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bobby_Is it just me, or is the latest build of FF3.7a5pre not loading?01:00
micahgbobby_: not just you, hopefully will be fixed tonight :)01:00
ddecatorbobby_: not just you01:00
ddecatormicahg: :D01:00
bobby_Okay, just checking :s01:00
ddecatori've been waiting to have my profile back..01:00
bobby_Stuck with Namoroka 3.6.6 :s01:00
ddecatorexactly :p01:00
bobby_Flash on 3.6.6 is so pitiful... Doesn't even play :(01:01
* micahg has to fix the FTBFS though otherwise no build tonight01:01
micahgbobby_: that's a bug :)01:01
ddecatorbobby_: plays for me01:01
bobby_Yeah, I figured01:01
bobby_Well, on the bright side, hopefully the Powered by Ubuntu stickers for my laptop came today, not sure yet. going to check the mail now01:01
bobby_kind of late I know :P01:02
ddecatori keep debating whether or not i want to order those..01:02
bobby_They're freeeeeeeeeeeeee!01:03
bobby_And the Windows Vista sticker is ugly01:03
bobby_Anybody else think the new iPhone 4G (white version) is ugly or is it me?01:03
bobby_All white really Apple?01:04
bobby_I'm getting the EVO and it'll pwn the iPhone 4 :)01:04
ddecatorer, no offense, but that's getting off-topic for the channel :)01:04
bobby_Okay, how about this: Firefox for android :D?01:04
ddecatorhaha, does make me wish i had an android phone01:05
ddecatorbut i like my crackberry01:05
bobby_Well, at least I wish there was FF for android01:05
ddecatorit's in alpha01:05
bobby_Really? I was just taking a shot in the dark there, I didn't know it was acutally in dev!01:05
ddecatoryup :)01:06
bobby_Fennec! SICK!01:06
bobby_Now I really can't wait to get my EVO!!!!01:06
micahgwe have fennec in Lucid :)01:06
ddecatornot sure how stable fennec is on android, but it's getting better from what i've heard01:07
bobby_Pre-Alphas, or anything with "Alpha" in it, is usually un-stable01:08
bobby_Why I'm not trying Maverick until Alpha 2 or 301:08
ddecatorheh, FF 3.7 is testament to that :p01:09
micahgddecator: you're trying the dailies, I think the alpha releases are fairly stable01:10
bobby_Well, until that loading bug is fixed01:10
bobby_But, otherwise, it has actually been surprisingly stable01:10
micahgwe'll be having pre-release milestone PPAs at some point01:10
bobby_Yeah, I know :)01:11
ddecatormicahg: true :p01:15
ddecatorhuh, a patch isn't working with xr1.9.306:35
ddecatori'm tempted to pull it and try to figure it out, but i've never worked with xr and i'm kind of tired so i don't think that'd work too well..06:37
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BUGabundo_remoteyes mummy,I won't dance in the rain!09:01
BUGabundo_remotecwillu: I've read many, but none like this one http://qdb.us/30227209:59
fta2jdstrand, http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/chromium/5.0.375.70~r48679-0ubuntu0.10.04.1/10:41
mdeslaurfta: is the seccomp sandbox working in chromium? is that the one we use? is it ready?13:22
fta2mdeslaur, not yet, we just have the suid-sandbox13:23
mdeslaurfta2: is there an eta on when it will be production-ready?13:24
fta2mdeslaur, not sure. see https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/577919/comments/413:26
ubot4Launchpad bug 577919 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "chromium-browser can't open when the guest account is activated (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,New]13:26
fta2and http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=3613313:28
fta2mdeslaur, ^^13:29
mdeslaurfta2: oh, thanks for that tracker bug13:30
mdeslaurfta2: yeah, looks like it needs more work13:30
fta2mdeslaur, btw, the security update for lucid is ready: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/chromium/5.0.375.70~r48679-0ubuntu0.10.04.1/13:30
mdeslaurfta2: oh, good...I'll build it now13:32
* gnomefreak not too bright 13:41
gnomefreaki spend ~1 hour trying to figure out why i dont have sound. my speakers were off13:42
gnomefreakmicahg: did you hear that ff3.7 was broken?13:46
micahggnomefreak: yeah13:46
gnomefreakmicahg: ok13:47
micahggnomefreak: needs patch rebasing on xul193 and ff37, will try to get to today13:47
fta2*sigh*, we're getting gyp from debian13:48
gnomefreakmicahg: cool. i dont use it as often as i should,13:48
micahgfta2: is there a problem with that?13:48
fta2micahg, could be. if they're ahead, it could lead to unbuildable chromium13:49
micahgfta2: k, well, it would only come in the devel release, so we could always downgrade if need be if that's the only issue13:50
* micahg wonders about other rdepends13:50
fta2micahg, i'm now aligning gyp on chromium, because quite often, newer gyps broke ch13:51
