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| cheriot | anyone around that can help me trouble shoot something? | 04:14 |
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| facundobatista | cheriot, if I can... | 04:15 |
| cheriot | I can see the song I bought on the website, but the folders on all of my computers stay unsynched | 04:15 |
| cheriot | With the proper unsynchronized emblem in nautalis | 04:16 |
| facundobatista | cheriot, open a terminal, execute "u1sdtool --state", and tell me what it says | 04:17 |
| facundobatista | cheriot, this way we could see the stat of the ubuntu one syncdaemon | 04:17 |
| cheriot | Usage: u1sdtool [option] | 04:17 |
| cheriot | u1sdtool: error: no such option: --state | 04:17 |
| facundobatista | cheriot, sorry, --status | 04:18 |
| cheriot | ah, ok | 04:19 |
| cheriot | $ u1sdtool --status | 04:19 |
| cheriot | State: READY | 04:19 |
| cheriot | connection: Not User With Network | 04:19 |
| cheriot | description: ready to connect | 04:19 |
| cheriot | is_connected: False | 04:19 |
| cheriot | is_error: False | 04:19 |
| cheriot | is_online: False | 04:19 |
| cheriot | queues: WORKING_ON_BOTH | 04:19 |
| facundobatista | cheriot, the syncdaemon is ready to connect | 04:19 |
| facundobatista | (READY) | 04:20 |
| facundobatista | cheriot, it has network, but you still didn't tell it to connect | 04:20 |
| cheriot | is there a way I can force it to connect? | 04:20 |
| facundobatista | cheriot, that's why it says "not user" | 04:20 |
| facundobatista | cheriot, do u1sdtool -c | 04:20 |
| facundobatista | or --connect | 04:20 |
| cheriot | the status has changed to QUEUE_MANAGER | 04:21 |
| cheriot | I take it that's a good thing? | 04:22 |
| facundobatista | cheriot, there's a graphic tool to see the syncdaemon status... it's really in alpha state, but you may find it worthwhile | 04:22 |
| facundobatista | cheriot, yes, QUEUE_MANAGER manages the metadata and the content queue | 04:22 |
| facundobatista | *queues | 04:22 |
| cheriot | thanks for the help | 04:22 |
| facundobatista | cheriot, if you want to try the graphic tool, install it from the PPA | 04:23 |
| cheriot | I'll have to check it out | 04:23 |
| facundobatista | cheriot, sudo apt-add-repository ppa:chicharreros/ppa | 04:23 |
| facundobatista | cheriot, sudo apt-get update | 04:23 |
| facundobatista | cheriot, sudo apt-get install magicicada | 04:23 |
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| Coudy | hi, any news about sync on 9.10 ? | 06:19 |
| * rye is in University network with transparent proxy and it appears that syncdaemon works great. | 09:18 | |
| Coudy | rye, hi, any news about sync on 9.10 ? | 09:20 |
| Coudy | duanedesign, Hi, any news about sync on 9.10 ? | 11:13 |
| psy | hi, does the bookmark sync actually work? | 11:27 |
| psy | I've got ubuntu one hooked up to 3 machines with boolmarks enabled, and they all have the plugin installed on firefox | 11:28 |
| psy | but my bookmarks are not being updated | 11:28 |
| duanedesign | hello Coudy | 11:42 |
| duanedesign | hello psy | 11:42 |
| Coudy | duanedesign, hi, any news ? | 11:42 |
| psy | hi duanedesign | 11:43 |
| psy | can you confirm for me how bookmarks are supposed to work? | 11:43 |
| psy | because from what I can see so far, they don't work the way I would expect | 11:43 |
| duanedesign | Coudy: considering there wasnt much consensus from those who know the software best, I would be inclined to say either upgrade to Lucid or if you really like Karmic install the Beta/PPA | 11:44 |
| psy | Lucid rocks, do the upgrade ;) | 11:44 |
| duanedesign | psy: as far as I know the Bookmark and Contact Sync is being turned on gradually | 11:44 |
| psy | duanedesign: ok, so it's a new feature? | 11:44 |
| duanedesign | psy: so they are turning it on 5,000 people at a time, as i understand it. When they turned it on full blast it didnt go so well | 11:45 |
| psy | I just started using ubuntu one so I don't have a clue where things are at | 11:45 |
