[00:04] aah, I'm glad wifi works again :) [00:07] now fix video codecs too [00:09] What's broken? [00:09] I'm watching avi's atm [00:14] humm [00:14] I couldn'ti can retest [00:15] No suitable decoder module: [00:15] VLC does not support the audio or video format "avc1". Unfortunately there is no way for you to fix this. [00:15] Vlc. [00:16] totem is busy playing music [00:16] cause pygtk is broken for exaile [00:16] BUGabundo: doesn't vlc have it's own codecs? [00:16] no [00:17] oh === Seeker`_ is now known as Seeker` [00:46] vlc uses ffmpeg for codecs. so whatever ffmpeg has, vlc can play [00:47] but since maverick has all codecs broken [00:47] I can't play nothing with any player [00:48] libavcodec can play vc1 files [00:50] well them some update is not fixing it for me [00:50] the bug we filed for the codecs is closed [00:50] and me and some others users, can't play squat [00:57] videolan will pass along a bit more info if you open it in a console [01:04] $ videolan [01:04] videolan: command not found [01:04] [0x211ecb8] main decoder warning: cannot load module `/usr/lib/vlc/codec/libavcodec_plugin.so' (libavutil.so.49: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory) [01:05] ah, there you go [01:05] install libavutil [01:05] libavutil-49 [01:05] wait, it's called libavutil49 i think [01:07] bjsnider: wants to remove libavutil49-extra [01:08] ok, so it's already installed, but this is an old version [01:08] yes [01:08] we are on 50 [01:08] why do you have the old version? [01:08] but -50 wants to remove half my OS [01:09] I do have libavutil-extra-50 [01:09] have you got any ppas or other outside maverick sources? [01:09] $ dpkg -l | grep libavutil | pastebinit http://paste.ubuntu.com/446902/ [01:09] several [01:10] what about vlc? where did it come from? [01:10] $ apt-cache policy vlc | pastebinit http://paste.ubuntu.com/446904/ [01:10] archive [01:11] i wonder if it was built before or after ffmpeg. it needs to be rebuilt after a new ffmpeg version like that [01:12] you have 2 ffmpeg versions in there conflicting with each other and you need to resolve that [01:13] actually you have 3 ffmpeg versions [01:13] at least now I have video [01:13] cool [01:13] guess I can sleep now [01:13] thanks bjsnider [01:13] :) [01:38] Anyone active here? [01:39] sebsebseb, I believe so unless they are all in europe which means they are asleep :) [01:39] coz_: no not everyone in Europe is asleep [01:39] anyway look at this [01:40] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/1.199 [01:40] bye bye aptitude and tasksel it seems [01:40] mmm [01:41] tasksel is used by Debian, and not Ubuntu as far as I know [01:41] I wonderif this is already in repositories [01:41] let me check [01:41] ,but removing aptitude is bound to annoy quite a few more experienced users [01:42] sebsebseb, yeah I never use aptitude myself...only apt but for sure it will irritate if that is the case [01:43] coz_: yeah [01:44] sebsebseb, I dont see this in the current updates so far [01:45] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/1.199 [01:45] bruce89, yea :) that is what we have been talking about [01:46] I found out on identica today [01:47] well from that link tasksel if only removed from minimal [01:47] aptitude from standard [01:47] I have a theory about the hidious gnome-terminal background [01:49] what;s the theory? :) [01:49] they're driving people from the CLI you see [01:54] coz_: http://identi.ca/conversation/35175401 [01:55] sebsebseb, oo already upset :) [01:55] I'll declare that I'm a Fedora person now [01:55] coz_: uh? [01:55] sebsebseb, according to that link people are upset already :) [01:56] coz_: well this distro is really for the newbies and those that want to help them, starting with 9.04 [01:56] sebsebseb, fedora / debian are to "anal" about gpl for my tastes [01:56] coz_: Ubuntu I mean [01:56] sebsebseb, right understood [01:56] its not so much for expereinced users anymore really [01:57] so yeah bye bye aptitude and tasksel I guess [01:57] coz_: because they actually care about freedom [01:57] sebsebseb, well... the way I look at it is... ubuntu is what you make of it [01:57] instead of market share like sebsebseb here [01:58] maybe but I have been with ubuntu since day one... so ... I even have the install disks [01:58] I don't want loads of people to use Windows :) or Mac OS X, but mainly Windows [01:58] coz_: second release in 2005 for me [01:58] not my first distro though [01:58] sebsebseb, not mine either ...actually I was using BeOs at the time [01:58] coz_: i kind