| shadeslayer | lex79: for accessibility? | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| lex79 | yes | 00:00 |
| shadeslayer | lex79: i can pastebin the diff for the 2 branches if you want | 00:01 |
| shadeslayer | lex79: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/kdeaccessibility/ubuntu/+merge/27093 | 00:06 |
| lex79 | shadeslayer: ok, I will look soon | 00:07 |
| shadeslayer | lex79: its not complete yet,do i need to add a conflicts too? | 00:07 |
| lex79 | no, I can do | 00:07 |
| shadeslayer | lex79: hmm.. ok as you wish... ill just update the package in ninja ppa | 00:08 |
| lex79 | kk | 00:08 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: Good | 00:08 |
| shadeslayer | lex79: im going to sleep,can you package the lucid version of kdeaccessibility ? | 00:21 |
| lex79 | yes | 00:21 |
| shadeslayer | thanks :) | 00:21 |
| === shadeslayer is now known as shadeslayer_ | ||
| lex79 | shadeslayer: btw no need (<< 4:4.4.85) in conflicts or replaces, since kttsd is gone | 00:22 |
| shadeslayer_ | lex79: ah ok | 00:22 |
| lex79 | ;) | 00:22 |
| lex79 | oh they bumped soversion of liblancelot | 01:01 |
| CIA-91 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1136109 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/qaptbatch.cpp Actually set the speed text to the downloadSpeed QString we make. :/ | 01:01 |
| lex79 | JontheEchidna: can't we ship lancelot dev libraries? | 01:04 |
| JontheEchidna | lex79: Nothing uses them, and Debian and us came to the agreement that it's not worth it | 01:04 |
| JontheEchidna | since in the past there have been ABI breaks without .so version bumps, and general .so weirdness | 01:05 |
| ScottK | IIRC upstream even agreed. | 01:05 |
| lex79 | ok | 01:06 |
| CIA-91 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1136110 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/ (detailswidget.cpp detailswidget.h) Don't shows the speed label unless the speed is above zero. | 01:10 |
| JontheEchidna | ^So I can either say "Speed: 0 KiB/s" at the start of the download, when APT doesn't have an estimate yet, or I can hide the label whenever speed hits 0 KiB/s, which would cover this scenario but also have the effect of hiding the speed label any time the download speed legitimately is zero | 01:12 |
| JontheEchidna | The first solution is inaccurate, but more informative if in the middle of a download the speed reaches zero, while the second solution prevents inaccurate info being presented, but presents less info if the download speed reaches zero in the middle of the download | 01:15 |
| JontheEchidna | The difference is that APT will always have a time at the start of a download where it reports zero, whereas the case where a user's download hits zero is not as certain | 01:16 |
| JontheEchidna | So that's why I went with the above commit | 01:16 |
| JontheEchidna | Any suggestions for a better solution are welcome | 01:16 |
| lex79 | JontheEchidna: It's just a thought, since "the case where a user's download hits zero is not as certain" but APT will always have a time at the start...maybe when label is 0 Kib/s could show "Calculating..." or something like that | 01:21 |
| JontheEchidna | Ideally the apt fetcher would return -1 when it's calculating, and 0 when the download really is zero, but that's a bit out of our control I think | 01:23 |
| lex79 | I think so | 01:24 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Can you set a flag the first time you get a non-zero download speed and then show zero if the flag is set? | 01:24 |
| ScottK | (and the speed is zero again) | 01:25 |
| JontheEchidna | that could work | 01:25 |
| ScottK | I think hiding the legit zeros would confuse users, so it's worth the added complexity. | 01:25 |
| JontheEchidna | Hmm, I wonder if I could get an upstream apt patch for returning -1 while still calculating... | 01:26 |
| JontheEchidna | looks like a one-liner | 01:26 |
| ScottK | You'd have to patch everything that relied on the existing return value too. | 01:26 |
| JontheEchidna | hrm, yeah... | 01:27 |
| JontheEchidna | stupid old apis | 01:27 |
| JontheEchidna | Well, your solution should work elegantly, even if it is sad that we have to do it that way | 01:27 |
| JontheEchidna | I could do this inside the qapt library so that nobody else using it has to figure it out | 01:28 |
| JontheEchidna | "The fail stops here" | 01:28 |
| ScottK | Good plan. | 01:33 |
| apachelogger | I got sold but I'm not soldier *sing* ^^ | 01:46 |
| CIA-91 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1136115 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/ (5 files in 3 dirs) (log message trimmed) | 02:01 |
| CIA-91 | In the fetcher constructor, add a m_calculatingSpeed bool that is initialized to | 02:01 |
| CIA-91 | true. Once the download starts (but before we get > 0 speeds from apt), set the | 02:01 |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: thanks | 02:01 |
| === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler | ||
| ScottK | Riddell: gpsd MIR is approved. I'm going to look at updating packages for it. Please pre-promote it so they'll build in the archive. | 04:23 |
| === a1 is now known as al | ||
| ghostcube | o/ | 09:42 |
| Riddell | nobody going to put their name forward for coucil elections? | 11:06 |
| Riddell | lex79: think of the power! | 11:07 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: think of the glory | 11:07 |
| Riddell | Quintasan|Szel: it could be yours! | 11:07 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: you could be famous! | 11:07 |
| Mamarok | Riddell: I don't think I need glory :) | 11:08 |
| === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Alpha 1 released! | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | Ninjas 4.5 beta 2 https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging | Kubuntu Council Needs You for election candidate | speakers wanted https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuTutorialsDay | ||
| Riddell | now you do, you're not in the /topic any more :) | 11:08 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: you do have a good feel for the community and good upstream links | 11:09 |
| Mamarok | nah, not sure, it comes with a lot of responsabilities, and sessions and stuff | 11:09 |
| Riddell | it really doesn't | 11:09 |
| Mamarok | hm, how much time to think do I have? | 11:09 |
| Riddell | until next monday | 11:09 |
| Mamarok | short... | 11:10 |
| Riddell | (unless nobody puts their name forward and it gets extended) | 11:10 |
| Riddell | jussi: one more council doesn't hurt :) | 11:11 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell, on my side I havent been active enough recently to apply :) | 11:12 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell, sadly, real life consumes a lot of time nowadays :( | 11:12 |
| Riddell | bah | 11:13 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell, though I still expect to get more free time soon... just I have no visibility on that point | 11:14 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell, anyway, I used to be a council member so if you need a name, I'll apply | 11:15 |
| Riddell | rgreening, nhandler, neversfelde, nixternal: fame, power and glory awaits! | 11:15 |
| Riddell | debfx: being a council member makes you really fancyable | 11:17 |
| jussi | lol | 11:19 |
| jussi | I was mulling it over anyway | 11:19 |
| jussi | If peoples want me.. :) | 11:19 |
| Riddell | everyone wants you jussi! | 11:20 |
| jussi | well hat is in the ring now :) | 11:21 |
| Riddell | a|wen: you wouldn't want jussi to feel all alone would you? | 11:22 |
| jussi | Riddell: how many spots are we filling? | 11:23 |
| Riddell | three | 11:23 |
| a|wen | not at all ... hi jussi! | 11:23 |
| jussi | hi a|wen | 11:23 |
| Riddell | (that's a hint about putting your name forward for kubuntu council incase you missed it a|wen :) | 11:24 |
