/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/06/09/#ubuntu-arm.txt

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armin76haha06:24
armin76lool: look, someone spamming with his away again :D06:25
neo_Hello all08:28
neo_I have a doubt in the RootfsFromScratch . anybody there to help me08:30
neo_?08:30
neo_Hi08:38
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hrwmorning08:47
ARMportmorning hrw08:54
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hrwzyga: hi09:04
ARMportHello all09:05
ARMporti have an issue in running ARM/RootfsFromScratch09:05
hrwyou was as neo_ few minutes ago?09:05
hrw09:31 < neo_> I have a doubt in the RootfsFromScratch . anybody there to help me09:05
ARMportyes09:05
hrwso next time do not change nick09:06
ARMportsure09:06
hrwso what issue?09:06
ARMporti am unable to use the mouse inside the Qemu VNC09:06
XorAheh, neo is a bad choice of nick anyway :-)09:06
ARMportha ha :)09:06
hrwXorA: thats too09:06
hrwARMport is not better anyway09:06
ARMportI ll change it soon ;)09:06
XorAits the equiv these days of countzero in the 90s09:07
hrwARMport: never used qemu with vnc09:07
hrwXorA: mess with the best, die like the rest?09:07
ARMportdon't get u !09:07
zygahrw, czesc :-)09:07
ARMportI mean using the command qemu-system-arm -M versatilepb -cpu cortex-a8 -kernel ./vmlinuz -hda arm-rootfs.img -m 256 -append "root=/dev/sda mem=256M devtmpfs.mount=0 rw"09:07
ARMportI tried to run the qemu,09:08
ARMportand opened the emulated ARM image in the VNC viewer09:08
XorAamusingly "The Plague" didnt really take off as a nick even though the film was awesome09:08
ARMportXorA: i don't think so09:08
XorAits one of my favourite films, brings back so many memories of 2600 meets09:09
ARMporthas any one tried running the ARM image using qemu?09:09
ARMportXorA : its my fav too09:10
hrwXorA: from 2006 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0479125/ one?09:10
XorAhrw: from Hackers09:11
hrwah09:11
XorAhttp://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113243/09:11
hrwlong time since last time I watched Hackers09:11
hrwo.. there was 720p edition09:12
XorA..oo00OO I shall have to look for bluray then09:13
hrwInstead of going to bluray I bought mini hifi with dvd09:14
XorAI have a ps3 which is awesome for video playback09:16
hrwand require transcoding of all divx movies09:16
XorAnope09:16
XorAplays DivX fine, just not DivX:-)09:16
hrwwhat about matroska container? etc?09:17
hrwfriend told me that he has a bit of work with most movies to get them played on his ps309:17
XorAit doesnt understand mkv, but tsmuxer will remux is happilly to mpeg2 ps which it does understand09:17
XorAps3-media-server does it on the fly :-)09:18
XorAits DivX certified, so plays them without issue09:18
XorAhttp://ps3mediaserver.blogspot.com/09:19
hrwI have to check divx on my hifi09:19
hrwalso divx certified09:19
XorAthe thing to watch out is that xvid != divx09:19
XorAdifferent set of ASP options09:19
XorAmost players dont care, but a few do09:20
hrwand one day fight enough to get some movie converted to avhcd (or how it was named) and then I will check my TV capabilities09:20
XorAwarez stuff is normally xvid for obvious reasons09:20
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cooloneysebjan: those images work on lag's panda, thanks a lot, man11:03
lagcooloney: I've already emailed sebjan11:04
lagSebjan: What's changed in u-boot lately? Does it now check for system IDs?11:05
lag*different system IDs11:05
NCommanderndec: you around?11:39
sebjanlag: I did not have a look, and I did not build myslef the images I provided to you. Will try to get so info about that.12:06
lagThank you sebjan12:08
ogralag, the u-boot branch from gitorious.org should be fine, i'll update the ubuntu package soon12:08
ogralag, http://www.gitorious.org/pandaboard/u-boot12:09
lagogra: Yes it is. I was just curious as to what the differences were - thirst for knowledge and all that. ;)12:12
ograwell, the diffs might tell :)12:13
ogra#define MACH_TYPE_OMAP4_PANDA         279112:17
ogralooks like that one12:17
ografrom include/asm-arm/mach-types.h12:17
hrwhate make12:23
lagI would if I had the sources for both ;)12:23
ogralag, http://www.gitorious.org/pandaboard/u-boot has the source :)12:24
ograthat was copy pasted from the web ui12:25
lagThat's the one I do have12:25
Guest23625Hello12:39
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JameswStubbsIs there an arm version of the Ubuntu Minimal Cd?12:40
JameswStubbsSpecifically Karmic ?12:41
