[04:14] <cheriot> anyone around that can help me trouble shoot something?
[04:15] <facundobatista> cheriot, if I can...
[04:15] <cheriot> I can see the song I bought on the website, but the folders on all of my computers stay unsynched
[04:16] <cheriot> With the proper unsynchronized emblem in nautalis
[04:17] <facundobatista> cheriot, open a terminal, execute "u1sdtool --state", and tell me what it says
[04:17] <facundobatista> cheriot, this way we could see the stat of the ubuntu one syncdaemon
[04:17] <cheriot> Usage: u1sdtool [option]
[04:17] <cheriot> u1sdtool: error: no such option: --state
[04:18] <facundobatista> cheriot, sorry, --status
[04:19] <cheriot> ah, ok
[04:19] <cheriot> $ u1sdtool --status
[04:19] <cheriot> State: READY
[04:19] <cheriot>     connection: Not User With Network
[04:19] <cheriot>     description: ready to connect
[04:19] <cheriot>     is_connected: False
[04:19] <cheriot>     is_error: False
[04:19] <cheriot>     is_online: False
[04:19] <cheriot>     queues: WORKING_ON_BOTH
[04:19] <facundobatista> cheriot, the syncdaemon is ready to connect
[04:20] <facundobatista> (READY)
[04:20] <facundobatista> cheriot, it has network, but you still didn't tell it to connect
[04:20] <cheriot> is there a way I can force it to connect?
[04:20] <facundobatista> cheriot, that's why it says "not user"
[04:20] <facundobatista> cheriot, do u1sdtool -c
[04:20] <facundobatista> or --connect
[04:21] <cheriot> the status has changed to QUEUE_MANAGER
[04:22] <cheriot> I take it that's a good thing?
[04:22] <facundobatista> cheriot, there's a graphic tool to see the syncdaemon status... it's really in alpha state, but you may find it worthwhile
[04:22] <facundobatista> cheriot, yes, QUEUE_MANAGER manages the metadata and the content queue
[04:22] <facundobatista> *queues
[04:22] <cheriot> thanks for the help
[04:23] <facundobatista> cheriot, if you want to try the graphic tool, install it from the PPA
[04:23] <cheriot> I'll have to check it out
[04:23] <facundobatista> cheriot, sudo apt-add-repository ppa:chicharreros/ppa
[04:23] <facundobatista> cheriot, sudo apt-get update
[04:23] <facundobatista> cheriot, sudo apt-get install magicicada
[06:19] <Coudy> hi, any news about sync on 9.10 ?
[09:18]  * rye is in University network with transparent proxy and it appears that syncdaemon works great.
[09:20] <Coudy> rye,  hi, any news about sync on 9.10 ?
[11:13] <Coudy> duanedesign, Hi, any news about sync on 9.10 ?
[11:27] <psy> hi, does the bookmark sync actually work?
[11:28] <psy> I've got ubuntu one hooked up to 3 machines with boolmarks enabled, and they all have the plugin installed on firefox
[11:28] <psy> but my bookmarks are not being updated
[11:42] <duanedesign> hello Coudy
[11:42] <duanedesign> hello psy
[11:42] <Coudy> duanedesign, hi, any news ?
[11:43] <psy> hi duanedesign
[11:43] <psy> can you confirm for me how bookmarks are supposed to work?
[11:43] <psy> because from what I can see so far, they don't work the way I would expect
[11:44] <duanedesign> Coudy: considering there wasnt much consensus from those who know the software best, I would be inclined to say either upgrade to Lucid or if you really like Karmic install the Beta/PPA
[11:44] <psy> Lucid rocks, do the upgrade ;)
[11:44] <duanedesign> psy: as far as I know the Bookmark and Contact Sync is being turned on gradually
[11:44] <psy> duanedesign: ok, so it's a new feature?
