| abstrakt | what's the wiki page about turning regular ubuntu into ubuntu studio? | 00:09 |
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| holstein | !vanilla | 00:20 |
| ubottu | To install Ubuntu Studio on top of a vanilla Ubuntu install, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Installation | 00:20 |
| holstein | abstrakt: ^^ | 00:20 |
| abstrakt | holstein, any idea how to get my wireless driver working while under -rt ? | 00:22 |
| holstein | thats a good question | 00:22 |
| abstrakt | heh, yeah it is | 00:22 |
| holstein | i would probably look into adding it as a module i guess | 00:22 |
| abstrakt | driver manager says: "This driver is activated but not in use" | 00:22 |
| holstein | thats going to be challenging to find help with that | 00:23 |
| abstrakt | holstein, that's just it though i added it already | 00:23 |
| abstrakt | through the "Hardware Drivers" "Control Panel" | 00:23 |
| abstrakt | System -> Administration -> Hardware drivers | 00:23 |
| abstrakt | works in regular kernel but not in -rt | 00:23 |
| holstein | thats true | 00:23 |
| holstein | that should be the same i suppose | 00:23 |
| abstrakt | what should be the same as what? | 00:24 |
| holstein | as if you built a module into some other kernel | 00:24 |
| holstein | LIKE adding it to the gerneric kernel is the same as installing the restricted driver | 00:24 |
| holstein | maybe? | 00:24 |
| holstein | maybe not... | 00:24 |
| abstrakt | sorry i don't quite follow | 00:25 |
| * holstein just thinking outloud | 00:25 | |
| holstein | SAY | 00:25 |
| holstein | you had the generic kernel | 00:25 |
| holstein | back in the day | 00:25 |
| holstein | about 3 years ago | 00:25 |
| abstrakt | still have it | 00:25 |
| abstrakt | oh | 00:25 |
| abstrakt | the royal "you" :) | 00:25 |
| holstein | and you had a wireless adapter | 00:25 |
| holstein | yeah :) | 00:25 |
| holstein | and the kernel didnt support it | 00:26 |
| holstein | you could build your own kernel | 00:26 |
| holstein | or add it as a module | 00:26 |
| holstein | AFAIK | 00:26 |
| holstein | im not sure if i have the terminology corret | 00:26 |
| abstrakt | um, that's, basically right | 00:26 |
| holstein | i never got any of that to work for me back in the day ;) | 00:26 |
| holstein | ANYWAYS | 00:26 |
| abstrakt | i've compiled kernels before | 00:27 |
| holstein | we are assuming that adding the 'restricted driver' is the same process | 00:27 |
| holstein | as adding a module to the generic kernel | 00:27 |
| abstrakt | uh, yeah it's gotta be a module based system afaik | 00:27 |
| holstein | BUT maybe its not | 00:27 |
| abstrakt | cuz it's not distributed with the kernel | 00:27 |
| abstrakt | cuz of the licensing | 00:27 |
| abstrakt | so it has to be a module | 00:27 |
| holstein | i dont know | 00:27 |
| holstein | have you tried | 00:27 |
| holstein | removing the driver | 00:27 |
| abstrakt | yup | 00:28 |
| holstein | and installing it while running RT? | 00:28 |
| holstein | hmmmm | 00:28 |
| abstrakt | i originally installed while running -rt | 00:28 |
| abstrakt | and it said "ok now you need to reboot" | 00:28 |
| abstrakt | and i said "ok... poke" | 00:28 |
| abstrakt | and it rebooted | 00:28 |
| abstrakt | and i got a fancy new black screen | 00:28 |
| holstein | and no love | 00:28 |
| abstrakt | and it didn't go any farther | 00:28 |
| abstrakt | BIOS loaded, but instead of grub a single blinking cursor and beepy keys | 00:29 |
| holstein | i got nothin... | 00:29 |
| holstein | let me see if my friend is online | 00:29 |
| abstrakt | yeh me neither | 00:29 |
| abstrakt | this has happened with 10.04 and 9.10 | 00:29 |
| abstrakt | 64 bit | 00:29 |
| abstrakt | both | 00:29 |
| abstrakt | both, are/were 64 bit | 00:29 |
| abstrakt | but 64 def provides a noticeable increase in latency performance | 00:30 |
| abstrakt | so i'd really like to use 64 bit if possible, but, don't really wanna go without network | 00:30 |
| abstrakt | don't wanna have to reboot just to get network | 00:30 |
| holstein | my friend is away | 00:30 |
| holstein | BUT i sent him a PM | 00:30 |
| abstrakt | oh well | 00:30 |