sebjanlag: so you can boot with the images I provided to you, but not with the gitorious ones?12:41
lagsebjan: I think the ones that were provided for me were the ones used for Blaze12:42
lagI don't think they were the gitorious ones12:42
ogralag, the ones i provided to you were older panda binaries12:43
ograwithout the sysid in them, they worked on panda and blaze by a matter of luck12:43
lagOkay12:44
ograthere was a change in the panda kernel that now checks for that ID afaik12:44
lagAre you going to update your sources?12:44
ograyes12:44
JameswStubbsBump12:44
lagThen upload them to your people account?12:44
ograno, to maverick :)12:45
lagOkay12:45
ograhttps://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/u-boot-omap412:45
ograthats using the sources from omapzoom, predating the panda gitorious tree12:46
ograi'll pull in the panda stuff12:46
lagWhat git repos do I need from kernel.ubuntu.com?12:46
ograno idea12:46
ograaks #ubuntu-kernel :)12:46
ogra*ask even12:46
lagWont they be the same ones you use?12:47
JameswStubbsIs there an Ubuntu Minimal for the Arm arch?12:47
lagJameswStubbs: I don't know the answer for sure, but I wouldn't have thought so12:48
lilstevieJameswStubbs: just wait a bit, maybe you will get an answer eventually :)12:48
ograJameswStubbs, you can use the server images or a netinstall12:48
lilstevieogra: i dont think a netinstall would be useful :p12:48
JameswStubbsI'll look into the server image for arm thanks ogra12:48
ogralilstevie, ??12:49
JameswStubbsNo lilstevie it won't be, can't do a net install when we can't boot :p12:49
JameswStubbsWe're porting Ubuntu to iPhone12:49
lilstevieogra: the device we are working on is the iPhone as JameswStubbs just said12:49
ograJameswStubbs, oh, then better look at the channel topic for rootfs from scratch12:49
JameswStubbsDebating between using debian armel or ubuntu 9.1012:49
ogrause rootstock to create an ubuntu-minimal rootfs12:49
JameswStubbsI'm looking into that aswell :)12:50
ograthe images we provide are only for supported arches so the server image wont gain you much on an iphone12:50
lagJameswStubbs: Is this a project, or are you doing it for a company?12:50
JameswStubbslag : part of the iDroid project12:50
lilstevielag: its an open source project12:50
lagSounds good. Best of luck with it.12:51
JameswStubbsThanks, we'll need i12:51
JameswStubbst12:51
lilstevieheh12:51
* lilstevie is not a fan of having android12:51
lilstevieso instead going for something a little more sane :)12:51
lagI have to admit, I quite like it12:52
lagI have an HTC Desire which I am a fan of12:52
lilstevieheh, android is not nice on proprietry devices that have to have drivers written for them,12:52
JameswStubbsOnly reason I want it is for GTK Ettercap :)12:52
lagI see, and what do you want to do with Ettercap? ;)12:53
JameswStubbslag: Monitor my own network for educational purposes of course.12:54
lagJameswStubbs: Of course. How silly of me! ;)12:55
JameswStubbslilstevie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Specs/ARMServer12:55
JameswStubbsIt's for armv7 though, I think we'll need to rootfs12:56
lilsteviei think building a rootfs from scratch will be the easiest for our purposes12:56
JameswStubbsDefiantly do you think we'll still be ok using the iDroid kernel12:57
JameswStubbs?12:57
lilstevieyeah12:57
JameswStubbsogra: is this the right place to go for advice with rootfs?12:57
JameswStubbsHm, Can you run rootfs from an x86 machine with the intention of building for Arm?13:03
JameswStubbsorga : ?13:10
* mozzwald is away: hardly working13:14
lagJameswStubbs: Have you tried using rootstock?13:26
ograJameswStubbs, yes13:27
ograif you use the qemu-arm-static package13:28
ograyou can a) use rootstock to create a tarball and b) just create armel chroots using qemu-debootstrap13:28
JameswStubbsThanks, I'll be using rootstock on x86 ubuntu, creating an image, using iDroid's kernel then mounting in qemu13:30
lagogra: So you also need initrd on the card to run?13:31
ogralag, you *can* use ubuntu without initrd but i wouldnt recommend it other than for testing13:31
lagJameswStubbs: That should work. I'm using rootstock on an x86 machine too13:31
JameswStubbsIs the idea behind rootstock to build a Very minimal system and then to build from there?13:31
ograwell, depends if the droid kernel has all the features ubuntu uses13:32
ograJameswStubbs, yes, use -s ubuntu-minimal13:32
ograand do everything you want additional on the real HW13:32
JameswStubbs:p Thanks ogra, I was going to leave the --seed option blank :)13:32
ograshould work as well13:33