[11:45] <duanedesign> psy: so they are turning it on 5,000 people at a time, as i understand it. When they turned it on full blast it didnt go so well
[11:45] <psy> I just started using ubuntu one so I don't have a clue where things are at
[11:45] <duanedesign> psy: they turned it off when the Lucid upgrade so many users that it started to degrade U1 performance
[11:45] <Coudy> duanedesign, :-(, I'm afraid to upgrade. Every time when I upgrade, something is broken, 8.10>9.04 agp drivers, 9.04>9.10 autofs problems, but I'll do upgrade
[11:46] <duanedesign> Coudy: if you want to try the Beta/PPA first i have the command...
[11:46] <psy> Coudy: I know where you are coming from, but backup your system.
[11:46] <Coudy> duanedesign, bata/PPA of what ? of ubuntuone ? ,.. I'll try it
[11:47] <duanedesign> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntuone/beta && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:47] <duanedesign> Coudy: ^^
[11:47] <psy> Ubuntu need a simple system wide backup and recovery tool
[11:47] <duanedesign> that will put a newer client on Karmic. There is one change that throws people a little. The applet is replaced with the U1 Preferences Panel
[11:48] <duanedesign> Coudy: The Preferences Panel is usually accessed through the Me Menu. Since Karmic does not have that, to access Ubuntu One you go to System > Preferences > Ubuntu One
[11:49] <Coudy> duanedesign, Yes I know, at home I'm on Lucid,
[11:50] <duanedesign> Coudy: ok great
[11:50] <psy> I just read the note on the status page, Monday, June 7, 2010: migrating customers, blah, blah, blah...
[11:50] <psy> I think that was the day I joined up
[11:50] <Coudy> duanedesign, Lucid is LTS, so I hope, than U1 will work at least 3 years in Lucid
[11:50] <psy> was wondering why it was so damn slow
[11:51] <duanedesign> psy: yes it was sloooow. Better now though
[11:51] <psy> not a good impression for a first timer
[11:51] <psy> they should have put a notice on the site
[11:51] <duanedesign> psy: i heard Lucid brought 10's of thousands of new U1 users.
[11:52] <psy> the one you have to visit to join your computer
[11:52] <psy> I think ubuntu one is a brilliant idea for getting a real idea of just how many Ubuntu users there are in the world
[11:53] <psy> although, I guess it's only useful if you have lots of Ubuntu boxes in different locations
[11:54] <psy> does canonical make money out of it yet?
[11:56] <duanedesign> psy: i dont know. They pay for all the 2GB accounts so I imagine it might take awhile to break even and profit from it.
[11:57] <duanedesign> But i am no business person so i have no idea :P
[11:57] <psy> Well I just like the bookmark sync idea so far
[11:58] <psy> I don't think I need anywhere near 2GB of space
[12:02] <Coudy> duanedesign, ok, upgraded, but I can't change anything in ubuntuone client
[12:04] <duanedesign> Coudy: you mean you open Ubuntu One Preferences
[12:04] <Coudy> duanedesign, yes
[12:04] <duanedesign> Coudy: under Devices does you computer name show up, or does it say <Local Machine>
[12:05] <Coudy> duanedesign, nothing, only limit bandwidth and disconnect button
[12:06] <Coudy> duanedesign, do you want to view image ?
[12:07] <duanedesign> Coudy: can you take a screenshot?
[12:09] <Coudy> duanedesign, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7883291/Obrazovka-Predvo%C4%BEby%20Ubuntu%20One.png
[12:10] <duanedesign> Coudy: oh wow, ok
[12:11] <Coudy> duanedesign, should I restart my desktop after upgrade ?
[12:11] <duanedesign> Coudy: can you open Applications > Accesories > Password and Encryption
[12:11] <Coudy> duanedesign, and ... ?
[12:12] <duanedesign> Click the arrow next to password
[12:12] <duanedesign> look  for Ubuntu One Token
[12:13] <Coudy> duanedesign, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7883291/UbuntuOnetoken.png
[12:16] <duanedesign> Coudy: and at http://one.ubuntu.com/account/machines  do you see your computer
[12:16] <Coudy> duanedesign, I've deleted token, and registered again, but still I can't see nothing in devices, only bandwidth and disconnect
[12:16] <duanedesign> ok
[12:17] <Coudy> duanedesign, yes 2x one from yesterday, and one from today
[12:17] <duanedesign> thats ok i have a few :)
[12:17] <duanedesign> Coudy: i have never seen that. I am trying to think what would cause that.