| duanedesign | psy: they turned it off when the Lucid upgrade so many users that it started to degrade U1 performance | 11:45 |
| Coudy | duanedesign, :-(, I'm afraid to upgrade. Every time when I upgrade, something is broken, 8.10>9.04 agp drivers, 9.04>9.10 autofs problems, but I'll do upgrade | 11:45 |
| duanedesign | Coudy: if you want to try the Beta/PPA first i have the command... | 11:46 |
| psy | Coudy: I know where you are coming from, but backup your system. | 11:46 |
| Coudy | duanedesign, bata/PPA of what ? of ubuntuone ? ,.. I'll try it | 11:46 |
| duanedesign | sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntuone/beta && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade | 11:47 |
| duanedesign | Coudy: ^^ | 11:47 |
| psy | Ubuntu need a simple system wide backup and recovery tool | 11:47 |
| duanedesign | that will put a newer client on Karmic. There is one change that throws people a little. The applet is replaced with the U1 Preferences Panel | 11:47 |
| duanedesign | Coudy: The Preferences Panel is usually accessed through the Me Menu. Since Karmic does not have that, to access Ubuntu One you go to System > Preferences > Ubuntu One | 11:48 |
| Coudy | duanedesign, Yes I know, at home I'm on Lucid, | 11:49 |
| duanedesign | Coudy: ok great | 11:50 |
| psy | I just read the note on the status page, Monday, June 7, 2010: migrating customers, blah, blah, blah... | 11:50 |
| psy | I think that was the day I joined up | 11:50 |
| Coudy | duanedesign, Lucid is LTS, so I hope, than U1 will work at least 3 years in Lucid | 11:50 |
| psy | was wondering why it was so damn slow | 11:50 |
| duanedesign | psy: yes it was sloooow. Better now though | 11:51 |
| psy | not a good impression for a first timer | 11:51 |
| psy | they should have put a notice on the site | 11:51 |
| duanedesign | psy: i heard Lucid brought 10's of thousands of new U1 users. | 11:51 |
| psy | the one you have to visit to join your computer | 11:52 |
| psy | I think ubuntu one is a brilliant idea for getting a real idea of just how many Ubuntu users there are in the world | 11:52 |
| psy | although, I guess it's only useful if you have lots of Ubuntu boxes in different locations | 11:53 |
| psy | does canonical make money out of it yet? | 11:54 |
| duanedesign | psy: i dont know. They pay for all the 2GB accounts so I imagine it might take awhile to break even and profit from it. | 11:56 |
| duanedesign | But i am no business person so i have no idea :P | 11:57 |
| psy | Well I just like the bookmark sync idea so far | 11:57 |
| psy | I don't think I need anywhere near 2GB of space | 11:58 |
| Coudy | duanedesign, ok, upgraded, but I can't change anything in ubuntuone client | 12:02 |
| duanedesign | Coudy: you mean you open Ubuntu One Preferences | 12:04 |
| Coudy | duanedesign, yes | 12:04 |
| duanedesign | Coudy: under Devices does you computer name show up, or does it say <Local Machine> | 12:04 |
| Coudy | duanedesign, nothing, only limit bandwidth and disconnect button | 12:05 |
| Coudy | duanedesign, do you want to view image ? | 12:06 |
| duanedesign | Coudy: can you take a screenshot? | 12:07 |
| Coudy | duanedesign, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7883291/Obrazovka-Predvo%C4%BEby%20Ubuntu%20One.png | 12:09 |
| duanedesign | Coudy: oh wow, ok | 12:10 |
| Coudy | duanedesign, should I restart my desktop after upgrade ? | 12:11 |
| duanedesign | Coudy: can you open Applications > Accesories > Password and Encryption | 12:11 |
| Coudy | duanedesign, and ... ? | 12:11 |
| duanedesign | Click the arrow next to password | 12:12 |
| duanedesign | look for Ubuntu One Token | 12:12 |
| Coudy | duanedesign, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7883291/UbuntuOnetoken.png | 12:13 |
| duanedesign | Coudy: and at http://one.ubuntu.com/account/machines do you see your computer | 12:16 |
| Coudy | duanedesign, I've deleted token, and registered again, but still I can't see nothing in devices, only bandwidth and disconnect | 12:16 |
| duanedesign | ok | 12:16 |
| Coudy | duanedesign, yes 2x one from yesterday, and one from today | 12:17 |
