/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/06/09/#ubuntu-beginners.txt

paultagbgs100, compiledkernel meeting time :)00:00
phillwpaultag: may i attend as an observer?00:01
paultagphillw, of course00:01
phillwthanks00:01
n8ofsp8dshey guys im to ubuntu and i trying to install abgx360 how do i do that00:26
n8ofsp8dsnew00:26
n8ofsp8dsi know you got the software center for  most of the stuff you need but how do you install programs from websites00:27
n8ofsp8dsother00:28
ChesamoWell that depends on how it's packaged00:28
Chesamocan you link it for me?00:28
pedro3005does it work on Linux?00:28
n8ofsp8dsok00:28
n8ofsp8dshttp://abgx360.net/download.html00:28
ChesamoDownloading now00:29
ChesamoHave you extracted the archive?00:30
n8ofsp8dsya00:30
n8ofsp8dsabgx360-1.0.2.tar.gz i get this one right00:30
Chesamoyes00:30
ChesamoHave you unarchived the files?00:31
n8ofsp8dsok im going to redo it00:31
n8ofsp8dsok im at the archive screen00:32
n8ofsp8dshit extract00:32
n8ofsp8ds?00:32
Chesamoyes00:34
n8ofsp8dsok did that00:34
n8ofsp8dsnow what00:34
Chesamoopen Terminal00:34
n8ofsp8dsok00:34
n8ofsp8dsdid that00:34
Chesamocd /path/to/unarchived/file00:35
n8ofsp8dsok00:35
n8ofsp8dsno such file00:35
Chesamoum, not word-for-word00:36
ChesamoWhere did you unarchive the file?00:36
n8ofsp8dsdesktop00:37
Chesamookay00:37
Chesamocd ~/Desktop00:37
n8ofsp8dsok00:38
n8ofsp8dsnow what00:38
Chesamowhat's the name of the unarchived folder?00:38
n8ofsp8dsabgx-1.0.200:38
Chesamocd abgx-1.0.200:38
ChesamoThen type "make"00:38
n8ofsp8dsso cd abgx1.0.2 the type make after it then enter00:40
ChesamoNo00:41
Chesamocd abgx1.0.2 <enter> make <enter>00:41
n8ofsp8dsoops sorry00:41
n8ofsp8dsok00:45
n8ofsp8dsnow what00:45
ChesamoWhat did make do?00:46
n8ofsp8dsgave this >00:47
n8ofsp8dsme00:47
ChesamoJust a carat? Hm00:47
Chesamoctrl+c00:47
Chesamotry sudo make install00:47
Chesamon8ofsp8ds00:50
ChesamoSorry, I forgot something00:51
n8ofsp8dsya00:51
n8ofsp8dsthanks its not working00:51
Chesamocancel whatever it's doing00:51
n8ofsp8dswhat is it00:51
n8ofsp8dsalright00:51
Chesamotype ./configure <enter>00:51
n8ofsp8dssays no such file00:52
Chesamodid you do the period-slash?00:52
n8ofsp8dsyep00:52
n8ofsp8dsbash no such file00:52
ChesamoAnd you're in the abgx360-1.0.2 file?00:52
n8ofsp8dsnow i am00:53
ChesamoYou should have stayed there00:53
n8ofsp8dsso keep the file open00:54
n8ofsp8dsthen what00:54
Chesamo...00:54
ChesamoAre you in Terminal?00:54
n8ofsp8dsyep00:54
ChesamoDo you know how Terminal works?00:54
n8ofsp8dsnah man im noob00:54
n8ofsp8dsswitching from windows to ubuntu00:55
ChesamoOkay well you'll have to get some stuff first00:55
Chesamosudo aptitude 0y install gcc00:55
ChesamoEr00:55
Chesamosudo aptitude -y install gcc00:55
Chesamoand then sudo aptitude -y install libcurl4-gnutls-dev00:55
n8ofsp8dsso put  this in the terminal00:57
Chesamoyes00:57
Chesamothose are terminal commands00:57
Chesamoaptitude is an installer program, it's going to download and install what are known as "dependency files"00:57
n8ofsp8dsok just did sudo aptitude00:58
n8ofsp8dsnow the other one00:58
n8ofsp8dslibcurl4-gnutls-dev00:58
ChesamoWait, what?00:58
n8ofsp8dsjust did  sudo aptitude -y install00:58
n8ofsp8dswhat the next step00:59
paultagbe careful with that n8ofsp8ds00:59
paultagn8ofsp8ds, you might run out of disk space because it wants to install 30 GB :)00:59
n8ofsp8dsi partition with 210 gb00:59
n8ofsp8dsno worrys00:59
Chesamo30GB?01:00
Chesamogcc and libcurl don't take up that much room01:00
paultagChesamo, I'm joking :)01:00
Chesamo:P01:00
paultagI'm just saying, watch whatcha install!01:00
n8ofsp8dswhat do i do after this command sudo aptitude -y install01:00
Chesamoall of it?01:01
Chesamothat was fast01:01
n8ofsp8dswell i put that in01:01
n8ofsp8dsand a whole but of stuff installed01:01
n8ofsp8dsin termal01:02
Chesamookay.01:02
Chesamoyou're still in the abgx360-1.0.2 file?01:02
n8ofsp8dsyep01:02
Chesamonow type ./configure01:03
n8ofsp8dsbash01:03
n8ofsp8dsno such file directory01:04
Chesamohttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/ pastebin the output of the ls command01:04
Chesamothat's LS only lowercase01:04
n8ofsp8dsi know01:04
n8ofsp8dsok i did something wrong hold up01:06
Chesamohm?01:06
n8ofsp8dslibcurl4-gnutls-dev where i put that01:07
Chesamoon the same line as sudo aptitude -y install01:07
n8ofsp8dsok now there we go01:08
n8ofsp8dswaiting to put ./config01:09
n8ofsp8dsok everthing else worked01:10
n8ofsp8ds but the ./configure01:10
Chesamopastebin the output of ls01:11
ZeRoDeAtH50435still cannot get vbox to connect to the Internet01:11
n8ofsp8dshttp://pastebin.com/bJB62LFM01:13
Chesamon8ofsp8ds That's not ls01:13
Chesamon8ofsp8ds That's just the current buffer01:14
Chesamon8ofsp8ds Try this: "ls > pastebin && gedit pastebin"01:14
n8ofsp8dsok i put it in ged it01:15
ZeRoDeAtH50435how do I setup vbox to connect to the Internet01:18
n8ofsp8dschesamo01:18
ChesamoYes?01:18
n8ofsp8dsi put it in ged it now what01:19
Chesamo"gedit" is the name of the program. Take what's in there and Pastebin it.01:19
n8ofsp8dsok did that01:20
Chesamo...where's the pastebin link>01:20
Chesamo?*01:20
n8ofsp8dshttp://pastebin.com/hEmCnS7t01:22
Chesamo....no, no no.01:22
n8ofsp8dsthen i dont know01:22
Chesamocopy the next line and paste it into Terminal:01:22
Chesamols > pastebin && gedit pastebin01:23
ChesamoDon't alter anything, just copy and paste01:23
n8ofsp8dsok did that went gedit01:24
ChesamoYes01:24
ChesamoNow paste what's in gedit into pastebin01:24
ZeRoDeAtH50435anyone know anything about vbox01:25
n8ofsp8dshttp://pastebin.com/Ea1q86mq01:25
n8ofsp8dsi had to open a new terminal the other just giving another carrot01:26
ChesamoOkay, well, you're not in the right folder, first of all.01:26
Chesamon8ofsp8ds if the carat happens again, hit ctrl+c to close the process.01:26
n8ofsp8dsgave the same thing again01:27
Chesamon8ofsp8ds you01:27
Chesamoyou're not in the right folder01:27
Chesamocd Desktop/abgx360-1.0.201:27
n8ofsp8dshttp://pastebin.com/wubxLyXH01:28
n8ofsp8dsi think i got it right this time lol01:29
ChesamoNow type ./configure01:29
n8ofsp8dsok the ./configure work01:30
n8ofsp8dsnow what01:31
Chesamotype make01:32
n8ofsp8dsok that work01:32
Chesamotype sudo make install01:32
n8ofsp8dsok01:33
n8ofsp8dsmake nothing to be done01:33
n8ofsp8dsleaving directory01:34
n8ofsp8dsdid i do something wrong01:35
Chesamosorry what01:35
ChesamoI need more details than that01:36
n8ofsp8dshttp://pastebin.com/7BC6McDV01:36
Chesamotype abgx36001:37
n8ofsp8dsok01:37
n8ofsp8dsin a different terminal screen01:38
Chesamodoesn't matter01:38
n8ofsp8dsso im in a terminal version of the program01:38
ChesamoOkay01:40
ChesamoThe program's installed01:40
n8ofsp8dsso is there program out side the terminal01:40
n8ofsp8dsor do i need to get a gui  of it01:40
ChesamoYou can get a GUI, it's on the downloads page01:41
n8ofsp8dsok01:41
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aluexI met a English problem in my homework..need help02:03
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pedro3005sure?02:04
aluexThis toy car is p_____. Just wind this knob and let it off your hand, then it will run.02:04
aluexfill in the blank02:05
pedro3005priceless? :P02:06
Chesamoany synonyms for "automatic" start with P?02:08