of was [01:58] !freedom [01:58] freedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing [01:59] sebsebseb, i switch as many of my clients over to ubuntu as possible and not a single one has had complaints but loads of compliments [02:00] coz_: oh? [02:00] loads of them have complained about Ubuntu, thats what your saying? [02:01] compliments != complaints [02:01] != == not equal [02:01] quiet ubottu [02:01] bruce89, no no...many have onlly given praise to ubuntu [02:02] I know, I was explaining the differences in the words to seb [02:02] oh sorry :) [02:02] no problem [02:03] bruce89: you know I don't understand that == stuff and what not, useaully [02:03] if ever [02:03] no matter how many times we explain it [02:04] not equal is equal to not equal it meant [02:07] http://identi.ca/conversation/35246956 [02:10] bruce89, oooo synaptic at some point? I will complain then :) [02:10] coz_: Synaptic is going to be replaced by Software Centre in 10.10 [02:10] as far as I know [02:10] in the default install [02:10] yes [02:11] sebsebseb, oo mmm... what about "history" freezing an application though... with this be available via software centre [02:12] coz_: whats that? [02:12] pinning [02:12] sorry about that [02:12] pinning a specific version of a package [02:12] sebsebseb, in synaptic you can vie [02:13] view histroy [02:13] sebsebseb, or freeze an application version [02:13] sebsebseb, would be nice if available in software centre as well [02:13] Synaptic is great, software centre realy isn't so far, except for the looks [02:14] agreed [02:14] they should have got rid of synaptic and software-center [02:14] and rely on the aptitude GUI [02:14] or heaven forbid, packagekit-gnome [02:14] bruce89, well so far.... my clients all love synaptic... I think it is a cool front end and easily understood [02:14] bruce89: maybe, but they can't sell commercial apps with those? [02:15] coz_: indeed, the UI is a bit yucky [02:15] bruce89: which ui is a bit yucky? [02:15] synaptic's [02:16] last I used it that is [02:17] bruce89, well it is simple looking but that is one of it's "ease of use" factors I believe [02:17] sorry I keep banging on about PackageKit, but it really is a lovely system [02:17] Synaptic is great [02:17] cov_: it wasn't that, it was the icons and the treeview size being all wide [02:17] it may be a bit old looking though, but even so [02:17] Synaptic is great [02:17] sebsebseb, I agree :) [02:18] well Gnome 2 is also a bit old looking, but it is great, without those not that good Canonical changes of course bruce89 [02:18] I always used aptitude anyway, I like not having old packages lying around [02:18] however since Gnome Shell doesn't seem popular with a lot of Ubuntu users who have tried it so far [02:18] because the version in ubuntu is bloody old [02:18] these Canonical edits, may turn into something good [02:18] bruce89: even those that done the ppa [02:19] sebsebseb, gome shell would be great if they actually incorporated that mock up of "Clever windows" [02:19] seems quite a lot of them don't like it [02:20] coz_: link>? [02:20] link? [02:20] sebsebseb, sure hold on [02:20] coz_: the task pooper? [02:21] sebsebseb, bruce89 http://www.stefanoforenza.com/clever-windows-management-for-gnome/ [02:21] the magic of gnome-shell is that things like that can be done relatively easily [02:22] bruce89, that would be cool ... sort of compiz replace ment although I would stick with ocmpiz [02:22] compiz [02:22] DISCLAIMER: I'm a GNOME contributor [02:22] :) [02:22] yeah he translates Gnome into real English [02:23] yes I mean British English :D [02:23] I haven't had any bugs filed yet, I don't think people know the difference [02:27] coz_: yeah that looks ok that video [02:27] I guess they used compiz to make it though? [02:27] sebsebseb, i think it was done in blender actually :) [02:27] coz_: compiz uhmm never really got far with it effect wide, can do the cube and wobberly windows and thatsa bout it [02:27] and compiz gets boring [02:28] and if I want eye candy more of it, well KDE [02:28] gnome-shell never will! [02:28] and I like keep it simple stupid, hence why I like Gnome 2 [02:28] sebsebseb, I disagree... in fact a fellow working in the city of Largo florida had switched the entire city governemnt computers over to linux suse I believe along with compiz [02:28] sebsebseb, they love it [02:28] let me get his blog link [02:28] sebsebseb: why not LXDE [02:29] bruce89: LXDE is also nice [02:29] ,but [02:29] I have used Gnome since 2004 :) [02:29] so rather used to Gnome 2 