[00:22] <xubuntu511> hi
[00:57] <erxyz> I am trying to install Xubuntu now with the alternate CD
[00:57] <erxyz> and i keep getting the error at 6%
[00:58] <erxyz> varning
[00:58] <erxyz> file:///cdrom/pool/main/c/console-setup/console-setup_1.34ubuntu15all.deb was corrupt
[00:59] <erxyz> Seems impossible to get it installed
[01:22] <ochosi> erxyz: well, i would guess that your image or your cd is corrupt
[01:23] <ochosi> erxyz: if you didn't use torrent for download, check the md5 sum of the image
[01:24] <ochosi> erxyz: if you did use torrent (or local_md5==server_md5) then check your cd-burning programme (or create a usb-bootstick)
[03:16] <Raggs> hi all
[10:04] <Chrissyboy> help required on editing Xubuntu dual boot GRUB menu
[10:08] <nikolam> hmm Chrissyboy
[10:09] <nikolam> there is article on help.ubuntu.com about grub 2 procedures
[10:10] <nikolam> Chrissyboy, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[10:12] <Chrissyboy> yeh read most of it - however, I have a dual boot OS, Ubuntu 10.04 was 1st on the menu, then I installed Xubuntu as well, but it stole 1st 2n and 3rd base!!
[10:13] <Chrissyboy> I found menu.lst on the ubu OS and tried to change the default to line 6 but it didnt recognise it
[10:14] <Sysi> you shouldn't install xubuntu totally separately
[10:14] <Chrissyboy> I was also told i would have to change the menu in Xubu OS - so I went to the /boot folder, yes totally seperate
[10:15] <Chrissyboy> however the Xbu folder /boot didnt have a menu.lst file so I here!!
[10:16] <bazhang> Chrissyboy, did you read how there is not a menu.lst now?
[10:18] <bazhang> also, why not just install xubuntu-desktop with the existing gnome installation
[10:19] <Sysi> you have kinda old installation of ubuntu if there is menu.lst
[10:19] <Chrissyboy> mm - i see what u mean - its been changed to grub.cfg
[10:19] <bazhang> wonder if there is grub and grub2
[10:21] <Chrissyboy> The above link was not the one I was thinking of - it was on the Ubu Forums - Thanks for this link.
[10:24] <Chrissyboy> ok looks like /etc/default/grub is the location I need to find and edit?
[10:24] <bazhang> of course never directly edit grub.cfg
[10:26] <Chrissyboy> am i on the right track here?
[10:26] <Chrissyboy> version is Xubuntu 10.04
[10:35] <Matt__> Hi guys. Forgive me if this is a complete n00b question but after installing 10.04 I thought I had lost the system menu (applications - places - system) through a bad upgrade or something. After a lot of Googling I don't seem to be able to restore it. After checking the xubuntu website to see if I'd missed anything, I noticed on the screenshot of the new desktop there was no system option....
[10:35] <Matt__> ...Is this then by design? If so how do I access things like stsyem->preferences?
[10:36] <Sysi> from menu
[10:37] <Sysi> applications → settings
[10:37] <Sysi> and system
[10:37] <Matt__> I noticed that and there is no option for preferences.
[10:38] <Matt__> Am I looking in the wrong place?
[10:38] <knome> for what preferences?
[10:38] <Matt__> Yes
[10:39] <knome> what do you mean by "preferences"?
[10:39] <knome> preferred applications?
[10:40] <Matt__> No sorry, the menu where you can change things like fonts, font sizes, desktop background, etc.
[10:40] <Sysi> they aren't in same name as in ubuntu or as in same way
[10:40] <knome> applications » preferences
[10:41] <Matt__> No preferences option knome.
[10:41] <Matt__> Can I add in manually?
[10:41] <Sysi> don't care about names
[10:43] <Matt__> Sysi, I don't seem to be able to find the menu anywhere even after trying every menu option in applications and places as a last resort. I'm not even looking for the name any longer but just referencing here as that is what majoprity of people know it as. :)
[10:43] <Matt__> majority*
[10:44] <knome> Matt__, applications » settings » appearance
[10:44] <knome> Matt__, "preferences" does not tell anything, really, since that can mean *any* kind of preferences
[10:45] <mendocinox>  ikonia hola bruder:D matt bro:D
[10:45] <mendocinox> Pici bruder:D
[10:45] <Matt__> With you. apologies for the ambiguity
[10:45] <mendocinox> bazhang bro:D
[10:45] <knome> Matt__, np :) did you find the settings you looked for?