| duanedesign | thats ok i have a few :) | 12:17 |
| duanedesign | Coudy: i have never seen that. I am trying to think what would cause that. | 12:17 |
| duanedesign | Coudy: could you please look at ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon-exceptions.log | 12:18 |
| duanedesign | and see if anything is in that file | 12:18 |
| Coudy | duanedesign, thank you for your help, but maybe I must upgrade. If I will have problems after upgrade, I'll contact you | 12:18 |
| duanedesign | Coudy: can you try one thing. Run the command : gnome-keyring-daemon | 12:20 |
| Coudy | duanedesign, exsptions.log is empty | 12:20 |
| duanedesign | gnome-keyring-daemon; ubuntuone-preferences | 12:20 |
| duanedesign | and see if the device list is still empty. | 12:20 |
| Coudy | no devices, but exception in terminal: | 12:21 |
| Coudy | GNOME_KEYRING_SOCKET=/tmp/keyring-XZHW4h/socket | 12:21 |
| Coudy | SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/keyring-XZHW4h/socket.ssh | 12:21 |
| Coudy | GNOME_KEYRING_PID=8230 | 12:21 |
| Coudy | DBusException(dbus.String(u'Traceback (most recent call last):\n File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/dbus_interface.py", line 1068, in set_throttling_limits\n aq.writeLimit = upload\n File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/ubuntuone/storageprotocol/client.py", line 1451, in _set_write_limit\n raise ValueError(\'Write limit must be greater than 0.\')\nValueError: Write limit must be greater than 0.\n'),) | 12:21 |
| duanedesign | Coudy: ok. Could you open ~/.config/ubuntuone/syncdaemon.conf | 12:23 |
| duanedesign | Coudy: and under Bandwidth throttling | 12:23 |
| duanedesign | you want a read_limit = something greater than 0 | 12:24 |
| duanedesign | read and write | 12:24 |
| Coudy | read_limit = 65536 | 12:24 |
| Coudy | write_limit = 0 | 12:24 |
| Coudy | on = False | 12:24 |
| duanedesign | write_limit = 2097152 | 12:24 |
| duanedesign | try that^^ | 12:24 |
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| duanedesign | after you save it close the preferences (if still open) and run the command: u1sdtool -q | 12:25 |
| duanedesign | then open the Ubuntu One Preferences and see if any better | 12:25 |
| Coudy | but still limits are FALSE | 12:26 |
| Coudy | no change... | 12:26 |
| Coudy | ok, I'm going to upgrade | 12:26 |
| duanedesign | Coudy: even if they are off they need to be something other than 0 | 12:26 |
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| === teknico_away is now known as teknico | ||
| directhex | is anything stuck at the server end of u1ms? i just bought a track which isn't arriving on my u1 storage (i.e. it's not something i can sort at my end) | 14:33 |
| rye | directhex, hi, redirecting the question to the person in charge... | 14:40 |
| rye | directhex, could you please download and run this script in terminal and provide us with the Id value? http://people.canonical.com/~roman.yepishev/ubuntuone-scripts/ubuntuone-account-info | 14:45 |
| directhex | Id: 96745 | 14:46 |
| rye | directhex, is "If I Could Fly by Joe Satriani on Is There Love In Space?" the missing song? | 14:55 |
| directhex | aye | 14:55 |
| rye | directhex, is the song listed as Queued on the music store page in rhythmbox? | 14:57 |
| directhex | yeah, for about 45 minutes now | 14:57 |
| rye | directhex, ok, the issue is confirmed, alecu is now looking into that. alecu should a bug report be filed? | 15:08 |
| alecu | rye, it seems to be a server problem | 15:08 |
| duanedesign | rye: have you ever seen this? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7883291/Obrazovka-Predvo%C4%BEby%20Ubuntu%20One.png | 16:13 |
| rye | duanedesign, well, in karmic that was the limit setting... what exactly? | 16:15 |
| duanedesign | rye: ahhh, ok :P I am getting rusty on my Karmic knowledge | 16:16 |
| duanedesign | rye: i didnt even notice. It was supposed to be the preferences window after an upgrade. Probablly needs to restart U1 | 16:17 |
| duanedesign | thank you | 16:17 |
