[00:06] jono: you asked me something? (sorry my ISP has been having outages multiple times a day so I didn't get it) [00:07] 18.55.47 < jono> Pendulum, how are you getting on merging in the Art Of Community content? [00:08] and he left... [00:08] He said he had to run to give a talk.. [00:11] yeah, I see that on twitter [00:11] oh well, I'll answer him tomorrow [01:24] doctormo: you interested in writing something about application developing? ;-) [01:36] akgraner: ping? [01:37] cjohnston, pong [01:37] got time for a quick call? [01:49] one I get the UW election info out [01:49] can you give me about 30 mins? [01:49] sure [02:02] cjohnston, thanks [02:29] Test === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler [05:28] wb jono :) [05:28] hey jturek [05:28] how did it go at CMU? [05:32] jturek, really well :-) [07:56] good morning [07:56] morning dholbach [07:59] hey ddecator [08:01] good morning everyone [08:01] morning dpm [08:03] hey ddecator [08:04] moin dholbach [08:37] aloha [08:40] i czajkowski [08:43] dholbach: no I czajkowski U dholbach [08:43] * czajkowski gives dholbach a bucket of coffee to wake up and get through the day [08:44] czajkowski: [08:44] _ _ ___ _ [08:44] | | | | |_ _| | | [08:44] | |_| | | | | | [08:44] | _ | | | |_| [08:44] |_| |_| |___| (_) [08:44] [08:45] *grin* :) [10:19] \o/ http://ubuntuinbusiness.eventbrite.com/ [10:28] \o/ [13:37] dpm: ping [13:39] hey cjohnston [13:39] How goes? I'm looking for some help with something, and I think your the right guy.. [13:39] hehe [13:40] I'm working on redoing http://ubuntu.com/community ... And need someone to write something for me about getting involved with the translators team... [13:40] fine here, and you? I'll be glad if I can help :) [13:40] Doing well. [13:41] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityContributePages#Translators <-- is the information that I'm looking for. [13:42] If you scroll up on that wiki page to the Developers section, you can see one that is already done. [13:42] yep [13:42] I can take care of the translators section if you want [13:42] That would be wonderful! [13:43] cool, thanks for letting me know [13:44] Thank you! === greg-g is now known as greg-g- === greg-g- is now known as greg-g [15:08] can somebody please go and fetch me some ice cream thanks [15:09] dholbach: what flavour? moose tracks? (i recommend moose tracks) [15:09] mmmm\ [15:09] * maco used to work at an ice cream store. has sampled muchly flavours [15:10] maybe I'd go with something more traditional? :) [15:11] Neopolitan ftw [15:12] I think I'll go out and get some icecream before our team call starts [15:12] see you in a bit [15:12] I keep a big tub of vanilla around [15:12] just for emergencies [15:12] http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Canonical-to-hold-Ubuntu-in-Business-event-1018567.html \o/ \o/ \o/ [15:13] sounds like fun. will you be going popey? [15:13] :) [15:14] * popey checks his diary for hair washing events [15:18] heh [15:22] ben and jerries cookie dough... NOM! (or strawberry cheesecake..) [15:29] @#%$^#$;2Q&^&$*$%^&#$%^# [15:29] dholbach: I DONEd like 4 things yesterday and the graph isn't getting any better. :( [15:37] jcastro: weird [15:38] jcastro: I didn't get any error messages - I usually do [15:38] jcastro: maybe pitti knows [15:38] I think the graph works fine [15:38] I think we're just swamped right now. :-/ [15:39] jcastro: which blueprint was that? [15:40] community-m-advocate-daily-builds [15:40] community-m-launchpad-upstream-improvements-patches [15:40] community-m-upstream-contacts [15:40] community-m-process-improvements [15:40] one in each of those [15:41] weird, I'm subscribed to community-m-advocate-daily-builds - I should've gotten an email [15:41] I think I didn't [15:41] I added a list at the bottom of the work items [15:41] but there was whitespace inbetween [15:41] that wouldn't break anything would it? [15:42] jcastro: move the list before the work