| abstrakt | k | 00:30 |
| holstein | if he responds i'll let you know | 00:30 |
| abstrakt | i think this isn't an issue on 32 bit honestly :/ | 00:31 |
| holstein | hes a kernel dev | 00:31 |
| abstrakt | oh, wow, ok | 00:31 |
| holstein | and i think he would know who to talk to | 00:31 |
| holstein | at least | 00:31 |
| holstein | if he dosnt have time for us | 00:31 |
| abstrakt | i mean i don't know what he could do about it cuz it's a proprietary driver | 00:31 |
| holstein | he doesnt do the RT kernel at all AFAIK | 00:31 |
| abstrakt | k | 00:31 |
| holstein | doesnt hurt to ask | 00:31 |
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| bartje | hi, I seem to have a problem with kino, more specific, it won't start because it doesn't find libquicktime.so.1 . It indeed is not on my harddrive, even though I did install libquicktime1, also the dev package... | 16:25 |
| bartje | using ubuntustudio 10.04 by the way | 16:26 |
| bartje | and kdenlive doesn't want to connect to my camcorder either (firewire), the permissions are right, and I do have the user (me) in the video group | 16:27 |
| bartje | starting dvgrab from the command line, it gives the same error, no libquicktime.so.1... so there's the problem apparently | 16:32 |
| bartje | I solved it using this : | 16:45 |
| bartje | cd /usr/lib | 16:45 |
| bartje | sudo sudo ln libquicktime.so.0 libquicktime.so.1 | 16:45 |
| bartje | (one sudo ofcourse :-) ) | 16:45 |
| bartje | and my camcorder now connects to kdenlive too, so, this was an error. Are there any others that have had this problem? Maybe it's a bug to be fixed, if so, I'd file a bug report.. | 16:47 |
| astraljava | bartje: Doesn't it look like a bug? At least it reeks of bug to me. :) So yes, file it, as it seems to have been around from at least second half of 2008: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=873974 | 16:52 |
| bartje | I never had this problem before, and I do use ubuntu since 2008 | 16:54 |
| holstein | bartje: strange, that seems so much like a permissions issue doesnt it? | 16:54 |
| bartje | it is fixed like I described, so no rights problem | 16:54 |
| bartje | sorry, 'permission problem' | 16:54 |
| holstein | bartje: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntustudio/+filebug | 16:55 |
| holstein | i think thats a good start | 16:56 |
| bartje | ok, thanks :-) | 16:56 |
| astraljava | Hmm... don't know really if it's a bug or not. Or rather, a bug on which piece of software. /usr/lib/libquicktime.so.1 is installed on 8.10 version of libquicktime1, but looks like it isn't anymore. | 17:04 |
| holstein | i was reading wrong:/ | 17:06 |
| holstein | i thought the programs getting started sudo made it work | 17:06 |
| holstein | astraljava: were you just trying it? | 17:06 |
| bartje | I tried using sudo kino, but that didn't do the job | 17:07 |
| bartje | so, anyone else that can't start kino? | 17:07 |
| holstein | what was the command that you were using bartje ? | 17:08 |
| holstein | can i do it withoug a camcorder? | 17:08 |
| holstein | i'll try and confirm it | 17:08 |
| * holstein is an audio guy | 17:08 | |
| bartje | :-) | 17:08 |
| bartje | bugreport is written, I just have to push the 'submit' button | 17:08 |
| holstein | hit it | 17:08 |
| holstein | cant hurt | 17:09 |
| bartje | done | 17:09 |
| bartje | I reproduced the error by starting dvgrab from the commandline, | 17:09 |
| holstein | that sounds like something i can handle | 17:10 |
| bartje | I guess the options for where the bug is, are limited to dvgrab or libquicktime1 | 17:10 |
| astraljava | holstein: No I did not. I just checked whether I had that file, and when I did, which package owned it. Now I'm not just sure whether it's a bug on libquicktime1 for not including it, or kino et al. for still depending on it. | 17:13 |
| bartje | so you guys have the same problem? | 17:19 |
| holstein | hmmm | 17:19 |
| holstein | is dvdgrab installed by default? | 17:19 |
| holstein | OH | 17:20 |
| holstein | hehe | 17:20 |
| holstein | i was spelling it wrong | 17:21 |
| bartje | :-) | 17:21 |
| holstein | i also only have the audio meta-pacakges | 17:22 |
