[00:09] what's the wiki page about turning regular ubuntu into ubuntu studio? [00:20] !vanilla [00:20] To install Ubuntu Studio on top of a vanilla Ubuntu install, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Installation [00:20] abstrakt: ^^ [00:22] holstein, any idea how to get my wireless driver working while under -rt ? [00:22] thats a good question [00:22] heh, yeah it is [00:22] i would probably look into adding it as a module i guess [00:22] driver manager says: "This driver is activated but not in use" [00:23] thats going to be challenging to find help with that [00:23] holstein, that's just it though i added it already [00:23] through the "Hardware Drivers" "Control Panel" [00:23] System -> Administration -> Hardware drivers [00:23] works in regular kernel but not in -rt [00:23] thats true [00:23] that should be the same i suppose [00:24] what should be the same as what? [00:24] as if you built a module into some other kernel [00:24] LIKE adding it to the gerneric kernel is the same as installing the restricted driver [00:24] maybe? [00:24] maybe not... [00:25] sorry i don't quite follow [00:25] * holstein just thinking outloud [00:25] SAY [00:25] you had the generic kernel [00:25] back in the day [00:25] about 3 years ago [00:25] still have it [00:25] oh [00:25] the royal "you" :) [00:25] and you had a wireless adapter [00:25] yeah :) [00:26] and the kernel didnt support it [00:26] you could build your own kernel [00:26] or add it as a module [00:26] AFAIK [00:26] im not sure if i have the terminology corret [00:26] um, that's, basically right [00:26] i never got any of that to work for me back in the day ;) [00:26] ANYWAYS [00:27] i've compiled kernels before [00:27] we are assuming that adding the 'restricted driver' is the same process [00:27] as adding a module to the generic kernel [00:27] uh, yeah it's gotta be a module based system afaik [00:27] BUT maybe its not [00:27] cuz it's not distributed with the kernel [00:27] cuz of the licensing [00:27] so it has to be a module [00:27] i dont know [00:27] have you tried [00:27] removing the driver [00:28] yup [00:28] and installing it while running RT? [00:28] hmmmm [00:28] i originally installed while running -rt [00:28] and it said "ok now you need to reboot" [00:28] and i said "ok... poke" [00:28] and it rebooted [00:28] and i got a fancy new black screen [00:28] and no love [00:28] and it didn't go any farther [00:29] BIOS loaded, but instead of grub a single blinking cursor and beepy keys [00:29] i got nothin... [00:29] let me see if my friend is online [00:29] yeh me neither [00:29] this has happened with 10.04 and 9.10 [00:29] 64 bit [00:29] both [00:29] both, are/were 64 bit [00:30] but 64 def provides a noticeable increase in latency performance [00:30] so i'd really like to use 64 bit if possible, but, don't really wanna go without network [00:30] don't wanna have to reboot just to get network [00:30] my friend is away [00:30] BUT i sent him a PM [00:30] oh well [00:30] k [00:30] if he responds i'll let you know [00:31] i think this isn't an issue on 32 bit honestly :/ [00:31] hes a kernel dev [00:31] oh, wow, ok [00:31] and i think he would know who to talk to [00:31] at least [00:31] if he dosnt have time for us [00:31] i mean i don't know what he could do about it cuz it's a proprietary driver [00:31] he doesnt do the RT kernel at all AFAIK [00:31] k [00:31] doesnt hurt to ask === Blank___ is now known as Blank__ === TheMuso` is now known as TheMuso === funkyHat_ is now known as funkyHat === sobukus_ is now known as sobukys === sobukys is now known as sobukus === pogay1 is now known as pog [16:25] hi, I seem to have a problem with kino, more specific, it won't start because it doesn't find libquicktime.so.1 . It indeed is not on my harddrive, even though I did install libquicktime1, also the dev package... [16:26] using ubuntustudio 10.04 by the way [16:27] and kdenlive doesn't want to connect to my camcorder either (firewire), the permissions are right, and I do have the user (me) in the video group [16:32] starting dvgrab from the command line, it gives the same error, no libquicktime.so.1... so there's the problem apparently [16:45] I solved it using this : [16:45] cd /usr/lib [16:45] sudo sudo ln libquicktime.so.0 