[12:18] <duanedesign> Coudy: could you please look at ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon-exceptions.log
[12:18] <duanedesign> and see if anything is in that file
[12:18] <Coudy> duanedesign, thank you for your help, but maybe I must upgrade. If I will have problems after upgrade, I'll contact you
[12:20] <duanedesign> Coudy: can you try one thing. Run the command : gnome-keyring-daemon
[12:20] <Coudy> duanedesign, exsptions.log is empty
[12:20] <duanedesign>  gnome-keyring-daemon; ubuntuone-preferences
[12:20] <duanedesign> and see if the device list is still empty.
[12:21] <Coudy> no devices, but exception in terminal:
[12:21] <Coudy> GNOME_KEYRING_SOCKET=/tmp/keyring-XZHW4h/socket
[12:21] <Coudy> SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/keyring-XZHW4h/socket.ssh
[12:21] <Coudy> GNOME_KEYRING_PID=8230
[12:21] <Coudy> DBusException(dbus.String(u'Traceback (most recent call last):\n  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/dbus_interface.py", line 1068, in set_throttling_limits\n    aq.writeLimit = upload\n  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/ubuntuone/storageprotocol/client.py", line 1451, in _set_write_limit\n    raise ValueError(\'Write limit must be greater than 0.\')\nValueError: Write limit must be greater than 0.\n'),)
[12:23] <duanedesign> Coudy: ok. Could you open ~/.config/ubuntuone/syncdaemon.conf
[12:23] <duanedesign> Coudy: and under Bandwidth throttling
[12:24] <duanedesign> you want a read_limit = something greater than 0
[12:24] <duanedesign> read and write
[12:24] <Coudy> read_limit = 65536
[12:24] <Coudy> write_limit = 0
[12:24] <Coudy> on = False
[12:24] <duanedesign> write_limit = 2097152
[12:24] <duanedesign> try that^^
[12:25] <duanedesign> after you save it close the preferences (if still open) and run the command: u1sdtool -q
[12:25] <duanedesign> then open the Ubuntu One Preferences and see if any better
[12:26] <Coudy> but still limits are FALSE
[12:26] <Coudy> no change...
[12:26] <Coudy> ok, I'm going to upgrade
[12:26] <duanedesign> Coudy: even if they are off they need to be something other than 0
[14:33] <directhex> is anything stuck at the server end of u1ms? i just bought a track which isn't arriving on my u1 storage (i.e. it's not something i can sort at my end)
[14:40] <rye> directhex, hi, redirecting the question to the person in charge...
[14:45] <rye> directhex, could you please download and run this script in terminal and provide us with the Id value? http://people.canonical.com/~roman.yepishev/ubuntuone-scripts/ubuntuone-account-info
[14:46] <directhex> Id: 96745
[14:55] <rye> directhex, is "If I Could Fly by Joe Satriani on Is There Love In Space?" the missing song?
[14:55] <directhex> aye
[14:57] <rye> directhex, is the song listed as Queued on the music store page in rhythmbox?
[14:57] <directhex> yeah, for about 45 minutes now
[15:08] <rye> directhex, ok, the issue is confirmed, alecu is now looking into that. alecu should a bug report be filed?
[15:08] <alecu> rye, it seems to be a server problem
[16:13] <duanedesign> rye: have you ever seen this? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7883291/Obrazovka-Predvo%C4%BEby%20Ubuntu%20One.png
[16:15] <rye> duanedesign, well, in karmic that was the limit setting... what exactly?