| Riddell | txwikinger2 and txwikinger3: you could put both your names forward! | 11:24 |
| * Riddell suspects ScottK is still alergic to the idea | 11:25 | |
| ScottK | Probably, although perhaps less so than in the past. | 11:27 |
| a|wen | (ahh ... sadly I don't have that much time currently, so maybe it shouldn't be this time around) | 11:29 |
| Riddell | a meeting every few weeks isn't much time | 11:29 |
| a|wen | true; but starting new job soon, I've promised myself not to engage in too many new activities, until I find out if there is room for it in the new schedule | 11:31 |
| a|wen | but I'll do my best to still show up at kubuntu meetings and help around | 11:32 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: I don't think that I've been around enough lately to put myself forward. Maybe next time around. | 11:40 |
| Riddell | ScottK: gpsd moved to main | 12:01 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Great. I think I've about got workspace sorted for it. | 12:01 |
| jussi | !info gpsd | 12:03 |
| ubottu | gpsd (source: gpsd): Global Positioning System - daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.92-4 (lucid), package size 88 kB, installed size 208 kB | 12:03 |
| jussi | ahh :) | 12:03 |
| ScottK | Riddell: symbol files for -workspace need fixing and I don't have the time. | 12:11 |
| Riddell | ScottK: just commit to bzr with a large TODO in the changelog | 12:12 |
| Riddell | and comment on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging | 12:12 |
| ScottK | Will do. | 12:13 |
| Riddell | meh, beta 2 release happening today | 12:55 |
| Riddell | neversfelde, lex79: how's kdebase and kdemultimedia? | 12:56 |
| lex79 | kdemultimedia is in ninja | 12:56 |
| Riddell | lovely | 12:56 |
| lex79 | kdebase dunno, neversfelde was on it yesterday | 12:57 |
| * Riddell dist-upgrades | 12:57 | |
| lex79 | Riddell: I still have upgrade, you should see if marble and digikam work | 13:07 |
| lex79 | ah and maybe if kdepim work since I built 4.4.4 against kdepimlibs 4.4.85 | 13:07 |
| Riddell | will do | 13:08 |
| Riddell | also installing lucid so i can test that properly | 13:08 |
| lex79 | ok | 13:08 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: +1 :) | 13:09 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: now you just have to find someone else to nominate themselves and we'll have a council who can make you a member :) | 13:10 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: hehe :P | 13:10 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: what about apachelogger ? | 13:10 |
| Riddell | he's already on | 13:10 |
| Riddell | from last year, still got a year to go | 13:10 |
| shadeslayer | ah ok.. | 13:10 |
| apachelogger | \o/ | 13:11 |
| JontheEchidna | anybody on lucid that can test a few SRU's? | 13:14 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: fire away | 13:14 |
| a|wen | JontheEchidna: sure; and even have a kubuntu lucid VM I'm testing some more stuff in right now | 13:15 |
| JontheEchidna | shadeslayer: bug 578215, install kubuntu-default-settings from lucid-proposed, create a new user, and see if file indexing is disabled in System Settings -> advanced -> semantic desktop | 13:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 578215 in kdebase-runtime (Ubuntu Lucid) "virtuoso-t eats my cpu, should be nice" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/578215 | 13:15 |
| JontheEchidna | nepomuk should still be enabled, but file indexing should be unchecked | 13:15 |
| JontheEchidna | bug 588709: ensure that kpackagekit doesn't depend on kdebase-workspace-bin | 13:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 588709 in kpackagekit (Ubuntu Lucid) "KPackageKit depends on kdebase-workspace-bin uneccessarily" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/588709 | 13:16 |
| JontheEchidna | after apt-get updating after enabling lucid-proposed | 13:16 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: i probably have that package | 13:16 |
| JontheEchidna | just apt-cache show kpackagekit and see if 0.5.4-0ubuntu4.1 depends on kpackagekit | 13:17 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: i have 1:10.04ubuntu23.1 from updates | 13:17 |
| JontheEchidna | shadeslayer: ah, you'll want 1:10.04ubuntu23.2. Must not be there yet | 13:17 |
| shadeslayer | yeah i have proposed enabled.... | 13:17 |
| JontheEchidna | still building and/or waiting to be published | 13:17 |
| JontheEchidna | should be there today | 13:18 |
| rgreening | morning Riddell | 13:18 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: same thing for kpk | 13:18 |
| shadeslayer | i have 0.5.4-0ubuntu4 | 13:18 |
| lex79 | neversfelde: I'm doing kdebase | 13:19 |
| shadeslayer | lex79: hehe :P | 13:20 |
| rgreening | Riddell: whats the fame/power/glory awaiting us? | 13:21 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: btw can i just remove the .kde dir to test it out? | 13:21 |
| JontheEchidna | shadeslayer: yeah | 13:22 |
| Riddell | rgreening: should you put your name forward for the kubuntu council | 13:22 |
| rgreening | umm.. I have a year left.. so I was planning on staying on | 13:22 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: btw there were alread 3 nominations , you,neversfelde and jussi :) | 13:22 |
| shadeslayer | now there are 4 :P | 13:23 |
| Riddell | rgreening: oh aye, never mind the | 13:23 |
| rgreening | Riddell: :) | 13:23 |
| rgreening | I haz the fame power and glory for another 300+ days :) | 13:24 |
| shadeslayer | rgreening: you will probably get re-elected :P | 13:24 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: btw kubuntu members can vote any number of times,right? | 13:25 |
| shadeslayer | for different candidates... | 13:25 |
| Riddell | it'll be a concordant thingy vote | 13:25 |
| maco | Riddell: condorcet? | 13:39 |
| Riddell | maco: could well be | 13:51 |
| maco | silly Riddell | 13:52 |
| * maco hugs | 13:52 | |
| Riddell | lex79: KDE SC works, marble works, digikam works but i can't work out how to get it to use marble | 13:56 |
| lex79 | don't look at me, I dont use that stuff :P | 13:57 |
| Riddell | still no blur behind the transparent plasma bits | 13:57 |
| JontheEchidna | kde bug 240956 | 13:57 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 240956 in compositing "Blur effect loads but doesn't work if FBO status is not GL_FRAMEBUFFER_COMPLETE_EXT" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=240956 | 13:57 |
| lex79 | I'm reuploading kdelibs, kdoctools should depends on kdelibs5-data | 13:58 |
| JontheEchidna | ^the problem intel users are facing | 13:58 |
| lex79 | need to fox kphotoalbum mess | 13:58 |
| lex79 | blur works here with nvidia | 13:58 |
| Riddell | kontact loads but adding an item to the calendar crashes it :( | 13:58 |
| lex79 | kmail? | 13:59 |
| Riddell | I don't know if I have any e-mail accounts to test kmail with | 14:00 |
| maco | Riddell: do you use imap or pop? | 14:00 |
| Riddell | without any accounts I use neither :) | 14:00 |
| maco | you have accounts! | 14:00 |
| maco | if you use imap on one of 'em just, make kmail use that same account with imap | 14:01 |
| maco | like, say, your gmail | 14:01 |
| Riddell | my gmail has too many e-mails in it for kmail to like | 14:01 |
| Riddell | let me try my canonical account | 14:01 |
| jussi | lol | 14:01 |
| * shadeslayer never understood the need to fetch mail on your disk when all of it can be in the ' cloud ' | 14:01 | |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: heh same here :P | 14:02 |
| maco | there's a point where that happens? | 14:02 |
| maco | i delete old mails every 6mo, so i "only" have 665mb in use for my gmail | 14:02 |
| jussi | maco: you abviously havent seen the number of emails in riddels inbox... | 14:02 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: im pulling in the new kubuntu-default-settings now | 14:02 |