micahgfta2: well, if it's manual, would you keep it up to date?  (maybe they'll blacklist the autosync)13:52
fta2micahg, i thought it was blacklisted, the codecs too. apparently not13:53
* micahg goes to check 13:54
fta2>>> pkg=a.getPublishedSources(source_name='gyp', exact_match=True, status='Published')13:54
fta2>>> pkg[0].source_package_version13:54
fta2u'0.1~svn824-1'13:54
fta2>>> pkg[1].source_package_version13:54
fta2u'0.1~svn805-0ubuntu1'13:54
micahgthat I saw, the question is why :)13:54
fta2>>> pkg=a.getPublishedSources(source_name='chromium-codecs-ffmpeg', exact_match=True, status='Published')13:55
fta2>>> pkg[0].source_package_version13:55
fta2u'0.5+svn20100406r43776+43984+43918-0ubuntu1'13:55
fta2>>> pkg[1].source_package_version13:55
fta2u'0.5+svn20100406r43776+43984+43918-0ubuntu1'13:55
micahgfta2: seems like someone thought it was a good idea :)13:55
fta2that one looks fine13:55
micahgfta2: we have an eager dev-in-training actively trying to sync everything :)13:56
fta2micahg, could be, but i have no idea if the debian guys are aware of the risks13:56
micahgfta2: most likely not13:56
fta2i have 0.1~svn826 for the dailies. but stable requests 81013:57
micahgfta2: if you want it blacklisted, you should file a bug and subscribe archive-admin and explain way, also might want to subscribe ari-tczew since he did the sync13:57
micahgfta2: blacklist list: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/sync-blacklist.txt13:58
micahgfta2: I would also suggest that you subscribe to the package so that you see if sync requests are made14:03
fta2micahg, i should change the Maintainer field, i initially used MOTU, but it's a bad idea14:07
micahgfta2: well, maintainer should probably be ubuntu-devel-discuss unless you have an exception for it14:08
micahgfta2: unless you want to maintain in debian14:08
fta2should be like chromium14:08
fta2well, i'm getting tired of this14:08
micahgfta2: oh14:09
micahgfta2: didn't know you had it like that14:09
micahgfta2: probably ok then14:09
micahgfta2: if you're worried about the packaging breaking chromium, I would say do that14:09
micahgfta2: otherwise, I would suggest blacklist + subscribe to pacakge to prevent unwanted syncs14:10
mdeslaurfta2: chromium uploaded to the PPA for lucid, it'll be copied to -proposed once it's built14:12
mdeslaurfta2: thanks14:13
fta2someone should delete timeout from maverick, it's uninstallable now that coreutils conflicts with it14:41
fta2another brain damaged sync from debian..14:41
fta2and bad migration path too14:41
micahgfta2: it's been deleted from debian, you should file a bug and subscribe archive admin :)14:42
micahgfta2: I think it's been renamed to tct14:43
fta2nope14:43
fta2it's in coreutils now14:43
micahgk, I got redirected in p.qa.d.o14:44
fta2i don't know where to file this bug14:44
micahgfta2: your reason is why it was removed from debian :)14:44
micahgfta2: it's built by tct14:45
micahgthat's the connection :)14:45
micahgmaybe there should be a transitional package in coreutils?14:47
fta2indeed, that's my point about broken upgrade path14:54
micahgfta2: I would suggest filing a bug against tct to remove the binary and add a task for coreutils for a transitional package14:55
fta2i dropped it from ch trunk this morning14:56
fta2i should have dropped it from all other channels too14:57
micahgddecator: if you want to try to rebase the patches for xul193, I can mentor :)15:11
jdstrandfta2: fyi, mdeslaur uploaded chromium-browser to the ubuntu-security-proposed ppa a little while ago. I'll get it into -proposed and do all the bug stuff when it builds15:17
gnomefreakisnt tb3 built on xul193?15:28
micahggnomefreak: no, xul19115:30
gnomefreakmicahg: ok thanks15:31
ftamicahg, bug 59175816:05
ubot4Launchpad bug 591758 in ubuntu "please remove 'timeout' from Maverick (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59175816:05
ftanot sure where to assign it though16:05
* micahg isn't sure whether or not to have a second bug for coreutils transitional package16:14
* micahg goes to ask16:15
ftaif so, please file it, i have to leave16:18
micahgfta: k, will do, thanks16:19
* gnomefreak needs to get up for a few minutes. can anyone confirm that FF36 is very slow. mine is extreamly slow and doesnt matter what site i go to. even LP is slow and there is no flash/java ect... flash movies or java games movies 16:26
micahggnomefreak: compared to what?16:27
micahgand which version?.16:27
gnomefreakmicahg: daily 3.6 and compared to pretty much everything (dont recall what browsers i testedon.)16:32
gnomefreakand that is only running irssi and ff16:33