| rye | duanedesign, or stale ppa entry | 16:20 |
| duanedesign | rye: ohh, you know what, that is definetly a possibility. He did have the PPA | 16:22 |
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| brotro | I can't get to purchased music from Ubuntu One Music Store | 17:15 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| brotro | I purchased the songs, got a receipt, and now the "my downloads" section of rhythmbox is just showing them all as queued. Cannot access them through the website either. | 17:16 |
| brotro | honk | 17:17 |
| brotro | any ideas? | 17:19 |
| alecu | brotro, we are currently experiencing some issues with the server process that fetches songs from the music provider into your u1 storage. | 17:20 |
| alecu | brotro, we are working on solving them right now. | 17:20 |
| alecu | brotro, sorry for the delay. | 17:20 |
| brotro | so, this will be fixed in the near future and they will download themselves? | 17:20 |
| alecu | brotro, right. | 17:20 |
| brotro | Thanks | 17:20 |
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| mattgriffin | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Status page has been updated. some customers are still reporting a 'queued' state for purchased music. we're investigating the cause. | 17:27 |
| frogdog | anyone know when contact and bookmark sync will work? | 17:31 |
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| Jon__ | I need help, bad. Does anyone have a couple minutes? | 18:15 |
| === beuno-lunch is now known as beuno | ||
| Jon__ | honk | 18:16 |
| alecu | Jon__, what's the problem? | 18:16 |
| Jon__ | Does UbuntuOne store the files it deletes anywhere? | 18:17 |
| Jon__ | I'm using UbuntuOne between two pcs, one at school and one at home | 18:17 |
| Jon__ | I turned on the one at school for the first time in a while, and today at home, my file is gone. | 18:18 |
| Jon__ | the file is my 112 page thesis | 18:18 |
| Jon__ | I did not delete it from the pc at school or here, that's for sure. | 18:18 |
| Jon__ | there is no .u1conflict file | 18:18 |
| Jon__ | and it's no longer on the server | 18:18 |
| Jon__ | ... | 18:24 |
| Jon__ | honk | 18:28 |
| alecu | facundobatista, jdobrien: is there a way to help ^^^ ? | 18:31 |
| Jon__ | alecu, did I scare you off? | 18:31 |
| alecu | Jon__, sorry, no :-) | 18:31 |
| Jon__ | oh, sorry. | 18:31 |
| Jon__ | I was trying to be patient, but I'm sure you understand that 15mins feels like a long time right now ; ) | 18:32 |
| alecu | Jon__, I'm sure there's a way, I'm calling the people who understand this better. | 18:32 |
| Jon__ | excellent. thank you. | 18:33 |
| jdobrien | Jon__, what is you email in Ubuntu One | 18:33 |
| Jon__ | if it makes a difference, I'd just updated the pc at school to 10.04. my home pc is still 9.10 | 18:33 |
| Jon__ | jdobrien, can I PM you? | 18:33 |
| jml | how do you edit a document with desktopcouch? | 18:34 |
| jml | I'm guessing fetch it by id w/ get_record and then call put_record | 18:34 |
| jdobrien | Jon__, yes | 18:34 |
| Jon__ | alecu, jdobrien, I've got it. thank you very much. you have no idea | 18:42 |
| jdobrien | Jon__, sorry for the trouble. | 18:46 |
| Jon__ | now? not a problem. ;) workflow time change though. Going to work in a separate directory and just copy into/out of the Ubuntu One directory at the start/end of each day I think... | 18:47 |
| alecu | directhex, did your song download? | 18:47 |
| CardinalFang | kenvandine, are we talking about the circ-dep in 2 minutes? | 18:59 |
| kenvandine | CardinalFang, hey... i hadn't seen the mail until just now | 19:00 |
| kenvandine | i can though | 19:00 |
| CardinalFang | statik appears to be away. thisfred, Chipaca? | 19:00 |
| Chipaca | hi | 19:00 |
| thisfred | ohai | 19:00 |
| dobey | circ dep? fun! | 19:01 |
| Chipaca | the problem with circular dependencies is that you get circular dependencies | 19:02 |
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| thisfred | depends | 19:03 |
| dobey | thisfred: maybe BP could use some of those right now... | 19:04 |