| shadeslayer | hehe... | 14:03 |
| maco | it takes about 12 hours to sync when i setup dimap with it on a new computer | 14:03 |
| * jussi remembers seeing it at UDS... | 14:03 | |
| shadeslayer | i could fit all of my mail onto a CD right now :P | 14:03 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: no new kpk | 14:04 |
| Riddell | groovy, kmail works with imap | 14:04 |
| jussi | Riddell: *real* imap? or just dimap? | 14:05 |
| Riddell | real imap | 14:05 |
| jussi | ooh, thats nice!!! | 14:05 |
| Riddell | what do you mean "just dimap" isn't dimap more buggy in general? | 14:05 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: whats dimap? | 14:05 |
| jussi | disconnected imap | 14:05 |
| shadeslayer | hmm.. | 14:05 |
| lex79 | neversfelde: kdebase uploaded | 14:08 |
| maco | Riddell: as long as ive used kde, dimap's been the one that actually works | 14:13 |
| Riddell | hmm, commands freezing on my console | 14:13 |
| maco | Riddell: regular imap crashed kmail if you tried to delete >1 email at a time | 14:13 |
| jussi | yeah, that | 14:14 |
| ghostcube | woah i have over 1 gig in my gmail account o.O | 14:20 |
| ghostcube | need to delete some of them | 14:20 |
| Riddell | ScottK: I'm not seeing a commit from you for kdebase-workspace in bzr | 14:24 |
| ghostcube | ehlo shadeslayer do you run an N900 now too? | 14:29 |
| ghostcube | seen you in maemo :) | 14:29 |
| shadeslayer | ghostcube: hehe :P | 14:29 |
| shadeslayer | ghostcube: no i just saw the maemo announcement and was downloading the ISO :P | 14:29 |
| ghostcube | ah ok :) | 14:29 |
| shadeslayer | brb | 14:30 |
| txwikinger2 | Riddell: why would I do that? :p | 14:32 |
| === txwikinger2 is now known as txwikinger | ||
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: confirmed,strigi is disabled but nepomuk is enabled | 14:36 |
| JontheEchidna | shadeslayer: thanks. please leave a comment on the bug to that effecgt | 14:36 |
| JontheEchidna | *effect | 14:36 |
| shadeslayer | sure.. i dont remember the bug number though :) | 14:36 |
| JontheEchidna | bug 578215 | 14:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 578215 in kdebase-runtime (Ubuntu Lucid) "virtuoso-t eats my cpu, should be nice" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/578215 | 14:36 |
| txwikinger | Riddell: I think we have very good nominations and I am too stretched at the moment | 14:37 |
| * txwikinger needs to rebuild the LoCo | 14:37 | |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: nope not that one :) | 14:37 |
| JontheEchidna | shadeslayer: yeah, that one :) | 14:37 |
| shadeslayer | ok :) | 14:38 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: i thought it was 578215 | 14:38 |
| JontheEchidna | yes... that's what I posted :) | 14:38 |
| shadeslayer | oh right :)D | 14:38 |
| JontheEchidna | brb, rebooting to see if the ldap stuff I did on the server works | 14:40 |
| Riddell | lex79: beta 2 working lovely for lucid | 14:54 |
| txwikinger | Riddell: something wrong with the build system? | 14:56 |
| * txwikinger wonders about those funny failures in the e-mails | 14:56 | |
| Riddell | txwikinger: what build system? | 14:56 |
| txwikinger | Riddell: Launchpad | 14:56 |
| === amichair is now known as amichairo | ||
| Riddell | hum | 14:57 |
| txwikinger | I think it is for ninja-ppas | 14:57 |
| txwikinger | I haven't sent anything up.. just got these e-mails that did not make sense to me | 14:57 |
| * txwikinger needs to go to a meeting | 14:58 | |
| Riddell | too many uploads happening too quick, launchpad gets confused | 14:58 |
| txwikinger | ah | 14:59 |
| * Riddell throws up digikam for lucid to make it even more confused | 14:59 | |
| txwikinger | rofl | 14:59 |
| txwikinger | meeting is delayed :) | 15:00 |
| * shadeslayer gets cracking on Digital Electronics | 15:03 | |
| === shadeslayer is now known as shadeslayer_ | ||
| === amichairo is now known as amichair | ||
| === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna | ||
| Riddell | lex79: you forgot to prune-nonfree in soprano | 15:33 |
| Riddell | lex79, shadeslayer_: I'm going to start uploading to maverick if you guys have no objections | 15:34 |
| shadeslayer_ | Riddell: everything in bzr is good to go imo | 15:34 |
| shadeslayer_ | well.. if lex added the kttsd replaces/conflicts :P | 15:34 |
| Riddell | he did indeed | 15:36 |
| shadeslayer_ | Riddell: awesome :) | 15:36 |
| Riddell | totally awesome | 15:36 |
| ghostcube | is 4.5 already in an ppa? | 15:40 |
| shadeslayer_ | kubotu: np | 15:40 |
| kubotu | shadeslayer_ listened to ""complicated" (avril lavigne)" by Avril Lavigne 13 days ago; [http://open.spotify.com/track/5o4cq6gKFAbR1V7wITwB7n] -- see http://www.last.fm/user/shadeslayer_ for more | 15:40 |
| shadeslayer_ | ghostcube: yes | 15:40 |
| ghostcube | shadeslayer_: which one is it in? | 15:41 |
| ghostcube | havent found it till now :| | 15:41 |
| Riddell | ninjas | 15:41 |
| shadeslayer_ | ghostcube: its in the experimental ppa,use with caution | 15:41 |
| ghostcube | ahh ok | 15:41 |
| ghostcube | :) | 15:41 |
| ghostcube | going to test later ;) | 15:41 |
| ghostcube | thx | 15:41 |
| shadeslayer_ | ghostcube: have fun :) | 15:42 |
| ghostcube | :) | 15:42 |
| shadeslayer_ | ghostcube: you might want to use sudo apt-get -f install to fix stuff :P | 15:42 |
| ghostcube | shadeslayer_: hehe like always :) | 15:42 |
| shadeslayer_ | :P | 15:42 |
| ghostcube | i even use apt-get on my maemo but its not recommended | 15:42 |
| ghostcube | :D | 15:42 |
| ghostcube | hmmm but i bet moving .kde is again the trick :) | 15:43 |
| shadeslayer_ | ghostcube: got a torrent for maemo? | 15:43 |
| * shadeslayer_ wont do the ftp dance again.. | 15:43 | |
| ghostcube | nope i just caught the iso and flashed my nokia | 15:43 |
| ghostcube | sorry | 15:43 |
| shadeslayer_ | ghostcube: oh no problems :) | 15:44 |
| ghostcube | but i may can upload the image if i find it | 15:44 |
| ghostcube | :) | 15:44 |
| shadeslayer_ | ghostcube: well the image is already there on FTP... | 15:44 |
| shadeslayer_ | i want a torrent :P | 15:44 |
| ghostcube | hehe | 15:44 |
| shadeslayer_ | kubotu: np | 15:49 |
| kubotu | shadeslayer_ listened to ""complicated" (avril lavigne)" by Avril Lavigne 13 days ago; [http://open.spotify.com/track/5o4cq6gKFAbR1V7wITwB7n] -- see http://www.last.fm/user/shadeslayer_ for more | 15:49 |
| shadeslayer_ | heh... | 15:49 |
| === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna | ||
| * Riddell ponders between beta and experimental PPA for 4.5 beta 2 lucid | 16:19 | |
| Riddell | it should go in beta all things being to beta quality | 16:19 |
| Riddell | and my test on my netbook here shows it's of good quality | 16:19 |
| Riddell | unlike beta 1 | 16:19 |
| shadeslayer_ | Riddell: awesome,release beta 2 already then :P | 16:22 |
| Riddell | it's being uploaded to maverick now | 16:22 |
| Riddell | still finishing my lucid testing and waiting on digikam to compile | 16:23 |
| shadeslayer_ | Riddell: oh i meant lucid | 16:23 |
| shadeslayer_ | Riddell: hmm... do we care about armel builds? | 16:30 |
| ScottK | Riddell: There's other workspace stuff still needed besides the symbol file stuff. | 16:32 |
| shadeslayer_ | bah.. nvm | 16:33 |
| ScottK | Working on it. | 16:33 |
| shadeslayer_ | ScottK: btw i nominated you for KC,hope your ok with that | 16:33 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer_: I am. | 16:35 |
| shadeslayer_ | :) | 16:35 |
| Riddell | for asdf in attica cmake digikam eigen2 gluon kde4libs kdeaccessibility kdeadmin kdeartwork kdebase kdebase-runtime kdebase-workspace kdebindings kdeedu kdegames kdegraphics kdemultimedia kdenetwork kdepimlibs kdeplasma-addons kdesdk kdetoys kdeutils kdevelop kdevplatform kdewebdev libmsn meta-kde oxygen-icons phonon pkg-kde-tools python-qt4 qscintilla2 qt4-x11 qtcreator qtwebkit shared-desktop-ontologies sip4-qt3 soprano; do echo ${asdf}; copy-pa | 16:36 |