aluexi dont know..02:09
pedro3005well, in my view, any word that fits is good02:10
aluex?02:11
Vantraxaluex, perfect, priceless... if your in the hood... pimp02:12
Vantraxthere can be alot of words that fit02:12
aluexok. perfect maybe perfect02:12
pedro3005pretty02:13
pedro3005Vantrax, a lot :p02:13
aluexanother one: Golf has gained p_____ among the wealthy in my country.02:13
Vantraxunless its talking about the actual mechanism and there is a p word that describes it but pneumatic doesnt fit02:13
Vantraxpopularity02:13
Vantraxthat is far simpler02:13
aluexoh,thank you02:13
aluexbut what does wealthy mean here?02:14
Vantraxtell me again why we are doing your homework?02:14
Vantraxwealthy =  rich02:14
pedro3005rich02:14
pedro3005high class02:14
pedro3005aristocracy :P02:14
Vantraxlots of mulah02:14
Vantraxnot really aristocracy, you can be that and poor02:14
Vantraxthats a birthright02:15
aluexok.thank you all . :-)02:15
DarkwingDuckVantrax: I wasn't meaning to offend you02:27
paultagDarkwingDuck, did I miss an email from the ML ?02:27
paultagDarkwingDuck, it looks like you posted twice02:28
DarkwingDuckYeah, Vantrax email didn't go through the ML02:28
paultagVantrax, if it was not private, do you mind forwarding it to the ML ?02:29
DarkwingDuckIt shoudl have gone...02:29
DarkwingDuckIt was CCed02:29
paultagdid it get bounced ?02:29
DarkwingDuckGuess so...02:29
paultagyou should always use your approved email to post on the ML >:(02:30
DarkwingDucklol02:30
paultaghey collinp02:31
paultagnice hostmask ZachK_02:33
paultagZachK_, I take it the meeting went well?02:34
ZachK_:D02:34
ZachK_paultag: yes!02:34
paultagcongrats ZachK_02:34
ZachK_ty paultag02:34
paultagno problem02:34
DarkwingDuckCongrats ZachK_ Welcome to the club02:34
ZachK_DarkwingDuck: :D02:34
paultagDarkwingDuck, I need to go for Kubuntu stuff, but I don't do shit for them. I wear my Kubuntu t-shirt to any events where there might be Ubuntu folk02:35
paultagDarkwingDuck, I should step up my game.02:35
tenachpaultag, yes you should.02:36
cmgdoes anyone know how to go back to the default repositories?02:36
paultagcmg, perhaps02:36
paultagcmg, what's the output of lsb_release -a02:36
DarkwingDuckpaultag: LOL02:36
paultagDarkwingDuck, I need to see what version of what distro :)02:37
DarkwingDuckpaultag: we are always looking for help over there02:37
paultagDarkwingDuck, Ah, haha02:37
paultagDarkwingDuck, well I don't know where to contribute, it's a tight community02:37
paultagcmg, any luck?02:37
cmg so you needed to know what distro and release?02:38
cmgUbuntu 10.04 LTS02:38
paultagcmg,02:38
paultagcmg, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list02:38
DarkwingDuckcome by #kubuntu-devel and talk to JontheEchidna or apachelogger. If you want to help with netbook talk to ScottK. If you want to help with documentation talk to this nutcase DarkwingDuck02:38
paultagcmg, paste this in here -- http://pastebin.com/C3wpHqiB02:38
paultagDarkwingDuck, :P02:38
* ZachK_ will be back soon02:39
DarkwingDuckYou know QT?02:39
paultagDarkwingDuck, I'm not good enough with packaging to help a ton with that02:39
paultagDarkwingDuck, hell yeah. I contributed to the Marble project02:39
DarkwingDuckhelp with what? documentation?02:39
paultagDarkwingDuck, packaging02:39
DarkwingDuckahhh02:39
DarkwingDuckI need to learn.02:39
paultagDarkwingDuck, it's rough with dpkg02:40
cmgwhat do you want me to do with the list?02:40
tenachI should learn how to package too02:40
paultagcmg, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list02:40
DarkwingDuckBut, I'll stick with documentation both Kubuntu and I'm helping upstream too02:40
paultagcmg, cut the text from -- http://pastebin.com/C3wpHqiB -- and paste it over whatever is in there02:40
paultagcmg, then run sudo apt-get update02:40
paultagDarkwingDuck, aye02:40
cmgokay ill give it a shot02:40
paultagtenach, it sucks02:40
paultagcmg, let me know :)02:40
DarkwingDuckpaultag: so, for now I'll stick with that and once I become a UBT member I'll do more in here :P:P02:41
paultagDarkwingDuck, aye :)02:41
paultagDarkwingDuck, is there a lot of programming with kubuntu devel?02:42
DarkwingDuckC++  and QT02:42
DarkwingDuckGimme a sec... I'm looking for the ToDo list for Maverick02:43
paultagkk tyt02:43
paultagcmg, any luck?02:43
cmgupdating now02:43
DarkwingDuckpaultag: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo02:43
paultagcmg, :)02:43
paultaglet me read thru that DarkwingDuck, ty02:44
DarkwingDuckpaultag: NE time02:44
cmgokay comes back with the error. --2010-06-08 is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/sources.list.d/mediaubuntu.list02:45
Chesamopaultag, gksudo, not sudo :P02:46
paultagAhha!02:46
tenachChesamo, I have never used gksudo for anything - what's the difference?02:46
paultagChesamo, valid :)02:46
paultagtenach, it's GUI02:46
Chesamotenach, gksudo is for graphical apps02:46
tenachAh.02:46
tenachI've never done that, just sudo everything ,including graphicall apps02:46
paultagcmg, gksudo rm /etc/sources.list.d/mediaubuntu.list02:46
Chesamotenach, sudo is usually good, but it can occasionally bugger up GUI programs02:46
paultagit's nice tenach02:46
Chesamocmg, no that's sudo02:46
Chesamo:P02:46
paultagOh goddamnit Chesamo02:47
cmghahah okay ill give it a shot02:47
Chesamotenach, paultag, cmg: gksudo is for graphical apps and sudo is for CLI apps02:47
paultagcmg, use sudo. Listen to the lady :)02:47
ChesamoNow you know! :P02:47
tenach:D02:47
paultagChesamo, :)02:47
tenachYesh. I get it02:47
paultagChesamo, I need people like you to keep me in check :)02:47
paultagcan't let my know-how get out of date02:47
Chesamopaultag: ;-)02:47
DarkwingDuckgksudo doesn't work for me :P:P:P02:48
paultagDarkwingDuck, damn kubuntu luser02:48
paultag>:D02:48
DarkwingDuckLOL02:48
DarkwingDuckKDE RULEZ02:48
cmgnow it says it cant be removed because it doesnt exit -_-02:48
paultagDarkwingDuck, dude, I was repping hard!02:48
paultagcmg, paste this exactly:02:48
paultagcmg, sudo rm /etc/sources.list.d/mediaubuntu.list02:48
DarkwingDuckWife and son (5 years old) use Ubuntu and I use Kubuntu on both my desktop and tablet02:49
paultagDarkwingDuck, check this out02:49
paultagDarkwingDuck, http://people.ubuntu.com/~paultag/UbuntuHour/Mass/02:50
paultagDarkwingDuck, I'm the one in the Kubuntu shirt :)02:50
paultagDarkwingDuck, that was at the MA Ubuntu Hour02:50
DarkwingDuckSWEEEEEET02:50
DarkwingDuckWait, you use Kubuntu?02:50
DarkwingDuck:P:P02:50
paultagDarkwingDuck, goddamnit, duh02:50
cmgno luck still and btw i cant copy and paste im on two different machines02:50
paultagcmg, OK, cool02:51
DarkwingDuck>:D02:51
paultagcmg, try an update. If that fails give us the output of "ls /etc/sources.list.d/"02:51
paultagcmg, you might have killed it already :)02:51
cmghold on, i wasnt in the /etc directory could that be the problem?02:51
paultagcmg, nah, I gave you absolute paths02:52
paultagcmg, you should be ok02:52
cmgokay ill check if the dir is still there then02:52
paultagcmg, the dir is OK02:52
paultagcmg, you just don't want the errorful mediaubuntu source file02:52
Darkness_DesMay I ask a few questions about a BASH script I'm writing?02:53
paultagDarkness_Des, don't ask to ask, just ask! :)02:53
