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cjohnstonkwwii: ping01:34
kwwiicjohnston: pong09:35
cjohnstonkwwii: are you still around?13:00
knomeprobably not :)13:00
kwwiihi13:01
knomeoooh13:01
kwwiicjohnston: pong13:01
cjohnstonkwwii: I am working on redoing the community page on the ubuntu website for Jono.. (http://ubuntu.com/community)... We are wanting to put in more detailed info about getting involved with the different areas of the ubuntu community... artwork being one.. I am looking for someone to write some info following a structure provided by Jono for us to use about artwork.. Would you be able to do it? You can see more info13:03
kwwiicjohnston: I guess I would be the right person to take care of that13:05
cjohnstonIs that something you could do in the next couple of days?13:05
kwwiicjohnston: can you send me an email with any details?13:05
kwwiicjohnston: yes, I am about to board a train for 4 hours ;-)13:05
cjohnstonSure...13:06
cjohnstonoh fun..13:06
cjohnstonkwwii@u.c or something else?13:06
kwwiithat will work fine13:06
cjohnstonI will work on sending it now.. Thanks!13:07
kwwiinp, glad to help13:07
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thorwili have a single panel on the top, including window buttons. after a few days, the min/max wm buttons pointing down and up still throw me off :}17:27
vishpretty awesome stuff http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2010-deus-ex/100909 !19:58
thorwilvish: looks like it owes quite a bit to GITS20:17
vishthorwil: storyline maybe. but the graphics are un-freaking-believable!20:18
thorwilah, the theme thread on the ayatana list is a great opportunity to reach new levels of uselessness ^^20:18
vishthorwil: heh , i was wondering when Dani would mention that on ayatana ;p20:19
vishthorwil: he had mailed me once saying there is no discussion on artwork about the themes!20:19
vishthe default ones20:19
thorwilvish: i could create a long lists of issues with the theme, but with unclear goals/objectives and often no clue what is and isn't as intended or what is caused by technical issues ...20:23
thorwilvish: instead we get to see another "it's bad" vs "no, your wrong, can't you see it's good!"20:25
vishthorwil: any opinions are just subjective/personal and not really useful atm20:25
vishthorwil: having an engine and just tweaking colors are calling one theme more Usable is really silly. I'm not sure why he says elementary is more usable. though I use it ;p20:26
vish colors and*20:27
thorwilvish: well, the default selection colors in Ambiance don't allow one to distinguish between focused or not easily. the dark buttons reduce contrast quite a bit20:28
thorwilselected items in side panels look too much like buttons20:29
thorwilvish: so there's a lot happening with just tweaking colors ;)20:29
vishha , that is a bug. no sure that is USABILITY ;p20:29
thorwilvish: like i said, how would i know what is and isn't intentional? it's not like anyway would talk to me about that20:30
vish:)20:30
vishwe really need a murrine fork... new ideas. new design. new style20:32
vishthorwil: his earlier mail was funnier when he tried to make the ubuntu-mono icons use tango palette ;p20:35
thorwilvish: wow. only proposing that tango switches to the mono palette could beat that20:39
vishhehe .20:40
vishthorwil: was there any research about the tango palette , for "Usability" ?20:42
vishi mean was the palette chosen for usability or for consistency20:42
thorwilvish: i think it was designed to step on no one's feet. rumor has it color vision impaired designers were involved20:50
vishthorwil: yeah , when Dani had sent the earlier mail about the tango palette, he mentioned that. and i was wonderinf why nothing about the "research" is ever mentioned on the site. and i had not heard of it being researched either20:52
thorwilvish: i don't know where that idea comes from. from what i know, at the beginning, it was all about having a style and palette that would allow the icons to blend in on windows, mac and linux (or should i say gnome?) ...20:55
thorwilcue troy complaining about how trying to work in any context leads to never being great20:57
thorwilgood night! :)20:57
vishyeah , seems sometimes Dani gets confused ;p  like saying that the elementary theme "they take years to improve this theme" , the theme hasnt even been there for 8months ;p and equinox is even shoprter20:57
vishthorwil: nite!20:57
amanthethy@Kwwii: If you weren't aware as yet, the first link in the topic doesn't exist (wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/VisualIdentity23:53

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