| Riddell | that should keep it busy | 16:36 |
| nixternal | Riddell: I had the fame, the power, and the glory...actually I like to think I did, but anyways, I have been on the KC already, let new people in...nobody wants the second longest kubuntu developer anyways | 16:37 |
| lex79 | Riddell: did you fix soprano? | 16:38 |
| Riddell | lex79: I removed the .jars from the .orig | 16:38 |
| lex79 | kk | 16:39 |
| Riddell | ** testers needed for KDE SC 4.5 beta 2 on 10.04 | 16:40 |
| shadeslayer_ | Riddell: where is it located? | 16:40 |
| jussi | o/ | 16:40 |
| jussi | exactly, where is it... | 16:40 |
| jussi | :D | 16:40 |
| gorgonizer | willing to test as well | 16:40 |
| shadeslayer_ | jussi: :P | 16:41 |
| shadeslayer_ | jussi: probably in beta ppa :) | 16:41 |
| rbelem | Riddell, i'm installing now :-) | 16:41 |
| Riddell | rbelem: from ninjas? | 16:41 |
| shadeslayer_ | rbelem: from where? | 16:41 |
| rbelem | from ninjas :-) | 16:41 |
| Riddell | it's being copied into kubuntu-ppa/beta but it's not done yet | 16:41 |
| jussi | right, please let us know when its doen :) | 16:42 |
| * jussi has a nice bottle of this... http://farm1.static.flickr.com/9/12301861_26fdf19bc9.jpg looks like till be a nice night :D | 16:45 | |
| Riddell | what is it? | 16:45 |
| jussi | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cut_brandy | 16:48 |
| jussi | Ive the 3 star stuff though :D | 16:48 |
| Riddell | hmm, maverick getting quite broken | 16:55 |
| ScottK | Riddell: X stuff? | 16:56 |
| Trouble | I didn't realise 4.5 beta 2 had been packaged for 10.04! | 16:56 |
| Trouble | I was keeping an eye on the Wiki | 16:56 |
| Trouble | Downloading and installing now... | 16:56 |
| Riddell | ScottK: lower, processes stop responding | 16:57 |
| ScottK | Ouch. | 16:57 |
| Riddell | Trouble: it's not announced yet. where are you downloading from? | 16:57 |
| Trouble | Ninjas | 16:58 |
| jussi | so am I now allowed to say "well here's Trouble..." :P ? | 16:59 |
| Trouble | Only if I cause a fuss :-p | 16:59 |
| shadeslayer_ | jussi: rofl | 16:59 |
| shadeslayer_ | Riddell: akonadi wont upgrade with dist upgrade as of now.. from beta ppa | 17:00 |
| Trouble | I thought 4.5 beta 2 hasn't finished copying to beta ppa yet? | 17:01 |
| shadeslayer_ | Trouble: it isnt.. | 17:01 |
| shadeslayer_ | im just saying :) | 17:01 |
| Trouble | :-p | 17:01 |
| Riddell | it'll need the new qt | 17:03 |
| shadeslayer | heh get this,India is carrying out a census and all of us will get a Unique ID,and guess who is handling the backend for storage and stuff... | 17:04 |
| Riddell | we'll never know | 17:05 |
| lex79 | lol | 17:06 |
| shadeslayer | lex79: eh? | 17:07 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: we're all waiting to find out who's running the census | 17:07 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: ah.. | 17:08 |
| lex79 | :) | 17:08 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: Microsoft :P | 17:08 |
| Riddell | boo | 17:08 |
| shadeslayer | Now all my personal info is in the hands of people whom i dont trust :P | 17:08 |
| Riddell | kubuntu-ppa/beta should be published now | 17:09 |
| Riddell | who wants to try it out? | 17:09 |
| lex79 | Riddell: you need to upload meta-kde first... | 17:09 |
| lex79 | maybe eh | 17:09 |
| Trouble | Installed.... Rebooting... | 17:09 |
| Riddell | meta-kde - 5:62ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa3 is in | 17:09 |
| Riddell | Trouble: really? that was suspiciously fast | 17:10 |
| gorgonizer | Riddell: installling now from the Bate PPA. | 17:10 |
| rbelem | Riddell, are the packages the same from ninjas? | 17:10 |
| Trouble | JANET ;-) | 17:10 |
| lex79 | ah I mean in maverick, but you already uploaded, nevermind | 17:10 |
| Trouble | Downloading took seconds | 17:10 |
| Riddell | rbelem: yes | 17:10 |
| Trouble | Riddell: Installing took a little longer | 17:11 |
| Trouble | Anyway brb (hopefully) | 17:11 |
| shadeslayer | stupid irssi and my net connection.... | 17:12 |
| shadeslayer | packages are in beta ppa :) | 17:13 |
| mfraz74 | at the moment it is saying i need to remove 14 packages | 17:14 |
| Trouble | Oooo this is nice | 17:14 |
| Riddell | mfraz74: can you pastebin those? | 17:14 |
| Riddell | Trouble: yay! | 17:14 |
| shadeslayer | seems to be working fine here :) | 17:14 |
| mfraz74 | http://pastebin.com/NXq7aHxW | 17:15 |
| shadeslayer | mine is http://www.kubuntu.pastebin.com/VTPxrzDe | 17:15 |
| ScottK | Riddell: In kinfocenter, it seems just to have the files listed in kinfocenter.install.linux and not the ones in kinfocenter.install. (this is workspace). I can't see why that would be. Could you have a look? | 17:16 |
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| Riddell | mfraz74: that's all good, they're all packages which have gone away, carry on | 17:16 |
| mfraz74 | riddell: OK thanks | 17:16 |
| mfraz74 | updating | 17:17 |
| Trouble | I'm liking the new system tray icons | 17:17 |
| jussi | hrm... | 17:18 |
| jussi | its trying to remove xbmc... | 17:18 |
| jussi | freespacenotifier kdebase-plasma kdepimlibs-data kdesnake libkfontinst4 libkonqsidebarplugin4 libkwineffects1 libmarble4 libplasma-applet-system-monitor4 libplasmaclock4 | 17:18 |
| jussi | libprocesscore4 libprocessui4 libqt4-assistant libqt4-phonon libsmokekde4-3 libtaskmanager4 libweather-ion4 plasma-widget-daisy plasma-widget-smooth-tasks xbmc xbmc-data | 17:18 |
| jussi | xbmc-skin-confluence xbmc-web | 17:18 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: 0_o | 17:19 |
| DarthFrog | Ouch. | 17:19 |
| shadeslayer | i wonder what would have a conflict with xbmc.... | 17:19 |
| Riddell | what is xbmc? | 17:19 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: its a media center app | 17:19 |
| shadeslayer | like windows media center | 17:19 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: xBox Media Center :P | 17:20 |
| jussi | and why is smooth tasks going away? is it now integrated? | 17:20 |
| mfraz74 | hope it fixes the odd problems i've been having with device notifyer | 17:20 |
| Riddell | my apt-cache knows nothing about it | 17:20 |
| shtylman | if I have a .so.#.#.# that I ship in some package... what/where/how do I make the symlink from just the .so -> .so.#.#.# ? | 17:20 |
| shtylman | is that in the post install script? | 17:21 |
| shtylman | or does the symlink also get packaged up? | 17:21 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: yeah theres a seprate ppa forit | 17:21 |
| Riddell | shtylman: the build system will make the symlink | 17:21 |
| shtylman | and ship in the .deb | 17:21 |
| shadeslayer | shtylman: in the install file | 17:21 |
| shtylman | gotcha.. so I need to make the buildsystem make a symlink on 'install' basically | 17:22 |
| Riddell | shtylman: the buildsystem will make the symlink when it makes the library | 17:22 |
| shtylman | Riddell: depends on the buildsystem right? | 17:22 |
| Riddell | assuming the buildsystem is at all sane and it really is a shared library and not a plugin or whatever | 17:22 |
| shtylman | right | 17:22 |
| tsimpson | it should also make the .so.# so apps can link at runtime | 17:23 |
| DarthFrog | I just added the backports-beta-ppa repo. Now I have 104 blocked updates. :-) | 17:24 |
| mfraz74 | darthfrog: how are you trying to update? | 17:24 |
| DarthFrog | kpackagekit | 17:25 |
| jussi | downloading and installing beta2 now | 17:25 |
| mfraz74 | darthfrog: try from konsole | 17:25 |
| DarthFrog | mfraz74: I will, as soon as the security updates are finished. | 17:26 |
| Trouble | Updating my Kubuntu NetBook to 4.5 beta 2 :) | 17:29 |
| DarthFrog | Hmm, it wants to remove kdebase-plasma | 17:29 |
| Riddell | DarthFrog: that's fine | 17:29 |
| rbelem | it is working fine here :-) | 17:30 |