ograwill result in the same :)13:33
lagogra: So, do I just bang the rootfs.tgz and initrd onto the rootfs partition and expect it to work?13:34
JameswStubbslag: Are you talking about something different to me? (just stopping myself getting confused :p )13:34
lilsteviewhat features are required from kernel for ubuntu13:34
lagJameswStubbs: Yes, I'm doing something slightly different13:35
JameswStubbsOk13:35
lilsteviewith rootstock we need to generate an img13:35
lilstevieas openiboot for the iphone loads an img for rootfs13:35
ogralag, nope13:36
ogralag, you put the rootfs into the rootfs partition13:36
ograand initrd wherever your bootloader wants it13:36
ogralag, for omap thats usually the first partition on the SD and it should be a vfat13:38
JameswStubbslilstevie: Yeh that's right, but Idroid has multiple images where as our whole distro will be in one image13:38
JameswStubbsWe might have to point oib in a different direction to find the info13:38
lilstevieJameswStubbs: thats because they are mounted individually13:38
JameswStubbsSo we could probably get away with renaming or image system.img13:38
lilstevieinitrc points to the other images13:38
JameswStubbsIt doesnt do a hash check or anything13:39
JameswStubbsYeh lilstevie13:39
lilstevieso we just need our own init13:39
ogramake sure that your img usues a supported filesystem13:40
lagogra: So the initrd goes in the /boot partition then?13:41
ograno13:41
ograit goes into the vfat13:41
ograand you need to specify it in your bootm command for u-boot13:42
lag/dev/sde1 on /media/boot type vfat13:42
ograwell, you labeled it boot :)13:42
lagI didn't13:42
ograsomething did13:42
lagThe script that cooloney pointed me to did13:42
lag:)13:42
ograah13:42
JameswStubbslilstevie: We wouldn't necesarily need our own init, simply modify iDroids to point to the right images13:43
ograits not /boot (and cant be)13:43
ograit just smells like /boot :)13:43
JameswStubbsMm, fresh smell of /boot in the morning13:43
lageh?13:43
ogra /boot cant be vfat on debian based systems13:43
ogradpkg unpacks the kernel there, while unpacking it creates hardlinks of the former files13:44
lagOh okay, it's just the partition label13:45
lagIt won't actually be /boot, as in /boot/grub13:45
ogravfat doesnt support hardlinks13:45
ograso /boot cant be vfat13:45
lagBut yes, I see what you mean13:45
ograright13:46
lagPerhaps it's a confusing name13:46
ograits still your boot-partition13:46
ograbut you cant mount it as /boot13:46
lagCorrect13:46
lagWhich is where the initrc needs to go, correct?13:46
ograsince our kernels and initrds live in /boot, we have a tool called flash-kernel thats works around this prob13:47
ograits usually called buy update-initramfs (which in turn is called by the kernel package when you install it)13:47
ograflash-kernel mounts /dev/mmcblk0p1 and runs mkimage for kernel and initrd to create uInitrd and uImage13:47
ogra(or at least iots supposed to, it doesnt do that for the panda or beagle yet, i will have to write some code still)13:48
ogralag, mkimage -A arm -O linux -T ramdisk -C none -a 0x0 -e 0x0 -n "Ubuntu Initrd" -d /path/to/initrd.img-$ver uInitrd13:51
ograyou will need that13:51
lagAg13:51
lagAh*13:51
ografatload mmc 0:1 0x80000000 uImage13:51
ografatload mmc 0:1 0x81600000 uInitrd13:52
ograbootm 0x80000000 0x8160000013:52
ograthats for the u-boot prompt13:52
ograand should get you a boot with initrd13:52
lagSo the uImage and the uInitrd go on the same place on the SD card?13:54
ograright, into the vfat13:56
lagYep13:57
lagAnd is the rootfs okay to go in as a tgz?13:57
lagOr should I unpack it first?13:57
JameswStubbsThanks again for your help ogra13:57
ogralag, format the partition and unpack13:58
ograJameswStubbs, welcome, good luck13:58
lagThought as much13:59
* lag wondered when they'd put tgz support into the kernel13:59
ograheh14:01
ograNCommander, bah, bug 583317 will bite us badly14:08
ubot2Launchpad bug 583317 in genext2fs (Ubuntu) "genext2fs creates revision 0 filesystems instead of revision 1 (affects: 1) (heat: 156)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58331714:08
ograha !14:19
ografinally14:19
ograhow silly14:19
* ogra finally found the reason why resize2fs didnt work in initramfs ... seems it has a call to /etc/mtab hardcoded14:20
lagIs the rootfs created by rootstock meant to pull up a terminal?14:36
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ogralag, yep14:37
lagFreeing init memory: 192K14:37
laginit: ureadahead main process (55) terminated with status 514:37
lagtwl: i2c_write failed to transfer all messages14:37