| holstein | packages* | 17:22 |
| holstein | i'm installing kino and dvgrab | 17:22 |
| holstein | SO kino started fine | 17:23 |
| holstein | bartje: was there something in particular in kino? | 17:24 |
| holstein | that i can trigger without a camera? | 17:24 |
| bartje | hmm, I didn't try starting Kino without the camera connected of course, should have done that before | 17:25 |
| holstein | and i get 'Error: no camera exists' with dvgrab | 17:25 |
| holstein | i dont think im going to be able to reproduce it without a camera | 17:26 |
| bartje | I'll unlink libquicktime.so.1, and try again with the camera disconnected, OK? | 17:26 |
| holstein | its up to you | 17:27 |
| holstein | the bug report is good | 17:27 |
| holstein | i was just going to try and confirm it with different hardware | 17:27 |
| holstein | to get the camera out of the equasion | 17:27 |
| bartje | ah, ok | 17:27 |
| holstein | ScottL: is there a testing ppa i should add? | 17:32 |
| holstein | to get the pulse-jack package for testing with maverick? | 17:32 |
| bartje | I did get the same error with the camcorder disconnected, weird... | 17:34 |
| holstein | bartje: hmmm | 17:34 |
| holstein | just starting kino? | 17:34 |
| bartje | using kino 1.3.4 | 17:35 |
| holstein | 1.3.4-1ubuntu1 | 17:38 |
| bartje | yep, same one here | 17:38 |
| astraljava | bartje: What's the output of: dpkg -L libquicktime1|grep .so. | 17:42 |
| bartje | /usr/lib/libquicktime/lqt_faac.so | 17:43 |
| bartje | /usr/lib/libquicktime/lqt_videocodec.so | 17:43 |
| bartje | /usr/lib/libquicktime/lqt_schroedinger.so | 17:43 |
| bartje | /usr/lib/libquicktime/lqt_x264.so | 17:43 |
| bartje | /usr/lib/libquicktime/lqt_mjpeg.so | 17:43 |
| bartje | /usr/lib/libquicktime/lqt_audiocodec.so | 17:43 |
| bartje | /usr/lib/libquicktime/lqt_rtjpeg.so | 17:43 |
| bartje | /usr/lib/libquicktime/lqt_faad2.so | 17:43 |
| bartje | /usr/lib/libquicktime/lqt_lame.so | 17:43 |
| bartje | /usr/lib/libquicktime/lqt_vorbis.so | 17:43 |
| bartje | /usr/lib/libquicktime/lqt_ffmpeg.so | 17:43 |
| bartje | /usr/lib/libquicktime/lqt_png.so | 17:43 |
| bartje | /usr/lib/libquicktime/lqt_dv.so | 17:43 |
| bartje | /usr/lib/libquicktime.so.0.0.0 | 17:43 |
| bartje | oops, flooding-warning :-/ | 17:44 |
| holstein | hehe | 17:44 |
| holstein | i can get kino running | 17:44 |
| holstein | on maverick and lucid | 17:44 |
| holstein | BUT i got no camera | 17:44 |
| bartje | I have the option to select quicktime DV in preferences-Capture | 17:45 |
| bartje | in previous versions I did not | 17:45 |
| holstein | which i assume is a nice new feature | 17:45 |
| bartje | (if I remember it well, I don't remember ever having seen that option before) | 17:46 |
| holstein | cool | 17:46 |
| holstein | i havent looked at the video tools in a long time | 17:46 |
| holstein | kino looks great | 17:47 |
| astraljava | bartje: Yeah flooding, since you left out the final dot. :) | 17:47 |
| bartje | ah, ok, that happens with copy/paste. | 17:47 |
| astraljava | But it's okay, shows that the package didn't install that file for you. Can you holstein do the same, please? | 17:48 |
| holstein | :) | 17:48 |
| holstein | i get 2 lines | 17:49 |
| holstein | /usr/lib/libquicktime.so.1.0.0 | 17:49 |
| holstein | and | 17:49 |
| holstein | /usr/lib/libquicktime.so.1 | 17:49 |
| astraljava | holstein: Thanks. What's the output of: apt-cache policy libquicktime1 ? The both of you, please. :) | 17:50 |
| bartje | and a dot at the end... :-) | 17:52 |
| bartje | libquicktime1: | 17:52 |
| bartje | Geïnstalleerd: 2:1.1.4+0ubuntu0+withcodecs3 | 17:52 |
| bartje | Kandidaat: 2:1.1.4+0ubuntu0+withcodecs3 | 17:52 |
| bartje | Versietabel: | 17:52 |
| bartje | *** 2:1.1.4+0ubuntu0+withcodecs3 0 | 17:52 |
| holstein | installed and candidate versions are both 2:1.1.4-1 | 17:52 |
| bartje | 500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/falk-t-j/lucid/ubuntu/ lucid/main Packages | 17:52 |
| bartje | 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status | 17:52 |
| bartje | 2:1.1.4-1 0 | 17:52 |
| bartje | 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid/universe Packages. | 17:52 |
