] <vmf007> can't boot to 10.04 after a fresh install. Get BusyBox v1.13.3 error     please help!!!
[15:44] <disappearedng> acicula: well I still have .Private, but everything within it is named ENCRYPTED_XXX ..
[15:44] <disappearedng> no I do not have ~/data
[15:44] <acicula> disappearedng, yeah thats your encrypted data
[15:44] <acicula> if you are seeing that the ecryptfs failed to mount
[15:45] <disappearedng> it said that ~ has been umounted to prevent data loss
[15:45] <acicula> yeah thats your home directory
[15:45] <disappearedng> but then I can't even log into nautilus because of ~ was not accessible so I chmod it to 755 and then started nautilus
[15:45] <disappearedng> ok acicula what can I do ?
[15:45] <ldlework> Why can't I connect to the update servers and recieve updates? I get 0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (91.189.88.46)] indefinately
[15:46] <acicula> IdleOne_, might just be busy
[15:46] <vmf007>  can't boot to 10.04 after a fresh install. Get BusyBox v1.13.3 error     please help!!!
[15:46] <wad> acicula, update-rc.d wanted to remove the entry in init.d too, which I wanted to keep. So I just removed the rc?.d entries by hand. *shrug*
[15:46] <selenia> well thanks anyways. I wish I could get more info on what is happening, but perhaps that part of GNOME is broken-maybe try XFCE for that machine
[15:46] <disappearedng> acicula: how do i unecrypt my entire ~/.Private directory?
[15:46] <acicula> wad, afaik it just removes the links in rc. but ok
[15:47] <disappearedng> could it be that ~/.Private will hold my ~/data file?
 try <sudo apt-get update>
[15:47] <acicula> disappearedng, .Private holds your entire home directory in encrypted form
[15:47] <Pici> ldlework: The servers are under quite a bit of load due to the OOo update. Please be patient or try another mirror.
[15:47] <acicula> that is if you elected to use an encrypted home directory
[15:47] <acicula> !ecryptfs
[15:48] <vmf007>  can't boot to 10.04 after a fresh install. Get BusyBox v1.13.3 error     please help!!!
[15:48] <Spyzer> i am using avant windows navigator and bcoz of it i removed the main panel. There was one more panel left ( which has the trash can and workspace switcher by default). I set it to the top of screen and enabled the autohide option. Now after a reboot its not coming back to me
[15:48] <acicula> disappearedng, first, why did it fail to mount, how long is this the case, did you make any changes to the system, change your password, etc
[15:48] <Spyzer> i only have the avant navigator and not the gnome-panel
[15:49] <vmf007>  can't boot to 10.04 after a fresh install. Get BusyBox v1.13.3 error     please help!!!
[15:49] <acicula> disappearedng, also did you store the passphrase somewhere
[15:49]  * wise_crypt is having 10kB/s connection with his local repo too :(( hiks ...
[15:50] <vmf007>  can't boot to 10.04 after a fresh install. Get BusyBox v1.13.3 error     please help!!!
[15:50] <disappearedng> acicula: I reseted the password
[15:50] <Logick> Does anyone have advise on running Ubuntu from a memory stick?
[15:50] <acicula> disappearedng, how did you reset the password, and can you set it back to what it originally was?
[15:51] <Spyzer> okay i got the panel back. It was in the bottom hiding beneath the avant-navigator. But then the question is, why didn't it remember the settings
[15:51] <Spyzer> ?
[15:51] <dajhorn> Logick: Click System -> Administration -> Startup Disk Creator to put the Ubuntu iso onto a USB stick.
[15:51] <kermit> how do i get rid of these 2 little colord dots in corner of the new terminator?
[15:51] <acicula> disappearedng, also, did you store your passphrase somewhere
[15:52] <vmf007>  can't boot to 10.04 after a fresh install. Get BusyBox v1.13.3 error     please help!!!
[15:52] <acicula> as you'll need either one or the other to ever get back at your data
[15:52] <acicula> vmf007, at what point do you get the error?
[15:52] <martian> vmf007: oddly enough, it looks like you may need to boot into windows and shutdown properly... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1468277
[15:53] <vmf007> windows?
[15:53] <acicula> selenia, sorry i cant be of more help, maybe the logs tell you something more usefull, syslog/messages/x.log?
[15:53] <martian> vmf007: I dunoh, just reading what the thread said. Figured if you had the same problem then perhaps you had the same cause.
[15:54] <rafaelsoaresbr> at what ports does remote desktop listen to?
[15:54] <vmf007> I see the black screen with all the white letters at startup then right before 10.04 is about to load all the color stuff I get the error
[15:55] <butthead> what is said there&
[15:55] <wessel> hello, my sound it working but my sound icon has a red x   :   http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/5866/selection004o.jpg           what can cause this?
[15:55] <martian> vmf007: Have you used ubuntu/linux on this computer before? What type of hard drive is it installed on?
[15:56] <butthead> martian is it working on other OS?
[15:56] <martian> butthead: I'm not the one with the issue. vmf007 is.
[15:57] <vmf007> I had 9.04 but as soon as I updated to 10.04 I had the same problem
[15:57] <butthead> did you report a bug?
[15:57] <BluesKaj> wessel, usually an  X means muted
[15:57] <wessel> but its like the icon is stuck
[15:57] <wessel> because it is not muted
[15:59] <martian> vmf007: 'same problem'? So 9.04 had the same problem?
[15:59] <loopidity> adding HISTSIZE=2000 doest produce the desired result !
[15:59] <loopidity> added in the bash.bashrc file
[15:59] <BluesKaj> wessel, did you update since bootup?
[15:59] <vmf007> nope, it used to work fine, then upgraded to 9.10 just fine, then 10.04 is when it all started
[16:00] <BluesKaj> wessel,  update
[16:01] <Dr_Willis> loopidity:  you mean the '.bashrc' file ?
[16:01] <Bersam> Error: need a repository as argument
[16:01] <loopidity> /etc/bash.bashrc
[16:01] <Bersam> hi all where is the problem ?
[16:01] <falktx> hi guys
[16:01] <Bersam> bersam@bersam-desktop:~/Downloads/freedom-20100531-01$ sudo add-apt-repository deb http://archive.canonical.com/ lucid partner
[16:01] <Bersam> Error: need a repository as argument
[16:02] <Bersam> ?
[16:02] <martian> vmf007: does it say anything else before giving you the busybox error?
[16:02] <FloodBot1> Bersam: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:02] <falktx> where is the right place for ubuntu wine issues?
[16:02] <selenia> acicula I apoligize, byut we'll have tio work on this later. Something just came up
[16:02] <wessel> ow, I can not reboot my pc right now, I'm running a data analysis which is already running for 3 hours
[16:02] <selenia> \thanks anyways
[16:02] <rafaelsoaresbr> !nfs | me
[16:02] <Dr_Willis> loopidity:  its possible its getting set differntly by some other file. You could test it in your users configs
[16:02] <acicula> selenia, okies, gl ;)
[16:02] <vmf007> I typed the error but I need that software to convert it to a paste so I don't flood this screen with all my info
[16:03] <falktx> where is the right place for ubuntu wine issues?
[16:03] <Slart> falktx: here or in #winehq
[16:03] <falktx> #winehq doesn't help
[16:03] <falktx> this seems ubuntu specific
[16:03] <wessel> I'm browsing the ubuntu forums, and I notice many coffee beans there
[16:03] <martian> vmf007: yeah, I know it's "BusyBox v1.13.3" but does it say anything before it? Anything about devices failing, etc?
[16:03] <wessel> how is Ubuntu related to coffee?
[16:03] <Slart> falktx: it's stil the official wine support channel
[16:04] <Slart> falktx: then try asking here
[16:04] <falktx> it's probably a bug in the ubuntu wine package
[16:04] <martian> wessel: they're both brown?
[16:04] <corin_> wessel, ubuntu contains caffeine
[16:04] <falktx> (i tried ask there)
[16:04] <vmf007> what is the link to the webpage that converts my info into a link? so I can paste it here?
[16:04] <falktx> wine ALSA seems broken?
[16:05] <Dr_Willis> falktx:  theres some PPA versions of wine with experimental pulse audio patches
[16:05] <Pici> vmf007: You mean http://paste.ubuntu.com ?
[16:05] <Slart> !pastebin | vmf007
[16:05] <vmf007> let me try it
[16:05] <falktx> Dr_Willis: Slart: I need alsa midi
[16:05] <DrGrov> Hello everyone
[16:05] <falktx> I'll make a screenshot
[16:05] <Slart> falktx: I don't think alsa does midi.. I  might be wrong though
[16:05] <DrGrov> I installed E16 from the repos but it made my whole GNOME install go berserk on me
[16:06] <falktx> Slart: it does
[16:06] <DrGrov> How can I reinstall GNOME desktop without losing my settings etc. ?
[16:06] <loopidity> Dr_Willis thanks , had to edit .bashcr also, and the time stamp I am still getting 1234565487
[16:06] <falktx> Slart: and wine has support for it
[16:06] <vmf007> http://paste.ubuntu.com/446682/
[16:06] <vmf007> thanks ubottu
[16:06] <falktx> here's the issue:
[16:06] <falktx> http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/tmp/wine-alsa-empty.png
[16:07] <corin_> how do I set sgid flag for a directory?
[16:07] <falktx> it should be like this:
[16:07] <falktx> http://nedko.arnaudov.name/tmp/winemidi.png
[16:07] <martian> vmf007: Looks like this will help you then: http://computergyan.wordpress.com/2009/12/31/solving-the-busybox-black-screen-problem-in-grub2ubuntu9-10/
[16:07] <DrGrov> I can not even resize my windows anymore or do anything else either. So help is greatly appreciated. Not sure what made my install go like this, E16 made it wrong or?
[16:08] <Dr_Willis> DrGrov:  try alt-f2 and run 'metacity --replace'  to see if your window maanger crashed
[16:08] <DrGrov> Dr_Willis: I tried doing rebooting as well. Nothing seemed to help but trying now.
[16:08] <martian> vmf007: I wonder if simply redoing the install would be the best option though
[16:08] <vmf007> I have 10.04 will it still work?
[16:08] <vmf007> just did a fresh install
[16:09] <DrGrov> Dr_Willis: i can not use Alt F2 either
[16:09] <falktx> Dr_Willis: Slart: help?
[16:09] <DrGrov> Dr_Willis: I can not open a terminal either
[16:09] <Dr_Willis> DrGrov:  so what window manager did you tell gdm to startup? Gnome?
[16:09] <acicula> DrGrov, ctrl-alt-f1, export DISPLAY=:0;metacity --replace
[16:09] <DrGrov> Dr_Willis: yes, gnome. i remove e16 and the .e16 folder as well.
[16:09] <Slart> falktx: I'm searching.. I'll let you know if I find anything
[16:10] <falktx> Slart: thanks
[16:10] <Dr_Willis> DrGrov:  thats odd.  e16 really shoudent affect gnome at all.
[16:10] <acicula> that should start a working wm on your desktop
[16:10] <martian> vmf007: yeah, but you'll probably have to replace 'vmlinuz-2.6.31-16-generic' with 'vmlinuz-2.6.28-19-generic' or something like that
[16:10] <DrGrov> Dr_Willis: yes, tell me about it. it is perhaps because i run e16-gnome first. had some issues and removed it.
[16:11] <Dr_Willis> DrGrov:  as a test you could make a new user (from the console, sudo adduser testuser) and see if gnome works for them. if it does work. then you proberly just need to clean out some gnome settings for the broken user. IF its broken for the new user.. well thats deeper issues
[16:11] <DrGrov> Dr_Willis: one sec.
[16:11] <Dr_Willis> DrGrov:  You migjht need to reinstall the 'ubuntu-desktop' package
[16:11] <vmf007> is it a long procedure? in other words, should i come back later, or is it some thing quick that I can stay here while u are here?
[16:12] <DrGrov> Dr_Willis: i tried reinstalling that but no luck it seems.
[16:12] <DrGrov> Dr_Willis: i will try the test user now to see what happens
[16:12] <antivirtel> hello all, I dont know what happens, but every button went mad, and some of AWN's applet is crashed; I compiled GTK+ only ? can it make this problem?
[16:12] <loopidity> how to make bash history record time?
[16:12] <terry> In appearance how can I change the "visual effects" to "normal"or "extras".It cannot find the drivers
[16:13] <Dr_Willis> terry:  and what is your video card/chipset?
[16:13] <terry> VIA
[16:13] <Slart> falktx: I just tried installing the regular ubuntu repository wine and I get midi channels on my system
[16:13] <Dr_Willis> via makes a lot of different chipsets I recall :)
[16:13] <martian> vmf007: basically, you need to boot off the live CD, edit a file and replace the part where it says UUID=XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX with /dev/sda1
[16:13] <rafaelsoaresbr> how to mount an directory onto another in /etc/fstab?
[16:13] <Dr_Willis> !fstab | rafaelsoaresbr
[16:13] <falktx> Slart: ubuntu-wine ppa?
[16:14] <Slart> falktx: nope
[16:14] <terry> Where to get its drivers?
[16:14] <falktx> Slart: wine or wine1.2?
[16:14] <vmf007> I'll give it a shot, see u in a bit
[16:14] <Dr_Willis> terry:  what does 'lspci' say your card is exactly.
[16:14] <DrGrov> Dr_Willis: it is might strange. the settings are working out well for the 'testuser'
[16:14] <Slart> falktx: wine 1.1.42, I think the package was called wine 1.2 though
[16:15] <DrGrov> Dr_Willis: it looks like all my normal user buttons etc. are completely missing
[16:15] <falktx> Slart: i'll try a downgrade
[16:15] <terry> Whats "lspci"
[16:15] <gazal> need help regarding Drupal
[16:15] <gazal> nybody thr?
[16:15] <Dr_Willis> DrGrov:  Not really. :) sounds like your gnome sessions are messed up.  From the console,  You can login as your broken user and carefully reset the gnome settings by remioving various config files.. but what files.. well.. do you have any gnome settings you want to keep? or email? or anything special?
[16:15] <BluesKaj> list pci cards/hardware
[16:15] <Dr_Willis> terry:  a command you use in the terminal
[16:15] <gazal> is thr any DRUPAL user?
[16:16] <DrGrov> Dr_Willis: no email. just like to have my "current" look like it is :)
[16:16] <Dr_Willis> terry:  you need to give us more info then just 'via'  You could also install/run hwinfo  from the package manager ifyou wanted to
[16:16] <marys> gazal: state your problem and is anyone can help they will...
[16:16] <Slart> gazal: just ask your question.. with all the details needed.. if someone knows the answer they might help you
[16:16] <terry> whats "hwinfo"
[16:16] <BluesKaj> terry, list pci cards/hardware
[16:17] <DrGrov> Dr_Willis: preferably keep my applications and such though. firefox bookmarks and such intact would be nice.
[16:17] <rafaelsoaresbr> does ubuntu come with a vnc server?
[16:17] <pranay_09> i am unable to record using my microphone
[16:17] <terry> Where to get its drivers?
[16:17] <Dr_Willis> DrGrov:  no idea where thats saved. but the gnome settings are normally in .gnome  .gnome2 .gconf and .gconfd  (there may be others)    make a directory (called OLD-GNOME) and just move the dirs to it. and try logging in again.
[16:17] <Slart> rafaelsoaresbr: yes.. I think there is something called vino that handle desktop sharing and such
[16:17] <wessel> Is someone here familiar with text to speech software?
[16:17] <Dr_Willis> terry:  yet another program you can install and run to get hardware info.
[16:17] <Slart> rafaelsoaresbr: there's also other vnc servers you can install from the repos
[16:18] <terry> Whats that?
[16:18] <Dr_Willis> terry:  'via' makes a LOT of differnt chipsets and cards..
[16:18] <DrGrov> Dr_Willis: how about I reinstall the whole ubuntu-desktop again?
[16:18] <DrGrov> Dr_Willis: that helped last time I was having issues with KDE 4.x
[16:18] <Dr_Willis> DrGrov:  that WONT reset the users settings.. that why. :)
[16:18] <wessel> I wonder what is the current state of the art, are text to speech programs still doing bi phone synthesis?
[16:18] <terry> How to know whats mine?
[16:18] <Dr_Willis> DrGrov:  and if  the other user worked.. well that points to a  setting issue
[16:18] <BluesKaj> terry, a look at terminal commands at google-linux might help
[16:18] <ubutom> rafaelsoaresbr, or just install tightvncserver through software center
[16:19] <DrGrov> Dr_Willis: yeah, true. how if I make myself a new user and copy my whole /home to the new user?
[16:19] <Dr_Willis> terry:  install and run hwinfo and read the output. or look at the output of 'lspci' and see what it says about yoru video card
[16:19] <Dr_Willis> DrGrov:  that user wont have sudo rights.
[16:19] <Slart> wessel: I don't think "state of the art" is free.. neither beer nor speech.. the free ones can be pretty horrible
[16:19] <im63KG> how can I use freemarker?hey everybody
[16:19] <Dr_Willis> DrGrov:  its easy to reset the gnome settings. Just move/rename/delete a few dirs.. and it goes back to defaults
[16:19] <DrGrov> Dr_Willis: oh damn. this will become increasingly insane.
[16:19] <rafaelsoaresbr> Slart, ubutom: what is there in System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop ? VNC Server ?
[16:19] <martian> DrGrov: If you simply back up all your 'dotfiles' (files in your home directory that are hidden / begin with a . ) then all your settings will be backed up regardless
[16:19] <martianixor> something wrong with repositories anyone?
[16:20] <Dr_Willis> DrGrov:  takes me all of like.. 40 sec to reset  the settings.. (i do cheat and use the 'mc' file manager in the console)
[16:20] <BluesKaj> martian, the main server is very slow today
[16:20] <Slart> rafaelsoaresbr: I think that's the vino configuration.. they just don't call it vnc
[16:20] <_6i> hi, i would like to know, how come in lucid apt wont show me the 'ogre' source package, when i can find it on packages.ubuntu.com ( http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/lucid/ogre )?
[16:20] <BluesKaj> err martianixor
[16:20] <_6i> it's a source package, i tried  'sudo apt-get source ogre' while having enabled all repos in source mode too in /etc/apt/sources.list except the lucid-security
[16:20] <DrGrov> Dr_Willis: perhaps we can keep this as a PM? :) i am a slow boy today lol
[16:20] <marys> rafaelsoaresbr: vinagre
[16:20] <ubutom> I believe it'S a client rafaelsoaresbr , never used it to share my desktop, so I don't know if it's a full-grown vnc-server
[16:20] <martianixor> BluesKaj: thanks :-)
[16:21] <Dr_Willis> DrGrov:  move the .gnome* and .gconf* dirs to some other dir.. and try logging in. Its that simple.
[16:21] <LS1> Anyone know if its possible to switch a kvm switch from the os instead of pressing the button on the switch?
[16:21] <pranay_09> Dr_Willis: i am unable to record using microphone ,i have checked the mic in another comp
[16:21] <wessel> Slart, I think there are data driven speech synthesizers which are free, but they run on windows :-/
[16:21] <Pici> _6i: Seems to be working here, are you getting an error when you try?
[16:21] <loopidity> export HISTTIMEFORMAT='%h/%d - %H:%M:%S '
[16:21] <loopidity> i still get unix time format
[16:21] <Slart> wessel: ah.. I've only played with the linux ones.. didn't really search that much either, I must confess
[16:22] <rafaelsoaresbr> Slart, marys: so, does ubuntu include a "built-in" vnc server? I will try accessing it from a remote computer. thanks!
[16:22] <Slart> wessel: lets hope some of it trickles over to our side of the yard =)
[16:22] <popey> LS1: depends on the kvm, mine does by pressing scroll lock twice then the number of the screen to switch to, or scroll lock twice then an arrow
[16:22] <popey> LS1: mine beeps when i press scroll lock twice to acknowledge the keypresses
[16:22] <Slart> rafaelsoaresbr: I'm not sure if it's installed/enabled by default or if it installs when you enable it in the preferences
[16:23] <terry> installed hwinfo.How to check my VIA chipset details?
[16:23] <_6i> Pici: no, just the tab auto-completion doesn't show such a package - i i get ogre-* though
[16:23] <falktx> Slart: downgrading works - http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/tmp/wine-alsa-now.png
[16:23] <LS1> Popey, cool thanx
[16:23] <Pici> _6i: I'm not sure if the auto-complete knows about source package names
[16:23] <rafaelsoaresbr> Slart, I'm going to try using it. thanks man!
[16:23] <Slart> falktx: yay =)
[16:23] <Slart> rafaelsoaresbr: you're welcome
[16:23] <terry> Dr_Willis Please help
[16:24] <_6i> Pici: ok, then i try it just like that..
[16:24] <Dr_Willis> terry:  with what?
[16:24] <ubutom> rafaelsoaresbr, you will likely have to share the host manually every time, tightvncserver starts automatically on system boot
[16:24] <terry> installed hwinfo.How to check my VIA chipset details?
[16:24] <falktx> Slart: not yay
[16:24] <falktx> Slart: wine 1.2~rc2 is here
[16:24] <Dr_Willis> terry:  run 'hwinfo' and read its output...
[16:24] <falktx> Slart: and i can't use it
[16:24] <terry> How to run it?
[16:25] <marys> rafaelsoaresbr: yes, but you van also install x11server from software manager if you want.  Plus you need to make sure access like firewall, etc. is set up correctly.
[16:25] <falktx> Slart: they say wine recently chaned to openal implementation
[16:25] <falktx> *changed
[16:25] <lucenut> I am interested in a way to run Ubuntu at the same time as my windows.
[16:25] <lucenut> I have development environments running on my windows that I can't turn off. But I tried running Ubuntu in a VM using Virtualbox and it would only go to like 1024 pixels.
[16:25] <Slart> falktx: oh..but that shouldn't keep it from working with ubuntu.. or?
[16:25] <terry> How to run it!Dr_Willis
[16:26] <Slart> lucenut: like in a vm?
[16:26] <falktx> Slart: no
[16:26] <popey> lucenut: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/colinux-portable-ubuntu-for-windows/
[16:26] <Slart> !vm | lucenut
[16:26] <corin_> how do I set sgid flag for a directory?
[16:26] <lucenut> Are other virtual environments better? I was hoping to just run it fullscreen and be able to almost forget about the windows running.
[16:26] <falktx> Slart: but i just need to find another solution
[16:26] <terry> Dr_Willis Please help
[16:26] <_6i> Pici: i see, now the 'gpgv: Can't check signature: public key not found
[16:26] <Dr_Willis> terry:  linux 101 ' open a terminal. type a commands name .. hit enter.
[16:26] <_6i> dpkg-source: warning: failed to verify signature on ./ogre_1.6.4.dfsg1-1.dsc' lines suggest something.. :D
[16:26] <marys> lucenut: install Sun/Oracle Virtual Box.
[16:26] <Slart> corin_: chmod?
[16:26] <Dr_Willis> !manual | terry
[16:26] <BluesKaj> !dual boot |lucenut
[16:26] <_6i> Pici: thx
[16:26] <vock> Anyone have a good how-to for getting the Realtek ALC889 working on Lucid? Currently getting no sound output at all.
[16:26] <lucenut> Ubottu if I dual boot I am not running them side by side.
[16:26] <ubutom> lucenut, desktop resolution can be changed in virtual box preferences, or in the vm itself i think
[16:26] <unop> lucenut, if you install the virtualbox guest additions/extensions in windows - you'll get full resolution amongst other things
[16:27] <rafaelsoaresbr> ubutom: thanks. marys, ps: i use gufw. why doesn't ubuntu have firewall enabled by default?
[16:27] <lucenut> Yeah, but 800x600 was the largest in Windowsbox.
[16:27] <lucenut> My buddy installed something in ubuntu that made it go to 1024 I think.
[16:27] <unop> lucenut, actually, otherway around - install the VB extensions in ubuntu
[16:27] <Dr_Willis> terry:  the command -->   lspci  | grep VGA
[16:27] <corin_> Slart, what's the syntax?
[16:28] <lucenut> VB extensions? What are those for?
[16:28] <BluesKaj> vock, have you checked alsamixer ctrls in the terminal?
[16:28] <BlueParrot> Hi all, I just upgraded to lucid and now the network manager applet wants me to reenter the WPA key for our wireless network every reboot, is this as intended ?
[16:28] <Slart> corin_: man chmod will tell you about the syntax.. or the wikipedia link on setuid
[16:28] <unop> !who | lucenut
[16:28] <ubutom> lucenut, might not be the problem, but the virutal vga adapter also needs enough memory assigned, though it should be enough for more than 1024x768
[16:28] <vock> BluesKaj, yes I have, all volume levels are up, but still no sound
[16:29] <xylander> #ubuntu.pl
[16:29] <unop> lucenut, the extensions are needed to give you full resolution (and other things like sound, networking, etc)
[16:29] <lucenut> Ubuntu extensions?
[16:30] <BluesKaj> vock, any Ms in the ctrl boxes...? if so navigate to them and use the M key to unmute
[16:30] <Slart> lucenut: the extensions are installed in the guest os.. so if I'm running windows in a vm I install the windows extensions inside the vm.. if I'm running ubuntu in a vm I install the linux extensions inside the ubuntu in the vm
[16:30] <unop> lucenut, no, they're called "VirtualBox Guest Additions" - part of virtualbox itself, they need to be installed in ubuntu
[16:31] <marys> VB=Virtual Box
[16:31] <lucenut> Ah, thanks.
[16:31] <Slart> lucenut: sorry.. they are called Guest Additions.. not extensions.. my bad
[16:31] <Slart> lucenut: like unop said
[16:31] <ubutom> or visual basic, scnr
[16:31] <lucenut> So VB should be able to run fullscreen at 1900 pixels?
[16:31] <unop> lucenut, yes
[16:32] <lucenut> K, lemme try it.
[16:32] <NeoCicak> hi all.... i'm about to install the 64 bit version of ubuntu..... i'm wondering if i can install virtualbox on it & run the 32 bit OS version (as a guest)... the reason being i need to be able to run oracle express, and i had a problem in the past with the 64 bit version of ubuntu
[16:32] <Reliant> I'm using KDevelop 4.0.0 on Ubuntu. Everytime I close a file I'm editting, the list of open files gets shuffled. Any ideas on what could be causing it or how to fix it? I asked in #KDevelop, but I think the entire channel is afk :D
[16:32] <vock> BluesKaj, ahh.. damnit I didn't check that
[16:32] <Slart> lucenut: sure.. it won't be native speed .. especially graphics can be tricky.. but it will work
[16:32] <terry> Driver Modules: "via_rhine"
[16:32] <carresmd> Hi, the hostname of my server is let's say 'server.sub.example.org'. I want it's domain name to be 'example.org' instead of 'sub.example.org'.. How would I accomplish this? (if it's even possible)
[16:32] <rafaelsoaresbr> Does VNC use 5900 tcp port by default? I know ubuntu is lintening to this port here.
[16:32] <ubutom> NeoCicak, sure
[16:32] <terry> Dr_Willis help!
[16:32] <Slart> lucenut: don't expect to run any games released on this side of year 2000 =)
[16:33] <NeoCicak> ubotum: thx!
[16:33] <Pici> rafaelsoaresbr: Yes, it does.
[16:33] <terry> Dr_Willis please help!
[16:33] <Slart> rafaelsoaresbr: I think so, yes.. it might also add 1 to the port number for each new display
[16:33] <ubutom> Slart, is virtual box the vm supporting dx9 or what was it again?
[16:33] <Dr_Willis> terry:  the command -->   lspci  | grep VGA    tells you your video card chipset.
[16:33] <lucenut> Slart, I have never played a computer game. :-)
[16:33] <shannon_> Hey, can anyone recommend a way to test the speed and reliability of my internet connection? I just had to install a wireless driver from source, want an objective test of it
[16:33] <unop> lucenut, in the VB menu, Devices -> Install Guest Additions -- see http://linuxandfriends.com/2009/02/12/installing-virtualbox-guest-additions-in-ubuntu-linux/
[16:34] <Slart> ubutom: well.. it has some kind of accelerated graphics.. I don't think it handles the entire dx9 api though
[16:34] <terry> 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M890CE Host Bridge
[16:34] <terry> 00:00.1 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M890CE Host Bridge
[16:34] <terry> 00:00.2 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M890CE Host Bridge
[16:34] <terry> 00:00.3 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M890CE Host Bridge
[16:34] <terry> 00:00.4 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M890CE Host Bridge
[16:34] <FloodBot1> terry: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:34] <terry> 00:00.5 PIC: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M890CE I/O APIC Interrupt Controller
[16:34] <OpenSourcedNick> ?
[16:34] <vock> BluesKaj, now it's working great
[16:34] <vock> thanks a ton
[16:34] <OpenSourcedNick> is someone attacking the servers?
[16:34] <OpenSourcedNick> :I
[16:34] <acicula> nah
[16:34] <BluesKaj> vock , np :)
[16:34] <jpds> OpenSourcedNick: Yes.
[16:34] <lucenut> I just want to "live" in ubuntu for a month or so while still running my windows environment.
[16:34] <rafaelsoaresbr> Pici, Slart, I've got, thanks, i'm remote controlling my system right now.
[16:35] <jpds> OpenSourcedNick: No, not really.
[16:35] <Slart> rafaelsoaresbr: great
[16:35] <OpenSourcedNick> jpds, stupid people, attackign freenode is like attacking greenpeace :I
[16:35] <jpds> OpenSourcedNick: It's just the OpenOffice security update.
[16:35] <ubutom> Slart, found it, I think it's vmware workstation what I meant
[16:35] <Slart> lucenut: ah.. so no problem then.. it will handle regular graphics well enough.. at least good enough to use regular desktop software
[16:35] <loopidity> how do i record bash history in human readable format and not unix time?
[16:35] <jpds> loopidity: date -R ?
[16:35] <terry> Dr_Willis please help!
[16:36] <Slart> ubutom: ah.. I've never tried that
[16:36] <loopidity> jpds in the .bash_history file i mean
[16:36] <Slart> !helpme | terry
[16:36] <falktx> loopidity: export HISTTIMEFORMAT="%d/%m/%y %T "
[16:36] <ubutom> Slart, me neither, but I read about it. Well, it's commercial and virtualbox is free, so... ;)
[16:36] <rafaelsoaresbr> Slart, i'm using openvnc in windows. but the screen resolution does not fit.
[16:36] <fanti> hello! after the last dist-upgrade a few days ago, my network interfaces do not configure automatically. 'sudo service network-interfaces start' reports an error: start: Unknown parameter: INTERFACE
[16:36] <Dr_Willis> terry:  i think you ran the wrong command.. and dont paste 4+ lines here.
[16:37] <Dr_Willis> terry:  the command is -->   lspci  | grep VGA
[16:37] <piasdom> hello all
[16:37] <disappearedng> hey how do I restore my home directory which is hidden by ecryptfs?
[16:37] <unop> loopidity, bash uses the timestamp internally - the HISTTIMEFORMAT variable is only used to format that timestamp when you use the history command
[16:37] <BluesKaj> fanti , run sudo dhclient
[16:37] <Slart> rafaelsoaresbr: I've never used openvnc.. I think I used tightvnc or .. that other one...ehmm.. ultravnc.. one of those supports some kind of scaling
[16:37] <zaira> hola
[16:37] <terry> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M890CE/K8N890CE [Chrome 9] (rev 01)
[16:38] <loopidity> unop gotcha
[16:38] <Goomba54> hey everyone.  quick question.  im gonna be partitioning my hdd soon.  is there anyway i can make a copy of my ubuntu as it is now that i can install if i mess something up?
[16:38] <vmf007> martian...
[16:38] <loopidity> unop so ther is no way then?
[16:38] <terry> Tahts whats it tells
[16:38] <zaira> hola
[16:38] <unop> loopidity, that's because it would be too difficult for bash to parse any arbitrary date format you use - there is no way I know
[16:38] <Dr_Willis> terry:  its very possible that thing has no 3d drivers for linux.  You seem to have a 'Via K8M890CE/K8N890CE [Chrome 9]' thats worth rembering
[16:38] <lucenut> I have 1360x768 in my Virtualbox Ubuntu. Is it possible to go bigger?
[16:38] <Slart> rafaelsoaresbr: or you can set it up in the vnc server.. if you're starting the vnc server from a command line there is a --geometry option I think.. but it's been a while since I messed with it so I might be mistaken
[16:38] <rafaelsoaresbr> Slart, openvnc does not rezise video output. going to download tightvnc
[16:38] <piasdom> how do i enable proprietary drivers? in system/admin/hardware drivers ...it says enabled but not in use
[16:39] <loopidity> unop thats sad, i heard older version used to do it  though
[16:39] <corin_> Slart, chmod g+s file # but how do i specify what group?
[16:39] <corin_> s/file/directory
[16:39] <terry> Cant I set my apperance to atleast normal
[16:39] <terry> ?
[16:39] <Goomba54> anybody?  a way to make an exact copy of my ubuntu now that i can reinstall?
[16:39] <unop> loopidity, you can always use the history command to create a new version of your ~/.bash_history with your preferred timeformat like this.  HISTFORMAT="blah"  history > new_histfile
[16:39] <Slart> corin_: eh.. stgid uses the group of the parent directory.. if I recall correctly
[16:40] <unop> loopidity, you could ask the folk in #bash more about this.
[16:40] <loopidity> unop yup, thought so
[16:40] <ubutom> Goomba54, http://partedmagic.com/
[16:40] <terry> Cant I set my apperance to atleast normal?Dr_Willis
[16:40] <loopidity> unop thanks, all the way i was in another bash channel and there were 4 ppl
[16:40] <vale_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC
[16:41] <unop> loopidity, sounds unofficial
[16:41] <vmf007> martian?
[16:41] <terry> Cant I set my apperance to atleast normal?Dr_Willis
[16:41] <Goomba54> ubutom:  thanks!  just what i was looking for
[16:41] <ubutom> Goomba54, np
[16:41] <terry> Cant I set my apperance to atleast normal?Dr_Willis
[16:41] <terry> Cant I set my apperance to atleast normal?Dr_Willis
[16:41] <disappearedng> I just did the following: "sudo mount -t ecryptfs /home/disappearedng/.Private /mnt/NewHome", but then when everything comes out, it's still the same old ECRYPTFS_FNEK_ENCRYPTED.FWas4uZ1hKdQbkSJ9UgFwduy7yCGzYrTJjKU.ruS1EgTKmZLWaOXSblsIk-- file like that what can i do?
[16:41] <Dr_Willis> Well.. guess.. i dont have  finish my research for terry..
[16:42] <Dr_Willis> ANyone know off hand if VIA Chrome9 even has 3d support?
[16:42] <ubutom> Dr_Willis, think so, though I don't know if the linux drivers do
[16:43] <Dr_Willis> ubutom:  thats what i was thinking.. no 3d for them.