paultagDarkness_Des, we're a friendly bunch, we won't bite02:54
paultagit's -beginners for a reason :)02:54
cmgi check the dir and they files are still there, just kill them i suppose?02:54
paultagcmg, please :)02:54
paultagcmg, looks like the mediaubuntu.list file02:54
paultagcmg, don't remove any directories02:54
cmgi took out the list files02:55
paultagcmg, _just_ the mediaubuntu one, right?02:55
paultagcmg, the sources.list in the /etc/apt/ is critical02:55
Darkness_DesThanks ^_^. I can assure you that this is *probably* going to be extremely dumb. I'm uploading the script to sendspace so you can see what I'm talking about.02:56
Darkness_Deshttp://www.sendspace.com/file/ek5rv602:56
paultagDarkness_Des, no dumb questions here :)02:56
cmgthere was a medibuntu.list and mediabuntu.list that i removed and i just started my update, so far so good02:56
paultagcmg, kk, awesome02:56
paultagDarkness_Des, sorry to do this to you, but do you mind using pastebin?02:56
Darkness_DesNot at all.02:56
paultagDarkness_Des, it makes it easy to go back and forth02:56
cmgworked great i really appriciate it :)02:56
paultagDarkness_Des, http://pastebin.com/02:56
ZachK_!pastebin | Darkness_Des02:57
paultagcmg, of course :)02:57
ubot2Darkness_Des: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.02:57
paultagty ZachK_02:57
ZachK_damn paultag you beat me too it02:57
Darkness_Deshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/446967/02:57
Darkness_DesThere you go.02:57
paultagty Darkness_Des02:57
paultagNice :)02:57
paultagso what's the question Darkness_Des?02:58
Darkness_DesThanks. I've been working on BASH for a while but this one area in particular is a bit difficult to me...02:58
cmgone last problem haha02:58
cmghow do i install the java VM?02:58
paultagcmg, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk02:59
Chesamocmg sudo aptitude install sun-jaba6-jre02:59
paultagdoh02:59
paultag+1 Chesamo02:59
paultagDarkness_Des, sure02:59
Chesamopaultag :P02:59
paultagDarkness_Des, where are you getting hung up?02:59
paultagChesamo, I have my hands bound for development02:59
paultagall I can think of :)02:59
Darkness_DesIt's hard to phrase this question, so bear with me. Whenever I try to make the for statements read the file that Zenity output, it downloads all scripts instead of the ones mentioned in the .installer file.02:59
Chesamopaultag: understandablt :P02:59
Chesamounderstandable*02:59
cmgwhats the differenc of sptitude and apt-get?02:59
paultagcmg, dependency handling03:00
paultagDarkness_Des, ahha. One sec, let me go into detail03:00
paultagHummm, I think I see the issue03:01
Darkness_DesAll help is appreciated.03:01
paultaglet me test Darkness_Des03:02
Darkness_DesOk!03:02
paultagDarkness_Des, one more sec, almost have it03:04
paultagjust want to make sure it's all bug free03:05
Darkness_DesFine by me, I've been trying to do the same thing for over an hour.03:06
ZachK_hello Appl603:10
paultagOne more minute or two Darkness_Des, dumb syntax issue03:10
Darkness_DesPerfectly okay. I have until 10:15, so if it's not finished by then would you mind sending me the incomplete script and I'll see if I can figure it out from there?03:11
paultagDarkness_Des, sure, np. It's a stupid error ( and I've been doing bash for a while so it's because of the loop I'm doing ) I just have to read a few man pages to find this bug03:12
Darkness_DesAlright. Thank you very much, you're a very big help.03:12
paultagit's no problem03:13
* ZachK_ thinks paultag rocks03:13
Darkness_DesI do too.03:13
paultagfuck it, I'll refactor03:14
paultagOne sec03:14
paultaggot it, I think03:15
Chesamo!language paultag03:15
ubot2Chesamo: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)03:15
Chesamo:c03:15
ChesamoI thought you were :c03:15
paultagOK I know you have to go Darkness_Des. Here is what I have03:16
Chesamo!language |paultag03:16
ubot2paultag: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.03:16
Darkness_DesThe people who made this channel have a nice sense of humor.03:16
ChesamoThere.03:16
paultagDarkness_Des, http://paste.ubuntu.com/446970/03:16
ZachK_Darkness_Des: we are a bit strange03:16
paultagDarkness_Des, gee thanks03:16
Darkness_Des(That was mean)03:16
paultagDarkness_Des, that is refactored a bit. I ditched a case ( the right way to do it ) because it has crappy syntax03:16
paultagDarkness_Des, I swear the guy who made bash was dyslexic "Humm, if to start, fi to end"03:17
Darkness_DesHehehe.03:17
paultagDarkness_Des, there is an x before the vars incase $x is null03:17
paultagDarkness_Des, just fyi03:17
Appl6The first line should be #!/bin/bash.03:17
paultagAh duh03:18
paultagthanks Appl603:18
Darkness_DesThank you very much! I'll be sure to look out for that.03:18
paultagDarkness_Des, Appl6 is right03:18
paultagDarkness_Des, I missed the ! in the shabang03:18
Darkness_DesI've always wondered how to pronounce that... No worries, I'll put it in.03:18
paultag:P03:18
paultagDarkness_Des, godspeed! looks like it will be snazzy when it's done. Cool project :)03:18
paultagDarkness_Des, keep on keepen n03:19
paultagon *03:19
Darkness_DesYou too.03:19
paultagaye aye03:19
Darkness_DesHopefully I'll talk to you later. Godbye for now.03:19
paultagcheers Darkness_Des03:19
paultag!paultag | Chesamo03:19
ubot2Factoid 'paultag' not found03:19
ChesamoTehehe03:19
paultagOh damnit, I forgot votebot is gone03:19
paultagheyya nhandler03:19
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ZachK_!Language | paultag!03:20
ubot2paultag!: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.03:20
paultagShucks, what was my old factoid?03:21
ZachK_suck  my keyboard03:21
paultagYou're peevish chastity is not worth a breakfast in the cheapest country03:21
paultagI think thats it03:21
paultagno wait, your *03:21
ZachK_that's it03:21
nhandlerpaultag: I can find it if you want?03:23
paultagnhandler, it's ok :)03:24
paultagnhandler, it was one of my Shakespearian insults. God I love early modern english03:24
ZachK_paultag: agreed03:25
* ZachK_ out for a bit03:26
cmghey guys when i use the ./install.bin command to install my .bin file i get an error03:31
Appl6cmg: Pastebin the error.03:32
nUboon2AgeQ: I'm confused.  I went to download a 64-bit Ubuntu version and I see it says 'amd' on it.  Does that mean it won't work on intel 64bit machines?03:33
cmghttp://pastebin.com/bwyaNeF603:34
iceflatlineyes03:34
Chesamotno03:35
Chesamono03:35
Chesamoamd64 is compatible with x86_6403:35
Appl6nUboon2Age: It will work on Intel 64 bit machines.  See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amd64#Differences_between_AMD64_and_Intel_64  Basically, it says the differences are minor, and everyone programs to the common denominator of AMD and Intel 64.03:35
nUboon2AgeChesamo: so its the same .iso whether you use amd or intel?03:35
iceflatlinelegacy... AMD was first out with a 64b cpu03:35
ChesamonUboon2Age: Yes03:35
nUboon2AgeSo should I expect it to work on a quad core intel machine?03:36
Chesamoyes03:36
Appl6cmg: Wow, it can't find libc.  Did you happen to uninstall a bunch of packages recently?03:37
nUboon2AgeThank you for the wikipedia reference.  I'll check it out...03:37
cmgi actually just had a problem with my repositories but someone here helped me re installd the defaults03:37
ZeRoDeAtH50435can anyone help me with vbox03:39