| kklimonda | am I insane or is desktop couch has its own log handlers for g_debug? | 19:04 |
| kklimonda | or has* | 19:04 |
| thisfred | dobey to lift themselves up by the bootstraps? | 19:04 |
| dobey | thisfred: to soak up their incontinence? | 19:05 |
| thisfred | oh that kind of depend | 19:05 |
| dobey | kklimonda: i guess you're insane? what's the problem? :) | 19:06 |
| kklimonda | dobey: well, the moment I create a DesktopCouch.Session () object my debug function is redirected to /dev/null ;) | 19:07 |
| dobey | Chipaca: You know… for kids! | 19:07 |
| jml | I feel like I need a good javascript reference, a good python-couchdb reference, a good couchdb reference and a good desktopcouch reference in order to use desktopcouch | 19:07 |
| kklimonda | dobey: hmm.. g_log_set_handler:235 has g_log_set_handler (NULL, G_LOG_LEVEL_DEBUG, debug_message, NULL); | 19:08 |
| dobey | kklimonda: not sure what that is. your code? | 19:09 |
| kklimonda | dobey: and debug_message checks for COUCHDB_ENV_DEBUG_MESSAGES variable.. | 19:09 |
| kklimonda | dobey: no, that's the part of the couchdb-glib code I've grepped fro the g_log_set_handler :) | 19:09 |
| dobey | oh | 19:09 |
| dobey | rodrigo_: ^ | 19:09 |
| rodrigo_ | kklimonda, yes, it has its own log handler, iirc | 19:10 |
| dobey | jml: please complain at aquarius then :) | 19:10 |
| rodrigo_ | kklimonda, DesktopCouch.Session ? are you using the introspection? from which language? | 19:11 |
| kklimonda | rodrigo_: well, it's Vala | 19:11 |
| rodrigo_ | kklimonda, cool | 19:12 |
| dobey | kklimonda: I blame Claudia Black then :) | 19:12 |
| rodrigo_ | kklimonda, in couchdb-session.c -> g_log_set_handler (NULL, G_LOG_LEVEL_DEBUG, debug_message, NULL); | 19:13 |
| kklimonda | rodrigo_: but it's #ifdefed so it shouldn't happen in the production code.. /me is confused | 19:14 |
| rodrigo_ | kklimonda, hmm, I thought you had compiled it with debugging on | 19:14 |
| kklimonda | or maybe DEBUG_MESSAGES are set anyway? | 19:14 |
| rodrigo_ | hmm, let me check | 19:14 |
| rodrigo_ | it's disabled by default | 19:15 |
| rodrigo_ | are you using the packages? | 19:15 |
| kklimonda | yes | 19:15 |
| rodrigo_ | maybe we enable them in the packages, let me check | 19:15 |
| rodrigo_ | no, we don't | 19:16 |
| kklimonda | ok, time for debugging then :) | 19:16 |
| kklimonda | hmm, it's being set.. | 19:21 |
| kklimonda | the log handler from couchdb-glib.. | 19:22 |
| kklimonda | rodrigo_: a lucid packages has DEBUG_MESSAGES set to 1 as far as I can see | 19:25 |
| kklimonda | (only when you can ./configure with --disable-debug-messages it's not set and debian package doesn't have it) | 19:27 |
| rodrigo_ | kklimonda, oh, right | 19:35 |
| rodrigo_ | kklimonda, we fixed that after lucid, so yeah, it's enabled by default in lucid | 19:36 |
| * kklimonda thinks it's a nice candidate for an SRU so he's going to prepare a patch later.. | 19:37 | |
| CardinalFang | statik, kenvandine, thisfred, aquarius: I remember now the reason that python-desktopcouch-record depends on desktopcouch. We didn't want to make the user specify the host they're connecting to. When they specify nothing, they connect to their own couchdb, which involves a lot of searching for what that means and maybe even making it. | 20:21 |
| CardinalFang | statik, kenvandine, thisfred, aquarius: I can try to make that a special case, sort of, and import lazily. That makes me nervous, though. | 20:22 |
| thisfred | CardinalFang: I don't have enough context to make sense of that. | 20:22 |
| CardinalFang | thisfred, db = CouchDatabase() # what happens? | 20:23 |
| CardinalFang | thisfred, db = CouchDatabase("foo") # what happens? | 20:23 |
| thisfred | ah right | 20:23 |
| CardinalFang | (The latter one.) | 20:23 |
| thisfred | I think the library code should just always get a host. In python-desktopcouch we can then create a superclass that looks up the host or something | 20:24 |