[16:43] <Dr_Willis> ubutom:  but im not 100% sure on that
[16:43] <corin_> Slart, http://pastie.org/private/hize5f8jifrcsqnx5cdw - am I missing something?
[16:43] <Dr_Willis> ubutom:  i know better then to buy a system with via video :)
[16:43] <wise_crypt> !info keryx
[16:43] <martian> vmf007: yes?
[16:44] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> Howdy Ya'll
[16:44] <ubutom> Dr_Willis, it's DX9 capable, least on windows
[16:44] <piasdom> thanks anyway
[16:44] <Slart> corin_: are you sure the setgid flag affects other directories?
[16:44] <Dr_Willis> ubutom:  yea. but thats not really saying a lot these days. :)
[16:44] <vmf007> hey, sorry
[16:44] <ubutom> Dr_Willis, true :)
[16:44] <bastidrazor> Dr_Willis: a quick google search shows from the openchrome wiki no 3d drivers and no hint at there ever being any
[16:45] <corin_> Slart, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setuid#setgid_on_directories - "Setting the setgid permission on a directory (chmod g+s) causes new files and subdirectories created within it to inherit its groupID"
[16:45] <vmf007> I couldn't do the procedure cuz the error comes up right before I can hit the esc button to get into grub
[16:45] <Slart> corin_: hmm.. nevermind .. it should affect files and directories..
[16:45] <Dr_Willis> bastidrazor:  thats what i was googling for.. Oh well.. terry got booted anyway.
[16:45] <martian> vmf007: You should boot to the live CD to do it
[16:45] <loopidity> unop does history remember stuffs only after recent login? or can I make it store items of past few days as well
[16:45] <Reliant> heh, it looks like in Kdevelop, every time I close a file the list of files opened is reversed. I have to close files in pairs to maintain my list in the proper order :D
[16:46] <bastidrazor> Dr_Willis: seems some DRM issues are hindering the open source project
[16:46] <loopidity> apparently it stoes only recent items after login
[16:46] <vmf007> I am in live cd, it said to reboot and edit grub
[16:46] <ubutom> My experience with S3 is, one can be lucky to have functional windows drivers :D
[16:46] <Slart> corin_: what are the owner:group for the /var/www/_sites folder?
[16:46] <Dr_Willis> ubutom:  thats what i was thinking also
[16:46] <Rinsmaster> Is there any way to get the media keys on my KB to work in while in a fullscreen game?
[16:46] <Chatur> hello people
[16:47] <unop> loopidity, yes, you can control that with the histappend shell option -- see ''help shopt'' and ''man bash''
[16:47] <vmf007> can I change grub from live cd? and if so, how
[16:47] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> I tried to reinstall the Broadcom driver and received an error that some patch was missing. I deleted it :-) now how do I fix this mess?
[16:47] <corin_> Slart, ah, you're right, i need to sgid directories already made, including _sites
[16:47] <unop> loopidity, with histappend - history entries are appended to the histfile - and your histfile can be days, weeks or even years old -- it'll keep growing
[16:47] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> no Man bashing allowed here!
[16:47] <DrGrov> Dr_Willis: problem solved. :)
[16:47] <Chatur> i am new to ubuntu.i have recently installed compiz and for some reason i am not able to enable the visual effects.
[16:48] <Dr_Willis> DrGrov:  and theres much rejoicing
[16:48] <DrGrov> Dr_Willis: ah yes. i can be a bit more clever this time around ;)
[16:48] <Dr_Willis> DrGrov:  after a few days if everything seems ok. You can clean out your backups you made
[16:48] <loopidity> thanks unop, i will see into that
[16:48] <Slart> corin_: yep.. and set owner:group manually.. It doesn't do that for existing files/folders.. only new ones
[16:48] <soreau> Chatur: What kind of graphics card do you have?
[16:48] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> Chatur: thats because you need the driver for your video card!
[16:48] <terry> How to start task manager?
[16:48] <martian> vmf007: The tutorial there explains it
[16:48] <corin_> aye, figured it meant that it wouldnt change the group of _sites, but would effect new files within _sites
[16:49] <mm_> hi anyone there ?
[16:49] <soreau> The_Real_Sam_Fis: Not if he doesn't use nvidia
[16:49] <martian> mm_: yes
[16:49] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> mm_: nope
[16:49] <mm_> would like to ask where can i fast learn shell script ?
[16:49] <vmf007> ok, can I get that link one more time then please?
[16:49] <martian> mm_: google.com
[16:49] <soreau> mm_: Ask in #bash
[16:49] <martian> http://computergyan.wordpress.com/2009/12/31/solving-the-busybox-black-screen-problem-in-grub2ubuntu9-10/
[16:49] <Dr_Willis> mm_:  you should track down some books on bash, and read the 'advanced bash scripting' guide
[16:49] <unop> loopidity,  shopt -s histappend   and  HISTFILESIZE=32767  # would give you what you want but ensure that only a max of 32k commands are remembered in history
[16:50] <bastidrazor> mm http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[16:50] <Chatur> i have ATI radeon 7500...but i even after install it i get an error message which says.."no graphic driver or driver not functioning properly"
[16:50] <mm_> wow thanks
[16:50] <bastidrazor> mm_: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[16:50] <unop> I wouldn't suggest the ABS
[16:50] <Dr_Willis> terry:  theres no alt-ctrl-del task manager that ive ever noticed in ubuntu. (never really looked)
[16:50] <corin_> cheers for the help Slart
[16:50] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> Everyone ueses Nvidia!
[16:50] <Dr_Willis> terry:  i use 'htop' for my task manager
[16:50] <loculinux-client> holas
[16:50] <terry> No spanish please
[16:50] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> Dr_Willis: there are task managers
[16:51] <loculinux-client> sry
[16:51] <mm_> that's great :) it helps
[16:51] <loopidity> unop looks like my .bashrc was set to append the history file, so now i only increased the histsize and histfilesize to 30,000
[16:51] <loculinux-client> ok
[16:51] <ubutom> isn't holas greek? ;)
[16:51] <Dr_Willis> The_Real_Sam_Fis:  i never really looked or needed them :)  ps ax and kill ! :)
[16:51] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> loculinux-client: there is an active spanish Ubuntu group!
[16:51] <Pici> !es | loculinux-client
[16:51] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> yeah what he said !
[16:52] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> it's all greek to me!
[16:52] <Dr_Willis> Greek Geeks :)
[16:52] <terry> How to start task manager?
[16:52] <Slart> corin_: you're welcome
[16:52] <corin_> hmm Slart, what about changing umask just for /var/www/ (for default file permissions on future file/directories)?
[16:52] <terry> How to start task manager?
[16:52] <ubutom> or was it hellas? *shrug*
[16:52] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> Anyone help on installing the Broadcom driver?
[16:52] <terry> How to start task manager?
[16:52] <loopidity> unop however, whatever commands i used yesterday are lost then? and no way to see them?
[16:53] <vmf007> still got that link martian?
[16:53] <BlueParrot> Network Manager seems to not remember my WPA key after I reboot. It started after I upgraded to lucid. Any ideas ?
[16:53] <martian> vmf007: http://computergyan.wordpress.com/2009/12/31/solving-the-busybox-black-screen-problem-in-grub2ubuntu9-10/
[16:53] <Slart> corin_: try asking the channel.. I have to go get todays mail sent off before the post office closes..
[16:53] <corin_> ok, cheers
[16:54] <vmf007> thanks, I'll try again.
[16:54] <ubutom> BlueParrot, think that's got something to do with the keyring thingy
[16:54] <ustian> ustian
[16:54] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> Why doesn't Lucid scan for wifi in the area like previous versions?
[16:54] <BlueParrot> ubutom, ok, what does that mean ? :P
[16:54] <ustian> hey
[16:54] <Dr_Willis> The_Real_Sam_Fis:  I notifed that on my netbook it does.. but on my laptop it dosent..
[16:55] <Dr_Willis> The_Real_Sam_Fis:  well netbook scans/auto connects to the home lan..  laptop i always hage to tell it to do so.
[16:55] <ubutom> BlueParrot, I get asked to set a password for keyring, I don't do it and I also have to type in the key everytime I boot
[16:55] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> Dr_Willis: odd isn't it? Seems such a basic thing
[16:55] <BlueParrot> ubottu, I don't get asked that
[16:55] <BlueParrot> lol tab-fail
[16:55] <Dr_Willis> The_Real_Sam_Fis:  my laptop is so 'weird; with wireless' the wireless device shows up as eth1 and the  Network connection tool never shows its connected even if it is..
[16:55] <Pupeno> Should the FQDN of a machine point to 127.0.0.1 or to one of the IPs of the machine in /etc/hosts?
[16:55] <BlueParrot> ubutom, I don't get asked to set a keyring password though
[16:56] <ubutom> BlueParrot, but I think there's an option in Network manager to save the password or make it availabe for all users or something like that, did that on another machine running 9.10 and it connected automatically
[16:56] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> Dr_Willis: wow that's a mess
[16:56] <Dr_Willis> The_Real_Sam_Fis:  might be a quirk with the STA driver my laptop is using
[16:56] <bastidrazor> Pupeno: 127.0.1.1 hostname    is min in /etc/hosts
[16:56] <Dr_Willis> The_Real_Sam_Fis:  at least it works. :)
[16:56] <bastidrazor> mine
[16:56] <ubutom> BlueParrot, if you got time, I could boot that machine up and look :)
[16:56] <acicula> Pudgy, just localhost localdomain should point to 127.0.0.1
[16:56] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> Dr_Willis: Broadcom STA?
[16:56] <falktx> Slart: fixed now
[16:56] <acicula> FQDN names point to external ips
[16:56] <falktx> Slart: alsa midi/sound works after all
[16:57] <falktx> Slart: just wine not displaying it
[16:57] <Dr_Willis> The_Real_Sam_Fis:  yep. I do have a  different mini pci wireless card i could stick in it from a different laptop. :)
[16:57] <Dr_Willis> The_Real_Sam_Fis:  i may test that out.
[16:57] <BlueParrot> ubutom, naa, no need, I'll play a bit with it, and it's not the end of the world, if it's a common bug somebody mroe in the know iwll probably get it too and then we'll see a fix
[16:57] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> Broadcom are a real pain but once they work they are fine
[16:58] <bastidrazor> Pupeno: i was wrong.. look here http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/CouldNotDetermineServerName
[16:58] <ubutom> BlueParrot, just booted, if you got 2 mins i can tell you more ;)
[16:58] <Scarlet> hi
[16:58] <bastidrazor> Pupeno: 127.0.0.1 localhost www.mydomain.com    is how mine is
[16:58] <BlueParrot> ubutom, I tried enabling the "available to all users" , will have to see next reboot if it worked
[16:59] <pedro> hi
[16:59] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> Scarlet: hello
[16:59] <joshdreamland> My sound quality is horrific on Lucid, never was before. Can confirm it is not a problem with a particular port nor particular pair of speakers. Is this a known problem?
[16:59] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> pedro: welcome my friend to the wonderful world of Ubuntu!
[16:59] <joshdreamland> By horrific, I mean it sounds like the audio was overamplified, clipped, and then played. It sounds like the speakers are giving out, only they're not.
[17:00] <ubutom> BlueParrot, yeah, I made the same thing
[17:00] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> joshdreamland: Are you singing along? Perhaps that is the problem!
[17:00] <ping__luce>  hi. which program could I use for extracting tracks from an audio cd into wav format?
[17:00] <joshdreamland> The_Real_Sam_Fis: Oh, you're right! I hadn't noticed
[17:00] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> LOL
[17:00] <joshdreamland> :p
[17:01] <ubutom> BlueParrot, just looked, I made a wireless connection and enabled it for all users, so the password get'S saved. I don't remember setting a password for keyring, so it should work
[17:01] <vidur> i have an ATI mobility Radeon 7500 graphics card,in IBM thinkpad r40 laptop.where can i get a driver for this graphic card?
[17:01] <acicula> vidur, system->administartion->hardware drivers
[17:02] <ubutom> BlueParrot, I also enably connect automatically
[17:02] <ubutom> *enabled
[17:02] <joshdreamland> I know a lot of overhauling was done on 10.04's sound system, and it corrected a lot of problems with dropped buffers. I'm not sure where this problem came from out of that
[17:02] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> joshdreamland: there is a possibilty that it is playing through the on board speaker that is supposed to beep for warnings?
[17:02] <acicula> vidur,  though may be that its just to old a gfx to be supported beyond anything then the open source driver thats (should be) enabled by default.
[17:02] <joshdreamland> The_Real_Sam_Fis: No, pcspkr's been blacklisted
[17:02] <BlueParrot> ubuntulog, if the keyring works I'm fine with that because then I could just use my password and not having to remember the darn wep-key
[17:02] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> joshdreamland: was a wild guess
[17:02] <joshdreamland> Mine only ever beeped anyway
[17:03] <BlueParrot> fail again
[17:03] <BlueParrot> ubutom, see above :P
[17:03] <joshdreamland> Yep, appreciated accordingly
[17:03] <Drayz> Salut
[17:03] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> joshdreamland: I am not sure what driver controls audio but that is the problem
[17:03] <acicula> vidur, can you set the resolution that you want?
[17:03] <BlueParrot> ubutom, I must learn to tab-complete with care in big channels :)
[17:03] <joshdreamland> Probably. Odd thing is, I never had this problem with Jaunty.
[17:03] <Kenet> joshdreamland
[17:04] <Kenet> are you using a beta or rc version?
[17:04] <vidur> acicula NO
[17:04] <joshdreamland> Kenet: Of Lucid?
[17:04] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> joshdreamland: sounds like it guessed the wrong driver. Oh the pun!
[17:04] <joshdreamland> I'm using whatever was available near the end of April
[17:04] <arrhenius> hola
[17:04] <Kenet> yes
[17:05] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> arrhenius: Bueno!
[17:05] <joshdreamland> And have since updated regularly
[17:05] <steve33> im trying to install a program and i get this message "The repository may no longer be available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network connection and ensure the repository address in the preferences is correct."  what does this mean
[17:05] <acicula> vidur, what resolution can you set?
[17:05] <Kenet> check alsamixer settings
[17:05] <ubutom> BlueParrot, yeah, happens, well, I kept mine simple *g*
[17:05] <joshdreamland> I assume it's the release candidate, but I'm not sure if they're still called that after they are actually released. It's not the beta.
[17:05] <acicula> vidur, you cant use the binary drivers from ati unfortunatly, as those simply do not support that card anymore by the looks of it
[17:05] <martian> set settings_autosave = ON
[17:05] <Milp_main> hey guys, which ubuntu version used to run kernel version 2.6.29?
[17:05] <martian> oops
[17:06] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> joshdreamland: have you gone to synaptic and checked for Broken packages and then checked Update everything?
[17:06] <vidur> i get an error which say "There was a problem initializing Catalyst Control Center Linux edition.  It could be caused by the following.
[17:06] <vidur> No ATI graphics driver is installed, or the ATI driver is not functioning properly."Please install the ATI driver appropriate for you ATI hardware, or configure using aticonfig."
[17:06] <Milp_main> I urgently need all the stuff required to compile things for the kernel version 2.6.29 on an arm device
[17:06] <Kenet> can this problem be described as pcspkr works but you don't want it to work?
[17:06] <joshdreamland> The_Real_Sam_Fis: Not really; I just ran update, upgrade, and dist-upgrade
[17:06] <Kenet> hehe, since my english sucks
[17:06] <joshdreamland> Kenet: My problem?
[17:06] <acicula> vidur, are you trying to install drivers from the ati website
[17:07] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> Kenet: he turned off the PC Speaker
[17:07] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> Kenet: it is super annoying on laptops
[17:07] <joshdreamland> Kenet: I would have blacklisted pcspkr had the developers not done so themselves with the comment "this annoys everybody"
[17:07] <Kenet> i used to have this similar problem
[17:07] <vidur> No i tried installing it using "synaptic package manager"
[17:07] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> joshdreamland: really? that's funny
[17:07] <Kenet> blacklist it won't help
[17:08] <joshdreamland> The_Real_Sam_Fis: Yes. They said in their comment it should be replaced by a nice audio blip.
[17:08] <Kenet> i looked for the solution everywhere and all say that i have to blacklist it
[17:08] <ubutom> vidur, maybe you use the opensource driver, to enable radeon driver enable desktop effects or use hardware driver wizard, if it doesn't install, your card is not supported anymore and you'll have to stick with the opensource driver which doesn't have ccc
[17:08] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> anyone help installing Broadcom driver when it asks for a patch I just deleted?
[17:09] <joshdreamland> Kenet: My problem is that when I play some sounds/songs, it sounds as if the system had amplified them past the playable range, clipped what couldn't be played, and then set it back with several lost crests and played it anyway
[17:09] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> any Aussies here?
[17:09] <jad> hey
[17:09] <acicula> vidur, ah like so, same issue really, you can not install the binary ati drivers (fglrx) period, your card is not supported by those drivers(anymore). and the older drivers that do support the card probably wont work on a modern version of ubuntu, tl;dr your stuck using the open source ati driver.
[17:09] <joshdreamland> so it kind of hisses and sometimes squeaks
[17:09] <jad> please really need help with open office draw
[17:09] <jad> and please don't redirect me
[17:09] <jad> to a different channel
[17:09] <theadmin> jad: Might be better off to #openoffice.org but if you know it's Ubuntu specific - ask here
[17:09] <joshdreamland> It really sounds as if the speakers have gone bad, but I tested multiple from multiple ports
[17:10] <joshdreamland> !ask | jad
[17:10] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> jad: there is a channel for open office at #openofficejustforJad
[17:10] <vidur> oh...is there a way by which i can bring back my driver settings to normal again?
[17:10] <acicula> vidur, yeah remove the packages you installed with apt-get remove --purge packagename
[17:10] <acicula> in a console
[17:10] <acicula> !xorg
[17:11] <theadmin> Hm. What is the XFCE's login manager? xdm or something?
[17:11] <joshdreamland> *has a bone to pick with x.org developers, too*
[17:11] <Kenet> sorry that's beyond my ability
[17:11] <vidur> k i ll try doing that
[17:11] <jad> The_Real_Sam_Fis, thing is, no one is on these channels usually
[17:11] <djbeenie_> anyone know how to restart alsa in ubuntu 10.4?
[17:12] <theadmin> djbeenie_: sudo service alsa restart I suppose.
[17:12] <joshdreamland> I thought you said "restart Asia"
[17:12] <theadmin> ...lol
[17:12] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> someone lay some terminal commands on us dealing with sound !
[17:12] <Dr_Willis> The_Real_Sam_Fis:  'beep'
[17:12] <Dr_Willis> :)
[17:12] <joshdreamland> win
[17:12] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> lol
[17:12] <Dr_Willis> !info beep
[17:12] <djbeenie_> alsa: unrecognized service
[17:13] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> josh is in dreamland and needs a lullaby to play him to sleep
[17:13] <joshdreamland> as opposed to the sound of cars being crushed
[17:13] <jaminc> my laptop appears to be periodically rebooting as a result of a kernel crash...  however most attempts to submit the requested bug report for the kernel crash result in a "HTTP Error 500: Internal Server Error" response after several minutes trying to upload the data.  Is there any other way I can report this problem and provide the necessary data?
[17:14] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> WOW no one can help me with Broadcom problem really?
[17:14] <geez> Hi, I have been Googling for a mobile printer that will work with my Karmic netbook. Suggestions, rants and raves welcomed ;-)
[17:14] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> geez: this aint no place for rants and raves
[17:15] <joshdreamland> geez: I've never plugged anything into an ubuntu machine that didn't just immediately work
[17:15] <rashd7_> i have bcm5784m lan driver
[17:15] <joshdreamland> Well, I mean, not since they fixed it so you can have more than one mouse
[17:15] <joshdreamland> Which was a very, very long time ago
[17:15] <geez> Anything? agreed but printing is different because I don't ever see any drivers...
[17:16] <theadmin> geez: CUPS?
[17:16] <theadmin> :/
[17:16] <joshdreamland> geez: I despise printers. I had to install software for mine on Windows, but they worked immediately on Ubuntu
[17:16] <jaminc> geez, all printers I've tried have just worked... the main problem is getting one that is portable enough for a mobile
[17:16] <rafaelsoaresbr> can I use "mount --bind" for /var directory instead of using symbolic links?
[17:16] <geez> Great, so which printer did u install?
[17:16] <Milp_main> I urgently need all the stuff required to compile things for the kernel version 2.6.29 on an arm device, where can i find the kernel headers for that?
[17:17] <jaminc> geez, my main is an hp7350 (bit old now days)
[17:17] <NCS_One> I have a blueray in .mkv file when I play it lags, plays like slowmotion, do I need some codecs ?
[17:17] <acicula> Milp_main, are you on ubuntu?
[17:17] <jaminc> also had another HP all-in-one deal (scanner, printer, etc) don't recall the model number off hand
[17:17] <rottenese> The_Real_Sam_Fis: tried the broadcom driver shipped with synaptic pkg mngr?
[17:17] <claytonwalker> Test, can anybody read this?
[17:17] <acicula> claytonwalker, yup
[17:17] <geez> I need a mobile printer somthing like the Canon ip100 but only drivers 4 mac and windoze
[17:17] <jpds> claytonwalker: No.
[17:17] <Milp_main> acicula: yes
[17:17] <Keithamus> does anyone here have Lucid Lynx set up for LTSP?
[17:18] <claytonwalker> Thanks, now to my question. Am I not able to copy a 4GB+ file over to a fat32 formatted HD?
[17:18] <acicula> Milp_main, apt-get install build-essential, and you may have to explicitly install the headers package for your kernel version, use apt-cache search to locate those
[17:18] <powdahound> Anyone else having issues hitting security.ubuntu.com when running 'apt-get update'?
[17:18] <theadmin> claytonwalker: Nope, 4GB limit on fat32.
[17:18] <iceroot> claytonwalker: no
[17:18] <acicula> ie apt-cache search linux | grep headers| grep <yourversion> or something to that extend
[17:18] <acicula> isnt there exFAT
[17:19] <acicula> to handle +4GB sized files?
[17:19] <joshdreamland> The_Real_Sam_Fis: I found the comments. "# ugly and loud noise, getting on everyone's nerves; this should be done by a / # nice pulseaudio bing (Ubuntu: #77010)"
[17:19] <jaminc> geez, that's funny, I see Linux drivers on their support site for the ip100
[17:19] <iceroot> acicula: not working with windows by default, so its useless
[17:19] <Milp_main> acicula: well i tried searching for it on aptitude and it couldnt find anything with my kernel version, only 2.6.31 and upwards
[17:19] <claytonwalker> threadmin: Thanks, I've tried drag-and-drop, and terminal commands (albiet on my Mac, seeing as I can't connect to ##apple) and both have failed me. You've saved me a lot of grief.
[17:19] <jaminc> geez, "1.   Printer Driver for Linux (Debian) (2.90)"
[17:19] <iceroot> Milp_main: packages.ubuntu.com
[17:19] <acicula> Milp_main, are you using a stock kernel?
[17:19] <geez> I'll look again on the support site. I just looked on the drivers site. thnx.
[17:19] <Milp_main> acicula: no
[17:20] <jaminc> just search for "canon ip100 linux"
[17:20] <jaminc> that's all I did
[17:20] <acicula> Milp_main, then the headers wont be packaged either, you'll have to symlink the headers in /usr/include
[17:20] <Milp_main> iceroot: thanks, will search there
[17:20] <Milp_main> acicula: uuh what?
[17:21] <acicula> Milp_main, if you are using a custom kernel then you will not find the header files packaged for it, unless you run a custom version of a prepackaged kernel
[17:21] <mophead> Hi everyone, anyone else having trouble with ubuntu getting rid of all of their preferences?  e.g. appearance, key combos...?
[17:21] <simmerz> hi. I've got a mpeg file but `file -i foo.mpg` shows it being read a application/octet-stream instead of video/mpeg. any ideas?
[17:21] <Milp_main> acicula: thats why im asking if there was an ubuntu version running version 2.6.29, so i could just use those headers for it, do you happen to know which version used it?
[17:22] <theadmin> mophead: Do you have full rwx access to your $HOME, I suppose?
[17:22] <saineyb> are u
[17:22] <unop> simmerz, file doesn't always get it right
[17:22] <robertskmiles> I'm having a problem with a segfault in mesa/libGL.so, google says people fix the problem by replacing it with nvidia/ati drivers, but I have intel integrated graphics, what can I replace mea with?
[17:23] <acicula> Milp_main, 9.04 shipped with .28 and karmic shipped with .31, so no
[17:23] <mophead> theadmin: sorry?
[17:23] <dngr> hey, i upgraded the kernel in ubuntu 10, now the windows option disappeared, i guess it doesnt recognize it as windows as its pgp encrypted.. how can i force it to boot the partition?
[17:23] <theadmin> mophead: What are the permissions on your home folder?
[17:23] <simmerz> unop: right, but the same command on an os x box gets it right. and it seems to be affecting a web app we've built that uses the OS mime type file to determine file type
[17:23] <Milp_main> acicula: hm where could i get a set of headers from then?
[17:23] <iceroot> Milp_main: kernel.org?
[17:23] <acicula> Milp_main, they are in the kernel source package you build from
[17:24] <acicula> if you make debs from the kernel source it should also package the headers i think?
[17:24] <unop> simmerz, file uses a 'magic' file which is a collection of signatures and properties about a file - different vendors populate it differently and it seems like apple have done better in this case
[17:24] <unop> simmerz, does the web app use apache?
[17:25] <Milp_main> iceroot: thanks acicula: well i didnt build the kernel myself, i dont think i can find the sources needed
[17:25] <acicula> Milp_main, if all this is confusing to you perhaps consider switching to prepackaged kernels for you?
[17:25] <simmerz> unop: it's a ruby on rails app running under mod_passenger, so yes
[17:25] <robertskmiles> simmerz: if the file plays fine, you count reencode it with mencoder or ffmpeg to get a file that file can understand
[17:25] <robertskmiles> s/count/could/
[17:25] <Andrew129> hi everyone. does anyone use amarok player?
[17:25] <NCS_One> I have a bluray in .mkv file when I play it lags, plays like slowmotion, do I need some codecs ?
[17:25] <Milp_main> acicula: thats not possible for that device, ubuntu only runs inside a chroot environment
[17:26] <simmerz> robertskmiles: what might cause it to show up wrong? a codec not understood maybe?
[17:26] <solow> I keep getting errors trying to install windows 7 on virtualbox. Anyone have any idea why?
[17:26] <iceroot> Milp_main: ah ok, thought it was a vanilla kernel
[17:26] <unop> simmerz, my guess is the .mpg wasn't created properly - with the right headers, etc. couldn't you use other properties such as file extensions?
[17:26] <robertskmiles> simmerz: no idea, presumabply wrong headers
[17:26] <iceroot> solow: ##windows ad #vbox
[17:26] <ubutom> NCS_One, maybe a player-issue
[17:26] <Milp_main> iceroot: nah, im trying to be able to compile things inside the chroo ubuntu env, so i dont have to cross compile, because thats the worst thing in the world to me
[17:27] <mophead> theadmin: all seems normal
[17:27] <acicula> Milp_main, yeah you'll have to get the sourcepackage that build your kernel(oogle), and then either manually setup the headers via symlinking, or package the kernel (!compile) as debs and install the headers as deb.
[17:27] <mophead> brb, let me reboot and see if that works
[17:27] <NCS_One> ubutom: I tryed de default player, mpayer and vcl
[17:27] <simmerz> unop: we could, but knowing the client they'd rename a .mov ;-)
[17:27] <acicula> as deb/ via dpkg
[17:27] <bcessa> hi there, this may be the most obvious question ever, but here it is anyway, I just install a server, everything working fine, but, how can I change the mysql host name from localhost to something more useful?
[17:27] <Milp_main> acicula: or could i just throw all the sources into the folder of the program i want to compile every time i want to compile something? (the lazy but messy way)
[17:27] <dngr> okidokia, does someone know how to boot a windows partition from the grub prompt?
[17:27] <acicula> Milp_main, well the build chain expects to find headers
[17:28] <unop> simmerz, I'm sure there are better ways to detect the file type - perhaps ffmpeg or mencoder have some detection mechanism
[17:28] <unop> ?
[17:28] <ubutom> NCS_One, have you got the commercial drivers installed for your gfx card?
[17:28] <acicula> you can set where it finds those headers to another location yes
[17:28] <iceroot> bcessa: mysql is not the localhost, your pc is localhost.
[17:28] <simmerz> unop: quite possibly. we're just doing a quick check
[17:28] <iceroot> bcessa: you have to add a name in /etc/hosts (dont change localhost) for an ip its listening on
[17:29] <robertskmiles> what is the alternative to mesa opengl for an intel integrated graphics card?
[17:29] <bcessa> iceroot: ic, someone suggest me to simply create a username with a different hostname value, is that the way to do it?
[17:29] <NCS_One> ubottu: yes
[17:29] <iceroot> bcessa: no
[17:29] <NCS_One> ubutom: yes
[17:29] <mophead> theadmin: reboot had no effect
[17:29] <bastidrazor> NCS_One: you ran mplayer from command line? mplayer is good about giving options/ reasons for slow play
[17:29] <iceroot> bcessa: go the way with /etc/hosts
[17:29] <ubutom> NCS_One, have you looked at cpu-load during playback?
[17:30] <NCS_One> ubutom: going to check it
[17:30] <tris2k_> which scripting languages do u guys like to best
[17:30] <jaminc> my laptop appears to be periodically rebooting as a result of a kernel crash...  however most attempts to submit the requested bug report for the kernel crash result in a "HTTP Error 500: Internal Server Error" response after several minutes trying to upload the data.  Is there any other way I can report this problem and provide the necessary data?
[17:30] <robertskmiles> tris2k: Python, by a long way
[17:31] <tris2k_> have you compared it to ruby, scala?
[17:31] <jaminc> tris2k_, definitely python... can do pretty much anything
[17:31] <bcessa> ok, I'll give it a try, thnx
[17:31] <mophead> theadmin: reboot fixed it.  success. thank you!
[17:31] <stanley_robertso> hi all
[17:31] <Tux_> I hva a problem setting up vpn (dont even know where to start). My network manager at work gave me this information: ipsec l2tp ppp, any ideas anyone?
[17:32] <robertskmiles> ruby is pretty nice but the thing that makes python for me is the selection of libraries
[17:32] <tris2k_> i was checking out python/ruby. they seem incredibly similar
[17:32] <dcamp25> Need some help with broadcom wireless cards
[17:32] <oCean_> !vpn | Tux_
[17:32] <theadmin> tris2k_: Ruby is a mix of python and a frog, as russians say
[17:32] <acicula> tris2k_, there are heaps of differences, google python vs ruby
[17:32] <iceroot> !broadcom | dcamp25
[17:33] <tris2k_> a frog? as in uglier?
[17:33] <unop> !poll | tris2k_
[17:33] <tris2k_> ok :)
[17:34] <Tux_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN : IPSec VPN, Not covered on this page... The closest I have gotten is this page: http://www.jacco2.dds.nl/networking/linux-l2tp.html
[17:35] <oCean_> Tux_: beware, this is not a general linux support channel. If you encounter specific ubuntu issues, you can ask them here
[17:35] <corpse> how could i go about mounting my fileserver so i can see it when browsing for a download location? It shows it as mounted in my window sidebar but i can not find the folder when i try to browse to it
[17:36] <NCS_One> ubutom: what CPU I need to play this ?
[17:36] <Tux_> oCean_: I was hoping there was a magick ubuntu package that helped me not go thru that guide :p
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> corpse:  look in the .gvfs dir  or use some of the fuse tools to mount it to some other location
[17:36] <robertskmiles> Does anyone know the proprietary alternative to mesa openGL for intel integrated graphics cards?
[17:36] <corpse> Dr_Willis: ahh thanks man
[17:37] <robertskmiles> or where I can find out
[17:37] <ubutom> NCS_One, dunno, but I think bluray needs a rather fast one if not accelerated by the graphics card
[17:37] <bcessa> thnx, cya around
[17:37] <ubutom> NCS_One, could also be just a bad encoded video file
[17:37] <oCean_> Tux_: don't think so. Not sure, maybe you'll find more help in ##security?
[17:38] <rafaelsoaresbr> how to free up some disk space using "mount --bind" or symbolic links?
[17:38] <Tux_> oCean_: ah, thanks. I will try :)
[17:38] <banished> Hi, I have a problem with dkms: I have set DEST_MODULE_LOCATION[0]="/kernel/drivers/input/joystick/", but the module gets installed to /lib/modules/2.6.32-22-generic/updates/dkms/ and does not overwrite the existing one, thus the old one gets used
[17:38] <Dr_Willis> rafaelsoaresbr:  that wont 'free' up space.
[17:38] <Dr_Willis> rafaelsoaresbr:  unless you are moving stuff to a differnt hard drive
[17:39] <rafaelsoaresbr> Dr_Willis, that's what I want to do with /var directory
[17:39] <Dr_Willis> rafaelsoaresbr:  move var to a new hd/filesuystem  edit /etc/fstab to point to the new place
[17:39] <rafaelsoaresbr> Dr_Willis, I want to put /var into /backup/var (that is on another partition)
[17:40] <Dr_Willis> rafaelsoaresbr:  in your case then you want to link /var to /backup/var
[17:40] <Dr_Willis> rafaelsoaresbr:  via 'ln -s onething otherthing'
[17:41] <paco_> hola  esto es el canal de ayuda ?
[17:41] <ubutom> !es >paco
[17:41] <ubutom> !es > paco
[17:41] <paco_> hola ?
[17:41] <rafaelsoaresbr> Dr_Willis, doesn't symbolic links causes any trouble? thanks
[17:41] <octosquid> hilarious
[17:42] <ubutom> !es | paco
[17:43] <Dr_Willis> rafaelsoaresbr:  shouldent. ive used them in similer cases for ages
[17:43] <StaRetji> Hello folks, I really need help speeding up boot process. There are some strange delays that I don't understand. Here is dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/446721/ THX!
[17:43] <oCean_> ubutom: use <tab> for nickname completion: type "oce" then, hit <tab> to complete nick oCean_ for example.
[17:44] <ubutom> oCean_, didnt't see that _ , i know how ta completion works ;)
[17:44] <mophead> Hi guys.  What is the name of the package that runs flash in firefox? I think it's adobe something
[17:44] <banished> StaRetji: you should rather consult bootchart
[17:44] <robertskmiles> mophead: adobe-flashplugin i believe
[17:45] <Dr_Willis> runs flash.. or installs flash.. :)
[17:45] <StaRetji> banished: thx, will do that. Will bootchart give me tips on how to speed up / fix the problem?
[17:45] <Dr_Willis> !info flashplugin-installer
[17:45] <gaspard> on my machine 192.168.1.9 i have made a ssh tunnel like ssh -NL 3689:localhost:3689 myuser@myremoteserver but it only work when i connect to localhost... what if i want other computers from the local network to connect to 192.168.1.9 to be redirected to myremoteserver ?