Appl6cmg: Does "aptitude show libc6" say "State: installed"?03:40
Appl6cmg: And are you using 32 or 64 bit Ubuntu?03:41
cmg32bit03:41
cmgand yes it says installed03:41
Appl6cmg: Pastebin the results of "dpkg -L libc6" please.03:42
ChesamoZeRoDeAth50435: What's wrong?03:43
ZeRoDeAtH50435I cannot connect to the Internet in vbox03:44
cmghttp://pastebin.com/CTZBuDUS03:45
nUboon2AgeQ: does Ubuntu 64bit work fairly well or is it known to be glitchy?  My girlfriend is thinking of a machine w/ quadcore 64 bit capability.  Is it a better bet to run it w/ 32 bit or 64 bit?03:46
ChesamonUboon2Age: I run 64-bit stable, no problems03:46
ChesamoZeRoDeAtH50435: That's not very descriptive. What guest OS?03:47
ZeRoDeAtH50435WinXP03:47
ChesamoZeRoDeAtH50435: Have you installed Guest Additions?03:47
ZeRoDeAtH50435yes03:47
ZeRoDeAtH50435it maybe the version that I am using03:48
ChesamoZeRoDeAtH50435: What version of VBox are you running?03:48
ZeRoDeAtH50435OSE03:48
Appl6cmg: Are you sure the application you're trying to install is 32 bit compatible?  Besides that, you can go mucking around with strace, but it sounds like an installer bug.03:49
ZeRoDeAtH50435I am using a mod bootleg version of XP03:49
cmgyeah i've used it on my windows 32bit before03:49
cmgwhat is strace?03:49
ChesamoZeRoDeAtH50435: That's probably part of the problem. Piracy is bad, kids!03:50
nUboon2AgeChesamo: thanks!03:50
ChesamonUboon2Age: No probl03:50
Chesamoem03:50
Appl6cmg: What is the application?  Maybe I can take a look.  strace is a program that looks at all the system calls a program makes.  It might tell you where the program is trying to find libc.so.6, which may tell you where the problem is.03:50
ZeRoDeAtH50435yeah I hear ya03:51
cmgwell it for my little sister she uses it to connect to a math tutor and she wants it on this laptop which is running ubuntu, ill get you link in a minute03:51
ZeRoDeAtH50435I have used bootlegged version before and not had a problem but this version never used before03:52
ChesamoZeRoDeAtH50435: What kind of network adapter is being shown to the VM>03:52
Chesamo?*03:52
ZeRoDeAtH50435NAT03:52
ZeRoDeAtH50435default settings03:52
ChesamoZeRoDeAtH50435: No, what hardware is being emulated03:53
Appl6cmg: Maybe you could dual-boot Windows and Ubuntu.  Windows for when you actually want to get things done ;-).03:55
cmghahah well i put linux on so it was a little noob proof as far as spyware and virus go03:55
cmgbecause she just got a virus and i reformated instead of trying to remove it03:56
Appl6cmg: Right, right.03:57
ZeRoDeAtH50435do not understand what you are asking03:58
ChesamoZeRoDeAtH50435: What is listed under Settings > Network > Advanced > Adater Type?03:59
ZeRoDeAtH50435Attached to: NAT, Advanced: PCnet-FAST III (Am79C97304:01
ChesamoZeRoDeAtH50435: Change that to one of the Intel Pros04:02
ZeRoDeAtH50435Intel PRO/1000 MT Desktop04:03
ZeRoDeAtH50435will that work for wireless04:03
ChesamoWhat?04:05
ChesamoWhat are you talking about? That's the virtual hardware04:05
ZeRoDeAtH50435I connected to the Internet wirelessly04:05
Appl6*grin*04:06
holsteinthat doesnt matter04:06
holsteinjust try the intel one :)04:06
ZeRoDeAtH50435still will not connect said it did not install right04:06
ChesamoZeRoDeAtH50435: Re-install Guest Additions04:07
ZeRoDeAtH50435its running04:07
ZeRoDeAtH50435done04:07
ZeRoDeAtH50435nope still no Internet04:09
holsteinwhat is the error?04:10
ZeRoDeAtH50435there is no error04:11
ZeRoDeAtH50435it is not detecting any wired or wireless network cards installed04:12
holsteinwont be a wireless04:13
holsteinjust the fake wired one04:13
holsteinin a terminal04:13
holsteinyou could type04:13
holsteinlspci04:13
ZeRoDeAtH50435I have used wireless before04:13
holsteinand look for the fake intel card04:14
holsteinZeRoDeAtH50435: in the virtual machine, it should show up as a wired device04:14
holsteinregardless of what the host is on04:14
ZeRoDeAtH50435its not showing up anything04:14
holsteini gotcha04:14
ZeRoDeAtH50435ok04:14
holsteindid you run lspci04:15
holsteinin a terminal?04:15
holsteindont paste it in here04:15
ZeRoDeAtH50435yeah04:15
holsteinjust look and see if you see the net adapter04:15
ZeRoDeAtH50435no fake one shows up04:15
holsteinhmmmm04:15
ZeRoDeAtH50435just what my wireless card is04:15
holsteinthe wireless card in your host ?04:16
Appl6holstein: The guest OS is Windows XP.04:17
holsteinOH04:17
ZeRoDeAtH50435but when I run ifconfig I get one for vbox  and virbr0 but the vbox one is not showing up04:17
Appl6holstein: *grin*04:17
* holstein smacks head04:17
ChesamoHahaha04:17
ChesamoZeRoDeAtH50435: The command is "ipconfig" in Windows04:17
Appl6holstein: Sorry, I just switched back to this channel, otherwise I would have told you sooner.04:17
ZeRoDeAtH50435yeah04:17
stlsaintwhats the issue here?04:18
holsteinAppl6: i should have read the scroll04:18
holsteini just assumed ;)04:18
ZeRoDeAtH50435nothing shows up04:18
holsteinwhat do you need XP for?04:18
ZeRoDeAtH50435what do you mean holstein04:19
holsteinhave you tried WINE for whatever program your tyring to run XP as a guest in Vbox for?04:19
ZeRoDeAtH50435yeah it will not work04:20
holsteinif you have to run windows, Vbox is the way to do it04:20
ChesamoWhat program?04:20
holsteinwith the snapshots04:20
holsteinhandy04:20
ZeRoDeAtH50435Last Chaos04:21
holsteinyou can just name a snapshot 'pre-virus' ;)04:21
ChesamoA game?04:21
ChesamoZeRoDeAtH50435: Have you gotten any decent 3D performance? VBox is NOT what you want for playing games on04:21
Chesamoin*04:21
ZeRoDeAtH50435the ethernet controller that I set needs to connect to the internet to download what it needs04:21
ZeRoDeAtH50435yeah04:22
holsteinZeRoDeAtH50435: just keep trying them04:22
holsteinyou'll have to find one that XP supports04:22
holsteinOR get a driver, and move it into the guest04:22
ZeRoDeAtH50435yeha04:23
ZeRoDeAtH50435yeah04:23
holsteinlook in the 'device manager' or whatever it is04:23
Appl6ZeRoDeAtH50435: Chesamo is right.  Vbox is going to really disappoint you with its performance on graphics heavy video games.04:23
holsteinunless you got some kinda CRAZY machine04:23
holsteinthat game...04:23
holsteinyeah 666604:23
holsteinoops04:23
holstein^^^^04:23
holsteinnot worth messing with04:24
ZeRoDeAtH50435yeah wish I could play it in Linux04:24
holsteinemail them04:24
ZeRoDeAtH50435but they are haters04:24
holsteincall them04:24
ZeRoDeAtH50435have04:24
ZeRoDeAtH50435they said they will NEVER support Linux04:24
holsteindid you say 'never say never' ;)04:25
holsteinif we get steam for linux04:25
holsteinall kinds of game companies will compete i bet04:25
ZeRoDeAtH50435which I do not know why their are more people that use Linux than people thing04:25
ZeRoDeAtH50435think04:25
ZeRoDeAtH50435that is true, its up to the Linux community to change things04:26
Appl6If you could program to "Linux" then sure.  But you actually have to program to a million sound systems and versions of them, and another million versions of graphics libraries.  Either that, or roll your own everything.04:26
ZeRoDeAtH50435one thing that makes windows windows is the fact that all programs use the .exe format04:27
ddecatordistros kind of shoot themselves in the foot by fragmenting key components :/04:27
