=== bjf[] is now known as bjf[afk] [03:34] * mozzwald is away: sleepytime === bjf__ is now known as bjf === bjf is now known as bjf[afk] [06:24] haha [06:25] lool: look, someone spamming with his away again :D [08:28] Hello all [08:30] I have a doubt in the RootfsFromScratch . anybody there to help me [08:30] ? [08:38] Hi === hrw|gone is now known as hrw [08:47] morning [08:54] morning hrw === XorA|gone is now known as XorA [09:04] zyga: hi [09:05] Hello all [09:05] i have an issue in running ARM/RootfsFromScratch [09:05] you was as neo_ few minutes ago? [09:05] 09:31 < neo_> I have a doubt in the RootfsFromScratch . anybody there to help me [09:05] yes [09:06] so next time do not change nick [09:06] sure [09:06] so what issue? [09:06] i am unable to use the mouse inside the Qemu VNC [09:06] heh, neo is a bad choice of nick anyway :-) [09:06] ha ha :) [09:06] XorA: thats too [09:06] ARMport is not better anyway [09:06] I ll change it soon ;) [09:07] its the equiv these days of countzero in the 90s [09:07] ARMport: never used qemu with vnc [09:07] XorA: mess with the best, die like the rest? [09:07] don't get u ! [09:07] hrw, czesc :-) [09:07] I mean using the command qemu-system-arm -M versatilepb -cpu cortex-a8 -kernel ./vmlinuz -hda arm-rootfs.img -m 256 -append "root=/dev/sda mem=256M devtmpfs.mount=0 rw" [09:08] I tried to run the qemu, [09:08] and opened the emulated ARM image in the VNC viewer [09:08] amusingly "The Plague" didnt really take off as a nick even though the film was awesome [09:08] XorA: i don't think so [09:09] its one of my favourite films, brings back so many memories of 2600 meets [09:09] has any one tried running the ARM image using qemu? [09:10] XorA : its my fav too [09:10] XorA: from 2006 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0479125/ one? [09:11] hrw: from Hackers [09:11] ah [09:11] http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113243/ [09:11] long time since last time I watched Hackers [09:12] o.. there was 720p edition [09:13] ..oo00OO I shall have to look for bluray then [09:14] Instead of going to bluray I bought mini hifi with dvd [09:16] I have a ps3 which is awesome for video playback [09:16] and require transcoding of all divx movies [09:16] nope [09:16] plays DivX fine, just not DivX:-) [09:17] what about matroska container? etc? [09:17] friend told me that he has a bit of work with most movies to get them played on his ps3 [09:17] it doesnt understand mkv, but tsmuxer will remux is happilly to mpeg2 ps which it does understand [09:18] ps3-media-server does it on the fly :-) [09:18] its DivX certified, so plays them without issue [09:19] http://ps3mediaserver.blogspot.com/ [09:19] I have to check divx on my hifi [09:19] also divx certified [09:19] the thing to watch out is that xvid != divx [09:19] different set of ASP options [09:20] most players dont care, but a few do [09:20] and one day fight enough to get some movie converted to avhcd (or how it was named) and then I will check my TV capabilities [09:20] warez stuff is normally xvid for obvious reasons === ericm-Zzz is now known as ericm [11:03] sebjan: those images work on lag's panda, thanks a lot, man [11:04] cooloney: I've already emailed sebjan [11:05] Sebjan: What's changed in u-boot lately? Does it now check for system IDs? [11:05] *different system IDs [11:39] ndec: you around? [12:06] lag: I did not have a look, and I did not build myslef the images I provided to you. Will try to get so info about that. [12:08] Thank you sebjan [12:08] lag, the u-boot branch from gitorious.org should be fine, i'll update the ubuntu package soon [12:09] lag, http://www.gitorious.org/pandaboard/u-boot [12:12] ogra: Yes it is. I was just curious as to what the differences were - thirst for knowledge and all that. ;) [12:13] well, the diffs might tell :) [12:17] #define MACH_TYPE_OMAP4_PANDA 2791 [12:17] looks like that one [12:17] from include/asm-arm/mach-types.h [12:23] hate make [12:23] I would if I had the sources for both ;) [12:24] lag, http://www.gitorious.org/pandaboard/u-boot has the source :) [12:25] that was copy pasted from the web ui [12:25] That's the one I do have [12:39] Hello === Guest23625 is now known as JameswStubbs [12:40] Is there an arm version of the Ubuntu Minimal Cd? [12:41] Specifically Karmic ? [12:41] lag: so you can boot with the images I provided to you, but not with the gitorious ones? [12:42] sebjan: I think the ones that were provided for me were the ones used for Blaze [12:42] I don't think they were the gitorious ones [12:43] lag, the ones i provided to you were older panda binaries [12:43] without the sysid in them, they worked on panda and blaze by a matter of luck [12:44] Okay [12:44] there was a change in the panda kernel that now checks for that ID afaik [12:44] Are you going to update your sources? [12:44] yes [12:44] Bump [12:44] Then upload them to your people account? [12:45] no, to maverick :) [12:45] Okay [12:45] https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/u-boot-omap4 [12:46] thats using the sources from omapzoom, predating the panda gitorious tree [12:46] i'll pull in the panda stuff [12:46] What git repos do I need from kernel.ubuntu.com? [12:46] no idea [12:46] aks #ubuntu-kernel :) [12:46] *ask even [12:47] Wont they be the same ones you use? [12:47] Is there an Ubuntu Minimal for the Arm arch? [12:48] JameswStubbs: I don't know the answer for sure, but I wouldn't have thought so [12:48] JameswStubbs: just wait a bit, maybe you will get an answer eventually :) [12:48] JameswStubbs, you can use the server images or a netinstall [12:48] ogra: i dont think a netinstall would be useful :p [12:48] I'll look into the server image for arm thanks ogra [12:49] lilstevie, ?? [12:49] No lilstevie it won't be, can't do a net install when we can't boot :p [12:49] We're porting Ubuntu to iPhone [12:49] ogra: the device we are working on is the iPhone as JameswStubbs just said [12:49] JameswStubbs, oh, then better look at the channel topic for rootfs from scratch [12:49] Debating between using debian armel or ubuntu 9.10 [12:49] use rootstock to create an ubuntu-minimal rootfs [12:50] I'm looking into that aswell :) [12:50] the images we provide are only for supported arches so the server image wont gain you much on an iphone [12:50] JameswStubbs: Is this a project, or are you doing it for a company? [12:50] lag : part of the iDroid project [12:50] lag: its an open source project [12:51] Sounds good. Best of luck with it. [12:51] Thanks, we'll need i [12:51] t [12:51] heh [12:51] * lilstevie is not a fan of having android [12:51] so instead going for something a little more sane :) [12:52] I have to admit, I quite like it [12:52] I have an HTC Desire which I am a fan of [12:52] heh, android is not nice on proprietry devices that have to have drivers written for them, [12:52] Only reason I want it is for GTK Ettercap :) [12:53] I see, and what do you want to do with Ettercap? ;) [12:54] lag: Monitor my own network for educational purposes of course. [12:55] JameswStubbs: Of course. How silly of me! ;) [12:55] lilstevie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Specs/ARMServer [12:56] It's for armv7 though, I think we'll need to rootfs [12:56] i think building a rootfs from scratch will be the easiest for our purposes [12:57] Defiantly do you think we'll still be ok using the iDroid kernel [12:57] ? [12:57] yeah [12:57] ogra: is this the right place to go for advice with rootfs? [13:03] Hm, Can you run rootfs from an x86 machine with the intention of building for Arm? [13:10] orga : ? [13:14] * mozzwald is away: hardly working [13:26] JameswStubbs: Have you tried using rootstock? [13:27] JameswStubbs, yes [13:28] if you use the qemu-arm-static package [13:28] you can a) use rootstock to create a tarball and b) just create armel chroots using qemu-debootstrap [13:30] Thanks, I'll be using rootstock on x86 ubuntu, creating an image, using iDroid's kernel then mounting in qemu [13:31] ogra: So you also need initrd on the card to run? [13:31] lag, you *can* use ubuntu without initrd but i wouldnt recommend it other than for testing [13:31] JameswStubbs: That should work. I'm using rootstock on an x86 machine too [13:31] Is the idea behind rootstock to build a Very minimal system and then to build from there? [13:32] well, depends if the droid kernel has all the features ubuntu uses [13:32] JameswStubbs, yes, use -s ubuntu-minimal [13:32] and do everything you want additional on the real HW [13:32] :p Thanks ogra, I was going to leave the --seed option blank :) [13:33] should work as well [13:33] will result in the same :) [13:34] ogra: So, do I just bang the rootfs.tgz and initrd onto the rootfs partition and expect it to work? [13:34] lag: Are you talking about something different to me? (just stopping myself getting confused :p ) [13:34] what features are required from kernel for ubuntu [13:35] JameswStubbs: Yes, I'm doing something slightly different [13:35] Ok [13:35] with rootstock we need to generate an img [13:35] as openiboot for the iphone loads an img for rootfs [13:36] lag, nope [13:36] lag, you put the rootfs into the rootfs partition [13:36] and initrd wherever your bootloader wants it [13:38] lag, for omap thats usually the first partition on the SD and it should be a vfat [13:38] lilstevie: Yeh that's right, but Idroid has multiple images where as our whole distro will be in one image [13:38] We might have to point oib in a different direction to find the info [13:38] JameswStubbs: thats because they are mounted individually [13:38] So we could probably get away with renaming or image system.img [13:38] initrc points to the other images [13:39] It doesnt do a hash check or anything [13:39] Yeh lilstevie [13:39] so we just need our own init [13:40] make sure that your img usues a supported filesystem [13:41] ogra: So the initrd goes in the /boot partition then? [13:41] no [13:41] it goes into the vfat [13:42] and you need to specify it in your bootm command for u-boot [13:42] /dev/sde1 on /media/boot type vfat [13:42] well, you labeled it boot :) [13:42] I didn't [13:42] something did [13:42] The script that cooloney pointed me to did [13:42] :) [13:42] ah [13:43] lilstevie: We wouldn't necesarily need our own init, simply modify iDroids to point to the right images [13:43] its not /boot (and cant be) [13:43] it just smells like /boot :) [13:43] Mm, fresh smell of /boot in the morning [13:43] eh? [13:43] /boot cant be vfat on debian based systems [13:44] dpkg unpacks the kernel there, while unpacking it creates hardlinks of the former files [13:45] Oh okay, it's just the partition label [13:45] It won't actually be /boot, as in /boot/grub [13:45] vfat doesnt support hardlinks [13:45] so /boot cant be vfat [13:45] But yes, I see what you mean [13:46] right [13:46] Perhaps it's a confusing name [13:46] its still your boot-partition [13:46] but you cant mount it as /boot [13:46] Correct [13:46] Which is where the initrc needs to go, correct? [13:47] since our kernels and initrds live in /boot, we have a tool called flash-kernel thats works around this prob [13:47] its usually called buy update-initramfs (which in turn is called by the kernel package when you install it) [13:47] flash-kernel mounts /dev/mmcblk0p1 and runs mkimage for kernel and initrd to create uInitrd and uImage [13:48] (or at least iots supposed to, it doesnt do that for the panda or beagle yet, i will have to write some code still) [13:51] lag, mkimage -A arm -O linux -T ramdisk -C none -a 0x0 -e 0x0 -n "Ubuntu Initrd" -d /path/to/initrd.img-$ver uInitrd [13:51] you will need that [13:51] Ag [13:51] Ah* [13:51] fatload mmc 0:1 0x80000000 uImage [13:52] fatload mmc 0:1 0x81600000 uInitrd [13:52] bootm 0x80000000 0x81600000 [13:52] thats for the u-boot prompt [13:52] and should get you a boot with initrd [13:54] So the uImage and the uInitrd go on the same place on the SD card? [13:56] right, into the vfat [13:57] Yep [13:57] And is the rootfs okay to go in as a tgz? [13:57] Or should I unpack it first? [13:57] Thanks again for your help ogra [13:58] lag, format the partition and unpack [13:58] JameswStubbs, welcome, good luck [13:59] Thought as much [13:59] * lag wondered when they'd put tgz support into the kernel [14:01] heh [14:08] NCommander, bah, bug 583317 will bite us badly [14:08] Launchpad bug 583317 in genext2fs (Ubuntu) "genext2fs creates revision 0 filesystems instead of revision 1 (affects: 1) (heat: 156)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/583317 [14:19] ha ! [14:19] finally [14:19] how silly [14:20] * ogra finally found the reason why resize2fs didnt work in