| Trouble | The new notifications is pretty cool | 17:31 |
| DarthFrog | Riddell: The list of packages to be removed is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/447284/ Is this correct? | 17:31 |
| Riddell | ScottK: may not have time for kdebase today a but I can get to it soon | 17:32 |
| ScottK | OK. I'll see if I can figure something out. | 17:32 |
| Riddell | ScottK: where's the launchpad product for bugs in our PPA packages? | 17:32 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I do have workspace changes. Should I just upload those to the public PPA and push them in bzr when they're ready? | 17:32 |
| Riddell | ScottK: I'd rather not change PPA packages now, they're working and about to be announced, just put in bzr and when ready maverick | 17:33 |
| ScottK | Riddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa | 17:34 |
| ScottK | OK. | 17:34 |
| ScottK | It'd be nice if someone who normally does triage like txwikinger would subscribe to the bugs there. | 17:34 |
| txwikinger | ScottK: ok | 17:34 |
| ScottK | Thanksl | 17:34 |
| ScottK | Thanks even | 17:34 |
| mfraz74 | i see the chooserhosts line in kdmrc has been cleaned up a bit | 17:35 |
| shadeslayer | even kpk doesnt block any update now :D | 17:37 |
| mfraz74 | updates installed, suppose i have to log out and back in to see the differences? | 17:40 |
| Riddell | mfraz74: yes please | 17:40 |
| mfraz74 | here goes then | 17:40 |
| Riddell | how's this? http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.5-beta-2 | 17:40 |
| mfraz74 | see you on the other side | 17:40 |
| DarthFrog | "crack of the week". :-))))))) | 17:41 |
| jussi | right. installed, now to restart kde. brb... | 17:44 |
| shadeslayer | heh.. no one updated #kubuntu with the 4.4.4 release :P | 17:47 |
| jussi | nice icons... has someone go a link to the changelog? | 17:47 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: i can get you the changelog for 4.4.80 | 17:48 |
| neversfelde | lex79: thank you | 17:48 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: perfect | 17:48 |
| shadeslayer | since 4.4.85 is yet to be released :P | 17:48 |
| mfraz74 | kmail: error while loading shared libraries: libkontactinterface.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | 17:48 |
| mfraz74 | also, can't seem to right click on most of the icons in the system tray | 17:49 |
| jussi | yeah, amarok and kopete dont right click | 17:50 |
| shadeslayer | ok i have a really crappy connection so im signing off until it gets better :P | 17:50 |
| jussi | nor does kmix | 17:51 |
| mfraz74 | can't launch anything to do with kontact | 17:51 |
| DarthFrog | Well, so far, so good. The machine booted. :-) | 17:52 |
| Riddell | mfraz74: bah, I didn't copy kdepim | 17:53 |
| Riddell | let me do that now | 17:53 |
| mfraz74 | looks like kdepimlibs5 hasn't been upgraded | 17:53 |
| ScottK | mfraz74: By design. | 17:53 |
| mfraz74 | doh | 17:53 |
| ScottK | mfraz74: pimlibs and pim won't get updated until 4.5.1. | 17:53 |
| mfraz74 | scottk: no emails mean nothing to distract us? | 17:53 |
| ScottK | No, just keep using the 4.4 ones and it should work fine. | 17:53 |
| jussi | mfraz74: kontact is borked here also | 17:53 |
| mfraz74 | scottk: how do we work around this then? | 17:54 |
| Riddell | kdepim won't work, needs the new 4.4.4 ones, copyingnow | 17:54 |
| ScottK | There you go. | 17:54 |
| mfraz74 | thanks jr | 17:54 |
| mfraz74 | regarding the new icons, they look odd with some of the older ones there too | 17:55 |
| mfraz74 | anything we can do to fix the right click menus? | 17:55 |
| DarthFrog | the new icons seem somewhat ... colourless. | 17:55 |
| mfraz74 | darthfrog: yes, even moreso with choqok's bright green icon | 17:56 |
| Riddell | mfraz74: systray menus are agateau's area but he seems away for the day | 17:56 |
| Riddell | I think the colourless icons are the "give them something trivial to complain about so they don't notice the rest is perfect" approach | 17:57 |
| DarthFrog | In "Desktop Settings/Wallpaper/Slideshow" the Up/Down arrows for "Change Images ..." doesn't have any effect other than to give focus to the input field. | 17:58 |
| mfraz74 | riddell: like moving the icons in ubuntu? ;) | 17:58 |
| Riddell | DarthFrog: upstream bug | 17:58 |
| DarthFrog | No big deal. | 17:59 |
| mfraz74 | just had a plasma crash | 17:59 |
| mfraz74 | black screen after using quick launch | 18:00 |
| mfraz74 | plasma-desktop[3105]: segfault at c ip 004934a8 sp bf98e0f0 error 4 in libkio.so.5.5.0[37c000+270000] | 18:01 |
| ScottK | DarthFrog: Be sure to file the bug. | 18:01 |
| Riddell | mfraz74: hmm, same here | 18:02 |
| DarthFrog | OK, shall do. | 18:02 |
| mfraz74 | riddell: how do I get the desktop back? | 18:02 |
| * txwikinger thinks he is on the wrong mailing lists | 18:03 | |
| ScottK | mfraz74: Do you happen to have a konsole window open? | 18:03 |
| mfraz74 | no, but alt-f2 still works, now have konsole | 18:04 |
| ScottK | OK. | 18:04 |
| Riddell | run plasma-desktop | 18:04 |
| ScottK | Doing this from the VT would have been fine too ^^^ | 18:05 |
| mfraz74 | got it back | 18:06 |
| mfraz74 | what does the + symbol do on folders when using folder view? | 18:07 |
| mfraz74 | ok, figured it out now | 18:08 |
| Riddell | mfraz74: kdepim is up | 18:08 |
| mfraz74 | thanks | 18:09 |
| mfraz74 | looks like the quick access thingy is broken | 18:10 |
| === bulldog is now known as bulldog98 | ||
| jussi | looks like kde pim all works now | 18:11 |
| mfraz74 | yes, working now | 18:13 |
| mfraz74 | removing 'quick access' until it is working | 18:15 |
| DarthFrog | Is there a proper name for the Up/Down arrows in an input box? | 18:19 |
| Riddell | bulldog98, debfx: I see rekonq has a new beta out, any chance of packages for maverick? | 18:20 |
| Riddell | preferably using debfx's current packaging | 18:20 |
| Riddell | gorgonizer: how did it go? | 18:20 |
| lex79 | Riddell: don't upload digikam to maverick, there's a new version, I'm going to packaging | 18:21 |
| mfraz74 | darthfrog: bump icons? | 18:22 |
| Riddell | lex79: I did hear rumours of 1.3, it needs kdegraphics from 4.5 beta 2 | 18:22 |
| mfraz74 | digikam 1.3 is out | 18:22 |
| bulldog98 | Riddell: I copyed his package behavior now in the PPA | 18:22 |
| lex79 | Riddell: I know I'm doing | 18:22 |
| bulldog98 | I think it’s build now | 18:23 |
| Riddell | bulldog98: so packages of 0.4.95 will be in your PPA? | 18:23 |
| mfraz74 | any idea why when using application laucher, items in games show their description not their name? | 18:23 |
| bulldog98 | Riddell: with the addition of +git… | 18:23 |
| gorgonizer | seems excellent so far, no overwirte issues during install, boot up seems fine | 18:24 |
| gorgonizer | just checking the general desktop now, my desktop widgets have been resized, but that is a non-issue really.. | 18:24 |
| Riddell | bulldog98: would you be able to do a source package with the 0.4.95 release tar to be uploaded? | 18:26 |
| bulldog98 | Riddell: think so | 18:27 |
| txwikinger | ScottK: Does KNR use a different login than Kubuntu? | 18:29 |
| ScottK | txwikinger: No. | 18:29 |
| ScottK | KDM is the same. | 18:29 |
| txwikinger | hmm.. that is odd.. on my netbook, it takes 5 secs until the login widget disappears after I hit enter | 18:29 |
| ScottK | mgraesslin: I forwarded your last message to the ayatana list. I agree there's not much point in continuing the conversation. | 18:29 |
| txwikinger | I never saw that on a desktop | 18:29 |
| ScottK | txwikinger: There is an issue with plasma-netbook startup that we need to loo into. | 18:30 |
| ScottK | loo/look | 18:30 |
| txwikinger | ah | 18:30 |
| mgraesslin | yes thanks | 18:31 |
| mgraesslin | it's a lost war | 18:31 |
| bulldog98 | Riddell: no tarball out by now | 18:34 |
| bulldog98 | will ask for | 18:34 |
| mfraz74 | another plasma crash - clicked on the next month icon in the digital clock calendar | 18:35 |