ZeRoDeAtH50435yeah and I have thought about it04:28
Appl6ddecator: Absolutely.  But a lot of people use Linux because they can swap in whatever they like best.04:28
ddecatorAppl6: right, so it's two-edged. i do wish they would pick up the initiative to standardize at least some aspects04:28
ZeRoDeAtH50435yeah and you can change it to fit up and the work you use it04:29
ddecatori know they thought about going with all rpm, but some people wanted deb and the whole thing died off04:29
Appl6ddecator: That's part of the problem.  In order to allow for better APIs to evolve, you can't standardize around a single API.  Implementations aren't the only things evolving and being improved; APIs are, too.04:29
ZeRoDeAtH50435I can understand why people want deb because they are very easy to install04:30
ddecatorand deb is easy to package for (haven't worked with rpm)04:30
ZeRoDeAtH50435I have once or twice tar files are the hardest for me to work with04:31
Appl6That's a small fish compared to graphics libraries.  And Conary is pretty excellent.04:31
ChesamoZeRoDeAtH50435: Tar files are just binaries or source04:31
ChesamoZeRoDeAtH50435: Not hard to use at all04:31
ZeRoDeAtH50435yeah04:32
ChesamoZeRoDeAtH50435: Just like zips only better04:32
ZeRoDeAtH50435yeah I have heard that04:32
Appl6Better?04:32
ChesamoZeRoDeAtH50435: Yeah, tarballs actually compress :P04:33
Appl6Other way around.  zip compresses, tar does not.04:33
ZeRoDeAtH50435the only thing that gets me is you have to go throw 3 or 4 step but I have used them before only cause I had a step step to go by04:33
ChesamoZeRoDeAtH50435: the gzip algorithm does.04:33
ChesamoAppl6"04:33
Appl6gzip is not part of tar.  I'm not doubting that you can call a compression algorithm on a tarball, but it's odd to say that tar is superior to zip because it is possible to compress the resulting archive.04:34
Appl6Whereas zip compresses it for you already.04:34
ChesamoAppl6: tarballs almost always have the .tar.gz extension. Tar for consistency and gz for compression.04:35
ddecatorZeRoDeAtH50435: tar.gz directories tend to be the source that anybody can get and see, they can be downloaded and you can run from them, but they aren't really meant for installing a program04:35
ZeRoDeAtH50435you the more I think about it a lot of programs would do a lot better than they are if all programs would start on Linux first04:35
ZeRoDeAtH50435yeah I used one to run a game04:36
ZeRoDeAtH50435I used it to run doom 3 Linux04:37
ZeRoDeAtH50435wine and programs like wine are emulators right04:40
ddecatorWine Is Not an Emulator ;)04:40
ChesamoZeRoDeAtH50435: No04:40
ChesamoZeRoDeAtH50435: It's a compatibility layer04:41
Chesamoddecator +104:41
ChesamoZeRoDeAtH50435: They take Windows system calls and convert them into WINE calls04:41
ChesamoZeRoDeAtH50435: Because WINE has its own version of the Windows libs04:41
ZeRoDeAtH50435why did very one stop talking04:42
ddecatorhm?04:42
ZeRoDeAtH50435ok their has to be a better way to bridge the gap in using .exe files04:43
ZeRoDeAtH50435that works not matter what04:43
holsteinyeah04:43
holsteinstop using them ;)04:43
ZeRoDeAtH50435if only04:43
ZeRoDeAtH50435all the good MMOs and games use exe format04:44
holsteini think microsoft should start writing me some .deb s04:44
ZeRoDeAtH50435thats the big thing for me04:44
ZeRoDeAtH50435haha04:44
ZeRoDeAtH50435hell would have to freeze first04:44
ChesamoI wouldn't call it a "format" per se04:45
holsteinnah04:45
ddecatoryah, gaming is huge, hopefully steam will help. that, and netflix streaming, which is microsoft's fault in some way (they won't give moonlight the DRM license i guess)04:45
holsteinjust money04:45
ChesamoIt's just that the programs are compiled for Windows04:45
holsteinthats true Chesamo04:45
ZeRoDeAtH50435thats it04:45
holsteinis not a fair comparison04:45
ZeRoDeAtH50435if it wasnt for that then MS would not be what it is now04:46
ZeRoDeAtH50435thats right its not04:46
ddecatorwell, they have DirectX04:46
holsteinnah04:46
ChesamoYeah, DX is pretty big04:46
holsteinthe could have written whatever04:46
holsteinits all buisness on some level04:47
ChesamoWell04:47
ChesamoDirectX has software modes04:47
ChesamoOpenGL doesn't04:47
ZeRoDeAtH50435yeah and money04:47
ddecatorand microsoft promotes DirectX to game devs04:47
Appl6They have incredible platform stability and a huge user base.  OS X has the second.  Linux has neither.  Bad for business.04:48
ZeRoDeAtH50435when I look at Linux I see greatness04:49
Appl6You should check out The Old New Thing for some completely insane stories about how the developers at Microsoft slaved over trying to maintain backward compatibility with existing games.04:49
ChesamoAh yeah04:49
ChesamoCompatibility04:49
Chesamothat thing that Apple decided to never do04:49
holsteinlol04:50
ddecatorha04:50
Appl6Yeah, that's going to hurt them.04:50
holsteinyou think?04:50
ZeRoDeAtH50435yep04:50
holsteinthe apple user is a strange bird04:50
Appl6I don't know if it'll hurt them enough to be noticeable given the devotion of the average Apple fanboi.04:50
holsteini think the typical apple user really thinks the new thing is necessary04:50
holsteintough crowd to read04:51
ChesamoI have some Apple hardware04:51
holsteinme too04:51
ChesamoThough I've never spent more than $25 on an Apple product ;-)04:51
holsteinbut we dont have the iphone 3 or whatever04:51
Chesamo...despite owning a Mac Mini04:51
holsteinChesamo: score on the mini :)04:52
holsteinyou run linux on it?04:52
Chesamoholstein: Raffle :P04:52
Chesamoholstein: Can't. Last two times I tries EFI went BLOOIE04:52
holsteinive had decent luck with the PPC machines04:52
Appl6But software companies don't want to write software that's going to break all the time whenever Apple feels like it.  And I can't see that many middle or lower income people being able to justify the extra cost of a Mac.04:52
holsteinbut i got a macbook04:52
holsteinand it does not like ubuntu04:52
holsteintoo bad04:52
ChesamoOh, I had a G3 that ran Ubuntu flawlwssly04:52
Chesamoflawlessly*04:53
ZeRoDeAtH50435never had a MAC04:54
holsteini got that macbook free04:55
holsteinneeded some tinkering to get it running04:55
holsteini bought snow leopard for it04:55
holsteini gotta say, 30 bucks.. i was surprised04:56
ChesamoHolstein: Yeah, well... You can't run it on non-Apple hardware :P04:56
Chesamoholstein: I think he cost of the hardware balances it out04:56
holsteini think windows is still hovering around a hundred bucks04:56
ddecatorthe basic versions, haha04:56
holsteinChesamo: yeah, i just figured they'd get me too04:56
ZeRoDeAtH50435its the OS X Linux04:56
ChesamoZeRoDeAtH50435: What?04:57
ZeRoDeAtH50435kind of like LInux in its design04:57
ChesamoZeRoDeAtH50435: well it's got a lot of Linux components. Xorg, for example.04:59
ChesamoZeRoDeAtH50435: It's based on BSD04:59
ChesamoZeRoDeAtH50435: I say "based" in the loosest interpretation possible04:59
ddecatorlinux and OS X are cousins05:00
ddecatorboth part of the Unix family05:00
ZeRoDeAtH50435I just check the forum for this MMO and their are a lot of people asking for it05:01
ZeRoDeAtH50435yeah thats what I thought05:01
holsteinanybody using a VIA chip?05:03
ddecatorcan't say i am05:04
holsteinim having a hell of a time getting smooth video playback05:04