gnomefreakeven sm 2.0.5 is faster by alot16:37
micahggnomefreak: weird, probably a regression then16:51
gnomefreakI dont get it. my .pastebinit.xml hasnt changed and it used to be able to post to ubuntu.pastebin. gnomefreak@Development:~$ pastebinit install-packages17:05
gnomefreakUnknown website, please post a bugreport to request this pastebin to be added (http://pastebin.ubuntu.com)oopps17:05
gnomefreakUnknown website, please post a bugreport to request this pastebin to be added17:05
micahggnomefreak: which version do you have?17:06
gnomefreakmicahg: 1.1-217:06
micahggnomefreak: no idea17:07
gnomefreakmicahg: thanks17:09
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gnomefreakit seems that the longer you keep it open (firefox seamonkey) the slower it gets until it becomes almost un-usable i might test more later or tomorrow i have to go over my books17:26
micahggnomefreak: 32 or 66 bit?17:27
BUGabundo_remotemicahg: you just made a new CPU arch :)17:29
BUGabundo_remotegood going17:29
BUGabundo_remoteI was aiming to 128bits17:30
BUGabundo_remotebut I guess 66 is nice too17:30
jdstrandchrisccoulson: fyi, I'm adding stuff to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Firefox3.6.4Upgrade/SecurityPublication as I go. it might be worth subscribing to18:50
jdstrandchrisccoulson: and hi :)18:50
chrisccoulsonjdstrand, thanks. sorry, i forgot to look at that today18:51
chrisccoulsoni'll do that after dinner now though18:51
jdstrandno worries :)18:51
ddecatormicahg: i'm willing to try, but i won't be able to until this weekend. i definitely do want to work towards being on the mozilla team though :)18:56
chrisccoulsonddecator, you're looking for work to do? ;)19:21
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asac!test19:55
* asac gone it seems19:55
ubot4hrm?19:55
ddecatorchrisccoulson: not atm, but i definitely hope to learn enough to get into the mozilla team over the summer and help out ;)19:56
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micahgddecator: just let me know when you're ready, there's plenty to do :)  hopefully by then I'll have upload rights as well :-/20:31
ddecatormicahg: hopefully sometime next week, i definitely want to get started asap :)20:32
micahgddecator: k20:34
ddecatori figure it'll give me some extra fun work to do, and i know you guys could use the help ;)20:35
micahgddecator: when I started fixing the dailies about 10 months ago, I didn't realize that I'd end up maintaining ~40 packages in the archive in addition to the dailies :)20:36
ddecatormicahg: heh, i'm not planning on taking on that much, but you never know, haha20:37
micahgddecator: the point is, there's plenty of work for whoever is willing :)20:38
ddecatormicahg: sounds good to me20:38
ftarickspencer3, nice UrlFetchPorgressBox video :)21:00
rickspencer3hi fta21:01
rickspencer3thanks21:01
rickspencer3but of course, aquarious did the work21:01
rickspencer3I just pimped it ;)21:01
ftaand very nice to watch it smoothly in 720p html5/webm fullscreen in chromium21:01
rickspencer3nice21:01
fta(got it from a youtube subscription update email)21:02
ftafunny you're using gedit, i find it unusable for development21:03
mdeslaurfta: hey, there's nothing wrong with gedit for development :P21:06
ftamdeslaur, well, i guess it just works, but after so many years of emacs..21:07
mdeslaurhehe21:08
chrisccoulsongedit ftw :)21:11
ftadoes it do name completion?21:12
chrisccoulsoni think there's a plugin for that21:12
asaci never got used to gedit either ...  but i know that a bunch of productive gnome devs use it21:13
ftai guess it's too late for me. 2 decades of vi + emacs21:13
asacfta: how comes that we are still on the beta train for -security? thought we can track stable now21:13
ftaasac, we're noty21:14
ftanot21:14
asachmm. the changelog says: "new beta release ";)21:14
ftathat's the old one21:14
asacdid i mix that up?21:14
* asac checks21:14
fta5.0.375.70 is in the pipe somewhere21:14
asachttps://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/5.0.375.38~r46659-0ubuntu0.10.04.121:15
asacthat was uploaded 48h ago21:15
asachmm ok21:15
ftayeah, old one21:15
asacseems that just took a whjile21:15
asac(now i see the changelog date)21:15
ftathe pipe is quite long obviously21:15
asacok ... ignore my stupid comments ;)21:15
ftacould someone speed up bug 591758?21:16
ubot4Launchpad bug 591758 in tct (Ubuntu) "please remove 'timeout' from Maverick (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59175821:16
ftaid like to respin ch in maverick21:16
micahgfta: it's cjwatson/kirkland's archive day according to the wiki21:17