[17:45] <wessel> hello, after reboot my Ubuntu asks me: "OAFIID:GNOME_FastUserSwitchApplet".
[17:45] <wessel> Do you want to delete the applet from your configuration?
[17:45] <wessel> I have no idea
[17:45] <wessel> Do I want to delete it?
[17:45] <mophead> what is the difference between flashplugin-installer and adobe-flashplugin?
[17:45] <wessel> The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_FastUserSwitchApplet".
[17:45] <Dr_Willis> wessel:  you can. it proberly crashed or has some other odd issue
[17:46] <Dr_Willis> mophead:  one does the actual install.. no idea about the other. It may download/build the 2nd package.
[17:46] <gaspard> on netstat, i only get listening from localhost, how do i extend this to all incoming connections ?
[17:46] <banished> StaRetji: you will see what consumes most time
[17:46] <JuJuBee> I downloaded some login themes, where are they stored? I want to distribute them to all workstations in my room.
[17:46] <saineyb> hi
[17:46] <saineyb> how aRE U DOING
[17:46] <saineyb> how aRE U DOING
[17:46] <saineyb> GFH
[17:46] <Dr_Willis> JuJuBee:  GDM themes? You do realize the the gdm in 10.04 dosent use the old gdm themes?
[17:46] <FloodBot1> saineyb: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:47] <The_Blob> gaspard: use the -g option for that
[17:47] <StaRetji> banished: thx man!
[17:47] <JuJuBee> Dr_Willis: KDM actually.
[17:47] <Dr_Willis> JuJuBee:  ahh. No idea on kdm. :)
[17:47] <Dr_Willis> JuJuBee:  that one at least is still themeable i think :)
[17:47] <mophead> Dr_Willis: Thank you.  So does that mean I should download one first, then the other?
[17:47] <gaspard> thnx for the clie The_Blob , i'm investigating
[17:47] <Dr_Willis> mophead:  install the installer package and it does the job of installing flash...
[17:48] <robertskmiles> mophead: just the installer one will do the job
[17:48] <mophead> and if it doesn't...?
[17:48] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[17:48] <Dr_Willis> mophead:  thats its JOB...
[17:48] <robertskmiles> mophead: if it doesnt hten come back
[17:48] <mophead> to clarify: I have this recurring problem where I can play flash video just fine but no audio.
[17:48] <mophead> and some flash doesn't play at all
[17:49] <Dr_Willis> mophead:  Flash is problematic.. thats one of the many reasons linux people tend to hate it.
[17:49] <kiamo> how do I troubleshoot a program that doesn't run after I have installed it in wine?
[17:49] <Dr_Willis> Theres some spefific tweaks out there for flash with no audio
[17:49] <robertskmiles> Sorry to keep repeating this, but does anyone know the proprietary alternative to mesa openGL for intel integrated graphics cards, or where I can find that out?
[17:49] <Dr_Willis> kiamo:  #1 check  the wine app databnase on the app.
[17:49] <Dr_Willis> !appdb | kiamo
[17:49] <viperswan> hiya everyone. i was wondering if anyone could help me witha  quick and hopefully simple question.. I have a usb logitech gamepad/joystick and i'd like to be able to use it without emulating the mouse. everytime i plug it in it functions properly but it also takes over mouse functions, any idea how to prevent this behaviour? thank you in advance for your help
[17:49] <kiamo> Dr_Willis, yea I already looked there, nada :(
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> kiamo:  chweck the wine forums then i guess
[17:50] <dbreddy> how to specify my xserver destination
[17:50] <rafaelsoaresbr> Dr_Willis, /var is 2.1Gb large. I'm going to use apt-mirror and need 34Gb :)
[17:50] <mophead> Dr_Willis : k, I will keep looking for the answer.  I was hoping there was one thing that worked for most people.
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> viperswan:  you mean the gamepad moves the mouse around?
[17:50] <dbreddy> i mean the path of xserver
[17:50] <wessel> could someone recommend me a motherboard sensor application?
[17:50] <wessel> like to monitor CPU temperature and such
[17:50] <kiamo> hmm forums...
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> rafaelsoaresbr:  i just set up one box as an apt-cacher server.
[17:50]  * kiamo goes to look
[17:50] <Cueball> wessel: lm-sensors
[17:51] <bastidrazor> wessel: lmsensors
[17:51] <Dr_Willis> wessel:  dozens of various widgits/docks/applets that can monitor different things. most use lm-sensors to do the real work I think
[17:51] <Cueball> Is security.ubuntu.com slow for anyone else today?
[17:51] <theadmin> Cueball: True.
[17:51] <Dr_Willis> Cueball:  i hear a lot of the servers are slow today.
[17:51] <wessel> cool, ty
[17:52] <Dargon> is there any real difference between ubuntu server and regular ubuntu, cuz im an idiot and cant get kde and x to work right on server, and i likes me some GUI
[17:52] <Dr_Willis> Dargon:  differnt kernel i belive is the main diff. and the packages installed
[17:53] <Dr_Willis> if youw ant a GUI its better to install the desktp., then install the services you want.. then the other way around
[17:53] <Dargon> right
[17:53] <unop> Dargon, why can't you "get kde and x to work right" ?
[17:53] <Dargon> plus with a GUI, i can ask youguys for help while im actually in front of my server :D
[17:53] <Dr_Willis> Dargon:  you did install 'kubuntu-desktop' package ?
[17:53] <Dargon> i forget the error, im not infront of it atm
[17:53] <Dr_Willis> Dargon:  there are console/text based IRC clients. :) weechat and irssi  and others.
[17:54] <Dargon> Dr_Willis: i apt-got kde and x
[17:54] <viperswan> hiya everyone. i was wondering if anyone could help me witha  quick and hopefully simple question.. I have a usb logitech gamepad/joystick and i'd like to be able to use it without emulating the mouse. everytime i plug it in it functions properly but it also takes over mouse functions, any idea how to prevent this behaviour? thank you in advance for your help
[17:54] <saineyb> hi
[17:54] <Cueball> Dargon: you installed kubuntu-desktop?
[17:54] <Dargon> i like irssi, but the GUI is nice for windows and such
[17:54] <Dr_Willis> Dargon:  thats proberly why then. Install 'kubuntu-desktop' if you wan tthe full kde/kubuntu desktop setup
[17:54] <benkong2> hey all apt-get autoremove wants to do this: http://pastebin.com/dmSNb4QU what are the criteria for apt determining what to autoremove?
[17:54] <saineyb> how are u doing
[17:54] <benkong2> looks like I need to keep python-beagle
[17:55] <theadmin> benkong2: If you don't want it to remove a specific package, do "sudo apt-get install package"
[17:55] <MKM> hi..
[17:55] <dotblank> viperswan, this probably involves xorg using the joystick this actually should not be default behaviour
[17:55] <Dargon> thanks doc, you may have saved me re-installing ubuntu for no reason :D
[17:55] <Dargon> helpful people = win
[17:55] <lucenut> I am running ubuntu in Virtualbox on my Windows 7 ultimate x64 PC.
[17:55] <MKM> i hv trouble with sync songs into my ipod in ubuntu...
[17:56] <speart> join #xen
[17:56] <Dargon> Dr_Willis and Cueball win todays helping kyle contest, shiny medals to you both
[17:56] <unop> benkong2, the packages were brought in as dependencies but are no longer dependent upon by other packages ..
[17:56] <lucenut> The best resolution I can get in the VB is 1360x768.
[17:56] <benkong2> theadmin: I realize I can do that I am more curious by what makes the please packages, or any packages get on the list?
[17:56] <dotblank> #xen is the wrong place for virtualbox
[17:56] <lucenut> Is there any hope to going fullscreen like 1900 wide?
[17:56] <benkong2> unop: ok
[17:56] <benkong2> so is
[17:56] <bastidrazor> dotblank: #vbox
[17:56] <vishaltelangre> MKM, from which music player?
[17:56] <Dr_Willis> lucenut:  you did install the virtualbox guest additions?
[17:56] <theadmin> benkong2: I didn't dig much into it, but i know it works
[17:57] <benkong2> ok I'll try I can always reinstall...
[17:57] <User01> does Linux auto detect hardware on boot
[17:57] <Dr_Willis> User01:  for the most part yes.
[17:57] <benkong2> but.... I would like to know the under hood thinking
[17:57] <MKM> vishaltelangre: i hv rhythmbox...
[17:57] <benkong2> thanks
[17:58] <uLinux> ei why updates server is so slow
[17:58] <MKM> vishaltelangre: it wont sync.., the screen dips out
[17:58] <uLinux> ?
[17:58] <lucenut> Dr willis. My buddy came over and installed something the other day that got me to 1360x768. Before that I was at 800x600!
[17:58] <vishaltelangre> MKM, which problem you're getting?
[17:58] <speart> hi, why can't I install the Xen packages?
[17:58] <MKM> vishaltelangre: it wont sync.., the screen dips out
[17:58] <saineyb> hi
[17:58] <User01> cool, is it possible to migrate from desktop to laptop or laptop to laptop with minimal config
[17:58] <uLinux> it's downloading at 113kbs
[17:59] <Dr_Willis> lucenut:  if you have the virtualbox guest addons installed. then ive no other ideas. it could be a vbox limit. Check the vbox docs/forums
[17:59] <speart> it lists xen-tools as a dependency, but there isn't such package
[17:59] <Dr_Willis> User01:  clarify what you mean by migrate from X to Y?
[17:59] <lucenut> guest addons is in ubuntu?
[17:59] <wng-> I'm having trouble with an ubuntu machine, when i SSH into it, it will randomly drop the conntection (write failed: broken pipe) then complain that the RSA host key changed. A few minutes later the RSA host key is back to normal and i can connect
[17:59] <jileen> hi, where is the path of the installed theme of firefox, i need to modify the css thx
[17:59] <ryann_> Hey all. I'm currently running windows 7 and am wondering that if create a anew partition for Ubuntu LTS, would i still be able to choose which OS when I turn my pc on?
[17:59] <lucenut> Can I verify that's installed by looking somewhere?
[17:59] <Dr_Willis> lucenut:  virtualbox has sopecial drivers you install in the guest os to get maximum features. Check teh vbox docs for details
[17:59] <User01> dr.Willis installing ubuntu on one laptop and running it on another
[18:00] <lucenut> "Guest OS" is windows?
[18:00] <Dr_Willis> User01:  you mean moveing the hd from one to antoher?
[18:00] <Izinucs> lucenut: every time you upgrade vbox you have to reinstall the guest additions then restart.. to go full screen try Right CTRL + F .. the same combination to return to  a windowed vm
[18:00] <Dr_Willis> lucenut:  No.. windows running vbox running linux.. windows is the HOST..
[18:00] <ryann_> Well, not 'still choose' but, be able to to choose.
[18:00] <SakurabaNeku> hi, whenever I try to install anything with the Ubuntu Software Center I get
[18:00] <SakurabaNeku> "Requires installation of untrusted package
[18:00] <SakurabaNeku> The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources."
[18:00] <Izinucs> lucenut: restart the guest that is.
[18:00] <SakurabaNeku> Does anyone know what to do?
[18:00] <dbreddy> how to specify the path of x server when running ssh
[18:00] <MKM> ryann : yes after u install ubuntu it will also have its grub, der u can choose ur os
[18:00] <User01> dr_willis: yes
[18:01] <User01> ?
[18:01] <vishaltelangre> MKM, means your desktop also freeze down or something other situation?
[18:01] <Dr_Willis> Host runs Vbox.. vbox runs the Guest OS.
[18:01] <MKM> ryann_: yes after u install ubuntu it will also have its grub, der u can choose ur os
[18:01] <Tetraz> Hello guys! I have an S3 UniChrome Pro graphics card and running ubuntu 10.04 are there any drivers for this card? as it is now it's extremely chopy
[18:01] <jileen>  where is the path of the  theme of firefox ? i need to modify the css
[18:01] <ryann_> mkm: so if I installed Ubuntnu from a USB, i'd be able to choose which OS i want to boot?
[18:01] <Dargon> Dr_Willis: will it screw with kubuntu-desktop since i already apt-got kde and xinit?
[18:01] <Dr_Willis> Tetraz:  i would say - the outlook is not good.
[18:02] <MKM> vishaltelangre: the application asks me to force quit...
[18:02] <Dr_Willis> Dargon:  shouldent
[18:02] <User01> dr_willis: from hdd to hdd using different systems
[18:02] <User01> but the same hdd
[18:02] <Dr_Willis> User01:  you mean install to pc1, 'backup' and restore to pc2'
[18:02] <Dr_Willis> ?
[18:02] <Tetraz> Dr_Willis: okey..well I think i'm going to ditch this computer anyway
[18:03] <vishaltelangre> MKM, which application, rythmbox? Had your rythmbox works when your iPod is not plugged w/ your machine?
[18:03] <Dr_Willis> Tetraz:  via, and s3 and some of the 'not  big players' videos cards are best avoided. :)
[18:03] <MKM> ryann_: yes the grub loader will show u the options at the time of ur boot and u can select ur choice there...
[18:03] <ryann_> MKM: last I installed Ubuntu, Windows 7 wasn't there,,
[18:04] <Tetraz> Dr_Willis: yeah well this computer is already abit old so i think I will make a server of it instead
[18:04] <MKM> vishaltelangre: yes everything works fine, bt only if i want to sync songs it hangs and asks me to force quit...
[18:04] <viperswan> hiya everyone. i was wondering if anyone could help me witha  quick and hopefully simple question.. I have a usb logitech gamepad/joystick and i'd like to be able to use it without emulating the mouse. everytime i plug it in it functions properly but it also takes over mouse functions, any idea how to prevent this behaviour? thank you in advance for your help
[18:05] <carlosgaldino> Which is the best tool to record the dekstop? I tried recordmydesktop but it's too slow and I can't close it so I gave up on it, is there another tool?
[18:05] <dotblank> !joystick
[18:05] <Balgan> recordmydesktop works fine carlosgaldino
[18:05] <wessel> the lm-sensors guide says: "run /etc/init.d/module-init-tools" (from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780) but how do I run this exactly?
[18:05] <ubutom> ryann_, win 7 bootloader will be availabe through grub menu, may appear as vista loader
[18:06] <Dr_Willis> viperswan:  you mean you move the stick and the pointer moves? or what excatly?
[18:06] <VCoolio> jileen: somewhere in ~/.mozilla/firefox/???.desktop/...
[18:06] <wessel> wessel@wegumar7:~/Desktop$ sudo /etc/init.d/module-init-tools
[18:06] <wessel> Usage: /etc/init.d/module-init-tools COMMAND
[18:06] <VCoolio> jileen: somewhere in ~/.mozilla/firefox/???.prfile/...
[18:06] <vishaltelangre> MKM, yeah, this been a problem while you syncing your i-Devices w/ ubuntu.. One solution I found here:
[18:06] <carlosgaldino> Balgan: is it too slow when enconding the video? and i can't close it
[18:06] <MKM> ryann_: u might have probably formatted the entire memory.., this time create a partition in your windows the when u install ubuntu it will asks you to manualy set the space for the installation,then select the free space and install your ubuntu
[18:06] <User01> dr_willis: I mean just a fresh install on pc1 and than swapping and running on  pc2  since it overheats and I can't install  purposes
[18:06] <Dr_Willis> User01:  that should work. Try it and see
[18:07] <Dr_Willis> User01:  when you start installing special drivers, like for nvidia and ati, then that can cause issues with moveing the hd about
[18:07] <vishaltelangre> MKM, Sync your iPhone/iPod Music Libary With Rhythmbox in Ubuntu Karmic (No Jailbreaking Required) - http://goo.gl/4CWH
[18:07] <djveer> is there something I can use to watch Quicktime videos with Firefox on Ubuntu?
[18:07] <ryann_> ubutom: right, it's just last time I did this, it overwrote my windows 7 loader.
[18:07] <uLinux> Synaptic > Prefereces > Files > History: Keep history?  What is this? History of what?
[18:08] <Dr_Willis> djveer:  vlc. mplayer + the w32codecs and totem + proper pcakges can watch those I recall. BUT if you mean In the browser at apples  homepage.. well  that may be harder.
[18:08] <vishaltelangre> MKM, I hope it'll might work w/ your machine if you've 9.04/9.10/10.04...
[18:08] <MKM> vishaltelangre: i use karmic.., same problem.., it just dips out..., any other soln..??
[18:08] <Dr_Willis> djveer:   there might be some extensions that let you download then watch the clips
[18:08] <uLinux> Synaptic > Preferences > Files > History: Keep history?    History of what?
[18:08] <User01> dr_willis: ubuntu installs those automatically right?
[18:08] <djveer> Dr_Willis: Thanks!
[18:08] <MKM> vishaltelangre: i ment.., i use 10.04..,lucid same problem.., it just dips out..., any other soln..??
[18:09] <vishaltelangre> MKM, had you tried the solution, which was posted in that article?
[18:09] <Dr_Willis> User01:  nvidia and ati - run the hardware-drivers tool. (or jockey-gtk)
[18:09] <ubutom> User01, I never had a problem swapping hds  of different machines, though it was the standard kernel, switched  hd from amd to intel board, and between old pcs that i used as server
[18:09] <Tetraz> what brand of laptops are usually the most compatible with linux platforms?
[18:09] <ulkn> ryann_: you should have an independent means to backup and restore the first couple of sectors of your disk, because things might go wrong. after all, ubuntu overwrites your mbr with grub...
[18:10] <Dr_Willis> Tetraz:  ive heard avoide toshiba
[18:10] <User01> okay I will let the guy know who is fixing my computer it's more than possible
[18:10]  * Chriisti Hello Community 
[18:10] <ryann_> ulkn: how can I prevent this? or at least have windows 7 loader pre-written (so to speak) in the grub loader.
[18:10] <User01> he said he has a 25 dollar flat fee
[18:10] <ubutom> ryann_, you can choose the destination of grub at installation in a dialog called advanced or something like that, it's after partitioning iirc
[18:10] <Tetraz> Dr_Willis: hehe strange i've got a toshiba laptop that just works fine for me :)
[18:10] <Dr_Willis> User01:  $25 to do what> move a hd from one pc to another?
[18:11] <ulkn> ryann_: does your windows 7 loader offer you the choice to boot other systems on other partitions?
[18:11] <uLinux> Synaptic > Preferences > Files > History: Keep history?    History of what?
[18:11] <ryann_> ubutom: yes, I'm aware of how it's installed, I've done it numerous times.
[18:11] <Dr_Willis> Tetraz:  even under windows - ive seen a great meny people with MAJOR issues with Toshibas - i dont plan on ever getting one any time soon.
[18:11] <ryann_> ulkn: nope, straight into windows 7.
[18:11] <vishaltelangre> MKM, Hey there, this may work out, try: Easy Way To Sync Your iPhone / iPod Touch With Rhythmbox, Nautilus, Etc. In Ubuntu - http://goo.gl/dFf0
[18:11] <User01> so in your opinion even if he tried to install an os and failed should he still be charging me 25 bucks
[18:11] <ubutom> ryann_, win 7 will most certainly primary partition for it's loader, so you choose another location for grub
[18:11] <User01> dr_willis: yes
[18:11] <ubutom> *most certainly use*
[18:12] <ryann_> ubutom: you sure that's possible?
[18:12] <ubutom> did it several times ryann_
[18:12] <Dr_Willis> User01:  installing ubuntu is rather trivial.. moving a HD from one desktop pc to antoher is also rather trivial.. :)
[18:12] <User01> for installing an os on pc1 and moving to pc 2
[18:12] <DCGstudios> Hey guys, Anyone know if a CUPS print server is going to be compatible with both windows and mac OS hosts?
[18:12] <Dr_Willis> User01:  and both are the kind of tasks you should learn...
[18:12] <Dr_Willis> User01:  30 min to install.. 5 min to move.. perhaps..
[18:13] <wessel> Dr_Willis, this "OAFIID:GNOME_FastUserSwitchApplet", I think it removed my power down button :(
[18:13] <Dr_Willis> User01:  but why not install on  the other one to begin eith?
[18:13] <Dr_Willis> wessel:  so? You cn still use the logout menu. or just reset the panels.
[18:13] <Dr_Willis> !resetpanel
[18:13] <Dr_Willis> wessel:  or add it back.
[18:13] <User01> dr_willis: yes but he claims to be a 4 year student with a 25 dollar flat fee
[18:13] <erUSUL> DCGstudios: it should; ipp is a standar. and you could use samba too for the windows clients
[18:13] <ubutom> ryann_, you can use the root partition of linux, I think then this partition is made active, if not do it manually, can even be done with windows onboard tools
[18:13] <erUSUL> DCGstudios: Mac OS X uses cups too
[18:13] <Dr_Willis> User01:  i dont see why that matters in any way..
[18:14] <ubutom> ryann_, I mean you can use the root partition for grub
[18:14] <ryann_> ubutom: so, create a new partition for my ubuntu install, make it active, and then install ubuntu?
[18:14] <ubutom> ryann_, win7 should be untouched and unaware ;)
[18:14] <User01> he hasn't tried this method if it fails I won't hold it against him
[18:14] <ironfoot495> Hi I have install Darwin Streaming server and I can't get to work properly. Can someone give a good source on how to use it ???
[18:14] <nikin> what application is triggered when a modem is inserted in lucid?
[18:14] <DCGstudios> urUSUL, oh okay, well i knew smb servers would be cross compatable with them all, but CUPS will work as well with the windows clients?
[18:14] <Dr_Willis> User01:  I still dont see the point in the install, then move...
[18:14] <ryann_> ubutom: okay, thanks for that. It's just, last time it nerfed my entire install, and getting all my files back was a pickle..
[18:14] <ubutom> ryann_, I think the part of making active is done when you choose the linux partition for grub install automatically
[18:14] <uLinux> Synaptic > Preferences > Files > History: Keep history?   History of what? Can I delete it?
[18:15] <MKM> vishaltelangre: thnks ..:-)
[18:15] <help111> hey everyone
[18:15] <nikin> i have a huewei E220 which fails to trigger it.. but if i put my sony ericsson modem next to it, then both are detected
[18:15] <help111> need some help installation
[18:15] <Dr_Willis> User01:  in the time we have been chatting.. ive doen an install to a pc.
[18:15] <uLinux> ei
[18:15] <ubutom> ryann_, backup is always recommended, but it shouldn't mess anything up
[18:15] <User01> but I'd like him to give it a shot since I can't and do it and I paid for some reliable service, my laptop overheats
[18:15] <ryann_> ubutom, alright, thanks. peace.
[18:15] <help111> which filesystem shud i choose for installing ubuntu?
[18:15] <User01> and won't take0n a live cd
[18:15] <User01> or USB boot
[18:15] <Dr_Willis> User01:  you think some how ubuntu is going to make the laptop Not overheat?
[18:15] <help111> ext3 or ext4 ?
[18:16] <help111> or jst ntfs?
[18:16] <Dr_Willis> User01:  you could also have installed from a flash drive, not a cd/optical drive
[18:16] <derrick_> Hello. I have a video editing issue. I have a mpweg-1 avi video and a mps3 audio. How can I combine the. Avidemux just crashes if I tr it in there, and I don't want to transcode to another format, just insert the audio stream...
[18:16] <User01> dr_williss should have opted for somebody else than perhaps lol :(
[18:16] <derrick_> mpeg & mp3*
[18:16] <vishaltelangre> MKM, read comments on second article before going up... the ppa link in post may be broken, fixed is commented in comments' section!
[18:16] <kiamo> aw man!  Filesystem has become unreadable again T_T
[18:16] <DCGstudios> User01, overheating with laptops is MUCH different then a normal PC, its controlled with a series of heat pipes which tunnel the heat out of the back of the laptop, the battery heat itself generally doesnt matter.
[18:16] <Take0n> User01 ?? :P
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[18:16] <help111> Which filesystem 2 choose?
[18:16] <help111> ext3 or ext4?
[18:16] <Dr_Willis> help111:  for what purpose?
[18:17] <mophead> OK everyone, Dr_Willis .  I got the audio working by opening firefox and using about:config and about: plugins to completely sudo rm -f all of the version 9 flash.  Then I installed flashplugin-installer and it worked!  Details found here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1469306&page=3 Thank you all again.
[18:17] <derrick_> help, ext4 is latest
[18:17] <help111> for installing ubuntu..
[18:17] <coz_> derrick_,  mm I am not much into video editing but there are other applicatons  "Handbrake"  is one  "pitivi"  another
[18:17] <MKM> vishaltelangre: k will do..., thnx:-)
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> Help111: for flash based storage use ext2. Otherwise ext4 is fine
[18:17] <help111> i already have windows 7
[18:17] <help111> dual booting now.
[18:17] <Dr_Willis> help111:  the installre reccomends ext4 for a reason normally
[18:17] <User01> can't install from the desired laptop at all
[18:17] <derrick_> coz_, s ut h requre trancoding.I need to just *isert the srea
[18:17] <help111> Dr_Willis: hav 3gb for swap.. now tell me filesys for installing ubuntu on 17gb.
[18:17] <User01> drwillis I should have stated it only overhears on os installs
[18:18] <User01> overheats*
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> Help111: ext4 will be fine
[18:18] <help111> alright.
[18:18] <Take0n> User01, tried to open and clean your laptop (fans etc.)?
[18:18] <coz_> derrick_,  mmm   well...as I mentioned... I am not nearly a expert on video editing... I am sure someone here... at least at some point...would know :)
[18:18] <Dr_Willis> help111:  you install Linxu to a linux filesystem.. ext2/3/4 normally
[18:18] <Dr_Willis> help111:  you dont install to fat/ntfs or other windows filesystems.
[18:19] <uLinux> tks for not helping
[18:19] <ohir> User01: are you talkin about moving physical hdd or copying its content to another pc?
[18:19] <User01> takeon everything except parting it out
[18:19] <User01> moving a physical hdd
[18:19] <vishaltelangre> help111, go for ext4, enhanced support...
[18:19] <Dr_Willis> User01:  get a laptop pad-fan...
[18:19] <help111> ActionParsnip: Dr_Willis can anyone tell me wud my other ntfs drives be readable thn?
[18:19] <Dr_Willis> User01:  and give it a good cleaning also.
[18:19] <Dr_Willis> help111:  linux can mouint and access ntfs.. yes.
[18:20] <User01> drwillis thanks for the sugestion
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> Help111: ntfs partitions are read and writable. You don't get ntfs drives ;)
[18:20] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs | help111
[18:20] <User01> but I stuck it up to my ac still to no avail
[18:20] <help111> Dr_Willis: thanks :) also m starting to dual boot now.. so now?
[18:20] <vishaltelangre> help111, linux can read almost what are you seeing there in the drop-down list
[18:20] <ohir> User01: if machine overheats at os install time it will be overheating too at any more demanding task (as mp3/mpeg play)
[18:20] <Dr_Willis> help111:  so now what? be a bit more clear in your questions
[18:20] <Dr_Willis> !manual | help111
[18:21] <User01> ohir the funny thing is it's not
[18:21] <ohir> User01: box realy need to be treated with compressed air can plus vacuum cleaner :)
[18:21] <Dr_Willis> help111:  from windows you could just resize the windows partition and leave part of the HD unallocated. and boot the cd. and tell the installer to use the unalocated space.. it can auto partition and be working on the install in a matter of minets.
[18:22] <User01> ohir lol tried a can of compressed air hehe ^^
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> Help111: if you are just starting a dual boot you should install windows to only a portion of the drive space and leave unpartitioned space for the other OSes. Saves having to mess around with resizing
[18:23] <vishaltelangre> help111: or you may free some space from your windows and use it to install your ubuntu
[18:23] <ohir> User01: I don't know then what might cause overheating at install time, install is not that computational power demanding task
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> User01: if your system is a branded thing or a laptop you may want to check if it has heat issues and how to fix it
[18:24] <User01> ohir: yeah it is sketchy lolz
[18:24] <sparkie> hello i need a little help my boot loader must have messed up during install now when i boot i come up to a menu that says grub> is there a way to boot and fix ?
[18:24] <ohir> User01: to remember is: you can freely move ubuntu on hd as long as it is not set up with proprietary nvidia/ati drivers and is moved to same architecture
[18:24] <help111> ActionParsnip: vishaltelangre Dr_Willis i have installed win7 already, even have kept 17gb for ubuntu n 3gb for swap.. now the question is it wud write the mbr
[18:24] <User01> ohir: Ok
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> Help111: the installer will detect and configure the dual boot for you
[18:25] <help111> ActionParsnip: vishaltelangre Dr_Willis so how do i dual boot as the mbr wud b overwritten.. isnt it? or ubuntu wud create a dual boot menu ??
[18:25] <hiexpo> was reading online and it looks like getdeb lots its server may not be back
[18:25] <help111> ActionParsnip: thanks :)
[18:25] <help111> thank you everyone..
[18:25] <help111> afk
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> Help111: I recommend 6gb for / and the rest for /home
[18:26] <User01> i can always install new ati drivers but last time I could not find the right ones to work for compiz :)
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> Help111: makes reinstalls easier (as well as backups)
[18:26] <ohir> User01: if you would copy it after, you need to remember to rewrite your /etc/fstab and grub configuration old (normal and sane) style. Aka without UUIDS.
[18:26] <User01> in the meantime I could use generic ones
[18:26] <wessel> How to check if my GPU gets sufficient cooling?
[18:26] <sparkie> hello i need a little help my boot loader must have messed up during install now when i boot i come up to a menu that says grub> is there a way to boot and fix ?
[18:26] <vishaltelangre> help111, It'll create mbr itself and install a grub bootloader to select out the installed systems
[18:27] <wessel> there is not GPU information in my :~ $ sensors  http://pastebin.com/mzd4FHHQ
[18:27] <wessel> :-/
[18:27] <User01> ohir: copy what after my friend
[18:28] <ohir> User01: ubuntu installed on one pc/hd to another pc/hd.
[18:28] <User01> ohir: yes
[18:29] <sparkie> so can any one help me?
[18:29] <User01> ohir: that's all I can ask for hehe
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> Sparkie: boot to live cd and reinstall grub is one way
[18:29] <aucormie> sparkie...you may have to boot up witha  livecd
[18:30] <aucormie> chroot into your root directory and run grub-reinstall /dev/sda
[18:30] <aucormie> let me see if I can find you good directions
[18:30] <sparkie> ActionParsnip:  aucormie  i have no way to boot the live cd i used a usb and my bios dont support booting it
[18:30] <User01> if he's got an nv card and i have ati l will it sometimes autodetect hardware on boot
[18:30] <sparkie> i used plop boot attached to my bootloader to boot the usb
[18:31] <Guest54854> hi ..  In youtube when I click on the progress bar / maximize button it has no effect ..  When I keep clicking by moving the mouse pointer slightly again and again at some time it works ... Has anybody faced this problem ?? I have another site where any of my clicks on flash is not working .. Any solutions for this ???
[18:31] <sparkie> so is there a way todo it where im at right now?>
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> Sparkie: you can get grub floppys to then kick off a usb bootup
[18:31] <aucormie> sparkie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Recover%20Grub%202%20via%20LiveCD
[18:31] <derrick_> for anyone that wants to combine a video and audio file, the cmd ffmpeg -i yourvid -i youraudio -map 0:0 -map 1:0 --aspect 16:9 output
[18:31] <nerdy_kid> anyone know how to check a luks encrypted ext4 filesystem for errors?
[18:31] <derrick_> will do it i believe
[18:31] <ubutom> User01, shouldn't be much of a problem
[18:31] <aucormie> sparkie: it may be possible, but its really hard and very specific to your configuration
[18:32] <sl0ppy> how does ubuntu configure itself to handle various hardware during boot? does it autodetect hardware and load modules like knoppix?
[18:32] <aucormie> liveCD is only sure way
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> Derrick_: make a script which takes args ;) makes life easier if you use it a lot of times
[18:32] <User01> ubutom okay I'll be all smiles then lol
[18:32] <User01> thanks guys
[18:32] <ubutom> sl0ppy, think it's a pretty generic kernel and the drivers are autodetected
[18:32] <viperswan> hiya everyone. i was wondering if anyone could help me witha  quick and hopefully simple question.. I have a usb logitech gamepad/joystick and i'd like to be able to use it without emulating the mouse. everytime i plug it in it functions properly but it also takes over mouse functions, any idea how to prevent this behaviour? thank you in advance for your help.
[18:32] <derrick_> ActionParsnip, would, but I don't script bash
[18:32] <sl0ppy> i'm always wondering how it does the driver loading
[18:33] <User01> :P
[18:34]  * Dr_Willis wonders what gamepad viperswan  has - so he can get one to let him controll the mouse via a gamepad..
[18:34] <erUSUL> sl0ppy: the kernel does the hardware detection and loading of modules in most cases
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> Derrick_: instead of yourvid use $1 and instead of youraudio use $2 and instead of output use $3 in a bash script. You can call it something like foo, you can now run: foo vid audio output ,and the filenames will be used in the script
[18:34] <sl0ppy> erUSUL: how does it know what modules to load
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> Sl0ppy: look into udev ;)
[18:35] <erUSUL> sl0ppy: pci id or usb id's
[18:35] <xtalmath> does anyone know of a good file format reverse engineering tool? id like to search for floating point values, but I dont know how precise my numbers extracted from the reader are, and how they are stored.
[18:35] <derrick_> ActionParsnip, i know that much, just got my own things to do...
[18:35] <sl0ppy> ok thanks
[18:35] <ulkn> Guest54854: adobe flash is known broken. if you can't live without flash, the correct solution for you is to use windows
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> Sl0ppy: it doesn't always get it right and the system needs telling ;)
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> Ulkn: how is it broken?
[18:36]  * Dr_Willis gives flash a C- on its linux support. :()
[18:36] <Dr_Willis> but it does work for me most of the time at least
[18:37] <ubutom> I thought just the 64 bit flash is buggy
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willis: 64bit native linux flash isn't too shabby support in my book
[18:37] <Dr_Willis> ubutom:  ive herad many people in here have good luck with the 64bit
[18:37] <Dr_Willis> ubutom:  See :)
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> Ubutom: its alpha but isn't bad at all
[18:37] <sl0ppy> all my systems have used pretty much static fat kernels
[18:37] <drizzt_> anyone here knows how to enable HW acceleration in Radeon X800-series? The shitty opensores driver allows me only to run compiz
[18:37] <ubutom> Dr_Willis, I got some problems on my 64 bit desktop, not able to use the slider and so on on youtube
[18:37] <sl0ppy> since i just install on one box using one config of hardware
[18:38] <sl0ppy> i'm stuck in my old ways
[18:38] <d0x> Hi, i need the asm/semaphore.h for compiling a driver. Could someone help me to find the packaging containing this file(s)?