initramfs ... seems it has a call to /etc/mtab hardcoded [14:36] Is the rootfs created by rootstock meant to pull up a terminal? === ericm is now known as ericm-afk [14:37] lag, yep [14:37] Freeing init memory: 192K [14:37] init: ureadahead main process (55) terminated with status 5 [14:37] twl: i2c_write failed to transfer all messages [14:37] i2c_omap i2c_omap.1: controller timed out [14:37] twl: i2c_read failed to transfer all messages [14:37] twl6030_bci: error reading CONTROLLER_CTRL1 [14:37] Then nothing [14:38] whats your console= setting in the cmdline ? [14:38] and what was the rootstock cmdline you used :) [14:39] by default ubuntu has no serial getty running ... you can enable it in rootstock with the --serial switch [14:40] I did that [14:40] Let me have a play [14:40] do you have a monitor attached ? [14:40] i'm pretty sure you have a login prompt on tty1 :) [14:40] I don't have a monitor which supports HDMI [14:40] you should get one :) [14:41] or DVI at least and an adapter [14:41] cheapest lcd with dvi is enough for BB [14:41] True HDMI doesn't work with adaptors [14:42] lag: define 'true hdmi' please [14:42] hrw, the panda has hdmi [14:42] True HDMI sends co-data to control the output settings [14:42] ogra: with audio over hdmi or just hdmi connector? [14:43] lag: you mean HDMI/CI? [14:43] I forget what it's called [14:43] CI or CEC - adapted from SCART connector [14:43] hrw, the current build i have has a headphone jack and two HDMI ports [14:43] I just know that when I was working on set-top boxes some worked with a connector and some didn't [14:43] used to say 'TV - I am here, switch to my hdmi port' [14:43] hrw, but that might change [14:44] Could well be [14:44] Will the Panda work with a connector? [14:44] BB has hdmi connector just because it is smaller then dvi. works fine with hdmi->hdmi cable and with hdmi->hdmi-to-dvi adapters [14:44] so far worked for me with dvi monitors and hdmi tv [14:44] lag, i havent booted mine beyond the uboot prompt yet [14:44] What about Panda? [14:45] ogra: Why so? [14:45] Aren't you working on the kernel? [14:45] while the BB has DVI i think the panda has HDMI [14:45] lag, i'm working on all the rest :) [14:45] Right, so the connector will be no good? [14:45] yeah, likely [14:46] Well I don't want to outlay for a new monitor :S [14:49] * ogra stbs jasper [14:49] *stabs even [15:05] cooloney: ping [15:11] lag: lee, man [15:12] ubuntu@panda:~$ ls / [15:12] bin dev home lost+found mnt proc sbin srv tmp var [15:12] boot etc lib media opt root selinux sys usr [15:12] Good work [15:13] cooloney: --^ [15:13] lag: haha, cong, man [15:14] cong? [15:14] lag: very good news before my sleep. you built your own u-boot to make it boot? [15:14] lag: sorry, congrats [15:14] The u-boot I was trying to use didn't pass the kernel's system ID check [15:14] king cong :) [15:15] (very big congrats) [15:15] ogra: lol [15:15] You mean King Kong? [15:15] pfft [15:15] chars [15:15] lag: hmm, that reminds me a warning message from dmesg [15:15] Oh? [15:16] lag: Uninitialized omap_chip, please fix! [15:16] did you see that in your dmesg? [15:16] Oh yeah, I see it [15:16] Yeah, it's in dmesg [15:16] the kernel code checked omap cpu id or system id something like that [15:16] ubuntu@panda:~$ dmesg | grep -i omap_chip [15:16] Uninitialized omap_chip, please fix! [15:16] and failed [15:17] then print out this [15:17] maybe relatedt [15:17] i will check them later [15:17] lag, thanks for testing, man [15:17] * cooloney gonna sleep now. [15:17] No problem - speak to you tomorrow [15:18] have a nice day, guys === bjf[afk] is now known as bjf [15:32] ogra: any issues with pandaboard or trees? [15:32] orbarron, see above, lag successfully booted his panda [15:32] * orbarron reads... [15:32] i'm currently hogged with image building which i do on a C4 [15:33] not much spare time for omap4 work here [15:34] np... [15:44] lag: pandaboard has DVI + HDMI and HDMI to DVI connection will work with a small hack [15:48] I should have a monitor with HDMI built-in with me tomorrow [15:49] What would the hack be? [15:52] * orbarron dealing with dsi clk issues but for the mean time you can do this --> http://pastebin.com/8LVZYWnx [15:53] orbarron: hi Omar [15:53] hrw: sup... [15:53] asac [16:04] mpoirier_: !! [16:05] asac: good morning. [16:05] asac: ogra tells me you have a beagleboard C4 - is this correct ? [16:06] mpoirier_: why? ;) [16:07] asac: I could use it if you don't need it. [16:07] I need it [16:07] asac, mpoirier is our new omap3 maintainer in the kernel team [16:07] mpoirier_: alread discused with ogra. we gave boards to davidm for distro [16:07] mpoirier, we're waiting for feedback from lool, he should know what happened to the missing boards [16:08] if nothing helps and its urgent i would suggest to buy a board ;) [16:08] according to asac they should all be at davidm's place [16:09] ogra: and davidm is coming back next week ? [16:09] will be faster to wait until next week [16:09] mpoirier_, yes [16:09] asac, and we *have* 7 boards in mobile [16:09] its just a matter where they actually are [16:09] well ... one dev blocked for half a day is probably more expensive than a board ;) [16:10] and we are already pulling in 4 devs into this discussion ;) [16:10] asac, ordering and shipping a beagle takes more than a weekend [16:10] 4 ? [16:10] me you mpoirier_ and lool [16:10] well, no trace of lool :) [16:10] so 3 :P [16:11] but lool will have to read plenty of backlog now ;) [16:12] anyway ... mpoirier_: welcome! [16:22] mpoirier_, GrueMaster is your guineapig ! [16:23] ogra: cool - thanks. [16:24] GrueMaster: can I send you a uImage ? [16:27] Or post it online and I can download it. [16:58] asac: Is the backlog relevant still? [16:58] I read this channel usually, but I wont make the full backlog Im afraid [16:58] hey mpoirier_! [16:59] lool: good morning. [16:59] lool: I need a beableboard C4, do you need yours ? [16:59] lool, it isnt [16:59] lool: what version then ? [16:59] lool, the discussion in the other channel solved itr [16:59] mpoirier_: Mine is a C3 and is personally owned [17:00] *it [17:00] mpoirier_, see PM [17:00] mpoirier_: I understand that if you want to find an idle one, you should ask davidm cause he might have a couple of spare ones [17:00] lool: yes, he's on vacation. [17:00] mpoirier_: If that blocks you in anyway, I highly recommend you talk to your manager: buying it and expensing it might be cheaper than the time you're losing searching for one [17:00] lool, for now GrueMaster will help testing [17:01] mpoirier_: Are you testing kernels? [17:01] mpoirier_: You could also use qemu-maemo :-) [17:01] (/me lols) [17:01] *grin* [17:01] lool: yes, I ping'ed you before GrueMaster got on board. [17:01] lool: I need real Hw [17:01] mpoirier_: So mattman has been making progress on booting up to a framebuffer our regular Ubuntu omap kernels in qemu-maemo + his patches [17:02] lool: I'm after a misbehaving SD card controller. [17:02] mpoirier_: So perhaps you can ask pgraner whether you can expense it? [17:02] lool: yes, that is also in the works. [17:02] lool, davidm shoudl be able to send one out on monday [17:03] Up to you guys, many options on the table [17:03] lool: ogra is correct. [17:03] so it should arrive on wed. on CDN [17:03] *in [17:03] lool: thanks for getting back to me. [17:03] lool: nope [17:04] orga: I'm curious...Is there any stats on how many people actually downloaded the 10.04 Ubuntu image for beagleboard from ubuntu.com ? Who would know this detail [17:04] jayabharath, hmm, no idea, our is team probably, try to ask elmo in #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-release [17:04] ok [17:05] orga: Also, I got a bunch of beagle folks a little annoyed with the way Ubunutu CD images.. work... it boots up from SD... overwrite the uboot on nand... messes with the existing SD card... [17:05] (i guess -release is the better channel for that) [17:05] orga: Will check on -release channel [17:05] jayabharath, yeah, that will be fixed in maverick [17:05] have nice day [17:06] jayabharath, i wanted to use a vfat partition but had no time left to implement that, NAND was the quickest way back then [17:06] orga: I see... [17:06] maverick will be quite different in that regard [17:07] orga: gotcha.. wanted to feed this input back to you... [17:07] orga: As you are changing behavior feel free to discuss on #beagle channel too... [17:07]