[01:00] <bobby_> Is it just me, or is the latest build of FF3.7a5pre not loading?
[01:00] <micahg> bobby_: not just you, hopefully will be fixed tonight :)
[01:00] <ddecator> bobby_: not just you
[01:00] <ddecator> micahg: :D
[01:00] <bobby_> Okay, just checking :s
[01:00] <ddecator> i've been waiting to have my profile back..
[01:00] <bobby_> Stuck with Namoroka 3.6.6 :s
[01:00] <ddecator> exactly :p
[01:01] <bobby_> Flash on 3.6.6 is so pitiful... Doesn't even play :(
[01:01]  * micahg has to fix the FTBFS though otherwise no build tonight
[01:01] <micahg> bobby_: that's a bug :)
[01:01] <ddecator> bobby_: plays for me
[01:01] <bobby_> Yeah, I figured
[01:01] <bobby_> Well, on the bright side, hopefully the Powered by Ubuntu stickers for my laptop came today, not sure yet. going to check the mail now
[01:02] <bobby_> kind of late I know :P
[01:02] <ddecator> i keep debating whether or not i want to order those..
[01:03] <bobby_> They're freeeeeeeeeeeeee!
[01:03] <bobby_> And the Windows Vista sticker is ugly
[01:03] <bobby_> Anybody else think the new iPhone 4G (white version) is ugly or is it me?
[01:04] <bobby_> All white really Apple?
[01:04] <bobby_> I'm getting the EVO and it'll pwn the iPhone 4 :)
[01:04] <ddecator> er, no offense, but that's getting off-topic for the channel :)
[01:04] <bobby_> Okay, how about this: Firefox for android :D?
[01:05] <ddecator> haha, does make me wish i had an android phone
[01:05] <ddecator> but i like my crackberry
[01:05] <bobby_> Well, at least I wish there was FF for android
[01:05] <ddecator> it's in alpha
[01:05] <bobby_> Really? I was just taking a shot in the dark there, I didn't know it was acutally in dev!
[01:06] <ddecator> yup :)
[01:06] <bobby_> Fennec! SICK!
[01:06] <bobby_> Now I really can't wait to get my EVO!!!!
[01:06] <micahg> we have fennec in Lucid :)
[01:07] <ddecator> not sure how stable fennec is on android, but it's getting better from what i've heard
[01:08] <bobby_> Pre-Alphas, or anything with "Alpha" in it, is usually un-stable
[01:08] <bobby_> Why I'm not trying Maverick until Alpha 2 or 3
[01:09] <ddecator> heh, FF 3.7 is testament to that :p
[01:10] <micahg> ddecator: you're trying the dailies, I think the alpha releases are fairly stable
[01:10] <bobby_> Well, until that loading bug is fixed
[01:10] <bobby_> But, otherwise, it has actually been surprisingly stable
[01:10] <micahg> we'll be having pre-release milestone PPAs at some point
[01:11] <bobby_> Yeah, I know :)
[01:15] <ddecator> micahg: true :p
[06:35] <ddecator> huh, a patch isn't working with xr1.9.3
[06:37] <ddecator> i'm tempted to pull it and try to figure it out, but i've never worked with xr and i'm kind of tired so i don't think that'd work too well..
[09:01] <BUGabundo_remote> yes mummy,I won't dance in the rain!
[09:59] <BUGabundo_remote> cwillu: I've read many, but none like this one http://qdb.us/302272
[10:41] <fta2> jdstrand, http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/chromium/5.0.375.70~r48679-0ubuntu0.10.04.1/
[13:22] <mdeslaur> fta: is the seccomp sandbox working in chromium? is that the one we use? is it ready?
[13:23] <fta2> mdeslaur, not yet, we just have the suid-sandbox
[13:24] <mdeslaur> fta2: is there an eta on when it will be production-ready?
[13:26] <fta2> mdeslaur, not sure. see https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/577919/comments/4
[13:26] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 577919 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "chromium-browser can't open when the guest account is activated (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,New]
[13:28] <fta2> and http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=36133
[13:29] <fta2> mdeslaur, ^^
[13:30] <mdeslaur> fta2: oh, thanks for that tracker bug
[13:30] <mdeslaur> fta2: yeah, looks like it needs more work
[13:30] <fta2> mdeslaur, btw, the security update for lucid is ready: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/chromium/5.0.375.70~r48679-0ubuntu0.10.04.1/
[13:32] <mdeslaur> fta2: oh, good...I'll build it now
[13:41]  * gnomefreak not too bright 
[13:42] <gnomefreak> i spend ~1 hour trying to figure out why i dont have sound. my speakers were off
[13:46] <gnomefreak> micahg: did you hear that ff3.7 was broken?