[18:38] <ubutom> ActionParsnip, yeah, it works, but some minor flaws like mentioned above
[18:38] <drizzt_> games have <1 fps
[18:38] <nerdy_kid> how do i force fsck.ext4 to check a filesystem?  I tried touching forcefsk in the root of the partition in trying to check but no help
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> Guest54854: if you remove all flash plugins and use the command on the ubuntu flash doc you can get 64bit flash which doesn't use crappy nspluginwrapper
[18:38] <ahabman> How can one copy a full path and file name in one swoop?  Terminal or Nautilus.
[18:38] <Guest85921> hello everyone, there is this amsn port test tool which tells me whether these ports are ok for use with it. Is there another app i can do this sort of testing ? Already tried "nc -v -z -w2" on the ports and they do not show, even if they are ok
[18:38] <drizzt_> I have RV515 chipset if it matters
[18:39] <nerdy_kid> nvm got it
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> Ubutom. Drizzt_: runs fine on my intel vga. Dual core 1.2ghz craptop
[18:39] <rakesh> hello a new b here
[18:39] <rakesh> can some one help me pls
[18:40] <ubutom> ActionParsnip, hehe, hey, that's no craptop :P Try using my 1Ghz Celeron with S3 graphics and temperature of the sun ;D
[18:40] <erUSUL> !ask | rakesh
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> Ubutom. Drizzt_: as well am my nvidia 6150. Sempron64 1.6ghz desktop
[18:40] <vivgrn> i have a dell xps M 1530 . anyone using the xps studios ? are both these using the same kind of battery?  if this is not the right channel  ...  tell me where to ask such queries?
[18:40] <rakesh> thanks erUSUL
[18:40] <drizzt_> ActionParsnip, I'm not talking about flash
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> Ubutom: yeah I never buy sysytems with s3 things
[18:40] <rakesh> i installed lucid linux today on my system in vmware
[18:40] <erUSUL> rakesh: done nothing yet ;)
[18:41] <ubutom> ActionParsnip, me neither, got it very cheap a few years ago, might replace it soon
[18:41] <rakesh> the look and feel of this is like ubuntu desktop
[18:41] <rakesh> can u help me how  i can change this to notebook edition look and feel???
[18:41] <h00k> vivgrn: this isn't the right channel, check with Dell's documentation probably
[18:42] <derrick_> Could someone tell me why I am getting a c fault error, http://paste.ubuntu.com/446751/
[18:42] <derrick_> This is avidemux. combining a avi and wav file, same with avi and mp3
[18:42] <rakesh> erUSUL can u pls help me
[18:43] <acicula> vivgrn, dell will list the type of batteries that are compatible
[18:43] <viperswan> hiya everyone. i was wondering if anyone could help me witha  quick and hopefully simple question.. I have a usb logitech gamepad/joystick and i'd like to be able to use it without emulating the mouse. everytime i plug it in it functions properly but it also takes over mouse functions, any idea how to prevent this behaviour? thank you in advance for your help.
[18:43] <erUSUL> rakesh: you can install the ubuntu-netbook metapackage. never tried it myself though
[18:43] <erUSUL> !info ubuntu-netbook
[18:43] <shazzr> !info flash
[18:44] <vivgrn1> acicula: how can i find that out. i have been trying to do that but to no avail till now
[18:44] <shazzr> !info gcompris
[18:44] <rakesh> where can i download that erUSUL
[18:44] <shazzr> !info java
[18:44] <rafaelsoaresbr> I did "cp --recursive --preserve=all /var /backup/var" and got "cp: reading '/var/lib/ureadahead/debugfs/ieee80211/phy0/statistics/dot11RTSSuccessCount' : Operation not suported. What's wrong?"
[18:44] <acicula> vivgrn, err you have to find the laptops product page or dells support page, im sure it'll have a list of compatible part numbers, if not you can always ask dell support directly via chat/email/phone what parts you need?
[18:44] <erUSUL> rakesh: use synaptic... System>Admin...> Synaptic. There are other ubuntu-netbook packages you may have to install
[18:45] <slow-motion> bye
[18:45] <goldins> hi how do I install sun's java?
[18:45] <erUSUL> !java | goldins
[18:45] <acicula> goldins, enable partner repo and you can install it
[18:45] <drizzt_> rafaelsoaresbr, exclude this directory then
[18:45] <The_Blob> rafaelsoaresbr: it cant copy the debugfs that's in there, either unmount it or add -x to cp so it restructs itself to one filesystem
[18:45] <Pip> Hello, I'm trying to recover my grub and when I was doing chroot from live CD 9.10, I got errors : chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Exec format error
[18:46] <The_Blob> *restricts
[18:46] <rakesh> hurray!!!!! i got it!!!! ill try installing and let u know erUSUL
[18:46] <RunnerGeek> is it just me or are the repositories slow?
[18:46] <rakesh> also can u pls tell me how to avoid the ubuntu from asking passwords everytime????
[18:47] <Pici> RunnerGeek: Its not just you.
[18:47] <RunnerGeek> rakesh everytime for what? login?
[18:47] <RunnerGeek> sweet
[18:47] <vivgrn1> acicula: battery .... its the worst that dell uses
[18:47] <RunnerGeek> ok when I try to install restricted extras it says the package is not found
[18:47] <drizzt_> any idea about Radeon X800 and opengl acceleration in Linux??
[18:48] <ntr0py> Has someone an idea how i can wait with gdm start for nvidia drivers beeing ready?
[18:48] <Pici> RunnerGeek: What is the exact package name that you are using?
[18:48] <RunnerGeek> ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:48] <rakesh> hello <RunnerGeek> thanks for ur reply... no during login, but after login if i want to go to package manager or something similar it asks for a password
[18:48] <acicula> vivgrn1, err?
[18:49] <Chriisti> I have a problem, someone can help me? -> http://i47.tinypic.com/2zhgytf.png
[18:49] <Pici> RunnerGeek: You'll need to make sure that you have the multiverse repository enabled.
[18:49] <RunnerGeek> Pici, yeah I did that, but no go
[18:49] <shazzr> 3
[18:49] <ulkn> rakesh: consider using a one-letter password, or, the system permitting, a zero-letter one
[18:50] <RunnerGeek> rakesh, I don't think you can disable that unless you login as root, which is a bad idea
[18:50] <Pici> RunnerGeek: Did you issue an apt-get update afterwards/
[18:50] <RunnerGeek> pici yup
[18:50] <help111> !help
[18:50] <banker247> whats a good movie player?
[18:50] <RunnerGeek> ulkn, that is bad advice
[18:50] <Pici> RunnerGeek: Does apt-cache policy ubuntu-restricted-extras list any candidates?
[18:50] <RunnerGeek> banker247, vlc
[18:50] <ulkn> RunnerGeek: in your *opinion*
[18:51] <RunnerGeek> Pici, ah not it is working, not sure what the deal was
[18:51] <Pici> RunnerGeek: Okay, /shrug
[18:51] <kreppnar> anyone else here having problems with the program gnomad2 segment faulting?
[18:51] <acicula> ulkn, setting a one letter password is a bad idea
[18:51] <banker247> will it provide codecs to play like in firefox?
 how can i login as root ?? let me give a try.... i never get root in the list of login names.......
[18:51] <acicula> ulkn, the system will tell you it is a bad idea when you try to set it
[18:51] <help111> wats the mount point to select at installation?
[18:51] <Pici> !sudo | rakesh
[18:51] <help111> !guide
[18:51] <RunnerGeek> rakesh, that is a bad idea, it makes your system very insecure
[18:51] <piyushmishra> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/PHP-SEO/Profitable-website.html rofl
[18:51] <help111> !guide
[18:52] <Pici> !ot | piyushmishra
[18:52] <help111> !install
[18:52] <piyushmishra> Pici: lol its too funny
[18:52] <RunnerGeek> rakesh, you only have to put in your password when you do administrative actions, it is a good thing as it protects your system
[18:52] <Pici> piyushmishra: Its not on-topic for this channel.
[18:52] <piyushmishra> Pici: I understand sorry
 ok , i got it,,, but still i want to login as a root and see wat all i can do more in my system... i just wat to give a try...
[18:53] <help111> wat should b selected as mount point? as /boot or /home or wat?
[18:54] <adaro> rakesh: Sudo su
[18:54] <RunnerGeek> rakesh, you can't do "more" you just won't be asked for passwords
 oh ok ok!!!!
[18:54] <Pici> adaro, rakesh: sudo su is redundant, use sudo -i or sudo -s, depending on what you want to do.
[18:54] <rakesh> by the way wats the default password for root??
[18:54] <help111> hey anyone? mount point while installating? / or /boot or /home or wat?
[18:54] <RunnerGeek> Pici, we where discussing logging in as root not just having a root terminal
[18:55] <Daekdroom> rakesh, it doesn't have a password
[18:55] <help111> RunnerGeek: can u help me out?
[18:55] <RunnerGeek> help111, just a big / is fine
[18:55] <help111> okay thanks RunnerGeek
[18:55] <kreppnar> anyone here have a Creatie Zen W Vision?
[18:55] <sparkie> kk once i reach the ubuntu live cd how to reinstall grub?
[18:55] <RunnerGeek> but having a /home isn't bad
[18:55] <Jordan_U> help111: I think you are probably better off going with the guided partitioning.
[18:55] <rakesh> oh wow!!!! ok ... today in class my professor told me that there is a username called "sa" and its password is also "sa" thru which v can login is it true in ubuntu???
[18:56] <RunnerGeek> if you make your own /home can easily do a fresh reinstall and not loose your stuff
[18:56] <help111> Jordan_U: wat guided partitioning? i
[18:56] <Jordan_U> sparkie: http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[18:56] <need-help> Can i create html page for web site by phpmyadmin in ubuntu?
[18:56] <help111> Jordan_U: i have the partitions ready actually
[18:56] <RunnerGeek> rakesh, I am unaware of any sa user in any unix based OS
[18:56] <help111> Jordan_U:  chcking. .
 hmmmm
[18:56] <Pici> rakesh: That sounds like you are talking about some rdbms (database) software, not Ubuntu.
[18:57] <RunnerGeek> need-help, no; phpmyadmin is a web based administrative tool for mySQL
 no no!!!! he clearly told its there in linux
[18:57] <kriss3d> Dang. Aparently when i try to boot in recovery mode the text is nothing but alot of small colored squares in the top of my screen. i have to guess my way to log in. what could be wrong ?
[18:57] <resno> need-help: what do you mean create html? you can copy your page into ahtml file.
[18:57] <adaro> rakesh: Are you sure he wasnt talking about the database
[18:57] <Jordan_U> rakesh: He was probably talking about your schools particular setup either way.
[18:57] <Pici> rakesh: Then you should talk to him about it, as there is no sa user on Ubuntu (or any Linux distro I have used personally).
[18:57] <rafaelsoaresbr> The_Blob, thanks, '-x' seems to work, I want to move /var to another location.
[18:58] <help111> Jordan_U: so wat is guided partitioning?
 no.... he told when v forget the root username and pwd also v can use this and gain accesss to system
[18:58] <RunnerGeek> need-help, you can create an html page with any editor (gedit, vi, emacs)
[18:58] <help111> Jordan_U: i have my partitiosn ready 2 install .. jst wanted 2 know wat /home mount as means actually .
 hmmmm ill ask him again
[18:58] <ulkn> acicula: if you don't run a badly configured sshd, weak passwords shouldn't be a problem, except it gives worms a local root access, which they have anyway....
[18:58] <help111> anyways going with /
[18:58] <help111> RunnerGeek: jst choosing / wud giv me all isnt it?
[18:59] <RunnerGeek> need-help, but if you want a WYSIWYG editor try  NVU
[18:59] <pleasuredom> hi does anyone has a good software to convert flac into mp3
[18:59] <frxstrem> pleasuredom: ffmpeg?
[18:59] <help111> RunnerGeek: as in wud make it my cmplete ubuntu drive irght?
[18:59] <help111> right*
[18:59] <help111> partition*
[18:59] <need-help> RunnerGeek, i need to create a html page on remote site. If login with admin password then i got phpmyadmin only
[18:59] <RunnerGeek> help111, well it would make one parition for your whole install, yes
[18:59] <help111> RunnerGeek: okay thnkas
[18:59] <sogeking99> can anyone help me with this problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1504642
[19:00] <RunnerGeek> need-help, this isn't really an ubuntu question, you should discuss how to upload html files with your host
[19:00] <resno> sogeking99: can you state the problem, i doubt anyones going to follow a link
[19:00] <acicula> ulkn, weak passwords are always a problem, you cant fix ssh to not allow users with a simple password
[19:00] <help111> RunnerGeek: n the grub wud automatiaclly detect my win7?
[19:00] <frxstrem> pleasuredom: it is a command line tool, though, but you could probably find a graphical interface for it somewhere...
[19:00] <RunnerGeek> acicula, sure you can
[19:00] <RunnerGeek> help111, yes
 <RunnerGeek> <Jordan_U><adaro><ubottu> <erUSUL> thanks a lot for all of u people for helping me.....
[19:00] <sogeking99> well i installed the newest ATI drivers and rebooted, this may or may not be related to my issues. but since then things have been going slow. for example if i click and drag a window around it is really slow and jumpy.
[19:00] <sogeking99> also i updated compiz for some reason i cant change my compiz settings with the manager, all the check boxes are faded. and whether im on compiz or metacity the windowas have annoying animations.
[19:00] <sogeking99> finally i cant watch youtube videos in full screen suddenly, when i press the button it just turns the player into a grey box.
[19:00] <FloodBot1> sogeking99: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:00] <need-help> RunnerGeek, how?
[19:00] <erUSUL> rakesh: no problem
[19:00] <help111> going on wth installing
[19:00] <help111> cya later guyz
[19:01] <RunnerGeek> need-help, how what?
[19:01] <acicula> RunnerGeek,  you can disable  access thats not the same
[19:01] <help111> thank you everyone who helped me out :)
[19:01] <Jordan_U> help111: You're welcome.
[19:01] <RunnerGeek> acicula, no you can setup password policies or you can set ssh for keys only
[19:01] <ev350> hello
[19:01] <pleasuredom> frxstrem thanks for the info
[19:01] <rakesh> bye all,,, ill be back if i need some help\
[19:01] <resno> hey ev350
[19:01] <kreppnar> anyone here having segmentation faults with the program called Gnomad2?
[19:01] <RunnerGeek> keys > passwords
[19:01] <bove> How can I set the xserver to permit connections from localhost?
[19:01] <solow> in windows, i can just use ipconfig to get the default gateway, how is this done in ubuntu?
[19:02] <need-help> RunnerGeek, uploading html page as index.php so that world wide can brows  ?
[19:02] <frxstrem> pleasuredom: also, if you're converting to MP3, you would want to have libmp3lame installed too
[19:02] <acicula> RunnerGeek, a password policy focusses on passwords not ssh ;). but yeah keys are a good measure. There are more ways to root then just ssh though, so it still pays to set proper passwords to begin with
[19:02] <sogeking99> can anyone help me with this?
[19:02] <RunnerGeek> need-help, you need to discuss that with your host
[19:02] <ev350> hay, im new to linux, im sorta getting there ^^ im just wonderin how do you compile a .py fle in the terminal?
[19:02] <RunnerGeek> acicula, well right, but with a password policy you can prevent weak passwords
[19:03] <xand__> hello everyone, there is this amsn port test tool which tells me whether these ports are ok for use with it. Is there another app i can do this sort of testing ? Already tried "nc -v -z -w2" on the ports and they do not show, even if they are ok
[19:03] <frxstrem> ev350: I believe that is more a question for #python
[19:03] <drizzt_> ev350, run python and do: import <your module>
[19:03] <acicula> RunnerGeek, well thats what it does now i suppose, except it just warns instead of strictly enforcing it
[19:03] <ev350> ok thank you :)
[19:03] <RunnerGeek> acicula, well you can make it strictly enforce it
[19:03] <RunnerGeek> my client's server does
[19:03] <pleasuredom> frxstrem: ok.  thx again
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[19:05] <profxavier> oy oy oY
[19:05] <solow> never mind my previous question, i have a new one. how do I connect to my pc *ubuntu* via putty?
[19:05] <derik> can skype be used with ubuntu?
[19:06] <kreppnar> could anyone help me with mounting a MTP device?
[19:06] <profxavier> solow, using ssh
[19:06] <solow> profxavier, I have ssh tagged, but it times out
[19:06] <profxavier> solow, when installing, I am assuming ?
[19:07] <kriss3d> Can anyone tell me what could be the problem with my ubuntu ? suddenly i cant see the login screen. I have to sorta guess what its doing to get into ubuntu normal mode. it only shows a bit colored squares in the top. like totally garbled graphics if that makes any sense
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> Solow: can you ping the ssh serving system?
[19:07] <solow> profxavier, I'm doing something odd here. I've installed virtualbox, with windows 7 on a machine. now I'm trying to use my host OS as server. so trying to log in with putty from windows :p
[19:07] <profxavier> solow, when installing packages, if things dont go the way they should, its pretty helpful to install via command line, to see the errors and work with them...
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> Kriss3d: what video card?
[19:07] <Guest16124> I am willing to make the complete switch to linux if and only if there is a equivlent to peer block
[19:08] <profxavier> solow, you are using putty on your windows 7 machine and ubuntu has sshd installed and running ?
[19:08] <RunnerGeek> solow, you need to install ssh-server on the server
[19:08] <profxavier> thx RunnerGeek
[19:08] <RunnerGeek> also you can look at things like vnc if you want gui remote access
[19:08] <solow> aaah
[19:08] <jamil_1> Hello, When i do wget www.google.com I get a 403 forbidden response.
[19:08] <solow> did not know that
[19:08] <resno> jamil_1: why would try to wget google.com?
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> Solow: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> Solow: its not installed by default
[19:08] <h0rnman> kreppnar: MTP is a tricky critter...i have had the most success by writing a script that uses gvfs to unmount the device and then remount it as MTP, but it took me a while to get it right
[19:08] <inveratulo> resno: I could think of a few reasons
[19:09] <jamil_1> resno: because I have few scripts that use wget
[19:09] <solow> ActionParsnip, this won't make my ubuntu unsafe now will it?
[19:09] <resno> jamil_1: well, thats not going to work. they are blocking it.
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> Guest16124: what does it do?
[19:09] <inveratulo> resno: i just wget google.com , and it came back with index.
[19:09] <rafaelsoaresbr> how to rename a folder in terminal?
[19:09] <jamil_1> resno: who is blocking it ? my isp ?
[19:09] <solow> ActionParsnip, woohoo! I'm in! thanks a lot :)
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> Solow: no, its fine and uses encryption
[19:10] <inveratulo> if you do a -r (don't do this!) it will pull down some other stuff
[19:10] <h0rnman> kreppnar: you will also need to install MTPFS (or whatever the MTP filesystem package is)
[19:10] <resno> jamil_1: this isnt a ubuntu issue, i suggest you ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:10] <RunnerGeek> solow, sort of, any time you open a service you open up for possible risk.  SSH is fairly safe and used on millions of server around the world
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> Solow: just keep root disabled (default in ubuntu) and you are fine
[19:10] <ColMustard> hello
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> Rafaelsoresbr: mv name newname
[19:11] <RunnerGeek> solow, I would recommend setting to a non default port, using iptables to restrict what clients can connect and setting the config to be secure, also using keys instead of passwords
[19:11] <frxstrem> solow: as long as you use a secure password and stuff (common sense), it should not be a big risk (although it's a little tiny risk)
[19:11] <jamil_1> resno: I think it is perhaps ubuntu related issue because It was working fine before upgrading to 10.04
[19:11] <ScoobyDoo> I'm going to install python 3.0, Do I need to uninstall the previous version or keep them both?
[19:11] <RunnerGeek> ScoobyDoo, you can do both
[19:11] <resno> jamil_1: so why didnt you say that?
[19:11] <profxavier> solow, research creating keys, some say its easy [i dont personally], and use keys [rather than passwords]
[19:11] <solow> I have a password like: h62rYbQM *it's not it, but the same layout*
[19:11] <Pici> ScoobyDoo: Do not remove the 2.x version of python.
[19:11] <RunnerGeek> i don't think py3k is released yet, still beta isn't it?
[19:11] <kreppnar> h0rnman: yeah i got all that installed, gnomad2 keeps crashing on me while it reads the device. Amarok works, but i can only send music to it..nothing like videos or photos
[19:11] <ScoobyDoo> Ah thanks Pici
[19:11] <jamil_1> resno: I am really sorry for that
[19:12] <RunnerGeek> oh python how I love you
[19:12] <Pici> RunnerGeek: We're already up to 3.1
[19:12] <RunnerGeek> oh wow, turns out python.com is p0rn
[19:12] <RunnerGeek> wtf over
[19:12] <RunnerGeek> ORG
[19:12] <profxavier> .net ?
[19:12] <RunnerGeek> ;)
[19:12] <profxavier> ah, org
[19:12] <h0rnman> kreppnar: like I said, the prebuilt solutions that I messed around with never did what I wanted them to...I had to write my own script to do the mounting
[19:12] <mike11> guys, how do I make my front panel audio work on  headphones. no sound comes out.  but it's ok on windows.
[19:12] <RunnerGeek> haha silly me
[19:12] <help111> Wher can i find a beginner's guide to ubuntu?
[19:12] <profxavier> help111 google ?
[19:12] <help111> haha
[19:13] <kreppnar> h0rnman: would you happen to still have that script?
[19:13] <ColMustard> anyone had any luck configuring thttpd on Ubuntu? I installed it with aptitude, configured it, tried /etc/init.d/thttpd start and I get nothing. It doesn't appear to be listening on port 80 either
[19:13] <help111> tried nthing great as sch ..
[19:13] <RunnerGeek> help111, ubuntuguide.org
[19:13] <h0rnman> kreppnar: not on the machine I am working on
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> Runnergeek: haha awesome
[19:13] <profxavier> help111: the ubuntu 'guide' is excellent
[19:13] <kreppnar> h0rnman: ah ok
[19:13] <help111> RunnerGeek: thanks
[19:13] <help111> profxavier: chcking it out :)
[19:13] <h0rnman> kreppnar: but it didn't take a whole lot of work to get going (i think its around 15 lines long) using gvfs-***** commands to get the mount type correct
[19:14] <kreppnar> h0rnman: so it pretty much mounted it as a mass storage device, and you were able to just drag and drop files into folders?
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> Help111: I recommend just using the OS. When you get stuck then search for guides
[19:15] <help111> ActionParsnip: okay :)
[19:15] <help111> installation complete
[19:15] <help111> restarting now..
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> Help111: get updates asap too :)
[19:15] <theadmin> Any ways to make GRUB boot an ISO?
[19:16] <insider> is 10.04 better than 9.10, worth to upgrade?
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: grub2 can. Grub cannot afaik
[19:16] <jamil_1> resno: can you propose any solution  ?
[19:16] <resno> insider: sure
[19:16] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: grub2 I have.
[19:16] <h0rnman> kreppnar: not by default.  The problem is that Ubuntu /does/ mount it as Mass Storage.  Unfortunately, MTP requires a specific method of access for the device to recognize what you are sending to it (for this example, I have a Creative ZEN), and if you just copy files over in Mass Storage mode, the player won't recognize the file.  You need to unmount the device as a Mass Storage device, and remount is as a proper MTP device
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> Insider: if 9.10 is working for you then i'd keep it. Its supported until april next year so there's life in it yet
[19:17] <iceroot> insider: never touch a running system
[19:17] <kreppnar> h0rnman: i see, yeah im using the Creative Zen w Vision
[19:17] <resno> jamil_1: can you run wget in other cases?
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: then yes you can ;)
[19:17] <Guest16124> I hate linux it dosent have an alterntive to peerblock
[19:17] <RunnerGeek> insider, i think so, also it is a LTS :)
[19:17] <insider> resno: my laptop configuration is 2Gb Ram, core2duo 2ghz, i suggest 10.04 would be slow
[19:17] <h0rnman> kreppnar: yeah, so I am guessing that you had the same problem I did
[19:17] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Wonder how then... hints?
[19:17] <jamil_1> resno: for instance ?
[19:17] <kreppnar> h0rnman: yeah pretty much
[19:17] <resno> jamil_1: try yahoo.com
[19:17] <RunnerGeek> insider, that is about my laptop and it is fast
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> Guest16124: you never told me what it is so I have no way to give alternatives. Hating an OS purely for one app is a bit pathetic to be fair
[19:18] <insider> and i hate SIS Mirage
[19:18] <resno> insider: im running 10.04 on a p4. 512 mb. it runs ok
[19:18] <fillayy> I installed 10.04 on my laptop and everything is working except for the mouse clickers, I can move the mouse but can't click anything.
[19:18] <StaRetji> bazhang: dude, help :) I tried installing bootchart via apt-get (live usb system with persistent storage) and it hanged the pc. I rebooted and now I'm stuck in a loop, can't use apt-get anymore, just dpkg --configure -a
[19:18] <theadmin> resno: Hah, nearly same here, and runs sweeeet
[19:18] <insider>  fillayy: it's maybe funny)
[19:18] <mike11> anyone has had success (or troubles) on making front audio jack work for desktop?
[19:18] <jamil_1> resno: Same error with yahoo. Also I forgot to tell you that I am behind a proxy and I have set the http_proxy environment variable
[19:18] <xomp> Hello, getting "You have new mail" when logging into ubuntu via SSH. Typing "mail" doesn't seem to work for me "-bash: mail: command not found
[19:18] <xomp> " how can I read the mail message waiting for me?
[19:19] <solow> I'm trying to view my local server. this works with 127.0.0.1 and my ip address. But I'd like to know id there is any other way, such as my default gateway. *as i want to access it in my lan network*
[19:19] <h0rnman> kreppnar: I don't have the script, but my hack was to grab a list of devices via 'lsusb' then grep for the line that contains 'MTP', then use AWK to separate device ID and BUS ID , then finally use gvfs-mount -u (i think) to unmount the device, and 'gvfs-mount MTP' (or something similar) to remount it as a MTP device
[19:19] <resno> jamil_1: your configuration is more complication then i know how to handle.
[19:19] <iceroot> xomp: mail
[19:19] <StaRetji> bazhang: if I do, dpkg --configure -a it will again trey to generete intrd.img and will hang again. Thx for any help
[19:19] <xomp> iceroot, Typing "mail" doesn't seem to work for me "-bash: mail: command not found" as I originally said.
[19:20]  * h0rnman cringes at the sloppiness of that
[19:20] <theadmin> Is there any real danger on removing gnome-terminal for GNOME, like will it break anythin?
[19:20] <iceroot> xomp: then install the mailclient for the terminal
[19:20] <kreppnar> h0rnman: why doesn't lsusb show where the hardware is connected though? isn't there a way to show that? i mean it shows that its there and connected..sure..but where?
[19:20] <RunnerGeek> theadmin, why would you want to do that, but no it shouldn't hurt anything
[19:20] <xomp> iceroot, apt-get install mailclient <-?
[19:20] <theadmin> kreppnar: See the output of mount
[19:20] <iceroot> xomp: apt-get install mail
[19:20] <RunnerGeek> people use mail?
[19:20] <theadmin> RunnerGeek: Cause I'm having certain issues with gnome-terminal so I preffer roxterm to it
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: http://ansi.interblc.com/2010/02/06/howto-boot-iso-images-via-grub2-with-ubuntu/
[19:21] <xomp> iceroot, "E: Couldn't find package mail
[19:21] <xomp> "
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> !info mail
[19:21] <iceroot> xomp: then it was mailx
[19:21] <h0rnman> kreppnar: lsusb should show a busid and a deviceid (in square brackets), but I might be thinking of a different command that I used
[19:21] <solow> actually i'm sure the default gateway works, I'm just wondering how I can find it within ubuntu
[19:21] <iceroot> !info mailx
[19:21] <StaRetji> Dudes, help out here, please, I'm having a problem with apt-get install or remove loop
[19:21] <RunnerGeek> mutt is much better than mail
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> Solow: run: route
[19:21] <iceroot> xomp: hm, ok,  then it is not in lucid...
[19:21] <Guest16124> ActionParsnip, in my own oponion peerblock is one of the best ways of staying safe online. see it for youre self at http://www.peerblock.com/
[19:21] <theadmin> ubottu: info bsd-mailx
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> Runnergeek: in your opinion ;)
[19:21] <iceroot> RunnerGeek: we dont need "is better then"
[19:21] <resno> StaRetji: a bit more detail would go a long way in getting help
[19:21] <theadmin> gah
[19:21] <xomp> iceroot, got it with bsd-mailx thanks :)
[19:22] <theadmin> ubottu: Is not listening to me :/
[19:22] <iceroot> xomp: ah ok
[19:22] <RunnerGeek> ActionParsnip, have you ever used mail before?
[19:22] <RunnerGeek> very basic
[19:22] <solow> ActionParsnip, the default appears to contain, alphabetical symbols...
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> Runnergeek: if basic is required then its ideal
[19:22] <RunnerGeek> bah
[19:22] <StaRetji> resno: thx dude, I was advised to install bootchart to see what's holding boot process. I tried installing bootchart via apt-get (live usb system with persistent storage) and it hanged the pc. I rebooted and now I'm stuck in a loop, can't use apt-get anymore, just dpkg --configure -a
[19:22] <iceroot> RunnerGeek: and comes with every normal system (dont know why it is missing in lucid)
[19:22] <Pici> !info bsd-mailx | theadmin
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> Runnergeek: there is no better or best
[19:22] <Nuboon2Age> Guest16124: would ipblock work for you? http://iplist.sourceforge.net/
[19:22] <RunnerGeek> xomp, if you can't get mail try mutt or pine
[19:23] <iceroot> RunnerGeek: so have fun writing scrips for other system for sending mails with mutt in your script
[19:23] <Nuboon2Age> Guest16124: should have said iplist
[19:23] <StaRetji> resno: if I use dpkg --configure -a it will hang again while trying to "update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-21-generic"
[19:23] <Guest88080> can i ask questions ?
[19:23] <iceroot> !ask | Guest88080
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> Runnergeek: if you grab a hosts file from a windows machine after immunising with spybot search and destroy it can hep a lot. You can stay safe online by avoiding "dodgy" sites
[19:24] <fengchu> 不会用阿
[19:24] <iceroot> !cn | fengchu
[19:24] <xomp> iceroot, I have this message "/root/db_backup/stats_dump_cron.sh: 14: cannot create /db_backup/stats_20100608.sql.gz: Directory nonexistent
[19:24] <xomp> mysqldump: Got errno 32 on write
[19:24] <xomp> " any idea how to resolve?
[19:24] <RunnerGeek> ActionParsnip, ?
[19:24] <theadmin> Pici: Thanks. Sorry to be rude but could you please make Ubottu accept the info and find factoids without the "!" and with "ubottu: command" somehow? I can't start the message with a ! for specific reasons
[19:24] <resno> StaRetji: im dont know how to help you. i am just saying youll get more help that way.
[19:24] <Guest16124> Nuboon2Age, wow thanks man
[19:24] <StaRetji> resno: ah, ok dude
[19:24] <Pici> theadmin: I will, but if you're looking for information for yourself, you should be doing it in a private message with ubottu, not in channel.
[19:24] <iceroot> xomp: look at the script what it is trying to do and why it needs a file and how it is created
[19:25] <StaRetji> I was advised to install bootchart to see what's holding boot process. I tried installing bootchart via apt-get (live usb system with persistent storage) and it hanged the pc. I rebooted and now I'm stuck in a loop, can't use apt-get anymore, just dpkg --configure -a
[19:25] <StaRetji> if I use dpkg --configure -a it will hang again while trying to "update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-21-generic"
[19:25] <Guest88080> why is that the twinkle have low volume
[19:25] <pleasuredom> frxstrem: i'am trying soundconverter
[19:25] <theadmin> Pici: I'm not, I wanted to display it to help someone here
[19:25] <theadmin> Pici: He was looking for mailx
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> Runnergeek: the quality of an app needs to be compared against requirements as well as taste. Many people think firefox is the best browser wheras I think it is garbage. Just like there is no best browser or best OS, there is no best mail program
[19:25] <Guest88080> how can i adjust the volume of twinkle
[19:26] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Firefox might be a meh yeah but garbage? Come on... It's not that bad really :/
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> Runnergeek: so you saying mutt is better than mail is moot as the user may actively use mail already and find it absolutely fine
[19:26] <kriss3d> ActionParsnip,  sorry i had to help my daughter.. its an ATI 2600 card
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: I really hate it
[19:26] <xand__> hello everyone, there is this amsn port test tool which tells me whether these ports are ok for use with it. Is there another app i can do this sort of testing ? Already tried "nc -v -z -w2" on the ports and they do not show, even if they are ok
[19:26] <clarnist> hello guys
[19:27] <RunnerGeek> well as a client  it is better, but mail is more designed to be able to pipe files into it
[19:27] <Guest94362> is ubuntu 64bit stable
[19:27] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: if you dont like firefox, try iceweasel :)
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> !ati | kriss3d
[19:27] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Well, my favorite browser. Taste differs.
[19:27] <clarnist>  i update kde to 4.5 beta and it's actualise me a qtcreator to version 2
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> Iceroot: I use arora and chromium daily
[19:27] <theadmin> Guest94362: It is stable but it has problems with certain stuff like flash
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: indeed :)
[19:27] <Nuboon2Age> Guest16124: Sure, no prob.  I found it by going to http://alternativeto.net/desktop/peerblock-/
[19:27] <Guest94362> which flash is to use
[19:27] <RunnerGeek> you can say something is better if it is designed to do something where the other isn't really designed for it
[19:27] <frxstrem> is it possible to add an option to the GRUB menu that would allow me to boot up Ubuntu without starting the graphical interface (only command line)?
[19:27] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Compare with IE and you'll know what I mean by 'not that bad'
[19:27] <kriss3d> ActionParsnip, ty ill try that.. its quite odd.. im in ubuntu now.. works fine. but when i boot the login screen is all garbled and small.. but once im inside it works like a charm.. it was all the suddenly
[19:28] <Guest88080> theadmin :how can i adjust the volume of my twinkle
[19:28] <RunnerGeek> frxstrem, disable gdm
[19:28] <clarnist> when I start it they send http://pastebin.com/hiLgNaHA
[19:28] <iceroot> RunnerGeek: ok and now lets stop this "is better then" or lets take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:28] <theadmin> Guest88080: No idea what twinkle even is
[19:28] <Nuboon2Age> Guest16124: http://alternativeto.net/ is pretty useful that way
[19:28] <frxstrem> RunnerGeek: well, won't that permanently make me unable to autostart Gnome? (I just want an option to use command line only)
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: I haven't used windows as my desktop in a while. We use IE at work but we use windows desktops but I don't do much browsing to notice
[19:28] <cyborgsmurf> Editor in Lbreakout2 dosen't show the bonus contents. Why isn't it shown?