[16:16] <duanedesign> rye: ahhh, ok :P I am getting rusty on my Karmic knowledge
[16:17] <duanedesign> rye: i didnt even notice. It was supposed to be the preferences window after an upgrade. Probablly needs to restart U1
[16:17] <duanedesign> thank you
[16:20] <rye> duanedesign, or stale ppa entry
[16:22] <duanedesign> rye: ohh, you know what, that is definetly a possibility. He did have the PPA
[17:15] <brotro> I can't get to purchased music from Ubuntu One Music Store
[17:16] <brotro> I purchased the songs, got a receipt, and now the "my downloads" section of rhythmbox is just showing them all as queued.  Cannot access them through the website either.
[17:17] <brotro> honk
[17:19] <brotro> any ideas?
[17:20] <alecu> brotro, we are currently experiencing some issues with the server process that fetches songs from the music provider into your u1 storage.
[17:20] <alecu> brotro, we are working on solving them right now.
[17:20] <alecu> brotro, sorry for the delay.
[17:20] <brotro> so, this will be fixed in the near future and they will download themselves?
[17:20] <alecu> brotro, right.
[17:20] <brotro> Thanks
[17:27] <mattgriffin> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Status page has been updated. some customers are still reporting a 'queued' state for purchased music. we're investigating the cause.
[17:31] <frogdog> anyone know when contact and bookmark sync will work?
[18:15] <Jon__> I need help, bad. Does anyone have a couple minutes?
[18:16] <Jon__> honk
[18:16] <alecu> Jon__, what's the problem?
[18:17] <Jon__> Does UbuntuOne store the files it deletes anywhere?
[18:17] <Jon__> I'm using UbuntuOne between two pcs, one at school and one at home
[18:18] <Jon__> I turned on the one at school for the first time in a while, and today at home, my file is gone.
[18:18] <Jon__> the file is my 112 page thesis
[18:18] <Jon__> I did not delete it from the pc at school or here, that's for sure.
[18:18] <Jon__> there is no .u1conflict file
[18:18] <Jon__> and it's no longer on the server
[18:24] <Jon__> ...
[18:28] <Jon__> honk
[18:31] <alecu> facundobatista, jdobrien: is there a way to help ^^^ ?
[18:31] <Jon__> alecu, did I scare you off?
[18:31] <alecu> Jon__, sorry, no :-)
[18:31] <Jon__> oh, sorry.
[18:32] <Jon__> I was trying to be patient, but I'm sure you understand that 15mins feels like a long time right now ; )
[18:32] <alecu> Jon__, I'm sure there's a way, I'm calling the people who understand this better.
[18:33] <Jon__> excellent. thank you.
[18:33] <jdobrien> Jon__, what is you email in Ubuntu One
[18:33] <Jon__> if it makes a difference, I'd just updated the pc at school to 10.04. my home pc is still 9.10
[18:33] <Jon__> jdobrien, can I PM you?
[18:34] <jml> how do you edit a document with desktopcouch?
[18:34] <jml> I'm guessing fetch it by id w/ get_record and then call put_record
[18:34] <jdobrien> Jon__, yes
[18:42] <Jon__> alecu, jdobrien, I've got it. thank you very much. you have no idea
[18:46] <jdobrien> Jon__, sorry for the trouble.
[18:47] <Jon__> now? not a problem. ;) workflow time change though. Going to work in a separate directory and just copy into/out of the Ubuntu One directory at the start/end of each day I think...
[18:47] <alecu> directhex, did your song download?
[18:59] <CardinalFang> kenvandine, are we talking about the circ-dep in 2 minutes?
[19:00] <kenvandine> CardinalFang, hey... i hadn't seen the mail until just now
[19:00] <kenvandine> i can though
[19:00] <CardinalFang> statik appears to be away.  thisfred, Chipaca?
[19:00] <Chipaca> hi
[19:00] <thisfred> ohai
[19:01] <dobey> circ dep? fun!
[19:02] <Chipaca> the problem with circular dependencies is that you get circular dependencies
[19:03] <thisfred> depends
[19:04] <dobey> thisfred: maybe BP could use some of those right now...
[19:04] <kklimonda> am I insane or is desktop couch has its own log handlers for g_debug?