lagi2c_omap i2c_omap.1: controller timed out14:37
lagtwl: i2c_read failed to transfer all messages14:37
lagtwl6030_bci: error reading CONTROLLER_CTRL114:37
lagThen nothing14:37
ograwhats your console= setting in the cmdline ?14:38
ograand what was the rootstock cmdline you used :)14:38
ograby default ubuntu has no serial getty running ... you can enable it in rootstock with the --serial switch14:39
lagI did that14:40
lagLet me have a play14:40
ogrado you have a monitor attached ?14:40
ograi'm pretty sure you have a login prompt on tty1 :)14:40
lagI don't have a monitor which supports HDMI14:40
ograyou should get one :)14:40
ograor DVI at least and an adapter14:41
hrwcheapest lcd with dvi is enough for BB14:41
lagTrue HDMI doesn't work with adaptors14:41
hrwlag: define 'true hdmi' please14:42
ograhrw, the panda has hdmi14:42
lagTrue HDMI sends co-data to control the output settings14:42
hrwogra: with audio over hdmi or just hdmi connector?14:42
hrwlag: you mean HDMI/CI?14:43
lagI forget what it's called14:43
hrwCI or CEC - adapted from SCART connector14:43
ograhrw, the current build i have has a headphone jack and two HDMI ports14:43
lagI just know that when I was working on set-top boxes some worked with a connector and some didn't14:43
hrwused to say 'TV - I am here, switch to my hdmi port'14:43
ograhrw, but that might change14:43
lagCould well be14:44
lagWill the Panda work with a connector?14:44
hrwBB has hdmi connector just because it is smaller then dvi. works fine with hdmi->hdmi cable and with hdmi->hdmi-to-dvi adapters14:44
hrwso far worked for me with dvi monitors and hdmi tv14:44
ogralag, i havent booted mine beyond the uboot prompt yet14:44
lagWhat about Panda?14:44
lagogra: Why so?14:45
lagAren't you working on the kernel?14:45
ograwhile the BB has DVI i think the panda has HDMI14:45
ogralag, i'm working on all the rest :)14:45
lagRight, so the connector will be no good?14:45
ograyeah, likely14:45
lagWell I don't want to outlay for a new monitor :S14:46
* ogra stbs jasper 14:49
ogra*stabs even14:49
lagcooloney: ping15:05
cooloneylag: lee, man15:11
lagubuntu@panda:~$ ls /15:12
lagbin   dev  home  lost+found  mnt  proc  sbin     srv  tmp  var15:12
lagboot  etc  lib   media       opt  root  selinux  sys  usr15:12
lagGood work15:12
lagcooloney: --^15:13
cooloneylag: haha, cong, man15:13
lagcong?15:14
cooloneylag: very good news before my sleep. you built your own u-boot to make it boot?15:14
cooloneylag: sorry, congrats15:14
lagThe u-boot I was trying to use didn't pass the kernel's system ID check15:14
ograking cong :)15:14
ogra(very big congrats)15:15
cooloneyogra: lol15:15
lagYou mean King Kong?15:15
ograpfft15:15
ograchars15:15
cooloneylag: hmm, that reminds me a warning message from dmesg15:15
lagOh?15:15
cooloneylag: Uninitialized omap_chip, please fix!15:16
cooloneydid you see that in your dmesg?15:16
lagOh yeah, I see it15:16
lagYeah, it's in dmesg15:16
cooloneythe kernel code checked omap cpu id or system id something like that15:16
lagubuntu@panda:~$ dmesg | grep -i omap_chip15:16
lagUninitialized omap_chip, please fix!15:16
cooloneyand failed15:16
cooloneythen print out this15:17
cooloneymaybe relatedt15:17
cooloneyi will check them later15:17
cooloneylag, thanks for testing, man15:17
* cooloney gonna sleep now.15:17
lagNo problem - speak to you tomorrow15:17
cooloneyhave a nice day, guys15:18
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orbarronogra: any issues with pandaboard or trees?15:32
ograorbarron, see above, lag successfully booted his panda15:32
* orbarron reads... 15:32
ograi'm currently hogged with image building which i do on a C415:32
ogranot much spare time for omap4 work here15:33
orbarronnp...15:34
orbarronlag: pandaboard has DVI + HDMI and HDMI to DVI connection will work with a small hack15:44
lagI should have a monitor with HDMI built-in with me tomorrow15:48
lagWhat would the hack be?15:49
* orbarron dealing with dsi clk issues but for the mean time you can do this --> http://pastebin.com/8LVZYWnx 15:52
hrworbarron: hi Omar15:53
orbarronhrw: sup...15:53
mpoirier_asac15:53
asacmpoirier_: !!16:04
mpoirier_asac: good morning.16:05
mpoirier_asac: ogra tells me you have a beagleboard C4 - is this correct ?16:05
asacmpoirier_: why? ;)16:06
mpoirier_asac: I could use it if you don't need it.16:07
asacI need it16:07
ograasac, mpoirier is our new omap3 maintainer in the kernel team16:07
asacmpoirier_: alread discused with ogra. we gave boards to davidm for distro16:07