[10:46] <knome> mendocinox, please stop
[10:46] <mendocinox> knome ola!
[10:46] <Matt__> No appearance option in applications -> settings
[10:46] <knome> Matt__, really? do you have a clean xubuntu installation?
[10:46] <bazhang> mendocinox, what?
[10:47] <knome> Matt__, try 'sudo apt-get install xfce4-mcs-plugins'
[10:47] <Matt__> It was clean install of Karmic upgraded to Lucid
[10:47] <knome> Matt__, weird, i say, weird
[10:48] <Matt__> I'll give that a try and if that doesn't work, then I'll grab a copy of Lucid and do a fresh install. If that's where it should be then it may have been a bad install.
[10:48] <Sysi> release upgrades can cause problems
[10:48] <Matt__> Thanks guys ;)
[10:48] <knome> Matt__, well, if it doesn't work, ask again
[10:48] <knome> Matt__, we can try to work it out without reinstalling
[10:49] <Matt__> No worries. If it is a bad install/upgrade then that may not be the only thing wrong so would rather reinstall rather than fix problems as they occur.
[10:50] <knome> Matt__, i think it's the upgrade that caused this problem. before lucid i had upgraded and upgraded all the way from 6.06 :)
[10:53] <Matt__> That fix didn't work. Will try a reinstall. knome, sysi - help much appreciated.
[10:53] <knome> Matt__, well, you're welcome. good luck with the installation :)
[11:59] <erxyz> having problems with Xubuntu, finally got it "installed" with the Alternate CD, but now I cannot run it
[12:00] <erxyz> I also tried using the normal CD, but i choose language, choose Install, then a logo appears, then it disapears after some seconds, and nothing happens afterwards
[12:00] <erxyz> I installed it in "text" mode with Alternate CD
[12:01] <erxyz> But when I startup PC, i just get the logo and then "keys: Continue to wait; or Press S to skip.."
[12:01] <erxyz> i continue to wait, logo dispear and screen goes black and nothing happens
[12:13] <subspider> hello everyone
[12:24] <erxyz> anybody know how to solve this problem i described above?
[12:32] <mad_ady> Hello everyone
[12:32] <mad_ady> I have a rather noob-ish question
[12:33] <mad_ady> I'm trying to switch from /etc/network/interfaces configuration script to NetworkManager
[12:33] <mad_ady> on ubuntu 10.04.
[12:33] <mad_ady> My problem is - so far I haven't managed to start nm-applet.
[12:34] <mad_ady> Or, more accurately, it starts, but it doesn't show in my notification section on the panel
[12:34] <mad_ady> I've reinstalled (purge+install) the network-manager package
[12:34] <mad_ady> anything I could try?
[12:39] <mad_ady> http://paste.ubuntu.com/446598/
[12:45] <mad_ady> nothing?
[13:40] <lighta> Hi guys =), so I have a little probleme. I wanted to put a script on system lunch so I was looking for /etc/rc.d, but I found like 7 rcx.d folder, (from 0 to 6) what this mean and where should I put my script ?
[13:42] <slow-motion> hi
[13:43] <lighta> hi
[13:44] <knome> lighta, do you need it run before your desktop session starts?
[13:44] <lighta> yes I prefer
[13:45] <knome> lighta,     * /etc/rc.d/rc*.d - where “*” is a number corresponding to the default run level. Contains files for services to be started and stopped at that run level. On rpm-based systems, these files are symbolic links to the initialization scripts themselves, which are in /etc/rc.d/init.d.
[13:46] <lighta> I have no rc.d folder
[13:47] <lighta> have an rc.local and rcS.d
[16:48] <mrandrzejak> hi all. can anyone explain me the key differences with xubuntu compared with lubuntu? xfce and lxde are the major differences?
[16:49] <mrandrzejak> ive recently installed lubuntu on an old desktop, but thinking to switch to xubuntu as im just more familiar with ubuntu stuff
[16:49] <Sysi> !xfce
[16:49] <Sysi> !lxde
[16:49] <Sysi> no info about that
[16:50] <Sysi> DE and maybe some programs
[16:50] <likemindead> LXDE is one of my least favorite desktop environments. :-\
[16:51] <likemindead> It's like using Windows 3.1 or something. Blech.
[16:51] <Sysi> bit hard to configure maybe
[18:21] <zvacet> how can I add something from applications ( let say browser) to the panel
[18:25] <zvacet> in gnome i select what i want>right click>add to panel I want to know how it works in xfce
[18:45] <slow-motion> bye
[19:34] <xubuntu203> nice feature: webchat during installation process :-)
[20:25] <thueringer> guten abend alle zusammen = hello to everybody
[21:35] <onebitxajax> I hate rat can I change all icons of rat in sheep or something else?? pls??