| CardinalFang | So, for all that magic that goes on, I can act like that is not the normal case, and try to import the code necessary to enmagickify it, so that the just-records-only solution works. | 20:25 |
| thisfred | eh | 20:25 |
| thisfred | I would prefer no magic in records, imported or not | 20:26 |
| CardinalFang | thisfred, What is "library" here? CouchDatabase(db_name) ? | 20:26 |
| thisfred | put the magic in the app | 20:26 |
| thisfred | the library is desktopcouch-records | 20:26 |
| thisfred | the app is desktopcouch | 20:26 |
| CardinalFang | thisfred, What is "library" here? desktopcouch.records.CouchDatabase(db_name) ? | 20:26 |
| thisfred | CardinalFang: that should get a host | 20:27 |
| thisfred | then have desktopcouch.dedidedlynotrecords.CouchDatabaseSubclass(db_name) where the lookup magic happens | 20:27 |
| thisfred | probably just desktopcouch.CouchDatabase | 20:28 |
| thisfred | that subclasses desktopcouch.records.CouchDatabase | 20:28 |
| thisfred | desktopcouch.records should ideally not have any knowledge of the desktop | 20:29 |
| thisfred | I think that could be a relatively small refactoring | 20:30 |
| CardinalFang | thisfred, I left out ".server" earlier, fwiw. desktopcouch.records.server.CouchDatabase . | 20:31 |
| thisfred | right | 20:31 |
| CardinalFang | That's what people use, that name. | 20:31 |
| thisfred | yeah so we break API | 20:31 |
| thisfred | or we keep the circular dependency | 20:31 |
| thisfred | I vote we break API | 20:32 |
| CardinalFang | Third choice is unify the packages. | 20:32 |
| thisfred | yeah, but the whole point was to not do that | 20:32 |
| CardinalFang | I thought the point of today was to break the circle. | 20:32 |
| thisfred | I mean we can, but desktopcouch.records was never meant to include anything desktop specific | 20:33 |
| thisfred | CardinalFang: probably the easiest now is indeed to unify | 20:33 |
| thisfred | and then factor out the library code | 20:34 |
| thisfred | into a new package | 20:34 |
| thisfred | python-libdesktopcouch | 20:34 |
| thisfred | or something | 20:34 |
| thisfred | since it's not just records | 20:34 |
| CardinalFang | Fourth choice is to clobber the library desktopcouch.records.server.CouchDatabase with a app desktopcouch.records.server.CouchDatabase , depending on what is imported. This makes Guido cry. | 20:34 |
| thisfred | that would solve our immediate problem now, and postpone solving the more philosophic problem | 20:35 |
| thisfred | CardinalFang: yeah, let's not do *that* | 20:35 |
| CardinalFang | :) | 20:35 |
| thisfred | CardinalFang: I would like a promise though: please everyone be *super*careful not to put anything into desktopcouch.records that will break on the server due to it needing the gnome keyring or anything else desktoppy | 20:36 |
| thisfred | until we can split out the library for real, that is a danger | 20:37 |
| thisfred | but not enough to break the API over | 20:37 |
| CardinalFang | thisfred, I promise not to move anything in to desktopcouch.records that would depend on the desktop. | 20:42 |
| thisfred | awesome, so do I, so let's wait until a last minute change from aquarius breaks it ;) | 20:43 |
| statik | so what was the conclusion here? | 20:43 |
| thisfred | statik: we stuff it all back into one package | 20:43 |
| thisfred | and then properly split out the library code soon | 20:44 |
| statik | i like that idea | 20:44 |
| thisfred | which should not be supermuch work | 20:44 |
| statik | because we aren't even using the packages on the server side | 20:44 |
| thisfred | I kanbanned it already | 20:44 |
| statik | and we can deal with API renames on the server side | 20:44 |
| thisfred | yep | 20:44 |
| CardinalFang | statik, Unify the packages for the moment. We can't split without adding some conditional imports, Make a new lower CouchDatabase class that does all the desktop run-couch, find-port magic, and add a warning to the library CouchDatabase class for when people use it and it relys on that magic. | 20:45 |
| statik | i for one welcome our new unified desktopcouch package | 20:46 |
