=== rackIT is now known as rackIT_AFK [03:07] Update manager updated the kernel on my 32 bit lucid machine. now I have no network. ifup won't allow eth0 anymore [03:09] deadnetwork: which kernel, there was an update right after the update [03:14] 2.6.22.32-generic [03:14] sorry 2.6.32.22-generic [03:14] yes, but what version [03:14] .36 was released right after .35 [03:14] how do I check the version other than uname -r [03:15] dpkg -l | grep 2.6.32.22-generic === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler [03:20] looks like .33 [03:21] my update doesn't look very new according to your versions [03:21] deadnetwork: yeah, I think you're 2 versions behind [03:21] is there a simple deb i can download to flash drive to install on the other pc (I can't download with apt-get) [03:23] deadnetwork: I think this is it: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/linux-image-2.6.32-22-generic_2.6.32-22.36_i386.deb [03:33] ok thanks. That brought me back up. [03:33] ya'll take care. === rackIT_AFK is now known as rackIT [05:09] Hello. I'd like to learn how to help with triaging bugs. How do I get started? [05:14] patkc66: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad for basic info, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage/ for how to triage, and this channel if you have any questions :) [05:23] Thanks ddecator. I found the first two and was going through the second one. (The first of those was how I found this channel. Heh.) I'll continue with the reading though. I do most of my working on Ubuntu from a VMWare workstation machine. So I figure it should be fairly easy to set up a VM to test bugs on. [05:24] patkc66: sounds good. and like i said, you're more than welcome to ask any questions here. this channel has its slow times, but if you stick around someone is bound to get back to you :) [05:25] I don't mind lurking to see what others think either. Nice to meet you. [05:26] I always like to learn new things. And I figured the bug-squad might be a good way to learn lots of different parts of Ubuntu that I might not otherwise try. [05:28] it's a great place to learn about the workflow of the ubuntu community and to get to know a lot of people === rackIT is now known as rackIT_AFK [05:53] Good night. Time for bed. === lifeless_ is now known as lifeless [07:08] ddecator: you around? [07:08] drew212: sure am, what's up? [07:09] check out bug 59143 [07:09] Launchpad bug 59143 in gnome-applets (Ubuntu) "Force quit applet doesn't remove modal window when pressing (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 14)" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59143 [07:09] i mean bug 591536 [07:09] Launchpad bug 591536 in ksystemlog (Ubuntu) "No support for small screen resolutions (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/591536 [07:09] damnit, i cant type, still the wrong one... [07:09] epic fail, bug 591436 *** [07:09] Launchpad bug 591436 in firefox (Ubuntu) "3.6.6 not returnning to home tab (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/591436 [07:10] ok, isn't that what the home button is supposed to do? [07:10] ...yes. let me read it again a sec to make sure i'm not overlooking something [07:11] and how would you suggest i politely inform the reporter of this =P [07:11] heh, that's always the fun part. one sec [07:13] i have a response going... [07:14] pft, it's formatted weird because i didn't put any line breaks, but you can try something like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/447029/ [07:15] thats about what i had, but you've worded it more professionally [07:15] im going to add something about marking it invalid [07:16] sounds good, just add a bit saying it sounds invalid for now, but if we've misunderstood something then we can reopen the bug. they may want to file a feature request to have it changed [07:17] yeah [07:17] which i highly doubt that would ever be changed, but sometimes people want the request to at least be there [07:17] yeah [07:31] ddecator: how do i proceed when the bug is upstream? [07:31] i cant triage bugs yet =X [07:31] drew212: what bug are you looking at? [07:32] bug 591040 and its related to https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-1229 [07:32] Launchpad bug 591040 in adobe-flashplugin (Ubuntu) "Video Plugins Don't Work, Program hangs (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/591040 [07:34] although, the related bug is REALLY old =X [07:37] yah, i'm not sure it's the same bug. the behavior is similar, but we don't know enough to say the cause is the same. i would have the user try disabling the Keep Tube extension in case that's doing something funny (or try witha a new profile, but at least disable the one extension) [07:38] lol, i wouldn't know how to do that myself, let alone tell another person =D [07:38] to test with a new profile? [07:39] that, and disable the extension... [07:39] oh, haha, let me find you the new profile canned response (it'll take me a sec, i have it saved on FF 3.7 but that's broken atm) [07:39] alrite [07:41] here is the new profile response (just change the beginning as needed, such as not thanking them for reporting the bug again...i did that a few times before :p) http://paste.ubuntu.com/447039/ [07:42] as for disabling extenstions, Tools > Add-ons > Find the extension > Highlight and click 'Disable' > Restart Firefox [07:43] that doesnt work with 3.6 i tested it... you have to click help, troubleshooting information, under application basics click open containing folder... but thats as far as i got [07:43] creating a new profile results in no extensions being used though. we use that response a lot to make sure the problem is really with firefox and not a setting or extension [07:43] drew212: what doesn't work? [07:43] ddecator: firefox -profilemanager [07:44] drew212: should work. you don't get a pop-up that allows you to create a new profile? [07:44] nope [07:44] bug! [07:44] =D [07:44] the case might matter, are you using '-ProfileManager'? [07:44] yes [07:45] (otherwise 'firefox -P' should work too) [07:45] it just opens firefox [07:46] make sure all instances of firefox are closed first :) [07:46] bah, i cant do that! [07:46] i have valuable tabs open =D [07:46] i multitask =D [07:46] well, i just tested, and it works if firefox is closed :p [07:50] ddecator: it seems like it's a flash issue though, should i not have changed the package? [07:50] drew212: it could be, but there is a chance that extension is doing something, so it doesn't hurt to rule it out :) [07:51] yeah, i modified the comment saying that =P [07:51] sorry for filling your inbox with bugmail =D [07:52] drew212: no worries, you'll get much more from me starting next week, haha [07:52] lol [08:11] ddecator: hmm , who is menoring drew212 ? you or micahg? or sharing him ;p [08:12] need to add him to the table. [08:12] vish: not sure, students haven't been assigned. idk how available micah is since he's doing a lot more work for the mozilla team now, so i can mentor him if micah can't [08:13] ddecator: yeah , with the upcoming FF update he'd be a bit busy.. I'll assign drew212 to you. [08:13] vish: sounds good to me [08:13] drew212: that doesnt mean you cant ask micahg Questions ;) [08:14] drew212: whoever is around , you can ask [08:14] ddecator: have you contacted Austin? [08:15] drew212: i'll just be responsible for being available to answer any questions you have for me and helping to introduce you to everything :) [08:15] vish: sent him an email tod...well, i guess yesterday now. i'll give him a few days and let you guys know, but i'm guessing he won't get back to me [08:15] ddecator: neat. If he doesnt respond. Let us know. thanks [08:16] vish: sure thing! [08:17] drew212: on that note, you can find my info on my lp page, https://edge.launchpad.net/~ddecator , feel free to ping or email me any time. my schedule is going to be weird the rest of this week and part of next since i'm finishing finals and i'll be moving back home this weekend, but then my schedule should be similar to how it is now [09:01] yes mummy,I won't dance in the rain! [10:02] hmm 0.0 === om26er_ is now known as om26er [10:11] vish: http://qdb.us/302272 [10:15] BUGabundo_remote: SAUsage_remote [10:15] ;p [10:24] LOLOLOLOLOLOOLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL [10:47] chrisccoulson: poke, got a minute? [10:47] nigelbabu, i'm counting my spare minutes in negative numbers atm ;) [10:47] but yeah, i can spare a minute [10:48] hehe, I'll PM you. when those negative numbers become positive, you can take a look :) [10:48] thanks [11:22] heyyy, how do i hug bugs?? === raywang is now known as rawang [12:28] Hi! I found this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-games/+bug/397783 and i think it should be set to 'Triaged'. [12:28] Launchpad bug 397783 in gnome-games (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "impossible game generated by Sudoku (affects: 6) (heat: 37)" [Low,New] [12:30] DrKenobi: thanks. done [12:32] vish thank you [12:33] vish, this bug is on the ubuntu bug day list, should i put mu id? [12:33] DrKenobi: sure [12:33] vish ok, thanks [12:33] np. [12:53] Hi! I've just sent this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-games/+bug/433313 to upstream, I think it should be set ti triaged, thanks [12:53] Launchpad