[21:45] <lighta> it's a mouse not a rat =)
[21:53] <onebitxajax> can someone help me change all the mouse in sheep or something else??
[23:05] <mikubuntu> can anybody tell me how to remotely access my sister's computer to perform updates, etc ?
[23:05] <ochosi> mikubuntu: prolly ssh?
[23:07] <mikubuntu> ochosi, is there like an app?
[23:07] <ochosi> mikubuntu: so i assume you've never used ssh then
[23:08] <knome> mikubuntu, vnc for graphical access
[23:08] <ochosi> but for performing updates a shell would be enough
[23:08] <mikubuntu> i tried to access using her ip address and username using the remote access viewer on ubuntu, and i think it accessed her machine but i only saw a black screen, like a terminal
[23:08] <ochosi> if you'd like to try that you could install the openssh-server on your sisters pc
[23:09] <ochosi> well a terminal is perfect for updates
[23:09] <ochosi> just do a "sudo apt-get update"
[23:09] <ochosi> and then a "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[23:09] <mikubuntu> ochosi, but if i want full gui access for customizing her view, etc?
[23:10] <ochosi> well then knome's advice is for you
[23:10] <mikubuntu> so vnc is the app?
[23:11] <ochosi> it's the name of the service
[23:11] <ochosi> i've never used with xubuntu though i have to admit
[23:11] <ochosi> have you knome ?
[23:11] <knome> sure
[23:11] <mikubuntu> her machine is xubuntu and mine is ubuntu
[23:12] <knome> applications » network » remote desktop viewer
[23:12] <knome> mikubuntu, is there any firewalls in between?
[23:13] <mikubuntu> ummm, i don't think so .. nothing that i remember installing
[23:15] <mikubuntu> knome, that remote desktop viewer is what i tried, but i don't know if i actually accessed her computer, it din't even ask me for a password
[23:15] <mikubuntu> it asked for an ip address, which i called and she got for me, and a username
[23:16] <knome> mikubuntu, try to run 'x11vnc -safer -accept -once -display :0' from your sister's computer
[23:16] <knome> mikubuntu, and try again
[23:17] <mikubuntu> knome, i'm in florida and she's in georgia, do you mean run that through the remote viewer, or call her and have her run in terminal?
[23:18] <knome> call her
[23:18] <knome> (if i understood correctly, the remote viewer does not work (yet))
[23:18] <mikubuntu> i'm wondering if she'll be able to handle that .. haha, that's why i want to get in and do her updates and upgrades
[23:19] <knome> mikubuntu, well, if you had an ssh access, you'd be able to run that yourself
[23:20] <knome> mikubuntu, that would be 'sudo apt-get install openssh-server' as ochosi said
[23:20] <mikubuntu> knome, thats what i want to do is learn to set up a permanent access .. i also just sent an old box up to her mother in law, who will also not have any clue at first (if ever) of how to do anything past launching firefox
[23:21] <knome> mikubuntu, i'd say aim for ssh first.
[23:21] <knome> mikubuntu, then you have terminal access, which is pretty much already
[23:21] <mikubuntu> that install openssh-server is on my computer or her computer, or both
[23:21] <knome> her
[23:22] <knome> then 'ssh her_username@her_ip' from terminal
[23:22] <mikubuntu> k, after i get that done, i come back and look for you for help :) ?
[23:23] <mikubuntu> can she run that command from an alt/f2 terminal ?
[23:24] <mikubuntu> knome, will i be able to 'see' more than a terminal?  will i be able to see her desktop?
[23:27] <knome> mikubuntu, no, she needs terminal
[23:27] <knome> mikubuntu, once you get an ssh connection, you can run the x11vnc command yourself
[23:27] <knome> mikubuntu, and be able to connect via vnc (remote desktop viewer)
[23:28] <mikubuntu> knome, so the remote viewer will give me an actual gui view of her desktop?
[23:28] <knome> mikubuntu, yes
[23:28] <knome> that's why it's called "viewer"
[23:29] <mikubuntu> is the whole ssh installation a matter of running the'install openssh-server' then?
[23:30] <mikubuntu> waiting for her to call me back her cordless phone battery dying, she has to get the other handset
[23:31] <knome> mikubuntu, yes, 'sudo apt-get install openssh-server'