| lex79 | soyuz seems really busy today, we have a low build score | 18:36 |
| Riddell | bulldog98: what's this then? http://opendesktop.org/content/show.php?content=94258 | 18:37 |
| bulldog98 | Riddell: thought adamj would first publish it on gitorious or sourceforge | 18:37 |
| bulldog98 | Riddell: the translations are missing in the tarball | 18:42 |
| gorgonizer | Riddell et al: cheers for the 4.4.85 packages, appear to be working without a hitch, highly impressed in comparison to 4.4.80... | 18:43 |
| mfraz74 | should i have items in the lost and found section of system settings? | 18:43 |
| Riddell | bulldog98: oh tsk to adamj | 18:44 |
| Riddell | gorgonizer: lovely thanks | 18:44 |
| Riddell | mfraz74: no but it's a known issue | 18:45 |
| jussi | Does anyone know what binary is called when you lock the desktop? (ctrl+alt+L) ie. how would you call that from the CLI? (if possible)? | 18:45 |
| Riddell | anyone able to publish the story when kde releases? | 18:49 |
| Riddell | I'm going out for an hour | 18:49 |
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| bulldog98 | debfx: If we release rekonq in main it would be usefull to add an dbg package to it, wouldn’t it? | 18:51 |
| sushilcha | jussi: i think "qdbus org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver /ScreenSaver Lock" is called | 18:54 |
| jussi | sushilcha: thanks | 18:54 |
| neversfelde | Riddell: I can publish | 19:01 |
| debfx | bulldog98: it already has a debug package (in debian) | 19:04 |
| bulldog98 | debfx: so adding the debug package in kubuntu would be good | 19:04 |
| === shadesla1er is now known as shadeslayer | ||
| lex79 | JontheEchidna: around for an upload? | 19:22 |
| JontheEchidna | lex79: yep | 19:23 |
| lex79 | JontheEchidna: kdeaccessibility from bzr, thanks | 19:23 |
| lex79 | JontheEchidna: also kdeedu if you can, I forgot to add conflicts/replace for libmarblewidget10 | 19:29 |
| lex79 | now it's fixed | 19:29 |
| lex79 | :( | 19:29 |
| JontheEchidna | kk' | 19:29 |
| txwikinger | Is it normal that kdeinit4 uses 3856M virt and 772M res ? | 19:30 |
| neversfelde | seems that we are the early bird on LinuxTag http://www.flickr.com/photos/37728609@N00/4683657018/ | 19:32 |
| txwikinger | well.. is konsole I guess.. but still | 19:32 |
| bulldog98 | neversfelde: hey tomorrow I’ll be there too | 19:34 |
| shadeslayer | neversfelde: wheres linux tag this year? | 19:34 |
| neversfelde | :) | 19:34 |
| neversfelde | shadeslayer: in Berlin | 19:34 |
| shadeslayer | :'( | 19:35 |
| shadeslayer | My dad is coming next week... i should have applied for a visa too :P | 19:35 |
| shadeslayer | s/coming/going to berlin | 19:35 |
| neversfelde | hehe, yes you should have done | 19:36 |
| neversfelde | well, as always I cannot go there either | 19:36 |
| shadeslayer | there never seem to be any FOSS events in india :| | 19:36 |
| shadeslayer | btw canonical is having a buisness promo meet thingy in UK | 19:37 |
| neversfelde | you have to organize an event then :) | 19:37 |
| neversfelde | and invite me | 19:37 |
| shadeslayer | only 60 or so free tickets left :P | 19:37 |
| shadeslayer | neversfelde: sure sure :D | 19:38 |
| === rdieter is now known as rdieter_ | ||
| shadeslayer | Riddell: doesnt shiptit send any stickers with CD's anymore? | 19:39 |
| === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter | ||
| shadeslayer | kde api is back online :D | 19:54 |
| shadeslayer | lex79: btw the right click on systray is disabled.. packaging error or upstream problem? | 19:59 |
| lex79 | it works here | 19:59 |
| shadeslayer | lex79: on a app as well? like amarok | 20:00 |
| lex79 | I didn't try with amarok, but with other apps work | 20:00 |
| shadeslayer | im still upgrading,someone in #kubuntu asked :) | 20:00 |
| gorgonizer | I am having that issue.. | 20:00 |
| shadeslayer | gorgonizer: raindog in #kubuntu has same issue | 20:01 |
| gorgonizer | though I have found that KDEBluetooth responds to a left then middle click.. | 20:01 |
| shadeslayer | hehe :P | 20:02 |
| * shadeslayer still has 3 hours till full upgrade | 20:02 | |
| gorgonizer | shadeslayer: oh, unlucky.. | 20:02 |
| shadeslayer | the speed is jumpy.... reaches as high as 1 MBps and then drops to 9 KBps :P | 20:03 |
| neversfelde | shall I publish the 4.5 beta2 story on kubuntu.org or is someone else already doing it? | 20:05 |
| shadeslayer | neversfelde: already done | 20:05 |
| shadeslayer | hmm wait | 20:06 |
| neversfelde | shadeslayer: well, it is not available on latest news? | 20:06 |
| shadeslayer | yeah :P | 20:06 |
| neversfelde | and it shouldn't be done befor it is released | 20:06 |
| shadeslayer | i thought that when the page got prepped it was published :P | 20:06 |
| bulldog98 | shadeslayer: only in PPA? | 20:07 |
| shadeslayer | bulldog98: eh? | 20:07 |
| bulldog98 | shadeslayer: haven’t got that update till now in maverick | 20:08 |
| shadeslayer | bulldog98: oh thats because kdelibs and kdebase is building till now and all other packages failed :P | 20:08 |
| shadeslayer | probably | 20:08 |
| shadeslayer | lex79: weird.. kdebase 4.4.85 is not even uploaded :D | 20:10 |
| lex79 | in maverick? | 20:10 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 20:10 |
| neversfelde | story is on promoted to front page | 20:11 |
| neversfelde | was already published | 20:11 |
| neversfelde | -on | 20:12 |
| lex79 | Riddell: when you come back, kdebase, oxygen-icons, kdepim-runtime and kdepim still need upload | 20:14 |
| * shadeslayer gives +1 to KDE for running the laptop kooler | 20:16 | |
| shadeslayer | might be the .35 kernel... but hey KDE deserves some love :P | 20:16 |
| shadeslayer | in other news Gnome 3.0 will probably suck big time since they dropped GAJ and libclutter | 20:18 |
| lex79 | JontheEchidna: now plasma script is very buggy, if you add a widget on the desktop and then restart plasma you lose the widget and other plasma settings | 20:18 |
| lex79 | :) | 20:19 |
| shadeslayer | lex79: thats because plasma doesnt get time to store the settings | 20:19 |
| shadeslayer | lex79: i had this issue sometime before :) | 20:19 |
| lex79 | uhm strange didn't see before | 20:20 |
| shadeslayer | on the other hand if you quit plasma manually with kquitapp plasma-desktop it does write the config and everything is fluffy :P | 20:20 |
| lex79 | nope, I tried | 20:21 |
| shadeslayer | hmm then that is a bug :P | 20:22 |
| shadeslayer | lex79: which widget btw? | 20:22 |
| lex79 | all | 20:22 |
| shadeslayer | in beta 2? | 20:23 |
| lex79 | yes | 20:23 |
| JontheEchidna | lex79: go to the cashew and click activities | 20:25 |
| shadeslayer | lex79: folderview causes plasma to crash in 4.4.80 here | 20:25 |
| JontheEchidna | they might be in a different activity | 20:25 |
| lex79 | O.o | 20:26 |
| shadeslayer | lex79: multiple activities? | 20:26 |
| lex79 | yes | 20:26 |
| shadeslayer | hehe :) | 20:26 |
| lex79 | 13 | 20:26 |
| lex79 | lol | 20:26 |
| shadeslayer | \o/ | 20:26 |
| JontheEchidna | that goes back to the issue we were having yesterday, where both KDE"s default desktop script and our desktop script run | 20:27 |
| jjesse | you have 13 activities? | 20:27 |
| shadeslayer | ah.. i have 5 of them too :P | 20:27 |
| lex79 | JontheEchidna: that script creates new activities by default too ? | 20:27 |
| JontheEchidna | yes, it creates 1 activity | 20:28 |
| lex79 | ah that explain my 13 activities | 20:28 |
| JontheEchidna | I'm betting the widgets you added are somewhere in those | 20:29 |
| lex79 | yep | 20:30 |
| shadeslayer | lex79: does the quick browser plasmoid work in the taskbar? | 20:30 |
| lex79 | plasma crashes if click on it | 20:30 |
| shadeslayer | dang :( | 20:30 |
| lex79 | it needs some love | 20:30 |
| shadeslayer | lex79: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=240094 | 20:31 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 240094 in general "[Plasma] Panel crash when using QuickAccess Browser" [Crash,Resolved: downstream] | 20:31 |