[19:29] <RunnerGeek> frxstrem, i am not sure if you could do that with grub
[19:29] <RunnerGeek> you could set it to go into single user mode
[19:29] <capletonX> Hey, is there a queue or do I just post when topics are finished?
[19:29] <RunnerGeek> that might be good for what you want
[19:29] <cyborgsmurf> I use Ubuntu btw
[19:29] <RunnerGeek> capletonX, just ask when you are ready
[19:29] <shazzr> Is there a way to connect to a Novel network from and Ubuntu machine?
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> Guest94362: what is the output of: uname -a
[19:29] <Guest88080> theadmin its a app just like magic jack
[19:29] <Pici> capletonX: Just jump in and ask.
[19:29] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Yuck, Windows in corporate environments :/
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: I don't make the rules
[19:30] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Yeah well. That's something to hate this world for, you have to follow em. And as for that, we'll have to follow the rules and stop the offtopic talk
[19:30] <RunnerGeek> shazzr, I would think you can seeing as novel owns suse
[19:30] <capletonX> Okay, well conkyforecast is no longer getting information from weather.com and it isn't reading the .cache anymore.  How can I fix it?
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: all our ESX servers use redhat though ;)
[19:31] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: What on earth is ESX? Gosh, I read that as sex at first :/
[19:31] <Pici> !ot
[19:31] <iceroot> theadmin: vmware operation system
[19:31] <capletonX> Is there a way I can check to see if I am still registered with weather.com's xoap service?
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: runs vmware server, let's quit offtopic now a-la pici ;)
[19:31] <sogeking99> can anyone tell me how to make ubuntu the way it was when i first got ubuntu?
[19:32] <theadmin> sogeking99: ...reinstall it?
[19:32] <Balgan> guys i know this is probably not the right channel to ask BUT say i need to build new server for ESX am gonna have to simulate some networks so like a IDS,Honeypot,Firewall,webserver,ftpserver all on different virtual machines
[19:32] <Guest94362> ActionParsnip Linux marc-laptop-ubuntu 2.6.32-22-generic #36-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 3 22:02:19 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[19:32] <Balgan> what sort of specs am i looking at ?
[19:32] <sogeking99> i have a '/' and a '/home' partition
[19:32] <cyborgsmurf> (I use Ubuntu9.10) Editor in Lbreakout2 dosen't show the bonus contents. Why isn't it shown?
[19:32] <shazzr> RunnerGeek: Thanks. What would be a more suitable channel to follow up on that sort of a challenge?
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> Sogeking: remove all the .g×* folders in home. They are hidden. Do it in root recovery console. I'd move them to a folder for holding
[19:32] <derrick_> Hello, I actrually got my vid created, but for some reason it created 20 audio streams! how do I get rid of these
[19:32] <RunnerGeek> Balgan, you don't want to/can't really have an IDS, honeypot, on the same machine as your real server
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> Guest94362: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree ,flash is yours
[19:33] <RunnerGeek> the IDS needs to be in between the server and router
[19:33] <RunnerGeek> a honeypot should be on a different network entirely
[19:33] <Balgan> yeah RunnerGeek they will be running on separate networks etc even though it will all be runnign on ESX
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> Guest94362: make sure you remove gnash and swfdec if you have it
[19:33] <RunnerGeek> oh ok
[19:33] <ScoobyDoo> I've installed python3-tk but I still can't use from tkinter import ttk
[19:33] <Balgan> so what i need to know is what sort of specs to i need for a 5/6 VM up 24/7
[19:33] <sogeking99> is there like a recovery feature?
[19:33] <pcfreak30> How do I get rid of extra audio channels
[19:33] <Balgan> on ESX
[19:34] <theadmin> ScoobyDoo: Ubuntu uses Python2. If you need to write a python3 script, make sure to run it with python3
[19:34] <cyborgsmurf> how can I click play in YouTube? (Ubuntu9.10)
[19:34] <Slart> ScoobyDoo: I'm just writing a small python 3 script with ttk and tkinter.. works here
[19:35] <Nuboon2Age> theadmin: Yesterday I learned the basics of how to use ubottu.  As the other person said you go into private session with it and then to find out about its capabilities  ! ubottu | theadmin or whatever subject you're interested in.
[19:35] <ScoobyDoo> theadmin thats what I get when i use python 3.0.1+
[19:35] <NCS_One> hi
[19:35] <ScoobyDoo> I can import tkinter but not ttk
[19:35] <theadmin> Nuboon2Age: I _can't_ start a message with a !, it thinks that's a terminal command to execute and send the output
[19:35] <Slart> ScoobyDoo: tried import tkinter.ttk as ttk ?
[19:36] <NCS_One> is it possible to hide the window title bar ?
[19:36] <Nuboon2Age> theadmin: Oh, now I get it. hmmm...
[19:36] <wildman> hello #ubuntu
[19:36] <Pici> theadmin: What IRC client are you using?
[19:36] <theadmin> NCS_One: Kill the window manager? :/
[19:36] <theadmin> Pici: Pidgin
[19:36] <ScoobyDoo> Slart No module named ttk
[19:36] <Balgan> so RunnerGeek any ideas on those specs ? :)
[19:36] <Slart> ScoobyDoo: hang on.. let me check how I'm doing it
[19:36] <crdlb> ScoobyDoo: are you running somebody else's code or preparing to write your own?
[19:36] <NCS_One> theadmin: hehe
[19:36] <RunnerGeek> theadmin, pidgin runs commands if you type !<command>, a feature I was unaware of
[19:36] <cyborgsmurf> (I use Ubuntu9.10) Editor in Lbreakout2 dosen't show the bonus contents. Why isn't it shown?
[19:37] <ScoobyDoo> crdlb Trying to write my own
[19:37] <Gornjak> Is there a way to restore deleted folders in your /home/~/ directory? I've deleted Video, Audio, etc. a long time ago and just discovered I can point them to folders on my external hd.
[19:37] <ScoobyDoo> I haven't restarted since the install?
[19:37] <Nuboon2Age> theadmin: I moved to Konversation.  I'm very pleased w/ it.
[19:37] <ScoobyDoo> I doubt thats it though
[19:37] <hellwolf06[web]> Hi all
[19:37] <wildman> I've seen some nice things on 10.04's desktop, like the (un)maximize maximized windows by dragging them near the top of the screen (à la Windows 7), can two open windows be put in a kind of Midnight/Norton Commander two-pane disposition with a similar trick? if so, which trick? thanks in advance
[19:37] <bolster> Anyone know how to control the amount of 'slug' messages in xchat, such as 'such and such quit the room' etc?
[19:37] <Slart> ScoobyDoo: I use.    import tkinter, tkinter.ttk as ttk   and I'm using python 3, not sure if eclipse does anything sneaky behind my back to make it work though
[19:37] <hellwolf06[web]> I am banned at ubuntu-ru so i wanna ask you
[19:38] <RunnerGeek> Balgan, I misread your question at first, you are just looking for hardware specs for an ESX server?
[19:38] <hellwolf06[web]> Just because i asked a question but not joked
[19:38] <ubutom> bolster, wight click the channel tab and select hide jin/part messages
[19:38] <ScoobyDoo> Slart No module named ttk
[19:38] <bolster> ubutom any way of setting that as the default?
[19:38] <hellwolf06[web]> Hey guys i have a question: How can i know the time in terminal
[19:38] <Pici> hellwolf06[web]: date
[19:38] <ScoobyDoo> Perhaps I shouldn't use ttk?
[19:38] <ubutom> bolster, will be saved if you quit xchat
[19:38] <hellwolf06[web]> echo $(time) doesn't work
[19:39] <bolster> hellowolf date
[19:39] <ubutom> bolster, but can also e set in options me thinks
[19:39] <ScoobyDoo> what's the next best one?
[19:39] <bolster> ubutom thanks!
[19:39] <Pici> ScoobyDoo: Next best what?
[19:39] <hellwolf06[web]> Pici date works echo $(date)
[19:39] <ScoobyDoo> Python GUI making language
[19:39] <crdlb> ScoobyDoo: I strongly suggest you use python 2.x for now, and port your script to python 3.x in the future with 2to3.py
[19:39] <Pici> hellwolf06[web]: Er, yes, but thats the same thing as just doing   date
[19:39] <crdlb> ScoobyDoo: pygtk for example has not been ported yet
[19:40] <Pici> ScoobyDoo: This is probably a better topic for #python
[19:40] <ScoobyDoo> Pici nobody seems to know anything in there
[19:40] <the_file> how big are the performance differences between ubuntu netbook and desktop?.
[19:40] <ScoobyDoo> I'll try in 2. whatever
[19:40] <hellwolf06[web]> Pici, i have already wrote syntax error token unexpected
[19:40] <Slart> ScoobyDoo: hmm.. I wonder if I had to install anything special to make it work.. odd
[19:40] <the_file> Im thinking of using ubuntu desktop for a netbook
[19:40] <RunnerGeek> ScoobyDoo, I haven't messed with python in over a year sorry :)
[19:40] <the_file> and does ubuntu netbootk version allow for compiz effects plugin?.
[19:41] <Pici> ScoobyDoo: Thats because no one runs 3.0
[19:41] <RunnerGeek> netbooks have 3d cards?
[19:41] <Nuboon2Age> ! ubottu | theadmin
[19:41] <rfzero> the_file, yes
[19:41] <Slart> ScoobyDoo: you have python3-tk installed?
[19:41] <rfzero> just install compizconfig
[19:41] <ScoobyDoo> Slart Yup
[19:41] <qwerty987> how to measure windows width and height? is there any application from x server?
[19:41] <rfzero> RunnerGeek, yep they do, intel ones
[19:41] <ScoobyDoo> 2.6.2  says samething
[19:42] <wildman> qwerty987: appart from taking a snapshot and measuring in gimp... I dunno
[19:42] <ubutom> the_file, am using lubuntu right now on an old laptop, have enabled the netbook look and I dig it
[19:42] <soreau> the_file: If it's not intel, probably yes (for compiz)
[19:42] <wildman> snapshot -> screenshot, but you got it I guess
[19:42] <Pici> qwerty987: I *think* that xwininfo provides that information
[19:42]  * ScoobyDoo Off to find a new language to make the GUI in
[19:42] <crdlb> ScoobyDoo: what's wrong with python 2?
[19:42] <soreau> the_file: intel gpus have been blacklisted for compiz due to driver issues
[19:42] <ubutom> the_file, don't know much about netbook remix though
[19:42] <soreau> most of them anyway
[19:42] <the_file> soreau: I preffer amd =)
[19:42] <wildman> I've seen some nice things on 10.04's desktop, like the (un)maximize maximized windows by dragging them near the top of the screen (à la Windows 7), can two open windows be 'snapped' in a kind of Midnight/Norton Commander two-pane disposition with a similar trick? if so, which trick? thanks in advance
[19:43] <the_file> soreau: amd is a great powerhouse for 3d shit
[19:43] <soreau> the_file: Excellent. But does this netbook have an ati card?
[19:43] <Pici> the_file: Please mind your language here.
[19:43] <ScoobyDoo> crdlb same thing, there no modual called ttk
[19:43] <the_file> soreau: oww I am still shopping for a netbook
[19:43] <soreau> the_file: you'll want to watch your language here
[19:43] <soreau> the_file: But amd/ati is a great choice IMHO
[19:43] <StaRetji> I was advised on this channel to install bootchart to see what's holding boot process.
[19:43] <StaRetji> I tried installing bootchart via apt-get (live usb system with persistent storage) and it hanged the pc.
[19:43] <StaRetji> I rebooted and now I'm stuck in a loop, can't use apt-get anymore, just dpkg --configure -a
[19:43] <StaRetji> if I use dpkg --configure -a it will hang again while trying to "update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-21-generic" I can see that new initrd.img is generated, but pc hangs.
[19:43] <FloodBot1> StaRetji: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:43] <the_file> soreau: yep amd/ait is my favorite pair
[19:44] <hellwolf06[web]> hey guys what the problem with this echo $(time)
[19:44] <crdlb> ScoobyDoo: tk is a very poor toolkit anyway
[19:44] <mugwort13> has anyone tried using desktop hardware to run a linux server?  I'm curious about success/fail stories with different setups.
[19:44] <rfzero> the_file, the best netbook you'll find is probably a intel atom-based one, ubuntu totally supports the hardware
[19:44] <lun4tic> is there any way to get these: http://www.fifa.com/newscentre/widgets/index.html on my desktop? in form of screenlets of something like that
[19:45] <wildman> mugwort13: I have a Samba server running on a desktop-class machine w/o pbs
[19:45] <Pici> mugwort13: I've had no issues running Ubuntu Server on any desktop hardware.
[19:45] <wildman> mugwort13: 20-30 users, so no big load though
[19:45] <Wolfmanz51> so i keep getin this error from my package manger
[19:45] <ubutom> the_file, there are some amd notebooks that are cheaper than netbooks and yet more powerfull, as the compaq 615 for example, 2,2 ghz amd processor, 1024mb ram(upgrade advised), ATI Mobility 3200 and 160gb hdd
[19:45] <Pici> hellwolf06[web]: bash scripting questions are better directed towards #bash
[19:46] <hellwolf06[web]> Pici, thx
[19:46] <the_file> soreau: amd is great for 3d and will probably work great for compiz plugin
[19:46] <soreau> the_file: Yes, it will. The open driver is great and also you have option of fglrx for HD ati cards
[19:47] <mugwort13> wildman: Pici:  thanks
[19:47] <Xeli>  Could anyone think of a reason why my program does not run under root, the owner is root and the set uid bit is set with chmod 4770, it does run, just not under root...
[19:47] <hellwolf06[web]> Wolfmanz51, like wolfs?
[19:47] <soreau> the_file: AFAIK, compiz works on UNR but you might want to make sure
[19:47] <soreau> ! unr | the_file
[19:48] <wildman> mugwort13: yw
[19:48] <blackxored> hi i'm running lucid, i installed skype from the partner repo and setup an account, I can't even call the test call
[19:48] <blackxored> can't find any users
[19:48] <blackxored> can't chat with any
[19:48] <the_file> soreau: does compiz plugin with the 3d box and all come default in ubuntu or do u got to install it thru the software center?.
[19:48] <the_file> I never used it
[19:48] <the_file> =(
[19:48] <trism> hellwolf06[web]: time is a command to time the execution of other programs, if you want to echo the time, use date
[19:48] <blackxored> it's my machine, my network, what is it?
[19:48] <the_file> thought I have seen so many inredible videos of it!
[19:49] <soreau> the_file: cube is part of core, but ubuntu stopped installing compiz-plugins-extra by default (mostly unrelated to cube)
[19:49] <solow> how do i force quit something. my updater crashed and won't go away. freakin annoying
[19:49] <hellwolf06[web]> trism THX
[19:49] <Slart> solow: xkill, pkill, kill
[19:49] <soreau> the_file: So yes, cube comes installed by default but you'll want ccsm to config it
[19:49] <Wolfmanz51> dpkg: unrecoverable fattle eror, aborting: syntax error: unknown group 'cdemu' in stateoverride file E: Sub-process /user/bin/dpkg returned error code 2 a package failed to install. Trying to recover
[19:49] <the_file> soreau: wow I didn't know that
[19:49] <blackxored> I can't find any users on skype, running lucid, can someone help me on this//???
[19:49] <solow> Slart, how?
[19:50] <the_file> soreau: very impressive
[19:50] <solow> Slart, better even, where? it's running in UI not terminal.
[19:50] <Slart> solow: xkill lets you click on a window you want to kill, pkill someprocess  will kill all processes named "someprocess", kil <pid> will kill the process with the process id <pid>
[19:50] <the_file> linux is just such a productive os, hassle free, very good looking, and free
[19:50] <the_file> its just great and customizable
[19:51] <solow> slart, omg it killed my taskbar
[19:51] <Wolfmanz51> so my dpkg is failing can some one Help this is my error dpkg: unrecoverable fattle eror, aborting: syntax error: unknown group 'cdemu' in stateoverride file E: Sub-process /user/bin/dpkg returned error code 2 a package failed to install. trying to recover
[19:51] <bolster> blackxored repo version of skype?
[19:51] <mike11> /proc/asound/card0/codec#2:Codec: Realtek ALC888 <-- is this the codec name? most of what I googled doesn't seem to have a space
[19:51] <solow> slart, now my taskbar is gone and it was asking me to delete stuff
[19:51] <rocket16> solow: You can reset gnome-panels, to fix that up,
[19:52] <solow> how?
[19:52] <rocket16> !resetpanel | solow
[19:52] <Slart> solow: why not try rebooting..see if it comes back
[19:52] <StaRetji> I really need advanced help here folks http://paste.ubuntu.com/446789/ THX!!!
[19:52] <bolster> blackxored stock lucid build, no weirdness, and a custom network indicates you have (the correct) deny all firewall setup.
[19:52] <solow> grrr
[19:52] <solow> brb
[19:52] <CarlFK> lucid broke my jaunty wifi - I have Bus 003 Device 002: ID 03f0:171d Hewlett-Packard Wireless (Bluetooth + WLAN) Interface [Integrated Module]
[19:53] <blackxored> bolster, there are incoming connection used for something in skype
[19:53] <nullp0inter> for some reason source ~/.bash_profile doesnt carry over to new tabs that i open up, and i have to re run that command each time. how can i fix this?
[19:53] <blackxored> I've mapped the port I select
[19:53] <pehden> damn
[19:53] <blackxored> bolster, still I can connect but I cannot find users
[19:54] <blackxored> nullp0inter, .bashrc is sourced and /etc/profile not .bash_profile i believe by default
[19:54] <the_file> are there keyloggers for ubuntu?.
[19:54] <nullp0inter> blackxored: is it safe to put my definitions in .bashrc?
[19:54] <the_file> or is the kernel too secured for that
[19:55] <blackxored> nullp0inter, yes it's safe, but you can also source it to another file under your home to categorize settings
[19:55] <blackxored> something like if [ -f ~/.bash_<something>; then . ~/.bash_<something>; fi
[19:55] <Slart> the_file: there are keyloggers, so no
[19:55] <nullp0inter> blackxored: that makes sense, so i can just use that inside .bashrc...thanks!
[19:55] <blackxored> nullp0inter, as a golden rule you're safe to touch things under $HOME, but stay away of /etc ;)
[19:55] <the_file> slart: but will they be able to log keys in ubuntu?.
[19:55] <blackxored> nullp0inter, np
[19:56] <blackxored> bolster, my skype problem?
[19:56] <the_file> k
[19:56] <the_file> get it
[19:56] <Balgan> RunnerGeek, yep mate all i need is some hardware specs!
[19:56] <bolster> blackxored on thinking about it skype should fetch your userlist ofver an http link actually, what version are you on?
[19:56] <lun4tic> is there a screenlet for gnome where i can just embed html code?
[19:56] <nullp0inter> blackxored: i got bash: [: missing `]' after adding that
[19:57] <lun4tic> like web widgets and stuff
[19:57] <blackxored> Skype (beta) version 2.1.0.81
[19:57] <blackxored> nullp0inter, it was an example
[19:57] <krabador> hi people, emesene users can look when an invisible user log out or log in as invisible
[19:57] <bolster> blackxored nullp0inter ] before the first semi colon, <something> ];
[19:58] <qwerty987> thanks Pici
[19:58] <nullp0inter> yep got it now
[19:58] <nullp0inter> thanks bolster
[19:58] <Tetraz> has anyone tried to buy music through rythmbox?
[19:58] <bolster> blackxored I'm on the same skype version, so it must be something with your login details :S
[19:58] <StaRetji> I really need advanced help here folks http://paste.ubuntu.com/446789/ Thx ;)
[19:59] <darkkilla> hi everyone
[19:59] <blackxored> nullp0inter, Ex: http://pastebin.com/5LUfV6wa
[19:59] <blackxored> bolster, like?
[19:59] <blackxored> bolster, try to find me on this same nick, plz
[19:59] <Wolfmanz51> dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting: syntax error: unknown group 'cdemu' in stateoverride file E: Sub-process /user/bin/dpkg returned error code 2 a package failed to install. trying to recover
[19:59] <aaandaiii> i got sound to work in skype
[19:59] <nullp0inter> blackxored: my new terminal windows are now completely blank
[19:59] <aaandaiii> pulseaudio
[19:59] <aaandaiii> but the cpu is 100 and everything freezes
[19:59] <nullp0inter> my username isnt even there anymore
[19:59] <aaandaiii> i mean just the sound gets stuttery then stops
[20:00] <aaandaiii> [ need help relatively quickly ]
[20:00] <blackxored> nullp0inter, append to .bashrc not replace it
[20:00] <nullp0inter> thats what i did
[20:00] <nullp0inter> should i have not done source ~/.bashrc?
[20:01] <blackxored> nullp0inter, no you source your file *from* .bashrc
[20:01] <blackxored> full example: http://pastebin.com/dxj8jyz6
[20:01] <blackxored> bolster, then???
[20:01] <bolster> blackxored added,
[20:01] <blackxored> bolster, i even see stats 22,211,840 people online
[20:01] <blackxored> now it disconnected
[20:02] <Igorov> hi
[20:02] <blackxored> connected back still don't see anything
[20:02] <pehden> found a posible bug
[20:02] <bolster> blackxored I take it you've already exited and started it up again?
[20:02] <Igorov> how I can upgrade my ubuntu to 10.04
[20:02] <Igorov> from 9.04
[20:02] <blackxored> i installed yesterday, so i assume yes
[20:02] <Igorov> directly?
[20:02] <blackxored> Igorov, update-manager -d
[20:02] <Igorov> but
[20:02] <Igorov> this is to 9.10
[20:02] <Xetrov`> on a default server 10.04 install, it seems universe repos is already enabled?
[20:02] <blackxored> bolster, i still don't see you
[20:02] <solow> I have my taskbar back :p
[20:02] <Jordan_U> StaRetji: A "peristent" install is an odd beast. It't only persistent for things that are read after the kernel and initrd have been loaded. So if you do something that requires the initrd to be updated, which persistence alone won't allow, you'll get problems since the old initrd will be used
[20:02] <Daekdroom> Igorov, you can't do it directly.
[20:03] <darkkilla> I've some annoying bug in /etc/bash_completion.d/cowsay ... everytime a bash gets started I get an annoying syntax error stating "unknown word `kn' in line 12"... the file has this on line 12: "case $prev kn" (without the quotes)... can someone show me the content of their file (I'm using 10.04 x86_64) or will it be sufficent if I only change it to "case $prev in kn"?
[20:03] <bolster> blackxored have you started it up before or is this the first execution? sometimes skype is a bit shitty about dealinging with no-info under $home
[20:03] <blackxored> bolster, what's wrong with this skype, do I have to pay to make test messages?
[20:03] <blackxored> bolster, yes I've
[20:03] <Jordan_U> StaRetji: I recommend just doing a regular install to the flash drive instead.
[20:03] <Igorov> Daekdroom: but if I have the 9.10 repository
[20:03] <blackxored> bolster, you said you added me but i dont' see you here, i'll re-login
[20:04] <bolster> blackxored you should still be clear for skype-to-skype calls and messages, so that should be a problem
[20:04] <Daekdroom> Igorov, then you're going to break your system
[20:04] <StaRetji> Jordan_U: thx mate, unfortunately, it is not an option
[20:04] <blackxored> bolster, clear?
[20:04] <Jordan_U> StaRetji: Why not?
[20:04] <StaRetji> Jordan_U: most probably, I'l have to reinstall
[20:04] <Igorov> Daekdroom: ok
[20:04] <bolster> blackxored free :)
[20:04] <Igorov> Daekdroom: thanks
[20:04] <StaRetji> Jordan_U: beacuse USB stick can't last longer that 2-3 month if it is not live with persistant
[20:04] <blackxored> bolster, oh I see, still won't see your contact, try a chat
[20:05] <chmac> Where can I put a .desktop file to have it appear in the main menu?
[20:05] <justin_> question : if i upgrade through the update installer to 10.04 LTS from 9.1 will it wipe my hard drive?
[20:05] <Jordan_U> StaRetji: To get your 'persistent' install working again just delete all of the system files from the casper-rw partition.
[20:05] <Xetrov`> anyone know why im getting "Couldnt find package build-essential" even though the universe repository seems to be enabled?
[20:06] <StaRetji> Jordan_U: you mean, if I delete all files from casper-rw it will boot like first time, no changes?
[20:06] <Slart> Xetrov`: new install? have you run apt-get update?
[20:06] <tonyyarusso> Xetrov`: build-essential is in main actually.
[20:06] <Jordan_U> StaRetji: Yes.
[20:06] <tahnok> does anyone know if linux has nvidia optimus support?
[20:06] <LedHed> I'm trying to remove the suspend and hibernation buttons in Lucid,  but the 'can_hibernate' and 'can_suspend' keys are missing from the gconf-editor.  Anyone know of another way to disable them?
[20:06] <Xetrov`> Slart: new install, i have run apt-get update
[20:06] <pehden> bug where every time i unplug the AC adatpter from my laptop the thing says battery low at %100 charge now
[20:06] <StaRetji> Jordan_U: Thank you very much man, really appreciated it :)
[20:07] <bolster> blackxored Check the Proxy setting in Advanced in the options, make sure its automatic proxy detection, and maybe change the port
[20:07] <tonyyarusso> Anyone know how to find which package provides a particular perl module?  'apt-cache search' sometimes succeeds, but not always.
[20:07] <Jordan_U> StaRetji: You're welcome.
[20:07] <bolster> blackxored to anything
[20:07] <Slart> Xetrov`: what does "apt-cache search essential" return?
[20:07] <Jordan_U> StaRetji: Just remember that you can't do any upgrades / changes that require a new kernel or initrd
[20:07] <Xetrov`> whoa, tons
[20:07] <tonyyarusso> (In particular Net::SMTP, Net::SMTP::TLS, and IO::Socket::INET)
[20:08] <Slart> Xetrov`: and you're not using capital letters anywhere..  sudo apt-get install Build-Essential  wont work, as far as I know
[20:08] <Xetrov`> ok i greped build, comes back with build-essential
[20:08] <Xetrov`> used all lower
[20:09] <StaRetji> Jordan_U: I understand, though I've changed intridr.img few times, when I was changing splash image, but that was done manually. Here I don't know how to clear apt to become available again
[20:09] <Slart> Xetrov`: can you pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get update; apt-cache search build-essential; sudo apt-get install build-essential" ?
[20:09] <Xetrov`> ok i think i got it
[20:09] <Jordan_U> tonyyarusso: apt-file search is probably usefull for that
[20:09] <Guest50030> hello folks, i can test posts for msn usage thru amsn, is there i way i can do this with another app (maybe command mode) ?
[20:09] <tonyyarusso> Jordan_U: What's the naming syntax I'm looking for?
[20:09] <Xetrov`> apt-get install drbd8-utils drbd8-module-source \
[20:10] <Xetrov`> had a space after the \ and before build-essential
[20:10] <Xetrov`> whats the \ do?
[20:10] <Slart> Xetrov`: lets you do a new line without it affecting the command
[20:11] <Xetrov`> ok so really it wasnt needed
[20:11] <Xetrov`> i could have just skipped it
[20:11] <Slart> Xetrov`: nope
[20:11] <Xetrov`> ok thanks
[20:11] <Slart> Xetrov`: yes
[20:12] <darkkilla> okay, changing it to "case $prev in kn" does not help... so could someone check for differences of their /etc/bash_completion.d/cowsay file with this? http://pastebin.com/fsnpPEaR
[20:12] <folkert> Hello, I'm trying to install flashplayer 10.1 on 64bit ubuntu. However, I have installed nspluginwrapper and copied the flashplayer to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins, but it still doesnt work.
[20:12] <Jordan_U> tonyyarusso: I don't know off hand, sorry.
[20:13] <mat619> hi there! I need some help with my Thinkpad T41 - since I installed 10.04 (or it upgraded to the latest kernel, I'm unsure which was the cause since I installed only a few days ago) I can't execute "modprobe -r ehci_hcd" anymore because the module doesn't exist. I have to do that in order to get USB storage devices to work because my Thinkpad's USB ports are somewhat broken and work only with USB 1.1. Any ideas what to do? It drives me nuts!
[20:14] <converge> im looking for dos2unix program, it's not in tofrodos anymore, and i cant find it on packages.ubuntu.com , some idea where can i find it ?
[20:15] <mxweas> I'm trying to download a file to my gui-less server. However, the file is stuck behind a login session. Can I login with lynx/links, export the cookie for the session and use it with wget/curl?
[20:16] <Jordan_U> converge: Just use "fromdos" instead
[20:16] <edbian> I'm on ubuntu 8.04 and I want to upgrade straight to 10.04.  Is that possible?
[20:16] <Jordan_U> edbian: Yes
[20:16] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | edbian
[20:16] <tonyyarusso> converge: I use the 'flip' package myself.
[20:17] <converge> tonyyarusso, flip ? there is a dos2unix there/
[20:17] <converge> ?
[20:17] <darkkilla> converge: on my machine it's still in the package "tofrodos"
[20:17] <tonyyarusso> converge: it does the same thing.
[20:17] <converge> im running a binary program, and it needs the dos2unix ..
[20:18] <jo-erlend> Where can I get the name and address of the person who thought it was smart to make altgr+space nbsp? :)
[20:18] <jo-erlend> no, seriously; how can I make altgr+space _not_ insert nbsp?
[20:18] <drizzt_> jo-erlend, what's wrong with it?
[20:18] <Guest50030> hello folks, i can test posts for msn usage thru amsn, is there i way i can do this with another app (maybe command mode) ?
[20:18] <drizzt_> jo-erlend, it's in keyboard properties somewhere
[20:19] <edbian> I can send sms messages through skype.  Is there software in the repos that does this too?
[20:19] <sandking> what's realtime kernel?
[20:19] <lighta> Hi, how can I do my script.sh start on lunch system (not session) and I didn't found any /etc/rc.d/ folder
[20:20] <jo-erlend> drizzt_, well... I write some programs in Python, and Python cares about the difference between a space and an nbsp.
[20:20] <skulski> I had installed a custom kernel image for my computer to get around a show stopper, but then when i updated ubuntu reset my grub configuration to normal. how do i 1) get my other kernel as an option 2) stop that from happening in the future
[20:20] <drizzt_> sandking, it is a kernel which imitate RTOS
[20:20] <nullp0inter> where can i find my .bashrc?
[20:20] <sandking> drizzt_: thx for reply
[20:21] <converge> workarounds..
[20:21] <yariv> edbian: The next version of skype for Linux will enable that feature.
[20:21] <rfzero> nullp0inter, isn't it in your home folder?
[20:21] <rrodrigo> humm
[20:21] <imthenachoman> whats that site i can go to search for apt-get packages?
[20:21] <rfzero> nullp0inter, it's a hidden file, so if you're using nautilus press ctrl+h to show hidden files
[20:21] <chmac> Anyone know where the Ubuntu / Gnome main menu is on disk?
[20:21] <rrodrigo> speaking portugues?
[20:21] <Pici> tonyyarusso: I think some of what you are looking for is installed in the perl-modules package in lucid, the rest is in cpan, you may be able to use those package listings along with apt-file to see if such a package is availabe in our repos.
[20:21] <edbian> yariv, What feature?  It being in the repos?  I doubt it.  Is there software in the repos that does this?
[20:22] <converge> rrodrigo, eu falo
[20:22] <drizzt_> which idiot included lubuntu-desktop in repository? it's awful
[20:22] <rrodrigo> ufa
[20:22] <nullp0inter> rfzero: thanks i think i forgot to hit ctrl h
[20:22] <imthenachoman> nm, found it
[20:22] <rfzero> rrodrigo, converge #ubuntu-br caras
[20:22] <rrodrigo> que?
[20:22] <converge> rfzero, aqui tem mais gente
[20:22] <Pici> drizzt_: Please refrain from such comments in our channels.  They are not constructive nor appreciated.  If you have a valid bug with a package, please log it on http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[20:23] <rrodrigo> ata
[20:23] <yariv> edbian: Not at the moment but wait for skype 3.0 for Linux. The SMS feature will be available.
[20:23] <pehden> any one got the battery issue
[20:23] <Windpoison> Hey! Finally got IRC working on my ubuntu 9.04 laptop
[20:23] <edbian> yariv, I don't think you're aware that you can already SMS with skype on linux.  Just grab the skype dynamic package from the site.  You don't eve have to compile it.
[20:23] <blackxored> bolster, still won't see you, no proxy selected, mapping rule, all outbound allowed, inbound for skype port also allowed
[20:24] <bsmith093> is there a way to tweak the dependencies of a package from the repos
[20:24] <wng-> Guys, i followed the instructions in the Ubuntu server guide in 10.04 to enable IP Masquerading, now I can't ssh into my machine? how can i enable this?
[20:24] <edbian> bsmith093, No
[20:24] <ubutom> drizzt_, I run it atm and it's fine :P
[20:24] <drizzt_> lol, so that bug will lie there as NEW for a couple years
[20:24] <bsmith093> that was fast are you sure
[20:25] <edbian> bsmith093, Absolutely positive.  Unless you re-write the software to not use the packages it needs it's impossible.
[20:25] <bsmith093> well can i force 2 packages to install that would normally remove each other
[20:25] <bolster> blackxored still cant see anyone either?
[20:25] <blackxored> bolster, no
[20:25] <drizzt_> anyway how to control antialiasing in LXDE? gnome-appearance-properties doesn't work for some reason
[20:25] <bsmith093> for example gnome-games and same gnome
[20:25] <darkkilla> just fixed my bash_completion bug... looks like someone made a typo... instead of "case $prev in" the person responsible typed "case $prev kn" ;)
[20:25] <blackxored> I saw somrthing now
[20:25] <darkkilla> bye
[20:26] <blackxored> on search but still nothing on contact list
[20:26] <blackxored> after a few seconds the results vanishes
[20:26] <Windpoison> I have a problem with Opera. Everytime i run it it doesnt work. when i run it in terminal it says "nathan@nathan-laptop:~$ opera      /home/nathan//lib/opera/10.10/opera: 1: Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string
[20:26] <edbian> bsmith093, Well what package do you want to tweak (and what dependencies) ?
[20:26] <bolster> blackxored end of my expertise bro; you've checked your network, and you've got the right version, and its logging in correctly, so I have no idea dude.
[20:27] <blackxored> bolster, that only happens if I search from the main window typing the name
[20:27] <drizzt_> Windpoison, is it bash you're using?
[20:27] <bsmith093> the same-gnome package was removed from the repos, i found it in the januty repos, but it wont insytall without removing gnome-games on lucid is there  a way around this
[20:27] <KaiForce> i want to create a script that will mount an external drive, then share it with SMB.  Possible?  I know how to mount the drive, I just need to know if I can create an SMB share from the command line
[20:28] <Windpoison> drizzt, I am pretty sure, anyway to make sure, I am a linux newbie.