by now [02:29] good thing that 3.0 is really 2.32 [02:29] sebsebseb, http://davelargo.blogspot.com/ we talk with him on occasion in #compiz-dev and #compiz when he is trying out new stuff [02:29] bruce89: why? [02:29] because that's what it is called [02:29] also what about virtual machines, apparnatly can't do compiz in them? or Gnome Shell at the moment? [02:29] well thats not very good then [02:30] sebsebseb, I think that is waht the Nomad project is partily about [02:30] partly [02:30] that's what gnome-panel3 is for [02:30] coz_: Nomad? the Gnome legacy one or? [02:30] sebsebseb, no the Novel project I believe that is its name let me check [02:30] coz_: you make Compiz? [02:30] sebsebseb: Unity will save you [02:30] bruce89: no it won't [02:30] thats only for netbook version [02:31] sebsebseb, no I am part of the support team and graphics for compiz [02:31] UNOME will then [02:31] sebsebseb, http://en.opensuse.org/Nomad [02:31] bruce89 loves Compiz! :D [02:31] sebsebseb loves being annoying [02:31] :) [02:32] yeah he doesn't seem to like it much [02:32] Nomad is david raveman's baby I believe...same guy that created [02:32] compiz initially [02:32] sebsebseb: I'll thank you to not air my opinions, I'll do that [02:35] right bruce89 lets try and find out here since your wondering [02:35] Can Ubuntu play WebM? [02:35] maverick no doubt can [02:36] oh let me ask this again now that a few people are here... I notice in maverick global rgba however some applicatoins are not wroking properly with that ...ie some game but where would the conf file be to disable those applications for rgba? I cannot find /etc/probile.d/gtkrgba.sh [02:38] coz_: yeah this rgba stuff transparant look, thats something I am interested in, but other distros can already do it [02:38] sebsebseb, its already on my maverick system but some apps are not rgba ready or some I just want to exclude from it [02:39] cant't find the conf file for it though [02:39] ah well another day maybe :) [02:39] right now I have to break .. be back later [02:40] thanks guys for the completely offtopic conversation :) [02:40] coz_: that was only added to GTK+ 3 hours ago [02:40] http://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/commit/?h=client-side-decorations&id=68a12cf28c12778942690d58d7d83b86286ece52 [02:40] bruce89, oh? [02:40] ah [02:40] bruce89, well its on my system :) [02:40] coz_: I thought bruce89 would know something, so told him to look here again [02:41] due to Ubuntu patching an experimental branch of GTK+ in to their packages [02:42] bruce89, oh isee. mm ok I need to learn how to disable some apps with this [02:42] it was easy when I installed global rgba on karmic since the /etc/profile.d/gtkrgba.sh file was there [02:43] anyway I really do need to break here be back hopefully later :) [02:46] if someone see's coz when he comes back you can do "export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1" [02:46] that should allow the app to work [02:47] anyone know if Maverick will support the absolutely needed function to wake from suspend/sleep? === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler [09:01] yes mummy,I won't dance in the rain! [09:50] I have a question, how come If I do `sudo nano code.c` there's no color highlight, but if I do it normally with `nano` or I enter a root environmet with `sudo -i` color works. [09:52] Because you don't have the config files in /root/ but do have them in your homedir [09:52] and sudo -i uses your homedir's config files [09:52] Ian_corne: ah, that might explain it. what files do add to /root/ to get that working? [09:53] never having used nano for real, but I think .nanorc or something? === om26er_ is now known as om26er [12:45] good morning +1 crowd! I upgraded my desktop computer to maverick yesterday, and the eth0 interface is gone. Can I have some help please? :-) [12:45] morning [12:45] hi Ian_corne [12:46] nessita: check if network isn't disabled in the network manager [12:47] Ian_corne: I have not NM installed, I specifically uninstalled it in Lucid to be able to have a fixed IP [12:48] nessita: you can still have a fixed IP(on boot) if you input the details in /etc/network/interfaces [12:48] but that's beside the point [12:48] ifconfig eth0 up do anything? [12:49] Ian_corne: eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such Device [12:49] if you run ifconfig -a [12:49] does it show then? [12:49] oh [12:49] maybe it's been renamed to eth1 [12:49] same error [12:49] try ifconfig -a to list all your thingies [12:49] hmm [12:49] it just