[13:46] <micahg> gnomefreak: yeah
[13:47] <gnomefreak> micahg: ok
[13:47] <micahg> gnomefreak: needs patch rebasing on xul193 and ff37, will try to get to today
[13:48] <fta2> *sigh*, we're getting gyp from debian
[13:48] <gnomefreak> micahg: cool. i dont use it as often as i should,
[13:48] <micahg> fta2: is there a problem with that?
[13:49] <fta2> micahg, could be. if they're ahead, it could lead to unbuildable chromium
[13:50] <micahg> fta2: k, well, it would only come in the devel release, so we could always downgrade if need be if that's the only issue
[13:50]  * micahg wonders about other rdepends
[13:51] <fta2> micahg, i'm now aligning gyp on chromium, because quite often, newer gyps broke ch
[13:52] <micahg> fta2: well, if it's manual, would you keep it up to date?  (maybe they'll blacklist the autosync)
[13:53] <fta2> micahg, i thought it was blacklisted, the codecs too. apparently not
[13:54]  * micahg goes to check 
[13:54] <fta2> >>> pkg=a.getPublishedSources(source_name='gyp', exact_match=True, status='Published')
[13:54] <fta2> >>> pkg[0].source_package_version
[13:54] <fta2> u'0.1~svn824-1'
[13:54] <fta2> >>> pkg[1].source_package_version
[13:54] <fta2> u'0.1~svn805-0ubuntu1'
[13:54] <micahg> that I saw, the question is why :)
[13:55] <fta2> >>> pkg=a.getPublishedSources(source_name='chromium-codecs-ffmpeg', exact_match=True, status='Published')
[13:55] <fta2> >>> pkg[0].source_package_version
[13:55] <fta2> u'0.5+svn20100406r43776+43984+43918-0ubuntu1'
[13:55] <fta2> >>> pkg[1].source_package_version
[13:55] <fta2> u'0.5+svn20100406r43776+43984+43918-0ubuntu1'
[13:55] <micahg> fta2: seems like someone thought it was a good idea :)
[13:55] <fta2> that one looks fine
[13:56] <micahg> fta2: we have an eager dev-in-training actively trying to sync everything :)
[13:56] <fta2> micahg, could be, but i have no idea if the debian guys are aware of the risks
[13:56] <micahg> fta2: most likely not
[13:57] <fta2> i have 0.1~svn826 for the dailies. but stable requests 810
[13:57] <micahg> fta2: if you want it blacklisted, you should file a bug and subscribe archive-admin and explain way, also might want to subscribe ari-tczew since he did the sync
[13:58] <micahg> fta2: blacklist list: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/sync-blacklist.txt
[14:03] <micahg> fta2: I would also suggest that you subscribe to the package so that you see if sync requests are made
[14:07] <fta2> micahg, i should change the Maintainer field, i initially used MOTU, but it's a bad idea
[14:08] <micahg> fta2: well, maintainer should probably be ubuntu-devel-discuss unless you have an exception for it
[14:08] <micahg> fta2: unless you want to maintain in debian
[14:08] <fta2> should be like chromium
[14:08] <fta2> well, i'm getting tired of this
[14:09] <micahg> fta2: oh
[14:09] <micahg> fta2: didn't know you had it like that
[14:09] <micahg> fta2: probably ok then
[14:09] <micahg> fta2: if you're worried about the packaging breaking chromium, I would say do that
[14:10] <micahg> fta2: otherwise, I would suggest blacklist + subscribe to pacakge to prevent unwanted syncs
[14:12] <mdeslaur> fta2: chromium uploaded to the PPA for lucid, it'll be copied to -proposed once it's built
[14:13] <mdeslaur> fta2: thanks
[14:41] <fta2> someone should delete timeout from maverick, it's uninstallable now that coreutils conflicts with it
[14:41] <fta2> another brain damaged sync from debian..
