[09:14] <thorwil> this does wonders for text on the web: http://code.google.com/p/hyphenator/
[11:27] <nisshh> heh, booted up debian stable in a vm, thought "debian is gonna be rcok solid, yea!", got a kernel panic first try
[11:27] <nisshh> rock*
[15:22] <ubuntujenkins> shrini: ping
[15:30] <shrini> ubuntujenkins: pong
[15:30] <shrini> :-)
[15:32] <ubuntujenkins> shrini: i AM GOING TO TRY AND SORT OUT YOUR index for the manual. Can you provide me with a list of all the letters in the tamil aplhabet and the order they shoudl apear in .(sorry for the caps)
[15:32] <shrini> sure
[15:33] <ubuntujenkins> Thanks, If i understand correctly there are a lot of letters. http://www.thetamillanguage.com/cvchart.html
[15:33] <shrini> ubuntujenkins: right
[15:34] <ubuntujenkins> I don't know if I will get the index working first time. I have to learn how to write the rules that make it.
[15:34] <shrini> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_script
[15:35] <shrini> Tamil compound table
[15:35] <shrini> is the collection of all letters in tamil
[15:35] <ubuntujenkins> do you have capital equivilents of letters? What order should the index be in? In english we have abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
[15:37] <ubuntujenkins> I make it 216 letters in total
[15:38] <shrini> right
[15:40] <shrini> Tamil compound table
[15:40] <shrini> in that table
[15:41] <shrini> அ ஆ இ ஈ உ ஊ எ ஏ ஐ ஒ ஓ ஔ
[15:41] <shrini> is the first order
[15:41] <shrini> then
[15:41] <shrini> க கா கி கீ கு கூ கெ கே கை கொ கோ கௌ
[15:41] <shrini> 2nd row, 3rd row, 4 th row... go like this
[15:41] <shrini> skip the first column
[15:41] <shrini> Consonants ↓
[15:42] <shrini> Consonants ↓ - skip this column
[15:42] <ubuntujenkins> ok makes sense so far
[15:42] <shrini> ubuntujenkins: :-)
[15:42] <ubuntujenkins> do the consonants ever start a word?
[15:44] <shrini> yes
[15:45] <shrini> ubuntujenkins: wait. what do you mean? example?
[15:46] <ubuntujenkins> does க் this ever start a word (fisrt letter in the constant column)
[15:46] <ubuntujenkins> if it does it needs a place in the index
[15:53] <shrini> ubuntujenkins: no.
[15:54] <shrini> க் wont start a word
[15:54] <ubuntujenkins> ok and I asume it is the same for every letter in the constant column
[15:54] <shrini> same applicable to letters in first column
[15:55] <ubuntujenkins> ok thanks. What are the capital letters? like A is the capital of a
[15:55] <shrini> no
[15:55] <shrini> we dont have like that
[15:56] <ubuntujenkins> thats ok I will have a go at making an index.  Thanks for you help
[15:57] <shrini> ubuntujenkins: thanks a lot for your kind help
[15:59] <ubuntujenkins> no problem, lets see if i can write this code correctly :)
[16:02] <shrini> :-)
[16:07] <ubuntujenkins> shrini: are there any special characters in english they are ! ? . - '
[16:07] <ubuntujenkins> does anything like this appear at the start of tamil words?
[16:08] <shrini> ubuntujenkins: no
[16:08] <ubuntujenkins> ok thanks
[16:10] <shrini> ok
[16:11] <ubuntujenkins> do symbols such as  ! ? . - ' appear in the tamil alphabet? or other symbols that are not the letters in the chart
[16:11] <shrini> they are special charectors
[16:11] <shrini> just like english
[16:12] <shrini> no difference
[16:12] <ubuntujenkins> yey that makes that bit easy
[16:12] <ubuntujenkins> godbyk: ping
[16:13] <ubuntujenkins> shrini: what about numbers?
[16:13] <shrini> same
[16:13] <shrini> no diff
[16:13] <ubuntujenkins> thats good
[16:14] <shrini> :-)
[16:50] <ubuntujenkins> wow the uni internet is FAST http://www.speedtest.net/result/841891929.png
[17:38] <jcisio> hello
[17:38] <jcisio> in e1-lucid string 284
[17:38] <jcisio> there is a {panes} that should be something else
[17:39] <jcisio> for the ease of search: Opening multiple \application{Nautilus} windows can be useful for dragging files and folders between locations. The option of \emph{tabs} is also available in \application{Nautilus}, as well as the use of {panes}.
[18:09] <ubuntujenkins> I will be back soon, I have written a script that sorts the list of alphabet into part of the rule so hopefully this index is getting there
[18:10] <shrini> wow
[18:10] <shrini> thnx
[21:21] <ubuntujenkins> godbyk: ping
[21:50]  * ubuntujenkins goes to the uni library to get "The LaTeX companion"
[21:51] <daker> haha
[21:52] <daker> ubuntujenkins, you see "Exam 2010"
[21:52] <daker> shoudl*
[21:52] <daker> should*
[22:12]  * ubuntujenkins is back now to read more on xindy
[22:27] <ubuntujenkins> \join #latex
[22:27] <ubuntujenkins> its a / then :)
[22:38] <dutchie> hi godbyk
[22:38] <dutchie> or godbyk-sagan
[22:45] <godbyk-sagan> Hey, dutchie
[22:45] <godbyk-sagan> How's it going?