ZeRoDeAtH50435what are you using05:05
holsteinits an old HP mininote05:06
holsteinone of the first ones with the via chips05:06
holsteinPITA05:06
ZeRoDeAtH50435ok05:07
ZeRoDeAtH50435Ubuntu a UNIX like system05:09
ChesamoZeRoDeAtH50435: unix-like, yes05:09
ZeRoDeAtH50435thats what I thought05:09
Vantraxubuntu is posix compliant in the most limited sense, and has many programs from Unix that were ported over05:14
VantraxUnix like i would tend to reserve for something like BSD05:15
ddecatorhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Unix_history-simple.en.svg05:17
ddecatorright, sort of related by not exactly05:17
ZeRoDeAtH50435what is the command to list what is in my home folder05:35
Appl6ZeRoDeAtH50435: ls ~05:35
ZeRoDeAtH50435thanks05:37
ZeRoDeAtH50435I am trying to run this and it is not working05:40
Appl6ZeRoDeAtH50435: That gives us almost no information.05:43
ChesamoZeRoDeAtH50435: What are you trying to do?05:44
ZeRoDeAtH50435I was trying to run the last chaos install from the terminal but it was not working05:45
ZeRoDeAtH50435wine LcInstallUSA_******.exe05:45
ZeRoDeAtH50435was the command05:45
ChesamoZeRoDeAtH50435: Why so many asterisks05:46
ChesamoZeRoDeAtH50435: Try wine start <exe>05:46
ZeRoDeAtH50435yeah that what I am doing now05:46
ddecatorare you trying to install it or did you install it and you want to run it?05:52
ZeRoDeAtH50435its updating06:01
Appl6ZeRoDeAtH50435: Looks like WC 3 and LC.  It's unlikely that LC or VCK will work, since they rely so heavily on messing with WC 3's process memory (and that is not a portable thing to do).06:01
Appl6ZeRoDeAtH50435: Looks like WC 3 and LC.  It's unlikely that LC or VCK will work, since they rely so heavily on messing with WC 3's process memory (and that is not a portable thing to do).06:01
ddecatori've got a minor thing that has been driving me nuts. i autohide my top panel, and i have the autohide size set to 0, but there is still shows 1 pixel all the way accross the screen. anyone know what might be causing it to not fully autohide even though i set the size to 0?06:26
ddecatorsorry for the bad grammar, getting tired haha06:26
ddecatorlucid btw06:26
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kermiacddecator: Gnome-panel is coded so that it unhides when you move the mouse cursor over the panel, so it needs at least that 1-pixel wide area so you can unhide it.06:45
kermiacddecator: you can try making that 1px transparent - http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3213707&postcount=1506:46
ddecatorkermiac: hey mate. i didn't think it was like that in karmic, i thought it just sensed when the cursor was on or near the edge, but maybe i just don't remember right06:46
kermiachey dray :) IIRC it's always been like that, but i don't remember trying it in Karmic06:48
* kermiac shrugs06:48
ddecatormaybe it's just more obvious now because i'm using ambiance and the vlc icon has a white box, so the little white part sticks out when it's hidden06:48
kermiacyeah, that could be it - it def is more obvious with a darker backgound :(06:49
kermiacw00t... knock off time... time to shutdown. Catch you later if you're still online dray :)06:50
ddecatorsounds good, cya mitch06:50
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CSiDgood morning everyone09:12
CSiDhow are we all today?09:13
CSiDhey , I am thinking of programming a back-up tool in python, that wan be used to restore from back-ups using a live disc in the case of disaster09:24
CSiDgood idea?09:24
CSiDbut I have one question before starting it09:28
CSiDare /proc /dev e.t.c generated at boot time?09:28
CSiDI'll be back later09:30
that_guy_hi, is there any intel mobile graphics accelerator for ubuntu?11:02
that_guy_hello??11:06
talsemgeestthat_guy_: Yeah, I have an intel chipset in my laptop and it works fine with ubuntu11:19
CSiDhello everybody11:23
that_guy_The chipset is working fine but when I was running Windows, I downloaded a accelerator for it so it would run faster... is there one compatible with Ubuntu?11:29
CSiDwhat chipset?11:29
that_guy_intel mobile11:33
CSiDsame as I have... in all honesty I dont think there is an accelerator ... but is it really needed in ubuntu?11:34
that_guy_just for games and stuff11:34
CSiDwhat games on Linux?11:35
that_guy_flight gear11:35
that_guy_it's a bit tacky11:35
CSiDLinux isnt usually good for gaming11:35
CSiDLinux is mostly for security and work , but thats just my opinion11:36
that_guy_I got it cos win7 crashed on my computer,,, and I don't have the cd11:36
CSiDwhat crash problems were you having on windows?11:38
that_guy_well. the screen looked as if it was cracked but it was fine after i restarted the computer11:40
that_guy_also it froze after 5 minutes of boot11:40
CSiDI used to get that, its the graphics driver, you needed ot download a newer one11:41
that_guy_also how do i find out the specific graphics driver name?11:43
CSiDright what graphics card is it?11:44
CSiDcya's all later11:47
that_guy_its a intel mobile but i dont know the specific information to get the driver update11:48
duanedesignthat_guy_: what do you get when you run this command in a Terminal:  lspci | grep Network11:55
duanedesignoops wrong command11:55
duanedesignthat_guy_: what do you get when you run this command in a Terminal:  lspci | grep VGA11:55
that_guy_ahh... that got it11:56
that_guy_thatnks11:56
that_guy_thanks11:56
duanedesignSystem > Administration > Hardware Drivers might suggest a driver11:58
sogeking99can anyone help me with this please? http://pastebin.com/0CRDK37L14:44
sogeking99can anyone help me with this please? http://pastebin.com/0CRDK37L please?14:55
sogeking99hey chesamo14:57
Chesamohello sogeking9914:58
sogeking99can you see my messages from just before you joined?14:58
Silver_Fox_This would be the same problem as yesterday sogeking99  ?14:58
Silver_Fox_Have you tried re-installing the driver?14:59
sogeking99yeah14:59
Chesamosogeking99: No, the irclogs.ubuntu.com logs lag behind14:59
sogeking99basically, everything is messed up for me lol. http://pastebin.com/0CRDK37L that link has most of my issues listed. hope there is something i can do15:00
Chesamosogeking99: Have you tried removing the 10-5 drivers and installing what's in the repos?15:01
sogeking99i uninstalled then tried using jocky to install them again but jocky wont install them15:02
Chesamosogeking99: Don't use Jockey. Not a very good program.15:02
sogeking99yeah, so is it on the software centre?15:03
sogeking99the drivers i mean15:03
Chesamosoge99: Nah, I don't use the software center :P15:03
sogeking99oh the synaptic then?15:04
Chesamosogeking99: sudo aptitude install fglrx15:05
sogeking99so run this after uninstalling?15:06
Chesamosogeking99: yes15:08
sogeking99and do i need to restart after ununstalling the driver? because i have a feeling i will run into the blank screen issue again if i do15:08
Chesamosogeking99: No, you don't. You're not doing anything that'll require a graphics driver.15:10
sogeking99ok15:10
sogeking99i got this error? E: fglrx: subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 215:11
Chesamoahhh15:15
Chesamosogeking99: cd /var/lib/dpkg/info15:15
Chesamosogeking99: ls fglrx.*15:15
Chesamosogeking99: then gksudo gedit <each of the files listed by ls>15:16