lists lo and vboxnet0 [12:50] is it in a virtualbox? [12:50] nopes [12:50] it has viertualbox installed [12:51] I can uninstall it with no problem, if it will help [12:51] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1503296&page=2 I think this guy has the same problem [12:51] (can't think how will it help, but hey) [12:51] Don't see any answer yet tho [12:51] file a bug report? [12:52] Ian_corne: sure [12:52] is it a clean install [12:52] or upgrade? [12:52] oh upgrade [12:52] checked dmesg? it should list the network card there when it initializes it [12:52] you could try deleting /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules [12:52] and rebooting [12:52] that also [12:53] Ian_corne: replaced by hand lucid by maverick in sources.list and then aptitude update plus aptitude dist-upgrade [12:53] Ian_corne: what project should I file the bug into? [12:53] well, do what yofel said first :) [12:54] I'm actually not sure which package to file this bug under [12:54] yofel: there is no eth0, not "interface" word in dmesg [12:54] I do see the Ethernet card in lspci [12:55] nessita: search for 'Network' maybe? [12:55] yofel: got this match: [12:56] e1000e: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Driver - 1.0.2-k4 [12:56] copyright bla bla [12:56] alloc irq_desc for 10 on node -1 [12:57] and it follows, want me to copy more? [12:57] hm, any error? as it works fine here [12:57] [ 1.762019] e1000e 0000:00:19.0: eth0: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection [12:57] 2.6.35-1 [12:58] yofel: same kernel version for me [12:58] ok, network card: 00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82577LM Gigabit Network Connection (rev 06) [12:59] yofel: I don't have a line like that [12:59] nessita: can you pastebin the whole dmesg output maybe? 'dmesg | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com' [12:59] nessita: that was from lspci [12:59] the previous one was from dmesg though [12:59] yofel: how can I paste it? hmmm I guess I can copy the output to a USB stick [12:59] and then read it from the laptop [12:59] and theeeen pastebin it :-) [12:59] ah yeah ^^ [13:00] * nessita does [13:07] yofel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/591702 [13:07] Ubuntu bug 591702 in Ubuntu "After upgrade lucid -> maverick eth0 interface is gone" [Undecided,New] [13:07] yofel: I attached the outputs there (dmesg, lspci, and the interfaces file) [13:08] yofel: I'm not sure if it's related but I uninstalled network manager while being on Lucid, and now the static definition for eth0 is commented out in the interfaces file (it wasn't before) [13:12] from dmesg: [13:12] [ 2.982706] e1000e 0000:00:19.0: PCI INT A disabled [13:12] [ 2.982814] e1000e: probe of 0000:00:19.0 failed with error -3 [13:13] yofel: ouch [13:13] what does that mean? :-0 [13:13] no idea [13:13] I'll assign it to the kernel [13:14] yofel: is there anyone I can talk to about this? I kind of need that computer to work :-/ [13:15] I hate to say this, but you do have backups? [13:15] and let me ping someone [13:16] nessita: can you add the output of 'uname -a' to the bug please? [13:17] yofel: no I don't, I was convinced the upgrade would be smooth -- I was expecting issues with the video but not network, je [13:17] yofel: sure I can, anything else? [13:17] like the output of ifconfig eth0 up? [13:17] actually... [13:17] yofel: not like anything's lost [13:18] nessita: can you run 'sudo apport-cli linux' on that pc? Save the report, copy it to your other pc and file the bug from there, we'll get a lot more info with that [13:19] yofel: sure [13:19] (file a new bug, and mark the old one a dup of the new one) [13:19] Ian_corne: shall I still try the removal of the file you mentioned in udev? [13:20] check that file out first [13:20] if you see anything wrong, remove it, it'll get generated next time [13:20] but if there's anything wrong, it should just name your device eth1 [13:21] Ian_corne: I see nothing weird, though I'm not sure what weird is in this context :-) [13:25] nessita: oh, and can you try one of the kernels from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ ? especially 2.6.35-rc2 [13:25] yofel: how can I try one of those? [13:26] meh, rc2 failed to build [13:26] maybe try http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.34-lucid/ and see if it works with 34 [13:27] nessita: just download the deb files (the _all ones and the ones for your architecture) and install them [13:27] nessita: two things: [13:27] like with 'sudo dpkg -i linux*.deb' [13:27] the