libquicktime.so.1 [16:45] (one sudo ofcourse :-) ) [16:47] and my camcorder now connects to kdenlive too, so, this was an error. Are there any others that have had this problem? Maybe it's a bug to be fixed, if so, I'd file a bug report.. [16:52] bartje: Doesn't it look like a bug? At least it reeks of bug to me. :) So yes, file it, as it seems to have been around from at least second half of 2008: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=873974 [16:54] I never had this problem before, and I do use ubuntu since 2008 [16:54] bartje: strange, that seems so much like a permissions issue doesnt it? [16:54] it is fixed like I described, so no rights problem [16:54] sorry, 'permission problem' [16:55] bartje: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntustudio/+filebug [16:56] i think thats a good start [16:56] ok, thanks :-) [17:04] Hmm... don't know really if it's a bug or not. Or rather, a bug on which piece of software. /usr/lib/libquicktime.so.1 is installed on 8.10 version of libquicktime1, but looks like it isn't anymore. [17:06] i was reading wrong:/ [17:06] i thought the programs getting started sudo made it work [17:06] astraljava: were you just trying it? [17:07] I tried using sudo kino, but that didn't do the job [17:07] so, anyone else that can't start kino? [17:08] what was the command that you were using bartje ? [17:08] can i do it withoug a camcorder? [17:08] i'll try and confirm it [17:08] * holstein is an audio guy [17:08] :-) [17:08] bugreport is written, I just have to push the 'submit' button [17:08] hit it [17:09] cant hurt [17:09] done [17:09] I reproduced the error by starting dvgrab from the commandline, [17:10] that sounds like something i can handle [17:10] I guess the options for where the bug is, are limited to dvgrab or libquicktime1 [17:13] holstein: No I did not. I just checked whether I had that file, and when I did, which package owned it. Now I'm not just sure whether it's a bug on libquicktime1 for not including it, or kino et al. for still depending on it. [17:19] so you guys have the same problem? [17:19] hmmm [17:19] is dvdgrab installed by default? [17:20] OH [17:20] hehe [17:21] i was spelling it wrong [17:21] :-) [17:22] i also only have the audio meta-pacakges [17:22] packages* [17:22] i'm installing kino and dvgrab [17:23] SO kino started fine [17:24] bartje: was there something in particular in kino? [17:24] that i can trigger without a camera? [17:25] hmm, I didn't try starting Kino without the camera connected of course, should have done that before [17:25] and i get 'Error: no camera exists' with dvgrab [17:26] i dont think im going to be able to reproduce it without a camera [17:26] I'll unlink libquicktime.so.1, and try again with the camera disconnected, OK? [17:27] its up to you [17:27] the bug report is good [17:27] i was just going to try and confirm it with different hardware [17:27] to get the camera out of the equasion [17:27] ah, ok [17:32] ScottL: is there a testing ppa i should add? [17:32] to get the pulse-jack package for testing with maverick? [17:34] I did get the same error with the camcorder disconnected, weird... [17:34] bartje: hmmm [17:34] just starting kino? [17:35] using kino 1.3.4 [17:38] 1.3.4-1ubuntu1 [17:38] yep, same one here [17:42] bartje: What's the output of: dpkg -L libquicktime1|grep .so. [17:43] /usr/lib/libquicktime/lqt_faac.so [17:43] /usr/lib/libquicktime/lqt_videocodec.so [17:43] /usr/lib/libquicktime/lqt_schroedinger.so [17:43] /usr/lib/libquicktime/lqt_x264.so [17:43] /usr/lib/libquicktime/lqt_mjpeg.so [17:43] /usr/lib/libquicktime/lqt_audiocodec.so [17:43] /usr/lib/libquicktime/lqt_rtjpeg.so [17:43] /usr/lib/libquicktime/lqt_faad2.so [17:43] /usr/lib/libquicktime/lqt_lame.so [17:43] /usr/lib/libquicktime/lqt_vorbis.so [17:43] /usr/lib/libquicktime/lqt_ffmpeg.so [17:43] /usr/lib/libquicktime/lqt_png.so [17:43] /usr/lib/libquicktime/lqt_dv.so [17:43] /usr/lib/libquicktime.so.0.0.0 [17:44] oops, flooding-warning :-/ [17:44] hehe [17:44] i can get kino running [17:44] on maverick and lucid [17:44] BUT i got no camera [17:45] I have the option to select quicktime DV in preferences-Capture [17:45] in previous versions I did not [17:45] which i assume is a nice new feature [17:46] (if I remember it well, I don't