[14:41] <fta2> and bad migration path too
[14:42] <micahg> fta2: it's been deleted from debian, you should file a bug and subscribe archive admin :)
[14:43] <micahg> fta2: I think it's been renamed to tct
[14:43] <fta2> nope
[14:43] <fta2> it's in coreutils now
[14:44] <micahg> k, I got redirected in p.qa.d.o
[14:44] <fta2> i don't know where to file this bug
[14:44] <micahg> fta2: your reason is why it was removed from debian :)
[14:45] <micahg> fta2: it's built by tct
[14:45] <micahg> that's the connection :)
[14:47] <micahg> maybe there should be a transitional package in coreutils?
[14:54] <fta2> indeed, that's my point about broken upgrade path
[14:55] <micahg> fta2: I would suggest filing a bug against tct to remove the binary and add a task for coreutils for a transitional package
[14:56] <fta2> i dropped it from ch trunk this morning
[14:57] <fta2> i should have dropped it from all other channels too
[15:11] <micahg> ddecator: if you want to try to rebase the patches for xul193, I can mentor :)
[15:17] <jdstrand> fta2: fyi, mdeslaur uploaded chromium-browser to the ubuntu-security-proposed ppa a little while ago. I'll get it into -proposed and do all the bug stuff when it builds
[15:28] <gnomefreak> isnt tb3 built on xul193?
[15:30] <micahg> gnomefreak: no, xul191
[15:31] <gnomefreak> micahg: ok thanks
[16:05] <fta> micahg, bug 591758
[16:05] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 591758 in ubuntu "please remove 'timeout' from Maverick (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/591758
[16:05] <fta> not sure where to assign it though
[16:14]  * micahg isn't sure whether or not to have a second bug for coreutils transitional package
[16:15]  * micahg goes to ask
[16:18] <fta> if so, please file it, i have to leave
[16:19] <micahg> fta: k, will do, thanks
[16:26]  * gnomefreak needs to get up for a few minutes. can anyone confirm that FF36 is very slow. mine is extreamly slow and doesnt matter what site i go to. even LP is slow and there is no flash/java ect... flash movies or java games movies 
[16:27] <micahg> gnomefreak: compared to what?
[16:27] <micahg> and which version?.
[16:32] <gnomefreak> micahg: daily 3.6 and compared to pretty much everything (dont recall what browsers i testedon.)
[16:33] <gnomefreak> and that is only running irssi and ff
[16:37] <gnomefreak> even sm 2.0.5 is faster by alot
[16:51] <micahg> gnomefreak: weird, probably a regression then
[17:05] <gnomefreak> I dont get it. my .pastebinit.xml hasnt changed and it used to be able to post to ubuntu.pastebin. gnomefreak@Development:~$ pastebinit install-packages
[17:05] <gnomefreak> Unknown website, please post a bugreport to request this pastebin to be added (http://pastebin.ubuntu.com)oopps
[17:05] <gnomefreak> Unknown website, please post a bugreport to request this pastebin to be added
[17:06] <micahg> gnomefreak: which version do you have?
[17:06] <gnomefreak> micahg: 1.1-2
[17:07] <micahg> gnomefreak: no idea
[17:09] <gnomefreak> micahg: thanks
[17:26] <gnomefreak> it seems that the longer you keep it open (firefox seamonkey) the slower it gets until it becomes almost un-usable i might test more later or tomorrow i have to go over my books
[17:27] <micahg> gnomefreak: 32 or 66 bit?
[17:29] <BUGabundo_remote> micahg: you just made a new CPU arch :)
[17:29] <BUGabundo_remote> good going
[17:30] <BUGabundo_remote> I was aiming to 128bits
[17:30] <BUGabundo_remote> but I guess 66 is nice too
[18:50] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: fyi, I'm adding stuff to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Firefox3.6.4Upgrade/SecurityPublication as I go. it might be worth subscribing to
[18:50] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: and hi :)
[18:51] <chrisccoulson> jdstrand, thanks. sorry, i forgot to look at that today
[18:51] <chrisccoulson> i'll do that after dinner now though
[18:51] <jdstrand> no worries :)
[18:56] <ddecator> micahg: i'm willing to try, but i won't be able to until this weekend. i definitely do want to work towards being on the mozilla team though :)
[19:21] <chrisccoulson> ddecator, you're looking for work to do? ;)
[19:55] <asac> !test
[19:55]  * asac gone it seems
[19:55] <ubot4> hrm?