ogrampoirier, we're waiting for feedback from lool, he should know what happened to the missing boards16:07
asacif nothing helps and its urgent i would suggest to buy a board ;)16:08
ograaccording to asac they should all be at davidm's place16:08
mpoirier_ogra: and davidm is coming back next week ?16:09
ograwill be faster to wait until next week16:09
ogrampoirier_, yes16:09
ograasac, and we *have* 7 boards in mobile16:09
ograits just a matter where they actually are16:09
asacwell ... one dev blocked for half a day is probably more expensive than a board ;)16:09
asacand we are already pulling in 4 devs into this discussion ;)16:10
ograasac, ordering and shipping a beagle takes more than a weekend16:10
ogra4 ?16:10
asacme you mpoirier_ and lool16:10
ograwell, no trace of lool :)16:10
ograso 3 :P16:10
asacbut lool will have to read plenty of backlog now ;)16:11
asacanyway ... mpoirier_: welcome!16:12
ogrampoirier_, GrueMaster is your guineapig !16:22
mpoirier_ogra: cool - thanks.16:23
mpoirier_GrueMaster: can I send you a uImage ?16:24
GrueMasterOr post it online and I can download it.16:27
loolasac: Is the backlog relevant still?16:58
loolI read this channel usually, but I wont make the full backlog Im afraid16:58
loolhey mpoirier_!16:58
mpoirier_lool: good morning.16:59
mpoirier_lool: I need a beableboard C4, do you need yours ?16:59
ogralool, it isnt16:59
mpoirier_lool: what version then ?16:59
ogralool, the discussion in the other channel solved itr16:59
loolmpoirier_: Mine is a C3 and is personally owned16:59
ogra*it17:00
ogrampoirier_, see PM17:00
loolmpoirier_: I understand that if you want to find an idle one, you should ask davidm cause he might have a couple of spare ones17:00
mpoirier_lool: yes, he's on vacation.17:00
loolmpoirier_: If that blocks you in anyway, I highly recommend you talk to your manager: buying it and expensing it might be cheaper than the time you're losing searching for one17:00
ogralool, for now GrueMaster will help testing17:00
loolmpoirier_: Are you testing kernels?17:01
loolmpoirier_: You could also use qemu-maemo   :-)17:01
lool(/me lols)17:01
ogra*grin*17:01
mpoirier_lool: yes, I ping'ed you  before GrueMaster got on board.17:01
mpoirier_lool: I need real Hw17:01
loolmpoirier_: So mattman has been making progress on booting up to a framebuffer our regular Ubuntu omap kernels in qemu-maemo + his patches17:01
mpoirier_lool: I'm after a misbehaving SD card controller.17:02
loolmpoirier_: So perhaps you can ask pgraner whether you can expense it?17:02
mpoirier_lool: yes, that is also in the works.17:02
ogralool, davidm shoudl be able to send one out on monday17:02
loolUp to you guys, many options on the table17:03
mpoirier_lool: ogra is correct.17:03
ograso it should arrive on wed. on CDN17:03
ogra*in17:03
mpoirier_lool: thanks for getting back to me.17:03
asaclool: nope17:03
jayabharathorga: I'm curious...Is there any stats on how many people actually downloaded the 10.04 Ubuntu image for beagleboard from ubuntu.com ? Who would know this detail17:04
ograjayabharath, hmm, no idea, our is team probably, try to ask elmo in #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-release17:04
jayabharathok17:04
jayabharathorga: Also, I got a bunch of beagle folks a little annoyed with the way Ubunutu CD images.. work... it boots up from SD... overwrite the uboot on nand... messes with the existing SD card...17:05
ogra(i guess -release is the better channel for that)17:05
jayabharathorga: Will check on -release channel17:05
ograjayabharath, yeah, that will be fixed in maverick17:05
hrwhave nice day17:05
ograjayabharath, i wanted to use a vfat partition but had no time left to implement that, NAND was the quickest way back then17:06
jayabharathorga: I see...17:06
ogramaverick will be quite different in that regard17:06
jayabharathorga: gotcha.. wanted to feed this input back to you...17:07
jayabharathorga: As you are changing behavior feel free to discuss on #beagle channel too...17:07
ograyeah, i knew it wasnt the best to do when i implemented it, if someone asks you again send them to me, i'll pay them beer17:07
jayabharathorga: or write up a blog post :)17:07
jayabharathogra: I am sure people a few folks here can use beers ;)17:08
ograjayabharath, i will hopefulle meet some of the #beagle folks tomorrow at linuxtag17:08
* ogra wants to meet koen in person at least17:08
jayabharathogra: most certainly... I belive Koen is planning to be there...17:08
ograyeah, he will leave tomorrow evening17:08
jayabharathorga: check his pockets he will have a few beagleXMs :)17:09