bug 433313 in gnome-games (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Aisleriot should use Ctrl+q quit (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] [12:55] DrKenobi: done [12:56] micahg thanks! [13:16] JFo: what would be needed to add on bug 591702? He doesn't have a network connection as the driver fails (and he's in #ubuntu+1 atm) [13:16] Launchpad bug 591702 in linux (Ubuntu) "After upgrade lucid -> maverick eth0 interface is gone (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/591702 [13:17] I'll get him to file a bug with apport-cli [13:20] Hi! I've just found this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-games/+bug/500839 set as duplicate, and it's not a duplicate. How do I change it? [13:20] Launchpad bug 500839 in gnome-games (Ubuntu) "no sounds in games (dup-of: 533040)" [Undecided,Invalid] [13:20] Launchpad bug 533040 in gnome-games (Ubuntu) "Please enable sounds by default (affects: 4) (dups: 1) (heat: 38)" [Wishlist,New] [13:22] DrKenobi: you should see a pencil next to the duplicate [13:24] micahg i saw it, but the only thing i can do is remove the number of the bug, but i couldn't change the satus of the bug [13:24] DrKenobi: first remove the number, then refresh the page [13:25] micahg ok, i did it, thanks [13:42] micahg: hey , seeing that you'd be busy with the upcoming FF update and stuff , i'v assigned drew212 to ddecator . [13:42] vish: k [13:57] hi, there is a bug that i sent upsrteam https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-games/+bug/433313 and is not going to be fixed. Should be set to 'Wont fix'? [13:57] Launchpad bug 433313 in gnome-games (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Aisleriot should use Ctrl+q quit (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Wishlist,Won't fix] [13:58] DrKenobi: did it already :) [13:59] hehe , 2mins diff [13:59] micahg, 'GNOME Games' is set as Won't Fix, but what about 'gnome.gaes (Ubuntu)'? [13:59] DrKenobi: refresh teh page :) [14:00] or look at ubot2 output above :) [14:00] micahg, ok I have to refesh the pages more often haha [14:12] hi again, i think this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-games/+bug/533040 should be set a triaged [14:12] Launchpad bug 533040 in gnome-games (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Please enable sounds by default (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] [14:13] I'd appreciate sounds not being on by default myself... but *shrug* [14:13] eheh [14:13] its all about UX [14:14] DrKenobi: done [14:14] micahg thanks [14:15] wow, a day early and a nice chunk of the hugday bugs are done :) [14:16] * micahg wonders if we ever had a hugday where all the bugs were hugged [14:17] dont you think this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-games/+bug/478558 is a wishlist? [14:17] Launchpad bug 478558 in gnome-games (Ubuntu) "Aunt Mary variation of Klondike not available (affects: 2) (heat: 10)" [Low,Confirmed] [14:20] DrKenobi: no, it's a regression, check the description [14:20] DrKenobi: in fact, it's ubuntu specific apparently [14:21] oh! i need to read more carefully (not native english speaker). micahg, what would you do in this bug? [14:22] DrKenobi: verify that it's the case in lucid/maverick, if so, we can mark triaged [14:23] what bug? i will be glad to test it if i can [14:23] * micahg added the regression-release tag [14:23] gnomefreak: bug 478558 [14:23] Launchpad bug 478558 in gnome-games (Ubuntu) "Aunt Mary variation of Klondike not available (affects: 2) (heat: 15)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/478558 [14:23] micahg: in lucid i can do it, but with maverick? should i download the alpha 1? [14:23] micahg: thanks ill read it and see [14:24] DrKenobi: gnomefreak offered to check it in Maverick, just wait and see, but you can test in Lucid :) [14:24] good morning [14:24] micahg: oh thanks! [14:24] DrKenobi: might not be a bad idea to have maverick alpha 1 on hand for testing in a VM though [14:24] DrKenobi: or you can use testdrive [14:25] * micahg needs to patch testdrive in Lucid for Virtualbox 3.2 [14:25] what is testdrive? [14:25] +1: what is testdrive? [14:26] !info testdrive [14:26] Aunt Mary is not in Lucid [14:26] micahg: testdrive (source: testdrive): run the daily Ubuntu ISO in a virtual machine. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.38-0ubuntu1 (lucid), package size 21 kB, installed size 104 kB [14:27] bcurtiswx DrKenobi ^^ [14:28] micahg: thx [14:29] DrKenobi: micahg im not seeing aunt mary or klondike. show i be looking for a different game or just those two [14:29] micahg: i may just do that at home [14:29] hggdh: sounds like we need a testdrive marketing mail to the bugsquad list :) [14:30] hmm , whaaaaaaat! , bcurtiswx didnt know testdrive :( [14:30] vish: one of the things we discussed at UDS was making our toolkit more well known [14:31] * bcurtiswx is kept out of the loop apparently [14:31] * bcurtiswx thinks he should get canonical funding for the next UDS :p [14:31] hehe , btw the way the new testdrive icon was mine ;p [14:32] * txwikinger2 only stumbled coincidently over testdrive [14:32] txwikinger2: hai , did ScottK mention about the papercuts triage? === txwikinger2 is now known as txwikinger [14:34] vish: Not sure.. I was a little busy the last couple of days [14:35] txwikinger: ah, yeah. I had asked him for some KDE folks to triage a few kde papercuts. He mentioned he would ask you the next time he sees you [14:35] we have tagged the bugs "kde" https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bugs?field.tag=kde [14:35] Ah.. ok.. no problem [14:35] txwikinger: neat thanks. [14:52] micahg: will take care of it [14:52] hggdh: cool, thanks :) [14:52] thanks micahg, good bye! [14:52] hggdh: I hope to patch testdrive in lucid for vbox3.2 soon [14:53] micahg: this would be nice... ;-) [14:53] hggdh: it was already patched for maverick, just needs a packaging change now [14:54] micahg: yes, I saw the merge request. You may need to rebase, though === greg-g is now known as greg-g- === greg-g- is now known as greg-g [15:06] hi everybody! [15:06] pretty please, have a look at this bug, thanks! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/591532 [15:06] Launchpad bug 591532 in linux (Ubuntu) "ata errors { DRDY ERR } { ABRT } in Lucid (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Confirmed] [15:11] Montblanc: please, don't assign bugs to other people or teams without consulting it with them. it's impolite and it won't get anyone to work faster on the ticket anyway. [15:12] Montblanc: also, don't confirm your own bugs [15:14] kklimonda and BlackZ I'll remove the kernel team and turn back to new, sorry about that [15:15] Montblanc: no problem, we are just pointing it so you know how to proceed in the future. as for the bug itself this channel isn't the best place to ask for help. We don't really fix bugs here, just making sure they are as complete as required by other developers. [15:16] kklimonda: well, if the bug is new and hasn't been looked at, this is a good place :) [15:16] kklimonda, it's no problem! thank you anyways, i just hope it gets considered somehow! :) [15:17] micahg: oh? we can direct people here to help them triage their own bugs? /me didn't know :) [15:18] kklimonda: or we can triage them :) [15:18] kklimonda i'm sorry! -.- [15:19] * micahg thinks it should be more public to have people come here with their untouched bugs they care about after X days so that we don't end up with 40k New bugs in the tracker :) [15:25] i'm glad someone pointed me out how to behave in these cases and someone answered my bug anyways, maybe it was not a bad idea coming here! :) [15:26] Montblanc: this is a good place to come if a reasonable period of time goes by w/out a bug being looked at or if an issue is urgent and needs immediate attention [15:26] micahg i didn't know about that until I joined this channel, i'll pay more attention next time, thank you [15:27] * maco agrees with micahg [15:28] its a lot faster to go back and forth on IRC and then summarise than to go back and forth over bugmail [15:28] yes it is [15:33] obviously i know it's common sense not to confirm your own bugs and assigning teams without them knowing, but I'm having this bug since official lucid release date and opening a bug on launchpad was my *last* solution, i'm stuck with karmic with a not-well-known bug and that's frustrating. *sorry* once more and thank you [15:34] Montblanc: nothing to be sorry about, we all learn everyday :) [15:35] vish :) [16:20] vish: are you sure I can't convince you to take a class at UUD? [16:21] nigelb: i'm tried making up all the excuses i can ;) .. it is not something I'm interested at the moment.. and dont really have time to prepare :) .. In short. sorry again :) [16:21] i'v* [16:22] vish: dude, you're giving so flimsy excuses I'm tempted to take the bike and ride out there to kick you [16:22] nigelb: what can i saw, I'm not used to lying ;p [16:22] say* [16:22] Right. Next time be creative. [16:23] Also, if I do pass through CBE, trust me, I will kick you :p [16:23] nigelb: i maybe old , but i still can run fast ;) [16:24] vish: old? OLD? [16:25] nigelb: well , old == not as young as you :) [16:25] vish: hold on, how old are you? [16:25] 29 [16:26] oh, ok [16:26] vish: you look younger