Chesamosogeking99: Change the first line ( #/bin/sh -e ) to #/bin/sh15:17
Chesamosogeking99: Then perform the uninstallation again, using the purge command (sudo apt-get purge fglrx)15:17
rcedenoi need help. since installed ubuntu, i lost all sound. Toshiba satellite a101-s4001.15:20
sogeking99the last 2 files listed are #! /bin/sh for first line the other 2 are quite differnt in content15:21
Chesamorcedeno: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45101115:21
rcedenotks chesamo i would check it15:21
Chesamosogeking99: Are they not shell scripts? (do they not start with #/bin/*)?15:22
Chesamo#!/bin/*15:22
sogeking99#!/bin/sh15:23
sogeking99thats what two of them say anyway15:24
sogeking99this is whats list in ls neil@neil-desktop:/var/lib/dpkg/info$ ls fglrx.*15:27
sogeking99fglrx.conffiles  fglrx.md5sums   fglrx.postrm   fglrx.prerm15:27
sogeking99fglrx.list       fglrx.postinst  fglrx.preinst  fglrx.shlibs15:27
sogeking99all files with .pre and .post have #! /bin/sh as the first line15:30
Chesamosogeking99: Very odd. Have you tried running sudo dpkg -r fglrx ?15:33
sogeking99not yet, i will now15:33
sogeking99http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/447232/15:34
sogeking99what happened to make my system go so wrong...15:35
Chesamosogeking99: try sudo apt-get purge xorg-driver-fglrx15:38
sogeking99http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/447235/15:41
ChesamoIt's very weird, I really don't know15:42
sogeking99think i need to reformat my '/' partition? '/home' should be fine right?15:42
Chesamosogeking99: If you reformat /, you'll remove your entire system. If you format /home, you'll remove all of your user data and your Home folder.15:47
sogeking99so how do i make it like a freshly installed 10.4?15:48
Chesamosogeking99: You want to reinstall?15:52
sogeking99i feel like thats all i can do. i dont know what happened but it is seriously messed up15:52
Chesamosogeking99: I always hate to resort to reinstalls, because it feels like admitting defeat, but I'm really not sure what else you can do.15:53
sogeking99yeah thanks for all the help anyway :)15:53
sogeking99i g2g anyway cya15:57
Amaterasu80Um ^^ Hi there, I'm reletively new to Ubuntu and i've been trying to get my tablet working with it, now. . .so far I have full tablet support when I remove the "~/usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d/05-evdev.conf" file, but while it's there my tablet just hangs in the top left corner. .any ideas?16:32
Amaterasu80*Also if i remove the 05-evdev file my keyboard and mouse don't work :P16:33
ChesamoAmaterasu80: What kind of tablet is it?16:34
Amaterasu80It's a Trust TB-630016:34
ChesamoAmaterasu80: Have you tried this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TabletSetupWizardpen16:35
Amaterasu80I already have WizardPen installed, I should've mentioned that, sorry16:35
ChesamoAh, then I don't know. Tablets aren't my area of expertise.16:36
Amaterasu80xD No worries, I'll just have to do a bit of pro-googling :D16:37
bobo123do I have to delete the package 'indicator-applet' to get rid of the envelope in the system message area?16:45
Chesamobobo123: No, just right-click and select "remove from panel"/16:45
Chesamobobo123: Though I believe doing that will remove your volume control applet as well. This should fix that. http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9200476&postcount=516:48
bobo123Chesamo: when I tried, it removed the volume control too :-(16:48
Chesamobobo123: done! ;-)16:48
bobo123ah16:48
bobo123yes with that I guess a volume control again. I wished they have made them separate from the beginning :-) there isn't other things that I break now I hope?16:51
bobo123*get not guess16:52
Chesamobobo123: Nope, as long as you have the notification area you'll be fine.16:52
bobo123ok16:52
bin1010i have a sort of related question, I was wondering if there was a good automatic build, scheduled build with a dashboard type of thing available thats open source.16:53
Chesamobin1010: What do you mean by scheduled/automatic build? And do you mean OSX Dashboard?16:54
bobo123dashboard.. is that like the nextstep-programstarter-panel thing? like mac have like a16:54
bin1010like cruisecontrol or the atlassian bamboo stuff16:54
Chesamobin1010: Like the OSX Dock?16:54
bin1010Chesamo: no, I found that one ;)16:55
Chesamobin1010: Oh, version control with automatic compilation.16:55
bin1010like for automating software builds on time or event and having a pretty dashboard to see how its all going16:55
Chesamobin1010: Oh, so a frontend to an automatic compilation.16:56
bin1010yes16:56
Chesamobin1010: Have you tried Apache Continuum? http://continuum.apache.org/16:57
bin1010no I havent16:57
bin1010do you like it?16:57
Chesamobin1010: Nope, Google-fu brought it up :P16:58
bobo123automatic compilation would be nice. together with automatic ide and downloading of src for any application I rightclick on and select "Modify..."16:58
bin1010I love and hat google fu16:58
bin1010hate16:58
bin1010sometimes you find exactly what you are looking for and others.....not so much....Thanks16:59
bobo123:-)16:59
bin1010yep17:00
Chesamobin1010: No problem. Good luck! :P17:00
bin1010I think that is where launchpad is heading17:00
Chesamobin1010: I hope not. afaik it's just a project management system.17:01
bin1010things change.... ;)17:01
Chesamobin1010: I hope not :( Launchpad's already complicated enough as it is17:02
bobo123Launchpad as in rockets or spacecrafts take off area, or Launchpad (website) used for bug tracking and software development? ;-)17:03
Chesamobobo123: The former, duhhhh17:04
bobo123space technologi can be complicated :-)17:04
bobo123blae it is already 2010 and we still have no moonbase, and just one space station :-(17:07
goodtime_i need some help17:40
bobo123goodtime_: ok17:40
goodtime_my network is downloading and im up loading at the same time when im idle at boot up17:41
goodtime_and i do a netstat -a and theres like all thus stuff going on17:41
goodtime_i think my isp is messing with me17:42
bobo123ohh.. so there is some program that uses the network without you actively ask it to. I have'nt heard of that in ubuntu...17:42
goodtime_i was also supposed to get like 12mb download speed17:42
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goodtime_i installed debian too and i got so hot that i would just power off17:43
bobo123goodtime_:  some evil Windows malware do that, but in linux? strange...17:43
goodtime_now i got ubuntu 10.04 back running17:44
goodtime_and its the same thing17:44
goodtime_strange indeed17:44
bobo123in linux you should be bale to see what is running by running the ommand  top  in a terminal window17:44
bobo123*able17:44
goodtime_i see my network in my system monitor17:45
goodtime_along with a few other services17:46
goodtime_bobo123: what the command to remove firefox17:47
goodtime_please  :)17:47
bobo123you can remove any program in System-Administration-Synaptic17:47
goodtime_ok17:47
bobo123if you search for firefox there and uncheck it and press the buttonbar-button to do it, then firefox should be removed for you17:49
goodtime_ok17:50
goodtime_its removed ty :)17:50
bobo123About that strange automatic downloading thing you have problem with... it must be possible to see what ip-number it is contacting and block that, right?17:51