[19:04] <kklimonda> or has*
[19:04] <thisfred> dobey to lift themselves up by the bootstraps?
[19:05] <dobey> thisfred: to soak up their incontinence?
[19:05] <thisfred> oh that kind of depend
[19:06] <dobey> kklimonda: i guess you're insane? what's the problem? :)
[19:07] <kklimonda> dobey: well, the moment I create a DesktopCouch.Session () object my debug function is redirected to /dev/null ;)
[19:07] <dobey> Chipaca: You know… for kids!
[19:07] <jml> I feel like I need a good javascript reference, a good python-couchdb reference, a good couchdb reference and a good desktopcouch reference in order to use desktopcouch
[19:08] <kklimonda> dobey: hmm.. g_log_set_handler:235 has g_log_set_handler (NULL, G_LOG_LEVEL_DEBUG, debug_message, NULL);
[19:09] <dobey> kklimonda: not sure what that is. your code?
[19:09] <kklimonda> dobey: and debug_message checks for COUCHDB_ENV_DEBUG_MESSAGES variable..
[19:09] <kklimonda> dobey: no, that's the part of the couchdb-glib code I've grepped fro the g_log_set_handler :)
[19:09] <dobey> oh
[19:09] <dobey> rodrigo_: ^
[19:10] <rodrigo_> kklimonda, yes, it has its own log handler, iirc
[19:10] <dobey> jml: please complain at aquarius then :)
[19:11] <rodrigo_> kklimonda,  DesktopCouch.Session ? are you using the introspection? from which language?
[19:11] <kklimonda> rodrigo_: well, it's Vala
[19:12] <rodrigo_> kklimonda, cool
[19:12] <dobey> kklimonda: I blame Claudia Black then :)
[19:13] <rodrigo_> kklimonda, in couchdb-session.c -> g_log_set_handler (NULL, G_LOG_LEVEL_DEBUG, debug_message, NULL);
[19:14] <kklimonda> rodrigo_: but it's #ifdefed so it shouldn't happen in the production code.. /me is confused
[19:14] <rodrigo_> kklimonda, hmm, I thought you had compiled it with debugging on
[19:14] <kklimonda> or maybe DEBUG_MESSAGES are set anyway?
[19:14] <rodrigo_> hmm, let me check
[19:15] <rodrigo_> it's disabled by default
[19:15] <rodrigo_> are you using the packages?
[19:15] <kklimonda> yes
[19:15] <rodrigo_> maybe we enable them in the packages, let me check
[19:16] <rodrigo_> no, we don't
[19:16] <kklimonda> ok, time for debugging then :)
[19:21] <kklimonda> hmm, it's being set..
[19:22] <kklimonda> the log handler from couchdb-glib..
[19:25] <kklimonda> rodrigo_: a lucid packages has DEBUG_MESSAGES set to 1 as far as I can see
[19:27] <kklimonda> (only when you can ./configure with --disable-debug-messages it's not set and debian package doesn't have it)
[19:35] <rodrigo_> kklimonda, oh, right
[19:36] <rodrigo_> kklimonda, we fixed that after lucid, so yeah, it's enabled by default in lucid
[19:37]  * kklimonda thinks it's a nice candidate for an SRU so he's going to prepare a patch later..
[20:21] <CardinalFang> statik, kenvandine, thisfred, aquarius:  I remember now the reason that python-desktopcouch-record depends on desktopcouch.  We didn't want to make the user specify the host they're connecting to.  When they specify nothing, they connect to their own couchdb, which involves a lot of searching for what that means and maybe even making it.
[20:22] <CardinalFang> statik, kenvandine, thisfred, aquarius:  I can try to make that a special case, sort of, and import lazily.  That makes me nervous, though.
[20:22] <thisfred> CardinalFang: I don't have enough context to make sense of that.
[20:23] <CardinalFang> thisfred,   db = CouchDatabase()  # what happens?
[20:23] <CardinalFang> thisfred,   db = CouchDatabase("foo")  # what happens?