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| kklimonda | is there any plan to suggest developers using namespaces for their couchdb dbnames? the current way seems to lead straight to hell :) | 21:14 |
| CardinalFang | kklimonda, we want some ad-hoc-ery in design, but we want every record type to be publically defined, and those SHOULD suggest a database name. Anarchy: bad. Flexibility and public definition: good. | 21:18 |
| kklimonda | CardinalFang: well, the problem is what if two projects decide to use the same name? even if they don't we already have a not so good situation when some applications add their name as a prefix, some don't.. and that's only the beginning :). Can you write something more about using record types to suggest database name? | 21:23 |
| CardinalFang | kklimonda, the same name DB doesn't matter at all. Record types in "rows" are what's important. Don't touch records that aren't in your type. | 21:26 |
| CardinalFang | Collision is not a problem. Fragmentation is. So, record types should suggest a DB name. We shouldn't have a registry of DB names, though. | 21:27 |
| kklimonda | CardinalFang: isn't it a problem that either couchdb or application has to check if the record has the right type? how expensive is this check? or maybe I just don't know how does couchdb work (well, I don't :) ) and it's not a problem at all? | 22:00 |
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| jon_snow | hi | 22:56 |
| jon_snow | i have a question: i want remove a file uploaded on ubuntu One | 22:57 |
| jon_snow | i removed it from ubuntu One web page | 22:57 |
| jon_snow | but it is still accessible from google | 22:57 |
| jon_snow | sorry for my english | 22:57 |
| mkarnicki | jon_snow: you mean google has cached your public link?? | 22:58 |
| jon_snow | mkarnicki: no, no. file is a PDF with my name/surname | 22:58 |
| jon_snow | when i search my name/sourname on google it appear the first result | 22:59 |
| jon_snow | but i've removed file from Ubuntu One | 22:59 |
| facundobatista | jon_snow, which is the url that google is showing you? | 23:03 |
| jon_snow | ubuntuone.com/p/5xV/ | 23:04 |
| jon_snow | you can open it? | 23:04 |
| jon_snow | do* | 23:04 |
| facundobatista | yes I can | 23:07 |
| jon_snow | On Ubuntu One - My Storage there is not that file | 23:07 |
| jon_snow | because i've removed it | 23:07 |
| facundobatista | jon_snow, you removed it from the web interface, right? | 23:08 |
| jon_snow | yes | 23:08 |
| mkarnicki | jon_snow: you're sure it hasn't been reuploaded from your PC again? | 23:08 |
| mkarnicki | that looks like a bug.. | 23:08 |
| jon_snow | i'm sure | 23:08 |
| jon_snow | i can give you a screenshot | 23:08 |
| mkarnicki | dang. then it's work for the devs.. | 23:09 |
| facundobatista | jon_snow, it's not needed, thanks | 23:09 |
| mkarnicki | jon_snow: no, it's fine. I gotta go learn anyway. | 23:09 |
| jon_snow | "No files in this folder" | 23:09 |
| * mkarnicki had to go away | 23:09 | |
| jon_snow | but i want to know if google will keep the file stored | 23:10 |
| kklimonda | it's up to google - you can send them an email asking to remove it | 23:10 |
| mkarnicki | jon_snow: http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=164734 | 23:12 |
| jon_snow | thanks | 23:12 |
| facundobatista | jon_snow, ubuntuone.com should not show the file any more, if I'm right | 23:14 |
| facundobatista | jon_snow, could you please file a bug for this? | 23:14 |
| jon_snow | yes, i do | 23:14 |
| * facundobatista needs to go now :| | 23:14 | |
| facundobatista | sorry, bye! | 23:14 |
| jon_snow | bye! | 23:16 |
| jon_snow | "After these changes are made and Google has crawled the site again, the content should naturally drop out of the Google index" | 23:17 |
| jon_snow | it's right? | 23:17 |
| mkarnicki | jon_snow: strange message, but it should be fine.. check again in few days | 23:22 |
| jon_snow | bye | 23:28 |
| jon_snow | thanks :) | 23:28 |
| mkarnicki | np :) | 23:28 |
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