| holstein | hmmm | 17:52 |
| holstein | libquicktime1: Installed: 2:1.1.4-1 Candidate: 2:1.1.4-1 | 17:53 |
| holstein | like that | 17:53 |
| holstein | and | 17:53 |
| holstein | Version table: | 17:53 |
| holstein | *** 2:1.1.4-1 0 | 17:53 |
| holstein | 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid/universe Packages | 17:53 |
| holstein | 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status | 17:53 |
| astraljava | bartje: There's your answer, you're using an out-of-distro version of the package. | 17:54 |
| holstein | pastebin not getting any love today ;) | 17:54 |
| astraljava | It's only a couple of lines, no that big a deal. :D | 17:54 |
| holstein | OH yeah | 17:55 |
| holstein | the falk PPA | 17:55 |
| holstein | bartje: falk is over in #opensourcemusicians right now | 17:55 |
| bartje | is over, you mean, not in use anymore? | 17:55 |
| holstein | no | 17:55 |
| holstein | the guy | 17:55 |
| holstein | hes over there | 17:55 |
| holstein | if you want to tell him | 17:56 |
| holstein | falktx | 17:56 |
| bartje | ah, sure | 17:56 |
| bartje | glad to do some usefull for ubuntustudio for once :-) | 17:57 |
| holstein | :) | 17:57 |
| astraljava | bartje: Actually, that had nothing to do with ubuntustudio, as it wasn't the version we use. :D | 17:58 |
| holstein | kxstudio is kind of an unofficial proving ground though | 17:58 |
| holstein | for some ubuntustudio future projects | 17:59 |
| bartje | wow, useful for the future then :-) | 18:00 |
| bartje | gotto go, rehearsal :-), thanks for the advice | 18:14 |
| holstein | bartje: later | 18:15 |
| astraljava | bartje: Have fun! | 18:16 |
| bartje | I surely will, Aux Raus (belgian franchise) is fun :-p, bye | 18:17 |
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| abstrakt | anyone here made a liveUSB image out of the studio ISO? | 20:45 |
| abstrakt | i tried making one using the fedora LiveUSB creator but no go :/ | 20:45 |
| abstrakt | eventually it said it couldn't find media and wanted to know where to find media, like gave me a list that said to try to e.g. use a CD or whatever | 20:45 |
| abstrakt | but there's no way to select the USB drive as the media | 20:46 |
| holstein | abstrakt: i didnt get it to install | 20:46 |
| holstein | i tried it too, and gave up | 20:46 |
| holstein | the same with a crunchbang ISO that uses that installer | 20:46 |
| abstrakt | :( | 20:47 |
| abstrakt | damn | 20:47 |
| abstrakt | i seriously don't want to use a CD | 20:47 |
| abstrakt | my DVD/CD drive is totally screwed | 20:47 |
| abstrakt | and it's SOOOO slow compared to USB | 20:47 |
| abstrakt | holstein: hey, where's that list of software that i need to *remove* to make my system be like ubuntu studio? | 20:48 |
| abstrakt | i can't find any such list | 20:48 |
| abstrakt | only documents explaining what to add | 20:48 |
| holstein | hmmmm | 20:48 |
| holstein | im not sure | 20:48 |
| holstein | i usually just add the stuff i need | 20:48 |
| holstein | ive done it before though | 20:48 |
| holstein | and adding just worked | 20:49 |
| holstein | the network manager should be taken out i suppose | 20:49 |
| holstein | if you want it to be the same | 20:49 |
| holstein | BUT i wouldnt do that unless you run into an issue | 20:49 |
| astraljava | abstrakt: Did your google-fu fail you? :D https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/usb-creator/C/making-a-live-usb.html | 21:07 |
| abstrakt | astraljava: yes it did because A) that's not for 10.04 and B) my usb-creator program just doesn't work | 21:07 |
| abstrakt | works on windows, not on ubuntu | 21:08 |
| abstrakt | dunno why but them's the breaks | 21:08 |
| abstrakt | i'm already on 9.10 | 21:08 |
| abstrakt | astraljava: also... that's not ubuntu STUDIO specific | 21:08 |
| abstrakt | ubuntu studio uses a different (alternate/text based) installer | 21:08 |
| astraljava | abstrakt: Oh, dang. Forgot we were on #ubuntustudio, my mistake. :) | 21:09 |
| astraljava | abstrakt: Yeah, might be hard to do that, since the .iso doesn't have desktop. | 21:09 |
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