[20:23] <thisfred> ah right
[20:23] <CardinalFang> (The latter one.)
[20:24] <thisfred> I think the library code should just always get a host. In python-desktopcouch we can then create a superclass that looks up the host or something
[20:25] <CardinalFang> So, for all that magic that goes on, I can act like that is not the normal case, and try to import the code necessary to enmagickify it, so that the just-records-only solution works.
[20:25] <thisfred> eh
[20:26] <thisfred> I would prefer no magic in records, imported or not
[20:26] <CardinalFang> thisfred, What is "library" here?  CouchDatabase(db_name) ?
[20:26] <thisfred> put the magic in the app
[20:26] <thisfred> the library is desktopcouch-records
[20:26] <thisfred> the app is desktopcouch
[20:26] <CardinalFang> thisfred, What is "library" here?  desktopcouch.records.CouchDatabase(db_name) ?
[20:27] <thisfred> CardinalFang: that should get a host
[20:27] <thisfred> then have desktopcouch.dedidedlynotrecords.CouchDatabaseSubclass(db_name) where the lookup magic happens
[20:28] <thisfred> probably just desktopcouch.CouchDatabase
[20:28] <thisfred> that subclasses desktopcouch.records.CouchDatabase
[20:29] <thisfred> desktopcouch.records should ideally not have any knowledge of the desktop
[20:30] <thisfred> I think that could be a relatively small refactoring
[20:31] <CardinalFang> thisfred, I left out ".server" earlier, fwiw.  desktopcouch.records.server.CouchDatabase  .
[20:31] <thisfred> right
[20:31] <CardinalFang> That's what people use, that name.
[20:31] <thisfred> yeah so we break API
[20:31] <thisfred> or we keep the circular dependency
[20:32] <thisfred> I vote we break API
[20:32] <CardinalFang> Third choice is unify the packages.
[20:32] <thisfred> yeah, but the whole point was to not do that
[20:32] <CardinalFang> I thought the point of today was to break the circle.
[20:33] <thisfred> I mean we can, but desktopcouch.records was never meant to include anything desktop specific
[20:33] <thisfred> CardinalFang: probably the easiest now is indeed to unify
[20:34] <thisfred> and then factor out the library code
[20:34] <thisfred> into a new package
[20:34] <thisfred> python-libdesktopcouch
[20:34] <thisfred> or something
[20:34] <thisfred> since it's not just records
[20:34] <CardinalFang> Fourth choice is to clobber the library desktopcouch.records.server.CouchDatabase with a app desktopcouch.records.server.CouchDatabase , depending on what is imported.  This makes Guido cry.
[20:35] <thisfred> that would solve our immediate problem now, and postpone solving the more philosophic problem
[20:35] <thisfred> CardinalFang: yeah, let's not do *that*
[20:35] <CardinalFang> :)
[20:36] <thisfred> CardinalFang: I would like a promise though: please everyone be *super*careful not to put anything into desktopcouch.records that will break on the server due to it needing the gnome keyring or anything else desktoppy
[20:37] <thisfred> until we can split out the library for real, that is a danger
[20:37] <thisfred> but not enough to break the API over
[20:42] <CardinalFang> thisfred, I promise not to move anything in to desktopcouch.records that would depend on the desktop.
[20:43] <thisfred> awesome, so do I, so let's wait until a last minute change from aquarius breaks it ;)
[20:43] <statik> so what was the conclusion here?
[20:43] <thisfred> statik: we stuff it all back into one package
[20:44] <thisfred> and then properly split out the library code soon
[20:44] <statik> i like that idea
[20:44] <thisfred> which should not be supermuch work
[20:44] <statik> because we aren't even using the packages on the server side
[20:44] <thisfred> I kanbanned it already
[20:44] <statik> and we can deal with API renames on the server side
[20:44] <thisfred> yep
[20:45] <CardinalFang> statik, Unify the packages for the moment.  We can't split without adding some conditional imports,  Make a new lower CouchDatabase class that does all the desktop run-couch, find-port magic, and add a warning to the library CouchDatabase class for when people use it and it relys on that magic.