[20:28] <edbian> bsmith093, Are you mixing repos and versions?  What version are you running?
[20:28] <bsmith093> lucid
[20:28] <pehden> Windpoison does your critical battery alert come one when you disconnect from the ac charger on your laptop
[20:28] <edbian> bsmith093, with what repos?
[20:28] <bsmith093> the lucid repos
[20:29] <edbian> bsmith093, don't do that.  ah ha
[20:29] <edbian> bsmith093, Basically you run into the problem you're facing now.
[20:29] <Windpoison> pehden, I do not have a battery for my laptop
[20:29] <edbian> bsmith093, oh wait.  Read that wrong.
[20:29] <edbian> bsmith093, Sorry if I confused you there.  Thought you were running lucid with jaunty repos or something (which is just insane)
[20:30] <lucenut> I am on a Windows 7 Ultimate x64 PC with Ubuntu running in Virtualbox. How can I connect to the windows file system from ubuntu?
[20:30] <bsmith093> anyway is there a way to make swell foop speed WAY up
[20:30] <edbian> bsmith093, What's wrong with the gnome-games on 10.04 ?
[20:30] <bolster> blackxored did you try to call  the test-caller?
[20:30] <sebsebseb> Hi
[20:30] <bolster> blackxored even if it appears offline?
[20:30] <drizzt_> lucenut, install filezilla in WIndows and use FTP
[20:30] <bsmith093> i like swell foop, but its insanely slow
[20:30] <lucenut> I tried creating a "Shared Folder" in the virtualbox settings.
[20:30] <edbian> bsmith093, What is swell floop?  A game?
[20:30] <Balgan> lucenut, activate samba shares and put the VM in the same network as the host
[20:30] <bsmith093> yes basic block removing game
[20:31] <lucenut> Pointed it to C:\ with full access.
[20:31] <sebsebseb> lucenut: try #vbox
[20:31] <bsmith093> it was caled same-gnome in jaunty, the version in lucid is really slow
[20:31] <drizzt_> Ubuntu doesn't work with Vista+ network, if you don't know that already
[20:31] <sebsebseb> lucenut: plus can get a good manual from them the website
[20:31] <Slart> lucenut: I think you can share folders using the virtualbox software.. then those folders end up somewhere in the network structure.. at least that's the way it works for windows guest on linux host
[20:31] <edbian> bsmith093, Try turning off compiz and then playing.
[20:32] <bsmith093> how do i disable compiz
[20:32] <bolster> blackxored I'm not really in a location with a skypable network connection, put it that way, :D so the audio is sucking on my test call but the test call doesnt appear online until you interact with it. I have a feeling that skype only polls for status periodically so doesnt 'instantly' know someone is online.
[20:32] <elisahie> whoah, lots of peoplexors here
[20:32] <guntbert> lucenut: virtualbox support is in #vbox
[20:32] <zanberdo> re: ubuntu 9.04: I've noticed an appreciable delay during shutdown when I have not unmounted a cifs volume I regularly mount. I'd like to add something to the shutdown procedure that will automatically umount my cifs volume. How would I go about this?
[20:32] <Slart> drizzt_: samba and windows 7 can't speak to each other?
[20:32] <Berxwedan> hello, youtube videos are loading very slow, how can i fix that?
[20:32] <sebsebseb> bolster: system > preferences > apperance
[20:32] <nhasian> what program to edit PDF files?
[20:32] <sebsebseb> bolster: visual effects none
[20:32] <edbian> bsmith093, system - > preferences -> apperances -> desktop effects tab
[20:32] <drizzt_> Slart, unless some hidden settings is tweaked in Ubuntu
[20:33] <lucenut> guntbert, I don't understand.
[20:33] <bsmith093> set to none ? thanks
[20:33] <Windpoison> Berxwedan: Is your computer lagging in other ways?
[20:33] <Berxwedan> using ubuntu 10.04 x86_64 and the latest flash
[20:33] <Slart> nhasian: there is a pdf editor you can use but it's kind of clunky.. generally speaking you're not supposed to edit pdfs.. but they are plain text files.. so gedit should work
[20:33] <lucenut> Nor do I understand how to "activate samba shares". :-(
[20:33] <Berxwedan> no it does not Windpoison
[20:33] <Berxwedan> it's just flash
[20:33] <bolster> bsmith093 <sebsebseb> bolster: system > preferences > apperance > none
[20:33] <rfzero> nhasian, scribus is a good one
[20:33] <bsmith093> oki no desktop effects set
[20:33] <elisahie> I have ubuntu 10.04 and I can't get the Software Center to work. Anyone could help me? Can't find a troubleshooter for it on my own :/
[20:33] <nhasian> rfzero, thanks i'll give that a shot
[20:33] <wng-> Can someone give me some pointers, I have a headnode running dnsmasq acting as a dns/dhcp server to 8 nodes, i had them all up, but they werent going out so I enabled IP Masquerading, following the server guide, now I can't ssh within my nodes...
[20:33] <rfzero> nhasian, but you can export any openoffice document to PDF anyway
[20:34] <sebsebseb> electhor: How does it not work?
[20:34] <Balgan> Flar what problems are u getting ?
[20:34] <guntbert> lucenut: you have a problem with virtualbox (and not so with ubuntu) -- the support channel for virtualbox is #vbox  -- type /join #vbox and ask there
[20:34] <Slart> drizzt_: uhm.. I've got an mini-itx server with 9.10 talking to windows 7 machines right now.. I supposed those secret settings were included in the ubuntu package because I sure don't remember doing much to make it work
[20:34] <Berxwedan> i've both a very powerful cpu and a gpu Windpoison
[20:34] <zanberdo> nhasian, I'd read recently that the latest OOo will let you edit pdfs
[20:34] <edbian> bsmith093, Did it run faster with those turned off?
[20:34] <bsmith093> no
[20:34] <nhasian> zanberdo, really? cool i guess i'll try that first then :)
[20:34] <Windpoison> Berxwedan: Is it slow loading or lagging?
[20:34] <drizzt_> Slart, are you on drugs? PDF are *encoded* files, so the only thing you can do in gedit is to corrupt them
[20:34] <Berxwedan> Windposion: both
[20:35] <zanberdo> nhandler, and pdf is actually not plain text, that's ps. pdf is encoded ps so I don't expect gedit would do you any good (IIRC)
[20:35] <Berxwedan> it's always loading slowly, and also lags in 720p 1080p
[20:35] <zanberdo> nhasian, check it out with OOo and let us all know! :)
[20:35] <sebsebseb> Flar: How does it not work?
[20:35] <Flar> Balgan: I try to install safe programs as pidgin, msn, volume control, but it always says that cannot install as the packages are untrusted
[20:35] <drizzt_> Slart, ubuntu have problems when connecting to Vista+ servers, not the way around
[20:35] <Flar> I just updated my 9 to 10, and it didn't have this problem
[20:35] <blackxored> bolster, chat is what I need
[20:35] <lucenut> drizzt were you kidding about using FTP to connect to the host file system?
[20:35] <uLinux> I hate this monitor bug > http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/5895/bugeb.jpg < How can I fix it?
[20:35] <nhasian> bergman, openoffice 3.2 doesn't like pdf hehe
[20:36] <Slart> drizzt_: nope.. not on drugs.. the text content of pdfs are plain text.. have a look at a simple pdf
[20:36] <bsmith093> i didnt think it was possible to edit pdf with OSS software, or anything for that matter, you MIGHT be able to convert it using any one of a million free sites
[20:36] <Windpoison> Berxwedan: Mine lags in the high quality too, but slow loading could be a slow network. Do you know your network's average speed?
[20:36] <bolster> blackxored: try the skype pidgin plugin and see if it works that way *running out of ideas*
[20:36] <blackxored> bolster, it just launches skype, I did that already
[20:36] <blackxored> bolster, start a chat if you can see me on your roster, odd
[20:36] <Berxwedan> i have a 8/1 Mbit connection, it's not slow on windows btw
[20:37] <ivo_> Hi guys. I have a small problem with compiz and dual head setup
[20:37] <Balgan> Flar apparently is a known bug that has to do with servers ur using
[20:37] <Flar> I also lost my volume control button by accident and can't get it back. :D shouldn't have been removing buttons without looking properly
[20:37] <Balgan> try going to system-> admin -> software sources
[20:37] <ivo_> I ant to be able to resize a window across 2 screens
[20:37] <Balgan> and choose a different one
[20:37] <Flar> ok
[20:37] <zanberdo> nhandler, http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/Writer/DocumentManagement/Can_I_edit_PDF_files%3F
[20:37] <KaiForce> can we create smb share from command line
[20:37] <ivo_> and when I trie to do this, the windows snap to one screen
[20:37] <bolster> blackxored already did
[20:37] <Windpoison> which ubuntu are you using Berxwedan
[20:37] <ivo_> can you give me a hint how to solve this issue??
[20:38] <Berxwedan> 10.04 x86_64 Windpoison
[20:38] <blackxored> bolster, i didn't received anything
[20:38] <blackxored> damn skype
[20:38] <crlsgms___> hello everyone, any news about sabayon? im trying to make a kiosk with ubuntu 10.04 here, but it stills crashes after creating and editing the profile
[20:38] <wng-> can someone tell me what the default setting for DEFAULT_FORWARD_POLICY is in /etc/default/ufw?
[20:38] <kemal> Hi, my panel on Ubuntu 10.04 lost "network connections" icon, how can I bring it back ???
[20:39] <blackxored> kemal, wasn't that network-manager
[20:39] <bsmith093> Flar try mirror.anl.gov
[20:39] <ddl> Ubunto is for wimps and sissies!
[20:39] <Windpoison> afgsdfg
[20:39] <shazzr> I have to type in my keyring password at every logon. How can I make it remember it?
[20:39] <sebsebseb> !panels | kemal
[20:39] <ddl> The strong use Debian
[20:39] <kemal> no it was network connections showing wireless choices list around
[20:40] <Flar> hm, changing to main server seems to have done the trick :)
[20:40] <ddl> Try Debian!
[20:40] <Flar> nah
[20:40] <Windpoison> Library's internet is wonking up...
[20:40] <sebsebseb> ddl: yes there are loads of other great distros I know,  however its a bit pathetic to troll in here
[20:40] <Flar> I like mah Ububabeh
[20:40] <Flar> indeed
[20:40] <nonkalol> народ подскажите что такое композитный режим и как его включить?
[20:40] <Pici> !ru | nonkalol
[20:41] <mat619> I'm getting hundreds of "unable to enumerate usb device on port xyz" errors as soon as i plug in a USB thumb drive or any other USB mass storage device. Any ideas how to solve that problem?
[20:41] <Flar> but hey, anyone know how I could get back my original volume control button? :D
[20:41] <Pici> ddl: Do you have a support question?
[20:41] <bastidrazor> kemal: nm-applet
[20:42] <michaelocana> hi anybody have experienced installing ubuntu remix in a origami umpc (ago7)?
[20:42] <ddl> Excuse me. I'm just testing the client xchat... Ubunto is a great distro!
[20:42] <ihsw> hey i'm trying to install ImageMagick 6.5.5-10 but `apt-get install imagemagick=6.5.5-10` doesn't work (says package not found)
[20:42] <Pici> ddl: This is a support channel, if you're just here to be offtopic, then you can do so elsewhere.
[20:42] <ihsw> how do i install imagemagick-6.5.5-10 using apt?
[20:43] <michaelocana> hi anybody have experienced installing ubuntu remix in a origami umpc (ago7)?
[20:43] <sebsebseb> ddl: Thats not what you said a a little while ago
[20:43] <Windpoison> ddl:Do you think we care about debian? We are on #ubuntu
[20:44] <NCS_One> ihsw: probably apt-get install imagemagick...
[20:44] <drizzt_> yes, we agree, debian is so great distro to steal stuff from!
[20:44] <ihsw> NCS_One: that installs >6.5.5-10, i need the specific version 6.5.5-10
[20:44] <Pici> ihsw: Is there a problem with the version of imagemagick that Ubuntu tries to pull in from default?
[20:44] <sebsebseb> drizzt_: heh in a way
[20:45] <vlt> Hello. I'm using libimobiledevice 0.9.7 on Ubuntu 10.04.  When I copy music to an iPhone it doesn't appear in its ipod database (though it says "Syncing ..."). Could anyone help me troubleshoot?
[20:45] <sebsebseb> !debian
[20:45] <kemal> ubottu, it did not recover penel to default, nothing changed
[20:45] <ihsw> Pici: the ruby gem rmagick requires imagemagick <6.5.5-10
[20:45] <Jordan_U> skulski: Either use the same naming scheme for your custom kernel as the stock kernel images use, vmlinuz-<version number> and initrd.img-<same version number>, and your custom kernel will be added to the grub.cfg automatically or add your menu entry to /etc/grub.d/40_custom (move it to /etc/grub.d/09_custom if you want the entry to appear before the stock kernels).
[20:46] <ihsw> Pici: or to be more specific <=6.5.5-10
[20:46] <mat619> not a single idea anyone?
[20:46] <skulski> Jordan_U:: oh ok thanks!
[20:46] <Jordan_U> skulski: You're welcome.
[20:46] <Pici> ihsw: Which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[20:46] <ihsw> Pici: Server 10.04 i386
[20:46] <skulski> Jordan_U:: i installed this from a kernel package. moving it will cause me problems in teh future for packagemanagement?
[20:47] <skulski> it might complain that its files are gone?
[20:47] <michaelocana> hi anybody have experienced installing ubuntu remix in a origami umpc (ago7)?
[20:47] <slavik0329> Hey, when I try to watch the WWDC keynote for the iPhone on the Apple site through VLC player, colors are all off, anyone know of a solution?
[20:47] <skulski> i think i'll just add a custom entry. thanks again Jordan_U
[20:47] <ivo_> so can someone help me on my compiz gnome issue?
[20:47] <sebsebseb> mat619: maybe a permissions issue or something
[20:47] <sebsebseb> mat619: Whcih version of Ubuntu?
[20:47] <Jordan_U> skulski: If you installed it from a package then it should follow the normal scheme, and should be included by update-grub. Are you sure it isn't?
[20:48] <mat619> sebsebseb: 10.04. I'm pretty sure it's the USB 2.0 again since my USB ports are shot due to a faulty southbridge chip. I have to disable USB 2.0 in order to get it working, but i have no clue how to do that
[20:48] <drizzt_> ivo_, compiz is extremally unreliable, you should remove it if it causes problems
[20:48] <skulski> Jordan_U:: it does follow that naming scheme, but on my last update i no longer had it as an entry
[20:48] <skulski> i guess i assumed itw asn't being picked up by the grub scripts
[20:48] <sebsebseb> mat619: oh you got a hardware issue with your USB ports?
[20:48] <ivo_> drizzt_
[20:48] <skulski> but it is named as you say
[20:48] <ivo_> I need composite
[20:48] <michaelocana> anybody can help me on my issue
[20:48] <ihsw> Pici: i'm seriously considering compiling from source, also i need to install libmagick9-dev afterwards, will ubuntu not recognize my source-compiled version of imagemagick when it tries to resolve dependencies?
[20:48] <ivo_> In order everything to be smooth
[20:48] <Jordan_U> skulski: Can you pastebin your /boot/grub/grub.cfg?
[20:49] <skulski> sure
[20:49] <Pici> ihsw: The version of rmagick in the Ubuntu repositories looks like it would play nice with the version of imagemagic, just going by package dependencies though.
[20:49] <banker247> anyone familiar with linux-phc
[20:49] <skulski> Jordan_U:: one sec, let me install irc client and get on from that computer
[20:49] <mat619> sebsebseb: yup. as i said, southbridge faulty. that's why I used modprobe -r ehci_hcd to disable USB 2.0 in former version of Ubuntu, but with 10.04 that doesn't work anymore... I need a new workaround! HALP! :)
[20:49] <michaelocana> hi anybody have experienced installing ubuntu remix in a origami umpc (ago7)?
[20:50] <ihsw> Pici: well, it doesn't
[20:50] <Tittu> hello. Can anyone tell me how do i download the addition repositories for synce via windows xp. I cannot run interent on Ubuntu unless i get synce running on my system. Everywhere on the internet, what i found is the use of this line " deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/synce/ubuntu your_ubuntu_version main ", but it requires an internet connection. Can somebody help please ?
[20:50] <sebsebseb> mat619: yeah 10.04 can sometimes be a bit weird with USB devices it seems
[20:50] <Jordan_U> ihsw: dpkg / apt are only aware of things installed via dpkg/apt
[20:50] <sebsebseb> mat619: also most of us woudn't even try and disable USB support, since well you know, we want it, and to just work
[20:50] <ihsw> Jordan_U: thank you for pointing that out, is there any way to make them aware of things installed via source?
[20:50] <michaelocana> hi anybody have experienced installing ubuntu remix in a origami umpc (ago7)?
[20:51] <shazzr> I have to type in my keyring password at every logon. Any way to make my computer remember it?
[20:51] <Jordan_U> ihsw: Only by packaging them.
[20:51] <mat619> sebsebseb: I know. i don't want to diable USB completely of course, just the 2.0 support so it falls back to 1.1. Then the USB ports work without any trouble
[20:51] <ihsw> Pici: should i be installing rmagick via apt instead of gems?
[20:51] <sebsebseb> mat619: maybe you should downgrade to a previous version of Ubuntu, or try another distro,  not sure
[20:51] <Exxon> hi guys!!
[20:51] <michaelocana> hi anybody have experienced installing ubuntu remix in a origami umpc (ago7)?
[20:51] <mat619> sebsebseb: I thought about both of these options, but I'm afraid that happened due to a change in the kernel. sooner or later i won't be able to work around the issue that way.
[20:52] <Jordan_U> ihsw: Most of what packaging consists of is defining dependencies.
[20:52] <mat619> sebsebseb: there HAS to be a way to disable usb 2.0 in 10.04 though! a lot of people experience the very same issue my thinkpad throws at me here
[20:52] <michaelocana> hi anybody have experienced installing ubuntu remix in a origami umpc (ago7)?
[20:52] <Jordan_U> mat619: Can you pastebin the output of "lsmod"?
[20:52] <ihsw> Jordan_U: i'm looking for ImageMagick-6.5.5-10 deb packages
[20:53] <Jordan_U> ihsw: There is a newer version than that in 10.04
[20:54] <Exxon> shazzr: there is no need to for keyring ; simply type the password once and ignore the keyring password.
[20:54] <ihsw> Jordan_U: i know, but i need 6.5.5-10
[20:54] <Pici> ihsw: You may want to take a look at the comments on this bug: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/librmagick-ruby/+bug/518122
[20:54] <Jordan_U> ihsw: Why?
[20:54] <Pici> ihsw: Rather than forcing that version of imagemagic, fix the rmagick bug.
[20:54] <ihsw> Jordan_U: rmagick requires imagemagick <=6.5.5-10
[20:55] <ihsw> Pici: i'm looking at that page now
[20:55] <Sander12343> Hey
[20:55] <MKM> hii..!!
[20:55] <Kamilion> Just a heads up for people having trouble installing lucid in virtualbox: ext4 is somehow causing problems; but ext3 works!
[20:56] <Whammo> I'm trying to figure out how to use fwcutter without accessing the internet (silly, huh?)
[20:56] <Whammo> is there a way for fwcutter to pull firmware from the device itself, or to dump it from?
[20:56] <Sander12343> I was wondering why some programs are removed when doing a (partial) upgrade. For instance the Nvidia drivers, the network manager and some other server components are removed.
[20:57] <Sander12343> Very annoying if you ask me
[20:57] <Jordan_U> ihsw: Specifically, this comment seems to be the way to go about this properly: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/librmagick-ruby/+bug/518122/comments/17
[20:57] <help11> installed ubuntu, now i dnt have sound :|
[20:58] <Jordan_U> Whammo: The reason that the firmware is needed is that the device doesn't store it in non volitile memory, it needs to be loaded onto the card for the card to function
[20:58] <ihsw> Jordan_U: i'm going to try that now
[20:59] <Jordan_U> Whammo: You can get the firmware (to put in /lib/firmware) from these files: http://jordanu.dyndns.org/b43-firmware-lucid.tar.gz , http://jordanu.dyndns.org/b43legacy-firmware-lucid.tar.gz
[20:59] <Jordan_U> Whammo: Assuming you have a flash drive or some other way to transfer those files to the computer in question.
[21:00] <Whammo> Jordan_U: perfect thanks
[21:00] <Jordan_U> Whammo: You're welcome
[21:01] <MKM> exit
[21:01] <gonzzor|web> I'm having problem with ipv6. DNS queries for missing AAAA records will search for www.host.com.localdomain despite an empty search in /etc/resolv.conf. Any ideas what could be wrong?
[21:02] <drizzt_> anyone knows how to enable GL acceleration for radeon X800? anything more heavy then glxgears and compiss is TERRIBLY slow
[21:03] <freud> hi all, anyone got time for a sendmail problem?
[21:03] <bastidrazor> gonzzor|web: ##network may be a better channel
[21:03] <MKM> drizzt_: ur sys graphic details..??
[21:03] <bastidrazor> gonzzor|web: ##networking
[21:04] <KaOSoFt> Hmm... when I use the nautilus-share component, whatever settings I change in the Sharing options right-click option, what smb.conf file does it modify? I've checked the one in both /etc/samba/ and /usr/share/samba/, and they are untouched.
[21:04] <Norbi905> Hello, I have a board with an integrated ATI ES1000 video graphics.  I am trying to install UnixBench on Ubuntu 10.04.  This benchmarking utility needs GL.h to compile.  However, I'm assuming since I have no video driver installed, I also have no OpenGL.  Safe assumption?  How can go about this since there is no driver for this embedded video card.  Any input is apreciated.
[21:04] <MKM> freud : ??
[21:05] <drizzt_> MKM, radeon X800 series (RV515), radeon driver, lycid lynx?
[21:05] <Philip2> Hello all!
[21:05] <Philip2> I switched to ubuntu not to long ago :)
[21:06] <arck> hola
[21:06] <deli-tullio> yury
[21:06] <deli-tullio> eilaaaaaaaaaa
[21:06] <freud> I installed ubuntu couple days ago, to host tikiwiki, tried everything to get sendmail working, triewd ssmtp, exim, couple others, all i get is cannot connect to mail.mydomain.se, trieis there a log file or something that hints whrer the stoppage is?
[21:06] <deli-tullio> ciaooooooo
[21:06] <arck> alquien me opuede recomedar un bue editor de video
[21:06] <Philip2> Anyway I have a question about 'Passwords and encryption keys'
[21:06] <Philip2> What does that do?
[21:07] <drizzt_> Philip2, it's interface to gpg keyring
[21:07] <sebsebseb> !pt | arck
[21:07] <Philip2> Oh I see. Well thanks for saying :)
[21:07] <nimbus> Anyone know how to fix this font problem? I reset Gnome and it worked for a while but it has returned http://dl.dropbox.com/u/525416/Screenshot-cirruslyceltic.png
[21:07] <freud> MKM: i am trying to sendmail to exchange server on my network, within same domain, evolution can do it, my windows install could do it, so 25 is ok...
[21:08] <KaOSoFt> When I use the nautilus-share component, whatever settings I change in the Sharing options right-click option, what smb.conf file does it modify? I've checked the one in both /etc/samba/ and /usr/share/samba/, and they are untouched.
[21:08] <gonzzor|web> bastidrazor: Thanks
[21:09] <alexlaban> Hello
[21:09] <chatur> i have ubuntu 10.04 with vlc player install in ...whenever i try to watch movie of any format,the video seems to be choppy.
[21:09] <Exxon> freud: i guess many of us tried to configure sendmail to work properly but always it was a failure..welcome to the gang.!
[21:10] <freud> exxon: are you implying it is in fact not doable, or just tricka as h*ll?
[21:10] <drizzt_> anyone knows how to enable GL acceleration for radeon X800? anything more heavy then glxgears and compiss is TERRIBLY slow
[21:10] <MKM> freud : try this http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/sendmail
[21:10] <freud> MKM: 404
[21:11] <alexlaban> I have a couple of old harddrive which were connected to an old ubuntusystem. Now I want to connect them and automount them in my new computer however I got one problem. When I mount it from the Places menu it asks after a password which the same password as my main users password from the old computer. How do I remove it or do so I do not have to write it in? Never had to in the old computer so I didn't even think it were password protecte
[21:11] <VCoolio> chatur: what window manager? composited? what video card?
[21:12] <chatur> i have a ATI mobility radeon 7500
[21:12] <drizzt_> alexlaban, save it in your keyring
[21:12] <freud> MKM:sry, just htm on end missing, found it...
[21:12] <MKM> freud : www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/sendmail.html
[21:12] <drizzt_> alexlaban, is this windows server ypu're connecting to?
[21:12] <VCoolio> chatur: don't know about ati, sorry
[21:12] <alexlaban> No it's a locale harddrive
[21:12] <KaiForce> chatur:  full screen video?
[21:12] <alexlaban> Ext4 formatted
[21:13] <alexlaban> Well 2 harddrives at 1.5TB each
[21:13] <chatur> yes...you are right...i am not able to view full screen video
[21:13] <gonzzor|web> bastidrazor: thanks again, solved my problem. Adding "search ." to /etc/resolv.conf disable it.
[21:13] <alexlaban> Both almost full so I'd rather not lose the files ;)
[21:13] <drizzt_> alexlaban, try to add them to fstab
[21:13] <vlt> Hello. I'm using libimobiledevice 0.9.7 on Ubuntu 10.04.  When I copy music to an iPhone it doesn't appear in its ipod database (though it says "Syncing ..."). Could anyone help me troubleshoot?
[21:13] <KaiForce> alexlaban:  mount them, copy the data off, and reformat them would work - if that is an option
[21:14] <alexlaban> drizzt_ How does one do that
[21:14] <help11> someone help me
[21:14] <alexlaban> KaiForce, I don't have 3TB spare to temporairly store the data at
[21:14] <drizzt_> alexlaban, are those internal ata/sata drives? not external usb ones?
[21:14] <help11> just installed ubuntu . bt no sound i guess :(
[21:14] <alexlaban> So no it's not an option
[21:14] <KaiForce> alexlaban: thus the "if" portion of my suggestion
[21:14] <alexlaban> drizzt_ : Both sata
[21:15] <MKM> alexiaban : js back up the data and formate the drives.....!
[21:15] <alexlaban> MKM: Not an option need the files and got nowhere to store them and put them back
[21:15] <drizzt_> alexlaban, add lines to /etc/fstab. you can learn fstab format in the internet
[21:16] <KaiForce> alexlaban:  if these are important you need to back them up
[21:16] <KaiForce> hard drives fail all the time
[21:16] <rh1n0> what is a 'stripped' and 'unstripped' binary? i was thinking stripped meant it was optimized, debug code removed etc.
[21:16] <alexlaban> KaiForce: It's not really important stuff but still I'd rather not lose thefiles if I don't have to
[21:16] <KaiForce> i see
[21:16] <drizzt_> rh1n0, stripped=without debug symbols
[21:16] <siddhion> greetings. does anyone know about Xubuntu 10.04 networking really well? I am having a slow wired Ethernet connection issue on my new install of Xubuntu 10.04
[21:17] <rh1n0> drizzt_: ok thanks, i thought so and hence is labelled -dbg in the repo
[21:17] <MrPocketz> Anyone running DansGuardian?
[21:17] <Exxon> help11:   sudo lshw -C sound
[21:17] <Whammo> Jordan_U: last question... should all the *.fw be dumped into /lib/firmware or should the b43 and b43legacy directories go there?
[21:17] <guntbert> !anyone | MrPocketz
[21:18] <Jordan_U> Whammo: The b43 and b43legacy directories should go there
[21:18] <Whammo> Jordan_U: great really thanks a lot
[21:18] <RxDx> is there anyway to keep avant dock visible but not overlaying the window (i cant see what i am writing now cuz the bar is over)
[21:18] <Jordan_U> Whammo: You're welcome.
[21:18] <alexlaban> Reading about fstab on google but don't find anything about passwordprotected drives
[21:19] <crlsgms____> hello everyone, how do i change user hability to change desktop background on gnome?
[21:19] <siddhion> my slow internet issue is detailed in full over here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1504812 any help would be greatly greatly appreciated.
[21:20] <drizzt_> alexlaban, man fstab then
[21:20] <MrPocketz> guntbert, I'm well aware of this. But i'd rather not go into detail about an issue I'm having if no one in the channel has even heard of the software I'm trying to configure.
[21:20] <MrPocketz> Occasionaly, DansGuardian will just load a blank page when blocking sites.  It seems like it's sites that have heavy word-counts,  like porn sites with umteen catagories.  Is anyone familiar with this?  PM MrPocketS if i'm not here plz :-)
[21:20] <anodesni> Opendns can be used as filtering
[21:21] <MrPocketz> yes, yes it can
[21:21] <mouse> I got a 2 half installed packages, bsd-mailx and dput, on 10.04, I can't get it fixed.
[21:21] <MrPocketz> So can Endian, PFSense, Untangle, Squid, ProxyGuard,
[21:21] <rh1n0> so i have installed ruby1.8, ruby1.8-dbg but when i check on the binary it shows its stripped. How can i use the dbg version?
[21:21] <MrPocketz> but I'm using DansGuard...
[21:21] <mouse> aptitude won't fix, I tried dpkg --remove dput bsd-mailx, didn't work... :|
[21:21] <pocketcoffe> :):):):):):) ©º°¨¨°º©©º°¨¨°º© CiaoOoOo A TuTTo il ChaN!!!!!!!! ©º°¨¨°º©©º°¨¨°º© (:(:(:(: 
[21:21] <pocketcoffe> :):):):):):) ©º°¨¨°º©©º°¨¨°º© Mo So Qua e nOn Me sKiodO piU'!! ©º°¨¨°º©©º°¨¨°º© (:(:(:(:
[21:21] <pocketcoffe> seraaaa
[21:21] <anodesni> dansguardian is very compicated
[21:21] <guntbert> pocketcoffe: don't do that
[21:22] <bsmith093> is it possible to install 10.1 maverick on a blank partition from a running ubuntu install ( without rebooting and wasting a cd or usb space
[21:22] <mouse> dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute installed pre-removal script: Exec format error << how would I go at cleaning that?
[21:22] <pocketcoffe> italian help?
[21:22] <guntbert> !it | pocketcoffe
[21:22] <MrPocketz> anodesni, it's really not
[21:22] <Montblanc> hello everybody
[21:22] <pocketcoffe> grazie vai a sucare
[21:22] <drizzt_> it very unwise to use 3rd-party DNS services
[21:22] <MrPocketz> I mean, i've got it working perfectly, it just kinda flakes out on certain sites it blocks
[21:22] <anodesni> MrPocketz, for me it was
[21:22] <Montblanc> does anyone know what's hardware memory hole and the iommu kernel parameter?
[21:23] <MrPocketz> drizzt_, no, it's not. pretty much *everything* uses 3rd party DNS in one way or another..
[21:23] <pocketcoffe> do you wanna such my peach?
[21:23] <crlsgms____> does Glockenspiel already work? is there another alternative to have ubuntu as a kiosk?
[21:23] <MrPocketz> anodesni, wha't'd you run it on?
[21:23] <anodesni> MrPocketz, I started a petition once to port bluecoat webfiltering
[21:23] <siddhion> how does one make the internet faster for Xubuntu 10.04?
[21:23] <MrPocketz> I installed it with apt-get on Ubuntu server, and it worked right outta the box.
[21:23] <drizzt_> you have no contractual obligations with 3rd party dns provider, so they can do everything, including spying on your queries
[21:24] <MrPocketz> drizzt_, you think your ISP doesn't?
[21:24] <anodesni> MrPocketz, I installed it in the days of 5.04
[21:24] <MrPocketz> your ISP can spy on anything that goes through it if they want
[21:24] <justinh> good evening folks.  I'm having a little pickle of an issue here whereby apt doesn't seem to be working at all.  apt-get update is complaining that "W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Something wicked happened resolving 'archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)"  for example.  Anybody got any ideas?  I've not been messing with sources.
[21:24] <MrPocketz> anodesni, ahh.
[21:24] <MrPocketz> I'm finding it a lot easier to understand than Squid
[21:24] <pocketcoffe> •drizzt_• do you wanna such my peach?
[21:24] <antiprodukt> hm
[21:24] <guntbert> justinh: try with another mirror
[21:25] <drizzt_> my ISP works accordingly to local laws, 3rd party doesnt
[21:25] <drizzt_> !ops | pocketcoffe harassment
[21:25] <justinh> guntbert: I tried changing to just archive.ubuntu.com - still the same result
[21:25] <siddhion> how does one reinstall the driver to their ethernet contrller?
[21:25] <maco> drizzt_: already gone
[21:26] <bastidrazor> justinh: System > Adminstartion > Software Sources  and let it find the best server
[21:26] <MKM> vlt : sync using rhythmbox it works...!
[21:26] <justinh> bastidrazor: I'll give that a try thanks
[21:27] <vlt> MKM: How? The files are stored on the phone (I can see that when logging in via ssh) but don't appear in the phone's track database.
[21:27] <steven78700> hello
[21:27] <guntbert> !hi | steven78700
[21:28] <steven78700> what is ubuntu irc fr please ?
[21:28] <bsmith093> can i run an install iso for maverick meerkat from within lucid to install to a black partition?
[21:28] <justinh> nope.  still the same problem from the gui software source selector too
[21:28] <bastidrazor> steven78700: #ubuntu-fr
[21:28] <steven78700> merci
[21:29] <Jordan_U> !maverick | bsmith093
[21:29] <didi> Gnome's Lucid seems to not honor the values I choose for Xf86Sleep and Xf86PowerOff after a reboot. I choose them to perform `mute' and `decrease volume' and they work fine until I reboot. The strange thing is that when I go to the menu to change them, they are already assign to do these things although they aren't doing them. I also assign xf86WakeUp to `increase volume' and that works fine between reboots. Does someone knows how to
[21:29] <didi> fix this?
[21:29] <justinh> ]hahah
[21:29] <justinh> my box simply cannot access the internet.  lol
[21:30] <MKM> vlt : when u send files in ssh it simply gets transfered as gettin transfered onto a hd.., did u try rhythmbox..?, if yes what does it say..?
[21:30] <siddhion> hello?
[21:30] <dzboy> hello
[21:30] <siddhion> hi
[21:30] <vlt> MKM: I only tried rhythmbox
[21:31] <Gryllida> Where is SSH client here?
[21:31] <vlt> MKM: After copying w/ r.box I can _see_ them via ssh, but not in the player
[21:31] <YoJack> can anyone help me with DSpace config for karmic
[21:31] <guntbert> justinh: is that the same box you are using right now?
[21:32] <slavik0329> Hey, when I try to watch the WWDC keynote for the iPhone on the Apple site through VLC player, colors are all off,  anyone know of a solution?
