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thorwilthis does wonders for text on the web: http://code.google.com/p/hyphenator/09:14
nisshhheh, booted up debian stable in a vm, thought "debian is gonna be rcok solid, yea!", got a kernel panic first try11:27
nisshhrock*11:27
ubuntujenkinsshrini: ping15:22
shriniubuntujenkins: pong15:30
shrini:-)15:30
ubuntujenkinsshrini: i AM GOING TO TRY AND SORT OUT YOUR index for the manual. Can you provide me with a list of all the letters in the tamil aplhabet and the order they shoudl apear in .(sorry for the caps)15:32
shrinisure15:32
ubuntujenkinsThanks, If i understand correctly there are a lot of letters. http://www.thetamillanguage.com/cvchart.html15:33
shriniubuntujenkins: right15:33
ubuntujenkinsI don't know if I will get the index working first time. I have to learn how to write the rules that make it.15:34
shrinihttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_script15:34
shriniTamil compound table15:35
shriniis the collection of all letters in tamil15:35
ubuntujenkinsdo you have capital equivilents of letters? What order should the index be in? In english we have abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz15:35
ubuntujenkinsI make it 216 letters in total15:37
shriniright15:38
shriniTamil compound table15:40
shriniin that table15:40
shriniஅ ஆ இ ஈ உ ஊ எ ஏ ஐ ஒ ஓ ஔ15:41
shriniis the first order15:41
shrinithen15:41
shriniக கா கி கீ கு கூ கெ கே கை கொ கோ கௌ15:41
shrini2nd row, 3rd row, 4 th row... go like this15:41
shriniskip the first column15:41
shriniConsonants ↓15:41
shriniConsonants ↓ - skip this column15:42
ubuntujenkinsok makes sense so far15:42
shriniubuntujenkins: :-)15:42
ubuntujenkinsdo the consonants ever start a word?15:42
shriniyes15:44
shriniubuntujenkins: wait. what do you mean? example?15:45
ubuntujenkinsdoes க் this ever start a word (fisrt letter in the constant column)15:46
ubuntujenkinsif it does it needs a place in the index15:46
shriniubuntujenkins: no.15:53
shriniக் wont start a word15:54
ubuntujenkinsok and I asume it is the same for every letter in the constant column15:54
shrinisame applicable to letters in first column15:54
ubuntujenkinsok thanks. What are the capital letters? like A is the capital of a15:55
shrinino15:55
shriniwe dont have like that15:55
ubuntujenkinsthats ok I will have a go at making an index.  Thanks for you help15:56
shriniubuntujenkins: thanks a lot for your kind help15:57
ubuntujenkinsno problem, lets see if i can write this code correctly :)15:59
shrini:-)16:02
ubuntujenkinsshrini: are there any special characters in english they are ! ? . - '16:07
ubuntujenkinsdoes anything like this appear at the start of tamil words?16:07
shriniubuntujenkins: no16:08
ubuntujenkinsok thanks16:08
shriniok16:10
ubuntujenkinsdo symbols such as  ! ? . - ' appear in the tamil alphabet? or other symbols that are not the letters in the chart16:11
shrinithey are special charectors16:11
shrinijust like english16:11
shrinino difference16:12
ubuntujenkinsyey that makes that bit easy16:12
ubuntujenkinsgodbyk: ping16:12
ubuntujenkinsshrini: what about numbers?16:13
shrinisame16:13
shrinino diff16:13
ubuntujenkinsthats good16:13
shrini:-)16:14
ubuntujenkinswow the uni internet is FAST http://www.speedtest.net/result/841891929.png16:50
jcisiohello17:38
jcisioin e1-lucid string 28417:38
jcisiothere is a {panes} that should be something else17:38
jcisiofor the ease of search: Opening multiple \application{Nautilus} windows can be useful for dragging files and folders between locations. The option of \emph{tabs} is also available in \application{Nautilus}, as well as the use of {panes}.17:39
ubuntujenkinsI will be back soon, I have written a script that sorts the list of alphabet into part of the rule so hopefully this index is getting there18:09
shriniwow18:10
shrinithnx18:10
ubuntujenkinsgodbyk: ping21:21
* ubuntujenkins goes to the uni library to get "The LaTeX companion"21:50
dakerhaha21:51
dakerubuntujenkins, you see "Exam 2010"21:52
dakershoudl*21:52
dakershould*21:52
* ubuntujenkins is back now to read more on xindy22:12