asachttp://packages.qa.debian.org/c/chromium-browser.html21:18
asac!test21:18
asacsigh ... offline again21:18
asac!test21:18
ubot4hrm?21:18
asacman my provider sucks much ... /me will pull the router plug again if it goes down one more time21:19
chrisccoulsonhaving internet troubles asac?21:19
micahgfta: Debian seems to be giving you credit again21:20
asacchrisccoulson: yes, my standard "once a week on tue or wed we will kick you hard" provider joke21:20
chrisccoulsonheh, that's strange, i've had issues today and yesterday this week too21:21
asacbut there is light. 1st oct i will move in a new flat and will get a cable provider21:21
chrisccoulsonmy provider is normally super-reliable though21:21
asacgood bye adsl + copper21:21
chrisccoulsonyeah, i'm thinking about getting cable21:21
sebnerasac: adsl is hell! huhu btw ;D21:22
ftamicahg, yep, that's a good sign21:22
chrisccoulsoni only get 7mbps on dsl, and i could probably get quite a bit more on cable21:22
asaci get 100/10 or something if i go for cable. my provider offers the same for copper ... and that while he cannot even keep up the 16M thing i am having atm21:22
asacso i dont believe in that ;)21:22
ftahttp://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/06/webm-video-lands-in-firefox-trunk.ars21:25
micahgfta: yep :)21:27
ftadid you read http://blog.mozilla.com/tglek/category/startup/ ?21:27
micahgnot yet21:28
ftalots of cons for system libs21:28
micahgbut I did see that we should be getting PGO for FF421:28
ftamozilla 56184221:29
ubot4Mozilla bug 561842 in Build Config "fold all remaining shared libs into libxul" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56184221:29
ftamicahg, how will we do pgo?21:29
ftaiirc, you'll need to run the browser between the two passes21:30
micahgwell, they're making it work w/gcc 4.521:30
ftamaking it work locally is one thing, but in the builders, it's another story21:31
ftabut maybe i missed something21:31
micahgfta: mozilla 55996421:32
ubot4Mozilla bug 559964 in Release Engineering "Install GCC 4.5 on linux buildslaves to enable PGO on Linux" [Normal,Assigned] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55996421:32
jdstrandchrisccoulson: fyi, new builds for ff are still not done yet, so my testing will have to wait until tomorrow21:37
ftamicahg, it's just about building twice, nothing about running the instrumented binaries from the 1st pass21:38
ftawhich would imho be our major problem21:38
ftabuilders have a very restricted env21:38
micahgfta: well, once they have it working, I'll look into how we can adapt21:39
asacchrisccoulson: mozilla says they managed to get x86 pgo going with 4.421:43
asac!test21:43
ubot4hrm?21:43
asacdamn 60 second lags ... i hate those21:43
sebnerasac: how many people share your 100Mbit then ;)21:44
asacme and my torrents ;)21:44
micahgasac: gcc4.4?  I thought it was 4.521:44
* micahg is out, bbiab21:44
asacno 4.421:44
asaclet me find the mail21:45
* micahg will check back later21:45
BUGabundoguud evening dear friends and weird ones :)21:46
asacforwarded a mail to you two21:46
BUGabundoyou got 100mbs just for you (and your legat torrents)?21:47
BUGabundonice21:47
BUGabundoI got 10mbs21:47
asac!test21:49
ubot4hrm?21:50
* asac goes and tries to hunt someone down to give back ppa builders21:52
gnomefreakBUGabundo: you around?22:11
BUGabundoalways dear friend22:12
BUGabundohow much zeros on this check ?22:12
gnomefreak:)22:15
gnomefreak*sync will update files but if the image is too big will it update to the right size when ready?22:16
BUGabundognomefreak: you mena zsync?22:17
gnomefreakBUGabundo: rsync/ssync/zsync ect...22:17
gnomefreakesync not ssync22:17
BUGabundoit will get what ever is on archive22:17
BUGabundoand reuse what's on disk if matchs22:17
gnomefreakBUGabundo: ok cool right now they are too big but when they change to be right size so will mine22:18
gnomefreak4mb too big22:18
* gnomefreak not using dvd for 4mv22:18
gnomefreak4mb22:19
BUGabundognomefreak: only one way to be sure22:19
BUGabundozsync it and sha1 it22:19
gnomefreakBUGabundo: yeah i know22:19
gnomefreakalthough that does explain why we had a day of missing images22:19
BUGabundoit does?22:26
gnomefreakBUGabundo: yep22:28
gnomefreakthey werent ready due to wrong size but i guess they uploaded them anyway but both live and alt. are both ~704mb22:29
gnomefreakcan someone that uses pastebinit pastebin your .pastebinit.xml maybe it can prevent me from going through the whole file bug and wait think22:33
gnomefreakok bug filed now the fun crap starts. be back in a few i hope22:41

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