[21:32] <MKM> vlt : then just drag the files onto the device icon in the left panel.., ie ur phone icon...
[21:33] <vlt> MKM: I did exactly this
[21:33] <vlt> MKM: The phone then says "Syncing ..." and the player app stops
[21:34] <MKM> vlt : nw click the device icon..., can u see the files in the window...??
[21:34] <vlt> MKM: When I restart the player there are no new files.  While files I deleted using Rhytmbox still appear there but are not playable (because they're actually deleted from the phone)
[21:35] <mfpcokets> Hello all
[21:35] <justinh> guntbert: no not the same box.  I'd set it to a manually configured IP address a while back & forgot to set the gateway.  Whoops!
[21:35] <vlt> MKM: Which device icon do you mean? In Rhythmbox or Gnome?
[21:35] <LouisJB> got the latest Ubuntu and having trouble adding sun java jdk with sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk - I've added sudo add-apt-repository “deb http://archive.canonical.com/ lucid partner" as a repository but it's complaining about a string of dependencies and if I add them eventually some can't be installed :s
[21:36] <MKM> which version is ur os..??, whats the version of ur rhythmbox...??
[21:36] <guntbert> justinh: you mean you fond the error? fine :-)
[21:36] <mfpcokets> Im looking to play 720p x264 mkv on my acer aspire one connected to a bigger display.  I used to be able to do this in windows with core AVC but i switched to ubuntu recently and cannot find an equivilant.  someone yesterday suggested sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras vlc but it hasnt impproved the playback
[21:36] <MKM> vlt :which version is ur os..??, whats the version of ur rhythmbox...??
[21:36] <guntbert> !u | MKM
[21:37] <crypt-0> i need help with ufw i explicitly allowed a ip adress to connect for ssh, however ufw still blocks it
[21:37] <MKM> ubottu :ok
[21:37] <fowlduck> stab the f
[21:37] <drizzt_> crypt-0, you've got something wrong then
[21:37] <Xpistos> for some reason, After installing 10.04 I cannot right click on my desktop. When I do I don't get a context menu. Has anyone heard of this.
[21:37] <erxyz> Anybody know how to configure the DNS server in the Minimal Ubuntu(mini.iso)??
[21:38] <Gryllida> Where is SSH client here? I can't find it in the menus
[21:38] <drizzt_> erxyz, i believe there's bind
[21:38] <Xpistos> Gryllida: Are you looking for a GUI?
[21:38] <Jordan_U> Gryllida: Open a terminal and "ssh user@host"
[21:38] <Gryllida> aww ok.
[21:38] <Norbi905> I have an application that when compiling gives me an error in regards to GL.h not found.  The video card on this motherboard is an on-board one ATI ES1000 for which I can't find a Linux driver for.  Is there anyway I can install OpenGL another way, or am I missing something?  Any input would be helpful.
[21:39] <guntbert> Gryllida: The OpenSSH client is included in Ubuntu by default.
[21:39] <rockets> Is there some way to bind a key combonation to take me back to the menu, in Ubuntu 10.04 netbook edition
[21:39] <Xpistos> Gryllida: Putty is in the repos otherwise you can connect from the commandline via ssh USER@hostame
[21:39] <Jordan_U> Gryllida: There are GUI ssh clients available, but there's not much point IMHO
[21:39] <Wavesonics> what does it mean if a link is RED in bash ls?
[21:39] <MKM> Xpistos : Configure your mouse options..., it happens sumtimes...!
[21:39] <Sereph> what can I do to make the places menu notice dynamically any drives mounted in /mnt
[21:40] <Xpistos> MKM: Even though it is only on the desktop?
[21:40] <mfpcokets> Im looking to play 720p x264 mkv on my acer aspire one connected to a bigger display.  I used to be able to do this in windows with core AVC but i switched to ubuntu recently and cannot find an equivilant.  someone yesterday suggested sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras vlc but it hasnt impproved the playback    Any ideas?
[21:40] <Jordan_U> Wavesonics: The target that the symlink points to does not exist.
[21:40] <MKM> Xpistos : Ya.., just give it a shot...!!
[21:40] <lighta> mfpcokets, did u tryed xrand ?
[21:41] <Xpistos> Will give it a shot
[21:41] <Wavesonics> Jordan_U, thanks :D
[21:41] <Gryllida> Jordan_U: how do I remove something from list of known hosts in ssh?
[21:41] <Jordan_U> Wavesonics: You're welcome.
[21:41] <mfpcokets> Lighta:  nope.  its another vid player?  sudo apt-get xrand?
[21:41] <erxyz> Anybody know how to configure the DNS server in the Minimal Ubuntu(mini.iso)??
[21:41] <vlt> MKM: Ubuntu 10.04, Gnome 2.30, libimobiledevice 0.9.7, Rhythmbox 0.12.8, iPhone ProductVersion: 3.0.1, ModelNumber: MA712
[21:41] <Gryllida> Jordan_U: it had authencity problems, I added it though, now i want to remove
[21:42] <crypt-0> drizzt_, pretty sure i don't.
[21:42] <lighta> mfpcokets, is to configure your screen output, wait I'll give you exact sentance laptop or normal comp ?
[21:42] <wildbat> erxyz, sudo tasksel
[21:42] <Travis-42> an application crashed on me, but it's process is still running. no matter what kill signal I send it, it remains. is there any other way to get rid of it?
[21:42] <mfpcokets> lighta: its a netbook.
[21:42] <lighta> mfpcokets, install it first
[21:42] <Sam_Fisher> Howdy Ya'll
[21:42] <yosi> i spent the last 4 hours tring to get stupid Mondo Rescue to work under ubuntu 10.04 smoothly with little luck..any other simple single file image backup program out there that supports ext4?
[21:43] <mfpcokets> lighta: john@john-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install xrand
[21:43] <mfpcokets> [sudo] password for john:
[21:43] <mfpcokets> Reading package lists... Done
[21:43] <mfpcokets> Building dependency tree
[21:43] <mfpcokets> Reading state information... Done
[21:43] <FloodBot1> mfpcokets: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:43] <mfpcokets> E: Couldn't find package xrand
[21:43] <Sam_Fisher> yosi: Mondo what? Clonespy dude!
[21:43] <crypt-0> drizzt_, the rule is valid, it works when only one ip is specified for that port, but a new rule will not (its limited to one ip per port)
[21:43] <wildbat> yosi, tar?
[21:43] <epin8r> hmmm... my automount (in karmic) stopped working at some point... what program/script should i look at to figure out what's wrong?
[21:44] <lighta> mfpcokets, xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 720x264 (if this mode exist on your card)
[21:44] <yosi> sam: clonespy.. will it work with ext and on a live system?
[21:44] <MKM> vlt : i just found some pages that might you...,https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[21:44] <Sam_Fisher> My Laptop 10.04 which was upgraded not fresh installed is now failing to fetch updates and other strange issues. How to fix update issue?
[21:45] <paddy_> i greped a 500gb file and now i have the byte offsets needed to find infomation in the file, how do i read from a particular offset, a scrolable program would be nice!
[21:45] <MKM> vlt : http://maketecheasier.com/sync-iphone-with-rhythmbox/2010/02/13
[21:45] <lighta> mfpcokets, oups not VGA1 probably LVDS1
[21:45] <yosi> wildbat: I tried tar & dump with webmin, but when i select the source as "/" to do the entire drive, it runs forever and never ends
[21:45] <bsmith093> if i torrented maverick do i have to check the md5 ahs or is that automatic in the torrent app
[21:45] <Jordan_U> Gryllida: The list of known hosts is stored in ~/.ssh/known_hosts by default the host names are hashed for security, so it can be hard to tell which entry corrosponds to the server you want to remove
[21:45] <mfpcokets> lighta: isnt 720p 1368*720 ?
[21:45] <drizzt_> paddy_, gcc
[21:46] <Gryllida> Jordan_U: bah, how do I remove it anyways?
[21:46] <epin8r> paddy_: what are you trying to do?
[21:46] <paddy_> drizzt without writing a program myself
[21:46] <ninjai> How can I encode video for playback on my iphone?
[21:46] <wildbat> yosi you can't just do "/" it will include your dev proc and your mount point. you need exclude dir
[21:46] <wildbat> !backup | yosi
[21:46] <ianwizard> Hello everyone.
[21:46] <MKM> vlt : basically apple as its policies.., if you wish to use your iphone on ubuntu then you can jailbreak those policies...!!
[21:46] <mfpcokets> lighta: my res is 1920*1080 now, but when i play the file im getting lots of lost frames like the netbook cannot handle it.  they didnt work in windows without a plugin installed which reduced the sys requirements for 720p vids
[21:47] <Jordan_U> Gryllida: If you don't have any other server's credentials saved that you can't lose then just "rm ~/.ssh/known_hosts"
[21:47] <affent> salutare
[21:47] <affent> aloha
[21:47] <chazco> Hi... Ubuntu seems to randomly log me out on this computer? No errors or anything - the screen blanks, and then the login window shows up. Its a fresh install of 9.10. Any ideas?
[21:47] <affent> ciao
[21:47] <paddy_> i trashed the partition table and file system on my hard drive and i needed a load of php files so i did "cat /dev/sda | grep [some stuff i cant remember] > file, i need to read /dev/sda from the locations grep gave
[21:47] <drizzt_> crypt-0, which is your IP mask?
[21:48] <Jordan_U> chazco: Do you have a 3D screensaver?
[21:48] <Sereph> what can I do to make the places menu notice dynamically any drives mounted in /mnt
[21:48] <lighta> mfpcokets, just run command xrandr this will display mode you can have on your card
[21:48] <Gryllida> Jordan_U: Thank you.
[21:48] <chazco> Jordan_U - No screensavers set. It does it when the system is in use anyway...
[21:48] <paddy_> i trashed the partition table and file system on my hard drive and i needed a load of php files so i did "cat /dev/sda | grep [some stuff i cant remember] "<?php" > file, i need to read /dev/sda from the locations grep gave
[21:48] <Jordan_U> Gryllida: You're welcome.
[21:48] <guntbert> Gryllida: known_hosts is an ordinary text file, one line for each host - you can just remove that line
[21:48] <knome> hey, is there any new information in issues related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/565530 or so? my line-in is not working in lucid with alsa and i'd appreciate any help or pointers
[21:48] <Jordan_U> guntbert: The hard part is knowing which line to remove :)
[21:48] <Gryllida> guntbert: Jordan_U: I just deleted the file, I don't have anything valuable there atm
[21:48] <bsmith093> paddy_ u need to rewrite the partition table
[21:49] <host> hi
[21:49] <paddy_> i have tried all recovery methods
[21:49] <yosi> wildbat: can you backup a live system with dump/tar?  or do u have to shutdown the databases first?
[21:49] <bsmith093> and did anything work
[21:49] <mick02> Herro, is it me you're rooking for?
[21:49] <ninjai> How can I encode video for playback on my iphone?????
[21:49] <paddy_> is to goto line X in a file
[21:49] <mfpcokets> lighta: http://paste.ubuntu.com/446839/
[21:49] <guntbert> !ot | mick02
[21:49] <Jordan_U> paddy_: Use photorec, it does basically the same thing but slightly more sophisticated and much more well tuned
[21:50] <ianwizard> I've got a bug that I'm tired of putting up with.  Hopefully someone here can help me ;)  When I use the inhibit applet, it doesn't stop my comp from suspending when I close the lid.  Everything is done through gnome-power-manager, and this doesn't happen with the live cd.  (it's 10.04 ofcourse) does anybody know what might cause this, or how to fix it?
[21:50] <paddy_> you need to give photorec a partition which i do not have
[21:50] <mick02> Sheesh, so much for lightening the mood.
[21:50] <drizzt_> yosi, theoretically you can, but most tar frontends doesnt support it
[21:50] <Abrodmain> trop beaux
[21:50] <guntbert> !fr | Abrodmain
[21:50] <ianwizard> ninjai: use winff, it lets you do all kinds of conversion with audio and video.  including Mac formats.
[21:50] <wildbat> yosi, i think so unless it have a read locks
[21:51] <bsmith093> when i put in a blank cdr ubuntu doesnt see it, no icon, write to disc says please insert a valid cd, but i can burn by the terminal
[21:51] <Jordan_U> paddy_: You can probably point it at the entire drive.
[21:51] <ninjai> ianwizard: thanks!
[21:51] <paddy_> i dont see how
[21:51] <Sam_Fisher> terminal command to reset ALL network settings?
[21:51] <ianwizard> ninjai: welcome.
[21:51] <ninjai> ianwizard: also, would you happen to know where I would place these on my iphone, or how I can transfer them?
[21:52] <mick02> I'm looking to set up a VOD system in my friends house. I've taken a look online and other than ffmpeg there doesn't seem to be anything. Can anyone suggest a solution?
[21:52] <ianwizard> ninjai: no, i do not have an Iphone, and don't know how to mount one,  but I know that it can be done with linux
[21:53] <Njh> does anyone have a recommendation on a tutorial or something on how to set up a server
[21:53] <ianwizard> ninjai: also, you might be able to import the video with Itunes.
[21:53] <ianwizard> ninjai: and then transfer it.
[21:54] <ninjai> true.
[21:54] <mick02> Njh: Check out HowToForge.com
[21:54] <Jordan_U> paddy_: Try choosing "none" for the partition table type. How did you get to this point in the first place?
[21:54] <justinh> mick02: not heard of XBMC/mythtv/boxee/moovida then? ;-)
[21:54] <ninjai> ianwizard: true.  hm.  any idea how i can pass my iphone through to itunes on a VM?
[21:55] <justinh> mick02: not forgetting VLC of course
[21:55] <mick02> justinh: Will I be able to stream from a central headless server to multiple clients using those solutions?
[21:55] <MKM> Njh : http://www.freeos.com/articles/4121/
[21:55] <justinh> mick02: a server just has to host files to shares which clients mount... so sure
[21:56] <Jordan_U> ninjai: Why do you want ituntes? rhythmbox (the default in Ubuntu) should be able to transfer to and from your iPhone
[21:56] <ianwizard> ninjai: you could use VirtualBox and connect it as a usb device.  However, I thought that you could get Itunes for linux...
[21:56] <crypt-0> drizzt_, can i PM you?
[21:56] <vlt> MKM: Thank you. Can you help me translate the wiki tutorial? What does "Please note: you might need to restart the Rythmbox for it to recognize the album art on the newly uploaded tracks" mean?
[21:56] <mick02> justinh: Not really though, the server will have to encode the files to get them ready for streaming. I was hoping to set up an IPTV box in each room
[21:56] <ninjai> jordan_U: rhythmbox wont transfer video.
[21:56] <drizzt_> crypt-0, why? i'm not exactly ssh expert
[21:56] <ninjai> ianwizard: nope you definitely cannot.
[21:57] <MKM> Njh : http://www.aboutdebian.com/internet.htm
[21:57] <justinh> mick02: ruh?  since when did people store uncompressed video on their home networks?
[21:57] <vlt> MKM: And "Please see the section above on setting the Firewire GUID". Which section is that?
[21:57] <cliff_> programs cant run after x updates please help!
[21:57] <justinh> mick02: you can even 'stream' bluray over a home network without much trouble.  especially so with wired networks
[21:58] <ianwizard> ninjai: then try VirtualBox, it should work, and is in the repos.  If you can't find it then you can get it from Sun (now Oracle)
[21:58] <Njh> MKM: thanks
[21:58] <drizzt_> cliff_, more details please
[21:58] <crypt-0> drizzt_, prefer not to paste logs for the world to see.
[21:58] <yosi> Can I Tar or Dump an entire drive?   when i try to dump and entire drive with path"/" it doesn't stop running
[21:58] <mick02> justinh: From what I've been reading on different VOD sites they say that the video needs to be encoded and encapsulated before it is served to the clients. Remember that each room in the house will not have a PC installed, the servers will be streaming directly to the TV (via an IPTV box)
[21:58] <Njh> MKM: will the debian one work with ubuntu
[21:58] <Sam_Fisher> command to reset network settings!
[21:58] <justinh> mick02: sounds like a way overcomplicated way to do things if you ask me
[21:59] <Sam_Fisher> and not abbracadabra!
[21:59] <MKM> vlt : that is just the album art..., ie the art image of the particular album.., its ok if you dont set the album art..., and what was that about firewire..?
[21:59] <ianwizard> ninjai: I also found this for running it on WINE, though I find WINE to be hit or miss.  No guarantees that it will work with WINE.
[21:59] <ninjai> ianwizard: thanks, i already have vbox installed w/ windows
[22:00] <ianwizard> ninjai: ok, enjoy then.
 some time ago on ubuntu lucid i made some updates covering i think x server, audio (alsa), nvidia driver. they all died or malfuntioned, so far i fixed nvidia and audio
[22:01] <Jordan_U> paddy_: I just tried choosing "none" for partition table type and it works, but if it's only your partition table that's corrupt you can easily restore that.
[22:01] <ianwizard> Inhibit applet isn't preventing suspend when I close the lid.  any help?
[22:01] <MKM> Njh : are you looking at setting up a high end web server or a simple local host...??
[22:02] <vlt> MKM: There's a firewire GUID that has to match a certain hash in the iTunes_Control directory
[22:02] <Njh> MKM: i am able to create a simple local host, ... i want to know how to create a high end web server on ubuntu so i know for future reference, but really all i want is certain files up so i can reach them anywhere
 some of the apps that dont run are: ubuntu network manager, dropbox, IRC wont display the icon, etc I think the problem is the x server update but idk wat do you think?
[22:02] <vlt> MKM: I set this GUID but it still doesn't work
[22:03] <drizzt_> cliff_, are you sure that upgrade complered successfully?
[22:03] <ninjai> ianwizard: how do i pass aUSB device to vbox?
[22:04] <ianwizard> ninjai: there should be something under "Devices", that allows you to pick what to send through.  I'll look
[22:04] <evilsherpa> morning all, mount point media/ipod does not exist
 yes im sure i waited till the end and restarted to see the changes.
[22:04] <evilsherpa> but i can see it
[22:05] <drizzt_> cliff_, i have no idea (
[22:05] <Reallycool> !controls
[22:05] <KaOSoFt> If I share the folder through Nautilus, I can see it using the "smbclient -L //server", but I don't find it in the smb.conf files. Where is this smbclient program reading those settings?
[22:06] <MKM> Njh : if its for learning then play around with LAMP- linux, apache , mysql,php. if not just follow http://librenix.com/?inode=7417 for setting up servers in ubuntu...!!!
 i think that update also included the new .22 headers and since then, the update manager always displays that as a new update even right after installing it. its crazy
[22:08] <MKM> vlt : i am not sure but i think this might help you out http://syn.ac/iphone/22/islsk-your-firewire-guid-couldn%E2%80%99t-be-recognized-and-therefore-music-importing-will-not-be-available/
[22:08] <ninjai> ianwizard: did you figure it out? I can only see cd/dvd or floppy.
[22:08] <Njh> MKM: will that work for more up to date ubuntu
[22:08] <oneNewUser> what app can I use to play .mov files?  I've installed ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:09] <MKM> Njh :LAMP..??
[22:09] <ianwizard> ninjai: I'm still looking. I know I've seen this before.
[22:09] <Njh> MKM: yah.. im new at this ...
[22:09] <nimbus> Any suggestions what to do about this ongoing font problem? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/525416/Screenshot-cirruslyceltic.png
[22:09] <drizzt_> KaOSoFt, check ~/.smb
[22:09] <theDEAD> Is there a .deb or how can i install FireFox 3.6.4 beta?
[22:10] <drizzt_> theDEAD, nighttly release tarball?
[22:10] <theDEAD> i dont know how to use that format
[22:10] <ianwizard> ninjai: I figured it out.
[22:10] <theDEAD> nightly is for minefield
[22:11] <ianwizard> ninjai: you have to get the full version.  It isn't supported in OSE (Open Source Edition)
[22:11] <drizzt_> nimbus, change your encoding
[22:11] <KaOSoFt> drizzt_, nope, no such folder.
[22:11] <KaOSoFt> I can see hidden folders and files.
[22:11] <ianwizard> ninjai: I've got to go now, but I may be back later.  Look Here http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Editions
[22:11]  * theDEAD slaps ph33r around a bit with a large trout
[22:11] <ninjai> ianwizard: lol do you have to but the full version? haha
[22:12] <theDEAD> ph33r :>)
[22:12] <ninjai> ianwizard: thanks, c ya
[22:12] <theDEAD> anyhow, FireFox 3.6.4 beta?
[22:12] <MKM> Njh : you see basically apache is a web server which can be locally set up in your systems.., try sudo apt-get install apache2..., then you need a back end database for your server so install mysql.., sudo apt-get install mysqld.., to configure you web pages you need php.., sudo apt-get install php5...,
[22:13] <Rev_> hi, im afraid my ubunut 9.04 doesnt do the shutdown sequence anymore. X closes, i arrive on the terminal which asks for a login, and then 1 seconde after, blam, it powers off. and every boot requires a fsck full of errors
[22:13] <Rev_> how can i force a correct shutdown sequence
[22:13] <nimbus> drizzt_, how do I change the encoding?
[22:13] <Njh> MKM:  yah i know how to do all of the local stuff, im wondering how to get it so i can set it up to be accessed online
[22:14] <KaOSoFt> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus-share/+bug/583921
[22:14] <drizzt_> nimbus, somewhere in your chat app properties
[22:14] <theDEAD> Wish Mozilla would provide .debs
[22:14] <Sereph> what can I do to make the places menu dynamically notice any drives mounted in /mnt
[22:14] <Sereph> theDEAD: dontt hey?
[22:14] <ianwizard> ninjai: no, the full version is free for non-commercial use.  bye
[22:14] <oneNewUser> what app can I use to play .mov files?  I've installed ubuntu-restricted-extras and flashplugin-nonfree
[22:14] <Daekdroom> theDEAD, check the mozilla daily PPA
[22:15] <theDEAD> Sereph not that i know
[22:15] <louish> Hi All,  I'm upgrading from 9.10 to 10.4 and I am having issues. It looks like I'm missing the Current dist meta-release info for the lastest distro.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeProblems
[22:15] <nimbus> I am not seeing it.
[22:15] <zeko> oneNewUser:  hav u tried it using VLC media player
[22:16] <MKM> Njh : google apache-geronimo.., you'll find what your looking for.., its IBM based online wed server management system...!!
[22:16] <Njh> MKM: ok thanks
[22:16] <oneNewUser> zeko: not yet.. totem has always given me grief.. still doing the initial updates after install.. then I'll give vlc a try
[22:16] <nimbus> Font in flash are bad just like in Empathy http://dl.dropbox.com/u/525416/badfontScreenshot.png
[22:16] <banker247_> in terminal - how to open multi word file? ie.  a filed named "open me" without an underscore
[22:17] <nimbus> I am not sure what to do. been like this for a long time.
[22:17] <cliff_> problem with taskbar: it doesnt display almost any programs only the time, vol, mail, user and shutdown... nothin else can any1 help?? ubuntu lucid 64bit
[22:17] <MKM> banker247_ : insert a \ before a blank...
[22:18] <livingdaylight> anyone know whether Wesnoth in Ubuntu's repository is broken?
[22:18] <Striking7> Hey guys - anyone know how to get the notifications for chat, etc to be clickable?
[22:18] <nimbus> livingdaylight, are oyu trying to update OO?
[22:19] <banker247_> MKM so if my file is called phc-linux - writeup
[22:19] <livingdaylight> nimbus: 00?
[22:19] <nimbus> Striking7, that sounds like it would be an enormous effort to do that
[22:19] <nimbus> livingdaylight, open office
[22:19] <livingdaylight> nimbus: just installed Wesnoth but it's not working.
[22:19] <banker247_> i would do gedit phc-linux\-\writeup?
[22:19] <Striking7> As is, when you get a notification they blur when you mouseover them so you can't click them.
[22:19] <Striking7> that's exactly the opposite of what I want
[22:19] <drizzt_> nimbus, are that a problem with this font only?
[22:19] <livingdaylight> nimbus: no, installed Wesnoth (a game)
[22:19] <nimbus> livingdaylight, I have wesnoth but I compiled it from the site
[22:20] <Striking7> nimbus: there isn't a config option, something in gconf for that?
[22:20] <nimbus> drizzt_, yes. this cutesy font has taken over
[22:20] <nimbus> Striking7, deleting gnome files and reseting gnome only provides temporary relief of symptoms it seems. And it never helps the Flash problem.
[22:21] <nimbus> I have even removed all flash.
[22:21] <Striking7> nimbus: I'm not sure we're on the same page. I'm just talking about the chat notifications that pop up in your upper right
[22:21] <vlt> MKM: I copied three more tracks using Rhythmbox. I can play them from the phone with rhythmbox but not with MobileMusicPlayer on the phone
[22:21] <n2diy> my test box is afu. Last night it reported a restart was required, which was a surprise, as I hadn't done any updates. did the restart, and fsck failed. I was told I needed to run fsck manually, in maintance mode, and mount the system read only. Further down, it said I was in maintance mode, read only, so I ran fsck. Had a bunch of errors, but managed to get to the X log in screen. But no joy there, as it wouldn't take my password. So,
[22:21] <n2diy>  I booted into recovery mode, and tried changing my password there, no joy, I wasn't known to the authentication module.So I tried adding user vic, and he didn't get a password, because he isn't known to the auth. module either. Whats going on?
[22:22] <vlt> MKM: Is there a way to completely reset this database?
[22:22] <livingdaylight> nimbus: why did you meniton OO.o ?
[22:22] <Striking7> nimbus: My Flash is behaving great actually (that's a bit of a first :))
[22:22] <MKM> banker247_ : then if want to view that that file you use phc-linux\ -\ writeup.., note the \
[22:22] <nimbus> livingdaylight, I had issues with that last night
[22:22] <nimbus> Striking7, I am glad your Flash is behaving.
[22:22] <Striking7> is nimbus a bot?
[22:23] <Striking7> I think so...
[22:23] <MKM> vlt : you mean the database of the phone...?
[22:23] <livingdaylight> nimbus: I had issues with updates too... complaints. seems to have updated successfully now though
[22:23] <vlt> MKM: Yes
[22:23] <Striking7> Okay, anyone but Nimbus, do you know if there's a way to make notifications clickable?
[22:23] <Striking7> Rather than blurring when you mouseover them?
[22:23] <Striking7> (In the "Indicator" applet)
[22:23] <livingdaylight> nimbus: Wesnoth starts up with the sound all perfectly, but none of the buttons work. I click away to no avail
[22:24] <nimbus> livingdaylight, are you running it in fullscreen mode?
[22:24] <livingdaylight> nimbus: no
[22:24] <nimbus> livingdaylight, try that.
[22:24] <livingdaylight> nimbus: just the way it starts up
[22:24] <David1284> isnt nimbus the flying broomstick from harry potter?
[22:24] <David1284> nimbus 2000 if i remember correctly
[22:25] <David1284> and i most certainly do
[22:25] <Striking7> David1284: Not sure, but I know "Nimbus" is latin for "storm"
[22:25] <nimbus> If you are going to mention my name, please have something helpful about my font problem. I am not a bot and I do not care that YOUR flash installtion works perfectly
[22:25] <Striking7> Never read harry potter though
[22:25] <bancoecia> oi alguem pode me ajudar com o ubunto sera que me solucionar arquivos em abertos
[22:25] <trism> Striking7: I believe that functionality isn't present in notify-osd, but I think it is part of notification-daemon if you wanted to investigate that instead
[22:25] <ivo_> drizzt_
[22:25] <acerimmer_> !es|bancoecia
[22:25] <Striking7> trism: awesome - I'll look into that.
[22:25] <ivo_> 10x for the advice
[22:26] <ivo_> everything is running better without compiz
[22:26] <Striking7> nimbus - odd, because you're the one that brought up Flash in the first place.
[22:26] <Nonesthecool> anyone familiar with gnome crashing?
[22:26] <Striking7> nimubs - I never even mentioned it.
[22:26] <MKM> vlt : ya you can try http://wiki.control-d.com/index.php?title=IPhone_1.1.4_and_Ubuntu_Linux.., if not the ubuntu community https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[22:26] <nimbus> Striking7, I do not care that your Flash works perfectly. It does not help me.
[22:26] <chadi> wget and  update manager freeze for <insert random time here> where download rate drops to unknown, and pinging from a windows machine yields a time out. What the hell is wrong with my wireless drivers? iwlagn
[22:26] <bancoecia> como faço para ir no canal #vivaolinux
[22:27] <Nonesthecool> anyone familiar with gnome crashing?
[22:27] <Pirate_Hunter> in vim/vi how do I go about doing search and replace of a word I want it to find foo and replace it with foobar?
[22:27] <vlt> MKM: On iPhone 1.1.4 there was a different database format used
[22:27] <trism> Pirate_Hunter: :%s/foo/foobar/g
[22:27] <trism> Pirate_Hunter: that is for all instances of foo in the whole document
[22:27] <ZykoticK9> Pirate_Hunter, http://www.felixgers.de/teaching/emacs/vi_search_replace.html
[22:28] <zeko> Striking7: Maybe Mr.Shuttleworth didnt want the notifications clickable http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/253
[22:28] <Pirate_Hunter> trism, ZykoticK9, thanks
[22:28] <ZykoticK9> trism, are you sure about that % or was that a typo?
[22:28] <banker247_> should i mirror my linux install onto another partition so that i may recover it later - is this possible?
[22:29] <Striking7> zeko - I can respect that, but I DO want them clickable :-p
[22:29] <banker247_> like if i save the current state of my linux now.. then mess something up later - can i just boot the copy?
[22:29] <trism> ZykoticK9: yes, before the s you need to specify the region of the document to search, or it will only do the current line
[22:29] <Striking7> zeko - I don't mind going through a little trouble to make it happen. That's what happens when I want something different - I totally understand
[22:29] <trism> ZykoticK9: % is for the whole document
[22:29] <ZykoticK9> trism, cool thanks
[22:29] <MKM> vlt : try out the other link.., the ubuntu form.., your problem about firewire is also given.., follow it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[22:29] <aganice> hey, does anyone know how to release software to the multiverse repository?
[22:30] <vlt> MKM: Yes, that's where I copied "Please see the section above on setting the Firewire GUID" from. What section above does it refer to?
[22:30] <lzantal> I installed 2 more HDD to my ubuntu 10.04 box. Can I turn it into a raid5 without reinstalling  ubuntu?
[22:31] <vlt> lzantal: Yes, that's easy
[22:31] <Gryllida> lzantal: I think you can't change the file system without a reinstall
[22:31] <stabin> Hi, tried to use .pam_environment to add custom directory to PATH - but when I write there something like PATH=$HOME/opt/bin:$PATH - variables I used in PATH definition here are not getting expanded, which results in broken PATH. Is it supposed to expand environment variables? Ubuntu 10.04. Any ideas how can I get PATH updated so that when I press Alt-F2 I could type there command which should be found in new PATH?
[22:32] <vlt> lzantal: You can
[22:32] <Docteh> Gryllida: you can shuffle things over from a livecd
[22:32] <g0st> chalcedony, you there?
[22:32] <lzantal> vlt: that's sounds great. Could you point me to a how to?
[22:33] <Nonesthecool> anyone familiar with gnome crashing?
[22:33] <LouisJB>  installing sun-jdk on latest ubuntu, it should work?
[22:33] <MKM> vlt : I think its this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirewireGuid
[22:33] <lzantal> Docteh: So I need to do it from the live cd?
[22:33] <cliff_> problem on ubuntu lucid64bit: no system tray visible can some1 please help?  other (normal apps are there like time,volume,etc just not any apps I run)
[22:33] <BiggFREE> Hi
[22:34] <MKM> LouisJB : try ecplipse..!
[22:34] <vlt> lzantal: Don't know one.  But it's easy: `mdadm create /dev/md0 -l5 -n2 <your_new_devices>`.
[22:34] <LouisJB> MKM: ecplipse?
[22:35] <vlt> MKM: What do you think this is?
[22:35] <Daekdroom> vlt, isn't that going to make him lose all of his current data?
[22:35] <Pirate_Hunter> trism, thanks again that has saved me a lot of time whoop whoop
[22:35] <lzantal> vlt: so I don't need to format the array? That's the part throw me off
[22:36] <banker247_> anyone know a good OCR program?
[22:36] <vlt> Daekdroom, lzantal: No, "<new_devices>" should be empty right now.
[22:36] <lzantal> vlt: yes they are and I created the smae partition on them as I have on my sda
[22:36] <vlt> lzantal: The command I wrote creates a new raid5 device
[22:37] <lzantal> vlt: awesome, Thank you. I'll go and try it:)
[22:37] <vlt> lzantal: Where did you create them?
[22:37] <MKM> LouisJB : its a much better jdk..!!
[22:38] <lzantal> vlt: One more thing, Can I do it from the installed system or do I need to boot into the live cd?
[22:38] <Docteh> lzantal: depends if you're moving / or not
[22:38] <vlt> lzantal: You can create a raid device anytime
[22:38] <vlt> lzantal: What do want to do with that raid device later?
[22:39] <lzantal> vlt: I used gparted to partition the other two drives.
[22:40] <lzantal> vlt: for data protection. I am going to copy a lot of family images and videos
[22:40] <vlt> lzantal: You can partition it first to avoid the devices being messed up by any other OS later. The partition type for raid memebres id "fd"
[22:41] <bastidrazor> !panels | cliff_
[22:41] <MKM> vlt : the link gives the details about the firewire.., seems like you need to create it..!!
[22:41] <vlt> MKM: ?
[22:42] <LouisJB> MKM: better? I need sun-jdk anyway
[22:42] <vlt> MKM: What do I have to create? The FireWire Howto?
[22:42] <mfpcokets> anyone have any ideas to play x264 on an acer aspire one netbook ?  XP can handle it with core AVC but i cannot find a ubuntu equivalent
[22:42] <Kamilion> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_lucid-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages
[22:42] <Kamilion> gah
[22:42] <Kamilion> Anyone seen this before? Fresh 32bit lucid server vm: E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_lucid-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages
[22:43] <cliff_> ubottu - now that there gone, how do i restart the panels?
[22:43] <lzantal> vlt: would it matter that my first disk does not have that id? since I installed it to ext4
[22:43] <vlt> lzantal: For storing files on a device you need to create a file system ("ext4" for example) on it.
[22:43] <Kamilion> wiped out /var/lib/apt/lists/* and remade partial, same problem again.
[22:43] <wast3lanD> so is there a way to make my ubuntu server box a network drive at my house, such that i can actively store/watch/use stuff from it?
[22:43] <bastidrazor> cliff_: they should restart on their own
[22:43] <Oer> !resetpanels
[22:43] <wast3lanD> no matter if im at home or somewhere else
[22:43] <MKM> its just a suggestion.., yo sun-jdk should run in ubuntu.., its oracle-jdk actually.!!
[22:43] <vlt> lzantal: How is your first disk related here?