ograthats why i go tomorrow, else i would have gone fri and sat17:09
ograheh17:09
* ogra goes back to his initramfs pain17:12
ograNCommander, did you see my ping above btw ?17:20
ograNCommander, bug 58331717:20
ubot2Launchpad bug 583317 in genext2fs (Ubuntu) "genext2fs creates revision 0 filesystems instead of revision 1 (affects: 1) (heat: 156)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58331717:20
ograyay17:40
ograasac, dropping the fsck and instead diong e2fsck during image build fixes jasper :)17:41
asacogra: hackish!17:42
ograwhy ?17:43
asacj.k.17:43
ograheh17:43
asacwhat is that doing different?17:43
ogranow i need a solution for that horridly long resize process17:43
asacwrite a script to put stuff on sdcard ;)17:43
asacor other media17:43
ograthe fsck exited with exit 2 due to the fact that the timestamp is out of order17:44
ograthat tears down the whole initramfs script17:44
ograso it never gets to the resize operation17:44
ograno, no scripts, the image will be dd'able like all ubuntu images17:44
ogra(initramfs) df17:48
ograFilesystem           1024-blocks    Used Available Use% Mounted on17:48
ogranone                    116988       128    116860   0% /dev17:48
ogra/dev/mmcblk0p2         3767479    400383   3177098  11% /root17:48
ograwohoo !17:48
ograBegin: Running /scripts/local-premount ...17:57
ogra[    4.288238]  mmcblk0: p1 p217:57
ograResizing root filesystem please wait, this will take several minutes ...17:57
* ogra dances17:57
GrueMastercool.18:03
ograhmm, several ...18:03
ogra6 min for 4G18:07
GrueMasterwhat system is this on?18:10
GrueMasterAlso, what class SD card?18:11
GrueMasterogra: ^^^18:11
ograclass4 4G sandisk on the beagle C418:12
ogragrowing the root from 450M to 4G18:12
GrueMasterThat will be a bit slow.18:12
ograthe netbook image will be 1.4G18:13
GrueMasterSlow I/O, slow SD card.18:13
ograi have some hope it will be faster to grow from 1.4 to 4G18:13
GrueMaster1.4G for the image?  Is that the download size?18:13
ogranop18:14
GrueMasterok.18:14
ograthe image will be a .img.bz2 file :)18:14
ograwill be around 500M18:14
ograyou need to uncompress and dd it18:14
GrueMasterWe need to keep it below 700M if possible.18:14
ograwell18:15
ograi'll do that if thats possible, but its a preinstalled image18:15
ograits not like anything we built before18:15
GrueMasterI understand.  That is going to have to be part of the package selection process.18:15
ograso i dont really care if it bumps above 700M18:16
GrueMasterThe 700M limit is mainly for distribution purposes.  So people can order a copy of the image on CD.18:16
ograwho does that ?18:16
ograwhere would that be offered ?18:17
GrueMasterPeople with low bandwidth.18:17
ografor these 20 ppl we can also send out a dvd18:17
GrueMasterDoesn't that show up on ubuntu.com?18:17
GrueMasterheh.18:17
ograsince that will be a manual effort anyway18:17
ograarm images arent offered in the shop18:17
GrueMasteroh.18:18
ogracross your fingers, i might be able to give you a "serial only, commandline only" preinstalled image today18:18
GrueMasterThen why the fuss over image size in past cycles?18:18
GrueMasterThat would be cool.18:18
GrueMasterI can always add from there.18:18
ograask david and persia :)18:19
GrueMaster(assuming I have some console).18:19
ograi always insisted its nonsense to bind ourselves to 700M18:19
ograGrueMaster, bah, oem-config doesnt start :/18:29
GrueMasteroops.18:29
ogralol18:29
ograheh, i spoke to soon18:30
ograit just runs on tty118:30
ograso you have to jump between serial for booting and tty1 for oem-config with this image, lets see18:30
ograhmm, no keyboard might be because it doesnt think there is a console18:34
* ogra retries18:34
ogralast round now18:34
ograGrueMaster, http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/jasper/ give it another 10min for the upload and you can pull it18:48
ogra(shoudl be around 132M if its done)18:48
GrueMasterok18:48
GrueMasterso, why hold down the user button?18:49
ograGrueMaster, oh, and ignore the OOM message from ureadahead during boot :) i have to talk to Keybuk about that one its no issue (at least it shouldnt be)18:49
ograto make it use x.loader from the SD18:49
GrueMasterah.18:50
ogra*x-loader18:50
ograi have one old B3 board here that doesnt get along with the old x-loader in NAND and the new u-boot on the SD18:50
GrueMasterI would have just used the uboot cmdline, but this works.18:50
ograso thats the safest option18:50
* ogra really hopes oem-config will DTRT18:51
ograi havent seen it finishing yet, but i have to end my day18:51