[22:49] <dutchie> not too bad
[22:49] <dutchie> have wasted this evening though
[22:49] <dutchie> should definitely have revised for my exam on Friday
[22:53] <dutchie> but I managed to get through the one I had today \o/
[23:00]  * ubuntujenkins does not know where to save this xindy stuff I have done
[23:01] <ubuntujenkins> hence I don't know if it is correct
[23:01] <godbyk-sagan> dutchie: sounds like most my evenings. :)
[23:02] <godbyk-sagan> Whee!  I just got my new netbook.
[23:02] <godbyk-sagan> I also got the new case for my new computer.
[23:02]  * godbyk-sagan blew a ton of money this weekend on computer stuff.
[23:03] <dutchie> what netbook?
[23:03] <godbyk-sagan> this one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003D1DZBY/ref=oss_product
[23:04]  * ubuntujenkins would like a big computer my laptop kinda dies if i try and do loads
[23:04] <dutchie> i would like a laptop whose power supply has not exploded
[23:05] <godbyk-sagan> My laptop and computer are both 4 years old and are on their last legs.
[23:05] <godbyk-sagan> So I'm building a new PC (components arriving tomorrow).
[23:05] <godbyk-sagan> I also bought a netbook to take along with me to the TeX conference.
[23:06] <godbyk-sagan> We'll see what Ubuntu thinks of it.
[23:06] <daker> guys!! what do you think http://imagebin.org/100680
[23:07] <ubuntujenkins> thats cool, can we remove the top left logo?
[23:07] <godbyk-sagan> what's the top-left logo, anyway?
[23:08] <ubuntujenkins> ubuntu review gadget thats what the bottom says
[23:08] <daker> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-reviewers
[23:08] <daker> it's for the ubuntu reviewers
[23:10] <godbyk-sagan> Hmm.. it always bugs me when I see typos in the chintzy booklets they send with new electronics these days.
[23:14] <ubuntujenkins> how do i use echo to add something to the end of a line?
[23:17] <godbyk-sagan> ubuntujenkins: can you be more specific?
[23:18] <ubuntujenkins> godbyk-sagan: I have a list of tamil letters that are one line per letter i need to run them into a list like this "a" "b" "c" etc. They start like this
[23:18] <ubuntujenkins> a
[23:18] <ubuntujenkins> b
[23:18] <ubuntujenkins> c
[23:20] <godbyk-sagan> ubuntujenkins: oh.  try "cat myfile.txt | xargs | sed 's/\s+//g'
[23:20] <godbyk-sagan> might have to fiddle with the sed bit. not sure what will get escaped and what won't
[23:21] <godbyk-sagan> ubuntujenkins: put a \ in front of the +.
[23:21] <godbyk-sagan> then it should work.
[23:21] <godbyk-sagan> cat myfile.txt | xargs | sed 's/\s\+//g'
[23:22] <ubuntujenkins> doesn't add the " " around the letters . but that does change it into a line
[23:22] <godbyk-sagan> oh, right. sorry.
[23:23] <ubuntujenkins> what differnce does the \ make? It looks like the letters are closer?
[23:23] <ubuntujenkins> no problem
[23:23] <ubuntujenkins> I would be stuck with out your bash skills
[23:23] <godbyk-sagan> cat myfile.txt | xargs | sed -e 's/^/"/' -e 's/\s\+/" "/g' -e 's/$/"/'
[23:23]  * dutchie blinks
[23:24] <ubuntujenkins> wow sweet thanks godbyk-sagan
[23:24] <godbyk-sagan> Well, the s/foo/bar/ command will replace (Substitute) foo with bar.
[23:24] <godbyk-sagan>  \s refers to 'white space' -- that is, spaces, tabs, etc.
[23:25] <dutchie> ngiht folks
[23:25] <godbyk-sagan>  and the + modifier (which has to be escaped in this case \+, matches one or more spaces.
[23:25] <ubuntujenkins> night dutchie
[23:25] <godbyk-sagan> g'night, dutchie
[23:25] <godbyk-sagan> in the new set of expressions, the ^ char matches the beginning of a line and the $ char matches the end of a line.
[23:25] <ubuntujenkins> ok thanks godbyk-sagan
[23:25] <godbyk-sagan> so it's replacing the beginning of the line with a quote
[23:25] <godbyk-sagan> replaces the end of the line with a quote
[23:25] <godbyk-sagan> and replaces the spaces with quote-space-quote.
[23:26] <godbyk-sagan> there's probably simpler ways to do it, but that was the first one that popped into my head. :)
[23:48]  * ubuntujenkins thinks the more i look at xindy the more confused I get
[23:51] <ubuntujenkins> night all
[23:51] <daker> good night ubuntujenkins