[22:44] <MKM> LouisJB :its just a suggestion.., yo sun-jdk should run in ubuntu.., its oracle-jdk actually.!!
[22:44] <Kamilion> wast3lanD: The first part, yes. Samba will do that. the second part? No, samba will not do that. (Remotely)
 no they just shut down with the command, they arent restarting...
[22:44] <vlt> lzantal: ext4 is a file system. File systems reside on block devices (like disks, partitions, raid devices or lvm volumes)
[22:44] <bastidrazor> cliff_: gnome-panel
[22:44] <LouisJB> there's nothing called oracle-jdk in the repository
[22:45] <jpds> LouisJB: Yeah.
[22:45] <lzantal> vlt: thats the one has ubuntu on it. I only got 2 more hdd and I need at least 3 for raid5, so I need to include it in the raid array
[22:45] <mfpcokets> anyone have any ideas to play x264 on an acer aspire one netbook ?  XP can handle it with core AVC but i cannot find a ubuntu equivalent.   No one?  I have like 100gb of documentaries i can no longer watch since moving to linux
[22:46] <lzantal> vlt: seems like I may have to reinstall ubuntu after setting up the raid partitions properly.
[22:46] <vlt> lzantal: Ok. No problem.
[22:46] <Kamilion> mfpcokets: take a look at vdpau
[22:46] <vlt> lzantal: No
[22:46] <LouisJB> it's odd, I installed sun-jdk the other week on an uptodate ubuntu installation, now I try the same on one installed today (very latest) and it won;t install due to dependencies that can't be installed
[22:46] <Oer> !H.264
 ok now the panels are back to defaults but i still dont have a system tray or notification area where it shows my other background apps like dropbox, or net manager,etc
[22:47] <mfpcokets> Kamilion: sorry that went over my head.  Linux newb here.  vdpau in terminal, google?  take a look wherE?
[22:47] <Kamilion> mfpcokets: Then vdpau's not gonna be fun for you.
[22:47] <vlt> lzantal: Just create the raid with 2 and a missing disk, then create your file system(s), copy all data over, reboot from the new device and finally add the first disk to the array
[22:47] <mfpcokets> Kamilion: LOL
[22:48] <mfpcokets> Kamilion: Im pretty tech savy, i guess i can do some reading.  Is it a program ?
[22:48] <Kamilion> mfpcokets: It's nvidia's video acceleration shim -- mplayer and some other stuff can use it.
[22:48] <mfpcokets> Kamilion: ok i guess ill do some reading.
[22:48] <vlt> lzantal: For this setup I'd recommend two fd partitions on each disk. Create a raid1 array of /dev/sd{b,c}1 and a raid5 of sd{b,c}2
[22:49] <Kamilion> mfpcokets: I dunno any further as I use radeon HD IGPs (780G) without issue.
[22:49] <vlt> lzantal: Booting from a raid1 is easier because one member of a raid1 is usuable standalone
[22:49] <lzantal> vlt: that's sounds doable, Do I need to have a separate /boot
[22:49] <lzantal> vlt: lol thats was my question:)
[22:50] <vlt> lzantal: The boot partition will be separate once you use the new device, yes.
[22:50] <Kamilion> mfpcokets: might try some of this stuff
[22:50] <Kamilion> http://www.splitted-desktop.com/~gbeauchesne/mplayer-vaapi/
[22:50] <lzantal> vlt: got it
[22:50] <vlt> lzantal: That's because your boo loader needs to be able to read from it before it can bootstrap the raid aware kernel
[22:50] <vlt> *boot loader
[22:51] <iceroot> what is the keycombo to look the screen?
[22:52] <vlt> lzantal: The usuable size for raid1 is that of the smallest device (device = partition here) and for raid5 n-1 * smallest device
[22:52] <Kamilion> Dunno how to lock the screen with a hotkey. Would like to know also; too used to Super+L on other systems.
[22:52] <vlt> lzantal: What sizes are your disks
[22:52] <vlt> ?
[22:53] <lzantal> vlt: awesome. 500GB
[22:53] <VCoolio> iceroot: ctrl+alt+l  or is that my custom setting?
[22:54] <Cisco_Tech> Hello All
[22:54] <froggyman> hello
[22:54] <iceroot> VCoolio: great, thank you
[22:54] <vlt> lzantal: I'd recommend 128 or 256 MB for partiton 1 and the rest for partition 2 on each of the disks.
[22:55] <ZenMasta> I get a Segmentation faulty tree 50% when I use aptitude/apt-get (10.04) any ideas how to fix this?
[22:55] <vlt> lzantal: Then `mdadm --create /dev/md0 -l1 -n2 /dev/sd[bc]1` (assuming your new disks are sdb and sdc)
[22:56] <vlt> lzantal: `mdadm --create /dev/md1 -l5 -n2 /dev/sd[bc]2`
[22:56] <drizzt_> banker247_, for free? none
[22:56] <Cisco_Tech> Just a quick question | I just installed 10.04 with a direct connect to the internet - but when i go wireless no internet - ??
[22:57] <daedaluz> how can I setup which medias and partitions to show in nautilus?
[22:57] <Cisco_Tech> any idea how to fix this ..
[22:58] <lzantal> vlt: great, Thank you. I am creating the partitions right now
[22:58] <vlt> lzantal: If you want to use more than one file system (maybe for swap or separate /home) I'd recommend using LVM, which is very easy too)
[22:59] <lzantal> vlt: thanks for your help. I am happy with one file system right now
[22:59] <jvai> i just upgraded to 10.4 from 8.04... nautilus doesn't allow the right- click option to copy disk as file image =ISO  any longer.. what happened?
[23:00] <jesus_> hi, excuse me, but do you know the wine irc channel? i have some problems with wine
[23:00] <bastidrazor> jesus_: #winehq
[23:01] <jesus_> ok thank you
[23:01] <vlt> lzantal: No swap?
[23:01] <lost> anyone got hibernate problem with kernel 2.6.32 ?
[23:01] <daedaluz> jvai: missing packages, search for iso mount in synaptic
[23:01] <vlt> lzantal: (depends on amount of RAM and memory usually used by your programms)
[23:02] <m1ck3y> Hello all, what is the best way to install ubuntu 10.4 on a system already running slackware with LILO?
[23:02] <vlt> lzantal: And suspend-to-disk needs a swap partition too
[23:02] <thune3> lost: are you same lost with dm-crypt problem, did you solve it?
[23:02] <n2diy> my test box is afu. Last night it reported a restart was required, which was a surprise, as I hadn't done any updates. did the restart, and fsck failed. I was told I needed to run fsck manually, in maintance mode, and mount the system read only. Further down, it said I was in maintance mode, read only, so I ran fsck. Had a bunch of errors, but managed to get to the X log in screen. But no joy there, as it wouldn't take my password. So,
[23:02] <n2diy>  I booted into recovery mode, and tried changing my password there, no joy, I wasn't known to the authentication module.So I tried adding user vic, and he didn't get a password, because he isn't known to the auth. module either. Whats going on?
[23:02] <banker247_> how do i find out a terminal command which program is linked to and where that program is?
[23:02] <lost> thune3: i have sent apport report lately
[23:03] <jvai> aaah, thank you so much daedaluz... i'm playing around with 10.04 now.. would "sudo apt-get install iso mount" do in the terminal?
[23:03] <daedaluz> jvai: no, just use those as search terms
[23:03] <thune3> lost: sry
[23:03] <jvai> ok thanks dae
[23:04] <lost> thune3: as suggested i will try kernel 6.34
[23:04] <lzantal> vlt: no swap. got 8gig ram, and it will be my desktop and file server
[23:04] <LedHed> anyone here know of a good tutorial for making a custom plymouth Boot Splash?
[23:05] <mikubuntu> can anybody tell me how to remotely access my sister's computer to perform updates, etc ?
[23:05] <LedHed> mikubuntu, SSH
[23:05] <jvai> gisomount.. for gnome
[23:05] <vlt> lzantal: Ok, then you can create an ext2 partition on /dev/md0 and ext4 on /dev/md1
[23:06] <mikubuntu> LedHed: I tried using the remote viewer, and it seemed to connect to something (her ip address) but no gui, just looked like a terminal window
[23:06] <vlt> lzantal: Then mount /dev/md1 to /mnt and simply `rsync -ax / /mnt/` to copy all your stuff to the new raid5 device.
[23:07] <LedHed> mikubuntu, exactly
[23:07] <carl-m_> will apt-get dist-upgrade get me from 9.04 to 10.04 ?
[23:07] <LedHed> thats all you need to perform updates
[23:07] <lost> anyone has a script file to change mac addy upon boot ?
[23:07] <LedHed> carl-m_, yes
[23:07] <pr0ph3t> hi all
[23:07] <VCoolio> carl-m_: no, do-release-upgrade
[23:08] <lzantal> vlt: you are reading my mind:):) I was just going to ask that.
[23:08] <carl-m_> VCoolio: that does not seem to go to 10.04, only to 9.10
[23:08] <abou_7anash_009>  hi if I have a html form and action points to https on another server, will the post data get encrypted before transmittion ?
[23:08] <carl-m_> lost: ifconfig should do that
[23:08] <LedHed> lost, MAC addresses are hard coded to the adapter unless you mean you want to spoof your MAC
[23:08] <VCoolio> carl-m_: ah, yes, what you want is not possible
[23:08] <vlt> lzantal: I've done that just too often ;-)
[23:08] <pr0ph3t> I have a problem with automount for usb drives, it doesn't work anymore, I can mount the drives with sudo mount but otherwise they don't work
[23:08] <VCoolio> carl-m_: you can only jump from LTS to LTS version, else one at a time
[23:08] <carl-m_>  VCoolio: of course it is possible. at worst I should need to edit sources.list and do a dist-upgrade
[23:08] <n2diy> my test box is afu. Last night it reported a restart was required, which was a surprise, as I hadn't done any updates. did the restart, and fsck failed. I was told I needed to run fsck manually, in maintance mode, and mount the system read only. Further down, it said I was in maintance mode, read only, so I ran fsck. Had a bunch of errors, but managed to get to the X log in screen. But no joy there, as it wouldn't take my password. So,
[23:08] <n2diy>  I booted into recovery mode, and tried changing my password there, no joy, I wasn't known to the authentication module.So I tried adding user vic, and he didn't get a password, because he isn't known to the auth. module either. Whats going on?
[23:09] <WXZ> why do some folders and files have a "lock" on them?
[23:09] <pr0ph3t> I run ubuntu lucid 64 bit with gnome and compiz
[23:09] <lost> Led: yes to spoof. what do you have
[23:09] <WXZ> and how can I get rid of them
[23:09] <LedHed> lost, I dont have a script for that,  I usually do it from a perimeter device
[23:09] <paissad> guys, which application do you use in order to have statistiques (ip adresses, coutries , cities, upload, donwload ...) related to your servers ?
[23:10] <paissad> what do you advice|suggest me ?
[23:10] <lost> Led: doing it by hand?
[23:10] <paissad> statistics*
[23:10] <LedHed> lost, you could put a script in rc.local
[23:11] <lost> Led: can you suggest a script builder btw
[23:11] <vlt> lzantal: Then I'd do the following: Add a LABEL to your new fs: `tune2fs -L ROOT_ON_RAID /dev/md1` for example. Then edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg on the old disk and edit the root= line to root=LABEL=ROOT_ON_RAID
[23:12] <carl-m_> VCoolio: I am not managing to find any documentation on _why_ exactly there should be any problem with a dist-upgrade directly to 10.04 - and I've been looking
[23:12] <carl-m_> do you know what the concern is?
[23:12] <Cisco_Tech> any help with ndiswrapper ??
[23:12] <LedHed> lost, its a simple process,  take the interface down,  then run ipconfig eth# hw ether 00:11:22:33:44:55
[23:12] <LedHed> then bring the interface back up
[23:12] <lanoxx> i have many files in a directory mounted with samba that contain questionmarks
[23:12] <lanoxx> the directory is from a windows host
[23:13] <lanoxx> how can i make gnome-terminal to show the correct characters, i already tried to set gnome-terminal to a different encoding but it didnt work
[23:13] <banker247_> ls
[23:13] <|Schmitty|> .
[23:13] <lost> LedHed: pretty simple but to automate the process
[23:13] <VCoolio> carl-m_: actually, no, I only have this for you
[23:13] <VCoolio> !upgrade | carl-m_
[23:14] <carl-m_> lost: you put it in /etc/rc2.d
[23:14] <carl-m_> and put it before the network load
[23:14] <LedHed> lost, OMG man,  I put 3 words into google and got TONS of info.  My god man, Read!
[23:14] <carl-m_> perhaps in rcS.d if the network load is there
[23:14] <nUboon2Age> Cisco_Tech: ndiswrapper help?  What are you needing?
[23:14] <NewWave> Hello, ladies ang gentlemans! I need some aid to configure a net for me
[23:14] <NewWave> I understand almost nothing about it
[23:14] <NewWave> :(
[23:15] <LedHed> lost,  http://www.google.com/search?q=linux+change+MAC+at+boot&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[23:15] <NewWave> p2p
[23:15] <carl-m_> lost: you can also set it in /etc/network/interfaces, if you use that to set your IP
[23:15] <NewWave> anybody can help me?
[23:15] <Cisco_Tech> Help installing -- it tells me i have internet connect but no connect ?
[23:15] <NewWave> ubuntu-ubuntu, by wireless router
[23:15] <lanoxx> i wonder if this is a problem of gnome-terminal or because i mounted it with wrong settings
[23:16] <nyyyppa> yeah, me too. fuck vittu. Cisco_Tech same problem
[23:16] <Cisco_Tech> I have original wireless driver but no sys file ..
[23:16] <IdleOne> !language | nyyyppa
[23:16] <Kamilion> !language | nyyyppa
[23:16] <nUboon2Age> Cisco_Tech: where does it 'tell you have internet connect'?  like where is it saying that?
[23:17] <outrun__> sex
[23:17] <IdleOne> outrun__: stop please
[23:17] <Cisco_Tech> to right hand corner as soon as system boots
[23:17] <lost> carl-m: i am not familiar enough to make mod
[23:17] <IdleOne> stay on topic
[23:17] <nyyyppa> is somebody finnish that could help me with network settings ?
[23:17] <carl-m_> lost: I think you can even edit the MAC address directly in the network applet
[23:17] <carl-m_> the one at the top right of the screen
[23:17] <Cisco_Tech> yes..
[23:18] <nUboon2Age> Cisco_Tech: and do you have a wired ethernet connection?
[23:18] <lost> carl-m: no but it could help if it was the case
[23:18] <Cisco_Tech> is says yes -- but no connection
[23:18] <carl-m_> lost: I see a field for it in my control panel
[23:18] <lzantal> vlt: what will that do? Add an entry to grub menu?
[23:18] <erUSUL> !fi
[23:19] <lost> wait gonna check myself
[23:19] <xylander> #ubuntu.pl
[23:19] <Juniksz> Hello! I've set left-handed mouse in X. And a few games this settings areignored. How can I set left-handed mouse in every game/application?
[23:19] <nUboon2Age> Cisco_Tech: does the computer have an ethernet cable connection to the internet?
[23:19] <mechdave> carl-m_, lost, You can use ifconfig to change MAC, although I can't see why you would bother unless you manage a large network
[23:20] <carl-m_> mechdave: I already told him about ifconfig :)
[23:20] <Cisco_Tech> not right now .. trying to go wireless - hard wire works fine
[23:20] <monkey123> +
[23:20] <carl-m_> mechdave: I also pointed out /etc/interfaces
[23:20] <banker247_> is it possible to image my partition onto a flash driver and boot it from any computer?
[23:21] <mechdave> carl-m_, lost, :) no worries, usually I find it the easiest, the gui apps tend to be a little light on features like that
[23:21] <lost> carl-m: i cant see it. whats name is called
[23:21] <rafaelsoaresbr> hello, I'm mounting an local repository with apt-mirror. how to burn it to DVD images?
[23:21] <mechdave> carl-m_, yeah, I think that is the only way to make a persistent change
[23:22] <vlt> lzantal: grub loads your kernel from sda1. It will do that later too, but you need to tell the kernel where its root fs is. Now it's /dev/sda1 but it needs to be /dev/md1. In case it is recognized as something different the label comes handy.
[23:22] <Juniksz> Hello! I've set left-handed mouse in X. And a few games this settings areignored. How can I set left-handed mouse in every game/application?
[23:22] <NewWave> Ok! I will repeat! First, sorry my english. That's no very good. I need some aid to create an network. I need to make a backup. My files are in my notebook, and I need to transfer this files to my dad's notebook. Both are linux (ubuntu and kubuntu). But I understand nothing about networks! Can anybody help me? I want to format my machine and install the new ubuntu! Thanks for aid!
[23:22] <Sam_Fisher> I HATE Nvidia drivers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[23:23] <nUboon2Age> Cisco_Tech: can we go to private chat, the amount of activity right now here is too much for me.
[23:23] <Cisco_Tech> sure tell me how :)
[23:23] <nUboon2Age> Cisco_Tech: I'm attempting to query you now...
[23:23] <UpMarc> Can someone help me to install Ubuntu under VMware?
[23:24] <Cisco_Tech> ok..
[23:24] <mechdave> Cisco_Tech, type /msg <nick of person to private chat with>
[23:24] <NewWave> Ok! I will repeat! First, sorry my english. That's no very good. I need some aid to create an network with wireless router. I need to make a backup. My files are in my notebook, and I need to transfer this files to my dad's notebook. Both are linux (ubuntu and kubuntu). But I understand nothing about networks! Can anybody help me? I want to format my machine and install the new ubuntu! Thanks for
[23:24] <leandroal> what is the best ipod tool to access ipod content available for ubuntu?
[23:25] <mechdave> NewWave, how far have you got?
[23:25] <nUboon2Age> mechdave: thanks, I didn't know how to tell him to do it.
[23:25] <InnerFIRE_> im done with ubuntu. going back to windows. my sound hasnt worked since feisty and ubuntu developers havent even addressed the problem.
[23:25] <mechdave> nUboon2Age, no worries :)
[23:26] <mechdave> NewWave, can you tell me which Ubuntu you are using?
[23:26] <UpMarc> can someone help me to install Ubuntu in a virtual machine (VMware)?
[23:27] <UpMarc> when I try to install, it shows a black prompt ubuntu screen and I don't know how to get the desktop
[23:27] <NewWave> mechdave: I'm using Kubuntu 10.04 and Ubuntu 10.04
[23:27] <Sam_Fisher> I installed reinstalled Nvidia driver and now when I sudo nvidia-settings it tells me I am not using Xdriver
[23:27] <mechdave> NewWave, Right, now when you plug in your wifi card what happens?
[23:27] <acerimmer_> !vmware|upmarc
[23:29] <Sam_Fisher> anyone want to help with Nvidia driver setup?
[23:29] <lanoxx> does anyone have an idea why '??bergang.avi': No such file or directory
[23:29] <lanoxx> why i get these strange questionmarks
[23:30] <iceroot> lanoxx: because the shell cant display Ü
[23:30] <pure|hate> lanoxx, that means your terminal is not seeing ceratin chars
[23:30] <Sam_Fisher> lanoxx, I would imagine hidden characters
[23:30] <iceroot> lanoxx: sounds like the german ue
[23:30] <NewWave> mechdave: well, both the machines are connected on the same wireless router
[23:30] <lanoxx> iceroot, i use gnome-terminal its set to utf-8 the file is from a cifs mount
[23:30] <pure|hate> You can add support for that to most terminals
[23:31] <lanoxx> ists a german ue
[23:31] <Gryllida> Which non-Firefox browser with JS can I install?
[23:31] <mechdave> NewWave, so the wireless network cards have associated with the router?
[23:31] <NewWave> and are connected on internet
[23:31] <NewWave> nomally
[23:31] <iceroot> Gryllida: konqueror, chrome, opera  there are so many
[23:31] <NewWave> whitout troubles
[23:31] <lanoxx> pure|hate, so how do i make it see these characters?
[23:31] <Gryllida> iceroot: I want an open source one
[23:31] <shadeslayer> hi i cant seem to use pastebinit with gist.github,even though its supported
[23:31] <mechdave> NewWave, and the computers can ping each other?
[23:31] <NewWave> Yep!
[23:31] <Gryllida> iceroot: like Lynx but with JS
[23:32] <NewWave> I will check
[23:32] <iceroot> Gryllida: w3m has js
[23:32] <Daekdroom> Gryllida, Chromium, Konqueror, Empathy
[23:32] <Gryllida> iceroot: ok
[23:32] <NewWave> just a moment, please
[23:32] <iceroot> Gryllida: and links2 also if i am correct
[23:32] <Gryllida> <Daekdroom: I want an open source one
[23:32] <Daekdroom> Gryllida, Exactly.
[23:32] <iceroot> Gryllida: also iceweasel if you dont like the name firefox
[23:32] <entropysz> svn co https://synce.svn.sourceforge.net/svcroot/synce/trunk/usb-rndis-lite
[23:32] <pure|hate> lanoxx, Most likely its a config option or a extra package to add support
[23:32] <entropysz> errr. wrong terminal :P
[23:32] <pure|hate> failbus
[23:32] <shadeslayer> entropysz: :P
[23:32] <Daekdroom> Gryllida, Empathy and Konqueror are Gnome's and KDE's respectively.
[23:33] <Daekdroom> Oops
[23:33] <Gryllida> iceroot: bah it says w3m already installed, where do I find it?
[23:33] <Daekdroom> Epiphany, not empathy
[23:33] <Daekdroom> Damn name similatiries
[23:33] <lanoxx> pure|hate, im on ubuntu, can u tell me which package it could be?
[23:33] <iceroot> Gryllida: its a shell-browser like lynx
[23:33] <lzantal> vlt: great, thank you. learned a lot:):)
[23:33] <NewWave> Yes, too!! The PCs pings each other!
[23:33] <NewWave> :D
[23:33] <iceroot> Gryllida: w3m url
[23:33] <JoseBravo> Hello
[23:33] <JoseBravo> I want to resize a ext3 partition. I googled and I found people have to convert the partition to ext2 and then do the resize. But all information that I found is very old. Is still necessary convert to ext2. Or can I just use the command resize on parted in the unmounted partition?
[23:33] <IdleOne> !gparted | JoseBravo
[23:34] <pure|hate> lanoxx, I have no clue, I have never had a need to see any German U. I am certain you are not the first person to have the problem. I bet there is some documentation
[23:34] <lanoxx> pure|hate, or could it be because of the way i mounted it, i read something about a iocharset option for mount, but im not sure how that works
[23:34] <mechdave> NewWave, ok now what do you want to do? You can set up samba for files haring, probably be the easiest
[23:34] <entropysz> Having an issue with make with usb-rndis-lite for ICS - anybody mind helping out?
[23:34] <iceroot> JoseBravo: you can just resize but make a backup
[23:34] <Kamilion> JoseBravo: http://www.partedmagic.com/
[23:34] <olskolirc> hey does linux have anything were we can put in the ip address and it traces the location on a visual map?
[23:34] <Gryllida> iceroot: w3m - is it with HTPPS support?
[23:34] <olskolirc> you know google earth used to do this
[23:34] <iceroot> Gryllida: yes
[23:34] <Gryllida> iceroot: w3m URL_HERE wont' do anything
[23:34] <Gryllida> iceroot: just no output
[23:34] <Gryllida> iceroot: in Terminal
[23:35] <silverdrake11> help! Can someone help me find my Ubuntu One folder?
[23:35] <bastidrazor> NewWave: Places > Connect to Server then use service type = SSH  .. create a Bookmark and it will be available in the Places menu
[23:35] <iceroot> Gryllida: hm, strange
[23:35] <entropysz> http://pastebin.org/319798 - Having a make issue default error 2 (heres my terminal log)
[23:35] <NewWave> Samba? Samba is not for windows?
[23:35] <shadeslayer> silverdrake11: home/Ubuntu\One/ ?
[23:35] <iceroot> !samba | NewWave
[23:35] <mechdave> NewWave, yes samba is the windows sharing tool, but you can use it on Linux as well :)
[23:36] <silverdrake11> shadeslayer, I don
[23:36] <silverdrake11> shadeslayer, I don
[23:36] <fowlduck> hey all, i'm looking to compile mplayer with win32codecs on 64-bit arch, anyone have protips concerning this? my google-fu fails me and my current attempts have failed (got it to build as 32-bit but it won't use the codecs, it seems)
[23:36] <shadeslayer> silverdrake11: open nautilus and there will be folder called Ubuntu One there :P
[23:36] <NewWave> ah!
[23:36] <iceroot> fowlduck: why not usinf w64codecs?
[23:36] <silverdrake11> shadeslayer, i dont see it there. Has it moved in Lucid?
[23:36] <NewWave> Samba is the best solution for my problem?
[23:36] <fowlduck> iceroot: that can't do everything that w32codecs can do, last i checked
[23:37] <shadeslayer> silverdrake11: mine is located there only,its there by default :P
[23:37] <silverdrake11> shadeslayer, ok nvm, there it is
[23:37] <shadeslayer> silverdrake11: hehe
[23:37] <fowlduck> iceroot: and it's necessary in my case to do everything :)
[23:37] <silverdrake11> shadeslayer, thanks for the help
 it's very hard when 1 doesn't know neither the VMware nor Ubuntu installation :-(
[23:37] <shadeslayer> silverdrake11: np
[23:37] <mechdave> NewWave, samba is easy to set up and run.
[23:37] <NewWave> The more easiest?
[23:37] <NewWave> ok!
[23:37] <pure|hate> fowlduck, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4891266&postcount=5
[23:37] <ratonn> the most
[23:37] <NewWave> Well...
[23:37] <NewWave> And now?
[23:37] <rafaelsoaresbr> what's firewall front-end do you recomend to me? a most complete front-end...
[23:37] <fowlduck> pure|hate: that's what i used, actually, and afaict it's not decoding them properly
[23:38] <NewWave> Where I get a good tutorial about?
[23:38] <acerimmer_> upmarc: bot suggest you use virtualbox unless you are locked in to vmware...
[23:38] <mechdave> NewWave, just right click on the directory you want to share and click on sharing options
[23:38] <pure|hate> fowlduck, ok
[23:38] <iceroot> !firewall |  rafaelsoaresbr
[23:38] <IdleOne> NewWave: look at the links ubottu gave you
 and what is "virtualbox"?
[23:38] <mechdave> NewWave, can you type my nick first otherwise I may miss your message
[23:39] <Gryllida> iceroot: I need a browser which supports both JS and iframes, but not Firefox; does dillo support them?
[23:39] <acerimmer_> !virtualbox>upmarc
[23:39] <iceroot> Gryllida: dont know it, just test some browser we told you
[23:39] <acerimmer_> UpMarc: virtualbox is virtualization software very similar to vmware
[23:39] <MagicJ> I want to not open a file until it has been closed by the creator of the file.  How do I determine whether a file is open elsewhere?
[23:39] <acerimmer_> vbox is in the ubuntu repository stream - vmware is not
[23:39] <NewWave> mechdave: Sorry!!
[23:40] <NewWave> mechdave: :( Will not happens again!
[23:40] <Gryllida> iceroot: I'm trying seamonkey
[23:40] <ohir> MagicJ: man fuser
[23:40] <MagicJ> ty - will have a look - brb if more questions
[23:40] <mechdave> NewWave, no worries, it is not a big thing, just easier for me to help you out to get success :)
[23:40] <NewWave> mechdave: well, but I shared the destiny folder
[23:41] <NewWave> mechdave:  let me see if the samba is installed on my computer...
[23:41] <drizzt_> do universe repos ever get updates?
[23:41] <mechdave> NewWave, ok now share the source directory as well, you only need to share the source directory to make it work
[23:41] <iceroot> drizzt_: updates, yes, upgrade, no
[23:41] <NewWave> Yes! It is here.
[23:41] <mechdave> NewWave, if samba is not installed it will ask you to install it
[23:42] <NewWave> The source!?!?!?!
[23:42] <NewWave> mechdave: the source?!?!??!
[23:42] <NewWave> hehehhe
[23:42] <mechdave> NewWave, yeah, the directory with the the files in it to copy to the other computer
[23:42] <NewWave> mechdave: I found that the destiny
[23:43] <entropysz> sudo apt-get install kernel-source
[23:43] <entropysz> durp
[23:43] <entropysz> damnit!
[23:43] <drizzt_> so if there is foobar 0.3.1 it will never become 0.7 unless next distro release??
[23:43] <mechdave> NewWave, Ok now go to Places-->Network
[23:43] <iceroot> drizzt_: no
[23:44] <NewWave> mechdave: just a moment, please!
[23:44] <NewWave> :)
[23:44] <iceroot> drizzt_: doenst matter which repo you are using (main, non-free and so on) you will never get a major update within a ubuntu-release
[23:44] <mechdave> NewWave, that should create a connection to the other computer and just navigate to the files you want to copy
[23:44] <jabagawee> hi there, i have a dell mini preinstalled with ubuntu. how can i get into grub with this laptop?
[23:44] <iceroot> !backports | drizzt_
[23:44] <mechdave> NewWave, It may take a few seconds to connect
[23:45] <acerimmer_> jabagawee: what are you trying to accomplish
[23:46] <jabagawee> i need to boot into recovery mode, but i can't seem to access grub
[23:46] <acerimmer_> jabagawee: during boot hit <esc> and that will usually drop you to the grub prompt
[23:47] <jabagawee> acerimmer_: alright, though i was hoping for some people who might have experience with the dell
[23:47] <mechdave> jabagawee, what dell do you have?
[23:47] <acerimmer_> jabagawee: grub is grub.
[23:47] <jabagawee> the dell mini
[23:47] <MagicJ> ohir - I am dumb I suspect - I opened a file with vi, on one terminal and then did fuser fileName and expected to see the status 'f' - did not - what am I missing here?
[23:47] <mechdave> acerimmer_, but they are different if they have a splash screen
[23:48] <mechdave> jabagawee, mini 10? or 10v?
[23:48] <acerimmer_> mechdave: grub - is NOT grub?
[23:48] <mechdave> acerimmer_, Yeah, but different manufacturers hide the boot menu different ways
[23:48] <jabagawee> mechdave: mini 10
[23:49] <silverdrake11> Can someone help me get Rhythmbox working. Nothing I click on the indicator applet works, so I can't get it to show up on my desktop.
[23:49] <acerimmer_> mechdave: deferring to your wisdom...
[23:49] <mechdave> acerimmer_, huh?
[23:50] <Berxwedan> are there any good native linux games?
[23:50] <realubot> How do I give a ip address permission to view a subdirectory when I use order allow,deny deny from all at the main direcroty like /var/www/site?
[23:50] <jabagawee> mechdave, actually, mini 10n
[23:50] <edbian> Berxwedan, Yes
[23:50] <mechdave> jabagawee, ok can it still boot into linux?
[23:50] <iceroot> Berxwedan: quake1+2+3, doom 1+2+3, ut 99, ut 2000+2003
[23:50] <WesTCB> ello all
[23:50] <ohir> MagicJ: vi does not keep file open
[23:50] <realubot> I want a ip to be allowed to visit /var/www/site/example/ but not the /var/www/site directory.
[23:50] <iceroot> Berxwedan: civ, world of goo (must have)
[23:51] <bob_> Has anyone ever heard of google chrome randomly closing on lynx?
[23:51] <Berxwedan> thanks iceroot
[23:51] <jabagawee> mechdave: yes
[23:51] <MagicJ> ah - ok - let me try a srip to open it - I said "dumb" didn't I?
[23:51] <WesTCB> i have just installed chat on my ubuntu box and when i type a pound i wet a £...can you help here?
[23:51] <ohir> MagicJ: vi(m) keeps its own temp file (so called swp file)
[23:51] <mechdave> jabagawee, ok can you still log in?
[23:51] <Berxwedan> iceroot: i used to play those games a lot, nostalgic :D
[23:52] <jabagawee> mechdave: no, i forgot the password
[23:52] <Berxwedan> quake and ut series
[23:52] <iceroot> Berxwedan: and that are alle nativ linux games
[23:52] <MagicJ> ty - ohir - just what I needed - you are the best (or at least very good)
[23:52] <mechdave> jabagawee, righto... just a moment please...
[23:53] <WesTCB> i think it a keyboard settings issue but but im new to this and dont know how to set up the keyboard for proper symbols
[23:53] <WesTCB> all my char keys are wrong
[23:54] <spezticle> can somebody help share eth0 so that eth0 on my system can share internet.
[23:54] <_Christian> Hi, i need some help, iam trying to ruun fear server, but they says fearserver.bin doesnt exists, when is in the carpet, soebody can help me?
[23:54] <WesTCB> spez
[23:54] <spezticle> westcp: yeah?
[23:54] <_Christian> -bash: ./fearserver.bin: No such file or directory
[23:55] <WesTCB> do you know how to change keyboard layout...all my char keys are wrong
[23:55] <WesTCB> letters are fine
[23:55] <WesTCB> just char are wrong
[23:55] <_Christian> -rwxrwxrwx 1 vcloud vcloud 532895 2006-08-24 17:21 fearserver.bin
[23:55] <iceroot> !layout | WesTCB
[23:55] <spezticle> westcb: hah it's habbit typing tcp not tcb sorry about that typo lol
[23:55] <WesTCB> np
[23:55] <iceroot> spezticle: you can use tab to complete nicknames, try icer and press tab
[23:55] <WesTCB> thx
[23:56] <iceroot> spezticle: or we and press tab
[23:56] <spezticle> iceroot: nice i like that thanks
[23:56] <iceroot> spezticle: that is also working on the shell, e.g.  cd /ho tab == cd /home
[23:57] <cousteau> is there a way to install ubuntu (with all the ubuntu-desktop "Depends") but without the "Recommends"?
[23:57] <spezticle> iceroot: that's quite convienient. for the ammount of shell i use, i wish i would have known that sooner
[23:57] <acerimmer_> !minimal|costeau
[23:58] <spezticle> now i just have to figure out how to set eth0 to share internet to my router so router can disperse the internet among other pc's
[23:58] <iceroot> spezticle: tab is a good feature for the bash and a killer-feature for zsh (something like bash but better)
[23:58] <cousteau> cool, thanks acerimmer_
[23:58] <geronimo_> Hey, my php extension seems to be working only localhost on lighttpd and apache, any solutions?
[23:58] <drdozer1> hi - how do I install java7 on the latest ubuntu? I can't find it packaged anywere :9
[23:58] <spezticle> i did have it set up where windows was sharing it, but i got sick of windows screwing it up all the time so now i'm doing it on the ubuntu server box
[23:59] <iceroot> drdozer1: there is no java7
[23:59] <Sereph> I'm trying to burn a music cd and its too big to fit on one disc so brasereo said to use multiple discs which i want.. but it spits this error when i try to burn the first... Not enough space available on the disc (359843 available for 359992)