goodtime_i hope17:51
bobo123goodtime_: if you had a router (or adslmodem with builtin router) then you could of course block that ipnr in the router instead17:53
goodtime_ok17:54
goodtime_dont have a router yet17:55
goodtime_i wonder what kind of modem i have17:55
goodtime_motorrola sbv5220 cable modem17:57
goodtime_broadband modem18:00
goodtime_http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=+motorrola+sbv5220+cable+modem&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=18:02
mohi2911hiys hobgoblin18:08
mohi2911hiya*18:09
hobgoblino/18:09
mohi2911howdy hobgoblin ?18:09
hobgoblino/18:09
mohi2911O_o18:10
hobgoblin;) evening mohi291118:10
mohi2911hobgoblin, night :P18:10
ZachK_heya hobgoblin18:11
hobgoblinno - it's definetly evening mohi2911 - hi ZachK_18:11
mohi2911hobgoblin, its promisingly night. I can prove it18:11
hobgoblinmy time stamp disproves you ;)18:12
bobo123goodtime_: your cable modem doesn't seem to have a builtin router. http://broadband.motorola.com/consumers/products/SBV5220/downloads/SBV5220_UG.pdf doesn't mention it anyway18:12
bobo123ohh.. a real hobgoblin! may I touch you?18:13
mohi2911hobgoblin, try looking at sun and see the clock running on it xD18:13
hobgoblinbobo123: depends on whether you want your hand bitten off or not ...18:13
hobgoblinmohi2911: sun? I live in england ...18:14
mohi2911I live in LAND :P18:14
* bobo123 touches far away from teeth-area18:14
hobgoblinwhich sounds eerily worse ...18:14
ZeRoDeAtH50435anyone know anything about backtrack 418:16
acerimmer!ot>zero18:16
ZeRoDeAtH50435?18:16
acerimmer!ot|zerodeath5043518:17
ubot2zerodeath50435: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!18:17
ZeRoDeAtH50435oh ok18:17
acerimmerZeRoDeAtH50435: /j #remote-exploit18:18
ZeRoDeAtH50435I am running it in vbox and cannot get the share files to work18:18
acerimmerZeRoDeAtH50435: NMD it's #backtrack-linux.  sorry18:19
acerimmerZeRoDeAtH50435: take it to the pro's: /join #backtrack-linux18:19
ZeRoDeAtH50435says I cannot join I am banned I have never been their before18:19
acerimmerZeRoDeAtH50435: try diff nick18:20
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ChesamoReally easy BASH question that I can't believe I can't remember... what does `$@' indicate?20:39
Silver_Fox_Much better21:18
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Buuntuhow could I run a cron job that requires root privileges?22:24
squaregoldfishBuuntu: You can add the job to /etc/crontab, then run sudo crontab /etc/crontab22:34
geirhasquaregoldfish: no. /etc/crontab has a different syntax22:44
geirhaand it's read independantly from the users' crontabs22:46
Silver_Fox_Start with "crontab -e" under root login22:46
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Silver_Fox_I think22:46
Silver_Fox_Back in a bit22:47
geirhasudo crontab -e22:47
Chesamosud-- that22:47
Silver_Fox_Yep22:47
Silver_Fox_Thought so22:47
Silver_Fox_;)22:47
ChesamoDon't need to root login :P22:47
squaregoldfishPersonal preference - I've never used crontab -e, but kept the literal files and run crontab. /etc/crontab has clearly changed since I last used it...22:49
geirhayou can also edit /etc/crontab. it has an additional field to specify which user to run it as22:50
modelf_hello?23:07
Chesamo!help modelf_23:07
ubot2Factoid 'help modelf_' not found23:07
Chesamo!help |modelf_23:07
ubot2modelf_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)23:07
modelf_!help23:08
ubot2Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)23:08
ChesamoNo no, I mean that was for you, modelf_23:09
ChesamoJust go ahead and ask ;-)23:09
bobo123how do I scan with ubuntu "simple-scan" ? when I try i just says  "Misslyckades med att läsa in" "Kan inte ansluta till bildläsare" (failed to read in, couldnät connect to scanner) but it must have had some connection since it have its name in the settings-dialogbox.23:12
bobo123If I try to start simple-scan from the command line instead it says some more: "[snapscan] Cannot open firmware file /usr/share/sane/snapscan/your-firmwarefile.bin" "[snapscan] Edit the firmware file entry in snapscan.conf". but.... how do I do that and then what shall I write?23:13
bobo123btw, wouldn't it be nice if those error messages that is only written in the terminal window, would be shown in the error-dialogbox when the program is not started from a terminal window but the program-menu (as one normally do) ?23:15
modelf_hey bobo12323:16
modelf_I just started using all this stuff23:17
modelf_but i think you're question would probably get a better answer in the #ubuntu channel23:17
modelf_it seems to be pretty active in there as far as Q and A23:17
bobo123modelf_: ok23:23
ZachK_modelf_: bobo123 we try to answer all we can here but as this is a team not just a help channel we do all manners of things at once...so sometimes we seem to not be there or like we don't care but we're trying!23:36
bobo123seems to be that the scanner doesn't have any firmware in it, in windows that is copied to the scanner during start. good thing I still have windows installed because agfa seems not to support their scanners anymore.23:36
bobo123note to self: never buy anything from agfa23:36
ZachK_lol23:37
bobo123btw, is it possible to have when I search for a file, it show the path to the found file not just the filename?23:39
bobo123to show path shoud've really been default I might say... I guess that would be future feature request....23:40
Appl6bobo123: What did you use to find the file?23:40
modelf_hey zach23:43
modelf_i just got your email23:43
ZachK_modelf_: ah i take it you're Chris?23:44
modelf_is there a shortcut to that thing where you put the person's name in front of the text, or do you guys just type that?23:44
modelf_yeah i'm chris23:44
ZachK_what client are you using to chat with23:44
modelf_LostIRC23:44
ZachK_ok then this should work23:44
ZachK_to put the name in front of the text you23:44
ZachK_type the persons name like for me start typing the "Z" and hit the "Tab" key23:45
modelf_ZachK_: ah23:45
ZachK_got it?23:45
modelf_gottcha23:45
modelf_thanks23:45
ZachK_:D23:45
modelf_terminal trix23:45
ZachK_lol23:45
ZachK_ok so questions....whatcha wanna know23:45
modelf_I'm gunna set up a wiki page23:46
ZachK_ok23:46
ZachK_do you have an account on Launchpad?23:46
modelf_what's Launchpad, you mentioned it in your email23:46
modelf_not yet.23:46
ZachK_https://launchpad.net/23:47
bobo123Appl6: just the Search for files... in the Go menu in the filemanager23:47
bobo123Weehaaa! I can scan! :-D23:47
modelf_haha congrats23:48
Appl6bobo123: You can try using "locate FILENAME" from the terminal.23:49
modelf_oh i guess i did have an account for launchpad.net23:54
ZachK_lol23:54
modelf_it linked through Ubuntuone, which i just registered for23:54
modelf_the day before23:54
ZachK_ok did you sign the CoC23:54
modelf_If that was part of the registration process, I probably did the other day when i registered with one.ubuntu23:55
ZachK_what is your launchpad profile url23:56
modelf_https://launchpad.net/~christopherkmoore123:56
modelf_oh i haven't23:57
modelf_i'll check into that now23:57
ZachK_yes you need to sign the Code of Conduct23:57

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