[19:56] <ddecator> chrisccoulson: not atm, but i definitely hope to learn enough to get into the mozilla team over the summer and help out ;)
[20:31] <micahg> ddecator: just let me know when you're ready, there's plenty to do :)  hopefully by then I'll have upload rights as well :-/
[20:32] <ddecator> micahg: hopefully sometime next week, i definitely want to get started asap :)
[20:34] <micahg> ddecator: k
[20:35] <ddecator> i figure it'll give me some extra fun work to do, and i know you guys could use the help ;)
[20:36] <micahg> ddecator: when I started fixing the dailies about 10 months ago, I didn't realize that I'd end up maintaining ~40 packages in the archive in addition to the dailies :)
[20:37] <ddecator> micahg: heh, i'm not planning on taking on that much, but you never know, haha
[20:38] <micahg> ddecator: the point is, there's plenty of work for whoever is willing :)
[20:38] <ddecator> micahg: sounds good to me
[21:00] <fta> rickspencer3, nice UrlFetchPorgressBox video :)
[21:01] <rickspencer3> hi fta
[21:01] <rickspencer3> thanks
[21:01] <rickspencer3> but of course, aquarious did the work
[21:01] <rickspencer3> I just pimped it ;)
[21:01] <fta> and very nice to watch it smoothly in 720p html5/webm fullscreen in chromium
[21:01] <rickspencer3> nice
[21:02] <fta> (got it from a youtube subscription update email)
[21:03] <fta> funny you're using gedit, i find it unusable for development
[21:06] <mdeslaur> fta: hey, there's nothing wrong with gedit for development :P
[21:07] <fta> mdeslaur, well, i guess it just works, but after so many years of emacs..
[21:08] <mdeslaur> hehe
[21:11] <chrisccoulson> gedit ftw :)
[21:12] <fta> does it do name completion?
[21:12] <chrisccoulson> i think there's a plugin for that
[21:13] <asac> i never got used to gedit either ...  but i know that a bunch of productive gnome devs use it
[21:13] <fta> i guess it's too late for me. 2 decades of vi + emacs
[21:13] <asac> fta: how comes that we are still on the beta train for -security? thought we can track stable now
[21:14] <fta> asac, we're noty
[21:14] <fta> not
[21:14] <asac> hmm. the changelog says: "new beta release ";)
[21:14] <fta> that's the old one
[21:14] <asac> did i mix that up?
[21:14]  * asac checks
[21:14] <fta> 5.0.375.70 is in the pipe somewhere
[21:15] <asac> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/5.0.375.38~r46659-0ubuntu0.10.04.1
[21:15] <asac> that was uploaded 48h ago
[21:15] <asac> hmm ok
[21:15] <fta> yeah, old one
[21:15] <asac> seems that just took a whjile
[21:15] <asac> (now i see the changelog date)
[21:15] <fta> the pipe is quite long obviously
[21:15] <asac> ok ... ignore my stupid comments ;)
[21:16] <fta> could someone speed up bug 591758?
[21:16] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 591758 in tct (Ubuntu) "please remove 'timeout' from Maverick (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/591758
[21:16] <fta> id like to respin ch in maverick
[21:17] <micahg> fta: it's cjwatson/kirkland's archive day according to the wiki
[21:18] <asac> http://packages.qa.debian.org/c/chromium-browser.html
[21:18] <asac> !test
[21:18] <asac> sigh ... offline again
[21:18] <asac> !test
[21:18] <ubot4> hrm?
[21:19] <asac> man my provider sucks much ... /me will pull the router plug again if it goes down one more time
[21:19] <chrisccoulson> having internet troubles asac?
[21:20] <micahg> fta: Debian seems to be giving you credit again
[21:20] <asac> chrisccoulson: yes, my standard "once a week on tue or wed we will kick you hard" provider joke
[21:21] <chrisccoulson> heh, that's strange, i've had issues today and yesterday this week too
[21:21] <asac> but there is light. 1st oct i will move in a new flat and will get a cable provider
[21:21] <chrisccoulson> my provider is normally super-reliable though
[21:21] <asac> good bye adsl + copper
[21:21] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i'm thinking about getting cable
[21:22] <sebner> asac: adsl is hell! huhu btw ;D
[21:22] <fta> micahg, yep, that's a good sign
[21:22] <chrisccoulson> i only get 7mbps on dsl, and i could probably get quite a bit more on cable
[21:22] <asac> i get 100/10 or something if i go for cable. my provider offers the same for copper ... and that while he cannot even keep up the 16M thing i am having atm
[21:22] <asac> so i dont believe in that ;)
[21:25] <fta> http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/06/webm-video-lands-in-firefox-trunk.ars
[21:27] <micahg> fta: yep :)
[21:27] <fta> did you read http://blog.mozilla.com/tglek/category/startup/ ?