items [15:42] bla bla bla [15:42] ... [15:42] ok [15:42] Work items: [15:42] [...] ... : DONE [15:42] I think I saw somebody complain about that [15:42] but maybe I misremember [15:44] call in 15? [15:46] hola jono [15:47] hi dholbach [15:49] holas [15:55] hey highvoltage [15:55] how are you getting on merging in the art of community into BuildingCommunity ? [15:56] dholbach, jcastro, dpm 4mins? [15:57] jono: yep [15:58] dholbach, no bobbo? [15:59] oh he is in reviews [15:59] jono: he's kicking arse over in #ubuntu-reviews [15:59] :) [15:59] I am having mic problems [15:59] bear with me, I can hear you guys [15:59] lets do conf call [15:59] jono: going to really get into it this Friday [15:59] I want to bring bobbo in [16:00] highvoltage, cool :) [16:00] Pendulum, how are you getting on with it? [16:01] dholbach, jcastro, dpm dialing in now [16:02] (when my phone has finished booting) [16:02] :) [16:02] jono: working on it and like highvoltage should be really getting into it Friday-ish [16:03] (I've been working off the PDF, but would rather be working off a hardcopy and it's due here fridayish) [16:04] Pendulum, cool [16:04] Pendulum, hard copy? but then you cant cut and paste [16:05] dpm, call time! :) [16:05] jono: can c&p from PDF, but use hardcopy to figure out with pencil what I really want [16:05] jono, \o/ I'm both in mumble and skype since a few mins [16:06] dpm: conf call [16:06] dpm, conf call [16:06] oh, sorry!, just a sec! [16:06] Pendulum, ahhhh [16:06] jono: btw, did you know that Barnes & Noble stores can't order it for in-store pickup, they have to get it shipped directly to you? (and you need to prepay) [16:07] Pendulum, ahhh that sucks [16:08] yeah, I was trying to do the publishing trick of "order for instore pickup as it means they're more likely to get a copy for their shelves and/or stock the author in the future", but it didn't work :-/ [16:09] Pendulum: when working with pdfs I often find it easier to read it on a secondary display or computer while working on the other [16:10] highvoltage: yeah, I just don't easily have that sort of set-up, unfortunately. I will have more chance for it after my parents leave on holiday tomorrow and I can borrow my father's monitor, but not right now [16:11] (otoh, moving back in with my parents means I have a chance of doing it at all since there was no way I could have done it in my flat!) [16:12] I also happen to like having hardcopies of books [16:16] popey: Well written response to the whole Ubuntu-LoCos-should-become-LibrePlanet-groups thing. It's exactly what I what I would have written, but now won't. [16:16] thanks [16:20] hello! Evening! [16:24] jono, jcastro, dpm: can't hear you guys [16:24] jono, jcastro, dpm: trying to dial back in [16:25] dholbach, :) [16:26] jono, jcastro, dpm: back [16:26] dholbach, rock and roll :) [16:29] http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ogasawara/csv-stats/bugs-with-patches/linux/ [16:29] :) [16:30] JFo: :) [16:30] JFo: looks like you folks have a focus on patches too :) [16:30] yup [16:30] compared to us, your numbers look small. Only trouble is testing is a pain [16:31] Pendulum: I currently have a space problem, which is probably why I prefer not having more hardcopies where I have to decide on where to store them :) [16:32] highvoltage: have that too, but Art of Community I'm actually going to pass on to someone when I'm done [16:32] Pendulum: I'll take it ;) [16:32] nigelb, another issue is that not all of them are good patches [16:33] they are in most cases hacks from the bug commenters [16:33] JFo: is, kernel is evolving all the time [16:33] s/is/yes [16:33] yep [16:33] JFo: qa meeting is tonight right? [16:33] indeed [16:34] rocking, I was confused whether it was last night. the whole problem with 0000 is you're always confused [16:34] heh [16:39] nigelb: I actually have someone in mind here who teaches "leadership" classes in one of the high schools in town [16:39] Pendulum: was kidding :) [16:40] nigelb: well, if I hadn't, I could have sent it to you :P [16:40] Pendulum: I would have asked you to hold on to it until UDS where we both can make it [16:40] I had 5 copies of Art of Community at one point [16:41] speaking of which, my bookshelf is full. I should make sure I dump some of them home next time I go [16:43] popey: I remember [16:51] jcastro / JFo http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/2010/06/09/s03e09-the-talk-of-the-town/ [16:51] your lovely voices can be heard there [16:51] ah [16:51] popey: Cheif intentionally spelled so? [16:53] popey: looking! [16:54] popey: I'd appreciate it if you folks can give a shout to Operation Cleansweep [16:55] jono: can you check to see if you get mail from debian@ubuntu.com? [16:55] whoops [16:55] jono: those mails go to you right? [16:56] fixed thanks [16:56] nigelb: mail podcast@ubuntu-uk.org with details about it and we will! [16:56] popey: no problem. ooh. I'll mail, you can perhaps interview bobbo too! [16:57] I need to run for an appointment, see you all tomorrow! [16:57] I am glad I am on a podcast with jfo, he's my new buddy! [16:57] jcastro, yep, should do [16:58] jcastro, can you ask IS to have them go to you? [16:58] sure [16:58] jcastro, :) [16:58] jono: do you have a sorting rule for them? I think it's a good idea to have them going to not just one person [17:00] jcastro, nope [17:00] they just come to me [17:00] I will venture a guess that you don't get much [17:00] popey, listening now [17:00] nice opening music [17:00] jcastro: can make it a list? [17:00] it would be nice to have interested folks be able to subsribe [17:01] nigelb: we have an irc channel, a list is currently under consideration (it's on my work items for this cycle) [17:02] jcastro: the channel is the one on oftc righ? [17:02] nigelb: the big gotcha is, do we want an ubuntu-debian list or do we want to encourage participation on a debian derivatives list [17:02] yeah, OFTC, it's the cool place to be! [17:02] * nigelb hangs out there since quite some time [17:02] jcastro: I'd encourage debian derivatives list for its practicality [17:02] have a great rest of your day everyone and see you tomorrow! [17:03] nigelb: indeed, in fact most of the lessons we learn can be applied to any debian derivative [17:03] nigelb: I am giving a talk on this exact thing at debconf! [17:03] yep, exactly where I was headed [17:03] I recently got good deal of help when I wanted to write a script to forward LP bugs to debian [17:04] I just mailed the reportbug list begging for help [17:04] nigelb: if you had a good experience blog about it! [17:04] I will, I'm just waiting to finsh work on the script! [17:04] right, at the end, heh [17:05] As soon as we establish credentials that we're trying to help each other, they're friendly :) [17:06] jcastro, think you will have some time for me today? I just remembered I am off to SELF tomorrow [17:06] need to get packing [17:06] :-/ [17:06] I do! [17:06] cool [17:06] :) [17:06] what are we talking about again? [17:06] forums goodies and the Kernel team [17:06] oh right [17:07] do you have the goodies? [17:07] I have some ideas we should discuss [17:07] ok [17:07] I think this will be a good first chat [17:07] can you pop into our mumble room? [17:07] so I can narrow what we need [17:07] sure can [17:07] let me pause you on uupc :) [17:07] lol [17:07] I was listening to me too! [17:08] lol [17:08] JFo: I had mic problems this morning so bear with me [17:08] k [17:08] yes, can you hear me? [17:08] nope [17:09] :) [17:09] jono: poke? [17:09] jcastro, want me to call you? [17:09] yes please [17:09] 248 677 1006 [17:10] jcastro: you did promise me a blog post ;) [17:11] jcastro, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel [17:14] nigelb: I did! After this call! [17:14] * nigelb hugs jcastro [17:14] Thank you [17:19] jcastro the mythbuster :) [17:20] don't spoil it! I forgot what I talked about! [17:24] heh [17:26] popey: mailed! [17:43] popey, I sound so country [17:46] jcastro, The Ubuntu Myth Buster! [17:46] lol [17:46] I think you need that added to your wiki page [17:46] I agree [17:49] hehe JFo [17:50] hey JFo [17:50] this kernel testing iso thing [17:50] hey jcastro [17:50] yessir? [17:50] that would be a nice tool to give locos! [17:50] is it all automated and stuff or ? [17:50] yep, that is the plan :) [17:50] yep [17:50] we have them building daily right now [17:51] I have a task to test them [17:51] but I am snowed in on other things right now [17:51] and I don't want to put them out until I have tested them and have them documenting [17:51] oh man, I said mythbusting too jcastro [17:51] :) [17:51] woo [17:51] oh, you are answering my question in the audio now [17:52] our intrepid reporter is doing a great job [17:52] he is indeed [17:52] :) [17:54] jcastro: I never knew lucas was your counterpart in debian until now o.O [17:54] kind of-ish [17:54] he's my partner in crime! [17:54] hehe :) [17:54] wonder twin powers unite! [17:55] hey JFo [17:55] yessir? [17:55] do we get TRIM in maverick? [17:55] i think the support is there upstream [17:55] I recall a bug on it [17:55] I wanna see jcastro and Jfo in super hero suits [17:55] want me to dig it up [17:55] hmm [17:56] heh [17:56] nevermind... second thoughts on that one [17:56] heh [17:58] popey, that actually wasn't as bad as I was afraid it would be :) [17:58] given our states at the time [17:58] :-D [17:58] JFo's new word - specifically [17:58] JFo: do you remember what you said? [17:58] I heard everyone was running on alcohol rather than legs :D [17:58] I do now that I have heard it, but not before :) [17:58] :) [17:59] JFo: haha [17:59] i interviewed someone else (nameless) after you, and after more beer, we had to delete the content because we were both so mashed! [17:59] hahahahaha [17:59] popey: haha [17:59] I can only imagine [17:59] can we hear it at next uds? [17:59] not a chance [17:59] we both sound very tired there popey [17:59] we properly deleted it [17:59] that bad? [18:00] we both kept repeating ourselves and rambling on [18:00] popey, you didn't get JFo's comedy routine [18:00] i think it helped JFo and I were standing up [18:00] indeed [18:00] oh we have quite a bit more material, just most of it unfit for airing :) [18:00] we'd have fallen asleep otherwise [18:00] yeah [18:00] I can so believe that [18:01] akgraner, that was actually the whole bit from beginning to end. I'm surprised I was coherent for that long [18:01] popey: I remember you telling having no memory of your momubuntu talk [18:01] JFo, :-) [18:01] popey: oh, do you have that presentation with you? I'd like to see it [18:02] i dont think it was videotaped :( [18:02] * JFo wanders off to pack for SELF [18:02] there is a longer version at Oggcamp [18:02] JFo: I had the wrong address for the council soI had to resend [18:02] popey: I wanted the open office presentation [18:02] jcastro, no sweat [18:02] * nigelb is listening to JFo [18:02] *LOL* defects ;) [18:02] nigelb: http://blip.tv/file/3668964 [18:02] the podcast actually reminded me that we wanted to work out trending topics too with the Forum folks [18:03] audio isnt great, and its quite a bit longer than the "lightning" talk I did at UDS [18:03] also bizarre that I was wearing an aubergine t-shirt and the venue had an aubergine wall behind me! [18:03] nigelb, defects is a carry over from dealing with bugs at HP and Opsware [18:03] it still slips in to my speech from time to time [18:04] JFo: ah! Also, I can confirm that you were the southern accent I heard and attributed to pete wrongly [18:05] heh [18:05] I keep telling Pete he has a Southern Accent :-) he laughed [18:06] JFo: the testing thing you're talking about is what manoj has been working on? [18:06] nigelb, yes [18:06] and cking has just added a BIOS testing bit that we are doing trials on currently [18:06] oh that is cool! [18:06] will help us find