| shadeslayer | idk how thats resolved :P | 20:32 |
| shadeslayer | j #launchpad | 20:34 |
| * shadeslayer now haz new ubuntu font | 20:39 | |
| gorgonizer | shadeslayer: I think they resolved that bug as they see ti as a thrid party widget and not their issue :) | 20:40 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 20:40 |
| neversfelde | wow, updated my lucid with the 4.4.85 packages, no problems | 20:41 |
| neversfelde | good job, I'd say :) | 20:41 |
| shadeslayer | neversfelde: whee :D | 20:41 |
| lex79 | neversfelde: obviously, you know | 20:42 |
| lex79 | :P | 20:42 |
| shadeslayer | zomg.... ubuntu beta font+KDE== awesome :P | 20:42 |
| Tm_T | shadeslayer: what font where? | 20:44 |
| shadeslayer | Tm_T: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/06/new-ubuntu-font-how-to-download-it-but.html | 20:45 |
| Tm_T | shadeslayer: thanks | 20:45 |
| shadeslayer | Tm_T: no problems,it looks good at some places,but webpages are no go | 20:45 |
| Tm_T | hmm, that kind of thing, no thanks for me ): | 20:46 |
| shadeslayer | a bit blurry too :P | 20:46 |
| Riddell | yo, what did I miss | 20:47 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: I hope you did miss me for a second | 20:51 |
| * Tm_T hides | 20:51 | |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: 00:44 < lex79> Riddell: when you come back, kdebase, oxygen-icons, kdepim-runtime and kdepim still need upload | 20:51 |
| Riddell | yeah, my computer keeps freezing before oxygen icons can be uploaded :( | 20:52 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: totally | 20:52 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: either you need a new computer or the computer needs a new you :P | 20:53 |
| shadeslayer | brb | 20:55 |
| neversfelde | shadeslayer: I have no disabled right click | 21:04 |
| shadeslayer | neversfelde: eh? i dont understand... | 21:05 |
| neversfelde | shadeslayer: didn't you talk about a disabled right click in 4.4.85 before? | 21:06 |
| shadeslayer | neversfelde: yes i did,but gorgonizer had the issue | 21:06 |
| shadeslayer | as did raindog in #kubuntu | 21:06 |
| shadeslayer | im still upgrading... lex79 doesnt seem to have it though | 21:06 |
| neversfelde | I lost all my plasma Settings, might be realted to a dual monitor setup | 21:08 |
| === shadeslayer is now known as shadeslayer_ | ||
| neversfelde | note to myself, do not upgrade, if you are a kontact user | 21:16 |
| neversfelde | I guess it is a known problem that kontact is not starting with 4.4.85? | 21:16 |
| neversfelde | or does it need a rebauild? | 21:16 |
| neversfelde | rebuild | 21:16 |
| neversfelde | kmail: error while loading shared libraries: libkontactinterface.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | 21:17 |
| shadeslayer_ | neversfelde: kontact is still stuck at 4.4.3 or something | 21:17 |
| shadeslayer_ | yeah.. 4.4.4 | 21:18 |
| shadeslayer_ | it will be released after 1 month or so after kde 4.5 release ;) | 21:18 |
| neversfelde | yes I know | 21:18 |
| neversfelde | so 4.4.4 Kontact does not work with 4.4.85? | 21:19 |
| shadeslayer_ | dont think so... | 21:19 |
| shadeslayer_ | but i might be wrong.... | 21:20 |
| txwikinger | only kontact or also kmail etc? | 21:21 |
| neversfelde | also kmai | 21:21 |
| neversfelde | l | 21:21 |
| shadeslayer_ | neversfelde: btw wheres the option in kmail to leave the mail on the server? | 21:25 |
| neversfelde | use IMAP :) | 21:25 |
| shadeslayer_ | ok | 21:26 |
| shadeslayer_ | thats what im using :P | 21:26 |
| neversfelde | I do not know anything about the pop protocoll and kmal | 21:26 |
| shadeslayer_ | sending is via SMTP | 21:26 |
| neversfelde | so everything should be left on the server when using IMAP? | 21:26 |
| shadeslayer_ | ok.. ive never used kmail before :P | 21:27 |
| neversfelde | should be the same with every other client | 21:32 |
| * txwikinger does not suggest IMAP.. rather use disconnected IMAP | 21:33 | |
| shadeslayer_ | neversfelde: ive never used imap/smtp before,i usually check mail online :P | 21:34 |
| neversfelde | txwikinger: I use dis IMAP on my laptop and IMAP on my desktop | 21:37 |
| neversfelde | works fine | 21:37 |
| neversfelde | well, so far :) | 21:37 |
| shadeslayer_ | neversfelde: why do i get Cannot open file "/home/shadeslayer/.kde/share/apps/kmail/imap/478154403": | 21:37 |
| shadeslayer_ | No such file or directory | 21:38 |
| neversfelde | dunno | 21:38 |
| shadeslayer_ | neversfelde: whats the diff. between the two? | 21:38 |
| txwikinger | I haven't tried IMAP since last October, but before that I had losts of problems until I went to dis IMAP | 21:38 |
| neversfelde | ah, I found the right click problem | 21:39 |
| lex79 | weird, kmail and kontact work here | 21:39 |
| lex79 | in maverick | 21:40 |
| neversfelde | no context menu when clicking on the amarok icon in tray | 21:40 |
| neversfelde | lex79: a rebuild is needed? | 21:40 |
| lex79 | for amarok? | 21:41 |
| neversfelde | lex79: no kdepim | 21:41 |
| lex79 | uhm kdepim and kdepim-runtime 4.4.4 are already built against 4.4.85 | 21:41 |
| neversfelde | mhh | 21:41 |
| lex79 | neversfelde: are you in lucid or maverick? | 21:42 |
| neversfelde | lex79: this is lucid | 21:42 |
| txwikinger | in 4.4.2 it works | 21:42 |
| neversfelde | with 4.4.85 from beta backports | 21:42 |
| lex79 | neversfelde: check the version of kdepim and kdepim-runtime that you have installed | 21:43 |
| lex79 | or the version of kmail and kontact | 21:44 |
| neversfelde | lex79: kdepim-runtime is Installiert: 4:4.4.4-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa1 | 21:44 |
| neversfelde | and for kmail the same | 21:44 |
| neversfelde | so something else is wrong | 21:45 |
| lex79 | ls /usr/lib/libkontactinterface.so.4 | 21:46 |
| lex79 | what show? | 21:46 |
| neversfelde | if I am not the only one with this problem, we should probably display a warning on kubuntu.org | 21:46 |
| neversfelde | lex79: No such file or directory | 21:47 |
| lex79 | strange, do you have kdempilibs5 installed? | 21:47 |
| shadeslayer_ | neversfelde: kontact is working on lucid + 4.4.80 :) | 21:47 |
| neversfelde | lex79: yes, 4:4.4.85-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa2 | 21:48 |
| * shadeslayer_ wonders where kontact goes after minimizing | 21:49 | |
| lex79 | I wrong something in kdepimlibs, wait | 21:50 |
| shadeslayer_ | lex79: missing .so in install file? | 21:50 |
| lex79 | no | 21:50 |
| shadeslayer_ | then? | 21:50 |
| lex79 | uhm? | 21:51 |
| lex79 | neversfelde: do you have libkontactinterface4 installed? | 21:51 |
| shadeslayer_ | heh... getting 4MBps down now :P | 21:52 |
| neversfelde | lex79: no | 21:53 |
| neversfelde | and after installing it | 21:53 |
| neversfelde | kontact: error while loading shared libraries: libakonadi-contact.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | 21:53 |
| lex79 | I'm going to fix the mess | 21:53 |
| ScottK | lex79: I'm working on an update to -workspace. | 21:54 |
| lex79 | ScottK: ok | 21:54 |
| neversfelde | lex79: after installing libakonadi-contact4 everything works fine | 21:55 |
| Trouble_ | I'd like to make a complaint... Beta 2 is a little buggy :-p | 21:55 |
| shadeslayer_ | Trouble_: :) | 21:55 |
| Trouble_ | :-p | 21:55 |
| shadeslayer_ | Trouble_: we can see that :P,but its less buggy than beta 1 | 21:56 |
| lex79 | neversfelde: ok, thanks, I'll upload kdepimlibs to ppa shortly | 21:56 |
| shadeslayer_ | good thing we didnt release it in -beta or else there would have been a ton of problems | 21:56 |
| Trouble_ | lol | 21:57 |
| shadeslayer_ | neversfelde: how do i restore kontact :P | 21:58 |
| neversfelde | lex79: thanks for fixing it and again thanks for uploading kdebase, I did not get to it because I missed a test | 21:58 |