GrueMasterok.  I'll start testing and let you know how it turns out.18:52
ograoh, and if you fiddle with kernels, you have to mount mmcblk0p1 manually and generate uImage and uInitrd manually onto that partition18:52
ograflash-kernel doesnt know the new image design yet18:52
GrueMasterI only have 2G & 4G SD cards atm.  Will order an 8, 16, & 32 on payday.18:53
ograbe aware it will all be fiddly and broken atm :)18:53
GrueMasterok18:53
GrueMasterI didn't think it would be release wothy yet.18:53
ograits my first manually rolled test18:53
GrueMasters/wothy/worthy18:53
ograif stuff works its a matter of luck :)18:54
ograhmm, but it seems to work18:55
ograbah18:56
ograjasper is removed but oem-config didnt re-roll the initramfs18:56
GrueMasterhrm.18:56
ograso it will try to resize on next boot again :(18:56
GrueMasterI didn't think oem-config rerolled the initrd.18:57
ogracjwatson said it would18:57
ograwell, sudo apt-get purge jasper && sudo update-initramfs -u18:58
GrueMasterMight need an extra parameter.18:58
ograand then the mkimage stuff and copying uInitrd to the first partition18:58
GrueMasterfinished downloading, extracting and dd'ng now.18:59
ogragood luck :)19:00
* ogra is gone19:00
GrueMasterg'night.19:00
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slangasekjcrigby: any luck yet with linkat?21:19
slangasekjcrigby: it's looking to me like a regression in gnulib's linkat replacement, which was only introduced to the coreutils package in the merge of the latest upstream release; but I have no clue why it's not showing up on all archs21:20
bullet9mmciao a tutti...c'รจ qualche anima pia che mi potrebbe consigliare qualche fonte per poter installare ubuntu su processore arm?21:24
bullet9mmsorry...there is someone who can advise me about some source of information for installing ubuntu on arm?21:26
slangasekbullet9mm: http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ provides images for Dove an i.MX51 systems; http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/10.04/release/ has images for OMAP3 systems (e.g., the Beagleboard); https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM is the landing page for ARM on Ubuntu information in general21:32
slangasek<- anima pia21:32
bullet9mmslangasek  .....grazie...era proprio quello che stavo cercando...21:35
slangasekyou're welcome :)21:36
GrueMasterbullet9mm: What platform are you interested in specifically?21:37
jcrigbyslangasek: still working on it, not much progress yet21:40
jcrigbyI did notice a linkat fix in ltp.  Something about not doing the test in a tmpfs mount because you get a different error for one of the tests21:41
jcrigbyAlso once my build did finish the resulting binary seemed to work for me on qemu21:43
slangasekjcrigby: ok.  Things I've learned so far: REPLACE_LINKAT is being set but isn't used when linking the test suite; LINK_FOLLOWS_SYMLINK is detected as '0' in the build env, which is the condition that causes the failing assert to be tested; and these two things are related21:43
slangasekjcrigby: oh, interesting - I was testing on tmpfs here as well, maybe I should test on ext321:43
slangasek(my test on NFS+gssapi failed miserably :)21:43
jcrigbyahh21:44
slangasekit was definitely reproducible for me on tmpfs21:44
kblinhey slangasek21:48
* slangasek waves21:48
slangasekkblin: how goes? :)21:48
kblinfine, busy with work, but then who isn't :)21:48
bullet9mmsorry for the delay...I'm watching for beagleboard and igepv3 board...22:34
bullet9mmGrueMaster22:34
GrueMasterNot sure about the igepv3 board, but we have detailed instructions for 10.04 on beagle at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/Beagle.22:35
bullet9mmyes...I've watched it 20 minute ago...cool doc...  :)22:38
bullet9mm*minutes22:38
GrueMasterMaverick images (10.10) will be live from the start.  No installation. (we will still have a netboot install image).22:39
bullet9mmI've found this...22:44
bullet9mmhttp://elinux.org/BeagleBoard22:44
bullet9mmit's ok?22:44
GrueMasterI guess.  It is more of a general info page for beagleboards.  It has a lot of great info, but their Ubuntu Lucid info is a bit weak.22:47
bullet9mmmmm..22:49
GrueMasterIt doesn't even mention our live netbook image.22:49
GrueMasterOther than that minor detail, the info looks good.22:49
bullet9mmgot it...some impression about beagleboard+lucid?22:50
GrueMasterIt works.  Main issue is memory limitations on the beagleboard, and there are some apps that have issues, mainly mono based apps.22:52
GrueMasterAlso, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/LucidReleaseNotes22:53