[21:28] <micahg> not yet
[21:28] <fta> lots of cons for system libs
[21:28] <micahg> but I did see that we should be getting PGO for FF4
[21:29] <fta> mozilla 561842
[21:29] <ubot4> Mozilla bug 561842 in Build Config "fold all remaining shared libs into libxul" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=561842
[21:29] <fta> micahg, how will we do pgo?
[21:30] <fta> iirc, you'll need to run the browser between the two passes
[21:30] <micahg> well, they're making it work w/gcc 4.5
[21:31] <fta> making it work locally is one thing, but in the builders, it's another story
[21:31] <fta> but maybe i missed something
[21:32] <micahg> fta: mozilla 559964
[21:32] <ubot4> Mozilla bug 559964 in Release Engineering "Install GCC 4.5 on linux buildslaves to enable PGO on Linux" [Normal,Assigned] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=559964
[21:37] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: fyi, new builds for ff are still not done yet, so my testing will have to wait until tomorrow
[21:38] <fta> micahg, it's just about building twice, nothing about running the instrumented binaries from the 1st pass
[21:38] <fta> which would imho be our major problem
[21:38] <fta> builders have a very restricted env
[21:39] <micahg> fta: well, once they have it working, I'll look into how we can adapt
[21:43] <asac> chrisccoulson: mozilla says they managed to get x86 pgo going with 4.4
[21:43] <asac> !test
[21:43] <ubot4> hrm?
[21:43] <asac> damn 60 second lags ... i hate those
[21:44] <sebner> asac: how many people share your 100Mbit then ;)
[21:44] <asac> me and my torrents ;)
[21:44] <micahg> asac: gcc4.4?  I thought it was 4.5
[21:44]  * micahg is out, bbiab
[21:44] <asac> no 4.4
[21:45] <asac> let me find the mail
[21:45]  * micahg will check back later
[21:46] <BUGabundo> guud evening dear friends and weird ones :)
[21:46] <asac> forwarded a mail to you two
[21:47] <BUGabundo> you got 100mbs just for you (and your legat torrents)?
[21:47] <BUGabundo> nice
[21:47] <BUGabundo> I got 10mbs
[21:49] <asac> !test
[21:50] <ubot4> hrm?
[21:52]  * asac goes and tries to hunt someone down to give back ppa builders
[22:11] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: you around?
[22:12] <BUGabundo> always dear friend
[22:12] <BUGabundo> how much zeros on this check ?
[22:15] <gnomefreak> :)
[22:16] <gnomefreak> *sync will update files but if the image is too big will it update to the right size when ready?
[22:17] <BUGabundo> gnomefreak: you mena zsync?
[22:17] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: rsync/ssync/zsync ect...
[22:17] <gnomefreak> esync not ssync
[22:17] <BUGabundo> it will get what ever is on archive
[22:17] <BUGabundo> and reuse what's on disk if matchs
[22:18] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: ok cool right now they are too big but when they change to be right size so will mine
[22:18] <gnomefreak> 4mb too big
[22:18]  * gnomefreak not using dvd for 4mv
[22:19] <gnomefreak> 4mb
[22:19] <BUGabundo> gnomefreak: only one way to be sure
[22:19] <BUGabundo> zsync it and sha1 it
[22:19] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: yeah i know
[22:19] <gnomefreak> although that does explain why we had a day of missing images
[22:26] <BUGabundo> it does?
[22:28] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: yep
[22:29] <gnomefreak> they werent ready due to wrong size but i guess they uploaded them anyway but both live and alt. are both ~704mb
[22:33] <gnomefreak> can someone that uses pastebinit pastebin your .pastebinit.xml maybe it can prevent me from going through the whole file bug and wait think
[22:41] <gnomefreak> ok bug filed now the fun crap starts. be back in a few i hope