| neversfelde | shadeslayer_: restore? | 21:58 |
| lex79 | no problem | 21:58 |
| shadeslayer_ | neversfelde: like i minimized/clicked the x at the top,and now i cant see it anywhere,the notifier still shows that its running rhough | 21:58 |
| shadeslayer_ | *though | 21:59 |
| neversfelde | shadeslayer_: you should configure kmail to be present in the try everytime | 21:59 |
| neversfelde | s/try/tray | 21:59 |
| Trouble_ | Thanks for packaging beta 2 btw! I don't think any of you get enough thanks! | 22:00 |
| shadeslayer_ | Trouble_: we did package beta 1 too,just didnt release it officially :P | 22:01 |
| shadeslayer_ | neversfelde: thanks :D | 22:02 |
| Trouble_ | shadeslayer_: Thank you for that too :-p | 22:03 |
| shadeslayer_ | hehe :D | 22:03 |
| Trouble_ | I did notice you packaging beta 1, didn't realise it was complete | 22:03 |
| Trouble_ | Glad I didn't install it tho' :-p | 22:03 |
| Trouble_ | Beta 2 is alright really | 22:03 |
| shadeslayer_ | yeah.. | 22:04 |
| Trouble_ | 4.4.4 Netbook was pretty buggy for me anyway, so I'm sure 4.5 beta 2 is an improvement :-p | 22:07 |
| shadeslayer_ | btw https://edge.launchpad.net/rekonq needs more info :P | 22:32 |
| === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk | ||
| EagleScreen | anyone has test Kubuntu + webkit in KDE 4.5? it is suposed to work, this could be a better choice than switch to Rekonq | 22:47 |
| EagleScreen | I mean webkit in Konqueror 4.5 | 22:48 |
| shadeslayer_ | EagleScreen: it does work but your late :P | 22:48 |
| shadeslayer_ | EagleScreen: the seeds have already been switched,konqueror has been replaced :P | 22:48 |
| EagleScreen | well, Rekonq is better than Koqnueror with KHTM | 22:49 |
| shadeslayer_ | EagleScreen: i cant do anything about it,you might want to discuss with Riddell or JontheEchidna | 22:49 |
| Riddell | http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3998 is enlightening | 22:50 |
| EagleScreen | if Konqueror still doesn't work with webkit, there is nothing to discuss | 22:51 |
| tazz | hey guys, i cant find libcaptury-dev package in 10.04 it is mentioned as an optional package for building kdebase-workspace, is there any replacement for this package? | 22:54 |
| Riddell | it got removed I think | 22:56 |
| Riddell | upstream deprecated it | 22:56 |
| shadeslayer_ | my upgrade is almost complete :P | 22:57 |
| shadeslayer_ | another min for the download to finish xD | 22:57 |
| Riddell | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/captury removed back in karmic | 22:57 |
| tazz | Ah i see, Riddell do we have a substitute for the package? I am about the modify the documentation, to add a mention. | 22:57 |
| Riddell | tazz: no, it's not used by upstream any more | 22:58 |
| Riddell | tazz: which documentation? | 22:58 |
| shadeslayer_ | Riddell: building kde from svn docs | 22:58 |
| tazz | Riddell, http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4/Kubuntu_and_Debian | 22:58 |
| Riddell | tazz: remove any mention, KDE hasn't used it for over a year | 22:59 |
| tazz | sure. Thanks for helping Riddell | 23:00 |
| shadeslayer_ | wow... | 23:06 |
| shadeslayer_ | i just found a new feature,press ctr+F8 and drag apps to other desktops | 23:06 |
| Riddell | nifty this KDE thing :) | 23:07 |
| shadeslayer_ | Riddell: yeah! | 23:07 |
| * shadeslayer_ loves this new feature :D | 23:07 | |
| * Trouble_ looks up Gnome | 23:08 | |
| shadeslayer_ | the only place gnome will be on my PC is now the Trash Bin :P | 23:08 |
| shadeslayer_ | Riddell: whoa! you can add more desktops too! :D | 23:10 |
| shadeslayer_ | theres a nifty littely + button at the bottom | 23:10 |
| shadeslayer_ | *little | 23:10 |
| Riddell | clever that | 23:12 |
| JontheEchidna | shadeslayer_: crtl + F8 has been there since 4.1 :P The + button is new though | 23:12 |
| shadeslayer_ | JontheEchidna: no not that,press Ctrl+F8 and you can drag apps to other desktops | 23:12 |
| shadeslayer_ | that wasnt there before | 23:12 |
| JontheEchidna | was here | 23:12 |
| JontheEchidna | only maximized windows didn't work, until they always unmaximized them when you activated the effect | 23:13 |
| shadeslayer_ | hmm... maybe i never tried it then :P | 23:13 |
| shadeslayer_ | My KDE usage jumps to 100 pc whenever theres a beta release around the corner and keeps deteriorating after the actual release xD | 23:14 |
| === shadeslayer_ is now known as shadeslayer | ||
| shadeslayer | Riddell: no overwrite errors in this release \o/ | 23:16 |
| Riddell | amazing isn't it? a slick release all round I think | 23:17 |
| Riddell | well done shadeslayer and lex79 on that | 23:17 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 23:17 |
| shadeslayer | ok brb... kernel needs a reboot :) | 23:17 |
| shadeslayer | well... apart from the right click issue,everything is kool :D | 23:26 |
| lex79 | I don't remember if kubuntu-dev application needs sponsors, like core-dev applications | 23:35 |
| lex79 | ok found, it needs | 23:37 |
| Riddell | always good to make our decision easier | 23:37 |
| shadeslayer | lex79: there definitely seems to be a issue with right click in systray | 23:41 |
| shadeslayer | with only a few apps though | 23:42 |
| lex79 | with all apps? I don't have problems here | 23:42 |
| lex79 | ah | 23:42 |
| shadeslayer | kmail works but klipper doesnt :P | 23:42 |
| shadeslayer | the sound icon doesnt work too.... | 23:43 |
| CIA-91 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1136462 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/worker/workeracquire.cpp No need to cast to int here | 23:43 |
| lex79 | maybe dbus menu issue, I don't know | 23:43 |
| lex79 | klipper works here with right click | 23:43 |
| CIA-91 | [libqapt] jmthomas * 1136463 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/worker/workeracquire.cpp Reset m_calculatingSpeed to "true" when starting a new fetch | 23:44 |
| lex79 | Riddell: you should start to retry with kdepimlibs | 23:44 |
| lex79 | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepimlibs/4:4.4.85-0ubuntu1 | 23:44 |
| JontheEchidna | backporting libdbusmenu-qt 0.3.3 will fix it | 23:44 |
| lex79 | shadeslayer: are you in lucid? | 23:45 |
| shadeslayer | yes | 23:45 |
| JontheEchidna | we had the same issue in maverick until I updated libdbusmenu the other day | 23:45 |
| Riddell | lex79: done | 23:46 |
| Riddell | anything else? | 23:46 |
| lex79 | nope for now, the other packages needs kdepimlibs first | 23:46 |
| lex79 | shadeslayer: can you do libdbusmenu-qt 0.3.3 backport? | 23:47 |
| lex79 | and upload to beta ppa | 23:47 |
| shadeslayer | lex79: wheres the source? | 23:47 |
| shadeslayer | i can have a look and try :) | 23:48 |
| lex79 | in launchpad | 23:48 |
| shadeslayer | lex79: https://edge.launchpad.net/libdbusmenu-qt | 23:49 |
| shadeslayer | right? | 23:49 |
| lex79 | uhm | 23:49 |
| JontheEchidna | edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libdbusmenu-qt | 23:49 |
| JontheEchidna | can grab the maverick packaging from there | 23:49 |
| shadeslayer | yeah im just copying the dsc url :P | 23:50 |
| shadeslayer | E: libdbusmenu-qt source: missing-build-dependency quilt (>= 0.46-7~) | 23:53 |
| shadeslayer | hmm... | 23:53 |
| shadeslayer | should i just ignore that? | 23:53 |
| lex79 | uhm weird https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepimlibs/4:4.4.85-0ubuntu1/+build/1784027 | 23:53 |
| JontheEchidna | shadeslayer: removing the versioning from the build-dep should fix it | 23:56 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: quilt has no version associated with it | 23:57 |
| shadeslayer | Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 7.3), cmake, libqt4-dev, quilt, libqjson-dev, pkg-config | 23:57 |
| * Riddell snoozes | 23:58 | |
| lex79 | Riddell: kdepim? uploaded? | 23:58 |
| shadeslayer | hehe :P | 23:59 |
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