remember ever having seen that option before) [17:46] cool [17:46] i havent looked at the video tools in a long time [17:47] kino looks great [17:47] bartje: Yeah flooding, since you left out the final dot. :) [17:47] ah, ok, that happens with copy/paste. [17:48] But it's okay, shows that the package didn't install that file for you. Can you holstein do the same, please? [17:48] :) [17:49] i get 2 lines [17:49] /usr/lib/libquicktime.so.1.0.0 [17:49] and [17:49] /usr/lib/libquicktime.so.1 [17:50] holstein: Thanks. What's the output of: apt-cache policy libquicktime1 ? The both of you, please. :) [17:52] and a dot at the end... :-) [17:52] libquicktime1: [17:52] Geïnstalleerd: 2:1.1.4+0ubuntu0+withcodecs3 [17:52] Kandidaat: 2:1.1.4+0ubuntu0+withcodecs3 [17:52] Versietabel: [17:52] *** 2:1.1.4+0ubuntu0+withcodecs3 0 [17:52] installed and candidate versions are both 2:1.1.4-1 [17:52] 500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/falk-t-j/lucid/ubuntu/ lucid/main Packages [17:52] 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status [17:52] 2:1.1.4-1 0 [17:52] 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid/universe Packages. [17:52] hmmm [17:53] libquicktime1: Installed: 2:1.1.4-1 Candidate: 2:1.1.4-1 [17:53] like that [17:53] and [17:53] Version table: [17:53] *** 2:1.1.4-1 0 [17:53] 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid/universe Packages [17:53] 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status [17:54] bartje: There's your answer, you're using an out-of-distro version of the package. [17:54] pastebin not getting any love today ;) [17:54] It's only a couple of lines, no that big a deal. :D [17:55] OH yeah [17:55] the falk PPA [17:55] bartje: falk is over in #opensourcemusicians right now [17:55] is over, you mean, not in use anymore? [17:55] no [17:55] the guy [17:55] hes over there [17:56] if you want to tell him [17:56] falktx [17:56] ah, sure [17:57] glad to do some usefull for ubuntustudio for once :-) [17:57] :) [17:58] bartje: Actually, that had nothing to do with ubuntustudio, as it wasn't the version we use. :D [17:58] kxstudio is kind of an unofficial proving ground though [17:59] for some ubuntustudio future projects [18:00] wow, useful for the future then :-) [18:14] gotto go, rehearsal :-), thanks for the advice [18:15] bartje: later [18:16] bartje: Have fun! [18:17] I surely will, Aux Raus (belgian franchise) is fun :-p, bye === Benignitas is now known as infloop [20:45] anyone here made a liveUSB image out of the studio ISO? [20:45] i tried making one using the fedora LiveUSB creator but no go :/ [20:45] eventually it said it couldn't find media and wanted to know where to find media, like gave me a list that said to try to e.g. use a CD or whatever [20:46] but there's no way to select the USB drive as the media [20:46] abstrakt: i didnt get it to install [20:46] i tried it too, and gave up [20:46] the same with a crunchbang ISO that uses that installer [20:47] :( [20:47] damn [20:47] i seriously don't want to use a CD [20:47] my DVD/CD drive is totally screwed [20:47] and it's SOOOO slow compared to USB [20:48] holstein: hey, where's that list of software that i need to *remove* to make my system be like ubuntu studio? [20:48] i can't find any such list [20:48] only documents explaining what to add [20:48] hmmmm [20:48] im not sure [20:48] i usually just add the stuff i need [20:48] ive done it before though [20:49] and adding just worked [20:49] the network manager should be taken out i suppose [20:49] if you want it to be the same [20:49] BUT i wouldnt do that unless you run into an issue [21:07] abstrakt: Did your google-fu fail you? :D https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/usb-creator/C/making-a-live-usb.html [21:07] astraljava: yes it did because A) that's not for 10.04 and B) my usb-creator program just doesn't work [21:08] works on windows, not on ubuntu [21:08] dunno why but them's the breaks [21:08] i'm already on 9.10 [21:08] astraljava: also... that's not ubuntu STUDIO specific [21:08] ubuntu studio uses a different (alternate/text based) installer [21:09] abstrakt: Oh, dang. Forgot we were on #ubuntustudio, my mistake. :) [21:09] abstrakt: Yeah, might be hard to do that, since the .iso doesn't have desktop.