bugs in BIOS early on [18:07] JFo: will you have time to take a class at UUD about problems that could be hardware specific? what you're talking about needs to be heard by users! [18:07] nigelb, when is UUD? [18:07] JFo: a weekend in July before developer week [18:08] not sure I will have everything ready by then, depending on the timeframe [18:08] saturday/sunday most probably [18:08] ah, yeah, I doubt it will be cooked by then [18:08] JFo: July 10 [18:08] JFo, do you not read UWN [18:08] it was in there :-P [18:08] akgraner, skim is more what I am forced to do [18:08] :) [18:08] hehe :-) [18:08] JFo: you can talk about how to file bugs that are hardware specific, etc [18:08] stuff that can help you folks! [18:08] I don't force you to read it :-P [18:09] hmmm, nigelb it may be a good idea for me to discuss kernel bugs [18:09] akgraner, you would if you could :-P [18:09] JFo: fwiw, this is really geared toward newbie users [18:09] pleia2, that sounds perfect [18:09] great :) [18:09] JFo, hmmff - I resemble that remark [18:09] :-P [18:09] I need to discuss the actual role of the team and how that differs from upstream [18:10] plus I want to start talking about the new process for filing bugs [18:10] all new user stuff [18:10] think it would be good? [18:10] It would be *awesome* [18:10] yep [18:10] pleia2, akgraner nigelb ^ ? [18:10] cool [18:10] I'll blog your class to the planet! [18:10] sweet [18:10] thanks nigelb [18:10] I think I will do one [18:10] JFo: so, 1 hour on saturday 10th July! [18:10] what do I need to do to get that going? [18:11] sounds good [18:11] what utc times are good for you? [18:11] hmmm [18:11] let me check and see [18:13] pleia2, what time does it end UTC? [18:13] so I don't go past that [18:13] oh, and what blocks are open, I guess [18:13] any time. if we have too many sessions we might spill over to next day ;) [18:13] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDaysTeam/lucid [18:13] ah [18:14] so, I think anything after 16 or 1700 UTC is fine... since it is Saturday :) [18:14] well, we currently have a schedule which is filled up from 12:00 - 23:00, but we're expanding it on both ends and we can shuffle users in that timeframe if required [18:14] I see [18:14] * JFo looks at the wiki page [18:15] nigelb, so the listing at the bottom without times are also sessions? [18:15] yes [18:15] ok [18:15] I'll add a class in there [18:16] * JFo thinks up a title [18:20] JFo: if you could, just go ahead and add it to the bottom of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDaysTeam/CourseSuggestions (we may need to shuffle the schedule on /lucid a bit) [18:20] JFo: "OMG! Kernel panic! " [18:20] <---- lunching! [18:20] pleia2, i sure can :) [18:21] nigelb, seriously? or is that the class title? :) [18:21] JFo: suggested course title :D [18:21] lol [18:21] heh, thought so :) [18:21] i was actually thinking "What is a kernel, and why do i need it?' [18:21] s/'/"/ [18:23] JFo: feel free to replace what I put it ;) [18:23] heh, ok [18:24] * JFo joins user days instructors group [18:26] nigelb, heh, I actually like that title [18:26] very much :) [18:27] haha :) [18:29] thanks pleia2 and nigelb... hope we have a great UUD with or without my little chat. :) [18:30] thanks :) [18:30] JFo: Thanks fo helping with a class :) [18:30] anytime :) [18:31] * JFo goes to finish packing :) [18:33] popey: awesome mail re:libre planet thingy :) [18:35] I didn't think the libreplanet thing was deserving of a response myself [18:35] I saw the planet post and when "what the..." [18:36] I would maybe ask if he would suggest that the perl user groups that are listed on libreplanet should perhaps move to python [18:36] well it's okay now, danny has moved on to the -devel-discuss list [18:36] it was nice that he apologized [18:36] pfft, he didnt address a _single_ question in _any_ reply [18:36] he did exactly what every other FSF person does [18:36] oh, everyone hates FSF ;) [18:37] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2010-June/011591.html [18:37] hate is strong, us practicalists just have trouble with them ;) [18:37] I tire of people telling me my contribution isnt enough, and I should be doing things differently [18:37] popey: yeah, that's what stings me too [18:37] I like the FSF, I like RMS I think it is important that he exists [18:38] I want a working system more than system running on free software [18:38] I recognise the need for extremist groups, but their tactics still leave a bad taste in my mouth [18:39] I don't care what happens, but I'd like my speakers, mic, camera, and other stuff that may/may not depend on free sofware to work. [18:39] and I appreciate doctormo engaging, I know we disagree [18:40] indeed [18:40] heh [18:42] popey: I <3 the line "A laudable goal, and I personally wish LibrePlanet well, but I'd appreciate them not trying to hijack an existing community to do their bidding." [18:42] Danny is clearly a highly motivated person and passionate about ubuntu [18:43] LibrePlanet itself seems to lack substance [18:43] I understand what he's trying to do, but I'm not sure I like it [18:43] so, there is this huge network of stuff that people have done, why dont we use it for $foo [18:44] AlanBell: they list zero uk LUGs [18:44] it is a wiki containing an incomplete directory of lugs and perl groups. I can't find any actual meaning to it all. [18:45] Ah, the FSF are the guys behind GNU/linux thing. [18:45] popey: I found a lug in london and one in birmingham [18:45] sorry, lonix, one [18:45] which isnt actually a LUG! [18:45] ah, good catch! [18:46] its because the lugs refused to call themselves GLUGs [18:46] I can see some merit to having the loco team linked to at the appropriate level of their directory [18:46] popey: eww [18:46] Matt Lee joined the UK LUGMaster mailing list and said he was setting up a free software directory (which I guess libreplanet has now supplanted) [18:47] asked for volunteer LUGs, a few volunteered, the only one listed was Surrey because they said Matt Could modify the wiki home page of their lug [18:47] GLUGs! oh my [18:47] I remember smoeone I know wrote a blog about the gnu/linux arugment. someone in ubuntu. it was an asesome post [18:47] he pasted the entire GNU manifesto onto their front page [18:47] which made it a bit messy [18:47] so it was moved to a sub-page, matt then de-listed them from the free software groups list [18:47] and ubsubscribed from lugmaster [18:49] lol [18:49] amusingly I once told matt that my wireless didnt work in gnewsense, he offered to post an ethernet cable to me :) [18:49] haha [18:49] popey: Matt Lee is amusing like that [18:49] popey: Bought me lunch once [18:50] >> I have no issue with people who 'bang on' about free software, [18:50] popey: That doesn't seem likely. [18:51] see, I can't have an opinion of my own [18:53] yay - we have hitler mentioned, all bets are off [18:53] sheesh [18:53] popey: No your language doesn't seem to reflect your statement. [18:54] But most of what you stated in your email I agreed with [18:54] Apart from classification of me in the camp with the FSF [18:54] I have enough bloody battles with those guys [18:54] I have no problem with people banging on about free software, honestly, I helped organise a free culture event only last month! [18:54] To not be put into the black camp with them [18:55] popey: yes, I can vouch for that. I remmber you were complaining about ubnutu not having some cute mascot like suse linux ;) [18:55] hah, yeah [18:55] although we now have the lynx! [18:55] jono: I think you posted a link to the severed fifth ustream and not JB@Home [18:55] I thought we had the human being [18:55] not sure I want to buy one of them [18:55] * pleia2 mentioned the suse lizard in her lynx stuffed toy blog post ;) [18:55] :) [18:55] it's on my desk [18:55] * pleia2 pets [18:56] doctormo: what I do have issues with is the _method_ by which free software