in person :P [16:26] hmm , i not sure how to fix that. :s [16:27] ;p [16:28] 29 is old, then whats 24? [16:28] teenage? :P [16:28] * BUGabundo_remote feels old [16:28] but as old as gnomefreak [16:29] hehe , we played this "old" tag recently on another channel! [16:29] we do [16:29] at least I see it a lot [16:29] in several #s [16:29] i thought you were considered reaching old when you have to shave every day :P [16:30] I shave once every 5 days [16:31] i shave once my fiancee starts saying "ouch" when i kiss her.. [16:31] lol [16:31] and it seems Im as old as vish :S [16:31] I though he was older [16:31] bcurtiswx: thats a good measure [16:31] BUGabundo_remote: I thought he was younger, clearly, I was wrong [16:31] bcurtiswx try to cut it a few hours before [16:31] she will aperciate [16:31] and who knows what you can get out of that [16:32] BUGabundo_remote: see, i don't know when it reaches "ouch" stage.. its all about feel.. lol [16:32] bcurtiswx: or you can grow it longer and it wont prick ;) [16:32] vish: to many autchs till there [16:33] * bcurtiswx cries "Vish called me a prick" [16:33] ;) [16:34] ;p [16:34] bcurtiswx: haha, lets drag him to the cc :D :D [16:35] nigelb: can we use medieval methods? [16:36] bcurtiswx: haha, yes! [16:36] \o/ woo! [16:36] Just make sure he can triage after all that :D [16:37] eh just don't drag him behind a horse by his hands and it'll be all right [16:38] haha [16:40] * vish waves his cane o/ , damn kids , get off my lawn ;p [16:41] :-O [16:44] bcurtiswx: how free are you in leading an activity for bug squad? [16:44] Do remember the apport hook writing I talked at last bug squad meeting? [16:45] nigelb: yes, i remember that. [16:45] bcurtiswx: can you lead the activity? I'll help of course [16:45] who speak spanish,? [16:46] I can give you a list of packages in descending order of number of bugs filed and we need to sort out which has and which doesn't have hook. I'm trying to do that right now [16:46] !es [16:46] En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [16:46] marti1125: ^ [16:46] !es marti1125 [16:46] Factoid 'es marti1125' not found [16:46] hm figured that would work [16:47] bcurtiswx: | [16:47] disculpa, esque algunas cosas no entiendo sobre triage, [16:47] bcurtiswx: you need to use a | or a > inbetween [16:47] * bcurtiswx slams head on desk [16:47] !es | marti1125 [16:47] marti1125: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [16:47] bcurtiswx: the head slamming won't help the bot much [16:48] marti1125: por favor em ingles. aqui no lo intendi espanhol [16:48] nigelb: yes, I can help. I plan on watching some online courses with python that may help me with that as well [16:48] ahah Pici [16:48] ok [16:48] ! smile | Pici [16:48] Factoid 'smile' not found [16:48] booo [16:48] Pici: error with user not computer [16:48] :( [16:52] bcurtiswx: awesome! Thanks [16:52] I'll mail you soon enough [16:52] nigelb: OK [16:53] now, to hunt down that mail === yofel_ is now known as yofel [17:48] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-defaults/+bug/591819 I think I broke it? At least I'm not imagining things, I can get it to do it consistently. [17:48] Launchpad bug 591819 in gcc-defaults (Ubuntu) "compiled program segfault when -O0 is used to compile (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] === deryck is now known as deryck[lunch] === bulldog is now known as bulldog98 [18:24] shishire: try to reduce your source to a smaller subset that fails the same. You can also find out where if fails by running GDB against it [18:24] knowing *where* it fails will go a long way to find the cause... [18:25] hggdh, yeah, I'm working on that now. I'll include updates as I get it more specific. I put the whole source up there just to make sure I'm not crazy or something. === odyi_ is now known as odyi === odyi is now known as ody === ody is now known as odyi === deryck[lunch] is now known as deryck === asac_ is now known as asac [19:54] qense: hi.. you students list is pretty large. are they the old students inclusive? or just the new ones? from the wiki info seems the old ones from more than 6months ago [19:54] your* [19:56] vish: I just removed them because of inactivity. [19:56] vish: Just when you asked! [19:56] heh :D [19:56] People do what you want them to do before you even ask them! [19:57] QA Meeting at #ubuntu-quality in ~3 minutes [19:58] pretty awesome http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2010-deus-ex/100909 ! [19:58] oops! wrong tab! [20:00] But yes, it was pretty neat ;) [20:02] yeah, meant it for -artwork :) , the graphics are amazing :) [23:48] micahg: you around? [23:53] ddecator: are you around?