proper method to upgrade is update-manager -d [13:27] nessita: after you copied them to the other pc [13:27] 2nd: maverick is alpha software [13:27] it can and *will* cause brakage [13:28] if you need stable production OS , please refer to lucid or other stable releases [13:28] nessita: download the headers and the image, you don't need the source [13:28] no support is garanteed in Maverick [13:28] BUGabundo_remote: I know, I work for Canonical and I'm helping testing the aplha release of Maverick :-) [13:29] ahahah [13:29] BUGabundo_remote: and update-manager -d didn't offer the possibility to update to maverick [13:29] complain to your boss then :) [13:29] yes it does [13:29] since alpha1 is out [13:29] several of the users in here did it [13:29] unless you have it set to only show lts releases [13:29] you need to set update-manager to accest non-lts releases first [13:29] correct [13:30] s/accest/accept/ [13:30] * BUGabundo_remote keeps forgetting LL is lTS [13:30] BUGabundo_remote: my boss couldn't did it either, he did the dist-upgrade as well. [13:30] BUGabundo_remote: ah, I probably dn't have the non LTS option enabled [13:31] anyways, I don't like graphical tools, I strongly prefer command line [13:31] yofel: new bug report is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/591707 and I maked the fomer one as dup of this one [13:31] Ubuntu bug 591707 in linux (Ubuntu) "After upgrade lucid -> maverick eth0 interface is gone" [Undecided,New] [13:32] yofel: so, next step, to try kernel 2.6.34. I'll download those and install [13:32] hmm, I can't get my e1000's to messup :( [13:33] patdk-wk: I had a static config in /etc/network/interfaces [13:33] patdk-wk: no idea if it's related, but maybe? [13:34] nope, that happens much much later after your issue :) [13:51] yofel: when installing the -34 kernel I see several "dkms_autoinstaller: Build failed. Installation skipped." [13:51] for nvidia module at least [13:52] yofel: shall I reboot the same? [14:11] yofel: confirmed no eth0 on 2.6.34-020634 [14:12] 2.6.34? [14:12] gnomefreak: yeap, I was testing 2.6.34 because I have no eth0 on 2.6.35 either [14:13] ah [14:20] yofel: eth0 on kernel 2.6.32-22 does work, though video is awful [14:25] strange [14:31] patdk-wk: any other idea? :-) === txwikinger2 is now known as txwikinger [14:39] nope [14:39] only thing I can think of is maybe a change in your southbridge or something in the kernel source [14:39] why it would affect you but not me [14:39] not really sure [14:40] patdk-wk: but why will -32 kernel work and not 34/35? [14:40] oviously something changed :) [14:41] if e1000 works for me but not you, Idoubt it was the e1000 driver that changed [14:42] * nessita is sad [14:50] patdk-wk: how did you upgrade? [15:09] the xorg updates are almost thare [15:09] damn :) [15:10] patdk-wk: are you using e1000 or e1000e? they're not the same [15:11] e1000e works fine here though [15:11] didn't try my other notebook yet [15:11] hmm, dunno, lets see [15:12] normal e1000 === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna [15:13] * gnomefreak hates bugs [15:17] hmm, e1000e doesn't work on that system [15:17] I have two other systems I could try it on, but neither have maverick on them [15:18] and these two systems are using e1000e :) [15:20] patdk-wk: e1000e worked perfectly for me till yesterday, and I was running lucid with latest updates [15:20] well, both of my e1000e systems are lucid [15:20] but yes, it's the >2.6.33 kernel issue probably [15:20] well, >= [15:21] guess I will have to setup maverick on one of these to test :) [15:29] patdk-wk: I can help in any way you need, I need to have this cmputer usable [15:46] nessita, install a realtek card :) [15:47] patdk-wk: buuuuuuuu! [15:48] installer seems borked when using LVM [15:50] nessita, I carry around a usb network adaptor, just incase I need it, normally use it when I need to network connections on my laptop though [15:50] patdk-wk: I do have one!!! [15:50] whay I didn't try before? [15:51] cause it's non-optimal :) [15:51] patdk-wk: I have an Encore ENUWI-G2 [15:51] * nessita wonders if will it work while she plugs it in === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna [16:05] patdk-wk: seems like there is an issue with this driver, as per http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/linux-netdev/2010/5/11/6276964 [16:05] hmm [16:05] patdk-wk: my manager and I asked in ubuntu-desktop, and they added the patch to rc2 [16:05] I just have a linksys one [16:05] which I'm now dowloading [16:05]