advocates do their job [18:56] dannys post to -devel-discuss sums it up nicely [18:56] paultag can be bang on sometimes :D His one replies are all home runs! [18:56] popey: Yes, I have issue with the same method being used by dismissives who do exactly the same thing. [18:56] cjohnston, thanks! [18:56] fixed [18:57] :-) [18:57] I don't agree with dpic's language, he's a young lad and needs to work on that. [18:57] making demands of ubuntu which we have already fulfilled (showing a disconnect with the product) and not engaging once their demands aren't met [18:57] sure [18:57] popey: I'll be surprised if he leaves the LoCo to be honest [18:58] there's no reason for him to leave the loco, surely? [18:58] the two groups compliment eachother [18:58] Not that I know of [18:58] Accordingly [18:58] I have to restart, one second === doctormo is now known as doctormo_restart === doctormo_restart is now known as doctormo [18:59] i am amused that a free software advocate such as dpic is happy to show screenshots of himself downloading copyrighted content over bittorrent on his blog! :) [18:59] doctormo: you should understand that not everyone using ubuntu think about free software [19:00] BUT THEY SHOULD! [19:00] etc [19:00] I'm like _marx_. It works I use it. I'm happy with it, I contribute back. [19:00] right, home time methinks.. [19:01] you lot be good you cheeky scamps! [19:03] I will not! [19:03] 'be good'... the very idea! ;) [19:03] haha [19:03] * popey makes a mark on 'The List' [19:03] Good... hmm, concept not found. [19:13] ok, so community participation in patch review is way too awesome! Down to 1687 from 1952 when I announced the launch of operation cleansweep [19:13] very nice! [19:14] congratulations nigelb, that's awesom [19:14] It'll improve trust in submitting patches too [19:15] doctormo: I'm in shock myself as to what the heck happened [19:16] nigelb: Why? the community is powerful but unorganised, your harnessing lighting sucessfully :-D [19:16] doctormo: perhaps the overwhelming response caught me by surprise [19:35] JFo: im skipping meeting. 12 am and im *really* sleepy [19:35] sounds good [19:36] I'll be sending out an e-mail about the triage summit soon [19:36] so you should see it [19:36] awesome! thanks :) [19:52] doctormo: would you be willing to write about getting involved in ubuntu by being an application author for the ubuntu.com/community page? [19:54] popey: man dude, robbie's interview is great [19:54] ditto kees and ricks [19:54] popey: you should blog these! [19:55] cjohnston: Not sure what you need to know from me [19:55] jcastro: yeah, i really enjoyed interviewing rick spencer, he just talked and talked [19:56] doctormo: if you take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityContributePages#Developers Jono wrote that about developers.. if you scroll to the bottom of the page, we need one for application authors.. kinda like the opportunistic developer thing.. [19:56] and kees, especially as he was reluctant to do the interview and didnt think he'd be any good, but turned out to be full of awesome! [19:58] jcastro: when you do blog, please mention numbers from http://tinyurl.com/2u7kf3b - review queue [19:59] nigelb: yeah [19:59] I was just waiting a bit since bobbo just posted and I didn't want to bump him down yet [19:59] nigelb: go to bed confident I will get to it! :) [19:59] off to bed now :) [20:00] Yay! I think the Dutch elections were responsible for the Twitter Fail Whale today. At least the national broadcaster is suggesting that. [20:10] jono: awesome @home earlier, had some great questions - should fork @home with @home in the cloud to discuss cloud computing :) [20:14] thanks jturek :) [20:17] jono on Cloud 9? :) [20:19] oh dear http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/06/new-ubuntu-font-how-to-download-it-but.html [20:22] popey: That looks really bad. [20:22] Exactly the thing the font designer warned for, but worse. [20:23] popey: the cat was out of the bag , when people started posting screenshots with the fonts ;) [20:24] that makes it okay then [20:24] But do you really want a screenscraped font out in the wild? That sounds horrible! [20:24] popey: i meant the OMG folks :) [20:29] jcastro: ping [20:29] cjohnston: pong [20:30] hey... What I had wanted to talk to you about was the HoF [20:30] which... is.. sick... hehe [20:48] qense: if that is just someone taking random glyphs and putting them in a ttf then all the metrics are going to be wrong [20:49] stuff like the new Ubuntu logo has been manually kerned for large sizes, the spacing will be a complete mess. [20:50] cjohnston: yep, gimme like 10 minutes or so to finish what I am working on [20:50] yup [20:53] could someone who is wise please explain why folks rename subjects in threads? boggles me no end [20:56] czajkowski: if you find the answer, please tell me [20:57] grr tis doing my noggin in [21:00] czajkowski: skype? [21:00] I mean cjohnston [21:00] *sniff* [21:00] no love me for jcastro [21:01] maybe later! [21:01] sure [21:01] ffemtcj [21:01] poor czajkowski [21:02] * czajkowski goes in search of white chocci [21:03] There is some in brussels... I remember.. we saw it [21:03] ;-) [21:03] is ffmemtcj your username? [21:03] yes [21:03] well.. [21:03] ffemtcj is [21:03] oh, I thought you were just mashing your keyboard! [21:03] thats my old irc nic [21:03] heh [21:05] jcastro: see mine is czajkowski much easier :p no chocci for you [21:06] you do not appear to be signed in! [21:06] i am [21:06] we arent friends tho [21:06] I just tried to friend you [21:06] yer very special [21:06] czajkowski: you just gotta type all the letters of the alphabet and hope to get them in the right order for you. ;-) [21:07] cjohnston: you are gonna get a wallop for that young lad [21:07] lol [21:08] i know [21:08] cjohnston: can you try to add me? jcastro1975 [21:08] but I still havent figured out how to spell it.. thanks to cz [21:08] I do the same thing [21:09] cjohnston: czajkowski really isn't that hard to spell [21:09] god forbid there is ever another cz in this channel :-P [21:09] the hardest bit to remember is the "czaj" and the rest is pretty much how it sounds [21:09] there are two cj's in alot of channels [21:10] there is a czam somewhere [21:11] there it is jcastro ! [21:11] ah wait! [21:11] it's making me update [21:11] lol [21:13] czajkowski: we were going to invite you to our call so you wouldn't feel left out [21:13] but I guess it's all about chocolate now! [21:14] chrisjohnston [21:21] ooo... czajkowski... I could use your help on something... ;-) [21:21] thats never good.. [21:21] sup [21:21] jcastro: she just got on! [21:21] about 5 seconds after we hung up :-( [21:22] cooking [21:22] cjohnston: sup? [21:22] czajkowski: wanna write something for getting involved in the ubuntu community, more specifically advocating ubuntu? [21:22] ;-) [21:22] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityContributePages <----- [21:23] cjohnston: I can do as long as you dont need it between now and 2pm tomorrow [21:23] nah.. maybe by the end of next week? [21:23] ah thats grand [21:23] trying to swat up for a job interview [21:24] cool [21:24] catch ye in a wee bit [21:24] need food [21:24] enjoy! [21:25] jcastro: still around? [21:26] sort of [21:26] newz found the files needed to fix it.. would daniel be the right person to assign the bug to? [21:26] but I got to get these droids to the south ridge by the end of the day, or there'll be hell to pay [21:26] cjohnston: yeah! Reply to the mail I just sent with the links [21:26] you can send me a droid [21:26] okie [21:35] man [21:35] popey: [21:35] ya [21:35] I sent one of a my friends a link to the interviews [21:36] here's what he says: [21:36] "the guy is all British and shit, sweet" [21:36] :) [21:49] heh [21:58] gosh [23:09] akgraner: and everyone else too! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/100UsersProject