bullet9mmare you talking about the RAM?22:54
GrueMasteryes.  The beagleboard only has 256M.  The XM has 512, which should help with performance.22:55
bullet9mmyes...but it isn't on sale...still...22:56
bullet9mm...think wait for the XM version...22:58
GrueMasterThe XM is on sale.  Just out of stock (I think).22:58
slangasekis it, now? I heard there were production delays22:59
bullet9mmyes...I have asked into the beagleboard's irc chan and they responded me that it isn't on sale...23:01
GrueMasterAh.  beagleboard.org hasn't been updated then.23:02
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bullet9mm@.@23:03
bullet9mmthen xm are for sale but out of stock?23:04
bullet9mm*on sale23:05
slangasekjcrigby: same failure on ext323:06
slangasekjcrigby: beagleboard, in all cases; if you're in qemu, maybe the x86ness of the env is showing through and leading you astray :/23:07
jcrigbyperhaps23:13
cwillu_at_workGrueMaster, bullet9mm, afaik the xm isn't available yet23:16
GrueMasterThat's what was said earlier.  Any idea as to eta?23:17
cwillu_at_worknope23:17
cwillu_at_work"soon"23:17
bullet9mm:(23:18
cwillu_at_workI'm disappointed they dropped the sd reader;  you can't get good microsd cards in my experience23:19
GrueMasterWell, Amazon has 2 16G class 10 microSD cards, but they are almost $100 US.23:21
cwillu_at_workthat doesn't tell you anything useful though23:21
GrueMasterToo bad they aren't using regular SD instead of microSD.23:21
cwillu_at_workyou need to know if it's slc flash, and you need to know the wear-levelling, or at least a firmware revision so that you can know that your testing is meaningful23:21
rcn-eegerald and ti are saying early-mid july for shipments in quanity...23:25
bullet9mmnice :)23:27
bullet9mm...do you think that xm will able to support kde4?23:28
rcn-eeah.. my 'Bx' rand kde 2 years ago...23:28
rcn-eeit just needs lots of swap, use an external usb drive and don't bother with a slow mmc card...23:29
cwillu_at_work512mb should be sufficient to run it without swap though23:29
bullet9mmyes...i think too...23:30
rcn-eeif you have a igepv_2 laying around, just give that a try. (it has 512Mb). (and image the cpu speed bumped from 720 to 1Ghz)23:31
cwillu_at_workhmm, there's a 2gb microsd with slc flash :/23:32
bullet9mmin fact they are undecided between XM and beagleboard igepv2 ... any advice?23:33
bullet9mmsorry...I'm undecided23:34
rcn-eewell the beagleboard and igepv2 are available now..  xm in july...23:34
cwillu_at_workbullet9mm, igepv2 is actually intended for industrial/commercial purposes, the beagle doesn't have any such guarentees23:34
rcn-eethe beagles is only 'guarented' to be a dev board, anything you do beyond that is up to your testing.. ;)23:35
cwillu_at_workexactly23:35
bullet9mmmmm...and igev2 have bluetooth and wifi modules embedded...23:35
rcn-eei keep hearing rumors of a igev3.. is that comming out this summer?23:35
cwillu_at_workoooo, a 4gb microsd with a manufacturer quoted write endurance of 2 million read/write/erase cycles23:36
cwillu_at_workthat would make the xm (and the igep) doable for me23:37
cwillu_at_workand I can get them through bluestar23:37
cwillu_at_workoh, goodie23:38
* cwillu_at_work does a happy dance23:38
rcn-eedo they have a written guarntee? i know your going to test it..  (on the bright side, i believe the xm is coming with a micro-sd card with angstrom (not 100%) i'll probally be an el cheapo micro-sd023:38
cwillu_at_workyep23:38
cwillu_at_workyep to the el cheapo, that was23:38
cwillu_at_workhttp://www.atpinc.com/p2-4a.php?sn=0000039123:38
cwillu_at_workthey quote that value in the specs sheet23:38
cwillu_at_workI'll have to wait until tomorrow to find prices though :/23:39
bullet9mmany idea about an lcd touch for igepv2?..the beagle lcd it's ok?23:39
cwillu_at_worknope, sorry23:40
bullet9mmat first sight seems to be...23:40
bullet9mmO.o23:40
cwillu_at_workas in I don't know :p23:41
bullet9mmhttp://www.igep.es/images/stories/igepv2_rc_photo2.jpg23:41
rcn-eeno.. i haven't seen a good lcd solution available for beagles yet..  the interface is their on the cx's..23:42
bullet9mmthe socket seems the same...23:42
bullet9mmhttp://www.liquidware.com/shop/show/BB-BT/BeagleTouch23:42
rcn-eethat's actually very nice...23:43
cwillu_at_workheh: http://www.liquidware.com/shop/show/QCT/QuadCore+Tower+Kit23:45
bullet9mmniiicee  :)23:47
cwillu_at_worksiiiily  :p23:47
bullet9mmit's a gem...not useful, but a gem...23:49
bullet9mm:P23:49

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