[20:46] <statik> i for one welcome our new unified desktopcouch package
[21:14] <kklimonda> is there any plan to suggest developers using namespaces for their couchdb dbnames? the current way seems to lead straight to hell :)
[21:18] <CardinalFang> kklimonda, we want some ad-hoc-ery in design, but we want every record type to be publically defined, and those SHOULD suggest a database name.  Anarchy: bad.  Flexibility and public definition: good.
[21:23] <kklimonda> CardinalFang: well, the problem is what if two projects decide to use the same name? even if they don't we already have a not so good situation when some applications add their name as a prefix, some don't.. and that's only the beginning :). Can you write something more about using record types to suggest database name?
[21:26] <CardinalFang> kklimonda, the same name DB doesn't matter at all.  Record types in "rows" are what's important.  Don't touch records that aren't in your type.
[21:27] <CardinalFang> Collision is not a problem.  Fragmentation is.  So, record types should suggest a DB name.  We shouldn't have a registry of DB names, though.
[22:00] <kklimonda> CardinalFang: isn't it a problem that either couchdb or application has to check if the record has the right type? how expensive is this check? or maybe I just don't know how does couchdb work (well, I don't :) ) and it's not a problem at all?
[22:56] <jon_snow> hi
[22:57] <jon_snow> i have a question: i want remove a file uploaded on ubuntu One
[22:57] <jon_snow> i removed it from ubuntu One web page
[22:57] <jon_snow> but it is still accessible from google
[22:57] <jon_snow> sorry for my english
[22:58] <mkarnicki> jon_snow: you mean google has cached your public link??
[22:58] <jon_snow> mkarnicki: no, no. file is a PDF with my name/surname
[22:59] <jon_snow> when i search my name/sourname on google it appear the first result
[22:59] <jon_snow> but i've removed file from Ubuntu One
[23:03] <facundobatista> jon_snow, which is the url that google is showing you?
[23:04] <jon_snow> ubuntuone.com/p/5xV/
[23:04] <jon_snow> you can open it?
[23:04] <jon_snow> do*
[23:07] <facundobatista> yes I can
[23:07] <jon_snow> On Ubuntu One - My Storage there is not that file
[23:07] <jon_snow> because i've removed it
[23:08] <facundobatista> jon_snow, you removed it from the web interface, right?
[23:08] <jon_snow> yes
[23:08] <mkarnicki> jon_snow: you're sure it hasn't been reuploaded from your PC again?
[23:08] <mkarnicki> that looks like a bug..
[23:08] <jon_snow> i'm sure
[23:08] <jon_snow> i can give you a screenshot
[23:09] <mkarnicki> dang. then it's work for the devs..
[23:09] <facundobatista> jon_snow, it's not needed, thanks
[23:09] <mkarnicki> jon_snow: no, it's fine. I gotta go learn anyway.
[23:09] <jon_snow> "No files in this folder"
[23:09]  * mkarnicki had to go away
[23:10] <jon_snow> but i want to know if google will keep the file stored
[23:10] <kklimonda> it's up to google - you can send them an email asking to remove it
[23:12] <mkarnicki> jon_snow: http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=164734
[23:12] <jon_snow> thanks
[23:14] <facundobatista> jon_snow, ubuntuone.com should not show the file any more, if I'm right
[23:14] <facundobatista> jon_snow, could you please file a bug for this?
[23:14] <jon_snow> yes, i do
[23:14]  * facundobatista needs to go now :|
[23:14] <facundobatista> sorry, bye!
[23:16] <jon_snow> bye!
[23:17] <jon_snow> "After these changes are made and Google has crawled the site again, the content should naturally drop out of the Google index"
[23:17] <jon_snow> it's right?
[23:22] <mkarnicki> jon_snow: strange message, but it should be fine.. check again in few days
[23:28] <jon_snow> bye
[23:28] <jon_snow> thanks :)
[23:28] <mkarnicki> np :)