ubuntujenkins\join #latex22:27
ubuntujenkinsits a / then :)22:27
dutchiehi godbyk22:38
dutchieor godbyk-sagan22:38
godbyk-saganHey, dutchie22:45
godbyk-saganHow's it going?22:45
dutchienot too bad22:49
dutchiehave wasted this evening though22:49
dutchieshould definitely have revised for my exam on Friday22:49
dutchiebut I managed to get through the one I had today \o/22:53
* ubuntujenkins does not know where to save this xindy stuff I have done23:00
ubuntujenkinshence I don't know if it is correct23:01
godbyk-sagandutchie: sounds like most my evenings. :)23:01
godbyk-saganWhee!  I just got my new netbook.23:02
godbyk-saganI also got the new case for my new computer.23:02
* godbyk-sagan blew a ton of money this weekend on computer stuff.23:02
dutchiewhat netbook?23:03
godbyk-saganthis one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003D1DZBY/ref=oss_product23:03
* ubuntujenkins would like a big computer my laptop kinda dies if i try and do loads23:04
dutchiei would like a laptop whose power supply has not exploded23:04
godbyk-saganMy laptop and computer are both 4 years old and are on their last legs.23:05
godbyk-saganSo I'm building a new PC (components arriving tomorrow).23:05
godbyk-saganI also bought a netbook to take along with me to the TeX conference.23:05
godbyk-saganWe'll see what Ubuntu thinks of it.23:06
dakerguys!! what do you think http://imagebin.org/10068023:06
ubuntujenkinsthats cool, can we remove the top left logo?23:07
godbyk-saganwhat's the top-left logo, anyway?23:07
ubuntujenkinsubuntu review gadget thats what the bottom says23:08
dakerhttps://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-reviewers23:08
dakerit's for the ubuntu reviewers23:08
godbyk-saganHmm.. it always bugs me when I see typos in the chintzy booklets they send with new electronics these days.23:10
ubuntujenkinshow do i use echo to add something to the end of a line?23:14
godbyk-saganubuntujenkins: can you be more specific?23:17
ubuntujenkinsgodbyk-sagan: I have a list of tamil letters that are one line per letter i need to run them into a list like this "a" "b" "c" etc. They start like this23:18
ubuntujenkinsa23:18
ubuntujenkinsb23:18
ubuntujenkinsc23:18
godbyk-saganubuntujenkins: oh.  try "cat myfile.txt | xargs | sed 's/\s+//g'23:20
godbyk-saganmight have to fiddle with the sed bit. not sure what will get escaped and what won't23:20
godbyk-saganubuntujenkins: put a \ in front of the +.23:21
godbyk-saganthen it should work.23:21
godbyk-sagancat myfile.txt | xargs | sed 's/\s\+//g'23:21
ubuntujenkinsdoesn't add the " " around the letters . but that does change it into a line23:22
godbyk-saganoh, right. sorry.23:22
ubuntujenkinswhat differnce does the \ make? It looks like the letters are closer?23:23
ubuntujenkinsno problem23:23
ubuntujenkinsI would be stuck with out your bash skills23:23
godbyk-sagancat myfile.txt | xargs | sed -e 's/^/"/' -e 's/\s\+/" "/g' -e 's/$/"/'23:23
* dutchie blinks23:23
ubuntujenkinswow sweet thanks godbyk-sagan23:24
godbyk-saganWell, the s/foo/bar/ command will replace (Substitute) foo with bar.23:24
godbyk-sagan \s refers to 'white space' -- that is, spaces, tabs, etc.23:24
dutchiengiht folks23:25
godbyk-sagan and the + modifier (which has to be escaped in this case \+, matches one or more spaces.23:25
ubuntujenkinsnight dutchie23:25
godbyk-sagang'night, dutchie23:25
godbyk-saganin the new set of expressions, the ^ char matches the beginning of a line and the $ char matches the end of a line.23:25
ubuntujenkinsok thanks godbyk-sagan23:25
godbyk-saganso it's replacing the beginning of the line with a quote23:25
godbyk-saganreplaces the end of the line with a quote23:25
godbyk-saganand replaces the spaces with quote-space-quote.23:25
godbyk-saganthere's probably simpler ways to do it, but that was the first one that popped into my head. :)23:26
* ubuntujenkins thinks the more i look at xindy the more confused I get23:48
ubuntujenkinsnight all23:51
dakergood night ubuntujenkins23:51

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